How Can a Watch Be SO Expensive? | Watchfinder & Co.
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- One of the most frequently asked questions on luxury watches is about the price. Why are they so expensive? How, if an Apple Watch or even a fully automatic, mechanical Seiko can cost just a few hundred, can another mechanical watch cost thousands and even tens of thousands? Let’s find out.
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Anyone else feel like they have to be wearing a watch when watching a watchfinder video?
It also makes me take them out to look at them
Always.
always a Richard mille tourbillon on my wrist!!! then I laugh at the poor peasants with their grand Seikos!!!
I see your watch taste is very reflective of your car taste. All show, no class
@@alexadams1360 yeah my Daddy always buys me what I want and I'm getting another Richard mille for Christmas!!! must suck to be a peasant!!!
What a great video review again ! I could
watch them all day long , always interesting and really well made ! Best on TH-cam by far well done 👌🏻
Great video as always and explains well some of the elements. Brand and profit play a big part re margin levels and what the market will allow. Love the new intro.
I like to watch my Watchfider & Co. video with my cup of coffee.
I sold frederique constant timepieces for years they punch above their class. I even own their worldtimer it always seems to draw many compliments plus the people who founded the company and the us and Caribbean sales reps are wonderful. I also was an AD for sister brand Alpina another excellent product
Outstanding video! Educational, entertaining, and out right amazing to watch.
I like how the intro is done. Focusing on every individual watches on discussion instead of a repeat of the same footage, force audience to not skip the intro.
I have that particular Frederique Constant model, very well made indeed. I have some FC money, just not PP money!
How much is that FC model if you don't mind me asking? Its such a beauty
@@Checkmate025 Around 1k
@@Checkmate025 Chrono24 has them for 2k to 3.5k
@@dasmesser1 Thanks mate.
@@lemmontree1 Thanks mate
Anybody else feeling like it was a very well concealed Frederique Constant advertisement?
It probably is.
Watch more of their videos - they all seem like well concealed ads for the brand they're featuring. Which means they're probably not, they don't care what watch you buy (as long as it's from them, which is fair)
It is for sure.
Great quality video as always! Would love to get your take on the Hanhart Pioneer One or any Hanhart for that matter. The 417es is the hot watch at the moment, but the Pioneer One is just at my price point. Thanks!
Love the video and brilliant conclusion. I actually have the FC model in blue and can attest to the quality of the piece. PP is in its own class but you have rightly positioned Seiko and FC’s value proposition.
So happy to see this channel in 4k now!
very well put together. fantastic ride.
Very interesting perspective on a well made watch like Frederick Constant. I’d love to see a video on watch makers that started at the major luxury brands like Patek and then went their own way, like Laurent Ferrier.
My most practical and elegant FC watch! Moon phase indicator has a special touch of class - for me.
I kind of feel like the fact that Frederique Constant is owned by Citizen is being overlooked here.
They’re not some small concern.
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Interesting comparison. Enjoyed it. Regards.
I do like an otherwise fairly plain moon phase. Both these look great and Constant have done an amazing job at that price point. The PP is too rich for my blood but my money would go to the Jaeger LeCoultre version that sits between these two.
It sounds like a Frederique Constant commercial to me) Well done!
They should to collaborate with Hollywood, it might boosts the brand recognition to the sky if everything will be done properly.
you are great inspiration, just because of you I started making macro shots too. You are on the top of the game with this..
I think what FC is short of is a signature, that means, when the name comes to mind, you can't recall a specific model or series.
yeah because they are not particularly remarkable, but people generally know that they're - swiss, - good quality, - have mechanical movements (some of them)
To be honest, I can't recall any specific PP either :D
bistyz really? No nautilus?
@@bistyz Nautilus, Calatrava, Any perpetual chronographs.
Best channel hands down!
Hi. May I ask what watches you own and are you able to create a vlog on them? It would be great to see your own perception on your own time pieces.
I hope Frederique Constant succeed. They make some beautiful watches, so deserve to.
I can't imagine having a real world conversation with you whilst you speaking in this tone pitch and speed. LOL. Love the vids!
I always love how Watchfinder combines a interesting watch topic with the presentation of a single (often underrated) brand! It's so elegantly done and lovely to watch! Keep it going!
All the best from Germany!
4k content finally!
Great Content 👌
I have a FC worldtimer for 8 years now, never let me down and its a fantastic watch!
You did it again! I’m impressed every time. I’m sad I sold this fc-715
I'm waiting for my FC 710mb4h6 (manufacture black) to arrive any day now. Can't wait.
