These guys are getting paid millions and can’t be criticized? They won NOTHING until Brown got there. These new age players are soft af! These players just want their asses kissed and have ZERO accountability. Fox doesn’t know how to win and that’s trickling down to the other players as well. Everything with Christie is going to go well until he starts holding players accountable. He’s in the honeymoon phase of coaching, but at some point when that wears off, it’s going to be the same thing. When are these players going to wake the f**k up? The product that the NBA is putting out on the court is HORRIBLE. The NBA is losing fans!
Exactly! They aren’t great players in the NBA. Just because a player can score a lot doesn’t make him a great player. Say he’s a great offensive player. A great player is one that’s solid offensively, defensively and rebounds well, impacts the game on both sides of the ball. Sounds like Jordan, Kobe, and a host of others over the years!
Dude you know what also happened the same time Mike Brown got there? Signed Malik Monk (basically 6 MOTY both seasons), traded for Kevin Heurter (was shooting so well Durant brought it up publicly), drafted Keegan Murray (set the rookie 3 record shooting one of the best in the league that year), got Trey Lyles as a top tier small ball 5 (hasnt played that well since), and first full season with Sabonis on the team. All of those great players coming together for a proper 6 man squad, is what got us to 48 wins and then 46 wins last season (thats with non stop injuries all year and Malik Monk missing 12 games at the end of the season as well as Kevin Heurter, if Monk was there all season, we make the playoffs and surpass the previous seasons 48 wins) People that don't watch every Kings game, give SO much credit to Mike, and not to the TON of pieces that came at the same time as him here, and they didn't see how AWFUL he handled players minutes and rotations. Keon Ellis is arguably our best 3 shooter the last season and for sure this season, and Brown refuses to play him properly, even DNPing him several games. Brown lost the whole locker room, hell rooms say Sabonis disliked Brown way more than Fox, but you can't mess with minutes and rotations so much and talk bullshit about "if you perform, you'll get minutes" and then keep playing Trey Lyles and Colby Jones TOO MANY MINUTES at crucial points, who are TERRIBLE ALL SEASON, that's gonna rub all players wrong who actually contribute.
Except they were winning with mike malone buddy bogdanovic and fox? Not bringing back bogdanovic was the start of the demise. malik monk has been good but those players could have all been had collectively. Especially in todays nba. Managements snarky bullshit attitude and representation of sacramento as a sarcastic place full of assholes is really awful. From the social media on down the attitude and decisions have been piss poor since he took owmership. Kudos for tranforming the downtown corridor - but no thanks on pretty much anything else. Especially letting hometown winner Jordan Ford go. You lost me with that. He's done nothing but win since pre Folsom High days and has a spotless record plus great character. Another gripe is having stadium food. With all the great restaurants in Sac they have the opportunity to provide a culinary experience like no other city. The restaurants are literally a block away......like cmon seriously. For the quality of life thats so close by, wine country, tahoe and international access the Kings are horrible at attracting free agents. Like seriously seriously. Fans deserve more and are READY to do more than cowbells Kings need to quit being a stagnant franchise.
Phil Jackson's, Pat Riley's, Steve Kerr's, and other proven winning coaches call out their star players quite often! They gonna find out quick this wasn’t a smart move!
Derozan coming off the bench is the best possible scenario for the Kings right now besides obviously picking up new assets. The Kings were a top 5 offense in the league 2 years ago when they went to the playoffs under Mike Brown, they were touching the paint, spraying the ball, and shooting 3s efficiently while playing at an insane pace. They add Derozan the offense completely slows down switches to high guard screens to space the floor and get Derozan in the post which is great because he hits his shots but if the Kings just go back to their playstyle from 2 years ago let Demar come off the bench and then let him get into his post game it will fix the obvious lack of bench scoring problem for the Kings
You’re correct 2 years ago that they are winning & they are the 3rd in the west! But they didn’t keep the whole team! They let go Harkles, T Davies, Metu, De vicenso, D Mitchell & Harrison Barnes! So, they lost those players who can play defense & do hassle for the team!
@ he’s still balling out right now it’s a team problem, unfortunately they either need him to come off the bench and do what’s he’s doing right now or trade for a 3nD 4
Smh millionaire athletes... as if they didn't earn those millions. People who say this are extremely envious of professional athletes because you all don't think they deserve their pay. Those Billionaire owners earn millions in profit. If you think a coach is more valuable than the star players you're delusional. They are employees just like anyone else. I hope your boss stops pampering you . Who does this thousandnaire think he is. You don't deserve to be treated with dignity and respect. I guess your paycheck means it's ok to treat you like ish. You all only have this prospective Athletes because you all think it's good gifted and not hard work which is complete and total b.s. Those players 100% earned their paycheck. The NBA made billions in profit paying them millions remember that
Your best player doesnt equal the leader of the the team. Two diff things thats why great teams have vets who are the voice. Andre Iguadola was the leader of those GS Steph Curry rings, Steph obviously the best player. There's plenty of examples of This, from great teams.... the wheel was invented already. Stop giving theses players the franchise and make them earn it.
