From the people I have talked to: The A7 and Inzer sleeves are better for people with a narrow to medium stance The Iron Rebels are better for people with wider squat stances
Great video man I’ve been looking for a solid comparison on the new A7 and Inzer. I’ve had a pair of SBD since 2014 and I feel as if it’s finally time to get a new pair of knee sleeves so I just bought the A7 yesterday and I can’t wait 😭
@@nicoclansolcamp1223 I got them and it’s an insane difference compared to non-stiff knee sleeves. The only thing with the A7 is the sizing, I followed the size chart and spoke to a representative online and they recommended that I ordered an XL based on the size chart so I did, however, the XL felt too big and when I was wearing them at home squatting I got a gap between my leg and the knee sleeve at the bottom and they felt as if I was to work out in them they would keep sliding. So I ordered an L and they are tight but way better than the XL with no space at the bottom and felt secure. I'd say they are defiantly worth it, the stiffness makes squatting a lot easier to a point where it feels as if it’s cheating. A few of my friends said that these new types of stiff sleeves were gaming changing and now I believe them.
@@nicoclansolcamp1223 I would say an L is good my size is similar to yours my Knee joint is 14.5, my Quad is 19.3, and my calf is 15.1. Off of the chart, an XL made the most sense but I felt it was too big for me and the L fits perfectly.
Late to this video, but I’ve had these sleeves for just over 3 months now, and here are some thoughts: - They’re stiff. Very stiff. So stiff to the point that these dug into the back of my knee joint and there were scabs on it at one point. Make sure you give them time to break in. - Size up if you have big calves. I used small SBD sleeves before but for these I had to buy large and I still need to use a bin liner to make it easier to take off. The first time I wore them they were stuck on my calves for an hour when I tried to take them off. - You might encounter quality issues. My mates had no issues in theirs but my pair (Red Dawn rigor mortis) had lettering falling off on one side after 2 washes and a bit of threading has decided to come off on the other. The inner lining has also started to sag a bit like an old man’s ballsack. Overall, I’m happy with how these sleeves feel right now but I hope they improve on quality.
Praise Inzer 🙏 for putting SBD and the whole game on blast for pimping out subpar neoprene for the past decade. If Inzer didn't have such shit marketing they would be the only game in town with the new sleeve revolution.
I don’t think it was ever inzer’s intention to dominate the sleeve market, they are a very small business with very limited supply, they simply won’t be able to handle the demand if everyone at the gym wanted a pair. They also don’t focus on marketing because they only ever wanted to sell to competitors and serious lifters, I guess in a way you could say they are gatekeeping. But most important, most lifter won’t be able to handle the discomfort that comes with these sleeves anyways
@@Kenrickwong That's true. Inzer has always been a smaller operation compared to SBD's global efforts. However, the gateway idea I don't agree with. It's more like their business model has horrible scaling. They didn't need to go for IPF approval on their equipment, so that move doesn't coincide if they had no interest in catering to an international market.
I thought it was just me when it came to the SBD quality control thing. My original pair seemed like they were made of stronger material. It’s just a shame I can’t get into them anymore since gaining size. My newer ones are a size up, but feel abit flimsy in comparison
Looking for A7 rigor mortis. my measurements are: knee 15.4 inch, quad 20 inch, calf 16.9 inch. Should I take 2XL so all the measurements would fit in the 2XL category (knee low-end; calf and quad high-end), or take XL where only knee fits the category of XL? with SBD I've always worn size M with the same leg measurements.
There's something I've always wondered about this really stiff knee sleeves: can you squeeze them in your backpack, pretty much flattening them completely, and still get the same results, or are you supposed to use a specific bag to carry them around?
Can you just answer a dimple question, because of the stiffness and support of the A7's how much in poundage do you feel like you get out of them compared to your regular sleeve. I've been told the A7's are so stiff that it feels like a light self knee wrap and some people I have met who use them say they believe they can get upwards of 50lbs out of theirs. So i just want to know if you find these claims accurate to the sleeves. I wish you would have covered how much poundage you feel like you get out of them.
Hey bro, just saw your comment. I have a pair of A7 rigor mortis sleeves for three months now. In terms of stiffness these things are a different league compared to SBDs which I used before. I weigh 74kg and I had to limp around the gym like I have hemorrhoids with the A7s on. The only way for me to walk normally is to roll them down slightly. I even had slight difficulty hitting my usual depth (ass to grass) when I warmup with just the bar. As for how supportive they are, I once tested them by placing plates on them, easily held up the 5kg plate but can’t remember for the 10kg. I don’t think this can directly translate to how much more you can lift while wearing them but it should give you a rough idea.
