Us older folks aren't eating less because our tastebuds don't work or it's hard to chew (8:10), it's because our metabolism slows down dramatically. I can only consume 1/3 the calories I ate when younger if or I'll gain weight. There's no way I could consume the amount of protein recommended here
The metabolic slowdown i associated with age s more related to people getting more sedentary than anything else. We sit more and move less,so we lose more muscle mass,so we sit more and move less.
The metabolic slowdown i associated with age s more related to people getting more sedentary than anything else. We sit more and move less,so we lose more muscle mass,so we sit more and move less.
crockpot is good for getting larger amounts of meat down. I agree steaks are overrated as cuts of meat unless you go to somewhere fancy like fleming's, which is very expensive.
I love BBQing my own steaks but I eat cheaper meat like hamburger to save money since the price skyrocketed in 2020+ Right now I'm watching this eating a pellet smoked Brisket. After trimming off the fat it costs about $5.50 per pound.
Or just learn how to cook your own steaks at home. It's not that hard, plenty of TH-cam videos to show you what to buy (and how to save money) and how to cook them to be steakhouse quality
I'm so confused.... protein triggers MTOR which is very bad for you long term... yet we want MORE protein to prevent muscle loss with aging. How can we have both????
Hi Ken. From what I can tell you should pay attention to the difference between taking protein in big chunks versus constantly triggering mTOR signals. It is very beneficial to take high amounts of protein in your diet. Just don't trigger mTOR response "every 30 mins" and you should be fine. Peter Attia discusses exactly that in this video: th-cam.com/video/A6FY4oaxcm0/w-d-xo.html
Agree. It's conflicting. I lean toward muscle mass (lean muscle mass) in my early 50s. I am going with strong, nimble, capable, still doing weighted pullups, dips, 2 x BW squats, etc. . I guess I am going for quality of life rather than withered beanpole skinny fat and living in a nursing home or unable to bend over, play with grandkids, rock climb, do yard work, etc. I see coworkers my age unable to barely walk up stairs. Not judging, but deciding my own quality of life.
Dr Schoenfeld is relating protein for hypertrophy. Which infers he's discussing protein needs for fit people who lift for hypertrophy. That type of individual is going to have generally a longer life span because they are fit and active.
I don't fool around with kilograms so basically you are saying 2 grams of protein for every pound you weigh? Is that total weight or is that lean mass? Thank you.
It’s 1g protein per pound of body weight is correct. 2g per lb is WAAAY too high. If you weighed 200 lb you be looking at 400g A DAY!! You’d be bankrupt and eating 24/7
@@texaspete7748 Its not hard at all to consume 400 grams per day if you are working out reasonably hard. 400 grams of protein is only 1600 calories. Athletes commonly eat over 5,000 calories per day very.
Protein is NOT at all difficult to convert to bodyfat. If I ate nothing but solid lean meat until I was no longer hungry I would weigh 400lbs. Protein is far more satiating than carbs but I wish people would stop perpetuating the ridiculous myth that you can't over consume protein.
Once again Brad slightly bends the truth. You may need UP TO 1.6-1.8 g pr kg. That is if you train for the olympics or tour de france. Its not a minimum but a maximum. You average gymgoer which is 99% of people watching will not need anywhere near that.
Us older folks aren't eating less because our tastebuds don't work or it's hard to chew (8:10), it's because our metabolism slows down dramatically. I can only consume 1/3 the calories I ate when younger if or I'll gain weight. There's no way I could consume the amount of protein recommended here
The metabolic slowdown i associated with age s more related to people getting more sedentary than anything else. We sit more and move less,so we lose more muscle mass,so we sit more and move less.
The metabolic slowdown i associated with age s more related to people getting more sedentary than anything else. We sit more and move less,so we lose more muscle mass,so we sit more and move less.
that may apply to many people, but in my case I am exercising more, not less, than when I was in my 30s and 40s@@kakefisk
@@nubbystumps6774Working out more but eating less? Likely tracking or memory issue then.
well i've kept a spreadsheet etailing my exercise since 1988@@kakefisk
So valuable! Thank you!
crockpot is good for getting larger amounts of meat down. I agree steaks are overrated as cuts of meat unless you go to somewhere fancy like fleming's, which is very expensive.
