Ever since I recently started a channel TH-cam has been recommending smaller channels, which is way cooler than only the huge ones. Anyway, I’m here to try and step up my leather game. Thanks.
I made another video showing different braids. In that video I spent more time explaining a good way to start a braid like this. th-cam.com/video/cnluTjM1Wjk/w-d-xo.html
The 2 knots are called Spanish Ring Knots. Those knots are part of the Gaucho knot family. Braiders and plaiters use the different braids in the work that’s longer than 1 foot. Check out Mike Hickey Tom Hall braiding here on TH-cam. I’ve studied under him for about 10 yrs and I’ve been a braider/knot Tyler for about 25yrs.
I'm not familiar with this type of work but after watching a similar vid (another channel) then yours I have a suggestion. Perhaps using a contrasting shade of leather it would be easier to see exactly what your doing.
What would you recommend for finishing the end of the braid on a walking staff without using and additional Turks head knot. How would you finish the weave to terminate cleanly?
It is possible to weave the strands back in at the end by bringing each strand under the one next to it and then following a strand in the braid. I have heard this called back braiding. I prefer using a Turks head that has been lengthened by wrapping more times to start if I don't want to add a knot covered ring or ferrule. Like I demonstrate in this video. th-cam.com/video/QQ2s1RQLkPk/w-d-xo.html
So we ended up with a bull whip handle on an axe.. not particularly your standard issue axe handle wrapping but is pleasing to the eye if nothing else. Although the turks head knots serve a convenient purpose for the project's asthmatics, I'm not a fan of it on an axe handle. Until the leather wears and softens up quite a bit, it's likely to be sliding out of its owners hands frequently.
I'm sure the lighting you have for your work is sufficient, but more is better and close up on that neck would be appreciated. Looks like you are doing great work 👍
Honored to have you drop by, Mr Swanson! 😂 I've done other braiding videos where I tried to make things easier to see. Try this one: I th-cam.com/video/cnluTjM1Wjk/w-d-xo.html
An eight strand braid does not work well without a core of some sort inside it. For a purse strap I would use a rope as a core. Another option would be using a four strand braid which does not need a core.
Quick question after you tie the leather TOGETHER BUT BEFORE YOU START BRAIDING I AM MISSING WHAT IS DONE. AFTER YOU TIE IT OFF WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP.IF SOMEONE CAN HELP ME THAT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
For an eight strand braid like that I just separate four strands on the left side of the handle and four on the right. As I am separating the strands I usually cross the two strands on the front over each other so they don't leave a gap. Strands should lay out like this ///X\\\ . Then I start braiding.
Not really, I just do a little bit of this on the side and still have a full time job. I currently have all the work I can manage from local sources so I am not taking online commissions.
I cannot remember exactly because it has been a while since I filmed this. Usually it is because I am paying attention to what I am working on and forget about where the camera is and those parts are out of frame.
Thanks, braiding is like many things, practice is important. You can learn about it from books and videos, but you can only learn how to braid by actually trying to braid.
Quick 1st question: how do you figure the length of the strips: did you use an equation that included the diameter of the handle at the wrapped angle, the width of the strips, and the length of the area covered? Or, should we simply wrap a similar width around at a similar angle to arrive at a length? A 2nd question: since you are wrapping it onto "a slick plastic handle", would sanding it, to roughen it up, be of benefit, both for the hold of the leather, and the glue? Curious of both, for future reference.... THANKS for your answers... Your project and video are both very inspiring! THANKS for the great tutorial, you did great, why are people SO NEGATIVE??? I encourage you to Ig Nore those who are habitual complainers... It is their pathetic hobby to foist negativity on anyone and everyone possible. Instead of that, you naysayers, why don't we all treat each other kindly, compassionately, and respectfully, as if we are actually trying to become BETTER PEOPLE. (BTW, I like the sound of your sneakers in the drier - very comforting, a familiar homey sound...! Come on, people! Are our tender ears really offended by the sounds of such natural daily tasks... good grief...)
When I am setting up a braid there is a bit of guess work. I usually find that I need strands that are 1.5 times longer than the braid I want to make. For example 12 inches of braiding would need about 18 inch strands. I would cut strands longer than that just to be sure. This is only a general rule based on having enough strands to cover the entire circumference. I could have covered this handle with only four half inch strands and they would need to be at least twice as long because the angles change and each strand would wrap around the core more times. (Instead of shoes in a dryer I think the noise is from the ice maker in my refrigerator.)
