Kimberly's Dad Tells Her To CALL OFF The Wedding!

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  • @michaeladove7269
    @michaeladove7269 ปีที่แล้ว +225

    TJ hasn't even told Kim that after getting married, she's supposed to do all cooking and cleaning for their huge family. 🤣

    • @michaeladove7269
      @michaeladove7269 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@deelaljee9176 Kim is not an old-fashioned woman. She didn't know anything about what's normal in India.
      She doesn't know about having to be a baby-producer and maid for ALL days, EVERY day.
      Also the mom didn't take Yash's side. The day before that was when Kim went crazy about their apartment and TJ went downstairs, cried, complained and slept there.
      That's when the mom was like WTH is going on with her rude behavior. It's ok, they're all watching the episodes now and will see how much Kim is lying.
      Don't worry though, by now TJ and Kim have moved away to another house.

    • @sarahabraham4610
      @sarahabraham4610 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@deelaljee9176TJ himself said that her doing all the cooking and cleaning for the entire family was the expectation and he hasn’t told her because he knows she wouldn’t go for it. He hopes after the wedding she will be willing to.That is the expectation of conservative multi generational Indian families.

    • @deelaljee9176
      @deelaljee9176 ปีที่แล้ว

      @michaeladove7269 Kim has nothing going for her in life. No education, career, etc. Isn't having a baby and starting a family part of marriage? Isn't the homemaking part of marriage? She is fortunate that someone wants to marry her and keep her. Again, I doubt the family wants her to care for them. So did they get married and move to another city?

    • @deelaljee9176
      @deelaljee9176 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @sarahabraham4610 It's not going to happen. There is too much friction between her and the family.

    • @albertfinney1328
      @albertfinney1328 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@deelaljee9176 So, not a big thing. You've done this then, been solely responsible. NOT ALLOW HER. Joking, RIGHT? It is the EXPECTATION. Her life can be in the sink and the toilet and the keys thrown away. What a fulfilling and exciting life.

  • @melt2947
    @melt2947 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    She’s a brat, he’s a liar. Go home, Kimberly

    • @saammy99
      @saammy99 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Lol sums it up perfectly. Not people in the comments forgetting that she’s just as disrespectful as Yash

    • @amaracrow0501
      @amaracrow0501 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Preach🙌

    • @petercushing72
      @petercushing72 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@saammy99and to be fair, people in India generally (no not everyone) is fairly direct in expressing themselves. I lived there for quite a while and you learn to roll with the punches.

    • @lukaprimozic2361
      @lukaprimozic2361 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      She is! And she doesn't accept his culture.

    • @erikahirt5594
      @erikahirt5594 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Simple as that … perfectly said

  • @tonyhanley9458
    @tonyhanley9458 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Time will never fix this problem, it’s culture.

  • @crazyonebyfar
    @crazyonebyfar ปีที่แล้ว +202

    Honestly, TJ brought all of this on himself. Sure Kim is another american brat that didn't do her research; but he's been the one pushing for them to live right above his family and he was the one who (literally) ran down stairs to cry bout his first fight with Kimberly. Obviously his parents are gonna have their own opinion about her now

    • @EzraMerr
      @EzraMerr ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, she'd be happier going to Cambodia as an English teacher with him and saving $3000 a month combined living together, some people haven't got that mindset they stick with shit and stay shitty

    • @Sinsteel
      @Sinsteel ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Everything is made much harder that they are expected to live with his parents...however she doesn't even know that she's expected to become an Indian-style housewife and I believe that includes taking care of his elderly parents.

    • @macbbyy1978
      @macbbyy1978 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This is all her fault she should of done her research on Indian culture that’s her fault not his at all

    • @Sarah-qx4vz
      @Sarah-qx4vz ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@macbbyy1978agreed. And if you’re entering another country, abide by their rules and culture. Thats how I feel about foreigners in the US. Either learn English and our culture or gtfo.
      She shows no respect to their culture.

    • @joywebster2678
      @joywebster2678 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did they not watch Jenny and Sumits story?

  • @LuzMartinez-if1dw
    @LuzMartinez-if1dw ปีที่แล้ว +134

    She failed to tell her family that she told Tjs brother that she doesn’t want to live with the family and she hates them , she put the wedge there herself😂

    • @westbrook3371
      @westbrook3371 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Agree 100%

    • @ThePoptartjunkie
      @ThePoptartjunkie ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Exactly. I hope they’re watching the show

    • @callmefeckers9870
      @callmefeckers9870 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Agreed but I think she likes to be a victim

    • @ajheartsong
      @ajheartsong ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Right she could’ve at least said I’m not playing the role of a submissive Indian wife and the brother is bothered by that, wouldn’t have been the whole truth but more accurate than what she said 😅

    • @Mwright-tl3bp
      @Mwright-tl3bp ปีที่แล้ว +5

      She is not a very honest person on any level, definitely not a medium,not a seer ,no psychic skills at all!

  • @evabenitez4004
    @evabenitez4004 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Being that she’s clairvoyant, how did she not see this coming?

  • @pochi4627
    @pochi4627 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    her saying don't touch me isn't necessarily implying he's trying to touch her in a sexual way... no one would want to be physically contacted by the person they're having an argument with, regardless of the person being same sex or not

    • @PoeticPeer
      @PoeticPeer ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It's also extremely unusual for a man to touch a woman here. My brother in law would NEVER. Male family members keep their distance as a sign of respect

    • @ShrodingersHat
      @ShrodingersHat ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Agreed, when I'm really angry or upset I don't want anyone touching me either ((not even a pat on the back or taking home of my hand)) I can't explain why but it's just the thought of them putting their hands on me during those times drives me absolutely mad, it's almost like a sensory overload while I'm already overloaded by emotion.