Just noticed you've gone worldwide! Congratulations on this huge accomplishment 😁
Probably my favorite channel on TH-cam.
yes indeed, you can also enjoy a few watch repair channels too... Joe from Nekkid Watchmaker and Marshall from Wristwatch Revival are both pretty awesome.
@@Ricky.913 Nekkid Watchmaker is fucking legit!
Having a fredrique constant is pure joy although I’d take that Patek any day if money wasn’t and object
I actually have this frederique constant, bought it years ago since the Patek was out of reach, and actually have had a few people over the years compliment it as a "nice patek" 😅
Can you please show us a Habring watch, preferably the Perpetual Doppel?
. . excellent video as usual . . . Please do a Rado video . . Diastars and the horse Range
Got my dad an FC as reasonable price point for a luxury gift. He loves it even thought he's not a materialistic person. Think they do have a good spot in the market.
The short answer: Price is controlled by what the market (watch buyers) will pay.
Exhibit #1: SS Ceramic Daytona, Nautilus, and Aquanaut lol
Absolutely love my Frederique Constant 👍 Amazing watch
I recently picked up a Timex m79 snoopy and think its brilliant. The big question is how many watches do you see in this piece? I can at least find five different watches like the Tudor North flag.
The only issue with what is said about Frederique Constant is that the company is owned by Citizen (since spring 2016), which is one of the largest watch manufacturers in the world (bigger than Seiko).
Thank you for 4K videos 😍😍
I like the last part about FC since I'm wearing one as I watch this video.
Hand made mastery melts my heart
At 1:58 , is the ETACHRON system rotated on the wrong side ? I have learned we have to twist it clockwise.
FC make cool stuff, but it’s always a couple of mm too big
Yep, and the cost to develop a smaller movement costs alot more and harder to produce.
Same with glashutte original, they make 40mm dress watches (also thick) and can't get them to 38mm and thin.
@@Jay-xr3sb 40mm is manageable, 42mm for a dress watch is too much
@@christhorne7565 depends on your taste
The thickness, lug to lug, endlink to endlink, taper down of the lugs, all dial vs bezel, white vs darker dials, your wrist size and flatness all have a bearing on how a watch wears.
Something that just meets the end of your wrist may not be so comfortable.
For me 37 to 38.5mm watches work on the dressy side.
39 to 41mm on the sporty.
Yes I love their watches but agreed majority are 40mm+
Too big for me for a dress watch, I prefer 36-39
I just found that this channel has been upgraded to 4K, even more amazing.
Not for me.
@@lemmontree1 Only this new video is in 4K, the old ones are still 1080P.
@@ScaredPilot Yeah now I get it too. Wasn't up when I commented. Finally they switched.
I own one FC moonphase open heartbeat watch. It looks super elegant and great value for the money I paid.
Finally!!!!!! 4K videoes ❤
A new opening! A shame to not hear Hong Kong there anymore ... but great video nonetheless!
Big Frederique Constant fan here. I hope they make it big
I have owned that FC model since 2016. I got it new for about 75% off the list price. I have really enjoyed the watch, and it's a perfect pair in my 2-watch collection. It keeps almost perfect time (-1/+1 depending on how I set it down). The build quality of the moonphase is actually better than my Omega Speedmaster 3576. And for the price I paid, I can wear and enjoy it way more than if I had a Patek 2438/2497 (which I could never afford and wouldn't be willing to buy, even if I could). This was a great video, and I really enjoyed seeing such close ups of my watch. I know the Patek has way more hand finishing, but to my eye (without a loop), the FC seems almost as nicely finished. For me, it's like a retina display on a phone - at some point, the more pixels you add in (4k/5k displays) don't really make an appreciable difference to my eye, and it's a question of diminishing returns.
Hi I just bought the same watch used. Do you wind your FC? Because I found it really stiff to wind
@@WF-ww2rw I don't wind it too often. Most mornings I actually shake it back and forth for 3 minutes to keep it wound (if I'm not wearing it that day). It is pretty stiff to wind, and the onion-shaped crown is a bit sharp, so it hurts my fingers a bit to wind it. But when I do wind it, if it was at full power the morning before, I usually just have to give 10-12 turns with my finger and thumb, and that keeps it going until the next morning.
Where to get used FC? I want one
@@WF-ww2rwwhere to get used FC?
1:36 Perfect shot where you can see the GENEVE reflected on the underside of the second hand, and then reflected back off the hour hand. Nicely done Patek!
Please give review on Seiko SPB165J1..🙏🙏.. and suggest me best seiko presage watch please.
Amazing 👍
Patek Philippe are amazing not many other watches are even close.
not first but a consistent guy
love ya watchfinder
nice channel!
Exquisite as always, thank you.
