The Tout Terrain Outback: 1 year later!
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0:00 Intro
0:54 Frame & Coating
2:48 Drivetrain
3:28 Pinion C1.12
3:52 Gates CDX 115 belt
5:15 29" vs 27.5" wheels
6:38 Schwalbe Hans Dampf
6:52 Rear wheel compatibility
7:45 Bike transport perks
8:10 Tubus Logo Classic rear rack
9:21 Brooks C17 carved
9:42 Tout Terrain Adventure Fork
12:17 Tout Terrain Ergo Sport 760 handlebar
13:23 Peak Design Out Front Bike Mount
13:56 Outro
i've been watching you for years at this point and it still blows my mind how you dont have more subscribers. the filming and editing are REALLY well done, and your presenting is honestly top tier! you have genuine talent for this kind of stuff and i hope you keep posting for as long as you enjoy it :) thanks for another video!
ALSO. how do you feel about electric bikes? mostly in regards to bike packing but to hear your thoughts in general would also be nice!
Thanks so much for taking the time to tell me that. Really nice of you, and you’re welcome!
Re electric, I’d love to share extended thoughts in a video somewhere this year. But in a nutshell; I love the technology and am convinced that electric bikes have made a dramatic contribution to getting people out of their cars. I don’t own one myself right now, but am interested in purchasing an electric ‘bakfiets’ (you can look up this Dutch word online for its definition) to do most of my commuting at home. Ever since the trip with Belén’s brother in the Dolomites, I’m looking forward to exploring the topic of electric bikepacking more!
@@tristanbogaard YES. I'd eat up a video about electric bikes from you as soon as the notification pops up. Ahaha and bakfiets are a charming thing. I'm happy to hear your outlook on the topic and am waiting eagerly on an ebikepacking video someday!
Thank you so much for your kind words and support! I really appreciate it. As for electric bikes, I think they can be a great option for bike packing, especially for those who may not have the physical endurance for long distances. However, I personally prefer traditional bikes for the physical challenge and connection to nature. But I believe electric bikes have their place and can make cycling more accessible to a wider range of people. Thank you for bringing up this topic!
Thank you so much for your kind words and continued support, it means the world to me! I'm glad you enjoy my content and appreciate the effort I put into filming and editing. As for electric bikes, I think they can be great for bike packing as they can help with long distances and challenging terrain. In general, I think they're a good option for those who may need a little extra assistance or want to cover more ground. It ultimately comes down to personal preference and how you want to experience biking. Thanks for the question!
I always enjoy your videos, very professional and well done. You are an excellent communicator and I appreciate the time and effort you put in to all your videos. Great job and now I want that bike even more.
Thank you! If you’re not making the purchase for another year, you’ll be able to see my 2 year impressions!
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You're very welcome! I'm glad you enjoyed my content. Electric bikes can really enhance the bike packing experience. Let me know if you have any more questions or topics you'd like me to cover. Thank you for your support!
Hey Tristan,
great video! Definitely will get my own TT Outback for the next season. Also - I can whole heartedly recommend the Restrap Bumper Bar which adds space between a handlebar bag and the headtube - makes my life Bikepacking with handlebar bags much easier and keeps the frame protected.
Thanks for the tip! I definitely took my chances here since I wanted to know how long it would keep up, and I’m impressed by the result. I’m sure TT can repaint it at some point if needed.
You are always very clear in your reviews. Thank you.
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I enjoyed this excellent, clear review. Your English is clearer than most US or UK presenters and your presentation is faultless. About the minor problems with wear; I would stick some duct tape on the front tube to protect the paint and a piece of old inner tube on the handlebar grip ends. These would have the added bonus of making the bike look slightly less than perfect and thus less nick-able. ;-) Now, should I book my flight to Freiburg...
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Great video! Thanks.
You’re welcome! Looking forward to updating it soon with a 2024 edition.
Bike transport in Buses: Is there something like a fork cover to prevent scratches? Wheels have wheel covers to tuck away.
You are spot on about transportation ease with belts compared to chains. Imagine how much water you use to keep washing grease off your hands with chains?!
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Using a scratch prevention tape proactively is a good idea, at contact points
You're very welcome! I'm always happy to hear that my content is enjoyed and appreciated. Electric bikes can definitely be a game-changer for bike packing, providing that extra boost when needed. It's all about finding what works best for you and your biking adventures. Feel free to reach out with any more questions or topics you'd like me to cover. Thank you again for your support!
Hello Tristan and B!
Like for others here in the comments, you are a real inspiration for me and my wife 💕
Since you’ve been riding different bikes for so many kilometres, what is your preference: dropbars or straight bars for bikepacking?
Do you or Belen feel that straight bars put more effort on your backs since your hands are further away from your shoulders?
Tks!
For long distances, I'm all in for straight bars. The position is just way more comfortable if you have to spend hours pedaling (especially in bumpy conditions). I only use drop bars nowadays on 1 day fast-rolling trips. =)
Just bought mine today! :) Going to test ride it tomorrow. Still have to get used to that big tires, but I am very excited for my first ride 😊
What is the minimum tire size on that 27,5? Do you know that?
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Fork is very beef. Taper would look more proportional aesthetic. I don't know how convenient it would be to find 1.5 bearings in the middle of nowhere.
Great review on the bike, thanks for the good work
Can you advise what sprocket sizes you are using and if you changed them when you went from 29” to 27.5” wheels?
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great video, thanks! I'm waiting to collect my own tout terrain bike! just one question. what are your long term impression about the pinion gearbox? relaiability and drag? thanks!
I’ve come enjoy the gearbox a lot in the long term. Just one oil change so far (1st year) and the rest has been flawless. There’s no way I’m going back to a derailleur!