    • @evanjuleen
      @evanjuleen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShrodingersHat 😮I feel this too. I never had words for it!

    • @cathyincolorado1432
      @cathyincolorado1432 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The brother was fueling the fire when TJ wanted him to say goodbye to Kim and he started the whole "she doesn't want me touching her " crap. And she was right, he doesn't need to touch her to talk to her.

    • @jazzyj6640
      @jazzyj6640 ปีที่แล้ว

      I understand. Too bad American men don't respect women's bodies. 😒

  • @gattomao
    @gattomao ปีที่แล้ว +124

    I think the only way they could be happy together is if they would move away from the family.

    • @julietteoscaralphanovember2223
      @julietteoscaralphanovember2223 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I agree

    • @reganwolf4405
      @reganwolf4405 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      No they will not be happy. Because he is not open and Honest about a lot of stuff that happend with her and his familie.

    • @gattomao
      @gattomao ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@reganwolf4405 you're right, I still think they could make it if they both put in a lot of work and learn to properly communicate. Will that happen? I doubt it.

    • @Bbydawl
      @Bbydawl ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They’ll need more than that. Family issues need to be resolved or they’ll keep popping up over the years.

    • @h0t_pock3t
      @h0t_pock3t ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And if Kimberly stops blowing up on him over minimal things. I think she's way too heartless to do that though.

  • @imadaughterofzion5115
    @imadaughterofzion5115 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    This girl is a black cloud….look how Tj looks so old and stressed…she should go

  • @annnnne
    @annnnne ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Some things are not cultural. Some people are just assholes.

    • @albertfinney1328
      @albertfinney1328 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Fave response of the day. BANG ON. In this case both are indicated.

    • @iscandaritv257
      @iscandaritv257 ปีที่แล้ว

      you are right she is an asshole trying to love a man and doesn't want to follow the culture.

    • @sweetanila26
      @sweetanila26 ปีที่แล้ว

      😅 exactly

    • @evanjuleen
      @evanjuleen ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yup, this isn't a cultural thing. Steven crowder is a huge American youtuber who did this same subservient maid thing to his wife last month.

  • @Kate-ue4kh
    @Kate-ue4kh ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I can’t understand why people hide stuff before marriage. It’s not like the stone age that people would live together good or bad. Even after marriage if one get to something that would’ve break up before wedding if knew it, they get divorce. So what’s the point to hide it until then? At least one can prevent lots of heartaches and wasting money..,

    • @yesitsdenise7525
      @yesitsdenise7525 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s not like the stone age that people would live together good or bad, aw thats sad. marriage is supposed to be thru good and bad :( but I know it's not like that

    • @albertfinney1328
      @albertfinney1328 ปีที่แล้ว

      Peter Peter Pumpkin eater couldn't keep her, put her in a pumpkin shell and there he kept her very well. No care from TJ. Idiot thinks she will do as told once ensconced--imprisoned, he seems to think, there. VAIN hope indeed. She's a wild cat and no intent to be incarcerated or enslaved.

    • @albertfinney1328
      @albertfinney1328 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yesitsdenise7525 All bad, either way is good for no one.

    • @albertfinney1328
      @albertfinney1328 ปีที่แล้ว

      @julia-xd8vo Where it can be applied it likely still is.

  • @laurenr9659
    @laurenr9659 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I don't understand Kim saying that she and TJ don't have any issues. They've been arguing non-stop since before she even arrived in India for the second time. Before this blow up with his family.

    • @ajheartsong
      @ajheartsong ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Right! Is this what no issues looks like girl 😂

    • @albertfinney1328
      @albertfinney1328 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just delusional and blaming instead of accepting responsibility for her idiotic choice. Soul mate. If that's the case spare us all from such a fate.

  • @debbieangel9376
    @debbieangel9376 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The men and woman in 90 Days always say the other person is "The love of my life" even if they've known each other for 2 seconds flat. I can't, it's almost childish

  • @seawhorse9866
    @seawhorse9866 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    She put herself in that situation when she said she didn’t like the family she didn’t like living with them, and she hated the country

    • @deelaljee9176
      @deelaljee9176 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      True. She came with attitude and instigated a flame. Unfortunately, the brother chose to retaliate.

    • @iscandaritv257
      @iscandaritv257 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeap modern women keep thinking the guys overseas will deal with them trying to be in control will never happen.

    • @Margriet101
      @Margriet101 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The family was so nice to her, she came in like a American buffalo, no respect only to much for herself, i feel sorry for the mom.

    • @william46199
      @william46199 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree with yu

    • @bigwoogc
      @bigwoogc ปีที่แล้ว +4

      She also told TJ his culture is totally sexist. Whether true or not, if she feels all these things she'd be doing everyone a favor by calling off the wedding and going home.

  • @aissaissbby
    @aissaissbby ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Almost no one on these shows calls off the wedding. She’ll marry him and live miserably and we’ll all have to watch them on 2 more season of The Other Way and then maybe Happily Ever After.

    • @tartinomiel
      @tartinomiel ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If ever she learned hindi...

    • @StarlaBizarre
      @StarlaBizarre ปีที่แล้ว

      Lucky us!!

    • @joanngoldenburg5460
      @joanngoldenburg5460 ปีที่แล้ว

      Makes for good TV... You just have to lower the volume when she starts screaming! She acts like a six year old, having a temper tantrum.

  • @sugarplum2467
    @sugarplum2467 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    At the end of the day if you want an Indian wife then get an Indian wife. Don't go for an American woman if you wanna live with mommy and daddy in your 40s.

    • @evanjuleen
      @evanjuleen ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Amen.

    • @disturbed0insane
      @disturbed0insane ปีที่แล้ว

      That's why you all are so mentally sick. You have no support system whatsoever and your elders die alone in old age homes.