Roughing a surface may help glue adhere, but not always with some plastics. In my experience the glues I use will not stick well to polyethylene or vinyl even if they are rough. The braiding is held on more by friction where I have both ends bound on with waxed thread. Wraps are usually glued if braiding or knots are tight enough they should stay in place without glue.
I have done a handle similar to this with a 16 strand braid. Not really much harder to do. Just depends on how you want it to look. Smaller strands are not as durable.
Nice video but you are working dark leather on a dark shaft with a white cutting board and white hands, the camera will automatically close down because of the glare coming back at it. That in turn means your dark subject materials are rendered even darker. Despite what people have said about the lighting, if you lit the table even brighter thee effect would just get worse as the camera would shut down even more. 'No criticism of your very informative video.
If I remember I did not have any good footage of it. Either I was out of frame or my hands were in the way too much to tell what was going on. I didn't think it was important. On an 8 strand braid I just pull 4 strands to either side and start braiding.
I did make a video about different patterns of braiding using both brown and black lace. I filmed it with a better camera so it might be helpful. th-cam.com/video/cnluTjM1Wjk/w-d-xo.html
Great. Skipped the only part I wanted
. To see him start it
Ever since I recently started a channel TH-cam has been recommending smaller channels, which is way cooler than only the huge ones. Anyway, I’m here to try and step up my leather game. Thanks.
Thanks for watching.
I guess starting it is a huge how to secret??
Please do a dedicated video on how you braid. I love the look and would love to do this on my axe.
I think I might need to make one where I go into more detail about braiding. There has been more interest in this video than I expected.
@@bransonsgeneralstore You literally skipped over the hardest part at 4:10. Really interested in how to do this start to finish.
I made another video showing different braids. In that video I spent more time explaining a good way to start a braid like this. th-cam.com/video/cnluTjM1Wjk/w-d-xo.html
The 2 knots are called Spanish Ring Knots. Those knots are part of the Gaucho knot family.
Braiders and plaiters use the different braids in the work that’s longer than 1 foot.
Check out Mike Hickey Tom Hall braiding here on TH-cam. I’ve studied under him for about 10 yrs and I’ve been a braider/knot Tyler for about 25yrs.
Bada Boom that thing looks Gorgeous!
Thank you! Thanks for watching!
Cool video.. I think your Chuck Taylors All Stars would dry faster and quieter if you put a towel in the dryer with them
I'm not familiar with this type of work but after watching a similar vid (another channel) then yours I have a suggestion. Perhaps using a contrasting shade of leather it would be easier to see exactly what your doing.
What would you recommend for finishing the end of the braid on a walking staff without using and additional Turks head knot. How would you finish the weave to terminate cleanly?
It is possible to weave the strands back in at the end by bringing each strand under the one next to it and then following a strand in the braid. I have heard this called back braiding. I prefer using a Turks head that has been lengthened by wrapping more times to start if I don't want to add a knot covered ring or ferrule. Like I demonstrate in this video. th-cam.com/video/QQ2s1RQLkPk/w-d-xo.html
You cut out the beginning of the braid.. Like the most important part
Exactly. If you're gonna skip the important part how to start what is the point?
I can't help but say waxed bow string thread would work so much better and be invisible?
Sweet!
Thanks!
What is the threading needle your using?
So we ended up with a bull whip handle on an axe.. not particularly your standard issue axe handle wrapping but is pleasing to the eye if nothing else. Although the turks head knots serve a convenient purpose for the project's asthmatics, I'm not a fan of it on an axe handle. Until the leather wears and softens up quite a bit, it's likely to be sliding out of its owners hands frequently.
That was great I always wanted to know how to do that. That’s definitely a 2 handed gig 🤣🤣
Unfortunately, yeah. Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm sure the lighting you have for your work is sufficient, but more is better and close up on that neck would be appreciated. Looks like you are doing great work 👍
Honored to have you drop by, Mr Swanson! 😂 I've done other braiding videos where I tried to make things easier to see. Try this one: I th-cam.com/video/cnluTjM1Wjk/w-d-xo.html
If you were to do that braid and the remove what you braided it around, would it still have firm integrity to use as a purse handle? Thank you.
An eight strand braid does not work well without a core of some sort inside it. For a purse strap I would use a rope as a core. Another option would be using a four strand braid which does not need a core.
Quick question after you tie the leather TOGETHER BUT BEFORE YOU START BRAIDING I AM MISSING WHAT IS DONE. AFTER YOU TIE IT OFF WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP.IF SOMEONE CAN HELP ME THAT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
For an eight strand braid like that I just separate four strands on the left side of the handle and four on the right. As I am separating the strands I usually cross the two strands on the front over each other so they don't leave a gap. Strands should lay out like this ///X\\\ . Then I start braiding.
