Atheists Trusted Sam Harris, Until . . .
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- Sam Harris has been criticizing Christianity and Islam for decades, and he has often made significant factual blunders. Is there an underlying methodology that leads to Sam's mistakes? Fortunately, Sam settled the matter in his interview on Triggernometry! David Wood discusses the issue.
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Sam "I Don't Believe in Censorship, Unless It's Censorship I Believe in" Harris.
…criminally horrible intentional misinformation
Exactly!! Sam Harris’s “WELL BEING” philosophy in nothing more substantive than his own arbitrary subjective metaphysics dressed up with scientism, utilitarianism and materialism of the gaps fallacies.
Utilitarianism and scientism and materialism of the gaps clearly leads to all sorts of absurd and evil conclusions which is why it’s very popular among people who subscribe to the assumption that we are all nothing more substantive than ULTIMATELY MEANINGLESS, HOLLOW AND SOULLESS APES, determined machines, that is nothing more substantive than chemical and biological robots right? Sam is an unapologetic determinist who an actually believes that freewill/the conscious agent is ILLUSORY, that is rational decision making itself is “ILLUSORY” right?
We are clearly not just determined machines. The irony is that Sam Harris makes a six figure sum trying to get people to change their WILL whilst arguing until he’s blue in the face that freewill/the conscious agent is “ILLUSORY” and doesn’t actually exist right? This is comedy gold!!
Furthermore, the controversial philosopher and utilitarian Peter Singer argues that if it is moral and “logical” to abort a baby in the uterus then it “logically” follows that parents should have the “special right” to kill their child even after birth!! Which is clearly murder. But according to the utilitarian Peter Singer if no parent has a preference that the child should live, infanticide within the first months of life can be “morally” justified!!!?
Here Singer takes Sam Harris’s logic and the same utilitarian arguments and pathway that people use to justify abortion in the womb and introduces his horrific dystopian “ethic” of “replaceability”. What a surprise!!
Most normal people naturally recoil in disgust from Peter Singers “special right”, that is Singers horrific dystopian “moral” philosophy, as do I. This guy is basically arguing that you should be able to keep killing babies in the cot until you feel that your personal subjective “special child” has satisfied your subjective preferences and preferred timing!! This is so objectively evil and depraved that it is incredible that anyone could try and justify having an abortion in a scientific and so called “rational” and civilised era!!
It shows the most when one mentions a specific U.S.President in his presence
Harris is proof of how far people will go to justify their sin
Yes these disgusting people. How dare they are a descendant of a fictional woman who eat a apple from a talking snake
Remember, if you don't sin Jesus died for nothing 😂😂😂😂
Yes, and many of us christians shows that we are going even further - hiding behind christianity - to be able to continue sinning.
If we wouldn't have sinned he wouldn't have had to suffer.
@@LtGregoryStevenslol, Jesus died, because we commited sin.
The man just went on the record saying that it's okay to lie to take down anyone/anything that scares you. Why would anyone ever believe anything he has ever had to say?
R u ok with the Trumpster becoming the president again because he tells the crazy Christians what they want to hear? It's a proven fact that he has lied and cheated others and he gets older and fatter and his wives get younger and slimmer! Great Christian man for sure
Oh . . . I got this . . . Because those people are just as delusionally deceived . . . just as evil . . . just as arrogantly ignorant . . . as Sam "the god" Harris.
That’s a leftist rule of engagement. His followers don’t care because they do the same.
@@joshuagunderson6593 Consider for a moment everyone who watches the Democrat/Leftist media is being told *DAILY* that TRUMP is *HITLER* . . . which the left has been doing non-stop since 2016.
As *WRONG* as they are . . . I can understand imagining TRUMP was an existential threat . . . and the *ONLY* way to save our "mu-democracy" is to destroy the Democratic process.
It has nothing to do with Judaism itself, or Jews in particular. *ALL* the programmed NPCs of the Left have become droids.
@@joshuagunderson6593 R u an anti-Semite?
I've long disbelieved the notion that the ones who care most for honesty and truth are the ones who don't believe that absolute truth exists.
Sam Harris took a phD in Christianity from a cereal box.
best way, keep it simple
@@tommyrotton9468 For simple read simplistic..
How many mail-in labels for that?
Sam Harris is a mediocre academic and an evil man.
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This is why you don't trust people with a purely utilitarian ethic, because when sufficient cause is enough to justify any means. Any means will always have sufficient cause.
Clearly Sam thinks one is worse than the other.
Peter Singer has entered the chat
Humans have a great ability to come up with seemingly good reasons for whatever actions they want. Utilitarianism is the philosophy of any action can be moral if you have enough good reasons.
