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You CAN equip yourself for a successful hunt on a small budget. Here I share with you how I did it when I was young and had no money. A P17 Enfield and a Krico are examples on the table today of how I did it. Converted military rifles, semi-customs, and fair condition hunting rifles that don't look the best are all great options. After all, the game don't care what your rifle looks like...it just has to work!
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That .358 Norma was an excellent find! Like a Whelen on steroids!
Shortly after buying my first rifle in .270 Win., I wanted something with more oomph for the large moose we see around north central BC. I bought a new Krico in .300 Win. Mag. The only thing I had done was to have a recoil pad installed, not only for the stout recoil but also I wanted a slightly longer length of pull.
What a tack driver! I worked up a load using IMR 4831 and Hornady 180 gr. InterLock flat base bullets. I still have a target with a one-half inch group at 200 yards. (It was a good day!) The stock is a bit different from the one in this video . The bolt action is as smooth as glass and in 35 years of use, it has never had a single issue. Chambering and ejection is flawless. It has taken it's share of game both in the bush and up in the mountains. I have yet to go to southern Africa but if I do, this rifle goes with me. If it can drop a mature bull moose, it can drop a one ton Eland.
I have a sporterized Swedish Mauser in 6.5x55. If I see a Krico in that chambering, I'll buy it in a heartbeat.
BSA and Parker Hale rifles are really cheap in the UK. Because of our license system second hand rifles are really cheap. Love your videos.
Besides your countries wretched laws the barriers to entry do help keep prices low. In the us that's not the case
I have noticed really low prices on used guns in the UK. Shotguns for less than half what we pay in the USA. I always wondered why that was the case. I know that, in general, prices on just about everything in the UK are higher than the US.
BSA and Parker Hale rifles used to be very common and popular and were relative bargains in the USA.
Same thing goes in Sweden. I got a hunting converted CG63 for 20$. It has no collectors value and people don't keep them for long since most hunters can only own 6 firearms.
Sadly it means alot of older firearms are scrapped each year.
Same here in Australia. Just got a PH in .243 for $200. Nothing wrong with it.
How good are BSA rifles in 270? I have seen a few here in South Africa second hand but I'm just not familiar with them. What action do they use?
A old hand me down is the best rifle you get the stories that come along with it most of the time and thats priceless.
just found a 1917 Eddystone for $250, nicely done sporter in 30-06. One piece Leupold scope base. 26" barrel.
Best shooting 30-06 in my opinion.
Christ Bless!
I really love my Czech VZ 24 which was converted to 35 Whelen. I would have been even more satisfied had it been a 358 Norma Mag! But these rifles are so smooth and inherently accurate! You cannot go wrong with one. Mike, thank you for a wonderful video!
Sleepers aren't just cars lol... I love a rough looking rifle that shoots like new. There's something special about an old tool that just won't stop working... they deserve a good home and given a job to do now and then.
My first budget hunting rifle was a Savage 110 in 30-06. Still have it.
I have a Savage 11 in .308, probably the most accurate rifle I own. Way more accurate than I am. I bought it used, unfired, for about $300. slapped a cheap old tasco on it.
Sporterized military rifles are wonderful. Impossible to beat for accuracy and dependability. I would rather have a few of them than dozens of new rifles. You can't go wrong and the price is almost always great. Go for it.
Most of them a .223 rat guns though.
@@deadpresident78 Not a lot of military rifles started out as .223--that is, not (officially) chambered for 5.56mm--and especially manual-action. I would totally agree manufacturers chinse on the chambering of their "sporting" arms that way, though. You get down to Steyr Scouts, Mossberg MVPs, and Ruger Americans. And nowadays, those are hard to come by.
@@deadpresident78 That is not true. Many were 30-06 Springfield 1903 or Mauser. They have been re-chambered to 243 Win or 270 with new barrels and stocks. I have several and they are killer accurate and beautiful.
I agree totaly!
@@deadpresident78 humm you ever heard of the M-1 garand or the mosin nagant or maybe the M-1 carbine
Long live the Swede my favorite whitetail round! Hope your well Brother.