I showed a different way to start an 8 strand braid in this video th-cam.com/video/cnluTjM1Wjk/w-d-xo.html
Who would I take an axe to for this service and how much would it run
I really don't know who could do it local to you. I just made the video for people who want to try it themselves.
Do you offer handle wrapping as a service?
Not really, I just do a little bit of this on the side and still have a full time job. I currently have all the work I can manage from local sources so I am not taking online commissions.
Thankyou so much
Thanks for watching!
Why cut out some of the hardest parts?
I cannot remember exactly because it has been a while since I filmed this. Usually it is because I am paying attention to what I am working on and forget about where the camera is and those parts are out of frame.
you make it look easy, but im going to practice
Thanks, braiding is like many things, practice is important. You can learn about it from books and videos, but you can only learn how to braid by actually trying to braid.
Quick 1st question: how do you figure the length of the strips: did you use an equation that included the diameter of the handle at the wrapped angle, the width of the strips, and the length of the area covered? Or, should we simply wrap a similar width around at a similar angle to arrive at a length? A 2nd question: since you are wrapping it onto "a slick plastic handle", would sanding it, to roughen it up, be of benefit, both for the hold of the leather, and the glue? Curious of both, for future reference.... THANKS for your answers... Your project and video are both very inspiring! THANKS for the great tutorial, you did great, why are people SO NEGATIVE??? I encourage you to Ig Nore those who are habitual complainers... It is their pathetic hobby to foist negativity on anyone and everyone possible. Instead of that, you naysayers, why don't we all treat each other kindly, compassionately, and respectfully, as if we are actually trying to become BETTER PEOPLE. (BTW, I like the sound of your sneakers in the drier - very comforting, a familiar homey sound...! Come on, people! Are our tender ears really offended by the sounds of such natural daily tasks... good grief...)
When I am setting up a braid there is a bit of guess work. I usually find that I need strands that are 1.5 times longer than the braid I want to make. For example 12 inches of braiding would need about 18 inch strands. I would cut strands longer than that just to be sure. This is only a general rule based on having enough strands to cover the entire circumference. I could have covered this handle with only four half inch strands and they would need to be at least twice as long because the angles change and each strand would wrap around the core more times. (Instead of shoes in a dryer I think the noise is from the ice maker in my refrigerator.)
Roughing a surface may help glue adhere, but not always with some plastics. In my experience the glues I use will not stick well to polyethylene or vinyl even if they are rough. The braiding is held on more by friction where I have both ends bound on with waxed thread. Wraps are usually glued if braiding or knots are tight enough they should stay in place without glue.
I wonder how it would look if you split each piece in half again or each half piece to thirds. A little more work but I think it would look great.
I have done a handle similar to this with a 16 strand braid. Not really much harder to do. Just depends on how you want it to look. Smaller strands are not as durable.
@@bransonsgeneralstore any pictures?
Handle on a boarding ax photos.app.goo.gl/RCRY9ZJrwj7pABBu8
@@bransonsgeneralstore to me that looks better. I make whips so the thinner strands look better.
Nice video but you are working dark leather on a dark shaft with a white cutting board and white hands, the camera will automatically close down because of the glare coming back at it. That in turn means your dark subject materials are rendered even darker. Despite what people have said about the lighting, if you lit the table even brighter thee effect would just get worse as the camera would shut down even more. 'No criticism of your very informative video.
I had a very cheap camera when I filmed that video. Since then I have upgraded to a better one and don't have as much problem with lighting.
why did you skip over the start of it? that is the most important.
If I remember I did not have any good footage of it. Either I was out of frame or my hands were in the way too much to tell what was going on. I didn't think it was important. On an 8 strand braid I just pull 4 strands to either side and start braiding.
I was hoping each strip was a different color so you can see the the way you do it. Seems like a blur of black to me.
I did make a video about different patterns of braiding using both brown and black lace. I filmed it with a better camera so it might be helpful. th-cam.com/video/cnluTjM1Wjk/w-d-xo.html
Leather grip
You need more light body.
Your lighting needs to be upped a couple notches....the video is too dim to see details clearly
Too dark to be able to see what's going on here.
With all do respect Please do something about the sound it's terrible...
I recently did a new video on this. Https://th-cam.com/video/cnluTjM1Wjk/w-d-xo.html
Very hard to see, black leather and poor lighting...