Personally I think the whole reason why pirates of the caribbean actually worked out so amazingly as it did is because of Johnny Depp's weird take on how a pirate is supposed to be and look like. It took the movie from being a regular pirate movie we've seen a million times to something new and interesting.
Ironically entire cast and crew at the set laughed their ass off looking at his take on Jack Sparrow as weird and embarrassing. There was this one producer who trusted in Johnny Depp and let him do it his style
bar10dr You're right......unfortunately, Depp has gone as psycho-nuts as Michael Jackson and is now eclipsing MJ's insanity by a long shot(without the child molesting thing- thank God!).
A million times? Lol not tryin to hate i just can't think of any pirate movies exept treasure island and the fuckin peter pan movies without looking any up
Didn't that happen with Full Monty? They fired the director and hired someone else who turned it into something good (presumably, since I haven't seen it)
@Tantan Hiyan Um, you need to learn what the definition of "flop" is. Justice League made plenty at the box office. It wasn't a flop. It was just a terrible movie.
Missing The Godfather in this list, even Coppola and Pacino where afraid of being fired, and Paramount cutted the budget and even reduced de filming days to a minimum xD
All my friends were convinced Guardians of the Galaxy was going to be a lame movie, those same friends thought Batman v. Superman was going to be amazing. It was the most satisfying, "I told you so" ever.
Aside from the hopelessly generic plot and forgettable villian, guardians of the galaxie 1 was wayyy better than I thought it was going to be. I was so surprised by how likeable and funny all the main characters were
tbf gotg is not that good of a film in the marvel lore because the high standards marvel already set. but... marvel always being on point when they choose actors and build up almost every character for their universe... they even build quite strong personality character with a very little time such as thanos who only have this one significant movie to show how much important of a villain he is. all we've ever heard about thanos before the movie are just one little sneak peak from the avengers 1 movie and few mentions in the other movie. Back to gotg, gotg 2 are literally one of the best movie from this universe for me, behind civil war and ragnarok... the character they already build makes me really into this movie and gotg 2 significantly increase the quality of the storyline... yondu death are totally heartwrenching that my girl friend crying for so long lol he even say that all the romance movie he ever cried for are nothing compared to this
it honestly confuses me why so many people thought GotG would fail because they were a bunch of weird nobodies that no one knew about. Iron Man was also a nobody untill his movie success. Hell he was ON the GotG at one point
Tebitots but who would have thought an aging actor would turn into an action super star? Taken trilogy, unknown, non-stop and even the last movie was a box office hit
Taken is a good lesson for writers: if a simple story isn't compelling (just a father, his daughter, and some bad guys), then complex plots and dazzling special effects won't make the film a success.
In my film class my professor said there really two types of movies that work and will make money, it's either a complex plot complex situations with simple character involved or a really complex character in a simple story. Taken is the later, put a complex guy, a dad with a secretive past, a complex CIA background , in a simple situation a simple plot, save your daughter, and beat everyone up, and it will work, and yes John wick is similar John had a complicated past who was his wife, how many people had he killed, and now he has a simple quest kill those who killed his dog
Lucky for Arnie himself too. That movie transformed his image from another "meatbag" to "badass." Without it he would likely have had the same career path as someone like Dolph Lundgren.
Insanely Successful movies that someone had some doubts about... Only a few on the lists were thought to be flops when released. Most were just question marks.
pienbikkel Ryan Reynolds was so committed because he was a nobody who had huge flops after huge flops and the only hit movies he had ever been in were a hit because of the female actors and not him. If he was a woman and not a white guy, he'd have been sent to the trash a decade ago. So of course he was committed. Deadpool was the last bet even for big studios on Ryan Reynolds.
I remember one review that said "The title character in The Terminator walks like the rear end of a rhinoceros and speaks in a monotone. In other words, it's the role Arnold Scwarzenegger was born to play." :-D
goodial Agreed, these days I look at the audience reaction more than the critics. I go out to movies to have a good time, it's the critics job to critique, their opinion doesn't help me most of the time.
ROMVS my statement doesn't mean that I consider it to be a good movie ;) I understand its success, but the story was rather bad imo ... I gerenally look at critics because I often can agree (doesn't mean that this isn't always the case, I really disliked Inisde Llewyn Davis), but I try to not just look at one. I like Rotten Tomatoes for the collection of opinions and the short statements it offers (it's a great website if one doesn't just look at the score), but I also look at different reviews and TH-cam and so on. But it's good that you found the ones that resonate with your opinions and help you navigate through the sea of movies that we get.
Shaurya Singh iron man. nah easy money.. no way it was going to ve a flop. the 2nd ehhh was almost as good. 3rd one. confused as it didn't seem to gel as well.
@@garystinten9339 Easy Money? You do realise this was the make or break for the MCU. And they started with one B grade character who had almost no previous movies to his name. Also they were casting an ex drug addict RDJ and this was a huge huge gamble.
I totally agree. I remember seeing the trailer and thought wtf?!! Who the hell is Iron Man? I never saw it in theaters but my parents convinced me to watch it. What an incredible introduction (for me) into the MCU universe. I am a die hard fan for life
@@shreyaskhatri5109 It wasn't the make or break for the MCU. The shared universe idea was only a small pipe dream at the time rather than something which was seriously at stake. It was make or break for Marvel as a company though. For the reasons you mentioned and that Marvel was broke at the time with all their other characters licensed to other companies for the big screen
What about "Die Hard"? This is a Christmas movie classic that was released in the middle of summer in 1988. It starred a TV actor that has poster omitting his face. The studio reinserted Bruce Willis's head & face much later on.