Nope. 😕 Even if this is true, there’s a game within a game. The kings were lucky to be in position to get a player who’s achieved as much as DeRozan to want to come there in the latter stages of his career. He had other offers on contenders for just as much money including the Lakers and the Clippers. You won’t get another star level player, on the decline or not, if you treat him like this. Kings management is trash but if you set that tone, it’ll trickle down to other possible recruits. I’m not saying they should’ve fired MB, I actually think they shouldn’t have given as much info as we have now, my only point is the Kings of all people can’t put a player like DeRozan on the bench and expect to get other players to want to come there.
DeRozan really hasn’t done shit though lol all he’s done is lose to Lebron and watch his team win a chip with Kawhi the year after he got traded. The game is faster than how he scores in the mid range and he can’t guard competent wings in his matchup. That’s why they suck now - they could get it together but it’s been pretty consistent with teams DeRozan ends up on 🤷🏾♂️
@@johnwinston4761 that’s exactly why he should come off the bench, cutting down his minutes might actually be a blessing in disguise because it keeps him fresh for when they need his shot making ability.. like you said, him being a starter clearly doesn’t elevate teams to another level.
So he kept Fox accountable and as a coach did his job and asked a player who said they’re willing to do anything to win, to come off the bench and he gets fired, I’m confused
Lou Williams definitely excusing the players from accountability...like HES THE COACH..if he feels certain players need to be called out or benched, his perogative
And Fox has said EVERY SEASON under Mike Brown that he really likes that Brown keeps him accountable. Literally he's said it in many interviews, over the last 3 seasons under Brown. It's ridiculous folks blaming Fox for why he's gone, more stuff has come out saying Sabonis had major issues with Brown, along with Monk and other important pieces on the team. Fox never complained about Brown or what he's done with keeping players accountable. But the locker room probably got pissed at Brown saying "if you perform, you'll get minutes" but then DNPs Keon Ellis, a dream 2 guard that shoots over 40% from 3 and plays fantastic defense, but gives too many minutes to Colby Jones who is trash in the NBA and Trey Lyles who hasn't been a consistent good player since 2022-23 season, he's been awful last two seasons. Brown's rotations and minutes are crazy.
No it's not Keegan, it's actually more Keon Ellis not getting time and Monk as well. Sacramento is a pace team, and Demar slows it down to ISO too much for his game, so you he's the odd peg out. Making him the 6 man, with our bad bench, would be perfect, cause you can slow it down with them and lead that unit to score most the points yourself and dish when appropriate. But the starters need to run and gun to perform, this team wins when they move the ball around a lot or the best shot and drive and kick and Demar, even though he can actually shoot the 3 well, always has to come inside when he catches it from out there even if he's wide open.
I swear Keegan playing trash this year shooting 28 from deep,just easy to blame derozan because he’s older,I wouldn’t come off the bench either for them,whenever a vet come off the bench the next step is out the league see how the lakers damn near had Russ out the league and the media wasn’t making it any better.. melo out the league because of it as well😂
They fucked up when a fast paced team picks up DeRozan... Hes a pick n roll iso player... He sucked the life out of Chicago they look better without him...
Fox, was not thrown under the bus. Fox ran in front of the bus with all of us watching, so if the coach can't speak on something that we all saw for ourselves...what are we doing. The NBA that I once loved is becoming harder to watch and even more impossible to follow. The NFL is a King with many mistresses (MLB, NHL, NBA & so on), but no Queen as of resent. If inside the NBA wasn't coming back, neither would I.
Remember, Inside the NBA will now be on ESPN 😬 going to be interesting to see how that changes it's dynamic.....hopefully not much. I'm hoping they still let Chuck, Ernie and the guys be themselves and not wack like ESPN's other basketball shows. But I agree, my interest in this new NBA is waning more and more. Pretty soon it will only be NFL, MLB, boxing and UFC for me. Basketball has already become mostly regional for me only watching my Lakers.....can't wait for LeBron to retire or go to another team, but that's a story for another day.....smfh
This is some lame rationalization from Lou Williams. His take on this is just pure garbage. No players are above getting criticized especially by the coach. Fox shouldn't be considered untouchable. He's not that kind of player. Why can't he be criticized? He's going to leave the Kings anyway and the kings will be stuck with an even worse team and the loss of an excellent coach.
Mike Brown is a multiple time Coach of the year winner. De'Aaron Fox is a one-time all-star... if anyone has the right to hold the other accountable (without getting fired), it's the coach, especially one that has the accolades Brown does. So De'Aaron needs to man TF up and take accountability. Now, they're gonna have to depend on Doug Christie, who has zero coaching experience to fix this team. What a joke.