@Fc-cb3tn thank you brother, I tried them prior to this and it felt like I could do about 30-50lbs more over my max I did in my torn pair of gangsta sleeves. Huge difference, but I settled for a 15lb sleeved PR @ 8.5 with 600lbs when I used them, my prior best was 585 @ 10 in my gangsta sleeves. Huge difference for me tbh
Watch free content from this channel, Steve Denovi (PRs performance), David Woolson, and Jonnie candito for starters. Can subscribe to powerlifting now as well. As far as learning more about powerlifitng. For the sake of getting into it? Start with a free program to get some experience, and then eventually look into getting a coach
My knee joint is 14.3 -14.4, calf is 13.8-13.9 , quad is 20-21 I measured 4 inches above the knee joint. What size should I get I was thinking of size M but I want these for a competition fit I wouldn't be training that much will these so could size S work for me? Anyone with similar measurements
Tried all 3 and have noticed very big differences in quality in the IR and Inzers when compared to others. A7 is king for now! Just ordered some Hansu Power though
@@TheSwolefessor Hey Marcellus! got the small but I can get them on and off easily do You think It would be better if I downsize just because of that? On first session the slightly moved down Thanks
there is a pretty significant difference between the small and XS. My concern would be the XS being too tight, but you can always order and see! @@shouman3277
Hey Marcellus! Just wanted to ask you if your inzers tear down from the middle on the inside and if thats normal? I got the S. Should I size up for replacement or stick to my size?
So if I’m able to wear XS stoics because they’re stretchy, I def need to size up with these because they aren’t as stretchy? Does that question make sense?
@@TheSwolefessor thank you, I’ve put off ordering them because nobody knows what I mean by that lmao I can get normal sleeves on that are super tight because they stretch enough to get them on.
How much do you think you get from the sleeves compared to not wearing them? I've used wraps in the past, but in no-wraps meets I haven't used sleeves and trying to determine if it's worth buying a pair. Thanks!
Hi bro, I need to clarify a doubt, I want to get a rigor mortis, but I don't know my exact size and I live in Brazil, I'm 52cm quad, 37 calf and 38 knee, which one would you recommend?
Thanks for the detailed review. I’m looking for new knee sleeves and this helped me with comparisons.
From the people I have talked to:
The A7 and Inzer sleeves are better for people with a narrow to medium stance
The Iron Rebels are better for people with wider squat stances
Why?
Just bought the A7s at HS Nats. They had a booth so I was able try them on before I purchased. M Stoic, Large SBDs, and XL A7s.
I wear a large SBD so this will be useful info for me. Thank you for commenting!
How do you like them compared to the stoics?
Name of the store?
Excellent review . Thanks for time and effort to put all this information together!!
You’re welcome!
Great video man I’ve been looking for a solid comparison on the new A7 and Inzer. I’ve had a pair of SBD since 2014 and I feel as if it’s finally time to get a new pair of knee sleeves so I just bought the A7 yesterday and I can’t wait 😭
are the knee sleeves ok? I'm thinking of buying them.
@@nicoclansolcamp1223 I got them and it’s an insane difference compared to non-stiff knee sleeves. The only thing with the A7 is the sizing, I followed the size chart and spoke to a representative online and they recommended that I ordered an XL based on the size chart so I did, however, the XL felt too big and when I was wearing them at home squatting I got a gap between my leg and the knee sleeve at the bottom and they felt as if I was to work out in them they would keep sliding. So I ordered an L and they are tight but way better than the XL with no space at the bottom and felt secure. I'd say they are defiantly worth it, the stiffness makes squatting a lot easier to a point where it feels as if it’s cheating. A few of my friends said that these new types of stiff sleeves were gaming changing and now I believe them.
@@Nosleepjustpre my circumferneces are : 14,3 in knee joint, 14,1 in calf and 18-19 inch quads should i go L size?
@@nicoclansolcamp1223 I would say an L is good my size is similar to yours my Knee joint is 14.5, my Quad is 19.3, and my calf is 15.1. Off of the chart, an XL made the most sense but I felt it was too big for me and the L fits perfectly.
@@Nosleepjustpre thanks so much for the info mate
Late to this video, but I’ve had these sleeves for just over 3 months now, and here are some thoughts:
- They’re stiff. Very stiff. So stiff to the point that these dug into the back of my knee joint and there were scabs on it at one point. Make sure you give them time to break in.
- Size up if you have big calves. I used small SBD sleeves before but for these I had to buy large and I still need to use a bin liner to make it easier to take off. The first time I wore them they were stuck on my calves for an hour when I tried to take them off.
