Remember, this is currently the only non-sunset Kinetic hand cannon in the game with Demolitionist. This is the Austringer replacement I've been waiting forever for just to use in solo PvE content.
I think you might have meant the only non-sunset 140 Kinetic HC. Actually it's the only non-sunset 140 that roll Demo, and it can get Demo/Adrenaline Junkie, which is about to be insane
I've been telling people about the judgment for so long now, I'm happy you are shedding light on it. Mine has Hitmarck, Acc rounds, slide shot, and timed payload with a range MW. Would only change the sight to Fastdraw but its still an amazing roll.
@@kineticstar I mean Cool Guy was using it in controller, I'm pretty sure a lot of his reviews are tailored towards controller players since that's his input of choice.
@@otiscleetus the flashlight on Fate gets in my way when I shoot, so I still use Dire over it. Judgment has scratched my itch for an explosive payload HC in my Kinetic slot.
Can't not mention osmosis/demo on this thing. Still grinding for one but from what I've seen it is top tier for pve in select builds and specifically with wells.
“Feel” of a weapon is more important than any perks or meta in my opinion. Sometimes things just feel right and you perform better with them. I’ve got a friend who absolutely swears by his Dire Promise even though he has god roll Timelost Fatebringer sand adept Pali, he says they just don’t feel as crisp to him. I felt the same in the 120 meta, nothing felt as good as Bottom Dollar despite Ogneous being well regarded as the champion. Now I can’t drop my Pali even though I main duality because no other 140 feels the same to me. You’ve got to feel the weapon you’re using and enjoy it or you’ll not perform with it
I agree, I avoided HC most of my time in Crucible because I didnt like the crit requirement for them to be competitive, but my Rangefinder/Overflow Palindrome feels so goddamn good to shoot, its my main PvP weapon now.
Eh, the gun that I struggle to fight back against is Fatebringer not Pali and definitely not Judgement of Dire. Yeah I see a Dire occasionally, and yeah it's good with a god roll, but I picked up an Explosive payload Fatebringer with firefly or adrenaline junky, and damn this thing feels snappy and has range for days even without adept icarus. I put my dire on recently and even with it being a god roll (I think it's missing the range MW) it's still good but the damage fall off is pretty agressive.
I went up against you, in a few matches, when you were grabbing footage for this video. I have a Tunnel Vision/Kill Clip roll and I love it! The feel and consistency of the gun really did it for me.
I do too. I don't quite have the muscle memory for it yet but something about it just feels so, so good. Need to get unused to my Dire Promise and practice with this bad boy haha
Hey cool guy, you don’t need to save checkpoint since it’s the first encounter. You can just kill boss and then reset the dungeon and then just do the tunnel skip from that first room. It’s still quick and saves the time spent switching and then switching back
Lol really????? No way!! He is saying thise for all the people who can't take the skip. Not every1 can do shit like that. He is thinking about those people to help them make it easier.
@@derekbaker4763 the skip isn’t that difficult, just get to the tunnel and then pull out your sparrow and ride it to the top. I think you severely underestimate just how easy the skip actually is or the skill of the average player
I know this video is old, but on the off chance you see this, and never got it, I have pretty much every roll for this Handcannon, inlcuding Tunnel/Opening (a 5/5 too), moving target/timed, demo/adrenaline, demo/timed, you name it. IMO slide shot/opening shot, moving target/timed payload are the two pvp rolls to go for. They're unique, not competing for the space occupied by other handcannons, and FEEL amazing.
I've been farming with my brother relentlessly for a Demo/AJ roll for my top tree Contraverse Hold voidwalker...of course my brother has had it drop twice, and I'm still searching. RNG favors those that aren't there for anything specific. IT KNOWS.
Yeah I was farming for demo osmosis judgement and eventually settled on demo adagio and demo aj. Demo adagio with my salvo and sleeper or 1K with a elemental ordinance well build is stupid fun. I still want osmosis but now I think I need to farm for the demo osmosis last breath. That batch is very elusive!
I feel that but for the sniper. My god roll is fluted barrel/Accurized rounds/overflow/snapshot handling master work. Haven't had a single sniper drop with snapshot yet and I’ve been running it solo since this season started 🙃
@@Travissaur man everyone I’ve farmed Prophecy with looking for that sniper asked for that roll and of course I have gotten it 9 times and don’t even feel bad breaking it down because it exactly NOT what I want. Lol if Bungie could let us trade weapons overall gameplay stats would plummet by 90 percent because everyone would have what they want and a bag of chips!
At 2:49 slow down the video to .5 speed and observe closely at the multi kill feed, the bullet magnetism to the head is insane, at times you can clearly see he pulls the trigger when the red dot is aligned on their torso and headshots still register. I need this HC
I really like the perk categories you came up with. I've been playing long enough to figure out which perks help the most in certain situations, but actually giving the categories names is a great way to think about what you want from a gun and if a perk combo is actually what you want. Not to mention it's a great introduction to perks for newer players and/or people who don't have as much time to play. Excited to see more of this category system in your future weapon review videos
CoolGuy, this new "God Roll" Categories (win more, win now, passive, win help) is an amazing new thing to do for content, and Im extremely excited to see what meta weapons get this treatment. I dont see any other content creator explain as deeply and intuitively as you my dude, and honestly you're a blessing for this community for that. Thank you for another banger fucking video my dude, Peace
One more roll that I have had a lot of fun with and is very end game viable is the Osmosis Demo roll for PvE (the Auto can also get too). Pair it with any grenade builds but Warlock's Verity's Brow is the best (Stasis Turret power or Bottom Tree DB Booms). Then use well mods for extra grenade energy back and if your running Elemental Armaments + Font of might, you get a massive rolling 25% damage boost for ten seconds every well you grab. Especially useful in a season where fusions are dominating the energy slots.
