Rivarossi Docksider: A Plucky Survivor
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ม.ค. 2024
- One of the most underappreciated vintage HO steamers is a personal favorite of mine. Note that this review only applies to this specific Rivarossi model - not the saddle-tank version, not Life-Like and Tyco's crappy imitations, and not even Rivarossi's own similar but smaller 0-4-0 model. The good ones can be identified by their fully operational Walschaerts valve gear.
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next upload: 10 years from now
I'll be old and grey lol
@@michaelramsey81 id be 4 morbillion years young
Definitely one of the better smaller 0-4-0s from the old era of model trains ,they still hold up today
Perfect wheel quartering as there is absolutely no wobble as it's going down the track. Cheers from eastern TN
Yep - better than a lot of my Bachmann locomotives!
Amazing! Just I wish you could upload more you’re videos always bring me joy when I watch them
Always great when Michael uploads! Also I’ve got one of these and hopefully I can also get it up to speed! Well done as usual, my friend!
Thanks! The motor swap was really the key to making it run well.
More of an issue with these old ones, is getting it *down* to speed.
@@robertmyers5269 Definitely. The IHC motor holds a slow speed much better than the original Rivarossi motor. I think a modern 5-pole motor would be even better.
Nice running little loco! Love the valve gear and smooth running. Very nice layout, too!
the newer Riva 0-4-0's are not nearly as detailed..you did a great job on the extra detail, i'd like to see that process...loved the drive thru movie scenery, nice layout..
Nice to see you uploading! I adore the older Rivarossi models, as I've found that the larger locomotives like the Berkshire and FEF (and Big Boy) can run extraordinarily smooth for their age. Plus, they have what is in my opinion the best tender pickup connection ever, without any need for finicky wires that get in the way when you're trying to separate the engine and tender for storage. Seeing this little guy get some upgrades it deserves puts a smile on my face.
Wonderful work good sir, hope to see more in the future!
The y6b they make is great, I have one and it’s one of the smoothest running engines I own. Eventually I’m going to get a new motor and a dcc decoder for it.
@@shaqtus3365 Funny enough, I also have one of their Y6B's. Unfortunately something happened to the original tender pickup connection and the previous owner had to jury rig a new one that hasn't exactly proven to work that well.
Luckily I didn't pay much for it, not even half the going price. I'll get around to fixing it eventually, but for now I've got other train projects that are more important.
@@TitanicKid now I’m thinking I might have to start buying some old Rivarossi models! I mainly model UK trains/railway, but I do have a bit of American stuff and want to do a project with that stuff eventually.
Old Rivarossis can be pretty decent runners. The main weak point, in my experience, is the factory motors - they seem to be very prone to burning out. The actual mechanisms are quite solid and reliable.
I was just thinking the other night that I missed seeing your updates. Glad to see you again whenever you do turn up.
I almost bought one of these little doots at the last train show I went to; it wasn't in the best shape, but it was a runner. Sadly, by the time I was ready to pull the trigger someone else had gotten to it first.
Michael. I enjoy your channel immensely and refer back to a number of your videos when performing my own maintenance and rebuilds. Thanks!
I believe the original Dockside (not Docksider) was a cast metal model sold by Varney. Also, I've never seen anything other than the saddle tanker referred to as a Dockside.
Thanks again for your videos. Happy Tracks!
Thats a cool little loco and your layout looks really good too. I had several of the Life-Like saddle tank ones growing up.
Maybe your postings are infrequent, but they are good, interesting, and informative. I also enjoy how you don't fear altering stock engines to make them more detailed/better running.
I'm glad you enjoy them! I did run everything stock for a long time before I started this layout, but once I got good at repairing and modifying stuff, I started to see the flaws in every factory model, and a lot of them were easy enough to fix. I also enjoy having unique rolling stock that doesn't look like every other mass-produced model out there - I think it gives it more character, and it feels more like an actual railroad.
And for me, none of my passenger equipment is off the shelf, plug and play. I like to run milk trains of the Delaware, Lackawanna and Western. All my steamers are IHC's with cosmetic mods and my 'Boonton' coaches are polyester craftsman kits.
