@@philiphautzinger8365 I think now...that I was a bit premature in making such a comment, since...you are most certainly correct, and in so many, many ways, as I am quite familiar with Mahler, but again...you are most certainly correct...THANK YOU!!!!.....
Lange nicht die zweite gehört jetzt wieder auf dem Bruckner Symphonie Wanderweg von Ansfelden nach St.Florian an einem herrlichen Julitag. Station 2 2.Symphonie Hörbeispiel Adagio. So wundervoll allein in der Natur, sanfte Hügel, Kornfelder im Wind, Schmetterlinge und Sonnenschein. Ich fühlte mich wie der glücklichste Mann auf der Erde und Bruckner war mir so nah wie schon lange nicht mehr. 🙏🎼
Wunderwohl! Danke für die Mitteilung - ich kann Ihr Erlebnis nachvollziehen: vor Jahren "wanderte" ich auch durch einen Park in Bukarest, immer wieder mit Bruckner in den Ohren, in meiner Seele, und fühlte mich so wunder-wohl und wunder-voll! Danke für die Erinnerung daran 🙏 ☘️
Without Bruckner's symphonies in this world , the enjoyment and pleasures of the music world would have been less , and I would feel that the music world is like the taste of vapid beer From Tokyo of the Land of the Rising Sun 🇯🇵 I'm a Japanese Brucknerian and deeply love Debussy
I know what you mean... There was a time in my life when the Celibidache edition of Bruckner's symphonies was all that I needed on a desert island. And after many years of mainly Bach, I can still play them in my inner "concert hall". Bruckner is good company. There is light in his music. Greetings!
@@CristinaR-111 Thank-you so much to your fabulous , specutacular comments Take care of yourself I'm looking forward to your wonderful program Good luck ！ Someday please come to Japan
I am so grateful that I have known this symphony in his rendition...Had I listened it under another conductor, I would've been quite baffled by the sheer chaos that arises in other recordings at that glorious moment. It is as if the musicians were suddenly taken away their scores or left without guidance or struck with amnesia or something like that..anyway I really can't figure out what is their vision on that particular moment in the symphony.
That is my guess too. For I've got this unidentified record as a gift from a friend. I have searched for the performers and the movements' duration fits only Georg Tintner's rendition with the NSO of Ireland, with the single exception of the movements' order: in my unnamed folder this precedes the Scherzo.
The partiality to Celibidache is all too well known to me too! Unfortunately he conducted Bruckner only from the 3rd symphony up. Nonetheless there it is this wonderful rendition, almost miraculous among the others that I know! How well is that!
The melody of the 1st subject is just divine...the one it most reminds me of is Benedictus from the F minor mass. The think I love about this is that brief but ecstatic climax...it reaches this unbearable 'gasm and just vanishes. So different than what we see later on.
This is for sure the 1872 version, which is not mutilated by the cuts in the versions of 1877 and 1892, and has different climax in the last part than the other versions. Tintner's rendition is indeed the only which matches with the duration. Réginald
Then the indication here is wrong, because in 1872 this movement was in third place, but overwritten with Adagio. However, for my ears this is not only Bruckner's most beautiful slow movement, but one of the most moving pieces of music ever - but of course this is a very personal view.
That if Bruckner were anything like Mahler or Mahler like Bruckner. But they were poles apart, as human beings and musicians. Both conjoined only through their apartness from the ways of the world. There is this beautiful story about the première of Bruckner's third symphony, I think. He conducted it. The people in the audience didn't find it much to their liking so they began to leave. At the end, when Bruckner turned towards the public and saw the empty seats, started to cry. He was comforted by one of the few people who had stayed to the end. Gustav Mahler.
You are right about the no-match between Bruckner's devotion to purity and innocence and Klimt's life stance. I myself don't resonate with Klimt's art in general. But this golden apple tree is though different. And back then, when I uploaded this video, I suppose I had chosen this image for a certain glorious moment towards the end of this movement, which, according to my incomplete knowledge, is rendered here most beautifully and masterly. Therefore I shall certainly look for Eschenbach's rendition. Thank you!
Why are you so disparaging regarding Klimt? It is the type of comment on social media that tries to be provocative but is trite. Mind you your name may betray yo in any event. However, it is sad to come across such unsubstantiated ignorance particularly on a classical music forum
No one could write an adagio better than Bruckner....Thank You!....
I love every one of them. They always hit me right in the heart. They're a space of both peace and emotional outpouring.