As I cradle my trio of watches with the ubiquitous Seiko NH35 movement and dream of having Geneve on a dial. But not Rolex...
Try looking into a used Omega Geneve with a 525 caliber movement. Seiko prices for a quality vintage watch.
Finally Patek 5396G!
same for lange but no one wants a lange even though it is as well finished or better than a patek
Great content, ruined, by awful irrelevant video ads. Thanks TH-cam.
Can you do a video on servicing costs?
I feel that Frederique Constant is riding on the similarity of Constantin name to sound more expensive. Frederique constant make very good watches, also, they have the parent company Citizen to provide them with high quality technology.
I own two FC. Open heart 16 anniversary and love it. And the one in my profile picture. I love them. A lot quality for the money. You can buy expensive stuff not meaning that you getting what you are really paying for.
6:48 Very few, Akrivia is one of them , you should’ve make a review already
Can’t wait anymore for my 5396-R015 😭😭😭
that FC looks surprisingly well next to the PP
Happy Christmas to you all.
Everything else I am at stops when you post a new video. The icing on the cake is when I actually have one of the watches you talk about and I now have two after this video. No it’s not the Patek but I am very happy with my FC after that. Brilliant work as usual 👍
I love FC the most that make sense of price to me.
FC makes great watches.
Quick math on PP
62000 pcs production
$1.5B revenue
$24K avg piece price
1600 employees
38 pieces per employee
$937K revenue per employee
Doesn't seem like a nice swiss salary could even remotely be a trouble
why no water resistance for any luxury or high priced watch?
Ngl I thought the thumbnail was two Patek Philippes
Its called perceived value. If people woke up tomorrow and decided Rolex isn't worth the investment, the brand would tank. Unlikely to happen, but advertising and exclusivity comprise a pivotal role. Selling an expensive watch IS NOT difficult. Retaining brand value IS.
Put the circumference of your wrist in the video when you show it worn on your wrist. Just for reference.
pls do the ap frosted gold double balance wheel openworks rianbow
love watching your videos, but price is never what I had to consider since I got into watches, because my first question (or even statement) will always be: it won't look good on my thin wrist...
haha I feel ur pain too bro
It's a good day when Watchfinder releases a new video.
Another video this week? Perfect.
Look at the reflection of underside of the second hand on the seiko. Now compare it to the patek. That's why the patek cost more
LOL Frederique Constant is the most impressive, kinda true
Really good video - BUT you failed to consider the largest factor in luxury watch prices: marketing and stories. This is no secret, the fully-burdened cost to manufacture a watch (materials, machines, labor, facilities, real estate, insurance, design, testing, finishing, packaging, etc) is only about 10-15% of the wholesale price. The other 75-90% of the wholesale price is related to marketing. Luxury watch brands charge a PREMIUM for the “story” around their watches. Celebrity Brand Ambassadors, launch events, fairs, evocative commercials, boutique point of sale merchandising. Omega, IWC, Rolex, etc have big celebrities or charity foundations they support that help elevate the outward brand message and “story of luxury” around their watches. Georges Kern once spoke at “Zurich Minds” about the use of story telling in the brand message in order to sell a watch that costs about $1,000 to manufacture for $10,000.
8:13
the left screw like thing is off
the right one sits at a good angle
The screw like thing is a keeper for the balance spring. The orientation for that is based on how the spring is attached to the keeper. It's not based on the need to be lined up with the holder in a certain orientation.
what about raw materials like gold/platinum?
I own an Omega but yet admire a brand like FC, can not understand the pricing of Patek, not for me.
Well, they say you never actually own a PP, you just care for it for the next generation...who will still owe money to the bank for it.
But Frederique Constant do invest in marketing, right Watchfinder? lol
yeah
Top-grade mechanical watches are works of art crafted with care by master artisans. When has something like that EVER been cheap? Never, and it never will be.
Please feature the Tissot Seastar 2000 Professional.
Do the Zenith Defy Inventor next 😎
Would love a video on the Grand Seiko SBGW231. Fantastic piece. Keep up the good work. 👌🏼
Why does it have the Geneve logo?
Vintage watch vs Modern watch next please
At 6:42 the dust on patek's date hand 😢. How can u make such mistake for a watch costing that much. Makes u wonder they're are just ripping people in the name of so called brand history and "exclusivity".
Marketing is what allows a company to separate price from cost.
9:00 do you want to talk about Alpina?
1440p Awesome❤️😍
This roségold of the PP makes me stutter!
My only problem with FC is that so many of their designs are direct rip-offs of Patek and other more prestigious brands. That said, they do make decent-quality watches at a relatively decent price overall.