Eastern Europeans Are Going Extinct
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 มิ.ย. 2024
- In this video, I analyse the accelerating depopulation of Eastern Europe in the past couple of years.
- timestamps -
00:00 - Introduction
01:55 - Regional Specifics
07:18 - The Importance of Stability
11:07 - The Gen Z Factor
16:21 - The Contemporary Situation
26:23 - The Future of Eastern Europe
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I am Polish and have noticed a quick increase in the number of foreigners who are more and more noticable with each year. Mainly subsaharans and Indians. They obviously don't know a single Polish word and have no ties to my country. We will share the same fate as France.
Well, sunshine . You can start making babies or else !
But hey pay your taxes tho ? You need them . They pay more taxes than you cause they are most probably higher earners than you
Bro same thing in Germany
maybe Putin will scare them away
It's the pension system, in Europe the taxes are ridiculous, so people can't afford children, but the goverment needs more people to be able to pay the pensionns of people who retire, so they import more immigrants.
KaiserBauch has officially entered his, “the Slavic world has fallen, hundreds of millions must die” phase
Fell in 1917 tbh
Never even began
Hmm 🤔 if Poles and other Eastern Europeans will move in sufficient numbers they might be able to salvage their civilisation somewhere else. For example Poles are 15-30 millions in America, so soon the number will be bigger than in Poland it self ;)
@@jammmy30 i was about to make a serious reply, but then i realised something 🤨
😂
Kaiserbauch videos be like "your race is gonna die, something something emannuel todd, the end" lol.
the emannuel todd is so true ahaha
Hahahahaha
Emmanuel Todd isn’t serious anymore at all
Stay Low And Watch Blacks Myrder Myhamedthans & Xebraic.
He seems so utterly unbothered by it, like hes presenting some mildly interesting college project
At classmates birthday there were 8 couples aged 28-32yo. Out of them only 1 had a kid. And this is more conservative young people who dislike mass-migration and lgbtq.
yeah the problem with conservatives is that they complain about immigration but then they are too lazy to have children
Tradlarpers
Some of them will in the next 2 or 3 years because the clock suddenly hits those post prime women... Ive seen it happen quite a lot. First time birthing age now is, roughly, 32 or 33...
@@Anton43218 Don't copy paste Americanisms onto eastern Europe. It's different.
@@sebsebski2829 what americanism are you talking about?
No worries guys I'm working on reversing it with my wife, wish me luck
How many kids so far? How many do you plan for? What's the age of you and you wife? If the answer is 10, 10 and 10, there's hope haha
You got this bro
God bless you.
This is the way
me too! My wife and I we have 5 children. Good luck
The internet has just raised people's mate standards to 10x what they themselves deserve.
People would rather die alone than date someone on their level.
I'd say perhaps it's the opposite - that the internet has massively lowered people's self-image because they're surrounded by images of supernaturally hot people and come to see that as average, and themselves as very ugly by comparison. So they hugely underestimate what league they're batting in.
i think its both
By people you mean women.
@@alexpotts6520 for men yes but women no. Dating apps show that women wont select at or below their own attractiveness. Men will go below their own attractiveness.
Whats happened with dating apps is the top 10% of men get the vast majority of matches while even average men will struggle with getting matches.
@@SerfinBird 20% of men was in the early 2010s 10% was in the late 2010s. In the early 2020s it was at 5%, I think I am clear with what I am suggesting?
This is the runaway effect of unchecked hypergamy and feminism.
Between the Golden Horde, The Russian Empire/Soviet Union, the Ottomans and the Germans. Eastern European really never experienced the level of insane growth in strength that Western Europe and especially America had, it’s a tragic story.
Western Europe is overrated, even Asia and Latin America beat it, and Eastern Europe is experiencing growth now
Germany and ruzzia our cancers. Germany has become our ally now though.
It did under the USSR, with it becoming the largest economy in the world (measured by 1983 GDP adjusted for purchasing power parity). However it overtook the rest of the world in industrial production in the 1930's. Truth is, Eastern Europe never recovered from WWII, revisionist market policies from 1950s-1989, and capitalism/shock therapy.
@@tempejkl Romania starved during communism. Idk what the hell you are saying.
@@tempejklSo everything went perfect for the commies and they still failed? Sounds like a fantastic ideology, where can I sign up?
In my personal experience, living in a big city is a big factor in having Children. I have 3 aunts and uncles on my Mother's side and 8 cousins, they all live in rural villages. On my father's side, I have just one uncle and one cousin, they live in a big city suburb.
Ich wünsche schonmal im voraus einen frohen Stolzmonat
Thats because city people have things to do besides raising children out of sheer boredom.
@@Peter_739 this point of view is both ignorant and reductive
@@Peter_739 Which is a good thing. Guess which side of the family is happier overall: the one that has a lot of money left for buying expensive cars and motorcycles, or the one spending lots of quality time together and supporting each other?
@@Peter_739 I know, right?
Hungary's supposed pro-natalist policies are mostly just window dressing. No wonder the effect on the birth rate is negligable when the policies' effect on families' financials is too. The job market does not accommodate part-time work almost at all, wages are terrible so it's basically impossible to survive on one salary. Housing is a gigantic issue with Chinese and Russian oligarchs buying up all the real estate, driving prices high so everything is stacked against young couples to start a family, and even when they do and have one child, in order to provide for that one, they can't afford to make a second baby.
Yea completely agree, while at the same time they taken on a ton of debt
Who could have thought that unchecked, free market would have repercussions...
Trumps election had a more profound impact on birth rate than policy like this. Whites increased while hispanics, blacks, and I think asians too, decreased during his term. Part of the answer has to lie in hope for the future. Policies are a managerial answer, and it may help a small amount, but it won't be the answer.
Living in Vienna I've ironically met a few young couples from Hungary, who are qualified workers yet can not afford a future in their home country
The white population of America only, increased due, to the influx of Hispanic immigration. Don’t forget, that their are Latinos of European descent. According to the US, census, the white Anglo population of the US, is about 60 percent, but when you add, white Latinos. It’s 77 percent.
Btw I'm Thai and as someone who loves history and geopolitics, it absolutely shocks me that no one, and I mean no one knows or cares about the low birth rates. I've met literally only one other person from high school who knew it was bad, and everyone in college thinks everything is fine. It really does seem like we have to wait until disaster comes for us to wake up.
In developing countries people are often still (idiotically) convinced that the problem is the opposite: too many kids, high birth rates. After all, we are poor and poor people have a lot of kids, right? Wrong! And these people don't even bother reading to know better. I remember when I was a kid there were magazine covers talking of a population time bomb when the fertility rate was crossing bellow 2.1! Unfortunately these people don't even try to learn the issues before writing about them
I mean, I would be happy to have kids, it's just really hard to get married, have and raise them. I will try anyway though.
If the overall population of earth was to decline I don't see how that's a problem we already have and will have problems of overpopulation... population shrinking is bad if the economy can't support it that's why there's need to be investment in ai and automation
Because education system in developing countries teaches about overpopulation
@@lilestojkovicii6618 I don't think that's the problem every country that got modernized and industrialized it's fertility rate got lower
As a Bulgarian I can say that this is a big problem and nobody seems to care about that in Eastern Europe. Young people forget that they would have to support more and more elderly people, so it puts a heavy burden on them, most likely resulting in higher taxes. This would make young people leave, resulting in even higher taxes for the people remaining. This is a death spiral that Eastern Europe is yet to enter.
To top it all off, our politicians are not doing anything about it. On the news, the biggest problems are if we should construct a hospital or not... The most important thing is neglected and as I said earlier, people in Bulgaria don't even know that the country going extinct in like 20-30 years is possible.
Nobody is doing anything to change that. Politicians do nothing. They assume that if they don't do anything, the problem would get fixed by itself. The thing is that if we don't do anything, we still fail, it just takes us 20 years to collapse and go extinct. I would prefer somebody to do something daring and bald. Even if it's the wrong choice and we collapse, at least we had a chance at success, as collapsing 20 years later is guaranteed.
I will move away from this country, it is not worth it. Still the best place in the world to visit as a tourist btw.
Despite the depressing overall Demographic makeup of Bulgaria, the country is actually doing a lot better than other European countries when it comes to fertility rate. Of course, one could argue that it's because of the gypsies having above-replacement fertility rate.
Most births in Bulgaria are from the Gypsy minority these days.
" I would prefer somebody to do something daring and bold." Like what?
@@anon2034 Italy is giving free housing to offset some regions being depopulated. Bulgaria can also give more right to certain people, or do 0% corporate tax, just to name a few. We will go extinct sooner or later, so we might try something like that
@@rewriting-history "give more right to certain people" Who?