_"And 'do as thou wilt' be the whole of the law..."_
@@Xbalanque84Clearly, if doing whatever you want is the whole law, there is no "law" at all. So why laws? Why governments?
Thank you Dr David for correcting Sam Harris in public as he quoted scriptures WRONGLY in public🙏
And how should the scriptures be quoted then? Because every christian i meet gives me a different explanation.
@@janbuyck1like any other “quote” you might hear. I’d suggest looking and studying for yourself. It’s no different than the quote on FB that is attributed to famous people. So many are outright fabrications. Critical thinking doesn’t stop because a “Christian” says it. Common sense really.
@@janbuyck1there is one, Jesus quoting a parable :)
oooh boy we quoted the wittle storwee book incorrectwee
@@aicram62 Which wittle storwee book was quoted incowwectwee...The Bible??? Simple question for you: How many books is The Bible??? If you answer that one cowwectly, maybe we can discuss why English translations of Greek and Hebrew are also very important to get cowwect! I await your reply...
If tyrants always try to control God imagine how they will control people
We saw the outcome of this in Nazi Germany. The party only used the church for their, secular and evil needs alone and to manipulate the masses into their will that was contradictory to that of God's. Hitler in reality HATED christianity vehemently. All that rhetoric about "doing God's will" and "loving Jesus" was all fluff.
The professional atheists need to take ownership of the disaster that is the new Western culture.
they'll just blame someone else.
@@racerx4152 No. I think they will gladly take ownership, because for them, this is progress.
What is this disaster connected to atheism?
The vast majority of Americans profess belief in God. Your problem isnt atheism, its the american "dream" that is in dire need of an update with a more social outlook.
@@DaveZee823 i was wondering the same.
I'll stick to Jesus in a world full of deception and half truths
Amen Carp 👍, Amen.
Too bad Jesus in just one more of them...
@@MrGustavier If you're suggesting Jesus is a deception Gusty, gimme your personal that Jesus was a mythical character. And please don't reply with words from your atheist catechism, those words are nothing to me. I need to see your subjective proof about Jesus being a deception.
Well said God bless ✝️
@@MrGustavier18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. (1 Corinthians 1:18-19, KJV)
The fact that Sam said all that with a smile on his face truly tells a lot about the insidious insanity of this pseudo intellectual
As an old atheist I love your channel! Great nod and concise summaries. Keep it up!
Most Christians don't hate Atheists, i find the discourse a fantastic opportunity to sharpen our debating skills and faith.
Have a great day.
I was an atheist for over a decade. Been an interesting journey
@@jhoughjr1 I turned my back on God for about 35 years, put through the grinder, the last 3.5 years have "Been an interesting journey'' ... ;D All the best
@@jhoughjr1welcome to the world of reason!
@den8863 They didn't even say what religion! How reasonable...
For some reason I have always had an intuitive feeling that Sam Harris speaks and works in bad faith. He hates religions-all religions.
Sadly, that is my experience with most new online atheists. They hate religion. I actually had a conversation with someone who kept on denying Christianity's impact on societies and kept saying Asian countries haven't been thatmuch helped by Christianity. Little did he know that I live in an Asian country, that the Christians helped to build churches, schools, hospitals and do charity in. Thank God for Christians! My family line was originally Taoists and Jesus Christ saved my family!
Most, (if not all, honestly), new-atheists are like this
Nihilist
What's wrong with hating all religions ?
It's putting faith over reason.
@@lewis72 Faith is the necessary precondition for ANY reason.
"There is an existential threat to our democracy, so I am going to undermine the democracy..."
I agree. You persecute nazis to protect non nazis from persecution
Like that commander in the Vietnam war: "we had to destroy the village to save it."
@@catharperfect7036 "We have to save Democracy so we can destroy it!"
Saving democracy is a claim that allows anyone to do anything, thereby destroying it and anything else they touch.
@@warnerchandler9826 communists will always use the argument "for the greater good" to comit atrocities. Read the manifestos from lenin, that will enlighten you.
It is said that the Bible is the book that makes people atheist. Sam Harris is the person that makes people not atheist anymore. Some decade ago after listening to him, the cat started peeping out of the bag. Like watching a child tell everyone about the great discoveries he had made...
Comparing Sam Harris to a child ironically proves you are intellectually dishonest and should therefore, not be taken seriously.
The man’s a neuroscientist for gods sake. I guarantee you he has convinced many people of his free will is an illusion of an illusion and atheist arguments. Just because you wish it were not so (I know the religious love believing that as long as you want something to be true it is) does not make him ineffective in his argumentation.
