This is where electrical energy storage can really help. At charging stations, where it's possible for demand to exceed 1 megawatt, something like a Tesla "Megapack" could handle the peak demand, then charge back up when the loading on the grid is much less. At home, charging overnight really helps, if the charging ca begin after air conditioning systems are winding down. Such storage systems can also take advantage of intermittent renewable sources, like wind and solar when they're generating full power, especially if that happens during periods of low demand.
Air conditioning is the much bigger problem. Most EV owners charge their cars at home at night. Peak electricity demand occurs on the very hot days when everyone turns on their AC.
I've heard a lot of it is california can supply the electricity their infrastructure is just old and shitty and I guess they don't wanna go upgrade it. There are high risks of popping an old transformer in the woods and then they have a new massive forest fire on their hands that I believe they are financially responsible for.
This was an excellent and informative video! The nation definitely needs to upgrade the infrastructure. Knowing this I wonder if Texas will be doing the same? They have a completely secluded electrical grid specifically for their state.
Thank you for watching! Texas is actually reasonably suited to build out its infrastructure. There is tons of supplemental wind power in the west part of the state.
@@EVPulse My concern is how efficiently Federal money will be spent. A lot of "shovel-ready" money for prior infrastructure improvements seems to have vanished into thin air. Totally agree that the grid can easily be upgraded for EVs, but there's no time, or money, to waste.
I retired after 34 years as an IT Field Technician for a Fortune 100 electric company; my two specialties were wide area communications and protection schemes for transmission and distribution; I was the IT guru for the newly installed Smart Grid system in Flagstaff back in 2010. I see this video as mostly right, but the sources are not talking about the right things. Capacity per se is a relatively small part of the reliability picture: everybody overlooks stability, even though it is a major factor in most wide ranging blackouts. Mostly good news: in the 20th century protection schemes were almost entirely plagued by overkill. Since trigger events were a matter of looking for faults on a line, there was only one way to deal with instability - the leading cause of blackouts: cut lines and facilities in the clear! Bring it all down for as far as it takes, then try to restore pieces one at a time. IMPORTANT LAW OF PHYSICS: generation must equal loss plus load every second or so. The First Law of Thermodynamics sez so. For this very reason relatively minor events in the Pacific Northwest (including a filbert tree being a bit too tall under a transmission line in Oregon) resulted in blackouts to most of the western US on August 10, 1996. The good news is that in the past couple decades a relatively new stabilizing system has been implemented. It is based on a (redundant) data network that shares voltages, currents, and phase angles to intelligently trip off lines that are pushing the system over the edge. The system, known as Remedial Action Scheme (RAS) is a growing part of system stability. That brings us to everyday stuff, but with technical aspects. Generation falls in two categories: dispatchable (available on demand) and non-dispatchable (available when the stars align right. Fossil and nuclear plants are dispatchable sources; solar, wind, and hydro is not. (Hydro is dependent on upstream precipitation.) Geothermal is dispatchable, nearly all other renewable sources are not. Stability depends on enough dispatchable power being available after load is shed if necessary. Bottom line: the adoption curve will probably stay within the proactive measures curve if we are smart. We need to be sensible about relying too much on non-dispatchable power like solar and wind. Use them when the margin is good but relieve them when the margin is not. Non-dispatchable is not like nitroglycerin, but it is waiting for us to make mistakes.
The grid can easily handle the demand of EV charging, if there was sufficient electrical energy storage at the charging sites. Something like a "Tesla Megapack" would handle full rate charging any time of day, and would not burden the grid during peak hours, because it could charge during off-peak hours, and take advantage of the power available from wind and solar when that's available. Because it can put a steady load on the grid, the average energy can be much greater, even with a slight reduction of peak load. It would end curtailment of wind and solar, allowing those assets to operate at their maximum capacity factor. That helps lower the levelized cost of energy from renewables, and most importantly, greatly reduces the need to upgrade the infrastructure. It is much less expensive, and much easier to get a permit to park a container-sized battery system in a charging lot, than to erect hundreds of pylons, and run miles of high tension power lines.