Day 1 I had the prediction that when De'Aaron Fox and his agent Rich Paul went into the GM office a little over a week ago they either told Monty McNair either we're going to demand a trade or you need to hire Mike Brown 2-3 days later that's the main narrative I'm hearing now
The overall vibe from the press conferences and interviews I watched after coach Brown got fired was, oh well. Nobody seemed like they cared which is sad. As a Dubs fan I felt like he went in there and gave that franchise some direction and toughness.
What world are you smooth brain goobers living in the star player or players have always ran things. Hell Magic Johnson got his head coach fired and Pat Riley took over the team. Magic didn't like the style of play Westhead wanted to play so Westhead was gone. Guaranteed contracts gives star players a lot of power unlike football where the contracts for the most part are not guaranteed
1:40 Derozen coming off the bench Ginobili style to lead the 2nd unit is actually a great idea. Lou should know, more than most, the value of a great bench leader
Personally, I didn’t see Mike making them any better, he peaked and set up a great foundation but I actually think Cristie will do a great job and earn a permanent spot
I won’t lie. I agree with what he is saying. not saying Fox is the reason for losing but if the best player can take the talk then the rest of the team should follow. Also I think Derozan should come if the bench
Bro of course there is tension . They are on a 5 game losing streak at home and blew a huge lead against the Pistons . Its not always going be sunshine and rainbows . Mike Brown shouldn’t be the FALL GUY . The GM keep putting Guards on this team . We need a Forward and we could’ve drafted a talented one also and they drafted another Guard . Like the GM is equal to blame . The owner also for allowing the firing . Like a emotional
Popovich is still couching and has been since I was around 10 years old, I’m 38 now and not every year has the Spurs been relevant. The issue with these teams and players are that they don’t understand the coach makes all the difference in the world from being a .500 team with great talent. And a .720 team with guys nobody has ever heard of. I’m not firing my coach so that my star player will be happy, y’all men with a job to do and being paid handsomely to do so. Man up and get it together.
It's really difficult to build your franchise around a 6'3" player AND have serious championship aspirations. GS appears to have been the outlier. MEM put a lot of size & physicality around Morant. SAC needs an Aaron Gordon type player, along with Keegan Murrary & Sabonis. SAC could/should exploit their Point-Center opportunity much more, but for that to happen there needs to be a more deliberate ball distribution scheme, meaning more possession going through Sabonis, more touches for Keegan Murray, even at the expense of Fox. Why? Because they have the size and the talent. Front court size and talent, along with a talented backcourt should be maximized. But if they are all about selling more De'Aaron Fox merchandise & memorabilia, have at it.
These players soft, ain’t winning games, blowing leads, and blowing close outs. But can’t take a criticism. Deaaron has only been to the playoffs once. Bro has no leverage but he does. And that’s why the kings are trash. They let boogie run the organization for years and got no where
That bullshit the kings front office have no class, because when they want to trad for pascal siakam the front office was caught talking shit about him and he herd and say if they trad for him he will not resign with them
Look what happened to Mark Jackson after bringing the Warriors up from nothing. I watched Jackson coach his last game in LA.. . May 3, 2014 - .Warriros vs Clippers NBA Finals Game 7. I could not believe he was fired.
Fox is just not Him, just accept it and let everything through Sabonis and DeRozan and let Fox be the decoy. At this point it's about winning and not who's the best.
While the Kings did Brown dirty how they fired him. All these coaches coming out all crying and disappointed is pretty hilarious. At the end of the day, they still get the bag. Head coaches are are part of the sensitive club. One gets fired and all other coaches start trashing the dudes employer who fired them. It's like clockwork. What they dont say is how they still get paid 30-40 mill whatever it is. Yet theyre still going to cry 🤣 Maybe if you guys didnt suck at coaching you wouldnt. get fired.
First of all what the hell is wrong with telling perennial playoff choker Derozan to come off the bench?! Everybody knows he’s trash and not a winning player. Mike Brown cooked with that one lmaoo
At some point players need to be held accountable as well. It's not always the coach's fault. Ultimately, it's the players are the ones playing the games. The Kings have been awful this year despite having pretty much the same roster and adding DeRozan who may have not been a good fit.
NBA is a star driven league. You simply don't put your players ( especially your best player) under the bus 🚌, publicly. Doesn't matter if that , that in this particular case, Coach Brown was right. But the Kings didn't do themselves a favour, bu the dirty way that , they, fired Mike B.
The front office trade for DeRozan disrupted this teams flow. Last years team should have been kept together. The team is young with a young rising star in Fox. He grew last year and should have been given the chance with the dame team. DeRozan is a methodical mid range player that does not fit in todays NBA.
Fox looks for his numbers and a big contract. I don´t know if he really cares about winning. But on the other hand, if Brown doesn't have the support of his players, if he's not able to navigate that, he's not as good a coach as they say. To be a good coach you also have to be a good psychologist.
Different league. Not even a former winner gets a pass. Makes me wonder how much ego was involved. Because players aint always right. How much change has happened with the Lakers this year? Sacramento, the players, now need to show out.
