wow you hit a home run here, knocked it out of the park, excellent flight demo, i am suprised the elevons and servo linkages can instantly snap atitude reversals without tearing itself apart, your experiance makes it look so easy
To fix the tilting rotor problem, just replace the motor and servo control arms with one that has a symmetrical arm extending on the opposite side. Then connect the opposite arms together with steel wire. This forms a push pull system that will prevent the motor from flipping the opposite way.
Great video. Here's an idea to prevent the horn from getting bumped into the undesirable position: insert a toothpick or nail (if possible) into the foam right behind the horn, and have it stick out far enough so that the horn cannot be bumped past it. Another idea is to wrap some string around that area of the nacelle to add some girth and impede the horn from being able to get to the undesirable position.
Is there a way you could put something by the servo horn to keep the motor from going down 🤔maybe put a screw or something? I have been wanting a vtol for awhile but I didn't like how there were a few different versions of this and there were bad reviews on them I was pleased to see a newer version but still has that motor issue 😢✌🏽
some said just glue a toothpick or hot insert a screw to where the rod bends and the motors goes other way, it will prevent it. i have not tried it yet.
I have one of those from 4 years ago, with brushless motors, i dont even remember the brand. I flew GREAT 4 years ago, never a problem. All this is a rebranding, you know damn well one factory makes an rebrands for anyone, thats all this is!
A thought Ali. Why don't they just install the arms facing upwards? There is enough clearance on the props and that would allow them to mount a stopper in the plastic of the motor mounting arm to prevent the damn thing flipping through center? The flexible props used on the XK X520 (pretty near the same motors) are very durable even if the battery is upped from 2s to 3s! The stiffer blades on these are no doubt a smidge more efficient but not much use if they break every time they brush the grass! 👿
Do, any one know about charging the battery, are the red light and yellow light has to be on, after the charge it's complete??, can any one know about this
Looks very similar to the XK X450. Have you had success binding it to a multiprotocol module? An alternative could be a PPM, SBUS or DSMX receiver connected to the "5V satellite receiver socket" (XK X450 manual) on the flight controller. It worked for me with a Crossfire receiver (and FPV cam and range for miles), but the OpenTX setup wasn't easy iirc. I have the pinout somewhere if you're interested.
The "5V satellite receiver socket"" shown in the manual for the XK X450 is not a standard S-bus satellite socket (3-pins.) It is a 4-pin UART which is marked as for use as a GPS connector. I presume (but have never tested) that the other 4-pin socket is for a 4-pin camera input. Reconfiguring that GPS UART as an external receiver input would be beyond the capabilities of the average punter.
@@alishanmao oh. I was just curious. : ) My grand parents escaped the grip of the ccp before china fell. So, I feel a connection to china, but not to the ccp. They left and went to an independent nation, Taiwan. That is the reason I was curious.
This plane is very fast and cool. 3D is not for the beginner. Even 6G is risky due to the speed and potential actuating arm damage, but if you get it up high, 6G is fun. Great skill flying so low. I won’t be doing that. Price is good compared to other vtol aircraft.
Nice tips,yes I been looking at these this week ,current vtoll is the XK520,also looking at the XK450 but none currently for sale in NZ so pretty popular so on a waiting list at the moment, lot of fun the XK520 but needs big areas to fly unlike these more user friendly models.Thanks enjoyed the clip as usual 🛫🛬🚀🛩🚤🚁
I'll bet that you get a better flyin' to fixin' ratio with the X520 than any of these tri-mode tri-motor units! We have crashed the X520 royally and ours are still flying. They are fun to fly but our XK X450s require a new set of propellers and front motor rotating gear pretty-well every week that they see the air! 😱🙄
@@alishanmao ah yes lots of links but the problem comes at checkout lol,Our dollar convertion is low and costs me double and some or I'd buy everything, trying to be patient waiting ,but I need more,love the stuff
Yes also broke the nose like in one of your older clips but that's what super glue is for ha,,seem to go through few servos but they small and cheap ,not sure why but one always goes funny and tight
@@alishanmao oi amigo estou tendo poblemas na configuração das pás faz um video pra nós ou me explica oque e essa placa pra resertar ou se tem necessidade de resertar
Ali, Thanks so much for this. I am very interested in getting one of these, based upon your review, and I agree with all your points, with one exception. First, the inability to bind with my RadioMaster TX16S is a deal breaker for me. The LAST thing I want is another radio, so a BNF option would be great, allowing me to bind with my TX16S. Secondly, there's no doubt that better quality props would be attractive. Lastly, I totally understand the issue with the servo linkage going over-center, and I thought about fabricating a stop, but as you know, it all comes down to what is the weakest link? In other words, if we build a stop, when the motor tries to go too far will the stop cause the motor to get damaged (bent shaft) because its movement is now limited? So, if that's the case, flipping the linkage back to where it belongs is a small price to pay for more crash durability, so to speak. I may be off base, but it's just a thought. Either way, I'll be watching for your findings moving forward before I decide whether or not I will indulge in one of these. Thanks Again!