  • @VivaLaVida202
    @VivaLaVida202 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    She really should get on the plane with her parents 😮

  • @Ivy_Lee
    @Ivy_Lee ปีที่แล้ว +63

    The fact that she introduced herself as this empathetic clairvoyant person and is so rude, entitled and a grown ass baby that clearly needs to be at home def not in India annoying this family

    • @albertfinney1328
      @albertfinney1328 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And visa versa.

    • @Ivy_Lee
      @Ivy_Lee ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@albertfinney1328 not really no

    • @Shadow666_
      @Shadow666_ ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunatly America is pumping people like her out like its a factory.

    • @justinthomas5512
      @justinthomas5512 ปีที่แล้ว

      She is a spoiled baby brat pretty much

    • @komalsharma2472
      @komalsharma2472 ปีที่แล้ว

      no. i am indian and this family is toxic. i’m so over non indians defending this shit. no desi woman would defend this as our moms suffered this bullshit. stop making it normal for my culture to abuse their women. our mothers all went through men with families like this and suffered and told us to never put up with it. which is why his brother is single and he is with an american not an indian

  • @hengelv
    @hengelv ปีที่แล้ว +439

    Does anyone else feel like the younger brother is acting up out of jealousy?

    • @Sashenka979
      @Sashenka979 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jealous of what! He wants to marry entitled spoiled brat that makes everyone miserable. She’s not even good looking

    • @suburbcinderella
      @suburbcinderella ปีที่แล้ว +90

      I do....he's upset she said she don't want him touching her...he's liking to tease n touch her....that or he's upset there's a new queen in the family other then him 😂

    • @davicool4284
      @davicool4284 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      I do too... He wants to sing his own "white woman seranade"

    • @laurenr9659
      @laurenr9659 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Yes! I've been saying this. He is absolutely envious of TJ.

    • @chandaniberry9369
      @chandaniberry9369 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Yes! Yes! Yes!. I am sure he is very attracted to Kimberly. He is waiting for Kimberly to break up with TJ so he could propose to her 😂😂😂

  • @Messxii
    @Messxii ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Bro deep down when she seen dad she felt saved her wall came down instantly and all her true emotions poured out she obviously has a great dad I’m happy he’s there for her she’s no angel but she’s his daughter ❤

    • @albertfinney1328
      @albertfinney1328 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Really good. She's been exposed to some trauma and he's step dad, a very good one.

    • @akaLaBrujaRoja
      @akaLaBrujaRoja ปีที่แล้ว

      @@albertfinney1328that’s her real dad, his wife is her step-mom.

    • @cathyincolorado1432
      @cathyincolorado1432 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@albertfinney1328Her dad is cool so is the step mom.

    • @albertfinney1328
      @albertfinney1328 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cathyincolorado1432 Cool and wise. They are in a dreadful position. I doubt any parent wold want to see their child marry half way across the world and worse saying all's not well. Wise to say postpone not forget it.

  • @Grannysbaby81
    @Grannysbaby81 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    6:27 Her mouth is too vulgar!!! Her true self came out right there; she tried to act like (to him) his brother was the only one being nasty that day

  • @worlddomination92
    @worlddomination92 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    It's almost as if rushing a marriage before you find out if your even compatible as a family and with family is not a good idea...

    • @cathyincolorado1432
      @cathyincolorado1432 ปีที่แล้ว

      @worlddomination92 Ya think!!😂

    • @indianindubai24
      @indianindubai24 ปีที่แล้ว

      He doesn’t wan2 loose her. He wants to build a relationship through lies and fake promises. Once she s married it wil be miserable life forever . Married to someone like this. They lie before marriage and expect u to adjust to a miserable life without any companionship, and drama of in laws .

  • @kenterminateddq5311
    @kenterminateddq5311 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    When both parents/families don't want TJ and Kim get married, should they continue the wedding?
    IMO, I don't think they should since they bring out the worst on each other, especially formerly happy-go-lucky Kimberly.

  • @michelleallred8521
    @michelleallred8521 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    There's no way she should marry him unless its in the US bc his family will constantly be in their business. They gripe about respect but don't give her ANY.

  • @beatriceaba8851
    @beatriceaba8851 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It’s abundantly clear that the mother is in control of everything in that household, to the point that is weird. It’s also odd how both sides are ignorant to each others culture.

    • @TruthSlayer1
      @TruthSlayer1 ปีที่แล้ว

      why should she care for his culture when he doesn't care anything for his OWN culture? Indian people don't marry white woman, THAT isn't part of our culture... when don't marry outside of our own religion, THAT isn't part of our culture... we don't marry outside of caste, THAT isn't part of our culture... heck even his fake name "TJ" isn't part of Indian culture, his name is "Tejaswi"... this guy wants his green card cake and eat it too...

  • @evanjuleen
    @evanjuleen ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Everyone is so quick to forget all the horrible things he's done as soon as she raises her voice.

  • @stephanieclark1487
    @stephanieclark1487 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He’s a grown man that was still sleeping in the same bed with his mother. That should’ve been all the red flag she needed.

  • @Vudux
    @Vudux ปีที่แล้ว +21

    When u marry a Indian man you marry the family as well smh should of married a American Indian

    • @albertfinney1328
      @albertfinney1328 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      An American Indian woman wouldn't want him either. Maybe forced to, but WANT to? Don't think likely.

    • @SpicyPlur
      @SpicyPlur ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For real, there is such a difference between Indian and American Indian

    • @Weadessewell
      @Weadessewell ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don’t think they meant Native American. I think they meant an Indian woman that was raised in the US. Correct me if I’m wrong.