Moved into my house in 2003 and my electric bill was $100/mo. Now in 2023 my electric bill is still $100/mo despite adding an BEV and AC. How, all lights changed to LEDs, outside lighting changed to day/night motion detection, STAR energy appliances, low power computers and displays, low-e windows, insulation, etc. From that perspective I have a net gain of about $300/mo, what I used to pay for diesel and diesel vehicle service/maintenance and the house resale value has greatly increased by almost $100K over normal appreciation.
Air conditioning, the peak daytime load is the main issue. AC loading greatly increases with hotter summers. AC unit count will also increase worldwide from 1.9 billion in 2020 to 5.5 billion units in 2050 (IEA). EV charging is a peak night time load. Bottom line: If the grid can handle peak daytime in the summer it will generally be able to handle the night. A crap ton of $ will have to be spent improving the grid, but not for the reason you think.
ACTALLY, EVs will BOLSTER the grid. All EVs need to be using a Bi-Directional charger. One that puts juice INTO the EVs battery pack as well as take juice OUT of the battery pack so the grid can use it. As we speak there are some 9M EVs on US roads. It works like this>>> You come home from work or a trip & plug in. Your charger tops off your battery pack THEN the charger switches making your battery pack capacity available to the grid to run your neighbors ac or do his laundry. In the wee hours of the morning. your charger will switch back & top off your battery pack once more getting you ready to start your day. Problem Solved. The US grid does not need to increase its capacity because all these EVs WILL BE the increased capacity. !
There are serious problems with that vision, though. There is nothing to regulate such unsolicited power; it is not very different from trying to drive with the engine power doing whatever it wants to do. Blackouts are commonly caused by instabilities. Numerous homes backfeeding the retail electric system is a condition that will have to be well-controlled.
@@lsh3rd True - provider control over load is a _big_ and rapidly growing thing. In Arizona we have had many "offers" from Arizona Public Service (I retired from there five years ago) to give me a Nest thermostat that they would control... but they rarely mention that last bit. What could go wrong? About a decade ago the thermostats in our admin building here in Flagstaff were taken over by the system in Phoenix. It set the thermostats to about 80 degrees, which cause our heater to go on in the summer morning. Hey... the outside temperature was nearing 100F in Phoenix so the whole state should be set that way.
Exactly, however, if everyone and their brother starts charging an EV, problems could begin cropping up. Still, power companies are aware of this and investments are being made. Thanks for watching and commenting! - Craig
@@AutoEsoterica Speaking of investments: policies differ from state to state, but here in Arizona providers are responsible for maintenance costs and ratepayers are responsible for capital projects. The process is: 1) the need is identified 2) the cost is projected 3) the proposal is put before the Corporation Commission which rejects or accepts the proposal to raise consumer rates. If rejected, the job is shelved. If accepted, the project becomes real, with materials being purchased, right-of-ways (already negotiated) purchased, and manpower scheduled. This may be the least predictable part of adjusting to EVs: sticker shock among ratepayers. Fortunately, it is a long process and outrage wanes in time.
Still not a problem, if the charging sites have electrical energy storage to handle the peak demand, and can charge at a limited but steady amount of power from the grid. If the grid voltage sags from high demand, the batteries don't charge.(the head of the "duck curve") If the wind kicks up, and the voltage rises, Or the sun comes up and solar panels produce maximum power, (the back of the "duck curve") the batteries charge. When the demand on the grid goes down at night, that's when the "Megapacks" charge back up, ready to fast-charge the next semi. It would be much faster and less expensive, to install something like Tesla "Megapacks", than to upgrade the infrastructure to be able to charge trucks and busses at 750kW to 1 megawatt charge rates each. A big battery can simultaneously charge several commercial vehicles at once at maximum power, where as the grid would be hard pressed to supply that kind of load at the same time. It would be nearly impossible, during peak hours.
The utility companies are in business to make money for themselves and their shareholders. They will do whatever is necessary to produce enough power to charge the EVs that plug into their service. Smart utility companies are decentralized their grids and supporting solar panel installations on every appropriate rooftop in their areas.
