I'm somewhat okay with it because using campaign skins in a ladder game feels fanfiction-y anyway. My problem with the high elf Sylvanas skin is that the high elf Sylvanas hero in the Undead Campaign wasn't designed to be player-controlled so her unit barely has any voice lines. And that wasn't addressed now that high elf Sylvanas is a playable unit in ladder games. Weirdly enough, Uther and Tichondrius have fairly sufficient voice lines. There were plans in the past for Uther to be playable in the Human Campaign so that's why voice lines were recorded for his hero unit. I dunno if the same is true for Tichondrius. After all, the ROC Undead Campaign suspiciously does not let you play with a dreadlord unlike the other races where you get to play with all of their original 3 heroes.
@@cis22 I can imagine for Uther being a playable character what could’ve been in a flashback where Medivh is telling the war between orcs and humans. But it could be before the human campaign.
From my experience using the original WC3 world editor (I do not have reforged) I think the reason the Blackrock blade master walk is so funky is it's using a "walk slow" animation instead of a normal or fast.
The funniest part about the fat dreadlord is that it isnt exclusive to detheroc, but also to that guy from the final NE in ROC. He got out scott free while detheroc ate all the bullets and bullying for him
Im so happy with this 2.0 reforged. I still play the classic graphics but now i can play with Tichondrious skin and its amazing. Whoever at blizzard made this deserves a raise
WOW I had NO idea Grubby was still around, making content etc.. watching Grubby and playing Wc3 was so much of my childhood.. I just never got into wc3 reforged because I heard so much bad about it.. I'm about to buy it right now lol
Some people love the old graphic and others prefer the new. Doesn’t matter should be the same game, hopefully the fixed reforged graphics making the game run worse.
It would be interesting to see what combinations of Reforged graphics work -- like maybe you can have things look okay with Reforged Terrain, or Reforged Heroes and Units, but not Reforged Heroes and Terrain? And I agree about the Reforged Terrain looking blurry -- maybe that's why it's hard to see Reforged Heroes and Units on it.
This is that one blade master Stabbing his friends in the back Killing those who harvest lumber Wind walking, and back to base Also you, my dear readers Those who play as an undead You would like to be more careful Not to let him in your base
I was watching a video made by one of the re-reforged campaign creators and they make a point that the new terrain is more cartoony and doesn't fit the reforged style. It seems like it helps ppl playing multiplayer and using classicHD. But if you go full reforged, or are playing reforged campaign or custom reforged campaigns (like the warcraft 2 reforged custom maps) those terrains are now incompatible.
at starcraft 2 'wc3 evolution' mod have it this is sc1 vs sc2 vs wc3 haha another mod is 'azeroth-koprulu' this is more like sc2(but wc3) really i want see teamplay at wc3
i never understood wh Grubby retired so many years ago, even now he has on peak performance. While i do understood his points, even i miss my old days on WC3 tournaments on LAN.
They all drank it besides the Frost Wolf clan. The warsong got free from the curse but then drank it again in Warcraft 3 because they wanted the power to defeat the Night elfs.
When Grubby sees this as the most upvoted comment, he will gonna have the proverbial heart attack. But it's a religious-level issue for most people. It touches on the most basic aspects of aesthetics. I for one disliked the 2018 promo terrain, and it might have been in part thanks to me that we got Reforged looking as toxic as it is (no need to thank me UwU). - Adûnâi
am I the only one who feels extremely uncomfortable after playing 20 years with the same graphics? I cant even have 1 skin on without being totally out of it. it totally throws me off
Dude what? That blademaster skin graphics look off,, like it's from a completely different game awful looking and what did they do to the shadow shaman? he looks really bad now as well what are they doing to this game? please tell me there is a way to turn off these new shitty hero looks and have it look like regular classic..
Those are the reforged skins. You can toggle all of them on / off. Specifically you have WCIII Classic, WCIII HD, and then Reforged skins. You can toggle about 10 categories between these three "skinpacks". They look off because they are the only ones with the reforged skins, which is more a total reskinning inspired by rather than a HD upgrade. If everything was Reforged it would fit in better thematically but it's also not really the WCIII theme, so people that like WCIII really tend to dislike the Reforged skins. It's also just more clutter so from a metagame state it's harder to see what's going on. However a lot of the skins, like the dreadlord and paladin ones, only exist as a Reforged skin, as it was only made for that game and the distinctions never existed in the original game. Some skins work in both though, like Grom Blademaster or Arthas.