I've got one with tunnel vision+adagio and good range, I know stand alone adagio is lack luster but I combo'd it with one eyed mask, frontal assault, and high energy fire for two taps and paired it with duality so it's almost like 4 guns in 2 slots. Idk if that's too niche but I think it has high 6v6 potential
I’m on MnK - I have Osmosis/ Demo- Tunnel Vision/ MKC / - Actually Encore / open shot roll I have is solid. None of them compare to Timelost Fatebringer. Dude on MnK - Judgement reminds me of firing a HC back on controller. I don’t like how much judgement jumps and blocks my view .. Kinda like Sunshot used to. Love ya Coolguy keep it up!
About time someone makes a video on it. I have Fastdraw, Accurized, Slideshot, opening shot Range Mw on one and then a Accurized, slide shot, timed payload one as well. Things are crazy good
My fire team always brings in each character after the 2nd encounter for the bonus chest before rainbow road. That chest has a chance to drop every dungeon weapon and I got both my god roll darkest before and judgements from there.
Just checked out the Judgments I have sitting in my vault and sure enough one of them is a DemoJunkie roll with Appended Mag / Steady Rounds and Fastdraw / Steadyhand with a cheeky Handling MW. May have to give it a whirl once the AJ changes go live.
I think a big benefit is something about the shape of its barrel. The top is flat and not too wide, with two slopes that angle right towards the aim point. Its as if you can use the model of the gun itself to center your target instinctively, and then fine-tune when the aim point settles. The black stripe on the top also directs your eye down the center of the barrel to where the aim point will return. As a cherry on top, the triangular barrel is just thin enough that you can still see your target mid-recoil between shots. She's a thicc lady but Judgment just feels right. Simplicity in design makes for excellence in performance, very Nine indeed.
You ain't lying man, this HC has the best feel in the game, it's recoil is so controllable... I have fast draw, accurized, handling MW, tunnel vision and MKC... It is awesome... Demolitionist/timed payload is amazing in PvE as well but it's hard to justify using it after finally getting time lost Fatebringer this week
First off, I’ve been waiting patiently for this video lol so thank you so much. Two, since year one, this has been my favorite kinetic handcannon, and I could NOT find something that felt right when they sunset it. Now that it’s back I couldn’t be more happier. Three, I feel more comfortable using this gun JUST because you co-sign on it!! Great video, thank you!!
Mine has max range with true sight, mov target and opening shot. Been using this hc since the first iron banner of this season and while at first I found the model too blocky but the weapon just kept hitting all the shots. Opening shot bends bullets around corners, gives me stupid headshots and that 13 back to back headshots is extremely common. Have over 1K kills on it from the 2 first weeks of using Judgement and it has raised as top 3 favorite handcannons of all time for me. Extremely solid even in pve like you mentioned, using it with my warlock verity's brow turret build since it has osmosis, great for generating grenade energy as well with demo, all around one of the best hcs and I'm very happy to see it getting the attention it deserves. Amazing video as always Cool, peace.
I have a godroll Judgement with Accruized, Tunnel Vision, Opening Short and Stab MW. Absolutely top roll that I immediately saved in my vault. I should give it a try.
I do have a few good rolls. I do have one with demolitions, adrenaline junkie and a stability MW. I have one with Accurized rounds, moving target, times payload. The last one I have has encore, adrenaline junkie, range MW.
I really like the way you categorize perks. I always kinda sort these perks into these categories on an unconscious level, but it helps seeing it visualized and broken down.
I have a fastdraw, acc rounds, ensemble, opening shot, range mw roll. Feels great and ensemble is almost always just free Quickdraw snapshot on an already stacked hc. Love this gun
I also have one with Steadyhand, Accurized Rounds, Demonistionist and Adrenaline Junkie with a Range MW... it feels great in PVE. Haven't used it in PVP though. Will definitely give it a try after the update.
I was blessed by RNGsus while helping a newish player through the dungeon. Just after the TWAB I got the Demo/Junkie roll. Great video though, I'll definitely be farming for a PvP roll
Great video!! I love the way you break these weapons down! Very helpful! My roll is Hitmark, accurized, moving target, opening shot, with a stability MW. I couldn’t be happier with it. Keep up the great work!!
Adrenaline Junkie is going to be a really top shelf perk once it gets its "Grenadebuckler" change and instakill sticky nades are a thing. Demojunkie may even have some particularly effective synergy with that build, since they're giving stuckies longer cooldowns to balance out the instakill potential. Get a kill with the nade, get kills with the 50% damage boost on your weapon, and you'll be ready for another sticky kill way sooner than you'd be without demolitionist to give you the boost.