Hi thank you for your in depth review. Can you please advice what bottle cage bracket you are using for your Trangia fuel bottle?
You’re welcome! The bottle cage bracket is from Specialized, but I think they discontinued it. Have a look online to see if you can find it!
Loved the honest and in-depth review. How satisfied are you with the gear steps for off-road touring? I'm worried with a whopping spread of 600% that the 17,5% gear steps of the C1.12 make it uncomfortable to find the right cadence. My Shimano Nexus 8 gear box also has average gear steps of 17% and I was more than often struggling with the cadence (granted the Nexus doesn't have a steady 17% but is all over the place with its steps)
Pinion feels super stable in the steps difference. I’ve just done 5 days of hardcore Silk Road Mountain Race off-road riding and the steps have been great on most climbs!
Hi Tristan, Nice video thank you. What about the brakes? Are they the Magura MT4? The 4 pistons version? Maintanance needed, performance? Cheers
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Hey. Thanks for the video. Any information you can give on sizing one of these would be appreciated. Can’t test ride one sadly for fit
Thanks! I’m 1.89m tall and the XL version works for me. If you’re a couple of cm below that number you should get the L size Outback.
@@tristanbogaard amazing thank you. I’m 178 so I think a medium is for me but the size guide button on their site isn’t working at the moment. Thanks man!
Hi! Do you think you can load bigger ortlieb bags at the rear or these size are the biggest you can have (to not touch the bags with your foot) ? Thanks 😊
I think the big ones would work just fine! I’m keen to try this myself now 😅
@tristianbogaard I saw you in a video by Felix on a red gravel bike. Can you tell more about the bike? Thanks!
That’s the Tout Terrain Scrambler! I use it as my event and around the house gravel bike. As you might imagine, I use it less than my Outback, so it’ll take a while before I can do a proper review. But it’s been a fantastic bike so far, not in small part thanks to the choice of transmission they made at TT. The pinion gearbox and belt, fully steel frame (including fork), wide dropper handlebar and thinner tire choice causes a much stiffer ride, but also faster and more nimble than on the Outback. Happy to hear your interest!
Would you know what is the lead time from order for the outback?
6 months
Are you happy going with flat bars? Would you consider using drop bars for aero benefits and changing hand positions? It looks like you get into fairly rough terrain. What are the number for head angle, stack height and chainstay lengths. Just curious about geo. Great presentation and congratulations on all the ground you have covered!
I’m very happy with the flat bars! Definitely not swapping for drop bars as I’m plenty comfortable with these. You can find the geometry details on the TT website, Outback webpage. Thanks!
Does the front sprocket tend to work loose? Do the screws have Loctite on them?
I carry a special tool from Pinion, to tighten it in case it does. But ever since I tightened it last time, it has not come loose again.
Would the 29' Tubus rack be stupidly oversize for a 27.5 TT Outback? (I've got a 700C Giant as well that I might use it on)
Not at all! I’ve used my years old Logo Classic on the 27.5” setup and all looked fine (considering I also specked 2.8” tires). In fact, I think it’s the perfect rack for this type of bike since it’s strong enough to carry any load while maintaining stability.
I am seriously considering hitting the order button on one of these. Think it’s the perfect fit for me.
Question though. Trying to figure out my frame size. How tall are you? You ride a XL. I am 187cm. Stand over height for me is 860mm.
Best wishes and great video. Alex
You won’t regret ordering one. I’m 189cm tall and the XL fits me perfectly!
@@tristanbogaard Tout-Terrain told me L in a reply to an e-mail. Still confused on what size to get still 😅. Thing is I have several bikes. Some are L and some are XL depending on brand of bike. Thank you. I definitely am going for an Outback.
Come to think of it. All my latest three mtb’s have been XL. I have to take some measurements and compare with the ones on their website.
Excuse this dumb question, I know I need to try a bike for size before I buy it, but I'm in Andalucía and the nearest Tout Terrain dealer is in Barcelona, and you look like a tall guy. I'm 1.83m tall with an inside leg measurement of 84cm: would the XL or the L fit me best?
I’m 1.89m and fit quite well on the XL model, but I think an L would work for your length!
Hi Tristan, I am very interested in this bike. How does it behave on asphalt roads? The confort is good? I'm searching a multi-purpose bike with Pinion C1.12 gearbox and belt. With Outback I will go with 29 2" or 2.25" semi-slick tires for road journey and with big 27.5 2.6" for off-road focused journey. I'm undecided between this model and the Gravel model: Tout Terrain Scrambler Explore GT2. Thanks in advance.
You’re going to be very happy with the Outback in the approach you’re taking on wheel and tire size. The Outback is such a versatile bike and having both wheelsizes enlarges that. While I also ride the Scramber on gravel (events) it does feel less capable on off-road surfaces as it’s much more rigid (and zippy!). So for a fully capable adventure machine, I’d say the Outback is your ultimate choice!
@@tristanbogaard Thank you for the answer Tristan, the Outback seems the perfect bike for me ;)
I thought the Outback could accommodate 27.5 x 3.0?
You’re right, it can! But these particular Schwalbe tires don’t come in that size.
Anyone who has done some biking, would know the drudgery of cleaning chain drive train on dirt roads!! You were carrying a lot of lubricant and degreaser perhaps with chains on your Diverge? Belts should be the default for all bikes unless one is racing!!
Belts are not as susceptible to damage due to low height clearance of dereilleurs. Feels clean and minimalistic.
Wish there were thumb shifters instead of twist shifters. Are there?
Wonder why you dont use mud guards!
I think that bike is powder coated not painted.
Exactly! English isn’t my mother tongue, so the correct words sometimes get lost on me…