"do 0% corporate tax" Probably the contrary. Soon a tax increase. With 10% tax you can't pay for that corrupt goverment.
the fall in fertility rate started well before internet and and social media.
Very true, but the acceleration in birth rate decline post-2007 can’t be denied.
The first major change was the sexual revolution, the Internet and social media then accelerated it in a second stage, as it amplified the affects of the sexual revolution.
@@derek44122007 just so happened to be the last year the United States had a fertility rate above replacement.
It started at the same time when new modes of entertainment appeared, such as the cinematograph and later the TV.
@@matthiuskoenig3378No the fall starts with Industrialization and urbanization, the sexual revolution comes much later in this process
One reason for the massive decline of rural areas is disproportionate female emigration. Macedonia was the last country in Christian Europe to drop bellow 2.1 and rural areas still maintained a tfr of at least 2.4 per woman. But we have just been hit with a massive consistent emigration wave so bad that the only people left between the age of say 22-35 in my village are single men.
And I can’t imagine what Ukraine is about to go through
Most rural areas in Macedonia are ethnically Albania.
@@anon2034 Albanian majority districts take up like 12% the national land area even though they are 24% of the population since they arrived as immigrants and settled more compactly
Страшно е....
Дръжте фронта македонци
this will just get worst as the demand for care workers will grow across the Europe
@@SmradimirKakac Nobody in Macedonia uses care workers ppl usually work until they can’t anymore (often into 80’s) and then stay with relatives. My great grandfather continued working on his farm until 87
Many places in Eastern Europe simply never reached a point where Care workers were affordable in the first place
Demographic collapse seems to be coming for us all. For countries with the means to do so, automation would probably be a very wise investment.
For the rulers of the countries, yes. For the rest, what's the point of working towards automation if there are no guarantees that the ruling class won't get rid of you once you've made yourself useless?
@@nsv8613 The robots have to be repaired.
@@vistagreat9994Robots will repair robots.
@@wilberdebeer4696 But then those robots also have to be repaired by humans & repairmen...
Sorry.
@@wilberdebeer4696who will overwatch the robots watching robots? Who will program them and patch them? ChatGPT still has a long way to go when it comes to writing accurate code, and even getting certain historical events right.
The uncomfortable truth is the more women get educated the worse the birth rate becomes. There is not a single country that has increased the average schooling per woman that hasn’t experienced serious drop in fertility. The only way to change this would be to somehow convince billions of women that instead of going to University they should start families which seems extremely unlikely to succeed. The only countries with high birth rates in the 22nd century will be poor countries where women are denied access to education like Niger, Afghanistan, or Somalia. It’s tragic how we’re the most prosperous generation of humans that’s ever lived but we can’t even fulfill our most basic biological responsibility
Only PATRIARCHY can save human kind!
If the overall population of earth was to decline I don't see how that's a problem we already have and will have problems of overpopulation... population shrinking is bad if the economy can't support it that's why there's need to be investment in ai and automation...and I don't think you have any responsibility to make children it's a personal choice everyone makes and you shouldn't force someone to do it
Why is this even a problem? Why is education correlated with a negative drop in fertility? Education for women, and even men with higher educated degrees have less children. I'm sure that there are always exceptions to this. But the general trend is that education is correlated with a negative drop in fertility. Is there a reason why the human cannot handle both education and children at once? Is it because the amount of time and effort invested into an education would be taking away the time and effort that would otherwise be spent on raising a child? I think so. I remember when I was a student, I was in survivial mode all the time, only focused on finishing assignments and exams successfully. I had little time for thinking about anything else, such as children. It means that the education system should be structured in such a way, that you can learn at whatever pace you please. No strict deadlines, no formal courses. Just let people learn as they go, don't be rushing them.
>It’s tragic how we’re the most prosperous generation of humans that’s ever lived but we can’t even fulfill our most basic biological responsibility
Going ever deeper than that, is there something fundamentally flawed with the human species? Implying that the human species is actually retarded? Implying that humans are uncapable of fulfilling their most basic biological responsibility outside of a medieval type of society? Implying that humans are biologically not evolved enough for advanced civilization? Implying that there will never come a time when a futuristic utopia will be created on this planet? Implying that the human species on this planet is destined for suffering? Implying that we are just souls reincarnated into inherently flawed human bodies temporarily onto this planet? Implying that we ought not to attempting creating something long term, since we are temporary in this world anyway? Implying that other than personal survival, nothing else matters in this world?
@@CaptainTex34 You only believe this because you must live in a country with low external threats. If your neighbors want to conquer you allowing your nation to become overburdened with an inverted demographic pyramid will end in a disaster.
@@CaptainTex34 Are we really overpopulated though?
> eastern europeans are going extinct
> shows map of western europeans going extinct
🤷♂
Ah yes the western countries of Poland and Russia, have you even seen the Video.
Both have declining populations. Much of western Europe has had low birthrates since the 1970s, Spain since the 80s I believe and eastern Europe was also declining at this time even when communism was still around. It got much worse in the former Soviet Union during the 90s when that country broke up and there have been major drug and alcohol issues in Russia . Western Europe is possibly as bad as East Europe but mass immigration has hidden the lack of live births amongst the native populations. The native Scottish population has declined by around 100,000 over the last couple of decades as an example. Growth in such places is entirely driven by foreigners moving there which is why people talk about replacement migration, immigrants aren't adding to the population, they're replacing the existing one.
this video is a joke, don't take the video seriously or too personal
@@damionkeeling3103 USSR decline? Wikipedia stats say otherwise, there were steady growth of population since establishment of union, except second world war period, and only in when it collapsed population stoped growing.
Makes you think that USSR had more favorable conditions to family development than modern day.
@@1KOLYANOS1birth rates started to fall in the mid 80s. In Russia itself it only went slightly above replacement rate in the 80s but was mostly under it. If you look at the whole USSR population increased because other countries were way above replacement rate
Quick summary: we are all fucked
Humanity will survive. But the capitalist system has entered its death phase.
No we are not.
@@tomorrowneverdies567 cope
@@YouNoob573 you believe we "all" are fucked then? How?
Have children
In my country, the United States of America, birth rates are dropping here too. And I'm Black American. The Black American fertility rate has dropped below replacement levels. It's not that far off from the Czech fertility rate. I'm living proof of a declining birth rate in America's Black population. I'm Black, age 38, and I don't have any children. My brother and sister are in their 30s too. Just like me, they don't have any children. We're all childless bachelors at this point.
Weird. Rural, religious types have higher birthrates and they tend to be White. First generation Hispanic immigrants also have more children maybe?
Yep, in just a generation, we went from Black people have too many kids, to not enough....I have 2 kids, and had 3 siblings, but my parents had 8 siblings each,....in my youth it was not uncommon for senior Black men to have multiple families
@@djblame8954 One reason I mentioned this is because of this impending concern about being in the minority. I'm Black and I am in the minority in America. I'm used to being in the minority. Whatever happens, it will remain the same for Black Americans. As for children, the birth rates are falling. I've never really had fear over that. At one time we had alot of children. Now we don't.
I mean, almost all ethnic groups in the US have below replacement level birth rates. Hispanics, Native Americans and Asians also have this.
I realized this 5 years ago. Europeans truly are the model. We were never going extinct. If anything everybody else is more likely to face it than us.
A guy from Podlasie (eastern, rural part of Poland) here, I got 2 brothers and 4 sisters (both them and me are full grown adults) and I see first hand how depressing demographics are, two of my sisters managed to get pregnant and now rise their children, even though one of them is single mother, third sister (the oldest one) says she never wants to have a child even though she has been in same relationship for more than a decade now, and fourth sister is sick requiring constant care from family. Male part of family is even worse, only my oldest brother managed to enter relationship, but his woman is unable to bear children, while me and the second brother got no game. It's over, Poland has fallen, 36 millions must perish
I'm your southern neighbour (Slovak Goral). I'm also from a rural eastern part of the country. Here, my neighbours have 3+ kids and one of my classmates in her 20s has already 3 children :D
I have 5 Polish former classmates. They are all 30 years old. None have children. Only one of them is married (she doesn’t want children). One has long term gf. Three are currently loners. None of them take the question of the survival of Polish state and demographics seriously. It is truly over.
Hi. Poland has more polish people now than it had in 1939. So no, Poland is not going to perish. And there is no need to have a fertility rate of >2.1 for ever. Poland would still exist if it was inhabited by 300k people, like Iceland is today. But I would suggest you try to stop immigration of peoples of considerably less good phenotype.