The film “MASH“ Was totally made in the editing room. Actor Donald Sutherland was convinced it was a horrible movie and it could never succeed. But director Robert Altman and editor Danford Greene transformed the scrapheap into a work of art.
the first taken is the one of the best action movie of all time. The simplicity of the plot, the multiple villains who deserve no mercy and the thoughtful and intellingent build up of the characters before the action starts. It should be the template for all action movies. The sequels however were utterly dissapointing.
Hahahaha hell no they weren’t. Taken 2 is the most successful one and he daughter this time has more to do. And the total plots switch of the third one is intense so gfys
Given that the stepfather is the one who has the wife murdered is what fucks up the 3rd movie. That was just a completely stupid and unbelievable plot “twist”… probably because Famke wanted out
timothyfloogle... which is why I said "it kind of did." By the way, are you seeing Wesley Snipes' career take off the way Rdj's did? He's been out for a while, now.
I get why they chose Guardians. They were way more unknown when the movie came out than Iron Man was for his. Iron Man was C list, but most Marvel readers knew him. Even Marvel readers barely knew GofG. They only had a few short title runs in the years prior. Usually as part of a larger event.
jonny depps acting was completly new for a pirate charackter=more interesting and the music was awesome as fuck, its like with lord of the rings, the right music in the right scenes with the right atmosphere = amazing movie
Monkey.D Anis no not really. Have you ever seen blackbirds ghost? Peter Ustinov is playing a very nice but drunk pirate who does selfish things but in the end comes through doing the right thing.
I'd put Zootopia up there too. It was released in early March, when Disney apparently thought no one would care about it, all while waiting for Moana to come out around Oscar season so it could be a smash hit. And guess which one of those ended up grossing a billion dollars at the box office?
Just imagine how many great movies we didn't get because of peoples personal opinions. If they got these so wrong, there are a lot more they did get wrong that didn't get the chance to see the light of day.
I remember in a post-Avengers world, everyone is having that Marvel fever. I was at a gathering with my friends and family and the trailer for 'Guardians of the Galaxy' popped up on the telly. My cousins and friends kinda cheered but I was unsatisfied and I remarked that it would be a mistake -- I was certain it would be Marvel's first flop. Now, it's safe to say that both of theirs films are my favorite in the MCU. Also, it wasn't Star-Lord's fault.
Marvel had a flop long before that. The Incredible Hulk was a complete failure. It bombed at the box office. It only made 263 million worldwide on a budget of 150 million.
The new jumanji movie? A comedy sequel/reboot of a 90s family film starring Kevin Hart and the rock was doomed to fail but wasn’t it like one of the biggest movies at the box office in 2017?
"Liam Neeson was known mostly for serious dramatic pieces, and a Star Wars film." Ahem. Krull High Spirits Love Actually Darkman Rob Roy Next of Kin Excalibur The prosecution rests.
Simon Maguire No he would make movies that were supposed to be flops to get tax breaks for German studios. Read or listen to some interviews with him. He readily admits it.
Jeff Daniels thought Speed was a crummy, run of the mill action film that wouldn't do anything at the box office. Instead, it became a smash hit. I've heard interviews from a lot of actors who say they often have no clue if a film will be good or bad when released because so much of it is made in the edit. Star Wars with bad editing and cheesy 70s effects and sounds would have been awful. Instead, it's the classic it became. The prequels, with better edting, would be so much better.
I rememeber all the reports about Pirates while they were filming. Everyone said Johnny Depp has lost his marbles he's playing a gayish pirate how dumb noone cares about pirate movies anymore
Arnold was also reluctant to act in the film, because he had to play the bad guy, which usually would end up being a typecasting dead end for actor's career. He wanted to play the Kyle Reese role if I recall correctly. So James Cameron had to do some convincing. He also hated the "'I'll be back" scene, because he thought it was goofy, and he didn't like how it sounded preferring "I will be back." instead. Glad he listened.
Christopher McDonald I’m pretty sure that’s what he said in his Total Recall book. He didn’t want to get type casted as the bad guy going in the future. Arnold said he wanted to be a movie star, and playing a bad usually was a dead end. So he was really cautious because of this. He was getting offered to play the muscle, the bad guy, but he wanted main, lead character roles, or at least portray the good guy. Terminator on paper was opposite to that. But funny thing what happened was that he started giving Cameron tips. Arnold was in the military and his weightlifting career, aspirations to achieve success by any means necessary made himself into a bit of a machine, so he could really empathize with this robot character. How everything should be done automatic. Like assembling and de-assembling a gun, I think he gave an example. How it’s a killing machine. So I think that part turned him over, he thought he could do a really good job playing that. There was obviously more to this but I can’t remember it all. I’ve read the book some years ago, but that’s what I remember him saying.