Well, the answer is NO provided that your produce enough energy by whatever means and have an efficient and reliable distribution system. It requires a lot of planning and investment. If you just seat back and relax you will have huge problems. EV adoption can easily grow 10, 20% over year, but electricity generation and distribution will not grow as fast as.
Electric class 8 truck charging requires 1,000KVA for each charging stall. That is so far above our current capacity you don't even have to do the math. It's like, can I haul 50,000 lbs in my Honda Civic.
Truck chargers have to powered from batteries at the charging site that recharge slowly at times of low grid demand then output fast when a truck pulls up.
What's crazy is electric company puts energy savers on your home for your air conditioning. This allows them to shut off certain areas during peak times. Pretty much you don't have control over your air-conditioning settings because they shut you off when they feel like it. They want to make electric vehicles? Lol that makes no sense!!! Specially makes no sense when power goes out just from a storm. Can't charge electric vehicle if that happens. Batteries, freeze and explode so I'm curious how that's gonna work. Not only our batteries extremely expensive and you better be rich in order to replace your batteries in your electric vehicle, but the old ones will still be going to landfill. You didn't really clean the Earth, with your electric vehicle. Gas cars you fill and go, electric cars you sit and wait. You smashing into another car with your battery car and kaboom there's all your battery acid everywhere eating through everybody's skin and everything around it. Sounds like a horror movie.
Something that has me worried is that with everybody adopting into new or used EV's , no one is talking about any kind of conversion happening from (ICE) vehicles to electric. The junk yards that exist today are just going to end up being filled with a bunch of internal combustion vehicles. Hopefully in the future the Auto industry can can agree on using one specific battery type that's most efficient, swappable, and can be charged with WiTricity. And hopefully in the not-so-distant future there will be kits to convert ICE cars to electric. For instance: I have an 09 CRV. If I can get a Tesla axle, or figure out how to put hub motors in my rear wheels And strong enough battery, I might be able to electrify my existing vehicle. I know that's a pipe dream, but I don't see any outfitters in the market trying to convert. I love my car, it serves my needs, only problem is that it runs on gasoline. There are some people that are in the UK are "electrifying classic cars, " but there are no mainstream organizations in the US for this growing need.
Again thanks for watching :) Some folks are already converting gasoline-powered cars to electric. While there aren't a ton of "kits" yet, the aftermarket is doing what it does best and is working to figure out the problem. Additionally, I know several enthusiasts who will be converting their gas-powered vehicles to EV because the propulsion isn't why they're attracted to it. Our own Chad recently had a very long conversation about this on the Unnamed Automotive Podcast: www.unnamedautomotivepodcast.com/316 We also want to do more content like this in the future, as resources become available. Genuinely thanks for taking the time and commenting!
I'm currently in the process of re-engining my '86 Isuzu Trooper, I'm planning on getting many more years out of it. I like my little 'Slug', it's not zippy like most of the vehicles out there, I don't care, I'm not in a hurry to get around.
No more so than now. People aren't going to scrap a perfectly good combustion car, just to buy an electric. When their cars finally reach the end of their useful lives, they will merely replace them with electric cars. The number of scrapped combustion cars per year won't change. The transition to electric vehicles will be by attrition. There won't be a "Cash for Clunkers" program, like there was back in the '80's.
The grid is already failing. Look at all the rolling blackouts in CA and the Southwest during summer with just ACs. What will happen when you throw on demand of millions of EVs ?????
@@BrianfightingmadTexas has had its power problems lots of them from brown outs to black outs I live there so you can’t call BS. California this summer already has asked people not to charge their EV’s a few times. This video is BS.
Refining Oil requires vast amounts of electricity, as the need for requiring Oil decreases so vast amounts of electricity will be released to grid for EV use, simply put, if we stopped refining oil there would be more than enough electricity to power all ICE cars converted to EV's
This is complete nonsense and misinformation. It takes ~8.4 kwh of electricity to refine one barrel of oil which itself contain ~1700kwh of stored energy. This is why oil is such an efficient energy source and why it is so difficult to get rid of it.