    • @akaLaBrujaRoja
      @akaLaBrujaRoja ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WeadessewellI don’t think anyone meant a Native American woman, she’d kick TJ’s and Yash’s behinds if they treated her like they treat Kim.

  • @planbrent
    @planbrent ปีที่แล้ว +39

    She is incompetent, and hes a manipulative bad actor, but her trying to help in his momemt of stress, and him defending her to his family is what keeps a toxic relationship going for years.

    • @debbieangel9376
      @debbieangel9376 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @planbrent Gosh you said it well💯

  • @Sunny-tc3ul
    @Sunny-tc3ul ปีที่แล้ว +37

    If a family doesn’t like you why stay for the abuse? This is emotional and mental abuse. Kimberly needs to leave with her peace and sanity while it’s still intact.

    • @ratpitt4292
      @ratpitt4292 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      For real. Why just why are people willing to do this to themselves? One can choose happiness but these people actively choose being miserable.

    • @cathyincolorado1432
      @cathyincolorado1432 ปีที่แล้ว

      They'd have a chance if they moved out but since he took out a loan for that low budget apartment he won't leave. He mad such a bid deal out taking out a 7 yr loan for it, it makes me think it's not normal there to take out a loan.

  • @primadonna2819
    @primadonna2819 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Kimberly needs to spare herself the headache and a life of misery with all their stupid rules, and run from that place as far away as she can.

  • @n5brown
    @n5brown ปีที่แล้ว +48

    For someone who grew up in a toxic environment she sure is doing her best to create one!
    She lacks respect and cares nothing for culture.

    • @ms.michaud8866
      @ms.michaud8866 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      She is very good at creating chaos and then trying to convince us that she is the victim🚩

    • @Margriet101
      @Margriet101 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I did not like her "dont touch me!" When the guy was just trying to be amicale. To me she is just overdramtic

    • @deelaljee9176
      @deelaljee9176 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Margriet101 She keeps it going, refusing to back down.

    • @extemporaneous4545
      @extemporaneous4545 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      She's repeating old family patterns mindlessly. She doesn't have the EQ to unlearn them and learn something new.

    • @DesertBluebells
      @DesertBluebells ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She has NO business entering a traditional Indian family. NONE.

  • @ccb6013
    @ccb6013 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Even _if_ they do get married; TJ having to constantly choose between his new wife and his family is going to put a huge strain on their relationship, the likes of which they are probably underestimating as of now.

  • @reganwolf4405
    @reganwolf4405 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    She better listen to her Father.. and go home. If your father and his familie don't bless the wedding is beter not to get marriage .. 🤲🏽

  • @mariroberts231
    @mariroberts231 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Please I hope she's listening to her father. Go home. It's only going to get worse. His family is going to make it a living hell for her. That brother is horrible..

  • @AE2003FU
    @AE2003FU ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I’m so sick of these people that go into other countries and then decide that they can’t deal with those countries. It’s not even a real cultural thing. She’s a brat. She’s been rude. They were a close family before she popped up. She knew that. They need to part ways. They don’t seem to have the type of relationship that’s worth any of this.

    • @priyaprasai4389
      @priyaprasai4389 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stfu that's not a fucking culture. I am from South Asia country. We know what kind of family they are. It is sexism not culture. Women shutting up, wearing certain dress, working in kitchen blah blah blah. Thats not a culture thats sexist. You have no idea it will get worst and worst and manipulation will be same.

    • @seawhorse9866
      @seawhorse9866 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Her first impression was so bad to start off. When the family seen her act that way it out them on edge. She is so mean but doesn’t want the same treatment

    • @Sinsteel
      @Sinsteel ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah but the hidden point is that no one really "joins" these traditional, gender role societies, they only flee them to the West, usually. No Western woman in her right mind would want to be part of that, only in her naive fantasies.

    • @onyx081
      @onyx081 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      She's definitely a rude brat, but TJ and his family aren't any better. They're *all* in the wrong

    • @Asipivlogs
      @Asipivlogs ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@onyx081correct 💯 they want someone submissive who would do anything without shouting back at them

  • @sabias3932
    @sabias3932 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Has TJ finally revealed that his family expects her to be their live in maid or is he still hiding that til after the wedding?

  • @destaneehoward
    @destaneehoward ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It bothered me that she told her family what he said as if she didn’t say much worse before he did

  • @joywebster2678
    @joywebster2678 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have to assume her secret solution is, marry him, and convince TJ to move to the USA.

  • @jvharbin8337
    @jvharbin8337 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Feels like an obligation more than the happiest day of your life." So you mean a normal Indian wedding?

  • @yesitsdenise7525
    @yesitsdenise7525 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i'm not sure this is the relationship he' manifested', but he got what he wanted. be careful what you wish for........

  • @02loud
    @02loud ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The solution is for them to move away from his family but ofc that isn't likely. She's insane to go through with this.