1. "The Terminator": "Oil be back many times in the future." 2. "The Full Monty": "Why should only buff men be objectified by women?" 3. "It": "You will all FLOAT, straight into box office history!" 4. "Pirates of the Caribbean": "Everyone will have 'Capt. Jack Sparrow' on their lips!" 5. "Guardians of the Galaxy": "A trash-talking Raccoon!? Are you joking?" 6. "Taken": "Movies about a kidnapping aren't even on the radar." 7. "Animal House": "College fraternity movies aren't funny." 8. "Star Wars": "Knights in outer space!? That's not even a concept."
I think a lot of these movies were good because of the actors themselves If we didn’t have those specific actors and the way they portrayed their charters the movies wouldn’t have been so memerable
the first Pirates was effing amazing. the sequels were good but didn't compare to the first. it's very lame though to hear actors say how "fucking crap" the movie that's paying them and that they accepted to work on
Who would bet against the Marvel Avenger's universe? We're all Pavlov's dogs on THAT franchise;) Can't wait for the THREE AND A HALF HOUR version of Endgame to come out: eat salty snacks so you retain water! Just sayin...;)
I rmb I was going to see Matrix 3 with my parents, but then at the ticket booth I was wtf is this Pirates of the Caribbean, sounds cool, so I convinced my parents to see that instead...... best fucking decision in my life as I would later recall the incidence by
Taken also took me by surprise. I had always associated Liam Neeson with Rob Roy since that was the first I movie I saw him in. Now, whenever I see Liam Neeson, I automatically think of Taken.
@@laustcawz2089 Yeah, I saw darkman when I was a kid and I thought back then that it was just a generic super hero movie just like the others at that time. Re watching it years later and I could see Liam's action star potential, it took a couple of years and a single movie to totally bring it out.
@@deception1845 I never saw it as generic & I don't know what other superhero movies you mean. If you mean "Batman", well, I was underwhelmed, though "Batman Returns" was a little better. Anyhow, I like "Taken", but I'm even more impressed with "Taken 2". Never got into the "Darkman" sequels, though.
Why do people keep saying “Marvel’s First Flop”? They already had a flop. The Incredible Hulk was a box office BOMB. It made only 263 million worldwide on a budget of 150 million. Complete failure of a film. Not to mention the first Captain America didn’t even make 375 million. Not a flop but not really a big success either.
One i couldnt believe wasnt here is Titanic. A 3hr epic that went 125% overbudget, costing $200m when only one film had cost over $120m before (Waterworld - $172m). Everyone said it would bomb, and it was the biggest box office hit ever.
George Lucas would have made his money back, by making a similar bet with 20th Century Fox, when he demanded 100% of the SW merchandising rights, and was given it, as the studio thought it would not do that well. Lucas made millions on every SW bit of merchandise for decades after that (I made him rich on buying all the SW action figures).
Pirates of the Caribbean was going to be a flop? bollocks...a film is going to be a flop when you hire actors who charge over $10m a film? and the film is over $100m? .......I dont know why they are saying this but that film wasn't made to be anything but a big hit.
I think part of the reason Star Wars was so big is that most folks never paid any attention to 2001 ASO, or had even seen the movie, as it had not really been a Blockbuster. The Special Effects in Star Wars were not a big leap, and in fact in many ways were actually worse. Star Wars awed the audience with pretty good SEs, but the story was incredible and easy to understand. Magic, but the lack of audience respect/perspective for previous movies was part of the magic too.
Biggest thrash is the stupid overly childish dumb Guardians of The Galaxy, that's proof that Disney can put whatever thrash out aslong as it's apart of the MCU it'll be popular and financially successful
I think with that one it wasnt predicted to flop, just not be a worldwide smash like it was. With a small budget (about $4m) and lots of well known British names including its writer, it wouldve likely broke even just in the UK.
In 1977, 20th Century Fox released 2 science fiction movies: “Star Wars” and “Damnation Alley”, Guess which one the studio thought would be the bigger hit. Here we are, 40 years later and I’ll bet most of you have never heard of “Damnation Alley”
debbie peter I didn't say it was anything ground-breaking, just that it was a lot better than everyone expected, given the track record of most remakes/soft reboots
Now I know why he made fun of Sylvester Stallone when Arnold Schwarzenegger was interviewed on Jimmy Kimmel. He told Jimmy Kimmel that when he was first starting out in his career as an actor that he was offered to do some crappy movie, Scorpion he tricked Stallone into doing the movie telling him it was a great movie but he was too busy at the time. Stallon ending up doing the movie but it didn't do well.
What other expected flops should've made this list?
Looper make the opposite of movies that were supposed to be successful but were flops
deadpool, john wick, black panther, skyfall,...
Nzigamasabo Alex yeah John Wick is badass,,
Iron Man
Mean Girls
Personally I think the whole reason why pirates of the caribbean actually worked out so amazingly as it did is because of Johnny Depp's weird take on how a pirate is supposed to be and look like. It took the movie from being a regular pirate movie we've seen a million times to something new and interesting.
So true. Johnny Depp said, "Pirate? Hold my beer." And then the rest of the cast said, "Well, now we have to keep up with him."
Ironically entire cast and crew at the set laughed their ass off looking at his take on Jack Sparrow as weird and embarrassing.