Waalaikum salam... Hi brother Ali ....can you help mi please... My radiomaster backup file is lose maybe deleted can you send me your backup that you use? Please.... Assalamualaikum....
Ciao vorrei comprare il drone elicottero w 500. O gia comprato il 450.? Ma non va piu lo consumato usato veramente tanto.ora vorrei comprare il w 500.quanto costa? Io sono in ITALIANO. COME FACCIAMO.GRAZIE ASPETTO RISPOSTA.CIAO.
That, I really hate: "You must _only_ use _our_ controllers with _our_ aircraft. You are not allowed to use it with anything else other than our own." Nice to see the closed/proprietary ecosystem starting to creep into the RC hobby by way of aircraft such as this. It has the potential to be amazing, yet the manufacturer here has shot themselves in the foot by saying "You must _only_ use it with _our_ controller & nothing else." That's the thin end of a very large wedge, where the manufacturer eventually retains full ownership of the product that you bought & paid for with your own money. Where you do not own the product, you are simply paying for the privilege of using the product. What I reckon would be a proverbial middle finger to the manufacturer would be to get a legacy protocol receiver, & bind it to one of your RadioMaster controllers & fly it with that. Or, better yet, put ExpressLRS on it, bind that to your RadioMaster & go fly.
do not worry, as i said, when I am back home after Thailand trip, I will sure experiment and set it up with Radiomaster EdgeTx. just like, ESKY said, sorry you can't use other radios, but i just made a video (going to upload make public soon) how to setup your 150EC ESKY helicopter with Edgetx radiomaster in a minute and fly it happily. I am sure ESKY will hate me for that LOL but hey, i am with my followers and end users :) you know that right. have fun buddy
wow you hit a home run here, knocked it out of the park, excellent flight demo, i am suprised the elevons and servo linkages can instantly snap atitude reversals without tearing itself apart, your experiance makes it look so easy
thank you
Hmmmm. It tickles my interest in that kind of drone. Omg. Such an amazing drone 😱😱😱. Beautiful
It really is!
To fix the tilting rotor problem, just replace the motor and servo control arms with one that has a symmetrical arm extending on the opposite side. Then connect the opposite arms together with steel wire. This forms a push pull system that will prevent the motor from flipping the opposite way.
Waw! It's same as Drone 😎
better than drone brother
Great video. Here's an idea to prevent the horn from getting bumped into the undesirable position: insert a toothpick or nail (if possible) into the foam right behind the horn, and have it stick out far enough so that the horn cannot be bumped past it. Another idea is to wrap some string around that area of the nacelle to add some girth and impede the horn from being able to get to the undesirable position.
Thanks :) for the tips
@@alishanmao Always a pleasure. Been following you for 10 years, your obedient machines are marvelous.
Great Video😊👍 come it with mode 2 out of the box? Greetings Hermann
Yes 👍
Thanks, I ordered one.☺️👍
I might need to check this out 😎
links are waiting
wow.. a new model, vtol? seriously.. that really great
Thank you So much. Appreciate it buddy. 👍🌹
What a cool plane! Saw someone with a similar one a Richmond when I was flying a while back!
it sure is a fun and cool plane to fly
Would of been fun duin some loops around the power lines 😂😂
Can you harrier it ?
yes
Is there a way you could put something by the servo horn to keep the motor from going down 🤔maybe put a screw or something? I have been wanting a vtol for awhile but I didn't like how there were a few different versions of this and there were bad reviews on them I was pleased to see a newer version but still has that motor issue 😢✌🏽
some said just glue a toothpick or hot insert a screw to where the rod bends and the motors goes other way, it will prevent it. i have not tried it yet.