These takes make no sense. It depends on if you take fox at his word and he said he didn't say anything and he backed mike brown in his extension. Demar wasn't a good signing and benching him was probably a better option. It's a gm failure in the roster. It's not a good roster.
Yeah, It's Karma, I vividly remembered Anthony Bennett, the Canadian who was the first round draft pick. He was stopped in his tracks by you know who. Anthony never recovered.
Fox is not a franchise player. How can you be a franchise player when your team has won nothing of note, ever? He is just another good basketball player. Not great.
No, GM at the time Vlade Divac is the reason we didn't draft Luka. Every other GM drafts the 6'9 "PG" scoring beast even if you have a really fast, who at the time didn't shoot the 3 that well, 6'2 PG and you just make BOTH OF THEM your back court.... essentially what Dallas has now lol.
Obviously something is not working Mike brown was trying to shake things up shit maybe Demar at this point in his career should come of the bench cause the last 3 teams where he start fuckin lose alot he should try to become a 6th man of the year
How you tryna bench a star player who just got here in the offseason 20 games into the season?! Huh?! At the point forget about Fox and Derozan the GM is gonna pack you up. You ain't giving it time to materialize what I set up. I think everybody wanted him gone. That's the only way you get fired this fast and just signing a long term deal.
The Kings are one of the lowest 3 shooting teams this season. Jesus, even if you don't watch the games, you can at least pull up the analytics and read the stats on teams/players quite easily.
I haven't watched a full NBA game in about 8 years. This product of the game is too soft, too three point happy and player complaining and getting big money for me. I just can't! 💯%💩
These guys are getting paid millions and can’t be criticized? They won NOTHING until Brown got there. These new age players are soft af! These players just want their asses kissed and have ZERO accountability. Fox doesn’t know how to win and that’s trickling down to the other players as well. Everything with Christie is going to go well until he starts holding players accountable. He’s in the honeymoon phase of coaching, but at some point when that wears off, it’s going to be the same thing. When are these players going to wake the f**k up? The product that the NBA is putting out on the court is HORRIBLE. The NBA is losing fans!
Sad part is this is the workplace everywhere.
Exactly! They aren’t great players in the NBA. Just because a player can score a lot doesn’t make him a great player. Say he’s a great offensive player. A great player is one that’s solid offensively, defensively and rebounds well, impacts the game on both sides of the ball. Sounds like Jordan, Kobe, and a host of others over the years!
Dude you know what also happened the same time Mike Brown got there? Signed Malik Monk (basically 6 MOTY both seasons), traded for Kevin Heurter (was shooting so well Durant brought it up publicly), drafted Keegan Murray (set the rookie 3 record shooting one of the best in the league that year), got Trey Lyles as a top tier small ball 5 (hasnt played that well since), and first full season with Sabonis on the team.
All of those great players coming together for a proper 6 man squad, is what got us to 48 wins and then 46 wins last season (thats with non stop injuries all year and Malik Monk missing 12 games at the end of the season as well as Kevin Heurter, if Monk was there all season, we make the playoffs and surpass the previous seasons 48 wins)
People that don't watch every Kings game, give SO much credit to Mike, and not to the TON of pieces that came at the same time as him here, and they didn't see how AWFUL he handled players minutes and rotations. Keon Ellis is arguably our best 3 shooter the last season and for sure this season, and Brown refuses to play him properly, even DNPing him several games. Brown lost the whole locker room, hell rooms say Sabonis disliked Brown way more than Fox, but you can't mess with minutes and rotations so much and talk bullshit about "if you perform, you'll get minutes" and then keep playing Trey Lyles and Colby Jones TOO MANY MINUTES at crucial points, who are TERRIBLE ALL SEASON, that's gonna rub all players wrong who actually contribute.
Preach 🙏🙏🙏
Except they were winning with mike malone buddy bogdanovic and fox?
Not bringing back bogdanovic was the start of the demise. malik monk has been good but those players could have all been had collectively. Especially in todays nba. Managements snarky bullshit attitude and representation of sacramento as a sarcastic place full of assholes is really awful. From the social media on down the attitude and decisions have been piss poor since he took owmership. Kudos for tranforming the downtown corridor - but no thanks on pretty much anything else. Especially letting hometown winner Jordan Ford go. You lost me with that. He's done nothing but win since pre Folsom High days and has a spotless record plus great character. Another gripe is having stadium food. With all the great restaurants in Sac they have the opportunity to provide a culinary experience like no other city. The restaurants are literally a block away......like cmon seriously. For the quality of life thats so close by, wine country, tahoe and international access the Kings are horrible at attracting free agents. Like seriously seriously. Fans deserve more and are READY to do more than cowbells Kings need to quit being a stagnant franchise.
Phil Jackson's, Pat Riley's, Steve Kerr's, and other proven winning coaches call out their star players quite often! They gonna find out quick this wasn’t a smart move!
You named all white males this is America.