There was this one producer who trusted in Johnny Depp and let him do it his style
bar10dr You're right......unfortunately, Depp has gone as psycho-nuts as Michael Jackson and is now eclipsing MJ's insanity by a long shot(without the child molesting thing- thank God!).
yeh then they went too far with it as usual for all the sequals
A million times? Lol not tryin to hate i just can't think of any pirate movies exept treasure island and the fuckin peter pan movies without looking any up
Please do a "# movies saved by studio interference", because every time I saw that the studio took control, the movie flopped.
Didn't that happen with Full Monty? They fired the director and hired someone else who turned it into something good (presumably, since I haven't seen it)
Yes it was, but it can not be the only one...
The Godfather , the green miles
Justice League flopped because of WB interference
@Tantan Hiyan Um, you need to learn what the definition of "flop" is. Justice League made plenty at the box office. It wasn't a flop. It was just a terrible movie.
Missing The Godfather in this list, even Coppola and Pacino where afraid of being fired, and Paramount cutted the budget and even reduced de filming days to a minimum xD
Taken has always been my fav!
I cannot believe that you missed out Jaws!!!!!
Poor old Donnie.....14 MILLION my man!! Well Done! (Not).
This video and its comment section are awesome!
Iron Man
The one that started it all
Tom Cruise was gonna be iron man.
He is a good second bet for the role but thank god for Robert Downey :)
Super Vegito man tell me about it
Gonk he looks just like him in the comics
Sathu 115 Exactly. You would swear that the comic version was made to look like Robert Downey jr lol
All my friends were convinced Guardians of the Galaxy was going to be a lame movie, those same friends thought Batman v. Superman was going to be amazing. It was the most satisfying, "I told you so" ever.
ARC-77 Fordo I’ll personally watch BvS over GOTG any day but i enjoy them both
Mike De Guzman lmao so true. guardians turns out wayyyy better than i thought it would be!
Aside from the hopelessly generic plot and forgettable villian, guardians of the galaxie 1 was wayyy better than I thought it was going to be. I was so surprised by how likeable and funny all the main characters were
tbf gotg is not that good of a film in the marvel lore because the high standards marvel already set. but... marvel always being on point when they choose actors and build up almost every character for their universe... they even build quite strong personality character with a very little time such as thanos who only have this one significant movie to show how much important of a villain he is. all we've ever heard about thanos before the movie are just one little sneak peak from the avengers 1 movie and few mentions in the other movie.
Back to gotg, gotg 2 are literally one of the best movie from this universe for me, behind civil war and ragnarok... the character they already build makes me really into this movie and gotg 2 significantly increase the quality of the storyline... yondu death are totally heartwrenching that my girl friend crying for so long lol he even say that all the romance movie he ever cried for are nothing compared to this
it honestly confuses me why so many people thought GotG would fail because they were a bunch of weird nobodies that no one knew about.
Iron Man was also a nobody untill his movie success. Hell he was ON the GotG at one point
Liam Neeson was Batman's teacher... that was enough to cement him as an action star...
Tebitots but who would have thought an aging actor would turn into an action super star? Taken trilogy, unknown, non-stop and even the last movie was a box office hit
And Darkman.
Raymond Davis
But Darkman really didn't do anything for Neeson's career, seems everybody overlooked it (but I think it was pretty good regardless).
And Obi-Wans
@@uhtijmai Neeson just has an Action Stars voice paired with an acceptable appearance
Taken is a good lesson for writers: if a simple story isn't compelling (just a father, his daughter, and some bad guys), then complex plots and dazzling special effects won't make the film a success.
There are a number of films that are simple plots that are just well put together and they tend to be successful.
Another is John Wick. Though that is more about the action and less about the story. In any event, Taken 1 was a masterpiece.
@Tom Cat not as successful but not hated.
In my film class my professor said there really two types of movies that work and will make money, it's either a complex plot complex situations with simple character involved or a really complex character in a simple story. Taken is the later, put a complex guy, a dad with a secretive past, a complex CIA background , in a simple situation a simple plot, save your daughter, and beat everyone up, and it will work, and yes John wick is similar John had a complicated past who was his wife, how many people had he killed, and now he has a simple quest kill those who killed his dog
Now i feel like watching taken 1 again hehe
thankgod Arnold made the right call otherwise we wouldnt have got those 2 mazing movies.
its crazy most of these movies I love might not have existed.
Rock Universe Gaming yeah dude terminator 2 is the best movie of all time
Lucky for Arnie himself too. That movie transformed his image from another "meatbag" to "badass." Without it he would likely have had the same career path as someone like Dolph Lundgren.
I totally agree, its one of my favorites movies ever! (man i should watch it right now)
Don't you mean 5
Liam Neeson is like Charles Bronson for our generation, THE BADASS GRANDPA
You mean Bruce Willis. Haven't you seen the new Death wish movie?
Bronson was the man. I know nothing of Bruce's ego. But I did enjoy the Death wish reboot.
EURIPODES , Bruce Willis and Edward Norton are known to have massive egos.
that's an awesome idea
I didn't like the taken movie . . . and I don't think that's a good comparison :)
The title of the video should be "Insanely Successful Movies That Were THOUGHT To Be Flops"
Welcome to Looper
Insanely Successful movies that someone had some doubts about... Only a few on the lists were thought to be flops when released. Most were just question marks.