- You might encounter quality issues. My mates had no issues in theirs but my pair (Red Dawn rigor mortis) had lettering falling off on one side after 2 washes and a bit of threading has decided to come off on the other. The inner lining has also started to sag a bit like an old man’s ballsack.
Overall, I’m happy with how these sleeves feel right now but I hope they improve on quality.
Hey have they broken yet? How often do you use the sleeves?
Praise Inzer 🙏 for putting SBD and the whole game on blast for pimping out subpar neoprene for the past decade. If Inzer didn't have such shit marketing they would be the only game in town with the new sleeve revolution.
I don’t think it was ever inzer’s intention to dominate the sleeve market, they are a very small business with very limited supply, they simply won’t be able to handle the demand if everyone at the gym wanted a pair. They also don’t focus on marketing because they only ever wanted to sell to competitors and serious lifters, I guess in a way you could say they are gatekeeping. But most important, most lifter won’t be able to handle the discomfort that comes with these sleeves anyways
@@Kenrickwong That's true. Inzer has always been a smaller operation compared to SBD's global efforts. However, the gateway idea I don't agree with. It's more like their business model has horrible scaling. They didn't need to go for IPF approval on their equipment, so that move doesn't coincide if they had no interest in catering to an international market.
you convinced me to get A7. TBH, any of the sleeves here would be upgrade to my years old sbd 😭
Just bought the inzers yesterday, I was looking for this video from you a little earlier yesterday haha. Thanks for the info
So I am a size L in stoic, should I get size 2xl or 3xl for these A7 rigor mortis?
Quad-20.5 inches
Knee joint- 17 inches
Calf- 16 inches
Any tips/advice on how to put the A7 rigormortis sleeves on as well as the easiest way to take them off ? 😭😭
I prefer the A7 to the inzers. I'm a small in A7 and xs in inzers, 22in squads, 13in calves.
What's your knee measurement? Do you get the inzers xs on and off without a problem?
@@shouman3277 my knees are smaller than my calves I get them off with slight resistance
I thought it was just me when it came to the SBD quality control thing. My original pair seemed like they were made of stronger material. It’s just a shame I can’t get into them anymore since gaining size. My newer ones are a size up, but feel abit flimsy in comparison
Same thing I experienced with SBD. Thankfully their other products are still good.
Was looking into an upgrade from my Stoics since I bought those too big, sounds like A7 is the way to go.
Looking for A7 rigor mortis. my measurements are: knee 15.4 inch, quad 20 inch, calf 16.9 inch. Should I take 2XL so all the measurements would fit in the 2XL category (knee low-end; calf and quad high-end), or take XL where only knee fits the category of XL? with SBD I've always worn size M with the same leg measurements.
hey, have you bought it a7 rm already, if so which size did you end up getting and how does it feel?
Nice info Cell
When did you buy your inzers and so far how they holding up ? Also have you heard of the Titan knee sleeves.
what are you knee measurements?
There's something I've always wondered about this really stiff knee sleeves: can you squeeze them in your backpack, pretty much flattening them completely, and still get the same results, or are you supposed to use a specific bag to carry them around?
They come in a little bag to carry them in! Doesn’t mean you can’t put them in your backpack, but I personally use the bag they provide
Awesome video thank you
Can you just answer a dimple question, because of the stiffness and support of the A7's how much in poundage do you feel like you get out of them compared to your regular sleeve. I've been told the A7's are so stiff that it feels like a light self knee wrap and some people I have met who use them say they believe they can get upwards of 50lbs out of theirs. So i just want to know if you find these claims accurate to the sleeves. I wish you would have covered how much poundage you feel like you get out of them.
Hey bro, just saw your comment. I have a pair of A7 rigor mortis sleeves for three months now. In terms of stiffness these things are a different league compared to SBDs which I used before. I weigh 74kg and I had to limp around the gym like I have hemorrhoids with the A7s on. The only way for me to walk normally is to roll them down slightly. I even had slight difficulty hitting my usual depth (ass to grass) when I warmup with just the bar.
As for how supportive they are, I once tested them by placing plates on them, easily held up the 5kg plate but can’t remember for the 10kg. I don’t think this can directly translate to how much more you can lift while wearing them but it should give you a rough idea.
@Fc-cb3tn thank you brother, I tried them prior to this and it felt like I could do about 30-50lbs more over my max I did in my torn pair of gangsta sleeves. Huge difference, but I settled for a 15lb sleeved PR @ 8.5 with 600lbs when I used them, my prior best was 585 @ 10 in my gangsta sleeves. Huge difference for me tbh
@@Fc-cb3tn do you have any issues with neoprene quality over time? Thank you!