I have one of those from 4 years ago, with brushless motors, i dont even remember the brand. I flew GREAT 4 years ago, never a problem. All this is a rebranding, you know damn well one factory makes an rebrands for anyone, thats all this is!
Ps ... I see NO DIFFERENCE in the performandfin this and the one I bought 4 years ago.
Maybe flying it you will feel different. It's more stable and improved flight performance. Thank you
이거 굉장하네요.^^ 감사합니다.
Thanks
Ali where can I get my hand on a hubsan spyhawk H301s?
No idea buddy. that thing is dead long time ago. hubsan just does the drones that are mostly faulty lol
MasyaAllah.
Menarik perhatian saya bro.
Saya pernah ada kapalterbang ini suatu masa dahulu.
Thanks buddy 👍😀
Thanks for sharing sir..nice rc
So nice of you
A thought Ali. Why don't they just install the arms facing upwards? There is enough clearance on the props and that would allow them to mount a stopper in the plastic of the motor mounting arm to prevent the damn thing flipping through center? The flexible props used on the XK X520 (pretty near the same motors) are very durable even if the battery is upped from 2s to 3s! The stiffer blades on these are no doubt a smidge more efficient but not much use if they break every time they brush the grass! 👿
good thought, hope they can engineer a better engineering Hahahaha
is it possible to run this plane with 2s lipo batteries? looks cool but if the weight were a bit lower it would be even better
you can but it will be under powered
Please tell My, if the late reléase, do the fix that issue? last month I buy this aircraft, please share your opinión
still same
@@alishanmao sorry about My question, anything we can do,to fix that issue?
Do, any one know about charging the battery, are the red light and yellow light has to be on, after the charge it's complete??, can any one know about this
Stick a pin 📍 in the side of the airplane to prevent the motors from pointing down.
a temp solution :)
Looks very similar to the XK X450. Have you had success binding it to a multiprotocol module? An alternative could be a PPM, SBUS or DSMX receiver connected to the "5V satellite receiver socket" (XK X450 manual) on the flight controller. It worked for me with a Crossfire receiver (and FPV cam and range for miles), but the OpenTX setup wasn't easy iirc. I have the pinout somewhere if you're interested.
not yet. i left it home and i am at the moment in thailand with family on vacation. when I get back home, i will do some experimentation
@@alishanmao enjoy your holidays!
I would also be very interested in that👍
The "5V satellite receiver socket"" shown in the manual for the XK X450 is not a standard S-bus satellite socket (3-pins.) It is a 4-pin UART which is marked as for use as a GPS connector. I presume (but have never tested) that the other 4-pin socket is for a 4-pin camera input. Reconfiguring that GPS UART as an external receiver input would be beyond the capabilities of the average punter.
hi are you still in china? thx
yes, i am. how can I help you?
@@alishanmao oh. I was just curious. : ) My grand parents escaped the grip of the ccp before china fell. So, I feel a connection to china, but not to the ccp. They left and went to an independent nation, Taiwan. That is the reason I was curious.
@@pokerchannel6991sorry to hear that. wish you all the best.
if you change something in the trim and then turn it off, then the trim is not saved, is that normal?
happens :)
@@alishanmao this is not user friendly 😱
This plane is very fast and cool. 3D is not for the beginner. Even 6G is risky due to the speed and potential actuating arm damage, but if you get it up high, 6G is fun. Great skill flying so low. I won’t be doing that. Price is good compared to other vtol aircraft.