@@tomorrowneverdies567A smaller population isn’t too much of a problem. The issue is the population will be both smaller AND older. Making things way worse than the past demographically. Not to mention being flooded with foreigners
@@bobsteve4812 sort of, but have you accounted for the GDP per capita increase due to technological innovations? So even if the age distribution means that younger generations must pay more to sustain elderly people (pensions), this does not necessarily mean that young people in 2044 will be poorer than young people now.
In my country (Mexico) the fertility rate has declined severely in the most developed regions (northern and western Mexico)[They’re also the whitest regions. Do whatever you want with this piece of information 👀]. It’s the least educated and poor regions of the country that keep the fertility rate somehow “stable”.
So for us is simple. More education, less children.
also because of the crime many are still having children but prefer to go raise them in the US and that screws up the statistics
Same happened in Brazil
@@juan-ko5hz Nah. Data is very clear: People living in Mexico are simply not having kids. This is people that’s not migrating or thinking about doing so. It’s people in their reproductive age, working snd paying taxes that’s willingly giving up on having children.
En las ciudades tener hijos es un gasto alto. En el campo la gente costea mejor tener más hijos, además desde jóvenes ayudan en el campo a mantener la familia.
Saludos desde Panamá.
PD; No estoy seguro de como es la situación aquí, honestamente veo más gente y crecimiento de la ciudad, pero posiblemente llegue a su punto de balance y se mantenga o se baje hasta balancear. No sé.
@@hermitcard4494The most recent rate I see for Panama is 2.3 so above replacement and slow but sustainable growth. One of 4 or 5 countries in the Americas above replacement rate.
In Bucharest, Timisoara, Constanta, Cluj, the biggest romanian cities, if you order food, some guy from Nepal will deliver it. If you go to a shopping mall, you talk to the staff in English, they are mostly from Bangladesh. The street workers are also Asians, hotel staff, nannies from the Philippines and so on..
Not trying to start an argument or anything but Romanians used to be but an ethnic minority as well in half of these places you just mentioned (as well as in many others throughout Transylvania). But that's life, am I right? At least they deliver food to you instead of an eviction notice...
Same is happening more and more in Belgrade
@@manwiththeredface7821
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There are personal opinions and then there is the truth. You decide what you stick with..
It's so over, bros
@@manwiththeredface7821 Romanians have never been a minority in any major city in Romania, as far as I'm aware. Do you have proof of your claims?
Are you gonna make any optimistic videos bro
Please haha
NO 😄
Got to feed the algorithm
What's there to be optimistic about? I see the far right in my country almost all the people in the leadership positions don't have any kids but they love talking about need to increase our population
The Israel and US videos were both pretty optimistic
I am from Armenia and live in the US for almost 20 years. I am almost 40 and never married and never fathered kids. When I was younger I thought about it but as I moved into my early 30s, I was seeing more cons than pros in marriage and kids.
Now, even if you magically could eliminate the above mentioned cons, I will still likely avoid marriage and fatherhood because I enjoy the pros of single life!
And I observe that I am not the only one. There is a cold war going between men and women on a massive scale - we hardly even talk to one another so less people meet and marry. I enjoy watching the decline of the civilization from the comfort of my couch!
I’m Baltic, live the same way and agree.
TBH countries birth rates depend on women not men since only women can get pregnant
So you are not making any difference anyway
Smart comment, I agree
I'm from Iran and people over here don't want to have kids especially the younger generations, they even shame people who choose to have a kid in this country, because of the economical and moral crisis in Iran and if this continues I see a future where Afghanians will replace Iranians one day because of the mass influx from Aghanistan, there was an article about the birth rate of Afghanians in Iran and one of the hospitals mentioned in the article had a crazy estimation of between every 300 children given birth in that hospital, 271 of them were Afghanians and the rest were Iranians.
The way they estimated was by their ID cards, because Afghanians who have came to Iran illegally don't have ID cards which wraps around more than 90% of Afghanians in Iran.
And the government does not seem to care because they can use their men to oppress Iranians in their own homeland because on the other side most of Iranians don't want to torture their own compatriots.
Western Civilization in its current form is unsustainable long-term due to extremely low birthrates. And many nations, including young Iranians and Eastern Europeans, want to live like a Westerner. We need a very serious discussion about what's happening to the World's nations and the unsustainability of the Western model.
@@bLaffix I don't think it's the western life that attracts so many people, it has more to do with freedom, liberty, financial stability and safety... things that their countries seem to lack, especially islamic states in the middle east... I know so many people who want to migrate to the west only and only because of human rights crisis and not seeing a good financial future for themselves, they're not seeking the western life... America and the entire west need to realise that with the peace in middle east the world would be a much better place for everyone including the west but all America has done was to destabilize the middle east even further, what they need to do is to listen to people and not the governments and bring freedom to the middle east and not to seek their own interest in the process and see it as an investment for a better future and not to do it only for oil with discount
Even in Iran? Oh wow.
And I thought Feminist Islam was a silly joke.
We musn't let them get away with this.
@@Mayhzon Actually it's mostly Iranian men who don't want kids, not women.
Because the majority of Iranian women are housewives which leaves the husband to do all the money making for the family and as you might have guessed, financial situation in Iran is not normal to say the least and salaries hardly ever increase for a country in financial crisis with over 600% inflation in the last 2 years, (the charts say about 50% but for the people who actually live in Iran the price of some items double in less than a week)
Raising a child is very expensive and takes up a lot of their time so couples decide to procrastinate and try to build up a good life so that they'll be able to afford it, and after that they'll realise the moral crisis in Iran and think to themselves "Do we really want to bring up a kid in Iran which can potentially be a girl and be harassed and assaulted by the government's morality police? and be under so much pressure by her teachers on the matter of hijab and saying her prayers properly?"
So the next thing they think about is to migrate to another country with stability and moral health.
And there is no such thing as feminism in Iran, Iranian men and women don't see eachother as enemies unlike the west because they have a common enemy which is the government that oppresses both genders.
It's capitalism and moral values of so called Western Civilization. When everything is a subject of trade nothing permanent remains. Neither men nor women trust to each other and all of them try to guarantee their future using every possible methods. Emigration of women also sources from this and leads to imbalance and ugly shape of concurrency arising. All this finally leads to total society destruction. However, in West countries it's being (temporarily) a bit less sharper due to an influx of colonial profits and poor immigrants ready for everything. Non-Western choosers of 'Western way' don't have such support so they simply destruct themselves every day. Of course somewhen it will reach awful end. The rescuing will came via setting of cruel dictatorship with total refusal of 'human rights' and pro-Western ideology. Or alternatively these societies will free their territories for other, more vital nations.
KaiserBauch presents the Final Solution to the woman question
It will come inevitably.
Presented by Darwin.
Survival pressure will replace feminism.
It will be interesting to see what comes next.
@@spambot_gpt7 acceptance of this fact will come next. Facts over feelings.
@@spambot_gpt7 that seems to me a bit too optimistic. The first feminists came from conservative families, the don't need to reproduce to spread the virus
People must even forcefully have kids because this is an existential threat. And there are no economic problems as in the past Greece was far poorer with homes made of mud on unreachable mountains yet people still had kids.
@@thanasisrks4944What would happen to a society when you have a bunch on unwanted and unloved kids. Forcing people to have kids they dont want isnt good for the health of a society either.
And yes. Money is still a major factor. I have zero prospects of owning an home currently. I simply dont get paid enough There is certainly no room for a kid.
I for one am optimistic about Poland.
A week ago I learned that Poland has more than 40 million people for the first time in history. We have a lot of immigrants from Belarus and Ukraine who mostly work (in the West it looks different 60%+ Ukrainians in Poland work in Germany this number does not exceed 20%) and in general are able to integrate quickly.
Europe in the future will look like that whoever “steals” more hardworking people will win.
What amuses me to this day is that emigration from Poland to the west is mainly the bottom of society and immigration to Poland is mainly people with higher education.
Our job is to raise wages, modernize the country, maintain the current level of security in the streets and mitigate conflicts and hardworking people from the region will want to move here.
For countries like Belarus/Ukraine this is unfortunately a tragedy.
If you look at Poland's birth rates then there is nothing to be optimistic about. They're currently at the lowest they've ever been in history and will likely keep declining. Immigrants from Belarus and Ukraine are just a bandaid and that too will stop at some point.
Most Immigrants from Ukraine will go back when the war ends
Look at the age pyramid. It’s already over. The fertility rate will go below 1 for sure too. Your optimism comes from a picture in time, because it doesn’t look bad now and it wont look bad in a year. However, 10-20 years from now will be horrendous. The Belarus and Ukrainian immigration has already dried up.