Hello, what size would I recommend with the Titan TKS for someone who wears XL in A7? THANKS
Will you be getting the ghost ones?
Hey I’m a senior in high and I want to take power lifting seriously do you have any advice ?
Watch free content from this channel, Steve Denovi (PRs performance), David Woolson, and Jonnie candito for starters. Can subscribe to powerlifting now as well. As far as learning more about powerlifitng.
For the sake of getting into it? Start with a free program to get some experience, and then eventually look into getting a coach
Could you also go over the A7 regular knee sleeves vs the ones you have that are stiff
I don’t own a pair of the regular a7 sleeves
@@TheSwolefessor follow up. Why you decided to go with the stiff over the regular ones?
@@WhoIsWareJr I answered that in the video itself towards the end when talking about these new type of sleeves material wise
@@TheSwolefessor I’m a listen again, I was trying to listen while at work
My knee joint is 14.3 -14.4, calf is 13.8-13.9 , quad is 20-21 I measured 4 inches above the knee joint. What size should I get I was thinking of size M but I want these for a competition fit I wouldn't be training that much will these so could size S work for me? Anyone with similar measurements
If i use a small (snug fit) in rigor mortis should i size down one size in sbd? or two sizes for snug fit?
Go true to size on A7 they are tight asf
Tried all 3 and have noticed very big differences in quality in the IR and Inzers when compared to others. A7 is king for now!
Just ordered some Hansu Power though
How are the hansu’s compared to the Inzers en A7’s?
I use S on the A7 cone should i use the same size S or go size up?
Be true to the sizing chart
My Knee measurements are 13.5" and calfs are 14" would you recommend getting S(12.5"-13.5") or XS(11"-12.5") in INZER?
I’d go with the small
@@TheSwolefessor Hey Marcellus! got the small but I can get them on and off easily do You think It would be better if I downsize just because of that? On first session the slightly moved down
Thanks
there is a pretty significant difference between the small and XS. My concern would be the XS being too tight, but you can always order and see!
@@shouman3277
@@TheSwolefessor would you say they stretch out over time? Like the fit gets looser
Hey Marcellus! Just wanted to ask you if your inzers tear down from the middle on the inside and if thats normal? I got the S. Should I size up for replacement or stick to my size?
Do you plan to try the new Ghost Strong sleeves?
I don’t plan to right now since I’m happy with the A7s
What size of A7 rigor mortis would you recommend for Knee Medium(35cm), Calf Medium(37cm) and Quad XS(40.5cm) ?
Medium
So if I’m able to wear XS stoics because they’re stretchy, I def need to size up with these because they aren’t as stretchy? Does that question make sense?
Yes!! Order true to size with these sleeves, and only size down AFTER you’ve tried the true to size and feel the need to.
@@TheSwolefessor thank you, I’ve put off ordering them because nobody knows what I mean by that lmao I can get normal sleeves on that are super tight because they stretch enough to get them on.
Have the phantom rigor mortis. Nice sleeve, but they STINK like fish or dead animal. It's crazy.
lmaooooooooo
I’ve heard some people say the same! Thankfully mine don’t smell 💀
@@TheSwolefessor Oh you guys weren't kidding, I thought y'all were making a pun in reference to the name of the sleeve
I had the same probs, it smells bad and fishy.
Been wanting to buy the A7 but always seem sold out?
Yeah you have to definitively pay attention to when they drop
Have you tried the hourglass version of the A7 sleeves and would you say they’re better or worse than the cone version?
So the rigor mortis are the hourglass versions!
@@TheSwolefessor oh gotcha, thanks
I bought a pair of iron rebel sleeves followed the size chart bought a L they did not go past my calfs 😂 returned for an xl. Wear a size m in stoic
How are they? To to provide bounce to them?
How much do you think you get from the sleeves compared to not wearing them? I've used wraps in the past, but in no-wraps meets I haven't used sleeves and trying to determine if it's worth buying a pair. Thanks!
Yeah it’s worth it. I wear fairly loose sleeves, but squatting feels more comfortable in them, especially when doing high reps
It’s definitely worth it. I don’t know a single person who doesn’t get something out of using them
Hi bro, I need to clarify a doubt, I want to get a rigor mortis, but I don't know my exact size and I live in Brazil, I'm 52cm quad, 37 calf and 38 knee, which one would you recommend?
I'm only going to use it for competitions, so it should be smaller
For me the a7 sucks, cause it’s super tight on my quads and super big on my calfes
Lol sucks to have your knees
I see what you mean the inzers hug my calves and I have big calves so they’d it like right above the knee. I’m try these a7
I have big calves too. They used to be really painful for my calves but over time they broke in and I can wear them for a whole squat workout now
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