I don't know how Sam would make anyone believe in God, but it is however very easy to understand why many people lose their faith in Christianity after reading the Bible, since it is so scientifically inaccurate and internally inconsistent with lots of contradictions, and it claims that God is good even though he is very evil in many of the stories, and also lots of the content of the Bible that essentially is about telling us how to live as good people, lots of these verses are instead great examples that the people who wrote the Bible had different beliefs than we do today about what is good and evil.
@@Kanzu999atheist argument bingo💀
@@okkoh5430 Why do you think it's a common argument? And why do you think the Bible is one of the reasons that some Christians leave their faith?
@@Kanzu999when people refuse to do proper research and ask people the right questions with the idea of learning rather than shaming
I used to be an atheist. It was the most religious I've ever been.
With the right delivery, that could be in a stand up routine. Sometimes, it’s funny cause it’s true.
Reminded me of this old philosopher's claim.
"This is the real meaning of that mystery which appears so prominently in the lives of great sceptics, which appears with especial prominence in the life of Charles II. I mean their constant oscillation between atheism and Roman Catholicism. Roman Catholicism is indeed a great and fixed formidable system, but so is atheism. Atheism is indeed the most daring of all dogmas, more daring than the vision of a palpable day of judgment. For it is the assertion of a universal negative; for a man to say there is no God in the universe is like saying there are no insects in any of the stars."
- G. K. Chesterton, Charles II, the Twelve Types, 1906, p. 95
Please explain in clear detail, how being an atheist was the most religious you had ever been?
@@waynejoiner given the irrefutable fact atheism is the religious belief based exclusively on a lack of evidence on purpose. Claiming God may not exist due to a lack of evidence which is the definition of an appeal to ignorance logical fallacy claim. Atheism by logic requires the most blind faith humanly possible to believe their religious claim about God. Atheism is the "blind religion without science" scientists have always complained about.
"Religion and science go together. As I've said before, science without religion is useless and religion without science is blind. They are interdependent and have a common goal-the search for truth. ... And it is equally absurd when scientists say that there is no God. The real scientist has faith, which does not mean that he must subscribe to a creed."
- Albert Einstein, Third conversation (1948): William Hermanns, Einstein and the Poet: In Search of the Cosmic Man (1983), p. 94
"Atheism is indeed the most daring of all dogmas, more daring than the vision of a palpable day of judgment. For it is the assertion of a universal negative; for a man to say there is no God in the universe is like saying there are no insects in any of the stars."
- G. K. Chesterton, Charles II, the Twelve Types, 1906, p. 95
@@waynejoiner these types of atheists seem to be on a crusade to end all other religions. many have a belief system and all in all are mirror images as those they mock. there are even atheist churches
An excellent and forensic dismantling of Harris and his huge ego.
It’s literally not. He lied about what Sam said at the end, and completely forgot the first part of his own video citing that people make mistakes in live interviews when he called Sam’s mistake quoting Luke a lie.
@@Tinesthia😂😂😂 ig u missed the looong part of the video where Sam lied about what Jesus said in PREPARED remarks demonstrating no further need to take sams sad lack of veracity seriously 🤡🤡🤣🤣
@@G1stGBless oh yes, expertly taken down. A clip from like 15 years ago either misstating or misinterpreting the passage. Gosh, this guy really got him.
@@bengreen171 You are the pathetic liar. Sam Harris didn't present "his interpretation" of the parable as you attempt here. He stated it as a commandment from Jesus, in a comparative way as Muhammad does. And he has repeated this same tactic in other videos in an attempt to "equalise" Islamic violence with Christianity as if the teachings were similar. So no, you're not being honest here.
@@bengreen171you do realise your point is... pointless right?
Did Jesus order his disciples to kill people directly or by inference from a parable? Did Jesus even imply that anybody should kill anybody? Absolutely not!
Of cause God will send people to hell! Why is that a problem? You choose where you want to go and He will gladly (or not so gladly depending on your choice) send you there
OK. I'm pretty slow and my mother tongue isn't English, but the point of this video was that Sam's moral foundation considers deception and fabrications as a good and justifying behavior if you have an existential threat facing you and he believed that Christian faith is an existential threat, therefore to deceive and fabricate lies about Christian faith in goal to destroy it, is perfectly justifiable according to Sam's moral code? That is the message, right?
That pretty much sums it up.
Yes, and it would have been clearer if this was about a 5 minute video.
That's pretty much the entire approach to all things Left. Post-modernism allows them to come up with any view point regardless of the basis in reality or facts. Post-modernism says there is no right or wrong view point, it's all subjective.