Mine too!
The Danish Special Forces "Sirius Patrul" in Greenland are use Enfiled in .30-06 as their primary rifle.
There was a time when a Krico was a premium European hunting rifle. Some of these old European and English rifles
are good buying.
The wood on these older guns is often aged properly and settled.
Krico (which possibly relied a bit too heavily on the pure hunting market) appears to have been a casualty of Chernobyl, along with commercial rifle production by Kongsberg. Hundreds of hunting shops apparently closed down because of the ensuing hunting bans. We are fortunate to have lost so few European shooting brands to that environmental disaster.
@@michaelguerin56 Thank you for that information, I remember the Chernobyl event but I was not aware of the Hunting bans due to contamination.
That explains quite a lot.
Krico rifles had a reputation for being accurate ,light and very well made , I wanted one rather badly at the time.
There actions were used by other companies as well including Anschutz for their centerfires.
I love the message of your video; that a 'used' gun can be imbued with as vital a functionality, as attractive a personality, and as rich a provenance (even if unknown) as one just from the factory. When a new owner recognizes that a "second hand" gun bequeathes a commitment to curation, it feels much more like the previous owner meant me to have it - from his hand to mine.
Thanks for all your great work, Mike.
I like your comment more than the actual video..
I have two used hunting rifles that I love, a Mannlicher Schoenauer in 30-06 that I inherited, and a Husqvarna in 30-06 that I bought. I'm considering on getting them restored so that way I can get to experience them from factory new condition and put my own wear and tear on them. Should I do this or just keep them as is and use them as is?
@@richardsabo7917 keep them as is freshen them up may be but stay original, and get them out to the range from time to time.
@@mikebeddingfield2144 how would you say I should freshen them up
A good cleaning refinish the stock and a rebluing wood be my approach if I were doing it . That's what I did to my dad's old rifle he gave me
Yup. My Kimber of America 270 built on a VZ 24 Mauser action cost me 350 bucks. She shoots less than half inch. I also came across a barely used Remington 700bdl in 30-06 made in 1973 with a period correct Redfield widefield 3-9x40 scope that shoots excellent for 450. The deals are out there folks.
A really good video 😊 , rifles like these are wonderful for hunting and your doing it without spending a lot of money ! PS. Seems like many people today are being taught that they need a sub M.O.A. rifle , fact is if you hunt with the rifle And shoot within a reasonable distance then you don’t need a rifle like that at all , Many budget friendly rifles shoot very well even if you choose to shoot targets at reasonable distances ! JUST HAVE FUN 👍
I also have a model 1917 rifle made by Winchester. I found it in my favorite gun shop with a right hand action (obviously) but a stock with a left handed Monte Carlo cheek piece. I bought the rifle, chambered in 25-06 with a respectable scope and new military style leather sling for the princely sum of $250.
Much to my delight, the butter smooth action, free floated barrel and wonderful trigger was also marked P.O.Ackley on the barrel.
My first handloads with 117grn Hornady soft points and H4350 powder yielded a .75" group at 100 yards.
Semi-custom rifles can be a treasure!
I have a Steyr M95 in 30-40, no idea who or when the conversion was done, but it is a nice shooting rifle.
The older rifles are often very well made and I really like them. I recently bought a Brno CZ ZH304 combination gun. It's chambered for 7x57R and 12 gauge 2 3/4 and has some very distinct features. It has the rifle barrel above the shotgun barrel, automatic safety and a single set trigger. When the set trigger is engaged the shotgun trigger is disabled to avoid double firing. The rear (shotgun trigger) can be used to fire both barrels after another, when you need a fast followup shot. When you let the barrel cool down after every shot, you can reach 30-40 mm groups with Sellier & Bellot 173 grain SPCE ammunition. Currency converted I paid 340 $ for this gun. I must say that there are better looking combination guns, but the mechanics are awesome.