@@RiverRatWA57 CMEs like the Carrington event are a potential nuisance in parts of the northern lands and Atlantic coast; not at all here in the US Southwest. All that is required is to take the lines out of service before anything bad happens; the damage is caused the the CME superimposing DC on the lines. At a point where the DC current from the EMP and the peaks of the AC current reach the saturation point of transformers, the current spikes spectacularly before the line trips off. Measures are already in place.
The major fact is each EV company has a different way of charging which means a different load for the grid and all charging at ones pluse are house. See you in the dark ages.
1year later and all your wishful thinking is proving false. Government beuracracy is Killing much needed upgrades to the grid, particularly transmission lines. We clearly need much more efficient EVs, like Aptera.
We need to concentrate on natural gas production and next-generation nuclear power because wind and solar schemes are incurably energy inefficient and costly. "EV emissions realities start with physics. To match the energy stored in one pound of oil requires 15 pounds of lithium battery, which in turn entails digging up about 7,000 pounds of rock and dirt to get the minerals needed-lithium, graphite, copper, nickel, aluminum, zinc, neodymium, manganese, and so on. Thus, fabricating a typical, single half-ton EV battery requires mining and processing about 250 tons of materials. (These figures hold roughly true for all lithium chemistries.) For the carbon-counters tracking such things, the global mining and minerals sector uses 40 percent of all industrial energy-dominated by oil, coal, and natural gas-and that’s before we take into consideration the massive expansion that would be required to supply all the battery factories planned for widespread EV adoption." - Mark P. Mills from "Electric Vehicle Illusions."
THEY WILL!!!! BECAUSE FAST CHARGING WILL WASTE MOST OF THE ELECTRICITY!!!! CARB lies about the efficiency of EVs!!! In their ARB/MSD/7-6-94 they claim that battery efficiency is 80% and motor is 90%. These are lies!!!! Charging a battery in one hour is 5.88% efficient. In 15 minutes it is ONLY 0.3675%!!! While running it depends on how many stops are made. Every time the motor starts the motor and system efficiency are almost ZERO!!!!! The high motor starting current is also bad for the battery!!!!!
Why is the tax payer paying to improve the electrical grid? The bstds that own it and use it to make billions on the month should pay for it from their profits. This is a scary level of financial fascism.
There can't be competition when it comes to the grid because it would be hopelessly inefficient to have more than one. Therefore it should not be a private sector business. It should be owned by the public and managed for their benefit rather than seeking profits.
Not exactly taxpayers. It varies from state to state in the US, but here in Arizona it is ratepayers who pay for capital projects. I don't know where the idea of the infrastructure owners making money from it, but it is pure fantasy. The Fortune 100 electric company I retired from owns most of the transmission facilities in Arizona. FERC dictates the rates utilities pay to get their power from generator to consumers.
@@adrianthoroughgood1191 Some of it is privately owned, some of it is owned the the US Bureau of Reclamation (odd name, but not my choice).Rates are regulated on all of them by FERC. Amazing what one can learn working in the field for a Fortune 100 electric utility for 34 years.
Then why in Ca. are they asking people not to charge their cars during heatwaves? Ca. also has rolling blackouts when demand is high.
This is where electrical energy storage can really help. At charging stations, where it's possible for demand to exceed 1 megawatt, something like a Tesla "Megapack" could handle the peak demand, then charge back up when the loading on the grid is much less. At home, charging overnight really helps, if the charging ca begin after air conditioning systems are winding down. Such storage systems can also take advantage of intermittent renewable sources, like wind and solar when they're generating full power, especially if that happens during periods of low demand.
Air conditioning is the much bigger problem. Most EV owners charge their cars at home at night. Peak electricity demand occurs on the very hot days when everyone turns on their AC.
I've heard a lot of it is california can supply the electricity their infrastructure is just old and shitty and I guess they don't wanna go upgrade it. There are high risks of popping an old transformer in the woods and then they have a new massive forest fire on their hands that I believe they are financially responsible for.
12:00 Magical thinking starts here
This was an excellent and informative video!
The nation definitely needs to upgrade the infrastructure.
Knowing this I wonder if Texas will be doing the same?
They have a completely secluded electrical grid specifically for their state.
Thank you for watching! Texas is actually reasonably suited to build out its infrastructure. There is tons of supplemental wind power in the west part of the state.