None of those guys won anything without top 20 players alltime
Derozan coming off the bench is the best possible scenario for the Kings right now besides obviously picking up new assets. The Kings were a top 5 offense in the league 2 years ago when they went to the playoffs under Mike Brown, they were touching the paint, spraying the ball, and shooting 3s efficiently while playing at an insane pace.
They add Derozan the offense completely slows down switches to high guard screens to space the floor and get Derozan in the post which is great because he hits his shots but if the Kings just go back to their playstyle from 2 years ago let Demar come off the bench and then let him get into his post game it will fix the obvious lack of bench scoring problem for the Kings
You’re correct 2 years ago that they are winning & they are the 3rd in the west! But they didn’t keep the whole team! They let go Harkles, T Davies, Metu, De vicenso, D Mitchell & Harrison Barnes! So, they lost those players who can play defense & do hassle for the team!
I think who ever fired the coach could have done it with some decency and professionalism, that is all I can say ,please let's respect each other.
We also took bagley over Luka and Trae young
How when he was just balling out in chicago as a starter ? He didn’t come there for that let’s not blame him
@ he’s still balling out right now it’s a team problem, unfortunately they either need him to come off the bench and do what’s he’s doing right now or trade for a 3nD 4
Teams kissing ass and pampering millionaire's athletes.thats the problem
You have a point. But NBA is a players league.
No one is paying to see the coaches.
Thanks to Adam silver!!!! There has been an over correction from the David stern days - until now it’s the players way or no way!!!! It’s sad!!!!
dont forget kissing ownership ass
Smh millionaire athletes... as if they didn't earn those millions. People who say this are extremely envious of professional athletes because you all don't think they deserve their pay. Those Billionaire owners earn millions in profit. If you think a coach is more valuable than the star players you're delusional. They are employees just like anyone else. I hope your boss stops pampering you . Who does this thousandnaire think he is. You don't deserve to be treated with dignity and respect. I guess your paycheck means it's ok to treat you like ish. You all only have this prospective Athletes because you all think it's good gifted and not hard work which is complete and total b.s. Those players 100% earned their paycheck. The NBA made billions in profit paying them millions remember that
Fox needs to be traded. This kings needs leadership from their star not someone who doesn't take accountability whatsoever
jimmy butler all they need
@@jonathanchan1365Jimmy can't stay healthy
Nah he doesn’t need to be traded
Stop it
Ship him out ASAP
Your best player doesnt equal the leader of the the team. Two diff things thats why great teams have vets who are the voice. Andre Iguadola was the leader of those GS Steph Curry rings, Steph obviously the best player. There's plenty of examples of This, from great teams.... the wheel was invented already. Stop giving theses players the franchise and make them earn it.
Derozan as the 6th man (for any contender/ playoff team) is the perfect place for him to be in this part of his career.
Well said 👏🏽. On point
Nope. 😕
Even if this is true, there’s a game within a game. The kings were lucky to be in position to get a player who’s achieved as much as DeRozan to want to come there in the latter stages of his career. He had other offers on contenders for just as much money including the Lakers and the Clippers.
You won’t get another star level player, on the decline or not, if you treat him like this. Kings management is trash but if you set that tone, it’ll trickle down to other possible recruits. I’m not saying they should’ve fired MB, I actually think they shouldn’t have given as much info as we have now, my only point is the Kings of all people can’t put a player like DeRozan on the bench and expect to get other players to want to come there.
DeRozan really hasn’t done shit though lol all he’s done is lose to Lebron and watch his team win a chip with Kawhi the year after he got traded. The game is faster than how he scores in the mid range and he can’t guard competent wings in his matchup. That’s why they suck now - they could get it together but it’s been pretty consistent with teams DeRozan ends up on 🤷🏾♂️
@@johnwinston4761 that’s exactly why he should come off the bench, cutting down his minutes might actually be a blessing in disguise because it keeps him fresh for when they need his shot making ability.. like you said, him being a starter clearly doesn’t elevate teams to another level.
@@johnwinston4761he a good player that’s why he ain’t
Coming off bench that already got a great 6th man in monk
So get fired because a man is showing you he is not a starter so you talk to him about coming off the bench? Weak af
So he kept Fox accountable and as a coach did his job and asked a player who said they’re willing to do anything to win, to come off the bench and he gets fired, I’m confused
Lou Williams definitely excusing the players from accountability...like HES THE COACH..if he feels certain players need to be called out or benched, his perogative
This is why Dearron fox has never won anything he doesn’t wanna be coach Steph Curry got chastised by Steve Kerr and he said I want him to coach me -
And Fox has said EVERY SEASON under Mike Brown that he really likes that Brown keeps him accountable. Literally he's said it in many interviews, over the last 3 seasons under Brown. It's ridiculous folks blaming Fox for why he's gone, more stuff has come out saying Sabonis had major issues with Brown, along with Monk and other important pieces on the team. Fox never complained about Brown or what he's done with keeping players accountable. But the locker room probably got pissed at Brown saying "if you perform, you'll get minutes" but then DNPs Keon Ellis, a dream 2 guard that shoots over 40% from 3 and plays fantastic defense, but gives too many minutes to Colby Jones who is trash in the NBA and Trey Lyles who hasn't been a consistent good player since 2022-23 season, he's been awful last two seasons. Brown's rotations and minutes are crazy.