Mike, I seen and bought a number of old Enfields, both UK/303Br and US/30-06 types. So undervalued but they've been modified. I usually try to stay with good ol' 30-06 and 303 British for obvious reasons. There's nothing as cool as seeing a overlooked classic on the shelf for peanuts. Those rifles are still out there, it's another type of "hunting!"
Take care and be well!
Why back in the 1960's, I sometimes was on hand to watch my Uncle as he converted an old .303 British into a usable Deer rifle. Was lots of work but she shoots great and the family still owns it! For over 50 years now.
A British 303 is a useable deer rifle as it came from the factory.
Check out Tom River Simple Living channel, hes been working on a sporterizing a 1903 for a hunting rifle project.
So true, that one doesn’t have to spend a fortune to get an excellent hunting rifle! One of my best hunting rifles is a Remington Sportsman 78 in 30-06 with a used, low power Leupold scope. Less than $500 for everything! My most recent purchase was a FN Mauser 98 Deluxe also 30-06, with a Lyman peep sight. Nice walnut and hand checkering. Less than $700. What’s not love about that. Excellent rifle & better than anything new off the rack. Old rifles are the best! They have history and a soul. Love your videos! 🙂
The Sportsman 78 is better than a Remington Model 700 Sendero?
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Most people don’t realize all you need is a low power scope for majority of deer hunting scenarios, or open sights if you know your gun. Yeah a 9 power scope is nice but under 150 yards a low power scope is plenty good.
@@rex8958 I hunt for meat, so, all my shots are head shot. I need high magnification for that reason. I also use small calibers.....spanning from 6mm to 5.56mm. Lately I have used 17 HMR to take feral hogs. One shot in the head and none was able to walk away. My shots were all 50 to 100 yards max.
Its been a long time since I made a heart lung shot. Those shots always messed up the ribs, which was the best part of a pig for me.
I still use my Parker Hale Mauser action in 308, have had it for over 20 years and still going strong , Fantastic rifle and didn't cost a great deal of money as I picked it up secondhand for very little.
Those Parker Hale rifles are as good as it gets in the real world. You bought well.
It's very nice to see you enjoying good health and shooting at the range my friend. Excellent rifles and I truly love your channel. God bless.
Love that you can still appreciate these and thanks for the video.
Well thought out and thoroughly appreciated video
Thx, always a pleasure and an inspiration!
Very nice find, wow! Great video
Enjoyed the change in scenery. Nicely done.
Over here in Europe, if you wanted a tough, servicable, accurate rifle, you would buy a CZ. You might even buy one used.
The other gun that makes a good beater for the bush / woods is the Zastava nothing fancy but does the job.
Excellent video. I like your way of thinking.
I know a young guy (to me, 21 is young) who got a mosin nagant and put it in a McMillan stock and built a very nice system around it. And you can still find that ammo because so many guys have bought mil-surp that the demand for that round is still high enough to be worth it. Then, again, ammo companies are still making .308 Marlin Express for the 3 guys in the modern age who shoot that round and love lever action.
And you can also get good luck with budget rifles today. Granted, once in a while, there may be a dud but that is what warranty is for. But even the cheapest rifles are capable of 1 MOA at 100 yards. And the largest percentage of hunting is less than 100 yards. And most guys zero for 50-250 for a 3 inch rise in the point blank range.
And grandpa might have one of these old ones that just needs a touch up and a new generation to love and appreciate the quality of it. Daniel Defense makes great rifles for specific purposes but you can do what you need to do with an old hunting rifle.
The timing of this video is excellent. Hunting season starting here in Maine and the NE soon. Thank you 😀
Thanks for sharing your videos and keep them coming please.
Excellent rifles!!! Great video! Blessings!
This is my favorite firearms TH-camr very informativerhank you
Thanks ounce again. Excellent representation of quality purchases. One would do well to approach rifle purchasing in this manner. Thanks again and Merry Christmas. Excellent and sensible content.😊
Love your channel… have learned so much about worldwide development of the fine bolt action rifles, but found this video especially relevant to the qualities and collectibility of lesser know rifles! Thank you for your sharing your insight, knowledge and expertise!!