Thank you so much!
- Craig
@@EVPulse My concern is how efficiently Federal money will be spent. A lot of "shovel-ready" money for prior infrastructure improvements seems to have vanished into thin air. Totally agree that the grid can easily be upgraded for EVs, but there's no time, or money, to waste.
I retired after 34 years as an IT Field Technician for a Fortune 100 electric company; my two specialties were wide area communications and protection schemes for transmission and distribution; I was the IT guru for the newly installed Smart Grid system in Flagstaff back in 2010.
I see this video as mostly right, but the sources are not talking about the right things. Capacity per se is a relatively small part of the reliability picture: everybody overlooks stability, even though it is a major factor in most wide ranging blackouts.
Mostly good news: in the 20th century protection schemes were almost entirely plagued by overkill. Since trigger events were a matter of looking for faults on a line, there was only one way to deal with instability - the leading cause of blackouts: cut lines and facilities in the clear! Bring it all down for as far as it takes, then try to restore pieces one at a time. IMPORTANT LAW OF PHYSICS: generation must equal loss plus load every second or so. The First Law of Thermodynamics sez so. For this very reason relatively minor events in the Pacific Northwest (including a filbert tree being a bit too tall under a transmission line in Oregon) resulted in blackouts to most of the western US on August 10, 1996.
The good news is that in the past couple decades a relatively new stabilizing system has been implemented. It is based on a (redundant) data network that shares voltages, currents, and phase angles to intelligently trip off lines that are pushing the system over the edge. The system, known as Remedial Action Scheme (RAS) is a growing part of system stability.
That brings us to everyday stuff, but with technical aspects. Generation falls in two categories: dispatchable (available on demand) and non-dispatchable (available when the stars align right. Fossil and nuclear plants are dispatchable sources; solar, wind, and hydro is not. (Hydro is dependent on upstream precipitation.) Geothermal is dispatchable, nearly all other renewable sources are not. Stability depends on enough dispatchable power being available after load is shed if necessary.
Bottom line: the adoption curve will probably stay within the proactive measures curve if we are smart. We need to be sensible about relying too much on non-dispatchable power like solar and wind. Use them when the margin is good but relieve them when the margin is not. Non-dispatchable is not like nitroglycerin, but it is waiting for us to make mistakes.
The grid can easily handle the demand of EV charging, if there was sufficient electrical energy storage at the charging sites. Something like a "Tesla Megapack" would handle full rate charging any time of day, and would not burden the grid during peak hours, because it could charge during off-peak hours, and take advantage of the power available from wind and solar when that's available. Because it can put a steady load on the grid, the average energy can be much greater, even with a slight reduction of peak load. It would end curtailment of wind and solar, allowing those assets to operate at their maximum capacity factor. That helps lower the levelized cost of energy from renewables, and most importantly, greatly reduces the need to upgrade the infrastructure. It is much less expensive, and much easier to get a permit to park a container-sized battery system in a charging lot, than to erect hundreds of pylons, and run miles of high tension power lines.
Moved into my house in 2003 and my electric bill was $100/mo. Now in 2023 my electric bill is still $100/mo despite adding an BEV and AC. How, all lights changed to LEDs, outside lighting changed to day/night motion detection, STAR energy appliances, low power computers and displays, low-e windows, insulation, etc. From that perspective I have a net gain of about $300/mo, what I used to pay for diesel and diesel vehicle service/maintenance and the house resale value has greatly increased by almost $100K over normal appreciation.
Air conditioning, the peak daytime load is the main issue. AC loading greatly increases with hotter summers. AC unit count will also increase worldwide from 1.9 billion in 2020 to 5.5 billion units in 2050 (IEA). EV charging is a peak night time load. Bottom line: If the grid can handle peak daytime in the summer it will generally be able to handle the night. A crap ton of $ will have to be spent improving the grid, but not for the reason you think.
If there is enough production capacuty off peak and over 90% of charging is done during the night, grid would do just fine.