@@Paulafan5 yup these were all good movies, saw them all and they were all good !! 👍
Where is dead pool film fox didn't wanted to make the film but after the request of ryan Reynolds fox agreed with small 58 million budget
Subhom Das best part is Ryan Reynolds was so committed he paid for a part of the movie and he leaked the trailer to show there were fans for it.
Deadpool had a lot more concerns than Guardians did. An r-rated Marvel film scared them, even though Blade spawned a trilogy of films.
How many times has FOX got it wrong? Answer is Lots.
i'm not a huge comic book movie fan but he was fantastic.
pienbikkel Ryan Reynolds was so committed because he was a nobody who had huge flops after huge flops and the only hit movies he had ever been in were a hit because of the female actors and not him. If he was a woman and not a white guy, he'd have been sent to the trash a decade ago. So of course he was committed. Deadpool was the last bet even for big studios on Ryan Reynolds.
Steven Spielberg was awesome, he managed to see something that even the creator couldn't see and struck a great deal!
It's also worth mentioning that Taken got released in US cinemas on the Super Bowl weekend. That is usually a graveyard weekend for cinemas.
Agree...Actor Liam Neeson got a simple script and hit a homerun with a fantastic performance!
For pirates one has to give huge credit to depp. He was simply brilliant and may b oscar worthy.
I remember one review that said "The title character in The Terminator walks like the rear end of a rhinoceros and speaks in a monotone. In other words, it's the role Arnold Scwarzenegger was born to play." :-D
I don't think people expected The Greatest Showman to be that successful, especially after the critical reception ...
Was it successful? I remember seeing ad's for it then it was at Redbox. I don't recall it actually showing in theaters.
430 million is quite a success story ...
Andy Mann Played for several months in theaters.
goodial Agreed, these days I look at the audience reaction more than the critics. I go out to movies to have a good time, it's the critics job to critique, their opinion doesn't help me most of the time.
ROMVS my statement doesn't mean that I consider it to be a good movie ;) I understand its success, but the story was rather bad imo ... I gerenally look at critics because I often can agree (doesn't mean that this isn't always the case, I really disliked Inisde Llewyn Davis), but I try to not just look at one. I like Rotten Tomatoes for the collection of opinions and the short statements it offers (it's a great website if one doesn't just look at the score), but I also look at different reviews and TH-cam and so on. But it's good that you found the ones that resonate with your opinions and help you navigate through the sea of movies that we get.
GotG had a lot of personality to balance the lore. It was everything Valerian wished it was. lol
It was almost definitely going to be a smash hit. Not a worthy inclusion at all.
Iron Man on the other hand. *That* was a true cinematic gamble.
Shaurya Singh iron man. nah easy money.. no way it was going to ve a flop.
the 2nd ehhh was almost as good.
3rd one. confused as it didn't seem to gel as well.
@@garystinten9339 Words cant explain how much I hate this comment
@@garystinten9339 Easy Money?
You do realise this was the make or break for the MCU. And they started with one B grade character who had almost no previous movies to his name. Also they were casting an ex drug addict RDJ and this was a huge huge gamble.
I totally agree. I remember seeing the trailer and thought wtf?!! Who the hell is Iron Man? I never saw it in theaters but my parents convinced me to watch it. What an incredible introduction (for me) into the MCU universe. I am a die hard fan for life
@@shreyaskhatri5109 It wasn't the make or break for the MCU. The shared universe idea was only a small pipe dream at the time rather than something which was seriously at stake.
It was make or break for Marvel as a company though. For the reasons you mentioned and that Marvel was broke at the time with all their other characters licensed to other companies for the big screen
star lord is our generation's han solo
Han Solo laughs at you.
maybe! iconic stars today are not the iconic stars from the 70s & 80s. they were just on a whole 'nother level.
Hell nah
MichaelNicle not even close
Han Solo is dead so gtf over it lol
What about "Die Hard"? This is a Christmas movie classic that was released in the middle of summer in 1988. It starred a TV actor that has poster omitting his face. The studio reinserted Bruce Willis's head & face much later on.
You don't make movies with a talking tree... Chris Pratt must've never seen LOTR
my gosh i laughed too much for this comment.
He clearly doesn't watch sci-fi or fantasy films.
Or The Wizard of Oz, truth is Talking Tree = Classic!
I remember going to see Terminator with zero expectations. I walked out of the theatre blown away by one of the best sci-fi movies ever.
It's difficult to contemplate that just editing alone can make the difference between direct to video and Oscar winner/nominee
then watch the documentaries about how star wars was literally made in the editing room
it is that important
From literal visuals to subconscious implications. Editing can extract emotions from the audience just as much as an actor can.
I hated One Hour Photo when I first saw it but I read that the directors cut was good.
I watched it and agreed.
The film “MASH“ Was totally made in the editing room. Actor Donald Sutherland was convinced it was a horrible movie and it could never succeed. But director Robert Altman and editor Danford Greene transformed the scrapheap into a work of art.
Ask a film editor or watch All That Jazz. Timing of cuts as well as ordering of shots can make all the difference in the world.
Liam Neeson was the main character in Darkman
Which was sci-fi/ action
And a very underrated movie
"You don't make a movie with a talking tree"
Tell that to the most critically acclaimed and successful fantasy epic, Lord of the Rings.