@@let0atreides I'm not saying that the situation is perfect, there is just a chance that there won't be a tragedy like in Ukraine or Belarus.
The economy and a sense of security are the main topics we need to focus on.
In the end the Poles STILL need to have children. That means far more young women having 2 children minimum, and some having 3. And that means the fathers of those children dedicating themselves to a life of hard work to support those children, despite the increase cost of raising children. There is NO other solution that will work.
It's all too grim for the soul to withstand
the future of mankind, robots and Africans.... or maybe just robots, lol
We lost soul two hundred years ago...
@@swjackson2 I hope the liberal elites can at least figure out how to get Africa to reduce their birthrate along with everyone else.
@@swjackson2 If so then it is likely just the Africans.
The european union ate our demography and now wants to eat our remainings.
The USA is doing same with central and southern American, fertility rates plumitting and population declines are about to start due to people leaving. Feel for Eastern European, especially the people of the Balkans.
So you blame the EU for Central and Eastern Europeans not having more children and leaving their homeland for western Europe and the USA?
Take some accountability, it wasn’t the eu that reduced your birth rate
@@austriasalzburg they’ll blame anything but themselves
even blaming migrants even though migrants don’t favor Eastern European lmao
Russia : oh hell nah
*invades*
Polish here; my grandmother from my mothers side 1/14 children. ONE OF FOURTEEN! My mother was 1/2. I am a single child. I'm planning my family with my fiance, probably 2 max 3 kids.
*Minimum 3 kids. Not maximum.
After 2nd it will be easier :)
Children are extremely expensive. You will stop at two
Same; grand-granny 1/13; granny 1/8; mother[my aunt has 4] 1/2; myself 1; plan to get at least 4 God willing.
Me too, my grandmother = 11 children.
My mother = 6 children.
Me = 4 children max.
Allahu akbar!
Too low: try 5
Isn't Israel's population growth primarily among religious orthodox Haredi, not among secular urbanites?
Also, I'm skeptical of hypothesis that stability enables higher birth rate. We have counter example of sub Saharan Africa and Somalia. These regions are anything but politically stable, and yet they enjoy very high birth rates.
My hunch is that all the stability and prosperity brought on by industrialization and development somehow ends up suppressing aggregate survival instincts humans - basically, life is easy so we don't live very hard.
The answer probably lies in evolutionary biology, something to do with selection pressure and group response.
Every country that modernized it's fertilities rates dropped
Exactly
Ghana is a politically stable country. And many other African countries are pretty politically stable.
@@pkom6418 most of Africa is politically unstable they can't go a few years without coups
They have stable families and clans. The hyper industrialisation did not bring any stability. Per say an industrial mechanic could work his whole life in the position he held in a factory until the automation took over from 90s onward. Now an industrial mechanic needs to look for work in many places, and often has to move. Btw I am myself an automation technician and had to move a lot.
The problem is that when you set up massive social welfare systems it necessitates an ever-expanding population to care for the aging population. When economic times are tough and young people aren't breeding as much, the aging population sure as shit is NOT gonna give up their benefits. So politicians begin importing people en masse, which in theory shouldn't be an issue. But Europeans are slowly learning that this mass importation is leading to a culture change and friction. It'd be one thing if the people imported were other westerners. We import Hispanics in the Americas, and for as many issues as that presents they are still fundamentally westerners. You guys have the 'death to the west' stock you're so particular of.
We must take in at least 500 million peaceful doctors and engineers from Africa
Only for now, after 20 years their fertility rate will decline. I am from India; the fertility rate is below average and declining. After 15 years, we will need immigrants.
@@matheenarif8645 Impossible to predict with any certainty. Africa has already grown far more than India in the past century and continues to grow much faster. It may peak, but if that peak is at a population larger than the rest of the planet combined, it will still have large implications.
Fuck that
They’ll mix with the European populations to help raise the population be happy
@@matheenarif8645about time you guys calmed the F down
People don't realize how long it would take even with a low fertility rate for a population to be reduced to nothing. The curve for population halving every generation is asymptotic above zero and gets flatter the lower it gets. And people also don't realize that you have to account for segments of population with above fertility rate which can dramatically alter the prediction long-term.
This. I don't understand why don't we invest in hyper breeders rather than forcing everyone to have kids.
@@zorandusic7079Problem is, the “hyperbreeders” are usually not the people you want more of.
Everyone nation to have it's own version of Haredi Jews/Amish/Laestadians?
What youre saying isn't realistic all this countries have economies, that means labour old people don't work and with a declining population you have more old people and less young people that keep the country running and contribute to pension of the old, so yes it will take a long time for a population to be reduced to nothing but much before then. I doubt that country would even still be properly functioning since the young are likely to leave due to over taxation
@zorandusic7079 the problem is there is active propoganda and indoctrination destroying the majority of demographics that are hyper breeders absorbing them into the wider population and actively fighting against the encorugments to breed, and the only hyper breeders that are not affected are in cultures that are not enthusiastic to cooperate in a stable modern society.
You thus need to encourage everyone to breed so that the hyper breeders can be reignited in the general population, and so that people are not discouraged into becoming a hyper breeder by the general population.
It doesn't have to be this way. We have to work together and prevent it. May the beauty of our people never disappear.
It's over. Reproduction is way beyond replacement levels.
We did to ourselves what the Germans, Ottomans and various other Asian groups tried for centuries and failed.
All because of greed and false sense of equality
@IceSpiceNationalistfor that you need to be a beneficiary of nepotism
Beauty? Humanity is not beautiful.
@@kirishima638 well not all of it for sure 😂
Iceland is only 300k inhabitants. Consider that. It would take centuries for a country like Poland or Serbia to reach this number.
I think the argument of the video is very strong. The internet is a powerful tool that disconnects people from their social reality and connects them to an immaterial global context. This means natural socialization which leads to family formation declines, and it also means that people start associating themselves culturally and ideologically to things very different from their peers and that don't emerge necessarily from their local context (both in the left with progressivism, and in the right with the new alt-right). It's very complicated and this erosion starts from the top of society (the conected, anglophone upper classes, where fertility in Brazil already is ultralow) but has gotten to a point that it now affects the bulk of the population as well.
Have more children, you can come back from a small population not from a mixed population.
I agree but with what money?
No race mixing then?
Nobody wants to struggle. We live in a hedonistic society before anything else, pain is a dystopian choice that is avoided
@@ChristianDoretti rather, the strategy of the rich- divide and conquer work too well, even for their own tastes.
nuclear family, nuclear house , 8-12 hrs a day wrok , 1-2 hrs a day tv/internet
then sleep.
why have children? its a distopian way of life. empty of meaning. there is no comunity.
the kids would go into the same routine!
its pure horror story. one must be very cruel to create kids in such environment...
@@iliaalekov2949 What's wrong with Nuclear Families? They are better than very parasitic communitarian families. Even then, those countries have lower fertility rates that nuclear ones.
As a Greek, I must say that this phenomenon has already impacted Greece. Eastern Europeans, may God help you in this crisis.
Praying for Greek bros..... We must push through🇬🇷🗿🤝🇧🇬 We are the guardians of Europe
Courage. There are still intact individuals, these must recover the nations and the genetics of us. Avoid mixing races at any cost. We have special and precious genetics, do not lose it, the Balkan nations are extremely important and special in this regard. Keep yours and save it. We will survive this crisis again. Remember, we are the oldest ones, maybe in the whole world, for a reason!
There is no Crisis!
@@brunoheggli2888 I think the fact that there are more non-Greeks in large Greek cities than actual Greeks speaks for itself
@@panapolyEpirusWhy should that matter?There is no Crisis nowhere,things getting better everywhere and Europe is a paradies anyway!The future looks so bright!
13:40 In Germany we don't call our "Greatest Generation" the Greatest Generation for some reason...
💀
Also "Silent Generation" got a far different connotation here.
I don't call them that in the US either. I call them the GI generation.
Because our young offspring is ungrateful and ate the "message" whole.
😆
the only people I know under 30 that have children are religious
Yup, the religious will win. Natural selection
then again I know a lot of religious people as I am a mormon
@@TheSwedishHistorian Are you of swedish ancestry or mormon and swedish?
@@eatinsomtin9984 Native swede that lives in sweden
@@TheSwedishHistorian wow, that's pretty rare that you're a mormon. May God grant you as many children as you want.
Chilean here: The main reason is the cost of living. Being a neo-liberal experiment, there is limited state support for ensuring education and healthcare, disincentivizing fertility. At the same time, the rise in women in the labor market in the last decades fueled the delay in having children. The income differences are abysmal when weighing the "benefits" of having children compared with the benefits of not having them.
a fair point, but we've seen multiple counts now of people refusing to have children even when the price barrier is removed.