Another great video.🇬🇧
A most wonderful video as always! Wish I had your luck in finding an M12917 in 358 Norma, though! I know of some in and around Houston, and the shops know their value and how interesting that would be to enthusiasts! Best wishes, always!
Thanks for sharing. Those are some beautiful surplus rifles. I have a sporterized Lee-Enfield No 4 Mk1 with a cut down stock and another No 4 Mk1 in original military configuration. Both shoot well. Love the 6.5x55 Swede. Mine is in original military configuration. It's action cycles beautifully.
I use a Krico 600 chambered in .223 build in 1977 handed down from my father. 3 shots on a €2 coin on 100 meters, with a scope. Wouldn‘t Trade it for any other new .223. I can confirm everything said about the rifle in this video.
Great video on a really important subject! And you went the logical route of great quality solid real steel and wood rifle instead of going the route of the cheap plastic stamp metal low quality offering today like the mosberg and savages offerings!! Good on you to show us all that you can get high quality rifle at a budget price!!
Got my start with cut down military rifles, KRAG, LEE ENFIELD, 1917 US ENFIELDS along with even full military rifles and never felt I was at a disadvantage back in the 1960s. Had my 1917 redone to .375 H&H. Before placed in a bishop stock I had it jury rigged in the original cut down military stock steel butt and short length. I was even then 6'5" and at 100 yards with open William's sights it would do a half dollar size 3 shot group at 100 yards , using 300 grain Winchester factory. Bet that .358 Norma is a nice weapon and would be a good one for all larger North American game. That 6.5x55 is an outstanding rifle and cartridge. Enjoyed this presentation.
These P 17’s are very good quality.
At one they were extremely popular conversions. A natural for rechambering to .308 Norma or .300 Win. Mag.
I did not have any money when l was a kid either lol 😂
I always wanted a .308 Norma but still couldn’t even afford a P17 conversion.
I hunted with a No.4 Mk. 1 Lee Enfield.
$35.00 at Simpson Sears.
I learned how to use those excellent peep sights and believe me it did the job. I wish l still had it!
Thanks for this great vid.🇨🇦🤠
That first rifle is nice looking and looks fun to shoot
Ah, there's that 358 Norma you spoke of ! And It's a great shooter, good to see it, and a bargain buy as well. Thanks for the video
I love finding these converted gems, they are most always great rifles. Thanks for another great video.
Hi Randy - So many are remarkable I'm amazed at the dedication of their builders. Thanks for the kind words - they help me a lot.
I am a big fan of those sporterized mauser as well. Always buy when they are priced right. Some come with stocks made in 60’s, even not original, but still a gorgeous piece of history as well.
Best new rifles on the market for the money are Weatherby Vanguards in my opinion. Can find a basic one for under $500. Build quality better than most other rifles in the sub 1000 range. I’ve owned several.
I have a 1939 Winchester 94. 30-30! Grandfather bought it new in K.C. ,Missouri. It's in great condition with original sights still there. Smooth as butter.
Hi Tim, That's a great vintage - and for sure - they run like glass. Glad it stayed in the family!
Excellent video. These sporterized rifles can be incredible bargains like the two you've found.
I love this video. Great practical advice that rings true based on owning many of these types of rifles over the years. I have lovely sako 85 that I spent over $2k in that shoots amazingly well but not really much better than an old mauser 98 in 6.5x55SE. I paid 300 for the latter and refinished it as a winter project a few years back. It is still nothing special to look at and no where near as nice as the sako but it shoots incredibly well. The bonus is that I don't have to worry about it getting scratched when I am out in woods. Anyway, great informative video full of practical advice. Thanks for producing it!
Thank you!