I love BBQing my own steaks but I eat cheaper meat like hamburger to save money since the price skyrocketed in 2020+ Right now I'm watching this eating a pellet smoked Brisket. After trimming off the fat it costs about $5.50 per pound.
The fat is the best part though. I do brisket all the time. Use the rendered fat for the dogs, cooking baking and frying.@@hikerJohn
Absolutely . . . And I found out you can render it in a fraction of the time in a microwave @@LTPottenger
Or just learn how to cook your own steaks at home. It's not that hard, plenty of TH-cam videos to show you what to buy (and how to save money) and how to cook them to be steakhouse quality
Dr. Patrick. Awesome session. Please address question below from @Ken Otwell.
I'm so confused.... protein triggers MTOR which is very bad for you long term... yet we want MORE protein to prevent muscle loss with aging. How can we have both????
mtor is either on or off. It only goes off when you have zero protein. Only fasting can trigger it completely.
That’s a very good question
Hi Ken. From what I can tell you should pay attention to the difference between taking protein in big chunks versus constantly triggering mTOR signals.
It is very beneficial to take high amounts of protein in your diet. Just don't trigger mTOR response "every 30 mins" and you should be fine.
Peter Attia discusses exactly that in this video: th-cam.com/video/A6FY4oaxcm0/w-d-xo.html
@@Luica1 thanks! Going to watch that now.
Agree. It's conflicting. I lean toward muscle mass (lean muscle mass) in my early 50s. I am going with strong, nimble, capable, still doing weighted pullups, dips, 2 x BW squats, etc. . I guess I am going for quality of life rather than withered beanpole skinny fat and living in a nursing home or unable to bend over, play with grandkids, rock climb, do yard work, etc. I see coworkers my age unable to barely walk up stairs. Not judging, but deciding my own quality of life.
A bit surprising that Rhonda didn't mention Walter Longo's work suggesting that high protein intakes stimulate accelerated aging via MTOR
Dr Schoenfeld is relating protein for hypertrophy. Which infers he's discussing protein needs for fit people who lift for hypertrophy. That type of individual is going to have generally a longer life span because they are fit and active.
I don't fool around with kilograms so basically you are saying 2 grams of protein for every pound you weigh? Is that total weight or is that lean mass? Thank you.
Lean, I believe he said in a prior vid
It’s 1g protein per pound of body weight is correct.
2g per lb is WAAAY too high. If you weighed 200 lb you be looking at 400g A DAY!! You’d be bankrupt and eating 24/7
@@texaspete7748 Its not hard at all to consume 400 grams per day if you are working out reasonably hard. 400 grams of protein is only 1600 calories. Athletes commonly eat over 5,000 calories per day very.
I'm not convinced you even need a 1/3 of the recommended protein here, as Mike Mentzer so aptly showed.
Vitamin S reduces protein needs, according to Mike Israetel.
@@bp56789 Vitamin S?
@@jbol2454 Roids
Have read and used all the MM advice for years however, at least be open to more advanced research and test on yourself like Dorian Yates
he was on some serious gear and a genetic freak
You ONLY FEED, your LEAN BODY MASS and not your BODY WEIGHT.
Not really,no. The body is made of more than just lean mass,and that stuff needs maintenance too.
KISS. eat roughly 1 gram per pound and you cover all your bases. No need to overthink and over analyze.
what if urine is foamy,,,
wat
Cancer. Sorry bro
Peeing too hard or too much protein
Just do a urine test and u will know whats up
just go x2 your body weight a day, literally nothing to lose
200gr protein for me baby
Protein is NOT at all difficult to convert to bodyfat. If I ate nothing but solid lean meat until I was no longer hungry I would weigh 400lbs. Protein is far more satiating than carbs but I wish people would stop perpetuating the ridiculous myth that you can't over consume protein.
You want expert advice on protein -go seek out Lyle McDonald
Speak English. Tell us kilograms per pound. Assimilate.
Once again Brad slightly bends the truth. You may need UP TO 1.6-1.8 g pr kg. That is if you train for the olympics or tour de france. Its not a minimum but a maximum. You average gymgoer which is 99% of people watching will not need anywhere near that.
Almost lost me as you acknowledged the misconception of big ag pulling us away from meat. Meat is dominant