So are western Europeans though. Eastern Europe may shrink, but at least it wont be replaced (hopefully).
It will be eventually
Don’t worry, Eastern Europeans will age out and play victim card and say they got replaced
We will just go extinct eventually at this rate.
There is no difference. E Europe will become a colony of non European economic hegemony. We love high living conditions, but if the working demographic isn’t replaced, poverty and decline are inevitable.
East Euros will be replaced...its only a matter of time
The main problem is women delaying having children and unplanned childlessness.
The solution to this problem is simple, the government needs to help and assist most men to have some sort of higher social status, better physical mental and more money faster. This will entice women to marry early, reducing late marriages and have more opportunities for children.
We need to glorify motherhood as much as possible.
The idea that society will ever do anything for low value men is laughable.
You guys can jockey all you want but there’s no getting around the obvious: women’s rights. It has to go
Government is the problem, not the solution.
You think they'd do that, when the current state is what they worked so long for in the first place?
You're a funny guy. I like you. Now look at who introduced sexual promiscuity, destruction of family and more... It was government.
Demographics of Ukraine
Live births:
2012: 520,705
2023: 187,387
What a catastrophe. Win or lose, in the current war, Ukraine is doomed as a nation, this is tragic.
there is a war in Ukraine from 2014. russia has no war but the population of russians also decreasing.
1989 147 342 000
2002 145 306 500
2010 142 849 500
@@ihorv44 yeah but they annexed most of Donbass and Crimea which is 7 million people. Some fled to Ukraine, some from rest of Ukraine moved to Russia and maybe half a million Russians left since 2022. Population of Russia is probably close to 150 million now
@@Srbenda126 putin said there are already 300 million russians. don't you believe putin, comrade Ivanov?
@@Srbenda126 146.2 Probably it counts with annexed regions.
I cannot tell you how many times I encounter people saying "we are overpopulated" in response to whatever challenge is being discussed... it seems that the impression of a Malthusean catastrophe has become so deeply rooted among the intelligensia that they are not even willing to consider the idea that it's wrong; and they flat out refuse to look at more up to date data.
These same people turn around and claim we need immigration too. And turn around again to say feminism/reproductive rights needs to be protected. Totally unserious
The world is overpopulated. Moreover, economies based on the absolute necessity of continuing population growth are, by definition, unstable.
It's not wrong, you have no clue what you're talking about, the data clearly shows patterns in birthrates based on the stage of civilizational and economic development, if you want high birthrates go live in poverty or in a poor country.
Not a surprise. The educated are also the most indoctrinated.
@@akatsukicloak You're beyond help. I hope for bad tidings for your future.
Standard of living goes up - birthrate goes down.
People become educated - people reproduce less.
Greece is for some illogical reason is not part of Eastern Europe.
Unlike easten Europe, Greece was under the sphere of influence of the West. Both financialy and culturaly.
We are more Southern i guess. We should count as Eastern because of how simmilar we are to other balkan countries.
It's either a part of Southern Europe or the Greater Middle East just like Cyprus. Can't be both tho.
@@jostnamane3951 are Bulgaria, Albania and North Macedonia also parts of the "Greater Middle East" then? The whole of the Balkans maybe?
@@tomorrowneverdies567 No, because people from the above-mentioned countries are of Slavic or Illyrian heritage, while Greeks have historically been more connected to the Middle East. For instance, in the early 20th century, around 2 million Greeks lived in Asia Minor, which includes parts of modern-day Turkiye, Syria, and Lebanon. compared to roughly 4 million Greeks living in Greece at that time. Prior to the Greek War of Independence, the majority of Greeks lived in Anatolia and the northern Middle East. So, without a pro-European bias, one could argue that Greeks are part of the Greater Middle East. Remember that Cyprus, a republic with a majority Greek population of around 70%, is already considered part of the Greater Middle East.
I'm from Bulgaria and for a while my country was the fastest depopulating country in the world. That was before covid and the war, now the situation is not exactly good, but kinda improving, my point though is that this is a painful issue for our society and most people are aware of it. We're not blind, we see what's coming. There is a widespread sentiment that we're going extinct, not least because of the fact that the white bulgarians have lower fertility than the gypsies. So this sentiment may explain, at least partly why our overall fertility increased in the last couple of years. We are scared, we don't want to die as a nation. Another thing, as painful as it is, the war in Ukraine actually benefits us quite a bit, our economy is better because of energy and arms sales, we have positive net migration thanks to the ukrainian refugees, who are mostly young and some are well off. We are strangely stable at the moment.
Други българи които мислят по тези неща като теб ме кефят💪.
Въпреки всичко оставам оптимистичен- няма да се предаваме! Поне 3 деца
This is a strange phenomenon that we in the euro diaspora don’t grasp. Your neighbors are all fellow Europeans, but we have non Europeans in our former colonial outpost ‘countries’ (economies zone), so you guys see your neighbors as mere rivals mostly correct? We see ours (Mexico etc) as an existential threat because they aren’t us. They can’t ‘assimilate’ to us without destroying us.
I moved to Bulgaria recently and kinda not sure what will be the situation in 30 years when I will retire, I am afraid its not gonna be good here.
Please make videos on
- why low birth rates are a problem
- responding to popular antinatalist arguments
- reviewing proposed demographic solutions
It is simple.
- no country ever in history has recovered from extremely low birth rates, it falls into downward spiral and the nation dies off. Weak countries get conquered by stronger ones. Even if that wouldn't happen, steeply declining demography is a disaster from economic standpoint, few people in productive age must provide for large generations of elderly. It is loss of cultural identity.
- antinatalism is by definition anti-human. We portrait German national socialists as supervillains (which they were), but portrait antinatalists as moral. That makes no sense.
- solution is complex, but it will surely include religion and return to traditional family model, promoting family values, motherhood and curbing down feminism ( good luck with that in current society)
he has already
@@jirislavicek9954 I think your solutions involve putting a lot of genies back into bottles. Politics is the art of the possible and your proposals are impossible.
And "curbing down feminism" isn't even a solution, lol. Why are you blaming women for low birth rates anyway? Last time I checked you needed one of each to make a baby...
@@jirislavicek9954 -3 Don't forget banning contraception.
@@jirislavicek9954 Solution first and foremost requires a strong and competent government that is also actually interested in solving such issues, otherwise nothing much gets done. Control of the media and what it tells the people is probably one of the key factors.
The question is: how much are people willing to rewind the hedonistic tools of technology and go back to the scary and uncomfortable real life.
True story
This is like saying let’s give up houses and go back to caves
The answer is: not much.
You included, writing this on some sort of device.
I dont think we have to.
House prices and Land on the country side will be cheap, we will be able to afford cars, computers and machinery to do hard or monotone work for us.
Working office jobs in the winter time will be the norm.
Why SHOULD they? Billions worked hard CREATING those technologies to make future people's lives easier: Future relative to those in the past, still in OUR past.
The one thing you don't mention is housing. Young people are simply unable to buy houses and move out to set up a family. In Poland the situation is not only bad but it's WORSENED by the government policies. An average family on the average income will be very hard pressed to move into their own house and start a family. It's a disaster
They are unable to buy an house in their preferred big city, in rural areas housing is always much more affordable
But why is it necessary to buy a house? You can rent.
@@ryanfalgoretti this entire video was about how horrible it was to live in the rural areas in eastern europe, and you are not correct. In the rural areas you are basically forced to build a house, which is actually more expensive than buying a flat
@@tomorrowneverdies567 renting makes you vulnerable to the whims of the landlords, who might force you to move if he stops offering business, or has their own financial problems. Then you'll have to adjust the kids school, and your own workplace, it's not something new parents even want to think of. Renting is much more expensive than just paying communal services, and especially people with a small child need every extra penny for it, especially if they are supposed to have 2 or 3 kids so that the population can grow. Also, if you loose your job, you're screwed.
And finally, renting is the greatest scam of all time, because it doesn't allow you to amass your own wealth for the future of the children.
@@MiSt3300 There are plenty of small towns with reasonable housing options that do not require you to build from scratch, at most renovate a bit. If the big cities grew so much is by leaving a void elsewhere
It's over bros, millions will cease to exist
Billions must
millions? how bout half of human race and that is 4b.
In the Balkans fertility rates for all countries are underestimated due to unaccounted for emigration. Best example is Kosovo. The fertility rate of 1.65 on wiki assumes a population of 1.8M ... however Kosovo likely has 1.5M inhabitants. So their fertility rate for example is actually above 2.0.
Less than 1 M live in Kosovo, including all nationalities.