Sure, Mahler 😉
@@philiphautzinger8365 I think now...that I was a bit premature in making such a comment, since...you are most certainly correct, and in so many, many ways, as I am quite familiar with Mahler, but again...you are most certainly correct...THANK YOU!!!!.....
e@philiphautzinger8365 not even close, bruckner towers over mahler
Not even close @@philiphautzinger8365
Lange nicht die zweite gehört jetzt wieder auf dem Bruckner Symphonie Wanderweg von Ansfelden nach St.Florian an einem herrlichen Julitag. Station 2 2.Symphonie Hörbeispiel Adagio. So wundervoll allein in der Natur, sanfte Hügel, Kornfelder im Wind, Schmetterlinge und Sonnenschein. Ich fühlte mich wie der glücklichste Mann auf der Erde und Bruckner war mir so nah wie schon lange nicht mehr. 🙏🎼
Wunderwohl! Danke für die Mitteilung - ich kann Ihr Erlebnis nachvollziehen: vor Jahren "wanderte" ich auch durch einen Park in Bukarest, immer wieder mit Bruckner in den Ohren, in meiner Seele, und fühlte mich so wunder-wohl und wunder-voll! Danke für die Erinnerung daran 🙏 ☘️
What a perfect way to experience it ... out in nature!
Best version in all its beauty
11:35 ... tears. Every time.
Epiphanic. Yes. I know.
Yes the same, it is an other mood, as if heaven opens. Greetings from the Netherlands
Without Bruckner's symphonies in this world ,
the enjoyment and pleasures of the music world would have been less ,
and I would feel that the music world is like the taste of vapid beer
From
Tokyo of the Land of the Rising Sun 🇯🇵
I'm a Japanese Brucknerian and deeply love Debussy
I know what you mean... There was a time in my life when the Celibidache edition of Bruckner's symphonies was all that I needed on a desert island. And after many years of mainly Bach, I can still play them in my inner "concert hall". Bruckner is good company. There is light in his music.
Greetings!
@@CristinaR-111
Thank-you so much to your fabulous , specutacular comments
Take care of yourself I'm looking forward to your wonderful program
Good luck ！
Someday please come to Japan
@@shin-i-chikozima Thank you! You take good care of yourself too! 🧡
@@CristinaR-111
You are welcome
Take care of yourself
Good luck ！
Hang in there ！
I am so grateful that I have known this symphony in his rendition...Had I listened it under another conductor, I would've been quite baffled by the sheer chaos that arises in other recordings at that glorious moment. It is as if the musicians were suddenly taken away their scores or left without guidance or struck with amnesia or something like that..anyway I really can't figure out what is their vision on that particular moment in the symphony.
That is my guess too. For I've got this unidentified record as a gift from a friend. I have searched for the performers and the movements' duration fits only Georg Tintner's rendition with the NSO of Ireland, with the single exception of the movements' order: in my unnamed folder this precedes the Scherzo.
The partiality to Celibidache is all too well known to me too! Unfortunately he conducted Bruckner only from the 3rd symphony up. Nonetheless there it is this wonderful rendition, almost miraculous among the others that I know! How well is that!
This is the original version of 1872 of this beautiful Adagio. I guess by Georg Tintner. Réginald
Reminds me of Bruckner 6 adagio. Peerless and magical.
The melody of the 1st subject is just divine...the one it most reminds me of is Benedictus from the F minor mass. The think I love about this is that brief but ecstatic climax...it reaches this unbearable 'gasm and just vanishes. So different than what we see later on.
This is for sure the 1872 version, which is not mutilated by the cuts in the versions of 1877 and 1892, and has different climax in the last part than the other versions. Tintner's rendition is indeed the only which matches with the duration. Réginald
Then the indication here is wrong, because in 1872 this movement was in third place, but overwritten with Adagio. However, for my ears this is not only Bruckner's most beautiful slow movement, but one of the most moving pieces of music ever - but of course this is a very personal view.
Danke, Herr Wangenheim
Bin dank Herrn Wangenheim auch hier gelandet😊
Wonderful
bruckner the Big master
14:40 Benedictus 🙏
splendid
...to sum up all that this hymn evokes and inspires. At the end, one draws three breaths with the orchestra and goes in peace.
Wonderful. Almost as good as Mahler.
That if Bruckner were anything like Mahler or Mahler like Bruckner. But they were poles apart, as human beings and musicians. Both conjoined only through their apartness from the ways of the world. There is this beautiful story about the première of Bruckner's third symphony, I think. He conducted it. The people in the audience didn't find it much to their liking so they began to leave. At the end, when Bruckner turned towards the public and saw the empty seats, started to cry. He was comforted by one of the few people who had stayed to the end. Gustav Mahler.
The tempo is too quick. Eschenbach is best. Shame you coupled this masterful piece of music with the trash that is Klimt.
You are right about the no-match between Bruckner's devotion to purity and innocence and Klimt's life stance. I myself don't resonate with Klimt's art in general. But this golden apple tree is though different. And back then, when I uploaded this video, I suppose I had chosen this image for a certain glorious moment towards the end of this movement, which, according to my incomplete knowledge, is rendered here most beautifully and masterly. Therefore I shall certainly look for Eschenbach's rendition. Thank you!
@@CristinaR-111 Purity is the concentrated expression of the European man's Promethean will. Musically, Bruckner and Wagner reproduced this best.
Why are you so disparaging regarding Klimt? It is the type of comment on social media that tries to be provocative but is trite. Mind you your name may betray yo in any event. However, it is sad to come across such unsubstantiated ignorance particularly on a classical music forum
I personally like the paintings of Casper David Frederick.