  • @Toxic-Ology
    @Toxic-Ology ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:00 As is often the case with programs like this, a person gets to say things like they lived with an abusive partner or “toxic environment” in her case, and it goes unchallenged or checked.
    Did she really live in a toxic environment? It is possible considering her personality red flags, but the same red flags mean you can’t just take it as fact as toxic can mean she didn’t get her own way because there were other kinds to consider too. Also there were a lot of kids she lived with, but that’s similar to going to school, there’s always times when things happen like name calling and even fights. Does that mean a school is a toxic environment?
    Also even though your social class doesn’t have a direct impact on being in a toxic environment, from the looks of the first photo, it seems like she was lucky to live in quite a nice house, the second tells us they went on outings. In toxic environments the kids are usually an after thought so family days out like that are less likely. On top of that, her father and step mum are flying out to India for her wedding, so again this is evidence that things aren’t too bad on that front.
    All of the evidence, except her entitled personality point to her idea of a toxic environment being an insult to people who grew up in toxic environments. Ironically those who do grow up in toxic environments don’t usually recognise it (it can take many years to realise anything was wrong because it’s their normal), so are unfortunately less likely to even say they did. Meanwhile the people who are just spoiled and entitled get all of the wasted attention that those who genuinely did, don’t get.
    Toxic environment “family meetings often turned to chaos”. Someone actually from a toxic home “what’s a family meeting?”.
    8:55 But I thought she was brought up in a toxic home. So how would there be a stark contrast that dawns on her?? Unless she wasn’t.
    10:10 And just remember this one sided account of the argument she is giving when weighing up what she has said about growing up in a toxic environment. Another clue that maybe the only thing toxic about the environment was her. As a side note when he was “trashing” her culture. The only reason this may have happened is because he was possibly told what she had said about Indian culture. It’s easy to conclude that he didn’t already feel his culture was being attacked when he said it because I don’t think we know whether her attack was shared.

  • @msleahb12
    @msleahb12 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    That woman has literally done nothing but break TJ down into her guard dog. She literally REFUSED to participate in ANY of their cultural norms and Im not surprised TJ’s brother can’t stand the site if her. She refused to see anything from TJ’s perspective and then used the classic yt victim card to pretend that she did listen and that HE’S the problem. She’s very culturally insensitive and manipulative when it comes to the subject.

    • @Grannysbaby81
      @Grannysbaby81 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      🎯

    • @toanotherplace
      @toanotherplace ปีที่แล้ว +5

      your racism is showing

    • @waywardstoner9416
      @waywardstoner9416 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@toanotherplaceyeah. I agree with most of what is said but the "yt victim card" isn't exclusive to "yt's" at all.

    • @samsongomah1318
      @samsongomah1318 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@toanotherplace Yawn, another woke who sees racism everywhere.

    • @TradesbyNao
      @TradesbyNao ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeap, she s giving me classic US toxic personality, with the manipulation and high self absorbed narcissistic complex.

  • @Sunny-tc3ul
    @Sunny-tc3ul ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If you are from the US and you want to marry someone overseas learn their culture and respect it. If you can’t do that, then you shouldn’t be trying to marry into that family nor that culture. Some people want that westernized lifestyle in a different country…. Not going to always work.

  • @HS-hi6wc
    @HS-hi6wc ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think there needs to be social and physical distance b/w Kimberley and the brother in law. I don't see why there needs to be any kind of touch at all when she is not comfortable.

    • @Margriet101
      @Margriet101 ปีที่แล้ว

      She could say: "sorry, iam not comfortabel with touch." But she acted like there was something inappropriate goining on. Yash was beining filmd ofcourse he would not do that even if he wanted to do that. Maby something happend to her and she is sensitive about that.
      But was she not first to yell to TJ on the first day? She just made to many mistakes, maby just start over again with another man and family.

    • @PoeticPeer
      @PoeticPeer ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm an American living in India...my brother in law is literally terrified to speak to me 😅. It's seriously abnormal for yash to touch her...male family members have never touched me and it's not culturally acceptable for him to have done so.

    • @sunflowerbird8232
      @sunflowerbird8232 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly... Why does he want to touch her so bad? Who wants to touch the person they supposedly hate soooo much? He's not entitled to her body

  • @fashaburunditvenglish6114
    @fashaburunditvenglish6114 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This brother shouldn't feel so bad for not being allowed to touch her😂

  • @ms.sassyone
    @ms.sassyone ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone else think that Kimberly & Tj's brother look alike in a weird way?? 😂

  • @dianaortiz9775
    @dianaortiz9775 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Kimberly should just go home and live her best life. When you get married you marry their family in Indian culture. If you don’t get along with them move on.

    • @TruthSlayer1
      @TruthSlayer1 ปีที่แล้ว

      why should she care for his culture when he doesn't care anything for his OWN culture? Indian people don't marry white woman, THAT isn't part of our culture... when don't marry outside of our own religion, THAT isn't part of our culture... we don't marry outside of caste, THAT isn't part of our culture... heck even his fake name "TJ" isn't part of Indian culture, his name is "Tejaswi"... this guy wants his green card cake and eat it too...

  • @michelleallred8521
    @michelleallred8521 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Funny how that culture can gripe, yell & get bent outta shape over "respect", but they won't give HER culture any respect

    • @StarlaBizarre
      @StarlaBizarre ปีที่แล้ว

      why should they though...? She moved THERE

  • @joseyglesias3743
    @joseyglesias3743 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Help me mommy and daddy. I make bad decisions and am not accountable for my choices. Fix it for me now!!!😂😂😂😂

  • @MyButterfly60
    @MyButterfly60 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    She needs to go home!

  • @Veganallvegan
    @Veganallvegan ปีที่แล้ว +9

    He could always move to USA with her to get some independence

  • @sandlotkrew8778
    @sandlotkrew8778 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Long story short... She wants to be American in India. LOL !! Majority of Indians look alike... She could've found a replica TJ in the US.

    • @joywebster2678
      @joywebster2678 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Or the millions in Canada where life isn't so different from USA.

    • @Asipivlogs
      @Asipivlogs ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂😂

    • @Kinghutchyafl
      @Kinghutchyafl ปีที่แล้ว

      True they all stink and scam people (Indians), if I was her I'd go back to America take a dump and then put her hand in the toilet, grab it out and walk it down the alter... Same thing as marrying a indian but atleast it's in your home country

  • @musingwanderer2765
    @musingwanderer2765 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Kimberly go home pls… love can’t conquer all.. reality will set in when passion fades. TJ finally will be fatigue by all the quarrels and may turn against her. And then whole family may try to make her conform to the Indian culture..and yash will ensure her life will be in misery. He’s quite horrible…. 🙄Just run first, zoom out and consider the relationship again. And pay TJ some money back for the apartment, should be easier in USD.