Around 40,000 people annually, mostly Albanians, migrate from Kosovo to Western Europe and Scandinavia.
More Albanians in future Serbia then.
@@milostomic8539 I see Serbs say this all the time. Given the number of children born in Kosovo yearly, less than 1 Million residents would mean the Albanian fertility rate is 3-4 kids per woman ! that is just not possible in 2023. Kosovo also still has more than twice as many births as deaths ... while Serbia and my Croatia is opposite.
@@horvatlovren7198 That was 30 years ago.
Have you ever been to Kosovo?
@@milostomic8539 No, the statistics I am talking about are for 2022, not 30 years ago. And Yes, I was in Mitrovica for a friends wedding 2 years ago. The difference between Albanian south and Serbian north was big. The south side of the river where Albanians lived seemed full of young people and liveliness, while the northern part seemed dead and mainly with old people.
Finishing the job of WWII. The painter failed but feminism and liberalism succeded.
So sad and evil
the painter was against Slavs, as well, and he contributed to the death of millions of Germans, too. He was the enemy of humanity. period.
@@NoctLightCloud well, that a strange interpretation. I'm not sure what's your point though?
@@Ducac321 he brought more destruction and shame to the German people than anything else. he didn't do them nor anyone else any good.
Raising more than 1 or 2 children in an urban apartment is a nightmare! Sometimes even two children is almost too much because
this often requires a 3-bedroom apartment. That does not come cheap!
they move to rural areas
@@ryanfalgoretti
If they can afford to do so and are able to
get to their job.
Parent here... Let me tell you, parenting is f'in hard. Job doesn't care, no accommodations at all. Can't do part time and still earn well. Home office big no no, maybe 1 day if you're lucky. Childcare expensive af - unaffordable for average earners so one parent sacrifices the "career". And people stare you down when the kid screams in public (as children do). It's the most ungrateful role you could possibly come up with.
i don't know what its like were you are but were i live apartments are more expensive than houses but a lot of people still choose to live there for some reason
@@belstar1128
Some people do not want to have a long
commute to work. An hour or more each
way, to and from work day really chews up one's time.
5:22 This data doesn't take immigration into account so its bascially useless without making a distinction here. The real "german" birth rate is lower than 1.0, but being propt up by turkish/syrian immigrants.
10:28 Literally a lot of the nations with lower inflation have also lower birth rates, what the hell are you trying to prove here? It has literally no connection at all.
10:41 This also has only a minor effect if you would look at the wars that happened before the nineties... Wars have been part of eastern europe since the dawn of time... They still made lots of children before, so again this has nothing to do with the birth rate.
Why did you always cut off the graph of the birth rates before were there was a way higher birthrates? You think just looking at 40 years of data is enough or what? Why did you not mention the areas where there is still high birth rates like the amish or the orthodox jews in israel? Because if you looked at them maybe you could have found out the real reason for birth rates collapsing.
The part about Germany isn’t entirely true. Though the Muslim immigrant population (Turkish/Syrian) have contributed to an increase in birth rate, the birth rate of ethnic “Germans” isn’t below 1.0. The PEW research Center estimates that the birth rate for ethnic Germans is at around 1.4 children per woman while the birth rate of Muslim woman in Germany is at 1.9 (which is the lowest in Europe for Muslim woman).
@@JohnSmith-ns8do thank you for pointing this out.
There aren't that many Muslims to raise the national birthrate that much
Almost as if everything is going according to plan…
Yes indeed, the first step is to realize that there is a plan. And that we've been in it for very long - from the 1940s, at least.
What plan?
@@ancapistanowns696 what plan? evidence?
Oy vey
There is no plan. People are simply naturally egoistic and want more time & resources for themselves, so it's very hard to raise in proper conditions children without sacrifices
To get a woman in Eastern Europe is easy. To get a committed wife and long-time partner with family values is super hard. Especially at younger demographics, below -+30
Spot on!
I grew up in the Bible Belt of the US. The older I get the more I realized how phony and hollow tradionals values and people were. This was America not Europe. But I dont think there would be much difference. Many older tradional folks might act like they are morally superior and have better morals and lives. But most of em dont. It was kinda a shock to me learning so. Be they young or old many people are twisted.
@@baronvonjo1929 It's not the same. American protestants are very different from European Catholics.
Yes because they realize importance of family values only after they turn 40 or so
Literally every man talks like that, in every country, so it’s not a E European problem
Chilean here,
The main reason for the decline in fertility rate is the rapid economic development of the country in the last 30-40 years.
Due to the liberalization of the economy and opening of markets, the possibilities of quality and good-paying employment increased for a significant sector of the population. This leads to the classic decision of women to prefer career development over family formation.
This is added to the fact that Chile, despite not being such a high-income country (almost 25.000 usd per-capita), is quite expensive and having children becomes a heavy economic burden.
From the beginning of the 20th century (6.16) until today (1.68), the fertility rate has constantly declined and in recent times has only increased in small fractions due to the massive influx of Caribbean immigrants. And also, the mean age is now 35 years so we are aging quite fast.
Does it sound familiar?
Portugal’s births increased due to the mass immigration because local birth rates have decreased.
The worst for our populations is yet to come, great video.
Was just wondering if you had a video on this earlier as I was listening to your other stuff, great! Looking forward to watching tonight
I just got done listening to your Nuremberg Trial vid great stuff
Don't show him your video on the Czech occupation lol.
Well, fancy seeing you here!
Question: Why did you say that the alliance between the USSR and Germany was purely out of convenience rather than ideological similarity, but then argue that the alliance between Ukrainian forces and Germany proves that Germany had friendly relations with slavic people?
@@bomberharris1943 Based bombmaxxer
On the positive side, a decade or two ago Eastern Europe was a negative exception when it comes to demographics while nowadays it's just another region dealing with the same problem (and doing better than many places such as Chile, Spain, China or Korea). In football terms, even if we're making mistakes, our rivals aren't taking advantage of it. The only exceptions are Africans (this is temporary i think) and Jews (who are...a rather unique people).
The last group you mentioned is causing these issues for us, by manipulating our legislative bodies. These legislative bodies than write legislation that hurts us severely. Not that they didn't before, but they make it worse.
I was born in 2001 and live in Poland and want to have kids but I can completely understand people in my generation who think this is just not in the works for them.
1. Inflation
2. Home prices through the roof
3. War and conscription threat
4. No presence of extended family (literarily have no relationship with aunts uncles, brothers, sisters and grandparents so expect that raising kids is something they have to do alone)
5. Changing gender realities while gender expectations remain the same (both men and women)
6. Widely spread and propagated hedonistic worldviews
7. Living under the constant threat of „climate catastrophe” means they have gotten used to living without any ambitions and aspirations because it’s all pointless.
8. Increased migration from non European countries and weaponised immigration
9. Very little social and emotional intelligence (lockdown in their most formative young adult years, living with social media)
10. Motherhood being villainised by many vocal social groups
I mean the list goes on… Unless there is some kind of huuuge ideological/cultural change proportionate to the end of communism (only referring to scale) I can’t see any way out of this.
The stability does not only come from economic, political or peace situation.
Stability has a lot to do with STABLE FAMILIES. If the legal system is extremely men-unfriendly women make the families (75% devorces initiated by women) unstable. Many men don't want to start families anymore because the risk of being ruined by devorce is too high.
Israel has kept their moral high. Its people are confident in their mission, and woman and their children are seen as essential to ensure Israels future. Meaning in most “white” countries motherhood is denigrated.
Blame feminism
@@constantinethecataphract5949 and the red-pilled community which is mostly made of edgy 15-year-olds who don't know sh!t about the world around them but are quick to blame women for the supposed "downfall of men"
@@constantinethecataphract5949 and what group did an overwhelmingly large number of feminist belong to?
@@mattmccallum2007
Oh boy, my account will be deleted again if i answer that lol.
@@constantinethecataphract5949 feminism just like communism was invented by jews
sensational summary - very well researched and thoughtfully presented - kudos
And Slavs killing other Slavs like in Ukraine war is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard of.
Your statement about the middle class having low birth rates (because of the fear of changes to society) compared to both the rich and poor got me thinking...
On an individual scale, we see this statement is often accurate: Trump and Elon Musk, as well as poorer people in most developed countries having higher birth rates.
But on a country scale, it seems only poor countries ever have high birth rates - no "rich countries" have high birth rates...
I guess because the people that aren't "rich" within the rich country are middle class, that leads to low birth rates.
Cost of living is crucial. Switzerland is "rich" but everything is expensive for its citizens.
They want to stay rich.
@@tann_man very true, its a interesting dilemma, especially for smaller countries that are greatly affected by demographic changes like immigration.