Today's NBA is soft and sensitive. The owners are making a profit in every market whether you have a winning season or not
The teams that don’t make a profit get money from the slush fund.
What's wrong with derozan coming off thr bench? He is killing Keegan, literally sucking the life
Keegan fell off last year. Derozan had nothing to do with that
The bench is what’s hurting the kings. Demar brings an added value to the bench. The lineup will be fine with Demar coming off the bench.
No it's not Keegan, it's actually more Keon Ellis not getting time and Monk as well. Sacramento is a pace team, and Demar slows it down to ISO too much for his game, so you he's the odd peg out. Making him the 6 man, with our bad bench, would be perfect, cause you can slow it down with them and lead that unit to score most the points yourself and dish when appropriate. But the starters need to run and gun to perform, this team wins when they move the ball around a lot or the best shot and drive and kick and Demar, even though he can actually shoot the 3 well, always has to come inside when he catches it from out there even if he's wide open.
I swear Keegan playing trash this year shooting 28 from deep,just easy to blame derozan because he’s older,I wouldn’t come off the bench either for them,whenever a vet come off the bench the next step is out the league see how the lakers damn near had Russ out the league and the media wasn’t making it any better.. melo out the league because of it as well😂
They fucked up when a fast paced team picks up DeRozan... Hes a pick n roll iso player... He sucked the life out of Chicago they look better without him...
So if the kings continue to lose then what ??
Fire the next coach two seasons from now
Kings lost after Mike was fired
They will continue to lose.
Fox, was not thrown under the bus. Fox ran in front of the bus with all of us watching, so if the coach can't speak on something that we all saw for ourselves...what are we doing. The NBA that I once loved is becoming harder to watch and even more impossible to follow. The NFL is a King with many mistresses (MLB, NHL, NBA & so on), but no Queen as of resent. If inside the NBA wasn't coming back, neither would I.
You would stop watching the Nba if inside the Nba wasn't coming back?? That's wild
Remember, Inside the NBA will now be on ESPN 😬 going to be interesting to see how that changes it's dynamic.....hopefully not much. I'm hoping they still let Chuck, Ernie and the guys be themselves and not wack like ESPN's other basketball shows. But I agree, my interest in this new NBA is waning more and more. Pretty soon it will only be NFL, MLB, boxing and UFC for me. Basketball has already become mostly regional for me only watching my Lakers.....can't wait for LeBron to retire or go to another team, but that's a story for another day.....smfh
This is some lame rationalization from Lou Williams. His take on this is just pure garbage. No players are above getting criticized especially by the coach. Fox shouldn't be considered untouchable. He's not that kind of player. Why can't he be criticized? He's going to leave the Kings anyway and the kings will be stuck with an even worse team and the loss of an excellent coach.
He’s not going to insult the players; so that he can keep getting the inside scoop.
Listen 2 foxes interview. He says, coach will B oK his contract is guaranteed. Strikes me as a strange thing 2 say, If U had nothing 2 do with it 🤔
Lou, nicely said, could be a spot as an analyst.
like fr! choice of words were remarkable and fluid!
Lou Williams is a great analyst/spokesperson!
100!
Mike Brown is a multiple time Coach of the year winner. De'Aaron Fox is a one-time all-star... if anyone has the right to hold the other accountable (without getting fired), it's the coach, especially one that has the accolades Brown does. So De'Aaron needs to man TF up and take accountability. Now, they're gonna have to depend on Doug Christie, who has zero coaching experience to fix this team. What a joke.
Day 1 I had the prediction that when De'Aaron Fox and his agent Rich Paul went into the GM office a little over a week ago they either told Monty McNair either we're going to demand a trade or you need to hire Mike Brown
2-3 days later that's the main narrative I'm hearing now
I remember Pop would curse Tim Duncan out. This whole NBA is soft nowadays. They don't wanna play in the games or take criticism.
Fox being a franchise player & a stud- When has he won anything? Yeah, a great player, but come on.
Fox immediately dismissed this narrative so yeah
Why.. Wouldn't he? This makes him look BAD.
Dwight Howard said he didn't try to get Stan Van Gundy fired but we know the truth.
Lou will is great at everything much respect
so him calling out fox was the reason
De’Arron Fox getting a LEAGUE-WIDE and well respected coach like Mike Brown fired WILL bite him in the ass and cost him money on his next contract.
Mike Brown is still owed $$$ sit back collect them checks get another job while still getting paid by the Kings
The NBA was the players league. Now it's a viewers league. Low viewers means less dollars 💵.