Where is your FPS bro? I really enjoyed 300fps you had before, but now it's kinda stattery here & there. is this a reforge setting that make this to you? Come on, you can tell me, i'm not gonna scream on them. Honestly.
Yeah if you play Classic mode it'll jump up. If you play on Reforged but toggle some of the Classic HD toggles on then you're running in the Reforged engine which has big problems especially with variable stutters.
Grubby, would you come out of retirement if jake paul challenged you to a 1v1?
Jake would only challenge Grubby if he was 30 years older, had stomach ulcers and a hurt knee.
For $20 million, I'm sure he would.
It's weird to have High Elf Sylvanas Windrunner with Undead Sylvanas' abilities.
Same, like having Arthas or Thrall fighting some random battle and lose xD
I'm somewhat okay with it because using campaign skins in a ladder game feels fanfiction-y anyway.
My problem with the high elf Sylvanas skin is that the high elf Sylvanas hero in the Undead Campaign wasn't designed to be player-controlled so her unit barely has any voice lines. And that wasn't addressed now that high elf Sylvanas is a playable unit in ladder games.
Weirdly enough, Uther and Tichondrius have fairly sufficient voice lines. There were plans in the past for Uther to be playable in the Human Campaign so that's why voice lines were recorded for his hero unit. I dunno if the same is true for Tichondrius. After all, the ROC Undead Campaign suspiciously does not let you play with a dreadlord unlike the other races where you get to play with all of their original 3 heroes.
@@cis22 I can imagine for Uther being a playable character what could’ve been in a flashback where Medivh is telling the war between orcs and humans. But it could be before the human campaign.
@@cis22 And in the game mod tool there were night elf war ships too. It was planned before it was scrapped.
Same with hots lol
that blade master walks like he crapped his pants
Its just embarrassing to see him like that in reforged model version. Stupid blizzard for acting like amateurs
@@pinroshan020they are amateurs lol, non of the OG team is at blizzard anymore
The disrespect for poor Dethoroc, man was shredded in OG and now look at him. His brothers Balnazzar and Varimarthas looking good and here he is 🤣
From my experience using the original WC3 world editor (I do not have reforged) I think the reason the Blackrock blade master walk is so funky is it's using a "walk slow" animation instead of a normal or fast.
The funniest part about the fat dreadlord is that it isnt exclusive to detheroc, but also to that guy from the final NE in ROC.
He got out scott free while detheroc ate all the bullets and bullying for him
Yeah, Anetheron. He was also in the Dreadlord's convene cutscene in the Undead Campaign
20:20 I love the compliments here as well as 20:28 - so much love
22:20 I can see Grubby in a hooded cape quoting Medivh from WC3 human cinematic.:
"The warning has been given, their fate is now their own."
i will not play WC3 but i will watch any WC3 content that comes out
Im so happy with this 2.0 reforged. I still play the classic graphics but now i can play with Tichondrious skin and its amazing. Whoever at blizzard made this deserves a raise
Sick they added after covid me as skin
:D :D
It's so nice of them to add an average WC3 players' body type into the game.
22:50 love that feedback and yet the still make him look like a mix of some drill seargant and JK Simmons' Jonah Jameson from Spiderman
Whoever said, “WHAT MORSEL” that sh*t was funny af
I am hoping that now that Microsoft is forcing Blizzard to work on Warcraft again, we will one day get SD graphics version of every reforged skin
Loving the new HD series x5 ⭐️
detheroc had too many stroopwaffle and bitterballen
Too much goyslop
@@thecringekid5744Sloplord
1:40 grubby's cat walk is indeed S tier stuff for youtube 🎉🎉
can't imagine how thrilled I will be if they have bronze champions like Baber to play tournaments lol
WOW I had NO idea Grubby was still around, making content etc.. watching Grubby and playing Wc3 was so much of my childhood.. I just never got into wc3 reforged because I heard so much bad about it.. I'm about to buy it right now lol
Watch the one he casted tyler1 and other streamers playing WC3, very entertaining.