"Rich" countries are predominantly middle class
Between 1850 and 1950, it was actually rich countries which had high birth rates. People were less selfish and more family oriented. And a father could easily feed his wife and 4 children from his own job, because the money he earned had actual value and was not devalued by inflation. We have to realize that this mass depopulation is not happening by coincidence, but there is an agenda behind it.
I live in kosice , at the very backward poor edges of the EU and even here ive noticed many east Asian and south Asian people and their kids living here.
If there are coming here you can expect many more of them in Poland and Czechia in the future.
Who are south Asians?
How many indians living your country?
Google it
Indians are majority Hindus which has nothing to do with Islam Christianity Judaism
to be fair, I know 3 polish girls, 1 Czech, and 2 Romanians who moved to Japan. It's not one-sided.
@@NoctLightCloud It is given the numbers, and anyway, Europeans going to Japan doesn't magically mean Indians should come here.
Excellent video essay! Thanks Kaiser.
Hi, im from Chile, the situation here is decent I guess, the biggest issue is the cost of living is high af, specially for young people, the usual age people is going out from their parents house is rapidly nearing 30 years old, so is hard to have children in a small house that's allready full of people.
Your population is aging fast. You’re already taking in immigrants from Haiti and Bolivia. It’s over
I considered moving from Europe to South America, probably to Argentina; although with all their problems I'm not so sure. But trust me, Europe is s%*-t these days (and I'm from the Western Europe)
A detail is about divorse… a woman to get married a second time, it doesn’t help to have more than one child. Then, relation is no seen as for life… It might be the strongest factor?
What?
Have children atleast 4.
This can fix it.
With what money?
You'll need to be working to live like a middle class person from developing country.
@@Anton43218 with no money, mate: eat cabbage & potato soup with some occasional bacon all your life & live in a very smol thatched house with six children like our peasant great-great-great grandparents did (I'm half-serious, half-joking)
@@derfelcadarn8230 House ? With this renting prizes ?!? Tent you mean i think
Step by step tutorial requested.
love your channel, keep it up!!!!
Criminally underrated channel
… I bet it wasn’t this bad since the armies of Subotai visited Poland 😂
Careful with that title, you'll summon all the Poles saying "wE'Re cEnTRaL EurOpeAn!!1"
I think a major reason for decline of TFR in the post-covid period is an increase of the real estate prices and inflation. Generally speaking, bringing and rising children becomes very expensive. And no gevernement can compensate these costs. So with time there is less and less "philantropes" which are ready to bring kids and sponsor the society. And more those who hope to be sponsored by children of others.
i think it can be some factor, but not the main one. From my perspective you dont have children if there are no couples. And there are less couples, because between 2020 - 2022 the young people had no option to get know each other, they were closed mostly alone at home. Just because of that, you can also see a huge wave of mental problems right now.
That and lockdowns have isolated people: both directly and by pushing remote work significantly. Takes two to tango, if you don't meet a spouse you obviously won't have a kid.
Also rises in unemployment and sluggish economy. The overall environment is massively pessimistic for the first time, really, since ww2.
Yeah good point. I think that whole "living off someone else's children" will probably turn into a public, mainstream discussion rather soon. I, as a father, think of that a lot. I'm also starting to think about my wealth structure to set up my kid so he doesn't have to slave away to sustain the ego- maniac a** holes.
I just really don't think this adds up from a zoomed-out perspective. You take the long view of human history, it is affluence, not deprivation, that is correlated with low fertility. Countries have invariably seen their birth rates fall as they industrialise; and the countries with the highest birth rates today tend to be the poorest.
We've also seen this with various countries trying to create financial incentives to have kids - it has been very expensive and delivered zero extra babies. Which is confusing from a homo economicus perspective but actually makes more sense if you just think about how humans operate. Can you imagine a wife flirtatiously winking at her husband and saying, "the government just introduced a tax break if we have another kid, damn doesn't that put you in the baby-making mood?" People never had kids for economic reasons so thinking that economic incentives will persuade them to have more is perverse.
During the Ottoman rule, Bulgarians experienced a massive population decline. I heard our population went down to the hundreds of thousands. Forty years ago we were over 9 million. This is why I loved the ending of your video:
"A window seems to be opening for something new."
Amen
I hate to say it, but we cannot care for a 70 or 80% population of elders. Younger people will not be able to raise kids while paying like 80% in taxes.
My solution would be to let childless people on their own, and ideally take away voting power from them. Otherwise they will vote for their own interests at the cost of the dwelling younger population. Beside, childless people (like me) had time and opportunities to make and save and invest their own money instead of spending on children, so if they didn't, that should be their problem.
Society WILL have to somehow show the consequences of this. Ancient tribes knew how important fertility was because the effect was immediate, but today we pool resources and expect others to pay for it.
Spot on. Everyone thinks it won't affect them until they lay on the floor with a broken hip and no one will be there to scoop them up. Your old and immobile and now you shit your pants and it's all over your kitchen floor? Well, social services will visit you Wednesday in two weeks. Your alloted time is 8.5mins. Hope that's enough. A private contractor is available immediately but they charge you 4500 EUR. Hope you saved up, like really really saved up.
Think I'm kidding? No I'm not.
Thanks for coming to my ted talk. Good luck everyone.
While I agree with you, the problem is that only women matter to a country's birth rate. They don't even track how many children a man has- nor could they without mandatory paternity tests in a largely post marriage population.
Nations would have to end pensions completely. Elderly parents can hopefully lean on their children while the childless have to figure it out.
To expand on your voting idea... What might be better is letting caretakers of underage children vote not just for themselves but for their children too, until they reach adulthood. This would make people with children relatively a much more powerful voting block without taking anything away from anyone.
However, this might have the problem of skewing voting power more towards the "haves" of society, who already were able to start families and have children, without helping the "have-nots" to start families in the first place.
Probably unrealistic in any case but kind of fun to think about.
Your analysis is awful. Most childless people are men who were unselected. Brilliant idea taxing a rejected population of frustrated males.
I think pension system will be reworked based on number of children you have. Current Ponzi scheme-like system is unsustainable.
28:43 “People are not interested in thinking about [the demographic crash] in logical terms. They are emotionally invested in their truths.”
Yeah. That pretty much summarizes today’s society, sadly. On a whole range of issues.
You are wrong if you think "today's" society thinks differently than ANY other time in history in "logical terms". You don't know what logic is. Logic refers to whether what someone says or does is logically consistent with some general rule they said earlier. "Logical terms" does NOT mean "AGREE WITH MY POLITICAL OPINIONS"
Ah, fantastic! Damn, but you do great stuff man.
That was a well put together piece of work. The insight was eye-opening.
The more I watch your videos the more I begin to think Ceaușescu's ultra-natalist policies might have been on to something 💀
Because they were
O come on please..not him..
Wow you are really reaching with that. LOL
Hello! from Thailand, the nation that is about to vanish.😅
Too focused on ladyboys I see
Thai women are feminists?
The only thing worse than having communism was the downfall thereof.
If the peoples of Eastern Europe saw the future in 1989, I think Ceausescu would have died of natural cause.
As a sworn anti-communist, I am struggling to accept this.
Condolences, my Eastern European brothers and sisters.
Belarus is communist and its demographics are collapsing
As a sworn anti-communist, you should see that many social ills that plague eastern Europe are the long-lasting consequences of the Communist rule.
Summary:
"We are going to die "
at least we have seats in front row to watching it
I'm Chilean , and yeah , people are having less kids mostly for economic reasons , also a lot of women don't wanna have children because that could interfere with their professional careers , you rarely see big families anymore except in very rich or very poor people
after this period of decrease, a period of population increase will follow as it always has
eastern europeans are not going extinct, not anymore, and certainly a lot less than western europeans
Nope, it should have happened long ago. It did not happen and the countries seem to be drifting towards trace numbers of births.
It’s a 250 yr trend of decrease and yes it will eventually start to increase again but at what level to reach that stage?
A 90% decrease? A 95% decrease? A 99% decrease?
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Maybe not all of eastern Europe but definitely Ukraine
@@courtneykrause7035 250 yr trend of decrease? My country's population doubled after since the 1920s.
Its the other way around...only attractive rich openminded countries like the Netherlands will survive..the 'new' Netherlanders are more Dutch as they integrate then the 'old' Dutch as i, a 68 year old Amsterdammer..
We went through a slow process adapting to a multiethnic society, we see a backlash in East Europe where that process went to fast..populations will collapse there and the young will migrate to western Europe..
Not only Eastern. Western Europeans too. Dying suddenly, having turbocancers and mass infertility since 2021.