    • @Asipivlogs
      @Asipivlogs ปีที่แล้ว +1

      💯

    • @TruthSlayer1
      @TruthSlayer1 ปีที่แล้ว

      This family is full of hypocrites... they want Kimberly (an American white woman) to conform to their "Indian" culture... but their own son doesn't conform or respect the Indian culture... Indian people don't marry white woman, THAT isn't part of our culture... we don't marry outside of our own religion, THAT isn't part of our culture... we don't marry outside of caste, THAT isn't part of our culture... heck even his fake name "TJ" isn't part of Indian culture, his name is "Tejaswi"... this guy wants his green card cake and eat it too... and this hypocritical family on this show trying to fool us into thinking they are good conservative Indian family raising a good "Indian" son... smdh...

  • @vikikat4935
    @vikikat4935 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    When she arrived and saw that their Apt was upstairs in his family home.
    And how the people built it Kimberly wasn't happy.
    Especially living in the family home with a door that separated her and his family.
    I think that Kimberly wanted to put a riff between TJ and his family
    So they will move and find their own place.
    I could see Kimberly asking her Dad if he could pay the loan that TJ has so they can move out

  • @ilonabata6352
    @ilonabata6352 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The brother is trouble maker. They can allways get married in the Usa, or break it off.

  • @WooWoo-co4jf
    @WooWoo-co4jf ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I didn't see her mom dressed in Indian style clothes, but her dad looked great in them!

    • @bigwoogc
      @bigwoogc ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Her mom's Indian clothing was really beautiful. I like that they were completely willing to wear traditional Indian garb without complaining. Remember when Usman's Kimbaaaly refused to wear any traditional clothing except a poorly arranged head scarf?

  • @extemporaneous4545
    @extemporaneous4545 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Is she bringing a great big dowry to the table? Because if she doesn't, she's going to get zero respect in her marital home.

  • @jenniferduff5518
    @jenniferduff5518 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    She should have did her research on his religion and culture. When she gets married they all have access to her. It's almost like she's selling her soul. She best think long and hard before marrying into this family.

    • @TruthSlayer1
      @TruthSlayer1 ปีที่แล้ว

      why should she care for his culture when he doesn't care anything for his OWN culture? Indian people don't marry white woman, THAT isn't part of our culture... when don't marry outside of our own religion, THAT isn't part of our culture... we don't marry outside of caste, THAT isn't part of our culture... heck even his fake name "TJ" isn't part of Indian culture, his name is "Tejaswi"... this guy wants his green card cake and eat it too...

  • @sweetspicy92
    @sweetspicy92 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg ! Can no one see that her Norma jeans and the jeans you wore last time in front of family are extremely different .
    It was 80% torn

    • @akaLaBrujaRoja
      @akaLaBrujaRoja ปีที่แล้ว

      Omg! Can you watch the show? TJ himself said she’d worn those same jeans in front of them before and no one complained then.

  • @rebeccacrakow2918
    @rebeccacrakow2918 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wouldn’t find Kimberly respectful either! I probably would ask my son to reconsider 😂 however, there is something going on with the brother that I don’t like! Either way- Kimberly IS a very volatile person! Wait until she finds out about what is expected of her as a new daughter Inlaw😮 TJ should have told her a while ago- which he didn’t!

  • @mariec8619
    @mariec8619 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The brother being so adamant to touch her gives me the ick. Idc what culture you’re from, if you are trying to insert your dominance by insisting on touching someone, that’s just gross. Just the way he has to even bring up touching her in a confrontational tone just to say goodbye, especially when he knows she made it clear that she doesn’t like it… just no.

    • @Margriet101
      @Margriet101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So how would you meet your New sister/brother in law?
      Is it so wrong to give a hug or kiss on the cheek to make them feel welcome in the family? In Europe thats normal.

    • @saammy99
      @saammy99 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol I think that’s because Tj wanted them to shake hands before she leaves hence why he bought that up

    • @mariec8619
      @mariec8619 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Margriet101 I’m European!! But like the way he keeps of forcing it and insisting on it and being so adamant! Like he just won’t let it go. It’s disgusting.

    • @Margriet101
      @Margriet101 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mariec8619 Ok i guess everybody has a right to a own opinon 😉

  • @a.jayleecholopray5956
    @a.jayleecholopray5956 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The brother is jealous he’s not dating a foreigner 😅

  • @haydenblackstone8177
    @haydenblackstone8177 ปีที่แล้ว

    "They don't know what they are walking into" whoa I assumed her parents were Claire's as well 😂

  • @moneylovepower5675
    @moneylovepower5675 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That not how that works. You can’t say I want to marry TJ but not his family when in most culture, be a package deal. Either way I don’t think they truly love each other and know what it takes to keep a long lasting relationship or even a marriage

    • @PoeticPeer
      @PoeticPeer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She can love him AND his family can suck. Two things can be true at the same time

  • @ntombi-yensimbinarrates7297
    @ntombi-yensimbinarrates7297 ปีที่แล้ว

    Culture plays a big role in your compatibility with a potential life partner. Loving someone, I'm afraid, is not enough and never will be because our love is conditional. I am a South African who is severely Westernized. However, it is important that you fit into my culture the same way I can/should fit into yours. Kim and TJ need to be brutally honest about their cultural compatibility. If they can't agree/compromise, they should consider calling it quits before it is too late.