They also had Talking Trees in the Wizard of Oz.
Yeah add on to the fact that the tree has entirely one dialogue for all his movies 🤪🤪🤪
Well chris kind of look down on how the movie will be.
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Which?
@fnj9fjrjgf3 njdksnferogh
All movies are absolute garbage?
You're a fun person.
I didn't believe that Guardians of the galaxy was supposed to flop its my favorite movie in the mcu
omar ayman a lot of people thought it would flop, look at where it is now
Its my least favourite
my dad wanted to take me to see Lucy over Guardians, lucky I convinced him to watch guardians and we all loved it! (:
d a n c e o f f b r o , y o u a n d m e
*oh child plays in the background*
And in an alternate universe, the challenge was accepted!
the first taken is the one of the best action movie of all time. The simplicity of the plot, the multiple villains who deserve no mercy and the thoughtful and intellingent build up of the characters before the action starts. It should be the template for all action movies. The sequels however were utterly dissapointing.
I watched it 3 times.
Hahahaha hell no they weren’t. Taken 2 is the most successful one and he daughter this time has more to do. And the total plots switch of the third one is intense so gfys
taken 2 is good
i thougt it was great even the third movir
Given that the stepfather is the one who has the wife murdered is what fucks up the 3rd movie. That was just a completely stupid and unbelievable plot “twist”… probably because Famke wanted out
Wesley Snipes said he was advised not to take the part of Blade as it would finish his career.
394pjo it kind of did. Since he never paid the taxes on the money he made from the Blade movies, he went to jail and his career hit the toilet.
Rick Merring just because he went to prison doesn't mean his career is over. look at RDJ
timothyfloogle... which is why I said "it kind of did." By the way, are you seeing Wesley Snipes' career take off the way Rdj's did? He's been out for a while, now.
@blkpplcantberacist chinksaintsmart wah wah racist bullshit
wait Wesley Snipes had a career??
It seems like I remember Titanic's production cost kept going up and up and up and no one thought it could ever recoup. Wrong!
IT was already done as a successful tv mini-series in the '90s. Hardly a risky bet to remake it.
and it was pretty average. Original that is
@@andrewdavidson6495 part 1 was excellent, part 2 less so.
he said it was going "too good" - worried more about being jinxed. Also I would be concerned also about remaking a cult classic, that alone is risky.
Where the hell is Iron Man?
wait what? i did not know that
I get why they chose Guardians. They were way more unknown when the movie came out than Iron Man was for his. Iron Man was C list, but most Marvel readers knew him. Even Marvel readers barely knew GofG. They only had a few short title runs in the years prior. Usually as part of a larger event.
guardians where not popular in the comics like iron man but the MCU thankfully makes them popular (:
No lie i thought the iron man movies were boring
I'll do one better. Who the hell is Iron Man?
jonny depps acting was completly new for a pirate charackter=more interesting
and the music was awesome as fuck, its like with lord of the rings, the right music in the right scenes with the right atmosphere = amazing movie
Monkey.D Anis no not really. Have you ever seen blackbirds ghost? Peter Ustinov is playing a very nice but drunk pirate who does selfish things but in the end comes through doing the right thing.
the music was often loud an repetitive in the crap sequels
U forgot about Rocky and Iron man!!!!!!!!
I enjoyed Full Monty so much I even went to see the stage version years later!!
Liam Neeson had a great career before Star Wars as well.
He'd already been the star
of an action film--"Darkman".
I'd put Zootopia up there too. It was released in early March, when Disney apparently thought no one would care about it, all while waiting for Moana to come out around Oscar season so it could be a smash hit. And guess which one of those ended up grossing a billion dollars at the box office?
Just imagine how many great movies we didn't get because of peoples personal opinions. If they got these so wrong, there are a lot more they did get wrong that didn't get the chance to see the light of day.
Yeah those guys after being stuck in their bubble can be very clueless sometimes.
The problem with Pirates of the Caribbean success is it was a great movie that spawned a terrible series of follow up films.
Moral lesson, never bet on something you're sure is gonna fail. Loki's lurking in the corner to ensure it doesn't
And Johnny Depp thought that The Lone Ranger was going to be great. Maybe these people are just too close.
Terminator or Pirates worked so well because of their main actor.
Guardians wasn't the end of his career, infinity was. HOW COULD YOU DO THAT QUILL!!
Hey, I liked Liam in Excalibur also.
Krull
I remember in a post-Avengers world, everyone is having that Marvel fever. I was at a gathering with my friends and family and the trailer for 'Guardians of the Galaxy' popped up on the telly. My cousins and friends kinda cheered but I was unsatisfied and I remarked that it would be a mistake -- I was certain it would be Marvel's first flop.
Now, it's safe to say that both of theirs films are my favorite in the MCU. Also, it wasn't Star-Lord's fault.
Peter Frank kinda is his fault don't lie 🙄
d o r a e r i there were 14 million other possibilities .... he wouldn't have done the same thing in all of them ! Still they failed
The second isn’t good
Marvel had a flop long before that. The Incredible Hulk was a complete failure. It bombed at the box office. It only made 263 million worldwide on a budget of 150 million.
Peter Frank StarLord who? 😂😂😂
OMG! Spielberg was a genius!