I just got my first one today, as a solo player I should have believed in myself more and tried for one a long time ago. I’m glad I finally did it though, I’ve not had a kinetic hc that I enjoy using, so I’ve just been using Pali with wastelander. But I’ve wanted to switch it up and use some legendary specials that I haven’t been able to use like sojourners tale. I got my first judgment today and it came with steadyhand/ crossfire - tactical mag/ ext. mag - moving target - timed payload with a reload mw. Not the best I know but to me it’s basically a 3/5 maybe 4/5 because having a bigger mag is kinda nice. Base size of 9 kinda sucks imo. I would have preferred a range mw but for my very first one after dying a bunch to the mini boss or whatever I was satisfied. Wasn’t even sure if it would drop tbh. I took it into some elimination and at first it was weird but I was able to adjust very fast and now, even with only 50 range, I’ve masterworked it and it’s one of my favorite even tied with my 78 range Pali godroll. Consider me a big fan of judgment. TLDR: judgment is gud
The Ridge wallet is a God roll and it rolls with steadyhand (easy to grip), tactical mag (fits in skinny jeans and doesn't go anywhere), demolitionist (makes it easy to well, charge for your purchase), and adrenaline junkie (it holds up in an active lifestyle).
I have been hoarding the adrenaline junky and demo roll in hopes that it will be good. Truesight and accurized gives mine 61 range, 50 stability, 50 handling. I have a reload masterwork but I probably would have preferred the 9 points in range to bring me up to 70 range. I also have saved adrenaline junky and demo corrective measure which I'm thinking might also be amazing.
I've got the demo-junkie roll w steadyhand + range mw. The 5/5 for me would probably be a tac mag instead of flared mag. I nearly deleted it after trying multiple grenade builds to get it to work for me, but found the 10% damage reward for the infrequent grenade kills to be too little. Luckily I must've stashed it instead of sharding it and I'm sure it'll be my PvE main next season.
Suuuuuuper happy they reissued this! One of my all time favourite legendaries! I'm looking for 2 Rolls really, Fast Draw or Steady Hand, Accurized Rounds, Demolitionist x Adrenaline Junkie, Range Masterwork, maybe Stability if I don't get a decent sight. Moving Target x Opening Shot would be my second roll I'd like to lock down. Kinda want to try out Tunnel Vision x MKC too though tbf.
I've got a slideshot opening shot roll- if you stack the two perks, i.e. slideshot and opening shot activating at the same time, the first bullet has genuinely stupif damage falloff and magnetism. You can aim for their chest and get a headshot, it's so dumb. I love it.
I have the demojunkie roll, I have the tunnel vision mkc roll, and I have the slideshot opening shot roll. It's sureshot+accurized, slideshot, opening shot, and a range masterwork. Perfect, 5/5 roll, love it.
I have demo, timed payload and my friend has demo adrenaline junkie. I use the demo, payload one all the time on my warlock its amazing for pve content and will be even better when hand cannons have an artifact mod again
I absolutely love my judgement. My only complaint is the mag size, but it's by far my favorite 140 in the feels department. I have a max range opening shot demo with fastdraw and a steady hand tac mag, slideshot/tp roll. I won't lie my demo roll is my favorite because rev hunter but obviously that's gonna change soon.
Got super lucky on my first drop and have appended mag demolitionist adrenaline junkie reload masterwork- it already is absolutely amazing in pve, cant wait till the junkie buff
I should give my Judgement a try. I got fastdraw and steady hand, accurized rounds, moving target and opening shot with a range masterwork. But I keep using my Timelost Fatebringer (arrow head/full bore, tac mag, explosive payload and opening shot) over it.
I've been grinding for that demo junkie roll for weeks now.. or demo osmosis wouldn't be that bad either. still no luck, although what I got is tunnel vision multikill clip and range mw, which I feel like is the best pvp roll. I'm not much of a pvp guy but when its time to get in there, I'll take this baby with me 100%. what a beautiful looking and sounding gun. good vid bro
I have the "demo-junkie" roll. Feels great, very fun to use. Still looking for two of the other three weapons that can get it because there's only four, not six. They are: Judgement, the last breath, corrective measure, and the hothead
I think the mistake that happened for what weapons have the roll, is that the adept versions of corrective and hothead technically count as different weapons in the api, but I don't consider them different because they really aren't
I’m sold on this handcannon and I’ve thought of the god roll I’d want, thanks for opening my eyes, I’d want stability masterwork stability sight, steady rounds, slideshot/moving target, with opening shot/timed Payload
Got my Demo/Junkie roll last night. With the whole ability regeneration nerf right around the corner, that’s one tool you definitely want in your toolbox! Thanks for the heads up and love that new perk breakdown format.
for those of y'all annoyed by the ad-reads. me too but ridge is legit a rly good wallet, without the inbuilt warrantee I wouldn't have bought it, but the money clip is so strong I use it as a belt clip like 1ce a week and that shit's still holding strong. my only issue is it wears on the print of the cards, but not that seriously tbh
Funny thing……. You mentioned the “Demo-Junkie” roll and me knowing that I have a few for infusion food, decided to check if one of them was that perk combo. Low and behold, I have that combo. 😁
Can roll with Demolitionist and Adrenaline Junkie. I think demo is going to be pretty good with the upcoming ability changes and Adrenaline Junkie is getting a buff. Gun already feels great in my opinion and is farmable.
The most unique roll is Demolitionist and Osmosis. Only other not sunset weapon with these perks is Lat Breath. This unleashes a whole new level of build crafting, especially elemental wells and exotics.
No doubt! I need need need that last breath with armor piercing rounds. So far haven’t even gotten a demo to drop. Bunch of subsistence frenzy ap but nothing close to what I really need for my warlock grenade builds.