I really like your no nonsense and calm approach to firearms and shooting. These are wise words and even here in the UK, there is the endless scrabble to buy new rifles and kit at great cost. In these times of raised sustainability and recycling, it makes so much sense to search for a bargain second/third hand gun. I have the most wonderful condition CZ 550 in .243 Win. which was made in 1997 and never fired! I was lucky to spot it on line and managed to buy it. That said, due to the 'as new' condition, that particular was still reasonably expensive, but there are so many very similar with incredibly low round counts still out there that are £400, sometimes less! It all comes down to fashion rather than 'common sense tools' and if you go beyond the 'badge engineering' and designer label approach of the seductive advertising from the manufacturers, you will find a wonderful bargain just waiting to be owned. Happy Hunting!
That Krico went bust is one of the greatest shame in the industry to remember today. If you find a Krico ,grab it .
Yes - I agree - total gems - and totally undervalued.
This gentleman has it right.
Well done, in giving these 'old sporters' a word of two, not to mention some shooting. We sure can see the difference in recoil, can't we?
" Budget Hunting Rifles THAT WORK" is a topic that can have many videos from you and your channel Mike,.. and why not!
thanks
Loved this video
Glad it was okay
My father and I talked about building a Mauser with a Douglas barrel in a Bishop stock after having a gunsmith square up and blueprint it !! He was an engineer and loved the idea of an air gauged barrel on his rifle ! Great videos. I can really identify with being pragmatic when it comes to sporterized rifles. People have been adopting former military rifles and hand guns for centuries to feed their families and defend them. It looks like it's no different today.. I would love to find an old guild gun some day ! All the best !
Cool vid! A lot of cool sporterized Lee-Endields came across the border and show up on local auctions. Many of them were apprentice gunsmith projects and some of those fellas really knew their art.
Thanks WGS - some are amazing - some ...not-so-much....: ) Most go boom and at 50 yards or maybe 100 or even further...they work. All the best to you.
You reminded me of my Winchester 670 in 30-06 hunting rifle that was so accurate. I don't hunt anymore but I am putting it aside for my grandson.
Hi Toti - I always liked the 670 - something about that model really attracts. The hunting waits for you...but no matter what you've got a very lucky grandson.
All major manufacturers have their entry line for a reasonable price. These are bargains also. I just picked up a mint 30-06 Whitworh not a mark on it.Probably sat in a closet for 45 years. Beautiful. $600.00 . I alway look in the used section on any gun rack.
That first rifle looks absolutely amazing, I wouldn't be ashamed to use it.
Great video, they are both very nice rifles, for over 20 years I have used, lee Enfield 303 sporters, I have 4 Enfields that were converted to 303.25 and a 106 year old Carl Gustav 6.5*55 sporter, we don’t have the game that you guys have, here in Australia but pigs deer goats and scrub bulls never had one get up and complain that it was shot with a cheap military sporter
Thanks for the interesting video that’s how I feel till you don’t have to spend a fortune on a hunting rifle you can get something perfectly functional it shoots great for far less money and today the price of scopes has gone up so high compared to what they used to be it’s very easy to spend more on a scope than you do on your rifle it doesn’t take that much money to get started.
My centurion 123 30.06 has a 3x9x40 nikon scope and its hitting 3 inches high at 100 yards for a 225 yards zero. Its perfect for hunting now using hornady 180 grain gmx bullets. I cant wait for the hunting seasons to kick in.
Last year I picked up a (sporterized) 30-40 Krag rifle (It was def done by someone knew what they were doing). If I get a chance I would love to hunt with it!
One the my best riflesi ever had was a Winchester p17 that someone obviously paid a gunsmith to sporterize very much like yours. It was in a Boyd's hardwood stock with ebony tip. Had been beautifully reblued. Had a nice set of Redfield target peep sights installed and held a whopping 6+1 of 30-06. I think I paid $400 for it. Traded it for a Smith and Wesson 19-5
Yup. Another great video. A lot to be said for used rifles. They often shoot surprisingly well, even with all the dings, and gouges in the wood. One of my favorites is a rather ugly SMLE 1943 that can still put 3 rounds through the eye of a pumpkin at 100 yds. In quick succession with an extremely smooth bolt. That was a 90 dollar rifle for me, and it shoots just as good with irons, as some of my higher end stuff does scoped.