Once they have this view point(which typically is just a creation of their feelings and how they want to imagine themselves in the world) comes the concept of "Truthiness". Truthiness means that even if a statement is a lie, if it supports the greater truth of the person's view point, it is not a deception nor is it morally wrong.
This is similar to Islam where lying to protect the faith is a moral good.
There are many similarities to the Left and Islam as they are both false religions.
@@johnsmithers8913 *-"That's pretty much the entire approach to all things Left. Post-modernism allows them to come up with any view point regardless of the basis in reality or facts. Post-modernism says there is no right or wrong view point, it's all subjective."*
Not exactly. Post moderns think that anyone that pretends to have access to *"reality or facts"* is basically just a _"naive realist"_ or voluntarily deceitful to increase one's power.
*-"Once they have this view point(which typically is just a creation of their feelings and how they want to imagine themselves in the world)"*
As far as I know everything we know about neuroscience, cognitive science, sociology, anthropology, support the post modern *"view point".*
*-"This is similar to Islam where lying to protect the faith is a moral good."*
You're thinking about _"taqiyya"_ ?
This is exactly the same for christians... Look at David Wood right here, who is willing to misrepresent things if it better fits his narrative... A real post modern !
Its like how for 4 years people were saying trump is literally hitler. Doesnt that make removing him from office at any cost ok? So why is it seen as crazy to claim democrats cheated? Ofcourse they cheated, they had a moral obligation to remove hitler from power by any means.
One time in Houston, I went to an atheist convention {that they have every year} where they give away various books, one of which is called "the X-rated Bible". This is a perfect example of what you're talking about: No care is given for accuracy. It's filled with non stop inuendo. Well, I happen to have a Hebrew Bible that I checked against what they were putting forth and found a lot of twisting around of words to get them to say things to fit their narrative. It just so happened that I befriended a couple that were helping to put it on and I ended up going over to their apartment to hang out with them. Nicest people you'd ever want to meet as is the case with a lot of {undercover} couples that are involved with various projects. Anyway, when I brought up the inconsistencies it didn't seem to matter to them. It was like water off a ducks back. One of the things that was put forth is where it talks about the groves; saying that it is really talking about phalic symbols and the word "groves" is referring to "vaginas". Well the word that they're talking about is "Ah-shay-reem" which is a masculine plural noun. I'll admit that there are a handfull of words that are feminine that have an irregular masculine plural ending in Hebrew, but this isn't one of them. This is just one of many false narratives that I discovered put forth in that book slandering the Bible.
Are you saying that a grammatically masculine plural noun can't mean "vaginas"? (I assume you are not objecting to the "plural" part, since "groves" and "vaginas" are both plural.) There are plenty of examples in language where one can feel hard-pressed to understand why a grammatical "gender" is assigned to something that seem "gender-inappropriate"; in German, "die Schlange" (whence the Yiddish, schlong, for "penis"), which means "snake," is grammatically feminine. In this particular case, there are Earth goddess reasons that make this assignment coherent. If "groves" are places associated with some reproduction festival, the grammatically male vaginas can become coherent.
However, the more pertinent point is that objecting to grammatically masculine "vaginas" makes two errors. First, the majority of grammatical gender has nothing to do with an analogous gender; that we have forms like "el gato" and "la gata" to indicate male and female cats is likely subsequent to generalized gender distinctions in grammar in the first place. But still more pertinently still, why should "groves" be masculine at all. Are you imagining that the trees are phallic symbols, so that's why someone decided to use the masculine grammatical case for "groves". 99% of the time, grammatical gender is merely conventional and has nothing to do with any gender-assignment in the actual world. There are cases (elohim, for example) where the distinction probably matters, but they are infrequent, and one should not make too much of it most of the time. In German, "young girl" is in the neuter case. C'est la langue!
Why if God is omnipresent does he not appear to everyone personally and demonstrated his divinity.
@@michael-vl1mn Sure, but why must he? Also, how do you know he isn't appearing (right now) but you don't recognize him? Or, again, he did appear (as Jesus); what more to do you want?
Of course, the actual reason is that he doesn't exist. But still, your question assumes its conclusion. It's somewhat fair to object that human "yardsticks" for measuring the divine are inappropriate but, on the other hand, if our knowledge of the divine is only that it is incomprehensible, then we never have any idea what we're even talking about.
I'd rather the question you asked was: why would anyone want the Abrahamic god to appear. We should all be grateful that that horrible being stays away.