ACTALLY, EVs will BOLSTER the grid. All EVs need to be using a Bi-Directional charger. One that puts juice INTO
the EVs battery pack as well as take juice OUT of the battery pack so the grid can use it. As we speak there are
some 9M EVs on US roads. It works like this>>>
You come home from work or a trip & plug in. Your charger tops off your battery pack THEN the charger switches
making your battery pack capacity available to the grid to run your neighbors ac or do his laundry. In the wee hours
of the morning. your charger will switch back & top off your battery pack once more getting you ready to start your
day. Problem Solved. The US grid does not need to increase its capacity because all these EVs WILL BE the
increased capacity.
!
Right! Cars with larger than needed batteries are essentially grid storage. Imagine being paid to plug in!
There are serious problems with that vision, though. There is nothing to regulate such unsolicited power; it is not very different from trying to drive with the engine power doing whatever it wants to do. Blackouts are commonly caused by instabilities. Numerous homes backfeeding the retail electric system is a condition that will have to be well-controlled.
Live in uk and my ev only run off solar pv
Everybody plug their EVs to charge at night 🤷 at same time 🤔
Everybody switches off every household appliance at night and goes to bed .at the same time
This isn't a worry... very soon, you'll plug in and utilities will give you the best rate for allowing them to schedule you.
@@lsh3rd True - provider control over load is a _big_ and rapidly growing thing. In Arizona we have had many "offers" from Arizona Public Service (I retired from there five years ago) to give me a Nest thermostat that they would control... but they rarely mention that last bit.
What could go wrong? About a decade ago the thermostats in our admin building here in Flagstaff were taken over by the system in Phoenix. It set the thermostats to about 80 degrees, which cause our heater to go on in the summer morning. Hey... the outside temperature was nearing 100F in Phoenix so the whole state should be set that way.
Ha that part
I’ve been charging my EV’s at home for 3 years now. What blackout?
Exactly, however, if everyone and their brother starts charging an EV, problems could begin cropping up. Still, power companies are aware of this and investments are being made.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
- Craig
@@AutoEsoterica Speaking of investments: policies differ from state to state, but here in Arizona providers are responsible for maintenance costs and ratepayers are responsible for capital projects. The process is: 1) the need is identified 2) the cost is projected 3) the proposal is put before the Corporation Commission which rejects or accepts the proposal to raise consumer rates. If rejected, the job is shelved. If accepted, the project becomes real, with materials being purchased, right-of-ways (already negotiated) purchased, and manpower scheduled.
This may be the least predictable part of adjusting to EVs: sticker shock among ratepayers. Fortunately, it is a long process and outrage wanes in time.
And what about all of those electric Semi's that will be delivering those goods across the country...........🤔🤔🤔
Still not a problem, if the charging sites have electrical energy storage to handle the peak demand, and can charge at a limited but steady amount of power from the grid. If the grid voltage sags from high demand, the batteries don't charge.(the head of the "duck curve") If the wind kicks up, and the voltage rises, Or the sun comes up and solar panels produce maximum power, (the back of the "duck curve") the batteries charge. When the demand on the grid goes down at night, that's when the "Megapacks" charge back up, ready to fast-charge the next semi. It would be much faster and less expensive, to install something like Tesla "Megapacks", than to upgrade the infrastructure to be able to charge trucks and busses at 750kW to 1 megawatt charge rates each. A big battery can simultaneously charge several commercial vehicles at once at maximum power, where as the grid would be hard pressed to supply that kind of load at the same time. It would be nearly impossible, during peak hours.
That's even easier because the charging patterns are predictable.
@@vincentrobinette1507 provided that the Mega battery manufacturers can keep up with the demand for all of these charging stations.....🤔🤔
The utility companies are in business to make money for themselves and their shareholders. They will do whatever is necessary to produce enough power to charge the EVs that plug into their service. Smart utility companies are decentralized their grids and supporting solar panel installations on every appropriate rooftop in their areas.
Well, the answer is NO provided that your produce enough energy by whatever means and have an efficient and reliable distribution system. It requires a lot of planning and investment. If you just seat back and relax you will have huge problems. EV adoption can easily grow 10, 20% over year, but electricity generation and distribution will not grow as fast as.
Electric class 8 truck charging requires 1,000KVA for each charging stall. That is so far above our current capacity you don't even have to do the math. It's like, can I haul 50,000 lbs in my Honda Civic.