I have a BSA P17 in 3006. This thing shoots really, really good. The stock on yours is way nicer that my gussied up military stock. My problem is using the scope. I use a stock bar to raise the cheek weld.
Since following your channel couple years ago, I have purchased a few older rifles from learning about them on your reviews. My two favorites are my savage model 1920's, one in 300 and the other in 250-3000, they just shoot awsome.. Thanks USOG
me too. very same rifles. lightweight and beautiful with their schnable foreend. I see them selling way more than I paid 2 years ago. Then I got a BSA Monarch, as seen on this channel. Its so shiny everyone thinks its refinished. Got a huge buck with it last year and we will never part.
@@despereaux9452 Yes prices are up on all rifles this past year, way to go Covid.. Great for sellers but not for us buyer's.. Ha ha ha
My 300 Sav is an early model 1920, found it at wanstalls few years ago at an excellent price. The 250-3000 is in the change over year with heavier barrel & stock with lyman 54 sight factory installed, I purchased at auction this year pricey but had to have it.
Me Happy the Wife??? Not so much but She will be when I put some fresh deer on the table or a least a grouse...Lol
I'm trying to find the same rifles but switched around to complete my collection.
I've worked up a really nice hunting load for the 300sav, which I hope to deer hunt with this season. The 250-3000 still trying to figure out a good Deer load for.. The Stock Remington core-loct 100 gr shoot okay but want to hand load only and Information seems to be all over the place on 25 calibur..
I'm having a blast trying to figure out. That BSA is on my list and that seems to keep growing as the episodes go along...love the channel 😊
I have used quite a few military rifles to hunt deer. Some I did, some I bought converted. Some nice, some with the bare minimum done to them. I bought an Arisaka at a flea market that had been recut to .300 Savage. I mounted a scope. Someone already chopped the stock down. At 100 yards I got 3 shot clover leaf groups with factory Remington ammunition. I eventually sold it because I just want to try new things. My main go to deer rifles I will always keep are: 6.5x55 on an Arisaka action, 7x57 on an Arisaka action, 7.62x39 on an Arisaka action and a 30-30 99' Savage. I have used and sold quite a few over the years. I think I did not like Mauser style actions because of the weight, but they sound like a tuned machine when you close the bolt!
I prefer a Mauser action or a close derivative. Especially the CZ 550
That is a very cool rifle in a very cool cartridge one of my favorite 358 NORMA MAGNUM.
It's a great rifle!
There are definite advantages to having a semi-custom rifle built around a military action like a 98 Mauser, 1903 Springfield or and either the P14 or P17 Enfield. M96 actions from Husqvarna and Carl Gustaf Stads too. Even if an original military barrel is completely worn out, actions are generally not worn out. You do not need a super fancy stock. There are plenty available that are mostly ready to have a barreled action fitted into with a minimum of inletting. You don’t need a super long range target barrel for hunting. You can buy a fully chambered and finished barrel for a reasonable amount that any competent gunsmith can fit in an action and set the head space. With the new barrel you have a basically new rifle that will last a lifetime. It’s even better when you can find the ones already done by someone else who are selling to raise cash for something new. I bought a 98 Mauser 8x57 already nicely sporterized with a graft line walnut stock and a cheap scope for a little bit over $300.00. Probably got it that cheap because whoever put it together left the original stepped military on it and it was in poor condition. I’m having it re-barreled in 257 Roberts. With the new barrel I still won’t have over $800.00 invested.
Hello! I agree with you! And the resulting rifle is so satisfying to own. The project itself is interesting and exciting and takes time. Ideal for younger shooters to learn things one can only learn from doing IMHO. Thanks for taking the time to write.
Some of my best shooting rifles were used. Most had dented or scratched stocks,perfect for refinishing and glass bedding. Just a little love and they became my favorite to shoot/hunt with. Perhaps it’s the satisfaction that comes with putting in some work on them.