Because, according to the theists he created us so he should be concerned about his creation.@@talastra
@@michael-vl1mn I agree that that's a lovely thing to expect of a creator, as we expect as much from a parent, but there is no tacit reason why this should be the case in the abstract, and nothing to argue that it must be the case if Yahweh decides he can't be bothered.
Thank you David for posting this.
Athiests try not to take the Bible out of context challange: impossible
All they really can do honestly.
The context is whatever you need it to be to justify your prerequisite belief
they have to do that to support their personal agenda
What is the context behind owning Slaves?
@@DaveZee823 the context is that it is a universal reality and God gave people a better way that was previously not regulated. Debt makes us all slaves. We are a slave to taxes. We are also a slave to our own desires if we do not accept Jesus as our lord.
How the hell did he think America would turn into a Christian Theocracy? That is pure and utter derangement, much like the derangement he's experiencing with Trump.
Wouldn't you say this is exactly what "christian nationalists" want to do ?
It's especially ridiculous because not only does the bible itself says that Christianity will dwindle, America is leaning so far left any person with a single braincell can see that there is no way the country will turn into a Christian theocracy.
I would venture to say it maybe because he has the capacity to be an intellectually dishonest nincompoop.
Call me a devil's advocate, but one thing I've noticed about the US is that it's a breeding ground for cultic groups, and they're pretty good at getting Christians to side with them.
Republicans are working hard towards that.
I love how David delivers his message!
When I first started listening to the “intellectual dark web,” I really appreciated Sam’s views and arguments because I’ve always felt that a devils advocate only helps strengthen the truth. During COVID, as he and Bret Weinstein had some disagreements, it became more and more clear that Sam behaves all too similar to the woke left. He just doesn’t bring that same intellectual curiosity to the table anymore. Perhaps he’s at home reading Revelations.
In any case, thank you David for shedding light and providing great content.
@@korvaamiko66Lol, but you mean oxymoron. Ad hominem is attacking the person rather than their argument.
You're right, he does act like the woke left, group identity above truth. It is because the woke left agenda is pushed from the globalist agenda. Communism and national socialism are the same thing. It is state control over the people. We observe a western version of the USSR Bolshevist agenda. The talmud universe is one in opposition of logic or logos. Defining the truth themself. Social polarisation is also a dangerous idea that media keeps repeating. One of the propaganda tools. The idea itself is polarising. It proposes a reality that two worlds exists which is absolutely bs. The synthesis is that the literacy we hear in the public domain does not match the symbolism we observe.
Harris would be a great Muslim apologist!
😂😂😂
Harris Dawah
Excellent use of out of context scripture. He's ready to join team Dawah
I imagine Harris gonna say shahada and circle around the black stone, Alhamdulillah 😂
Or a good Christian apologist.
The 2010s internet atheism movement was the most homo-erotic phenomenon to ever exist.
Red pill: hold my bugah-ee
A lot of people confuse the created mind for the Creator's mind.
Because it was one big circle j-
@@thebirdaplierphd.memeology3411😭😭😭😭
What mate?
Very good video. You're right. You're the ONLY one who caught it. I didn't catch it, till you interpreted it. I thought he was saying he was concerned about whether or not theology was "right" --- but he didn't say that. Thanks for the clarification.
My guy idk if this is bad luck of the algorithm or what, but I've been craving for someone who actually delivers good humor in an intellectual setting like this and you just took gold medal for me, good job!
I thought he did. Sam:s concern is that Trump will end democracy by discrediting an election and staying in power. Kinda like what Trump attempted to do which is why some state supreme courts are taking Trump off the ballot.
I remember I caught this when he did that interview. I talked to my hardcore atheist conservative friend about it, whose hero is Sam Harris. He agreed that Sam Harris was dumb and wrong to say that about trump.
So I told him, "Well, if he is willing to lie, cheat, and do whatever it takes to make sure he doesn't win, would it be fair to say he would do the same for Christianity?"
Friend: Huh? No, no, absolutely not. He is intellectually honest when it comes to religion.
An atheist and a conservative? That's an odd combo.
Pretty common actually.
Atheist=a shortcut to a lack of intelligence and an inability for accountability. Only the fool in his heart says there is no God. The proud will be humbled, every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord. Every atheist will be humbled, not now but when they are judged by the God they blaspheme and deny now.
isnt hardcore atheist conservative friend a song by the fall?
@@FIRE0KING only if you think anything right of Lenin is conservative...
Intellectual honesty aka Prideful arrogance.
While you're humble for believing you're the only important thing in the universe
@@konyvnyelv. where did you get that?
@@konyvnyelv.No true Christian believes that.
@@konyvnyelv.