Donald Sutherland should've take a leaf out of Sir Alec Guinness' book on how to broker a deal.
Never bet against Steven Spielberg
Richard Dreyfuss has said that he thought "Jaws" was going to be a flop.
Yah I was told that George Lucas expected that Star Wars was going to be a flop but was surprised it did so well
Nonsense
The new jumanji movie? A comedy sequel/reboot of a 90s family film starring Kevin Hart and the rock was doomed to fail but wasn’t it like one of the biggest movies at the box office in 2017?
"Liam Neeson was known mostly for serious dramatic pieces, and a Star Wars film."
Ahem.
Krull
High Spirits
Love Actually
Darkman
Rob Roy
Next of Kin
Excalibur
The prosecution rests.
you have to understand people not always got all the picture
Don't forget The Godfather. Al Pacino and Diane Keaton were getting drunk because they thought it would bomb.
No Movies Were Supposed To Be Flops No one in History has Ever Said "Lets Make a Flop".
Simon Maguire You must not know of Uwe Boll.
He never planed on flops, he was hoping on hits
Simon Maguire No he would make movies that were supposed to be flops to get tax breaks for German studios. Read or listen to some interviews with him. He readily admits it.
Jeff Daniels thought Speed was a crummy, run of the mill action film that wouldn't do anything at the box office. Instead, it became a smash hit. I've heard interviews from a lot of actors who say they often have no clue if a film will be good or bad when released because so much of it is made in the edit. Star Wars with bad editing and cheesy 70s effects and sounds would have been awful. Instead, it's the classic it became. The prequels, with better edting, would be so much better.
You need to see The Producers.
I rememeber all the reports about Pirates while they were filming. Everyone said Johnny Depp has lost his marbles he's playing a gayish pirate how dumb noone cares about pirate movies anymore
Arnold was also reluctant to act in the film, because he had to play the bad guy, which usually would end up being a typecasting dead end for actor's career. He wanted to play the Kyle Reese role if I recall correctly. So James Cameron had to do some convincing. He also hated the "'I'll be back" scene, because he thought it was goofy, and he didn't like how it sounded preferring "I will be back." instead. Glad he listened.
Christopher McDonald I’m pretty sure that’s what he said in his Total Recall book. He didn’t want to get type casted as the bad guy going in the future. Arnold said he wanted to be a movie star, and playing a bad usually was a dead end. So he was really cautious because of this. He was getting offered to play the muscle, the bad guy, but he wanted main, lead character roles, or at least portray the good guy. Terminator on paper was opposite to that.
But funny thing what happened was that he started giving Cameron tips. Arnold was in the military and his weightlifting career, aspirations to achieve success by any means necessary made himself into a bit of a machine, so he could really empathize with this robot character.
How everything should be done automatic. Like assembling and de-assembling a gun, I think he gave an example. How it’s a killing machine. So I think that part turned him over, he thought he could do a really good job playing that. There was obviously more to this but I can’t remember it all.
I’ve read the book some years ago, but that’s what I remember him saying.
alex guiness also had a 2% of the box office of star wars. inversely he didnt want to take much money from lucas thinking that 2% would be pennies.
Chris Pratt made the movie good.
The later Star Wars prequels were supposed to be wildly successful but turned out to be flops.
"I just felt something really terrible was going to happen to me personally, or the movie"
Well it didn't happen to the movie...
I'm not a mathematician but how does 2% of Animal House come out to $14 million and 2.5% of Star Wars come out to $40 million?
Simple. It comes out by "Animal House" having made 700 million and Star Wars 1 Billion 600 Million. Pretty easy maths, actually.
1. "The Terminator": "Oil be back many times in the future."
2. "The Full Monty": "Why should only buff men be objectified by women?"
3. "It": "You will all FLOAT, straight into box office history!"
4. "Pirates of the Caribbean": "Everyone will have 'Capt. Jack Sparrow' on their lips!"
5. "Guardians of the Galaxy": "A trash-talking Raccoon!? Are you joking?"
6. "Taken": "Movies about a kidnapping aren't even on the radar."
7. "Animal House": "College fraternity movies aren't funny."
8. "Star Wars": "Knights in outer space!? That's not even a concept."
funny the talking tree and talking raccoon are two of the most popular mcu characters
There’s no way in hell Kiera knightly wasn’t telling every person she’d ever met that she was making a movie with Johnny depp.
Sharknado should DEFINITELY be on the list, even though it's not really a "box office" movie...(it was/is released in some theaters)
Man, u never know. Just like how Mr. Sheffield didn’t know Cats would be a hit :3
Valenchina I just watched that episode
A Nanny reference? I AM NOT WORTHY!
I think a lot of these movies were good because of the actors themselves
If we didn’t have those specific actors and the way they portrayed their charters the movies wouldn’t have been so memerable
the first Pirates was effing amazing. the sequels were good but didn't compare to the first. it's very lame though to hear actors say how "fucking crap" the movie that's paying them and that they accepted to work on
Who would bet against the Marvel Avenger's universe? We're all Pavlov's dogs on THAT franchise;) Can't wait for the THREE AND A HALF HOUR version of Endgame to come out: eat salty snacks so you retain water! Just sayin...;)
TAKEN is one of the most thrilling and satisfying movie I've ever watched.
"Taken 2" is better.