Have to try my build Demo with adrenaline junkie Middle tree sunbreak Ashen wake Charge with light modes for grande boost And 100 discipline This is broken and it only gonna gets better with the new sticky grandes buff
i got really lucky, in just a few clears I got a steadyhand, accurized, slideshot, opening shot, and stability masterwork judgement roll, it's a beast. Fatebringer is great of course but this is another awesome choice
That is so weird I got a wild hair last night and pulled my slide shot time payload judgement out of the vault. I was trying to describe to my friends how easy the recoil is to control. I love it
I just dropped a true sight, accurized, demo opening shot roll with a range mw roll last night and it feels great, very stoked to have this for post patch
Great video. HCs like this are so roll dependent. Personally I feel Annual Skate and Finite Impactor have some equally as amazing rolls. My Annual Skate with Tunnel Vision plus Timed Payload is pretty special. My Finite Impactor with Firmly Planted and Eye of the Storm is the best for winning an initial fight. I’m not sure you did justice to some of the possibilities of these, but appreciate how hard it is to get them to try.
I was able to get Demolitionist and Adrenaline Junkie on the The Last Breath but not the Judgement. Back to more grinding I suppose! Great video as always!
@Coolguy. My friend Crzder099 made in the video @4:06 me and him ran into to U using that judgement .. “Great video “ .. maybe next time I’ll make it in there . Was awesome I had you in 3 or 4 lobby’s of 6s this week GG.
Still looking for Demolitionist and Adrenaline Junkie roll on this thing for a pvp build. When I first saw what the weapon could roll with, I knew I was gonna farm for that roll.
I’ve got sureshot/crossfire, accurized/steady rounds, demo & adrenaline junkie with a handling masterwork and i cannot wait to experiment with it with the December updates
It's strange that you say annual skate doesn't have much going for it. I personally feel the way you do about the judgment with the annual skate. I have a steady hand sight, tact mag, triple tap, timed payload, range masterwork. It is so fat my favorite 140 hand cannon and seems to just be easy to use and vibes so well with me.
I agree with you on the annual skate. It just feels good to shoot. Even with Cantata coming out I still tend to use my annual skate a little more just because I like the way it feels so much. I just wish bungie would retroactively add these origin perks to weapons that came out before witch queen, or even just add the perk to any newly acquired ones. Annual skate with Suros Synergy would be just that much better.
Remember, this is currently the only non-sunset Kinetic hand cannon in the game with Demolitionist. This is the Austringer replacement I've been waiting forever for just to use in solo PvE content.
True Prophecy also gets it actually
@@erikrpeterson 120s not fun in PvE imo
I think you might have meant the only non-sunset 140 Kinetic HC. Actually it's the only non-sunset 140 that roll Demo, and it can get Demo/Adrenaline Junkie, which is about to be insane
Ehh
Timelost fatebringer is literally a legendary kinetic sunshot
@@pratham6412 Nowhere close. Sunshot chains the explosions, firefly is just a glorified dragonfly.
I've been telling people about the judgment for so long now, I'm happy you are shedding light on it. Mine has Hitmarck, Acc rounds, slide shot, and timed payload with a range MW. Would only change the sight to Fastdraw but its still an amazing roll.
Yep...just hard to not use a timelost FB or adept Pali with the right rolls. Fun to change it up tho
But is it awesome only on mnk or is it good on controller too?
@@kineticstar I mean Cool Guy was using it in controller, I'm pretty sure a lot of his reviews are tailored towards controller players since that's his input of choice.
@@otiscleetus the flashlight on Fate gets in my way when I shoot, so I still use Dire over it. Judgment has scratched my itch for an explosive payload HC in my Kinetic slot.
timed cant win a duel against me add me and post the vid no cap
Can't not mention osmosis/demo on this thing. Still grinding for one but from what I've seen it is top tier for pve in select builds and specifically with wells.
I have that on my fatebringer and it's fantastic with warlock well builds and using veritys brow
@lilyxiuxiu
Did you get that roll? Cause I’m too late ⏰ in getting it at all
“Feel” of a weapon is more important than any perks or meta in my opinion. Sometimes things just feel right and you perform better with them.
I’ve got a friend who absolutely swears by his Dire Promise even though he has god roll Timelost Fatebringer sand adept Pali, he says they just don’t feel as crisp to him.
I felt the same in the 120 meta, nothing felt as good as Bottom Dollar despite Ogneous being well regarded as the champion. Now I can’t drop my Pali even though I main duality because no other 140 feels the same to me.
You’ve got to feel the weapon you’re using and enjoy it or you’ll not perform with it
I agree, I avoided HC most of my time in Crucible because I didnt like the crit requirement for them to be competitive, but my Rangefinder/Overflow Palindrome feels so goddamn good to shoot, its my main PvP weapon now.
I have a slideshot swashbuckler ancient gospel that I love. I usually prefer pulsed but the gun handles really well.
Eh, the gun that I struggle to fight back against is Fatebringer not Pali and definitely not Judgement of Dire. Yeah I see a Dire occasionally, and yeah it's good with a god roll, but I picked up an Explosive payload Fatebringer with firefly or adrenaline junky, and damn this thing feels snappy and has range for days even without adept icarus. I put my dire on recently and even with it being a god roll (I think it's missing the range MW) it's still good but the damage fall off is pretty agressive.
@@Osprey1994 That’s for you though, I don’t find it hard duelling anybody with a Fatebringer and I hit more shots with my Pali than anything else
Agreed.