Finally, I can watch Warcraft Reforged instead of the old Warcraft 3
Some people love the old graphic and others prefer the new. Doesn’t matter should be the same game, hopefully the fixed reforged graphics making the game run worse.
That Detheroc model is glorious! I love it
It would be interesting to see what combinations of Reforged graphics work -- like maybe you can have things look okay with Reforged Terrain, or Reforged Heroes and Units, but not Reforged Heroes and Terrain?
And I agree about the Reforged Terrain looking blurry -- maybe that's why it's hard to see Reforged Heroes and Units on it.
25:28 Best applause timing
Buzzcut Uther comment almost killed me. Btw those birds passing by the screen a million miles per hour when you were in human base are so bad.
Definitely a Tier S Hero, that'd make me more want to toggle Reforged Heros on! He's so rotund!
The reforged panda custom skin ult skill looks amazing! one of the 3 pandas uses a totem like taurens
new ladder dont work for me i get "failed to retrieve data" after every game and it dosent count
This is that one blade master
Stabbing his friends in the back
Killing those who harvest lumber
Wind walking, and back to base
Also you, my dear readers
Those who play as an undead
You would like to be more careful
Not to let him in your base
If they continually add skins and patch the game it will add another 10 years to this game easily
so... A hundred and ten more years
legion doomhorn perfect item for a fel corrupted orc, and nurgle dreadlord is fitting
He walks like that because his muscles are so big
My only problem with this skin is that it should be a Pit not a Dread lord
Grubby retired from tournaments. He only does good deeds now.
Man Detheroc is an absolute unit
Mannoroth is a usable as a skin too? Because if so.. should be cool to see him in action on a ranked :)
no force on heaven or earth will make me like reforged
Its kinda crazy how all these official hd skins look like badly imported custom skins in custom maps from back in the day.
only good thing coming from reforged, McSuperSizeLord
I actually like the dread lord skin
Admiral Proudmoure still uses Paladin's voice, right?
Quality update right there.
I have a question. Do you prefer silence or wind walk on dark ranger?
chat gooning on sylvanas and grubby's here for it
Classic HD looks better than Classic SD! I dig it!
Does your opponent also see you using your custom model for the blade master or do they see the standard blade master?
We got thicc Detheroc before GTA 6!
keep it up grubby!
Reforged was a conspiracy
those birds are weird by the goblin lab
Thumbnail @ 31:25
reminds me of the first instances of user-created models on hiveworkshop lol...
I was watching a video made by one of the re-reforged campaign creators and they make a point that the new terrain is more cartoony and doesn't fit the reforged style. It seems like it helps ppl playing multiplayer and using classicHD. But if you go full reforged, or are playing reforged campaign or custom reforged campaigns (like the warcraft 2 reforged custom maps) those terrains are now incompatible.
Love the Dreadlard skin
the heroes still kinda float when zoomed in huh, i think its the terrain thing, they just cant glue the heroes down properly or smtg
1:39 needs to be.a sub notification
I have owned "Many hackers" here in this game lol
This freaking chat keep talking tournament when he clearly say he DONT want to do tournament anymore! .. It's like talking to a brick wall
at starcraft 2 'wc3 evolution' mod have it
this is sc1 vs sc2 vs wc3 haha
another mod is 'azeroth-koprulu'
this is more like sc2(but wc3)
really i want see teamplay at wc3
It might be grubby it just might be
i never understood wh Grubby retired so many years ago, even now he has on peak performance. While i do understood his points, even i miss my old days on WC3 tournaments on LAN.
maybe cause he got a wife and a dog now and rather work from home, in which he has his wife and dog, just an assumption
@@budderk1305 indeed. But could at least play some online tournaments from time to time and stream it. XD
THAT is Reforged Dreadlord? WHAT HAVE THEY DONE!
Its just one of quite a few skins for the Dreadlord.
Detheroc eat too many Sylvanas cake
There’s like 6 dreadlord models to pick now.
Wtf is that the new blight for reforged?
IT looks too clean
I thought the Warsong clan drank Mannoroth's Kool-aid instead of Blackrock clan
They all drank it besides the Frost Wolf clan. The warsong got free from the curse but then drank it again in Warcraft 3 because they wanted the power to defeat the Night elfs.
as a person that have never played WC3 I can't see a single thing that's worse on reforged.
