Before the High Power was the FN Grand Rendement

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    The Browning High Power story begins with a French 1921 request for a new military pistol. FN engineer Dieudonné Saive developed a double stack, single feed magazine and John Browning adapted a Browning 1903 pistol to use it, and this was sent to France for consideration. This pistol worked well enough, but the French trials board requested changes...and they would continue requesting changes and more trials for the next decade.
    By 1931, FN felt that the current iteration of the pistol - while still not meeting all the French requirements - was good enough to stand on its own as a service pistol for the Belgian Army and other clients. They named it the "Grand Rendement" (High Efficiency) and began marketing it. The Belgian Army showed a definite interest, and bought 1,000 pistols for field trials, based on the prototype example we have in today's video. These would become the Grande Puissance, aka the High Power.
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  • @Matt-xc6sp
    @Matt-xc6sp ปีที่แล้ว +71

    So early John Browning is still working for Winchester

  • @TorquilBletchleySmythe
    @TorquilBletchleySmythe ปีที่แล้ว +273

    I really enjoy it when we get a true Forgotten Weapon, one only a handful of people have ever seen or held. Thanks again for great content

  • @thegraytemplar2548
    @thegraytemplar2548 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Reading and hearing from you about the French interwar handgun trials shows that the French army likely never heard of the phrase “don’t let Perfect be the enemy of Good”

  • @ningayeti
    @ningayeti ปีที่แล้ว +253

    Has anyone ever made a mag release where a soft press allows the mag to be partially ejected from the gun so as to protect it from hitting the ground and where a hard press forcefully ejects the mag for an emergency reload?

  • @jamesfairmind2247
    @jamesfairmind2247 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    The greatest historical tragedy is that JMB could not use the stirrup trigger in the Browning HP because the patent ran for another 2 years and the French could not wait. Just imagine if we could have had that ! We know it would have worked because of the Para Ordnance P 14 and other double stack 1911's. A 1911 trigger in this beautiful 9mm! What a dream gun that would have been!

  • @jayfrank1913
    @jayfrank1913 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rendement: Don't pronounce the middle e. It's silent. It does indicate that you pronounce the d harder instead of swallowing it. Signed, The TERMinator. I'll be back.

  • @vaevictis2789
    @vaevictis2789 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Funny how this pattern design looks more modern than actual HP design

  • @antoniocuba1970
    @antoniocuba1970 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Regarding the Peruvian delegation looking to buy GP-35s from FN, they must have bought some before WWII since the guns are showed in pics in the hands of their troops during the 1941 war against Ecuador.

  • @1959Berre
    @1959Berre ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Hi Ian. The name "SAIVE" is pronounced "SA-VE" . (Like "safe", but with a V instead of an F") Greetings from Belgium.

  • @DustyGamma
    @DustyGamma ปีที่แล้ว

    Fun fact: If you take a shot every time Ian says Grand Rendement, you may suffer liver failure.

  • @nicolaspeigne1429
    @nicolaspeigne1429 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    The french army like to keep their magazines for decades.

  • @chrism3872
    @chrism3872 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    One of the favorite pistols that I own is a Browning Hi-Power that I obtained in VN during my tour with USSF there. I brought it back as a "war souvenir" which I could do because it was not made in the US. A curious rule, but that is the way it was. I still enjoy shooting it. I had another one that I had purchased before I went to VN which was very close in serial # to the one I brought back. I eventually sold the one I had bought earlier, as I had a friend who wanted it and I did not need two examples that were the same design. I sometimes carried the Hi-Power in VN in lieu of my issued 1911A1.

  • @fratercontenduntocculta8161
    @fratercontenduntocculta8161 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    The one pistol on my surplus wish list right now. I have several friends who own HP's or clones who tell me endlessly about how much they love having theirs.

  • @joshuarebennack68
    @joshuarebennack68 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    "Let's go back to the beginning of the story..." My favorite thing for Ian to say.

  • @cameronmccreary4758
    @cameronmccreary4758 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I remember at a Los Angeles gunshow in the 1970s seeing one of these pistols. The workmanship was impeccable. I was able to look at it and it would have been great to have this model rather than the later version. The Los Angeles gunshows had all kinds of rare firearms back then.

  • @richardlahan7068
    @richardlahan7068 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    My dad has Belgian Browning High Power. Great classic gun.

  • @zbyszanna
    @zbyszanna ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Browning HP is one of the coolest guns ever.

  • @russbetts1467
    @russbetts1467 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    As ever, Ian, a brilliant presentation of facts about my favourite pistol. Thank you. Must buy myself a copy of the new expanded 3rd Edition of the FN Browning Pistols.

  • @aphale
    @aphale ปีที่แล้ว +20

    What an amazing gun. I own an Argentinian Clone (previously licensed) FM M95 (Fabricaciones Militares Modelo 95) and is an absolute delight to shoot with.

  • @patrickgidusko281
    @patrickgidusko281 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My god, Fireplace guy has impeccable taste in firearms.