Moving target timed payload is super consistent easily my favorite
That's the one I have and it feels amazing
Lol, the best one I have is encore and adrenalinejunkie (2 taps). It is not bad, but I would much rather have your rolls.
The firing sound is 100% a contributing factor.
Crisp, short and not screeching. Much easier to focus with.
I went up against you, in a few matches, when you were grabbing footage for this video. I have a Tunnel Vision/Kill Clip roll and I love it! The feel and consistency of the gun really did it for me.
I do too. I don't quite have the muscle memory for it yet but something about it just feels so, so good. Need to get unused to my Dire Promise and practice with this bad boy haha
How did you get one with Kill Clip? It's not in the perk pool.
@@rokrv6 I'm sure he means Multikill Clip.
@@rokrv6 MKC, my bad!
Hey cool guy, you don’t need to save checkpoint since it’s the first encounter. You can just kill boss and then reset the dungeon and then just do the tunnel skip from that first room. It’s still quick and saves the time spent switching and then switching back
Lol really????? No way!! He is saying thise for all the people who can't take the skip. Not every1 can do shit like that. He is thinking about those people to help them make it easier.
@@derekbaker4763 What do you mean no everyone can do it? It’s extremely easy just use to tree dawnblade and a sword.
@@Bill_Dipperly Any class can do it fairly easily with practice, just need to release and re-boost on your sparrow up the tube
Even without the skip, the tunnel takes a minute or two to do so it's not really an issue
@@derekbaker4763 the skip isn’t that difficult, just get to the tunnel and then pull out your sparrow and ride it to the top. I think you severely underestimate just how easy the skip actually is or the skill of the average player
That 95 recoil just feels great on this thing. I'd bet its got a juicy accuracy stat we cant see, the gun just hits heads.
I know this video is old, but on the off chance you see this, and never got it, I have pretty much every roll for this Handcannon, inlcuding Tunnel/Opening (a 5/5 too), moving target/timed, demo/adrenaline, demo/timed, you name it.
IMO slide shot/opening shot, moving target/timed payload are the two pvp rolls to go for. They're unique, not competing for the space occupied by other handcannons, and FEEL amazing.
I think the sublime and cosmically absolute aesthetics of The Nine really encompass this gun being really controllable
I've been farming with my brother relentlessly for a Demo/AJ roll for my top tree Contraverse Hold voidwalker...of course my brother has had it drop twice, and I'm still searching. RNG favors those that aren't there for anything specific. IT KNOWS.
That last breath roll of aj demo is even tougher.
Yeah I was farming for demo osmosis judgement and eventually settled on demo adagio and demo aj. Demo adagio with my salvo and sleeper or 1K with a elemental ordinance well build is stupid fun. I still want osmosis but now I think I need to farm for the demo osmosis last breath. That batch is very elusive!
I feel that but for the sniper. My god roll is fluted barrel/Accurized rounds/overflow/snapshot handling master work. Haven't had a single sniper drop with snapshot yet and I’ve been running it solo since this season started 🙃
Shame that HHSN doesnt proc the reload portion of demolitionist. I have a demo/adrenalin Junkie roll and I was devastated. Its still good though.
@@Travissaur man everyone I’ve farmed Prophecy with looking for that sniper asked for that roll and of course I have gotten it 9 times and don’t even feel bad breaking it down because it exactly NOT what I want. Lol if Bungie could let us trade weapons overall gameplay stats would plummet by 90 percent because everyone would have what they want and a bag of chips!
At 2:49 slow down the video to .5 speed and observe closely at the multi kill feed, the bullet magnetism to the head is insane, at times you can clearly see he pulls the trigger when the red dot is aligned on their torso and headshots still register. I need this HC
I really like the perk categories you came up with. I've been playing long enough to figure out which perks help the most in certain situations, but actually giving the categories names is a great way to think about what you want from a gun and if a perk combo is actually what you want. Not to mention it's a great introduction to perks for newer players and/or people who don't have as much time to play. Excited to see more of this category system in your future weapon review videos
CoolGuy, this new "God Roll" Categories (win more, win now, passive, win help) is an amazing new thing to do for content, and Im extremely excited to see what meta weapons get this treatment. I dont see any other content creator explain as deeply and intuitively as you my dude, and honestly you're a blessing for this community for that. Thank you for another banger fucking video my dude,
Peace
One more roll that I have had a lot of fun with and is very end game viable is the Osmosis Demo roll for PvE (the Auto can also get too).
Pair it with any grenade builds but Warlock's Verity's Brow is the best (Stasis Turret power or Bottom Tree DB Booms). Then use well mods for extra grenade energy back and if your running Elemental Armaments + Font of might, you get a massive rolling 25% damage boost for ten seconds every well you grab.
Especially useful in a season where fusions are dominating the energy slots.
I've got one with tunnel vision+adagio and good range, I know stand alone adagio is lack luster but I combo'd it with one eyed mask, frontal assault, and high energy fire for two taps and paired it with duality so it's almost like 4 guns in 2 slots. Idk if that's too niche but I think it has high 6v6 potential
I’m on MnK - I have Osmosis/ Demo- Tunnel Vision/ MKC / - Actually Encore / open shot roll I have is solid. None of them compare to Timelost Fatebringer. Dude on MnK - Judgement reminds me of firing a HC back on controller. I don’t like how much judgement jumps and blocks my view .. Kinda like Sunshot used to. Love ya Coolguy keep it up!