DeRozan should be coming off the bench
If u watch the kings you know derozan isn’t fittin….. he should be coming off the bench..
Very good commentary 🎉
He needs to come to the Clippers
Firing someone for doing their job is mad work
The overall vibe from the press conferences and interviews I watched after coach Brown got fired was, oh well. Nobody seemed like they cared which is sad. As a Dubs fan I felt like he went in there and gave that franchise some direction and toughness.
What world are you smooth brain goobers living in the star player or players have always ran things. Hell Magic Johnson got his head coach fired and Pat Riley took over the team. Magic didn't like the style of play Westhead wanted to play so Westhead was gone. Guaranteed contracts gives star players a lot of power unlike football where the contracts for the most part are not guaranteed
Fox is no Magic Johnson. At all. He also plays for the Sacramento kings not the showtime Los Angeles Lakers. Terrible comparison.
@Jonathan-pp3du Son like I said Star players can get a coach fired or get a teammate traded
The league is soft and this is one of the reasons why.
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Derozen coming off the bench Ginobili style to lead the 2nd unit is actually a great idea. Lou should know, more than most, the value of a great bench leader
Personally, I didn’t see Mike making them any better, he peaked and set up a great foundation but I actually think Cristie will do a great job and earn a permanent spot
they should resign Fox, they have no other choice. (they should have Draft Luka in the first place)
Of course it could have been handled differently, everything could be handled differently.
Lou giving the players a cop out. Dudes get paid millions to play a game and still want their asses kissed foh
I was like.. this guy reminds me of chandler parsons lolll 🤯😂
Ur allstar player has issues playing defense and leading his team
sounds like guys are not coachable
Demar and Lou are bff's ....the source is demar
Go Kings!
It did not make any sense for them to even pick up Demar derozan
Lou's Source: DeMar DeRozan LOL
If they fired him bec Fox is sensitive, nothing good is coming to the Kings.
I won’t lie. I agree with what he is saying. not saying Fox is the reason for losing but if the best player can take the talk then the rest of the team should follow. Also I think Derozan should come if the bench
Bro of course there is tension . They are on a 5 game losing streak at home and blew a huge lead against the Pistons . Its not always going be sunshine and rainbows . Mike Brown shouldn’t be the FALL GUY . The GM keep putting Guards on this team . We need a Forward and we could’ve drafted a talented one also and they drafted another Guard . Like the GM is equal to blame . The owner also for allowing the firing . Like a emotional
Players are too sensitive and don’t want the truth. At the end of the day , the players play the game.
Popovich is still couching and has been since I was around 10 years old, I’m 38 now and not every year has the Spurs been relevant. The issue with these teams and players are that they don’t understand the coach makes all the difference in the world from being a .500 team with great talent. And a .720 team with guys nobody has ever heard of. I’m not firing my coach so that my star player will be happy, y’all men with a job to do and being paid handsomely to do so. Man up and get it together.
It's really difficult to build your franchise around a 6'3" player AND have serious championship aspirations. GS appears to have been the outlier. MEM put a lot of size & physicality around Morant. SAC needs an Aaron Gordon type player, along with Keegan Murrary & Sabonis. SAC could/should exploit their Point-Center opportunity much more, but for that to happen there needs to be a more deliberate ball distribution scheme, meaning more possession going through Sabonis, more touches for Keegan Murray, even at the expense of Fox. Why? Because they have the size and the talent. Front court size and talent, along with a talented backcourt should be maximized. But if they are all about selling more De'Aaron Fox merchandise & memorabilia, have at it.
These players soft, ain’t winning games, blowing leads, and blowing close outs. But can’t take a criticism. Deaaron has only been to the playoffs once. Bro has no leverage but he does. And that’s why the kings are trash. They let boogie run the organization for years and got no where
That bullshit the kings front office have no class, because when they want to trad for pascal siakam the front office was caught talking shit about him and he herd and say if they trad for him he will not resign with them
Look what happened to Mark Jackson after bringing the Warriors up from nothing. I watched Jackson coach his last game in LA.. . May 3, 2014 - .Warriros vs Clippers NBA Finals Game 7. I could not believe he was fired.
Chef Curry killed them with that 50-ball in Game 7
Fox is just not Him, just accept it and let everything through Sabonis and DeRozan and let Fox be the decoy. At this point it's about winning and not who's the best.
While the Kings did Brown dirty how they fired him. All these coaches coming out all crying and disappointed is pretty hilarious. At the end of the day, they still get the bag. Head coaches are are part of the sensitive club. One gets fired and all other coaches start trashing the dudes employer who fired them. It's like clockwork. What they dont say is how they still get paid 30-40 mill whatever it is. Yet theyre still going to cry 🤣 Maybe if you guys didnt suck at coaching you wouldnt. get fired.