I'm the same. Something special about used rifles; vintage rifles - the classics.
savage makes a darn fine rifle for the money.. i own 2 model 10s in .223. one synthetic and one is wood. both shoot under 1 moa with factory ammo. both under 700. i think they're very under rated. i would avoid the axis, does the job but feels cheap. same money gets a used model 10 or 11
I found a Savage Model 11, for $300, unfired, in .308 years ago. Most accurate/favorite rifle I've ever shot. I always have people come up to me at the range to offer to spot for me when I shoot it, and they always are amazed when I tell them how much I got for it when they see how it shoots.
Excellent purchase - the Savage is a super accurate rifle - and in .308 - you simply can't go wrong. Thanks for the note.
Really like your show. I am along in years now, but in my day I built many of these rifles. Never did have a bad one. Thanks for bringing the memories back.
Hi Larry - You know what's what. A lot of people are not sure about what it was like after WWII . I spoke to so many veterans - I like to think that I do. All the military rifles that were converted into sporters happened for a reason. The main reason is that we won : )
Agreed my friend. I remember buying Mausers for $29.95 USD all day long . If I had only known then what I know now. I have a Swedish Mauser in 6.5x55 that was sporterized By Kimber Back in 1955. It is still a wonderful shooter.
My first rifle was a 7x57mm Mexican Mauser that had been Ackley Improved. So I was soon sat down in front of the reloading press.
Some good old rifles come with character, class and panache already installed.
Great video as always. There are many many great deals in used guns.most people don't know this but the savage 99 is often found dirt cheap 7 to 8 hundred dollars for a fast handling ultra reliable and super accurate rifle .for all intents this rifle will do anything an 06 or 7mag will do at 300 yds or less .99%of hunting.husky Mausers are even cheaper and better.the list goes on and on.thank you for your great work
Two great rifles Mike. The 358 Norma Magnum would not be out of place hunting sambar deer down here in Victoria or scrub bull up in Northern Queensland or elk and bear up in North America for that matter. The 6.5x55 is an outstanding round and in a German made Krico would be hard to beat reaching out to hit anything from foxes to deer. Thanks for sharing!
Great philosophy for younger people looking for an inexpensive rifle to go hunting with. I don't know anyone that started off with a new rifle, never mind a really expensive piece. Like my buddies I've worked my way up and bought a Henry 45-70 lever action a few years ago, but along with a .22, an old Winchester .308 and a Remington in 30-06 my first and most dependable rifle is still my Lee Enfield No.4 mk1 .303 British. That old Lee Enfield is still my go to Moose and Deer gun over anything else I own. Why? Well, it still feels like an extension of my arm, the action is smooth and quick, ammunition is fairly inexpensive and it's built like a tank and I really don't mind if she picks up a war wound here or there, it just adds to the character. You don't need a custom firearm to go in the bush to try and knock over a deer, the deer doesn't care what you spent on your rifle, or the ammunition you use. Better to get the thoughts of custom this or that out of your head and go simple and effective. You'll be happy you did.
That Kreco would be top shelf in the southern United States
Funny how the rifles bring different prices depending on what continent it’s on
Great video
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The Norma is a beast
The Swede is the Gentleman caliber that’s still doing what it’s done for well over a 100 years
I'm an old man so I shoot an old gun my miroku trap gun is about 40 years old never misses a beat old cz mauser action rifle flawless performer do really need all these pretty guns walnut and engraving doesn't put meat on the table regards as always from beautiful North Wales
Awesome rifle and awesome round to boot. It’s a shame US manufactures if firearms did not chamber fire these shorter Norma magnum rounds.
You can give me that lovely quality old Krico rifle every time in preference to a modern US rifle in the $1000 /$1500 range ,anytime ! .
Much love from old Blighty ! .
Great presentation USOG. That Krico as is would make me a happy hunter/shooter. When we just started big game hunting, my friends had mil surp .303 british rifles. Very usable for the close range hunting we did, and cheap at the time.