About time someone makes a video on it. I have Fastdraw, Accurized, Slideshot, opening shot Range Mw on one and then a Accurized, slide shot, timed payload one as well. Things are crazy good
I got 1 Fastdraw, Accurized rounds,slideshot, adrenaline junkie haven't tried it much but thanks to ur vid I'm gonna take it for a spin👍
My fire team always brings in each character after the 2nd encounter for the bonus chest before rainbow road. That chest has a chance to drop every dungeon weapon and I got both my god roll darkest before and judgements from there.
Just checked out the Judgments I have sitting in my vault and sure enough one of them is a DemoJunkie roll with Appended Mag / Steady Rounds and Fastdraw / Steadyhand with a cheeky Handling MW. May have to give it a whirl once the AJ changes go live.
I'm gonna have to give my Judgement a go, Steadyhand, Steady Rounds, Moving Target and Opening Shot!
I think a big benefit is something about the shape of its barrel. The top is flat and not too wide, with two slopes that angle right towards the aim point. Its as if you can use the model of the gun itself to center your target instinctively, and then fine-tune when the aim point settles. The black stripe on the top also directs your eye down the center of the barrel to where the aim point will return. As a cherry on top, the triangular barrel is just thin enough that you can still see your target mid-recoil between shots.
She's a thicc lady but Judgment just feels right. Simplicity in design makes for excellence in performance, very Nine indeed.
You ain't lying man, this HC has the best feel in the game, it's recoil is so controllable... I have fast draw, accurized, handling MW, tunnel vision and MKC... It is awesome... Demolitionist/timed payload is amazing in PvE as well but it's hard to justify using it after finally getting time lost Fatebringer this week
First off, I’ve been waiting patiently for this video lol so thank you so much.
Two, since year one, this has been my favorite kinetic handcannon, and I could NOT find something that felt right when they sunset it. Now that it’s back I couldn’t be more happier.
Three, I feel more comfortable using this gun JUST because you co-sign on it!! Great video, thank you!!
Mine has max range with true sight, mov target and opening shot. Been using this hc since the first iron banner of this season and while at first I found the model too blocky but the weapon just kept hitting all the shots. Opening shot bends bullets around corners, gives me stupid headshots and that 13 back to back headshots is extremely common. Have over 1K kills on it from the 2 first weeks of using Judgement and it has raised as top 3 favorite handcannons of all time for me. Extremely solid even in pve like you mentioned, using it with my warlock verity's brow turret build since it has osmosis, great for generating grenade energy as well with demo, all around one of the best hcs and I'm very happy to see it getting the attention it deserves. Amazing video as always Cool, peace.
I have a godroll Judgement with Accruized, Tunnel Vision, Opening Short and Stab MW. Absolutely top roll that I immediately saved in my vault. I should give it a try.
I do have a few good rolls. I do have one with demolitions, adrenaline junkie and a stability MW. I have one with Accurized rounds, moving target, times payload. The last one I have has encore, adrenaline junkie, range MW.
I really like the way you categorize perks. I always kinda sort these perks into these categories on an unconscious level, but it helps seeing it visualized and broken down.
I have a fastdraw, acc rounds, ensemble, opening shot, range mw roll. Feels great and ensemble is almost always just free Quickdraw snapshot on an already stacked hc. Love this gun
Adagio and radiant = 2 taps at ~.5 sec
I have one with Steadyhand Sights, Flared Magwell, Moving Target, Timed Payload, Stability MW... so amazing!!!
I also have one with Steadyhand, Accurized Rounds, Demonistionist and Adrenaline Junkie with a Range MW... it feels great in PVE. Haven't used it in PVP though. Will definitely give it a try after the update.
I was blessed by RNGsus while helping a newish player through the dungeon. Just after the TWAB I got the Demo/Junkie roll. Great video though, I'll definitely be farming for a PvP roll
Love this video setup, very insightful, allows me to send your videos to my mates without them getting confused on what you're talking about
Great video!! I love the way you break these weapons down! Very helpful! My roll is Hitmark, accurized, moving target, opening shot, with a stability MW. I couldn’t be happier with it. Keep up the great work!!
Adrenaline Junkie is going to be a really top shelf perk once it gets its "Grenadebuckler" change and instakill sticky nades are a thing. Demojunkie may even have some particularly effective synergy with that build, since they're giving stuckies longer cooldowns to balance out the instakill potential. Get a kill with the nade, get kills with the 50% damage boost on your weapon, and you'll be ready for another sticky kill way sooner than you'd be without demolitionist to give you the boost.
I just got my first one today, as a solo player I should have believed in myself more and tried for one a long time ago. I’m glad I finally did it though, I’ve not had a kinetic hc that I enjoy using, so I’ve just been using Pali with wastelander. But I’ve wanted to switch it up and use some legendary specials that I haven’t been able to use like sojourners tale. I got my first judgment today and it came with steadyhand/ crossfire - tactical mag/ ext. mag - moving target - timed payload with a reload mw. Not the best I know but to me it’s basically a 3/5 maybe 4/5 because having a bigger mag is kinda nice. Base size of 9 kinda sucks imo. I would have preferred a range mw but for my very first one after dying a bunch to the mini boss or whatever I was satisfied. Wasn’t even sure if it would drop tbh. I took it into some elimination and at first it was weird but I was able to adjust very fast and now, even with only 50 range, I’ve masterworked it and it’s one of my favorite even tied with my 78 range Pali godroll. Consider me a big fan of judgment.