  • @julietteoscaralphanovember2223
    @julietteoscaralphanovember2223 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Yosh and Kim are 2 peas in a pod!!! Both are strong willed, stubborn and both want to be in charge.
    Yosh is probably really upset because TJ doesn't have to sleep with him mom anymore and now he has to sleep with his mom every night!! Or that his brother is getting a wife before him

    • @SpicyPlur
      @SpicyPlur ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Definitely this. Yosh and his mama are examples of people who claim to be a "grown man" buy comes home to mama every night. At least Kim did something crazy to get what she wants 🤷‍♀️

    • @suburbcinderella
      @suburbcinderella ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do u think yosh has feelings sexual or otherwise for Kimberly? 😮

    • @CcOo548
      @CcOo548 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Am getting lusty vibes from yosh in my point of view

    • @julietteoscaralphanovember2223
      @julietteoscaralphanovember2223 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CcOo548 ahhh, I didn't think of that, could be!!

    • @julietteoscaralphanovember2223
      @julietteoscaralphanovember2223 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@suburbcinderella I didn't think of that but it could be!! I thought maybe because TJ was getting married before him, but it very well could be he's having desires!!

  • @petercushing72
    @petercushing72 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yash is my HERO!

  • @toanotherplace
    @toanotherplace ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you were a guest at someone's house and they made it clear that they don't appreciate your attire, and you had a whole suitcase of other clothing you could wear that didn't offend them, would you insist on wearing that clothing?

    • @Margriet101
      @Margriet101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Indian clothes are so cheap she just dont want to comferm. The parents of my fiance are Moroccan i only where long dresses there.

    • @akaLaBrujaRoja
      @akaLaBrujaRoja ปีที่แล้ว

      She wasn’t a guest, this was supposed to be her new home. Don’t you wear what you want in your own home? And TJ saw exactly what she was wearing and didn’t say anything to her about it, he didn’t see anything wrong with it, so neither did Kim, and he called out his mom for being petty when she’s seen the pants before and never said anything about it.

  • @Loudfilmz
    @Loudfilmz ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Might of worked better if he came to the US.

  • @honestyisadyingvirtue
    @honestyisadyingvirtue ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Im sorry but I dont trust her at all. She plays like this sweet, happy go lucky person and when she gets ti india we see the real her. She's rude, inconsiderate, selfish. These changes arent crom her environment. That was in her all along. She plays up certain things for sympathy like saying she grew up in a toxic house, but we see none if that "trauma" when shes with her parents. It feels very opposite actually. I wouldnt doubt if shes only confiding in her parents to feel like aomeone is on her side and to start issues. She has something wrong in her and i cant put my finger on it but i dont like her one bit.

  • @michelleallred8521
    @michelleallred8521 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gotta GIVE respect to GET respect

  • @JenniferLee-q7j
    @JenniferLee-q7j ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The only person responsible for them thinking Kimberly is a duck is her. She’s literally been so rude and unhinged from the moment she landed. Stop blaming his brother- she was welcomed into their home and within mins was shouting at him.
    And her saying he touched her- no. I’d kick her out of the house for even implying that. Saying she’s worried about being in a bad environment when SHES THE ONE MAKING THE HOUSE CHAOTIC is so narcissistic. Main character mindset

  • @SnowWhiteTheU2
    @SnowWhiteTheU2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    TJ deserves this. He created this. He shouldn’t of went crying to his family over every little argument they’ve had.

  • @DesertBluebells
    @DesertBluebells ปีที่แล้ว +1

    IF two people are fighting heavy BEFORE the wedding, they have no business marrying. Regardless of whose fault it is. They have no business marrying! And she was unbelievably disrespectful to wear those jeans in the presence of an Indian family. She knew she would upset the heck out of them. He will NEVER be happy with this woman. Ever.

  • @charlottebreton6796
    @charlottebreton6796 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    what I dont understand is that she said she grew up in a verbally abusive household. So why does she trust her parents when they were the ones who created that terrible environment.

    • @mw6156
      @mw6156 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think the woman next to her dad is her stepmom not her biological mom, so her dad probably remarried and is in a better place now. Also cutting off family isn’t easy for anyone but it’s even harder when there is toxicity involved. Many children with toxic parents still love their parents to the fullest, even if it’s the parents that are the most damaging to them.

    • @StarlaBizarre
      @StarlaBizarre ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I don't really believe that at all. Growing up with a large family in a nice house and going on excursions and having family meetings and still being close to your family, that does not spell the toxic environment to me

    • @evanjuleen
      @evanjuleen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@StarlaBizarre and then there's the turpin family and the 8 passengers family and daddy o five living lives on TH-cam exactly like you described while horribly abusing their children. Abuse wears many masks my love. 💖

  • @ziziflor9019
    @ziziflor9019 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish she would have tried learning the language at a basic level at least. My husband's family speaks a regional dialect so it's hard to find ways to learn it so instead I tried to learn the national language so there's some common words shared. I also think TJ didn't discuss enough wish her on cultural etiquette and what's expected of her. I researched this myself before I met husband's family and asked him if what I learned is what his family does traditionally since it varies between regions.
    I'm just glad you watch this and break it down cause i can't lol

  • @rosaliedetrasjonker8899
    @rosaliedetrasjonker8899 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its very important knowing each other . In 1 year is not enough , 2 years a little bit but its also important to know the likes and dislike of your partner . But at least in the long period of time you hv already know who is he/she and If its a good relationship that its gonna hv a healthy heart or not

  • @massiahgrom
    @massiahgrom ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Kimberly is super arrogant and disrespectful. She will be delt with if she stays . The game will change when shes married . Family property them . She's crazy .

  • @Danxethenightaway
    @Danxethenightaway ปีที่แล้ว +7

    She needs to leave asap. It’s simply just not going to work , and TJ needs to find a more traditional wife. In the long run, this will be a disaster because she won’t be a quiet house mouse as a wife; she’s very opinionated.
    Both of them just need to take the loss and Keep it moving.