You should watch some videos showing the issues in reforged when it came out
What totras said also what it could have been. They promised a lot.
Tbh one of the reason i came back wc3 is to replay RoC, TFT and custom campaigns in reforged graphics
You answered it right there, you never played WC3, but trust me you will feel and see it after you compare.
When Grubby sees this as the most upvoted comment, he will gonna have the proverbial heart attack. But it's a religious-level issue for most people. It touches on the most basic aspects of aesthetics. I for one disliked the 2018 promo terrain, and it might have been in part thanks to me that we got Reforged looking as toxic as it is (no need to thank me UwU).
- Adûnâi
That’s how I play it’s 100 better to get those skins looks better
wc3 works on MAC again !!! wooooohooooo
Grubby you never got reinforced defenses I’m not sure if that was a mistake or on purpose? Great game tho 👍🏼
Now we see a a skin of Hero, and After this we Will see a skin of all race i hope🎉, how Remember name of this Blade master ( jubeitos) haha
Dreadlard, amirite?
No more DS?
am I the only one who feels extremely uncomfortable after playing 20 years with the same graphics? I cant even have 1 skin on without being totally out of it. it totally throws me off
Why can i never get one of those skins? Ive played like 30 games without any
Because you have to pick them
@Aerxis what do u mean pick them?
23:00 but thats one of the OG WoW haircuts m8. All the cool Paladins be running around like that.
WoW is cringe and is not canon
@@dolod777 I hope you are not a grown up lol.
The voice doesn't match his belly
Grubby i play maiev skin in single player, with icon reforged, and maiev icon is green 😂
Breadlord?
ReScammed skins next to classic models, it looks so hilariously out of place lmao
A lot of things have improved, but the shadow effects are still terrible. It looks like they're flying through space.
Blood mage, Paladin, Dread lord look so good, howeever DR looks shitty and too small for hero
These new terrains and doodads screwed up the reforged graphics. Now reforged is useless.
Grubby the guy with the worst mods in the history of twitch.
Dietheroc.
I do prefer old arthas paladin skin
Tier S skin 😆
All this effort on skins and graphics, they couldnt even do an expansion on the game. New units would freshen up the game.
Not fat! Body positive dread lord!
texture is fine, shadows are stupid, and motion is zero. compare to original game, motion is quite important
I dont get it why they made Detheroc this fat! It looks so ugly. In the classic one there was no sign of extra weight😅😅😅
Dude what? That blademaster skin graphics look off,, like it's from a completely different game
awful looking
and what did they do to the shadow shaman? he looks really bad now as well
what are they doing to this game?
please tell me there is a way to turn off these new shitty hero looks and have it look like regular classic..
Those are the reforged skins. You can toggle all of them on / off. Specifically you have WCIII Classic, WCIII HD, and then Reforged skins. You can toggle about 10 categories between these three "skinpacks".
They look off because they are the only ones with the reforged skins, which is more a total reskinning inspired by rather than a HD upgrade. If everything was Reforged it would fit in better thematically but it's also not really the WCIII theme, so people that like WCIII really tend to dislike the Reforged skins. It's also just more clutter so from a metagame state it's harder to see what's going on.
However a lot of the skins, like the dreadlord and paladin ones, only exist as a Reforged skin, as it was only made for that game and the distinctions never existed in the original game. Some skins work in both though, like Grom Blademaster or Arthas.
I want my direct strike back 🥲
reforged 2020 lmaooo
sound is so weird
Where is your FPS bro? I really enjoyed 300fps you had before, but now it's kinda stattery here & there. is this a reforge setting that make this to you? Come on, you can tell me, i'm not gonna scream on them. Honestly.
Yeah if you play Classic mode it'll jump up.
If you play on Reforged but toggle some of the Classic HD toggles on then you're running in the Reforged engine which has big problems especially with variable stutters.
The animations are so bad though :P
You can barely make out Sylvannas's sillouete too
Dethiccroc
New Reforge become Worst!
i hate this dreadlord skin jeez xd
Truth is orc is no longer op back when he did tournaments also doesn’t want to admit he is too old to be a champion
Anything from reforge looks ugly, for me
disliked at 1:35 because the take is simple af and lame, but will reconsider later