Where did OP say that?
@@konyvnyelv. Think you're projecting hard here man.
Does anyone know the timestamp of the Idea City talk when Harris quotes Luke 19?
This guy calling OTHER people narcissists is one of the more amazing ironies I've ever experienced.
Couldn't have put it better.
😂 indeed!
Precisely!
I'm not seeing the narcissism in objective reasoning. He caught Sam, plain and simple. That doesn't necessarily make Sam a narcisist either.
So he is a narcist, heck lets say he is the devil himself . Does that mean Sam Harris wasn't lying thru his teeth?
The problem isn't the fact that so many people believe the lies, it's that they don't care about being lied to! If it fits with their bias, they welcome them!
"... while evil people and impostors will go on from bad to worse, deceiving and *being deceived.* " -2 Timothy 3: 13
I used to wonder about the "being deceived" part of that verse and ask: "why would someone willingly and knowingly participate in their own deception?" The answer is narcissism, the foundation of atheism. They know they are liars, they just don't care.
God save them all.
"The problem isn't the fact that so many people believe the lies, it's that they don't care about being lied to! If it fits with their bias, they welcome them!"
That's one of the simplest & best critiques of religion I have seen.
@@cnault3244 Oh look, another religophobe and apologist for liars.
@@cnault3244 Just religion? I think _your_ bias is showing. I'd say humanity in general. I see that dynamic not just in religion (I include atheism in that category), but also in politics, sports, relationships, social issues, and pretty much everything else, even science.
In Sam's defense, he has no free will so he is not capable of intellectual honesty.
ya i always thought it was funny that people can have that world view then care about anything. None the less listening to some idiot tell you that you have no free will.
@@mastershake4641why would not having free will mean that you wouldnt care about anything?
@@Greyz174Because no one controls anything they do, so trying to get other people to change is stupid. Thats why Sam Harris is stupid. He literally goes around trying to change everyones mind when he knows they dont choose what they believe. (Sam Harris doesnt actually believe anything he says, hes just a grifter)
😂 That's a good joke
@@Greyz174i would like to respond here, but I don’t have the will.
This is also why intelligent people have to refuse the temptation of pride. While it may be tempting and amusing to mock other people for their mistakes and failures; they should never assume that they're above making one themselves. The problem with being that smart, is that their mistakes and failures tend to be bigger, longer lasting, and affecting more people....those sorts of mistakes are not so easy to fix.
To quote Albus Dumbledore; "I make mistakes like the next man. In fact being, forgive me, rather cleverer than most men, my mistakes tend to be correspondingly huger."
This is an absolutely outstanding analysis. The funny thing is that Sam was one of the more intellectually honest of the "four horsemen"!!
I agree. The Four Donkeys have fizzled to the "Dizzle". But something David did not focus on was the aspect that "Well Intention-ed" plays in Sam's treasonous reasoning. *ANYTHING* is justified when the person is "Well Intention-ed". The collusion, conspiracy, fraud, deception and out right criminal interference in the election was *"OK"* because these powerful people were "Well Intention-ed".
@@asunnynight9592how can you not understand that that was an example on how to misinterpret what one says using the same method that Sam uses. Basically his purposely making a joke to show what Sam did with his own misinterpretation.
@@asunnynight9592 How wollyish can you be. The Jesus example that Sam distorted is understood by all christians or academics, to be a parable. What equivalent text in the quran, that david has claimed is not a parable, is understood by all muslims to be a parable? Do you seriously think it's relevant to say there are some parables in the quran if he isn't quoting one. But if there are some parables in the bible and he is quoting one then it is relevant. Whatever passage you have in mind in the quran that you think is violent and really a parable, can you show from the tafsir(islamic commentaries, particularly early accepted ones), that it is a parable. I don't think so.
oh please, show me an intellectually honest apologetic. I'll wait
@@Southpaw88 You are changing the subject. Your belief that there are no intellectually honest apologetics or apologists, isn't an excuse for atheists to be not intellectually honest.
Funny how Sam embraces the tenets of Islam: lying justifies the goal of promoting a specific slant of the truth.
Islamic people don’t even follow their own rules, where’s the peace and tolerance in Palestine when they’re raping and killing civilians? Religion is a plague
Tenets of islam...lol ... there are none...
Lol😂😂😂
@@munteza9262
Beyond sucking Mo's you-know-what.
atheist religion and islame is one and the same, LOOK:
While islame claims that women have semen production near the necklage area, then atheist religion claims that men can give birth.
What's the difference?
It's amazing how Trump has broken these kinda of people.