Wow dind't know about that Lucas /Spielberg cross-bet.
I love Liam Neeson! That deep voice! 😍😍😍😍
I rmb I was going to see Matrix 3 with my parents, but then at the ticket booth I was wtf is this Pirates of the Caribbean, sounds cool, so I convinced my parents to see that instead...... best fucking decision in my life as I would later recall the incidence by
Guardians of the Galaxy SHOULD have bombed! Stupidest thing I ever watched, and I saw Commando and Raising Arizona.
Taken also took me by surprise. I had always associated Liam Neeson with Rob Roy since that was the first I movie I saw him in. Now, whenever I see Liam Neeson, I automatically think of Taken.
Check out "Darkman".
@@laustcawz2089 Yeah, I saw darkman when I was a kid and I thought back then that it was just a generic super hero movie just like the others at that time. Re watching it years later and I could see Liam's action star potential, it took a couple of years and a single movie to totally bring it out.
@@deception1845
I never saw it as generic
& I don't know what other
superhero movies you mean.
If you mean "Batman", well,
I was underwhelmed, though
"Batman Returns" was a little better.
Anyhow, I like "Taken",
but I'm even more impressed
with "Taken 2". Never got into
the "Darkman" sequels, though.
Bad title. Flops don't make back their budget. You're talking about lowish budget films that overperformed.
How the hell does youtube know i was watching taken...damn😲
Why do people keep saying “Marvel’s First Flop”? They already had a flop. The Incredible Hulk was a box office BOMB. It made only 263 million worldwide on a budget of 150 million. Complete failure of a film. Not to mention the first Captain America didn’t even make 375 million. Not a flop but not really a big success either.
GotG was a near-universal "I told you so" to all my friends.
One i couldnt believe wasnt here is Titanic. A 3hr epic that went 125% overbudget, costing $200m when only one film had cost over $120m before (Waterworld - $172m). Everyone said it would bomb, and it was the biggest box office hit ever.
"John, you don't call a man a tree"
George Lucas would have made his money back, by making a similar bet with 20th Century Fox, when he demanded 100% of the SW merchandising rights, and was given it, as the studio thought it would not do that well.
Lucas made millions on every SW bit of merchandise for decades after that (I made him rich on buying all the SW action figures).
Taken may have been a hit but it kind of typecasted Liam Neeson since it seems he's only done that kind of role since.
I don't think he cares. He's making a tremendous amount of money in these last few years before he retires most likely.
Pirates of the Caribbean was going to be a flop? bollocks...a film is going to be a flop when you hire actors who charge over $10m a film? and the film is over $100m? .......I dont know why they are saying this but that film wasn't made to be anything but a big hit.
Where the hell is “Napoleon dynamite”
Tina , eat the food! 😣
True 40,000 budget to 40,000,000 DOLLARS
What did Arnold say to his agent after the terminators success "you're fired"
His agent retorted "fahk u azz hol"
No, it was...
“I won’t be back! “
The Full Monty is one of my favorite movies
I think part of the reason Star Wars was so big is that most folks never paid any attention to 2001 ASO, or had even seen the movie, as it had not really been a Blockbuster. The Special Effects in Star Wars were not a big leap, and in fact in many ways were actually worse. Star Wars awed the audience with pretty good SEs, but the story was incredible and easy to understand. Magic, but the lack of audience respect/perspective for previous movies was part of the magic too.
Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure was supposed to be a tax write-off that would save Orion. Then it became a box-office hit and Orion went bankrupt.
CptColumbo lol, didn't know that, thanks for that tidbit
The Producers syndrome
Biggest thrash is the stupid overly childish dumb Guardians of The Galaxy, that's proof that Disney can put whatever thrash out aslong as it's apart of the MCU it'll be popular and financially successful
There was also Four Weddings and a Funeral, the film that launched the career of hugh grant and everyone thought it would be a flop
I think with that one it wasnt predicted to flop, just not be a worldwide smash like it was. With a small budget (about $4m) and lots of well known British names including its writer, it wouldve likely broke even just in the UK.
Eisner almost destroyed Disney)...I'm pretty sure most folks thought Pirates was going to kick butt!
Maybe we were waiting for a sci-fi movie brave enough to have a talking tree and a raccoon with a gun. Hmm? Hmm?
Treebeard hates this comment and is tired of "human privilege" costing him roles.
In 1977, 20th Century Fox released 2 science fiction movies: “Star Wars” and “Damnation Alley”, Guess which one the studio thought would be the bigger hit. Here we are, 40 years later and I’ll bet most of you have never heard of “Damnation Alley”
Why wasn't the new Jumanji movie on this list
General Butterscotch Because it wasn't that good and didn't do that well
debbie peter I didn't say it was anything ground-breaking, just that it was a lot better than everyone expected, given the track record of most remakes/soft reboots
Yeah it almost broke a billion dollars that is so bad lol yeah right dumbass
Now I know why he made fun of Sylvester Stallone when Arnold Schwarzenegger was interviewed on Jimmy Kimmel. He told Jimmy Kimmel that when he was first starting out in his career as an actor that he was offered to do some crappy movie, Scorpion he tricked Stallone into doing the movie telling him it was a great movie but he was too busy at the time. Stallon ending up doing the movie but it didn't do well.