Truck chargers have to powered from batteries at the charging site that recharge slowly at times of low grid demand then output fast when a truck pulls up.
What's crazy is electric company puts energy savers on your home for your air conditioning. This allows them to shut off certain areas during peak times. Pretty much you don't have control over your air-conditioning settings because they shut you off when they feel like it.
They want to make electric vehicles? Lol that makes no sense!!! Specially makes no sense when power goes out just from a storm. Can't charge electric vehicle if that happens.
Batteries, freeze and explode so I'm curious how that's gonna work. Not only our batteries extremely expensive and you better be rich in order to replace your batteries in your electric vehicle, but the old ones will still be going to landfill. You didn't really clean the Earth, with your electric vehicle.
Gas cars you fill and go, electric cars you sit and wait. You smashing into another car with your battery car and kaboom there's all your battery acid everywhere eating through everybody's skin and everything around it. Sounds like a horror movie.
Sir, this is a Wendy's.
Something that has me worried is that with everybody adopting into new or used EV's , no one is talking about any kind of conversion happening from (ICE) vehicles to electric.
The junk yards that exist today are just going to end up being filled with a bunch of internal combustion vehicles.
Hopefully in the future the Auto industry can can agree on using one specific battery type that's most efficient, swappable, and can be charged with WiTricity.
And hopefully in the not-so-distant future there will be kits to convert ICE cars to electric.
For instance: I have an 09 CRV. If I can get a Tesla axle, or figure out how to put hub motors in my rear wheels And strong enough battery, I might be able to electrify my existing vehicle.
I know that's a pipe dream, but I don't see any outfitters in the market trying to convert.
I love my car, it serves my needs, only problem is that it runs on gasoline.
There are some people that are in the UK are "electrifying classic cars, " but there are no mainstream organizations in the US for this growing need.
Again thanks for watching :)
Some folks are already converting gasoline-powered cars to electric. While there aren't a ton of "kits" yet, the aftermarket is doing what it does best and is working to figure out the problem. Additionally, I know several enthusiasts who will be converting their gas-powered vehicles to EV because the propulsion isn't why they're attracted to it.
Our own Chad recently had a very long conversation about this on the Unnamed Automotive Podcast: www.unnamedautomotivepodcast.com/316
We also want to do more content like this in the future, as resources become available.
Genuinely thanks for taking the time and commenting!
I'm currently in the process of re-engining my '86 Isuzu Trooper, I'm planning on getting many more years out of it.
I like my little 'Slug', it's not zippy like most of the vehicles out there, I don't care, I'm not in a hurry to get around.
No more so than now. People aren't going to scrap a perfectly good combustion car, just to buy an electric. When their cars finally reach the end of their useful lives, they will merely replace them with electric cars. The number of scrapped combustion cars per year won't change. The transition to electric vehicles will be by attrition. There won't be a "Cash for Clunkers" program, like there was back in the '80's.
Edison motors in Canada art making conversation kits, though they are focussed on trucks and pick ups. Not sure if they do kits small enough for cars.
The grid is already failing. Look at all the rolling blackouts in CA and the Southwest during summer with just ACs. What will happen when you throw on demand of millions of EVs ?????
When was the last California grig failure?
I find it funny how you never mention texass
@@BrianfightingmadTexas has had its power problems lots of them from brown outs to black outs I live there so you can’t call BS. California this summer already has asked people not to charge their EV’s a few times. This video is BS.
@@BrianfightingmadI find it funny how oblivious you are.
@@kawhiiee how's it feel to know your dear leader is going to prison?
Look at NSW asking people to minimise their use of air conditioners during 5pm - 9pm as there was a concern over demand for electricity
Refining Oil requires vast amounts of electricity, as the need for requiring Oil decreases so vast amounts of electricity will be released to grid for EV use, simply put, if we stopped refining oil there would be more than enough electricity to power all ICE cars converted to EV's
This is complete nonsense and misinformation. It takes ~8.4 kwh of electricity to refine one barrel of oil which itself contain ~1700kwh of stored energy. This is why oil is such an efficient energy source and why it is so difficult to get rid of it.