Thanks for the info! i love flying it fast and low
Nice tips,yes I been looking at these this week ,current vtoll is the XK520,also looking at the XK450 but none currently for sale in NZ so pretty popular so on a waiting list at the moment, lot of fun the XK520 but needs big areas to fly unlike these more user friendly models.Thanks enjoyed the clip as usual 🛫🛬🚀🛩🚤🚁
I'll bet that you get a better flyin' to fixin' ratio with the X520 than any of these tri-mode tri-motor units! We have crashed the X520 royally and ours are still flying. They are fun to fly but our XK X450s require a new set of propellers and front motor rotating gear pretty-well every week that they see the air! 😱🙄
Thanks for sharing. You will get one in time :) check description for links
well these are fun planes and easy to repair too
@@alishanmao ah yes lots of links but the problem comes at checkout lol,Our dollar convertion is low and costs me double and some or I'd buy everything, trying to be patient waiting ,but I need more,love the stuff
Yes also broke the nose like in one of your older clips but that's what super glue is for ha,,seem to go through few servos but they small and cheap ,not sure why but one always goes funny and tight
Top amigo a minha fusilagem do fw450 chegou hoje vou fazer testes com ele primeiro depois ter caído logo vou montar a fusilagem
have fun. :)
@@alishanmao oi amigo estou tendo poblemas na configuração das pás faz um video pra nós ou me explica oque e essa placa pra resertar ou se tem necessidade de resertar
Hello, where can I get spare Part?
hmm check with the links in my description
☺️👀
16 out of 39 That’s 23 missing comments ??? See how long this stays up
something phishy going on with comments maybe
Ali, Thanks so much for this. I am very interested in getting one of these, based upon your review, and I agree with all your points, with one exception. First, the inability to bind with my RadioMaster TX16S is a deal breaker for me. The LAST thing I want is another radio, so a BNF option would be great, allowing me to bind with my TX16S. Secondly, there's no doubt that better quality props would be attractive. Lastly, I totally understand the issue with the servo linkage going over-center, and I thought about fabricating a stop, but as you know, it all comes down to what is the weakest link? In other words, if we build a stop, when the motor tries to go too far will the stop cause the motor to get damaged (bent shaft) because its movement is now limited? So, if that's the case, flipping the linkage back to where it belongs is a small price to pay for more crash durability, so to speak. I may be off base, but it's just a thought. Either way, I'll be watching for your findings moving forward before I decide whether or not I will indulge in one of these. Thanks Again!
Thank you for the tips. i will be doing more experimentation when i get back home in China. right now i am in thailand
👍
Waalaikum salam...
Hi brother Ali ....can you help mi please...
My radiomaster backup file is lose maybe deleted can you send me your backup that you use?
Please....
Assalamualaikum....
wassalam. I have my heli models here www.buymeacoffee.com/alishanmao/e/95021
Ciao vorrei comprare il drone elicottero w 500. O gia comprato il 450.? Ma non va piu lo consumato usato veramente tanto.ora vorrei comprare il w 500.quanto costa? Io sono in ITALIANO. COME FACCIAMO.GRAZIE ASPETTO RISPOSTA.CIAO.
follow the links in description. you can get it from there
That, I really hate: "You must _only_ use _our_ controllers with _our_ aircraft. You are not allowed to use it with anything else other than our own."
Nice to see the closed/proprietary ecosystem starting to creep into the RC hobby by way of aircraft such as this.
It has the potential to be amazing, yet the manufacturer here has shot themselves in the foot by saying "You must _only_ use it with _our_ controller & nothing else."
That's the thin end of a very large wedge, where the manufacturer eventually retains full ownership of the product that you bought & paid for with your own money. Where you do not own the product, you are simply paying for the privilege of using the product.
What I reckon would be a proverbial middle finger to the manufacturer would be to get a legacy protocol receiver, & bind it to one of your RadioMaster controllers & fly it with that. Or, better yet, put ExpressLRS on it, bind that to your RadioMaster & go fly.
do not worry, as i said, when I am back home after Thailand trip, I will sure experiment and set it up with Radiomaster EdgeTx. just like, ESKY said, sorry you can't use other radios, but i just made a video (going to upload make public soon) how to setup your 150EC ESKY helicopter with Edgetx radiomaster in a minute and fly it happily. I am sure ESKY will hate me for that LOL but hey, i am with my followers and end users :) you know that right. have fun buddy
@@alishanmao Excellent. I am looking forward to seeing that. =^/.^=
Look like plastic servos ,won't last long.
so far they are ok