It’s most shocking thing ever, he broke the left so bad, they destroyed every single institution completely just to destroy or get Trump.
Democrat is Sam harris’s religion.
Just by being himself, lol
@@Archer170 precisely, Sicialism is Marxism, is a cult.
The amazing part is how even basic logic escapes them. The entire "Trump tried to subvert the election" narrative falls apart when you realize he could have simply declared an emergency, seize emergency powers, and bypass the election entirely.
this was FANTASTIC.........thanks David, much appreciated
Thank you for spelling this out. I didn’t understand until the end. Thanks for sharing
You should always back up a verse or two. Save yourself a ton of embarrassment. What a maroon.
I don't think he was being moronic, I think it's intentional.
Maroon is a color, moron is a very stupid or foolish person : idiot. Not trying to be rude, just a trying to help you.
I love that the Triggernometry guys just just sit there with a neutral expression and allow their guests to dig themselves deeper and deeper into a hole.
Certainly gives them more clicks
Maybe I'm projecting, but they looked a little horrified to me.
@@danatowne5498I somewhat agree Sam Harris has the same effect on me. The guy oozes of dishonesty and horrible political positions. I mean who determines what’s a threat to the level he claims Trump or Christianity is/was?
@@justchilling704 , and there lies the problem with all "the ends justify the means" arguments - imho.
yes, because the user of those arguments, Sam Harris in this case, loses all credibility going forward. @@danatowne5498
I just discovered this channel and now feel like it will finally be a nice safe haven from the “new atheists”. The most annoying thing to hear is when they take one line from a scripture and read it out of context. Like at 6:00 when he didn’t even acknowledge that Jesus was telling a STORY. They love to do that thing with parables, where they forget the context.
I think I know the name of this certain methodology you mentioned and it usually goes by the name of “narcissism”.
I listened to that interview ,and while I caught what he was saying then I did not put 2 and 2 together , I missed part of it
"We can't afford 4 more years of Trump. "
A few years later all the prices have more than doubled and the interest rates have tripled.
Sam doesn't have a clue.
People can't afford his vanity.
Now imagine what would happen if trump actually stayed
Trump attempted a fkn coup when he lost. As for the interest rates, they could've gone either way with any president. What matters is the morals of a president, his commitment to the democratic process and the respect to step down if voted down.
@@celestialsatheist1535 I don't think it would have. I ain't one to praise Trump or say he is perfect, we all know he, nor anyone else is, but we had the best economy of my lifetime when he was president. Dems seem to only be able to destroy.
I’ve never wasted my time listening to or reading Harris, and these clips confirm the wisdom of that decision. Your example is one of those truisms that would be funny if it weren’t so profoundly tragic: we’re now looking at the very real possibility of the dollar crashing this fall, and our nation has been dismantled from within. Harris is about to gain a forced membership to the great reset beast system and is he ever going to be disappointed when the one world religion is mandatory.
@@asdf-bm4df what do u do when someone blatantly steals from u and everyone seem to agree it's the right thing to do??
Sam is the example of being a scholar in one field does not mean you know what you’re talking about in another one.
Which is why a pastor/reverend/etc does not know what they are talking about when they talk about the theory of evolution or the big bang theory
@@cnault3244 This is very often true. As a Christian it's embarrassing how many have no clue what they're talking about. I believe there's issues with those theories, but many pastors don't even know what the evidence is.
@@Roescoe They should probably start reading into Ken Ham's work at minimum first, or the Institute for Creation Research.
He is an example of being a dishonest scholar.
@@cnault3244my Church never denied those since the moment they came out
Thank you for taking the time to clarify this idiot. I guarantee that what you say is correct. Most of the people will not bother to research any of these idiotic comments. You are the MAN!
Thank you for holding my hand throughout.
Shows you how important lying is to Sam Harris. If it’s for his ‘greater good’, lying is warranted.
Brilliant video
Very Machiavellian of him.
And this shows that for Sam, morality is subjective not an objective truth.
He's a PROUD deceiver.
Very much a muslim principle.. so he's in good company..
Dillahunty behaves exactly the same way.
I am still an atheist, and I was a fan of Sam Harris, but I used reason and evidence to conclude that Sam Harris is okay with intellectual dishonesty and deception, and I'm not a fan of him anymore. I can say that at least I have been consistent. I have also not lost my understanding of X and Y chromosomes, despite society trying to pretend those don't exist or don't do anything.
You're an atheist, but your idea of morality is Christian.
Reason has no morality, you can see this on full display here with Sam Harris. He reasoned that lying and gaslighting are for the greater good. All of this reasoning took place in his head with zero acknowledgment of an objective moral standard outside of his head.