First of all what the hell is wrong with telling perennial playoff choker Derozan to come off the bench?! Everybody knows he’s trash and not a winning player. Mike Brown cooked with that one lmaoo
At some point players need to be held accountable as well. It's not always the coach's fault. Ultimately, it's the players are the ones playing the games. The Kings have been awful this year despite having pretty much the same roster and adding DeRozan who may have not been a good fit.
Why her mic so sharp? I had to turn my volume down when she talked and up when Lou talk.
I think demar coming off the bench might’ve happened but Fox has said many times he enjoyed Mikes style and liked being coached hard
NBA is a star driven league. You simply don't put your players ( especially your best player) under the bus 🚌, publicly. Doesn't matter if that , that in this particular case, Coach Brown was right. But the Kings didn't do themselves a favour, bu the dirty way that , they, fired Mike B.
"The obvious move for the 49ers at 6 and 9 (worse than 13 - 18 Kings) is to fire coach Kyle Shanahan." - Kings ownership
as a coach your are taking a big risk calling out the star players.
Mike Brown was fired by the Lakers in a similar way...while conducting practice...😮😮😮...WOW...😮😮😮...
The front office trade for DeRozan disrupted this teams flow. Last years team should have been kept together. The team is young with a young rising star in Fox. He grew last year and should have been given the chance with the dame team. DeRozan is a methodical mid range player that does not fit in todays NBA.
Also lou has to be getting his info from demar. He played with him and is the only one he really knows on the roster.
Fox looks for his numbers and a big contract. I don´t know if he really cares about winning. But on the other hand, if Brown doesn't have the support of his players, if he's not able to navigate that, he's not as good a coach as they say. To be a good coach you also have to be a good psychologist.
Politics just like Dinwiddie said. Fox was chosen over the franchise and coach L
Different league. Not even a former winner gets a pass. Makes me wonder how much ego was involved. Because players aint always right. How much change has happened with the Lakers this year? Sacramento, the players, now need to show out.
This whole new generation of players act like entitled babies with no desire to be accountable to anything
Fox, wherever you end up, you eventually need to GROW UP
Trade DeMar DeRozan and Malik Monk for Fred VanVleet and Jock Landale. Problem solved.
What Rich Paul wants, Rich Paul gets.
Fox said this aint true
Kings basically ruined demarcus cousins career. They got a Great Center and did nothing
Sabonis derozan monk are defensive liabilty. Derozan is slow and lazy on d and Harrison Barnes is hella a better fit.
Aww. Boohoo. This is looking so bad for Fox.
Derozan is a team killer
Lou political af, could they have handled the firing differently YES!
These takes make no sense. It depends on if you take fox at his word and he said he didn't say anything and he backed mike brown in his extension. Demar wasn't a good signing and benching him was probably a better option. It's a gm failure in the roster. It's not a good roster.
Beadle voice getting deeper with age. That testosterone kickin in
How long has she transitioned?
At lease he sign a new deal, he’s getting paid!
Hell yeah that derozan and fox got him fired
Come lou you went to magic City
When the you were in bubble my guy
You are a coach killer
Yeah, It's Karma, I vividly remembered Anthony Bennett, the Canadian who was the first round draft pick. He was stopped in his tracks by you know who. Anthony never recovered.
wtf are you talking about bennett was one of the biggest busts in nba history he couldnt play had nothing to do with brown
Demar should go off bench what exactly has he done but cry about leaving Canada? He was mid with spurs and bulls
Sunk and Defrozen
So pretty much coaches can't coach these divas
DDR s/b coming off the bench. Same w/ Monk. Keon Ellis s/b starting
Fox is the reason we didn't draft Luka, so you have to do what you can to keep him. He is the franchise.
A craping franchise. Fox can’t carry Luka’s bag!😂😂😂🤡
Fox is not a franchise player. How can you be a franchise player when your team has won nothing of note, ever? He is just another good basketball player. Not great.
No, GM at the time Vlade Divac is the reason we didn't draft Luka. Every other GM drafts the 6'9 "PG" scoring beast even if you have a really fast, who at the time didn't shoot the 3 that well, 6'2 PG and you just make BOTH OF THEM your back court.... essentially what Dallas has now lol.
Obviously something is not working Mike brown was trying to shake things up shit maybe Demar at this point in his career should come of the bench cause the last 3 teams where he start fuckin lose alot he should try to become a 6th man of the year
Brown > Fox
How you tryna bench a star player who just got here in the offseason 20 games into the season?! Huh?! At the point forget about Fox and Derozan the GM is gonna pack you up. You ain't giving it time to materialize what I set up. I think everybody wanted him gone. That's the only way you get fired this fast and just signing a long term deal.
Former star player.....
Because they take about between the two teams about over 200 threes a game
The Kings are one of the lowest 3 shooting teams this season. Jesus, even if you don't watch the games, you can at least pull up the analytics and read the stats on teams/players quite easily.
Some of these players are in the words of Kobe (RIP) SOFT!
I haven't watched a full NBA game in about 8 years. This product of the game is too soft, too three point happy and player complaining and getting big money for me.
I just can't! 💯%💩