I don't know about "turbocancers" and such but 2020 was a wake up call, having faced the fragility of the economic system for the second time since 2008 in our rather short millennial lives. Starting a family in such a system is like building a house on quicksand.
@@manwiththeredface7821 then why don't you change a system?
@@manwiththeredface7821 I thought everybody knew about them. Now, millions of young people die from aggressive lethal cancers that didn't exist before 2021.
@@manwiththeredface7821 I thought everybody knew about them. Now, millions of young people get aggressive lethal cancers that didn't exist before 2021.
@@manwiththeredface7821 I thought everybody knew about them. There are millions of cases in many countries.
It’s not just Eastern Europe, nearly the entire world aside from most of Africa has seen their birth rate collapse below sustainable levels these last couple decades.
It is the same in North Africa
I'm about to have my second kid with the fist almost two years old. I'll definitely be having a third. If I hadn't left it so late, I'd have more, possibly to six would be great. But it's a problem with the age restraint (for women) and also being able to amass enough resources to support them all while you're still young enough.
Also the older generation are to blame in the West too; they are pretty selfish, they offer no help and wanna keep their money all for themselves rather than encourage procreation and make it easier for us. They are also 'individualistic' and they don't think it's their place to push their kids to have kids. Thirdly, the topic is too abstract and the effort it takes to have kids is too much they aren't interested or have no clue of the topic/issue.
i do feel a possibly small revolution is on the way though, Christianity and child-bearing seem to becoming slightly popular again, particularly on right-wing TH-cam channels - which is useful and helpful.
If christianity were becoming more popular, fertility rates would increase. But they decrease.
@@tomorrowneverdies567 The come back, if there is one, and according to what I have seen, is in its infancy, and will take a long time to show any results.
@@kel8026 I will tell you the two most important reason why I cannot believe in christianity:
1. It is metaphysical. And I cannot believe in metaphysics. Only in physics.
2. According to christianity, since every human is equal before god, you are not allowed to determine who will immigrate somewhere according to their phenotype or ethnicity.
Respect man💪
You're also probably right about religion. Even though I'm atheist, you made me consider looking into Christianity again.
@@tomorrowneverdies567im sorry but your second point is just nonsense.
Yes, all men are equal in God's eyes but that does not mean we should just let everybody cross our borders as they please. One of the core doctrines of Christianity is that there are 3 types of law. Aside from the moral and ceremonial law, there is also the judicial law which is to be obeyed by us as long as it does not lead to sin.
Through this, we reserve the right of choosing who is and who is not allowed in our countries.
Its why immigration policies exist in the first place. Countries have the right to choose who and how much they take.
Demography is destiny.
Wht people were only 7% of the words population. This manufacturing started a long time ago before any of us were born. Right now we cannot compete with the remaining 93% wanting into our homelands.
@@theragoooverlord5021white peoples were 38% in the 1920s… But before Industrial Revolution, white peoples always been an extreme minority compared to Asian. African is even worse, their population has been extremely tiny. The biggest was the population in history, the shortest and slimmest the race is because they had less space to work with like Asian. Opposite with Europeans and Africans
Putin's "little war" of colonial conquest is further speeding up this process. Ukraine was a 50 million people country in 1991, but now will have less people than Romania. This is a complete catastrophe. ( I am Polish btw)
Colonial conquest? You mean like how ukriane was bombing itself for almost a decade. Didn't care about 'colonialism' back then did you.
Less than Romania, really?
@@matthiuskoenig3378they were defending themselves against foreign funded terrorists.
Turkey also waged a war against separatists
@@gilgameschvonuruk4982 insane to see someone compare to the separatists in Donbas with the Kurds, lmao. And guess who propped up the Kurdish separatists for a long while? Turkey's ally USA
@@matthiuskoenig3378found the Putin bot.
I suggest you have a look at demographics of Kazakhstan. It is the only case I know of where the current fertility rate is higher than that of 35 years ago, even when taking into account the changed ethnic makeup. It is also the only country in the world that had a baby boom during COVID lockdown.
Interestring, Deserves a depper look
@@MrUrze Apparently, the current TFR of Russians, Germans and Koreans in Kazakhstan is near the replacement rate. Returning to the level of 1989. Thus being much higher than in their own countries. Korean population in Kazakhstan is slowly increasing, the other two have decreasing population due to older average age and emigration.
In 1990s and early 2000s there was the same fertility crash as in the rest of combloc countries. Kazakhs had TFR of 3.6 in 1989, 2.1 in 2001 and now have TFR of 4. A complete rebound has occurred.
People say that this is because half of the population died in 1930s and Kazakhs became a minority in their own country constituting only 30% of the country’s population in 1959. So having children to survive as a nation became part of their psyche.
Kazakhstan is sparsely populated so maybe the people feel like there is a need for more people ?
The country is also significantly wealthier than before.
@@BozaCukuranovic3223 It’s still rather poor. Median wage is $500 after taxes. In other countries increased “wealth” doesn’t increase fertility. If anything it usually decreases it. Just look at Saudi Arabia. They went from TFR of 7 to 2 within 40 years.
Would be very interesting an analysis on Iran, their birthrate rate is plummeting, yet they are probably one of the most conservative countries on earth currently.
Exactly. Blaming it on feminism is ridiculous.
@@kirishima638 I remember reading in academic text back in Uni about history of economics, there was a small chapter about birthrate. Essentially it blamed low birthrate on urbanisation; the more people move to the cities the less children they make. Still I think it's pretty reductive to blame it only on that but it's certainly an important factor.
@@kirishima638 I have heard that the Iranain government will prohibit any activity promoting birth control. It has also banned government health services from providing family planning services and will create a database for all of Iran's females fertility. And if I understand it right, it will punish those that do not have children to have them they might fix their birth with anti-feminist policies big W to Iran.
@@kirishima638 because feminism is one of the consequences not a sole cause
does Iranian media talk about overpopulation often ?
Call to action - everyone go to your ancestral homelands and have a big family
Isn't Africa our common ancestral homeland? It has the highest fertility.
@@Peter_739 no that's outdated soyienceTM
I don’t like my ancestral homeland and is why I want to leave it. Why would I force myself to stay in Britain when there’s so many better options?
@@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 Fair enough. But it kind-of kneecaps your ability to credibly criticise anyone else for likewise wanting to ditch their own birth country for yours, don't you think?
Nah, KB is right, most societies are destined for cultural collapse, ethnicity is no longer important. Instead find the fittest mate you can land regardless of ethnicity to give your offspring the best genes you can. If they are of a different ethnicity even better, it's a free bonus, as studies suggest that children of distantly related parents are smarter and taller than average (when controlling for parental intelligence and height).
Putting all countries east of Elbe into one cattegory doesnt make any sense bro. Cant believe that some people are still thinking in these outdated cold war schemes.. There are huge differences in GDP per capita, political alliances, culture and so much more. Catholic and protestant countries have totally different aproach to family life than orthodox countries, in this sense they have nothing in common. Some of the countries which you call eastern Europe are also quite rich, with big influx of immigrants, who feed the population with need blood, and thus the population is actually growing and far from extinction...
Dear compatriot, whenever I listen to your video, I spent the following day worrying what future expects my two teenage sons.
At least Russia can always get immigrants from Central Asia. And global warming promises to expand agricultural areas
Russia wont be Russia then it'll also diedue to immigraton if that happens.
CA is problem for Russia
It takes 20 years to make a 20 year old human. Demographics can't be changed in instant, nor you can throw money at the problem.
I see it this way, In human race there are very few real women left. All females want or pushed towards generating wealth. Running after resources and wealth is a mans trait, and since culture forcing females to pursue a mans trait has left us with very few real women.
So out of 100 people there are 10 women and 40 pseudo men and 50 men.
This model is unsustainable to say the least. I see no light at the end of the tunnel.
This, different regions will come to this phenomena at some point, the population shrinkage will eventually be a global phenomenon.
Africa will definitely be the last region to experience this. It will be a close contest between the Old Continent along with Russia and East Asia to shrink to almost extinction levels of population probably after a century if the trends continue.
This sounds very pseudo-social science-y. Like bro social science, lol. Women have always had to fight to survive and gain resources. The biggest myth people seem to believe today is that women only started working during the world wars, only entering the workforce en masse post war. The truth is, most women have always had to work, because most women have not belonged to households wealthy enough for them not to work. That's not s a new phenomenon. Women worked in textiles, in mines, they made chains, they were seamstresses, they were bakers, brewers (very traditional female job, that one), farmers... the list goes on and on.
In German there is a word it's : gesundschrumpfen - means : shrinking towards healthiness