Incidentally, one of your previous videos, with comments turned off, sent me down a rabbit hole to find coaches with which I could model Lackawanna passenger trains from the early 1900's. Thank you for that too. I think it was the one where you repainted the coaches. I found them. @@michaelramsey81
I also have one - and also an original Varney 'Little Joe' . I think it's fair to say that these two littler switchers may hold the record for the number of models produced, compared to the number of prototypes. Just about every rtr (and some kit) manufacturer has produced them, in every scale from O gauhe, down through S, HO, to N. And for all I know, there may even have been 1 gauge and TT gauge versions too.
Funny story I actually had one of these running on my layout, it never worked the best so I just decided to put it on display. I might try to restore it one day, but for now it looks good where it is.
Cheers Jasper & Willow
I have six of these little gems. I have them re-motored as well, but i used small core-less can motors . Because of the small size of the motors, i was able to use the backhead details from old plastic static model locomotives to add detail to the cabs and added flooring and seats.
That’s a good idea! Those little coreless motors run well too, and they hardly take up any space!
@@modelrailfan37 Precisely!. I have made it a necessary thing to do to all of my smaller locomotives now.
@@WWIIREBEL I’m still yet to make the upgrades but I certainly will!! I mainly have British locos so a lot of mine are smaller, and a few of my Hornby locos could do with a motor swap
I’ve got lots of these old switchers, they are great!!!! Nice channel, I subscribed!
A wonderful little engine Michael.Captain Kirk seemed very impressed aswell😁
Excellent work my friend!
Love seeing new content from you. Really one of my favorite channels.
What was your process for grinding down the big Rivarossi flanges? I want to try this but am a little afraid.
I hooked up power to the motor to spin the wheels and used a Dremel with a grinding wheel to gradually shave the flanges down. It's definitely not for the faint of heart, but if you're careful, you can get good results.
Great video like always :)
I have a pre-war varney docksider. It's an amazing quality engone and id love to get the Rivarossi version with a tender to have both configurations of the C16.
I've never had a Varney loco. Always thought their 2-8-0 was kind of neat. Maybe I'll get one someday.
@@michaelramsey81 I have the 4-6-0 “Casey Jones” locomotive and I’ve heard the 2-8-0 is great as well. One thing you have to look out for is zinc rot. When I got it the tender was completely crumbled. The motors they may not be the strongest or quietest, but they are tough. Mine ran with one of the pulls completely disconnected, idk how. I got lucky with finding the dockside looking for projects and parts for the 4-6-0 funny enough. It was in a bag missing parts and had a cracked mount for the brushes and the person who had it before me had half built it so I took it home for $15 and build it along with making some replacement parts out of a sheet of plastic.
B&O had them from Baldwin for the Pratt St. Line
I love these little engines I have I think three getting ready to convert the Baltimore and Ohio one to DCC
Very nice,great for a small switching layout? As Hornby now own Rivarossi if the moulds still exist i wonder if ??????????
That would be interesting if they do. I believe their current Big Boy model that they sell is a heavily modified version of the old tooling, so maybe??? It would make a terrific beginners model if they still have the tooling!
Looking food. Love your station. Did you build it from the old article in MR? I have wanted to build one too.
Please make a video on how you do custom paint jobs for HO steam engines?
I covered most of it in my "Decorating an HO Steam Locomotive" video.
Could you do a vudeo on all your locomotives at some point? You've covered alot of them but also hsvent covered alot of them
I'm slowly working my way through my collection.
Very nice. I have recently picked one of these up. Mine is bone stock, but I worked on it to bring it back to being in like-new condition and runs well. How did you grind down the flanges?
I hooked up power to spin the wheels and used a Dremel tool to gradually shave down the flanges. It helps to have another wheelset to compare to, so you don't take too much material off.