Yes
Once Aptera is in full production dependence on the grid will be a thing of the past. Cordless ev's are on the way!!
Not everyone will drive an Aptera, but those who do (you and I) will certainly help.
An EMP will destroy the Power Grid .
Ok
@@EVPulseHave we forgotten about the Carrington event in 1859????
@@RiverRatWA57 CMEs like the Carrington event are a potential nuisance in parts of the northern lands and Atlantic coast; not at all here in the US Southwest. All that is required is to take the lines out of service before anything bad happens; the damage is caused the the CME superimposing DC on the lines. At a point where the DC current from the EMP and the peaks of the AC current reach the saturation point of transformers, the current spikes spectacularly before the line trips off. Measures are already in place.
An EMP means nuclear war. Bulk electric power is the least of our concerns.
The major fact is each EV company has a different way of charging which means a different load for the grid and all charging at ones pluse are house. See you in the dark ages.
Not if we switch to a PULES generators GRID
Where you can come home plug your house into the EVs sit back and get free power for your home .
Did Netflix destroy the internet?
1year later and all your wishful thinking is proving false. Government beuracracy is Killing much needed upgrades to the grid, particularly transmission lines. We clearly need much more efficient EVs, like Aptera.
germany will literally ration the amount of electicity for every "peasant" NEXT year - no joke, seriously...
Nothing solar panels, a power inverter, and a big battery couldn't fix!
@@vincentrobinette1507 So about $30-40k of infrastructure for a single home? Who will pay?
or anti ev people lol 😂
We need to concentrate on natural gas production and next-generation nuclear power because wind and solar schemes are incurably energy inefficient and costly.
"EV emissions realities start with physics. To match the energy stored in one pound of oil requires 15 pounds of lithium battery, which in turn entails digging up about 7,000 pounds of rock and dirt to get the minerals needed-lithium, graphite, copper, nickel, aluminum, zinc, neodymium, manganese, and so on. Thus, fabricating a typical, single half-ton EV battery requires mining and processing about 250 tons of materials. (These figures hold roughly true for all lithium chemistries.) For the carbon-counters tracking such things, the global mining and minerals sector uses 40 percent of all industrial energy-dominated by oil, coal, and natural gas-and that’s before we take into consideration the massive expansion that would be required to supply all the battery factories planned for widespread EV adoption." - Mark P. Mills from "Electric Vehicle Illusions."
No
Still hopes Tesla makes a Hybrid. in the future
for Frozen Tundra winters where i live.
THEY WILL!!!! BECAUSE FAST CHARGING WILL WASTE MOST OF THE ELECTRICITY!!!! CARB lies about the efficiency of EVs!!! In their ARB/MSD/7-6-94 they claim that battery efficiency is 80% and motor is 90%. These are lies!!!! Charging a battery in one hour is 5.88% efficient. In 15 minutes it is ONLY 0.3675%!!! While running it depends on how many stops are made. Every time the motor starts the motor and system efficiency are almost ZERO!!!!! The high motor starting current is also bad for the battery!!!!!
You are spouting utter nonsense.
With any luck EVs will remain pricey so as to delay the EV revolution.
Why is the tax payer paying to improve the electrical grid? The bstds that own it and use it to make billions on the month should pay for it from their profits. This is a scary level of financial fascism.
There can't be competition when it comes to the grid because it would be hopelessly inefficient to have more than one. Therefore it should not be a private sector business. It should be owned by the public and managed for their benefit rather than seeking profits.
Not exactly taxpayers. It varies from state to state in the US, but here in Arizona it is ratepayers who pay for capital projects.
I don't know where the idea of the infrastructure owners making money from it, but it is pure fantasy. The Fortune 100 electric company I retired from owns most of the transmission facilities in Arizona. FERC dictates the rates utilities pay to get their power from generator to consumers.
@@adrianthoroughgood1191 Some of it is privately owned, some of it is owned the the US Bureau of Reclamation (odd name, but not my choice).Rates are regulated on all of them by FERC. Amazing what one can learn working in the field for a Fortune 100 electric utility for 34 years.