Hi Petro - Thank you - I'm receiving letters from young hunters and shooters and they want to know and they want to go...but feel trapped in lives in screens. Good people like you can make all the difference. Not one young person I know has found the wilderness uninteresting. I truly believe we find ourselves in the wilds. Aside from all that - I wish you good and safe hunting. God Bless. : )
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Thanks for the kind words Mike. Yes, I for one found myself in the wilds. Two of my nephews did as well. My youngest always wanted me to take him fishing, the farther from civilization the better. Another always wanted me to take him hiking and backpacking deep off the beaten trail. He still, forty years later, tells me they were some of his fondest memories and thanks me for the times we had. I feel bad for most of today's youth, they're missing out. It makes me happy to see youngsters enjoying the great outdoors.
A great video on the reality that a good used rifle is just as good as any new expensive rifle to hunt with. Most people who purchase those expensive rifles also worry about "scratching" the rifle when they go off in the woods hunting, or they just plain only use it to punch holes in paper at the range. My favorite bolt action hunting rifle is a surplus mosin nagant which I paid a huge sum of 69 dollars for in 1986. It was very accurate and easy to operate no problem. I personally love to peruse the used gun rack at gun shops looking for one of those great bargains Once again thank you for the video.
Thank you for being here Howard; I hope every young man or woman who wants to head for the wilds finds something like one of these and heads out. I'd take the .358 anywhere and not want for anything. All the best to you.
I'm looking at purchasing a 30-06 platform with a Mauser action. Decent wood stock. Everything seems tight, nothing loose about it. With Leopold sight rings. They're asking under $500.00 for it. After watching this video I believe I will make that purchase.
I recently purchased a Savage 110 /30.06 that had been used and abused. Quite a bit of surface rust and a little exterior pitting. The receiver / bolt / barrel were fine operationally. The wood stock was in very good condition. I intend to have it cerakoted, without scope, I will have less than $250 invested when done. Deals like this are out there if you keep you eyes open. I have found more than a few and use them as trading material towards others firearms that I want.
That's perfect Larry - a friend bought a Browning A Bolt which was rusted and the wood was dented - he also Ceracoated and left the wood as is. He spent 400 or so and the rifle shoots just as well as the most pristine A Bolt. Thanks for writing.
Very interesting
This year I'll be hunting with an 1886 Winchester made in 1897 that has an excellent bore in 45-90.
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It seems harder to find used guns in my area. That used to be a fairly large portion of gun shops - certainly the most interesting section. Most of the ones around me only have new items to sell. Perhaps it's what people want, or the stores are skittish about liability on old stuff. Maybe it is that people are just sitting on stuff nowadays. In my youth, I could only sustain a handful of rifles and handguns, so when I wanted something new, something in house had to go. Maybe people have more money now and accumulate rifles as they do other closet-filling items.
Those rifles you show here are real prizes. I remember looking at Kricos on the shelf at stores. Very polished firearms. The P-14s were around too, but I sadly did not know what I was looking at in those years - as with too many other things.
Even though the value isn’t reflective, those rifles are among my most favored because you cannot beat the steel those rifles were made from. Very smooth actions. I have 1917’s from original to various forms of customization and they are hard to beat. The 17’s cock on closing action is incredibly fast for follow up shots. It’s just a brilliant design.
I know I have a tendency to be opinionated, but since the stock on your 1917 needs repair, maybe remove those white line spacers. It would make the rifle look so much cleaner and elegant.
I have a 1903A3 sporterized with a leupold mount and Bausch and Lomb 2.5 to 8 scope in 3006. Bought the rifle from us govt.
A lot of internet and youtube experts rag on the Neanderthal practice of Sporterized military rifles, exhorting blasphemy by ruining a "valuable collector piece."
Baloney! I cherish the '50s Sporterized 'Springfield '03 and Mauser 98 my Father-in-Law handed down to me. I drool when I hold my Uncles Sporterized Lee Enfield.
Having been in machining and gun repair 40+ years, I simply ignore them. Most would poke their eye out with a screwdriver.