TLDR: judgment is gud
The Ridge wallet is a God roll and it rolls with steadyhand (easy to grip), tactical mag (fits in skinny jeans and doesn't go anywhere), demolitionist (makes it easy to well, charge for your purchase), and adrenaline junkie (it holds up in an active lifestyle).
In that clip you had 'knock em down' active the whole time which gives you a massive stability buff
I have been hoarding the adrenaline junky and demo roll in hopes that it will be good. Truesight and accurized gives mine 61 range, 50 stability, 50 handling. I have a reload masterwork but I probably would have preferred the 9 points in range to bring me up to 70 range. I also have saved adrenaline junky and demo corrective measure which I'm thinking might also be amazing.
I've got the demo-junkie roll w steadyhand + range mw. The 5/5 for me would probably be a tac mag instead of flared mag. I nearly deleted it after trying multiple grenade builds to get it to work for me, but found the 10% damage reward for the infrequent grenade kills to be too little. Luckily I must've stashed it instead of sharding it and I'm sure it'll be my PvE main next season.
Steady hand, accurized rounds, moving target, opening shot. Range masterwork
Suuuuuuper happy they reissued this! One of my all time favourite legendaries! I'm looking for 2 Rolls really, Fast Draw or Steady Hand, Accurized Rounds, Demolitionist x Adrenaline Junkie, Range Masterwork, maybe Stability if I don't get a decent sight. Moving Target x Opening Shot would be my second roll I'd like to lock down. Kinda want to try out Tunnel Vision x MKC too though tbf.
Haha! Can you tell I didn't watch the whole video before commenting!? Demo-Junkie is gunna be a fun one!
Thanks for gettin nerdy with it fella
The best I have is Ensemble and Timed Payload, it's actually pretty good in PvE and can create solar wells when using Explosive Wellmaker
I've been subbed to you for years now and your videos have come such a long way, it's crazy. Thanks for the content bro
just got a couple myself, slideshot/opening and ensemble/opening both with stability mw. first hand cannon in a long time i’ve vibed with
I’m really happy with my roll. Truesight, accurized, encore, opening shot, and a stability MW.
I've got a slideshot opening shot roll- if you stack the two perks, i.e. slideshot and opening shot activating at the same time, the first bullet has genuinely stupif damage falloff and magnetism. You can aim for their chest and get a headshot, it's so dumb.
I love it.
I got a hit mark, steady hand, tunnel vision, and timed payload, stability MW. It is a great dueling wepon.
I’ve got fastdraw/steady hand, accurized, slide shot, opening shot with a range MW and it is a headshot magnet! I love it.
I have the demojunkie roll, I have the tunnel vision mkc roll, and I have the slideshot opening shot roll. It's sureshot+accurized, slideshot, opening shot, and a range masterwork. Perfect, 5/5 roll, love it.
you will use slideshot opening shot over tunnel vision and multikill clip? I feel like tunnel and MKC is the ultimate pvp god roll
I have said roll and love it. Nades are never ending. It’s my go to in pve. I use a slideshot timed payload I run in pvp as well.
I have demo, timed payload and my friend has demo adrenaline junkie.
I use the demo, payload one all the time on my warlock its amazing for pve content and will be even better when hand cannons have an artifact mod again
I absolutely love my judgement. My only complaint is the mag size, but it's by far my favorite 140 in the feels department.
I have a max range opening shot demo with fastdraw and a steady hand tac mag, slideshot/tp roll. I won't lie my demo roll is my favorite because rev hunter but obviously that's gonna change soon.
Got super lucky on my first drop and have appended mag demolitionist adrenaline junkie reload masterwork- it already is absolutely amazing in pve, cant wait till the junkie buff
I should give my Judgement a try. I got fastdraw and steady hand, accurized rounds, moving target and opening shot with a range masterwork.
But I keep using my Timelost Fatebringer (arrow head/full bore, tac mag, explosive payload and opening shot) over it.
Jesus that cross map throwing knife in to the sniper... 👏...👏...👏
Something to consider. Flux Grenades on Arc Hunter will OHK. So, that AJ and Demo might be something to test.
I've been grinding for that demo junkie roll for weeks now.. or demo osmosis wouldn't be that bad either. still no luck, although what I got is tunnel vision multikill clip and range mw, which I feel like is the best pvp roll. I'm not much of a pvp guy but when its time to get in there, I'll take this baby with me 100%. what a beautiful looking and sounding gun. good vid bro
i love my moving target opening shoot so consisnt, this is proababy the only HC i will use from now...and I'm a pulse main
I’ve got fastdrawl/truesight: tac mag/steady rounds: demo/junkie
I have the "demo-junkie" roll. Feels great, very fun to use. Still looking for two of the other three weapons that can get it because there's only four, not six.
They are:
Judgement, the last breath, corrective measure, and the hothead
I think the mistake that happened for what weapons have the roll, is that the adept versions of corrective and hothead technically count as different weapons in the api, but I don't consider them different because they really aren't
Judgement was the first gun I got from the first encounter with Osmosis and Tunnel Vision which I’ve never used on a HC
I’m sold on this handcannon and I’ve thought of the god roll I’d want, thanks for opening my eyes, I’d want stability masterwork stability sight, steady rounds, slideshot/moving target, with opening shot/timed Payload
I'm so glad I saved my demo/adrenaline roll. Pair that bad boy with nothing manacles and handheld supernova, I'll be the happiest void lock.