  • @Badmomsclub
    @Badmomsclub ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She obviously can’t make it better. But she can be supportive of TJ. But it looks like she’s going to continue the battle with his brother! This never ends well, Yoshi is trying to make amends. She doesn’t even give him the opportunity to apologize. She says, he just wants to shake my hand and everything will be OK“ she doesn’t even know that! She didn’t even give him the opportunity to apologize to her. She obviously has some issues that she probably needs to address before she gets into a relationship or even gets married! Because the way she entered into this family when she came to India was way off line.

    • @deelaljee9176
      @deelaljee9176 ปีที่แล้ว

      She should have shaken hands and settled things before leaving for the hotel. She refuses to simmer down.

  • @amaracrow0501
    @amaracrow0501 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If she goes you think he will stay up in the apartment or go back to the family bed?

    • @akaLaBrujaRoja
      @akaLaBrujaRoja ปีที่แล้ว

      He slept with his mommy the first night Kim got there, so of course he’ll keep sleeping with her. He even thought it was a good idea to ask Kim to join him and his mom in bed after that first argument instead of joining Kim in what’s supposed to be their own bed. But you can’t really call it the family bed when the dad has to sleep on the living room floor after the mom had a fight with him 20 years ago. 😂

    • @amaracrow0501
      @amaracrow0501 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@akaLaBrujaRoja i try to respect different cultures and not judge the family dynamics of others but...that is so WEIRD. I would have bounced out the night he offered that I come share the family bed.

  • @BQ900
    @BQ900 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My Dad absolutely forbade my marriage and he had some good points. She might not be happy with Indian Prince.

  • @Chitownhomestead
    @Chitownhomestead ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Kim is annoying and watching them is a chore..

  • @TheShahkulu
    @TheShahkulu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dont know why any westerner, especially a woman, would want to marry into a very traditional, conservative Indian family.

  • @zoraidita2022
    @zoraidita2022 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If I were to be in Kimberlees shoes I would really think twice in getting myself into. Just go back home!!!

  • @WooWoo-co4jf
    @WooWoo-co4jf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm sure there are some people in the world for whom knees send them crazy, but the average person doesn't. I think the jeans was just more bu**ets to fire.

  • @petercushing72
    @petercushing72 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Actually I do blame Pipsqueak K's dad for having successfully raised someone who seems, ahem, quick to fury when her exacting needs aren't met - I do see my sister in her. You treat them with kid gloves and that's kinda what happens.

  • @cheery-hex
    @cheery-hex ปีที่แล้ว +5

    wow some harsh comments. that's why I like "All things Reality"... he has an objective and (compassionate) take. I'm no marshmallow either. It's just the more I see the more I realise that overly-harsh and judgmental comments usually reflect more about the person saying them than the person they are saying them about

    • @Margriet101
      @Margriet101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kimberly is also not shy to say harsh things

  • @Sashenka979
    @Sashenka979 ปีที่แล้ว

    🙏. I hope so!

  • @rukihaniff5045
    @rukihaniff5045 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He’s a huge red flag and they do have issues WHats gonna happen after the marriage when she’s told she gotta cook and clean for a family that doesn’t like you? And tbh I come from a Indian family and I’ve seen so many times the men taking the families side. Pls run 😂living with in laws in the WORST idea ever for a brand new married couple

  • @toanotherplace
    @toanotherplace ปีที่แล้ว

    Guess what. She went upstairs to change her pants.

  • @dianne7184
    @dianne7184 ปีที่แล้ว

    No one is acting out of jealousy. It's very apparent this wedding is not a good idea and she needs to return to the USA, now!!!

  • @aferditakosova
    @aferditakosova ปีที่แล้ว +8

    TJ need to let Kim go! She don‘t fit to his culture!

    • @TruthSlayer1
      @TruthSlayer1 ปีที่แล้ว

      why should she care for his culture when he doesn't care anything for his OWN culture? Indian people don't marry white woman, THAT isn't part of our culture... when don't marry outside of our own religion, THAT isn't part of our culture... we don't marry outside of caste, THAT isn't part of our culture... heck even his fake name "TJ" isn't part of Indian culture, his name is "Tejaswi"... this guy wants his green card cake and eat it too...

  • @ferraroannie4058
    @ferraroannie4058 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There's nothing wrong with ripped jeans. Having said that, I can see why his parents (mother, whatever...) would want her to show more respect regarding what she wears. If you have to wear jeans, fine, but don't wear ripped ones. And her jeans are TOO ripped; there's a fine line. IMO, they don't even look good. Just saying. Thank you for the video! 😍xx

    • @Margriet101
      @Margriet101 ปีที่แล้ว

      She looked so pretty in the modest clothes tho

  • @moanarojamir229
    @moanarojamir229 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everyone need a counselor in this family

  • @A.Lost.Astronaut
    @A.Lost.Astronaut ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dont really feel bad for TJ hes been lying to/misleading her about her responsibilities as a wife because he knows she wont accept it and so he's trying to trap her in India he knows shes oblivious to the expected household chores of a traditional indian wife and so it falls on him if he actually loves her to explain to her what the mairrage and chores will be like instead of willfully keeping her ignorant
    but being so unrespeosive to cultural norms tells me she thinks shes still going to be able to act as an american wife just in another country
    She has acted enttilted to an extreme amount though i cant believe she was so ungrateful for the work he put into their apartment

  • @jasmineluevano1997
    @jasmineluevano1997 ปีที่แล้ว

    This wont work out

  • @sylvielessard5534
    @sylvielessard5534 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AS A GENERAL COMMENT....can the family plzzz find the other bro a wife before he starts another war... oufff