I had that one but was a little damaged on front
Please share your secrets on how to gri d the wheel flanges down! Ive got a y6b rivarossi with the pizza cutters and id like to run it on code 100 track
I'll have to make a video on it! Didn't expect people to be that interested. The basic technique was just to hook up power to spin the wheels slowly and use a Dremel to carefully grind down the flanges.
@michaelramsey81 awesome, That definitely would be appreciated!
@@bear470 It'll probably be a while, but next time I get an older Rivarossi loco, I'll be sure to film the process.
Did that one start out with a molded on front coupler? - and cool music on the running shots!
Yes, it had a molded front coupler originally. I forgot to mention it in the video, but I drilled out the coupler pocket and glued a Bachmann E-Z Mate coupler into it.
@@michaelramsey81 I have a Riv USRA 0-6-0 that has a molded on front coupler. Been working off and on trying to carve out space for a Kadee box to mount one on the front. Not an easy task.
@@PetesPrettyGoodTrains For front couplers, I don't usually bother trying to mount an actual box. I just glue it in place. It doesn't swing back and forth, but it seems to work fine.
Hey Michale, if you had a manually operated turntable could you still have a way to turn on connection to each stall so you can still have multiple DC engines on the layout?
Yes, the power supply to the tracks is independent of the turntable mechanism.
Hey Mike what type of foam is better for the base of model railroading styrofoam, or xps foam?
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By the turntable that red locomotive looks like an athearn 2-8-0. Could you make a video about it? It looks very interesting and making a tutorial or demonstration video on painting would be very helpful
It is an Athearn 2-8-0, backdated and custom painted. I wish I'd filmed the painting process, but I didn't. I could do a video on it though.
@@michaelramsey81 either way you don’t have to. I’ve just been looking for new paint methods and other ways to backdate models. Thanks a lot though for the reply!
How did you grind down the pizza cutter flanges? I’ve a few that could do with this treatment. Cheers.
I hooked up power to the motor to spin the wheels and used a Dremel with a grinding wheel to gently shave down the flanges, switching between wheels frequently to make sure I made them all match.
That would make a great how to video. Thanks.
I've read that book!
Finally an upload! hey I have a question I’m stuck deciding what to get for my birthday an n scale 4-6-0 I found on. Pats trains or a bachmann n scale 2-8-0 on TRAINZ. I’m not sure think you can help me decide?
The 2-8-0 is probably a safer bet. I had one of the 4-6-0s a long time ago and had issues with the traction tires coming off repeatedly. That said, it was a really nice runner and a beautiful little model. The 2-8-0 has been around longer and is a very sturdy and reliable loco (and a very strong puller). Some of the older ones run a little rough, but they can usually be nursed back to health with a good cleaning and lubrication.
@@michaelramsey81 thanks for the help mike i think I’m getting the 2-8-0, mabey in the future if I get the 1800s 4-6-0 and use the shell of their earlier model I can kitbash it to look like a modernized 1890s engine
Update: I decided to get the 2-8-0 and it’s amazing smooth runner that just needs some oil work. The only promblem is that my example had a micro trains coupler, which broke in shipping, should I just glue it back or replace it?
@@TheTransportationFanfromCA Nice! I would replace the coupler if you can - if you glue it, it most likely won't be able to move enough to automatically couple anymore, and glue also tends not to hold very well to the slippery plastic they're made of.
@@michaelramsey81 I’ve looked at the box and they super glued it, is there a way to loosen the glue?
Of all the Bachman trains, which one do you recommend I buy?
I think the 2-8-0 is probably the best out of the box.
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Nice mods @ 😊
Nice to finally see this, I’ve been looking forward to this a lot! The old Riverossi’s are quite good for their time!!
Also, I see your Athearn 2-8-0 now looks completely different, and nice as well! The music you used in this is very nice as well!! Are you planning on renumbering/lettering this for the W&SC?
We all dream for a 12.99 steam engine 😂
I mean good!
These are like $10 at shows I really hope this video doesn't drive up the price.....
Wow, really? I paid $50 for this one on eBay.
@@michaelramsey81 that's ebay everything is like 60% cheaper at shows
If I see one for that price I’ll be sure to get it! That’s terrific!!