I never realized how important the recoil control Stat was on a hc till I got this one. I do highly recommend it
Got my Demo/Junkie roll last night. With the whole ability regeneration nerf right around the corner, that’s one tool you definitely want in your toolbox! Thanks for the heads up and love that new perk breakdown format.
for those of y'all annoyed by the ad-reads.
me too but ridge is legit a rly good wallet, without the inbuilt warrantee I wouldn't have bought it, but the money clip is so strong I use it as a belt clip like 1ce a week and that shit's still holding strong. my only issue is it wears on the print of the cards, but not that seriously tbh
That sneaky knife at 7:15 was so dirty xD love it
DemoJunkie is going to be amazing when the changes happen for PvP. Junkie getting the Swash treatment is going to feel so good on this gun.
Nice cheeky little hide in the stasis crystal to throwing knife kill!
if you're a warlock, get a demolitionist osmosis roll and use it with verity's brow, it'll be your new favorite thing.
You’re so right about this thing. Used mine last week and was wondering why it felt so good
Funny thing……. You mentioned the “Demo-Junkie” roll and me knowing that I have a few for infusion food, decided to check if one of them was that perk combo. Low and behold, I have that combo. 😁
Demolitionist/Payload looks REAL crispy to me with the ability regen nerfs
My boy out here channeling wallah with those throwing knives. Some of those were nasty! Nice job!
I love my slideshot timed payload for pvp
Gonna grind for moving target opening shot to try it
Keep up the awesome content coolguy!
I have a Demo/Payload roll that I have a ton of fun using as my Primary in my Lucky Pants build alongside Eriana's Vow for major melting.
Can roll with Demolitionist and Adrenaline Junkie. I think demo is going to be pretty good with the upcoming ability changes and Adrenaline Junkie is getting a buff. Gun already feels great in my opinion and is farmable.
The most unique roll is Demolitionist and Osmosis. Only other not sunset weapon with these perks is Lat Breath. This unleashes a whole new level of build crafting, especially elemental wells and exotics.
No doubt! I need need need that last breath with armor piercing rounds. So far haven’t even gotten a demo to drop. Bunch of subsistence frenzy ap but nothing close to what I really need for my warlock grenade builds.
timed payload is so much fun on this. fueled my friend and he said the flinch really messed him up
Have to try my build
Demo with adrenaline junkie
Middle tree sunbreak
Ashen wake
Charge with light modes for grande boost
And 100 discipline
This is broken and it only gonna gets better with the new sticky grandes buff
i got really lucky, in just a few clears I got a steadyhand, accurized, slideshot, opening shot, and stability masterwork judgement roll, it's a beast. Fatebringer is great of course but this is another awesome choice
That is so weird I got a wild hair last night and pulled my slide shot time payload judgement out of the vault. I was trying to describe to my friends how easy the recoil is to control. I love it
I have Demo and Junkie and Demo and Osmosis. Been using the Demo Osmosis one on Warlock all season. It’s fantastic.
I just dropped a true sight, accurized, demo opening shot roll with a range mw roll last night and it feels great, very stoked to have this for post patch
I’m loving the weapon review categories. Very useful in sorting rolls for multiple uses and I love that you consider PVE/passive play.
Actually an considering leaving destiny 2 until witch queen or a year after
Great video. HCs like this are so roll dependent. Personally I feel Annual Skate and Finite Impactor have some equally as amazing rolls. My Annual Skate with Tunnel Vision plus Timed Payload is pretty special. My Finite Impactor with Firmly Planted and Eye of the Storm is the best for winning an initial fight. I’m not sure you did justice to some of the possibilities of these, but appreciate how hard it is to get them to try.
I was able to get Demolitionist and Adrenaline Junkie on the The Last Breath but not the Judgement. Back to more grinding I suppose! Great video as always!
My roll has, Hit mark, Accurized rounds, slide-shot, opening shot and a range MW. I got the 2 days ago and have not used it yet
@Coolguy. My friend Crzder099 made in the video @4:06 me and him ran into to U using that judgement .. “Great video “ .. maybe next time I’ll make it in there . Was awesome I had you in 3 or 4 lobby’s of 6s this week GG.
Still looking for Demolitionist and Adrenaline Junkie roll on this thing for a pvp build. When I first saw what the weapon could roll with, I knew I was gonna farm for that roll.
Slideshot opening shot is epic
Demo osmosis is pretty good to if you like elemental well builds. Its the perfect weapon for that.
I’ve got sureshot/crossfire, accurized/steady rounds, demo & adrenaline junkie with a handling masterwork and i cannot wait to experiment with it with the December updates
Still havent gotten this thing to drop
It's strange that you say annual skate doesn't have much going for it. I personally feel the way you do about the judgment with the annual skate. I have a steady hand sight, tact mag, triple tap, timed payload, range masterwork. It is so fat my favorite 140 hand cannon and seems to just be easy to use and vibes so well with me.
I agree with you on the annual skate. It just feels good to shoot. Even with Cantata coming out I still tend to use my annual skate a little more just because I like the way it feels so much. I just wish bungie would retroactively add these origin perks to weapons that came out before witch queen, or even just add the perk to any newly acquired ones. Annual skate with Suros Synergy would be just that much better.