You seem to be trying to recognize an objective moral law outside of your own mind, something that exists whether you exist or not.
In an Atheist worldview, why would there be an objective morality? A right or wrong? A good or bad? How do you account for this moral standard other than how it affects you or how it affects others? What is to say it is right or wrong?
Sam Harris is honest. Go read many CHRISTIAN interpretations of the Ten Minas. They all say Jesus is using the parable to describe himself. Why else would he be speaking it?
You should read David Bentley Hart’s book: The Experience of God. It will rock your world/worldview.
@@CS.AtheistChannel.VoteBidenAOC i have been a Catholic for 1/2 my life.. then Bacame a Christian (no denomination) inhave heard 20 or 30 different interpretations of this passage in 4 diffrent countries.. Never once did i hear that one not once. You are doing the same thing that Sam does.. you take an obscure interpretation then apply it to all. This is done by all extremists and zealots.. I hear the Stalin Atheist argument all the damn time.. or the Hitler "christian" argument.. All utter trash even with the most basic level of inquiry.
@@merc8es oh come on.. if you are going to aregue don't do it with "what you belive is so stupid".. This is the stuff why both sides hate me.. I see the same styles on both sides and they are equally revolting.
Nice critique. Similar thoughts coming from a Hindu perspective. I would love to hear your thoughts on Dharmic "mutual respect based on reciprocity" vs Abrahamic "tolerance" for the others. Do you believe the latter is a real road to long lasting peace?
Never was much of a Harris fan, first thing I saw from Harris was the Peterson conversation, where Sam seemed to argue that one could infer morality from science. Meaning that either he didn't properly understand science, or believed that one could infer an ought from an is. I considered both possibilities to be too problematic to take the guy serious in regards to morality.
Sam Harris has never been as smart as Sam Harris believed he was, he is a big fan of situational ethics, and so there isn't a situation that requires him to be ethical. Thing about those who indulge in lies they can never be trusted or relied on.
How are ethics not situational? Is it ethical to lie? Depends on the situation doesn’t it? Is it ethical to shoot someone? Depends on the situation. Etc……..
@@fess749 false equivalents, and no because there are some lines you do not cross
@@brettchristoffel6391 The ethics of virtually any action you take will be judged by the situation in which you take it. In almost any case, the morality of any action you take will be judged based on the circumstances and situation you were in when you took it.
I can’t judge the ethics of you punching someone in the face until I know what the situation was when you did it. Were they attacking you, or were they just minding their business?
I find his practiced calm, superior shitck grating. This demeanor of Olympian gravitas is taken by his fans as indicating deep profundity. I remember watching his debate with Jordan Peterson. Peterson came across as a much nuanced, candid thinker. The trouble with Harris is that he doesn't have the wit of Hitchens or the intellect of John Lennox (whom I'd be would Harris would debate).
To put my cards on the table, I am not an atheist, but hold no brief against those who hold such a view. Hitchens was at least amusing, though I grant Harris is not as tiresome as Dawkins. What really did in Harris for me -- as apparently it did for many others -- was his absolutely unhinged comments about Trump. C'mon, I didn't vote Trump either in 2016 or 2020, but to state he was such as existential threat to democracy that would justify what Harris indicated he would do to stop he being elected borders on thinking that is troubling to say the least. I think Harris's time has past. If I want to listen to an atheist, I'd pick Bret Weinstein, a more cordial and more circumspect thinker who doesn't go outside his lane as a biologist.
Satan is the father of lies. Just sayin.
I just had a conversation yesterday with one of his "disciples" and how morality is a spectrum and so sin doesn't exist and "I should give him a chance to define what secular law is" I was baffled; why would I leave God's exact definition of sin and righteous and go listen to an atheist say how murder is in a spectrum of well-being so it can be justified somehow. Being a persistent atheist is a waste of life. Harris is the perfect embodiment of how foolish it is.
Everything is a "spectrum" or "umbrella" and "50 shades of gray" nowadays.
Even gender now!
It just start doing awful things to him until he admitted they were objectively wrong.
It’s like a buffet of right and wrong, we atheists are therefore the most enlightened champions of science 😂😂😂
@@tedoneil7464 yes. Atheists are the most moral and most smartest. How am I moral without an objective standard? Well, this is simple. There is no need for an objective standard and if you say otherwise you are a liar, dishonest and fallacy
Perfectly laid out. Thank you David.
None of this Bible quoting makes me believe in God... be nice if it did but its not exactly proof
@@jimtuite3451 I agree, quoting the Bible does not *PROVE* the Bible. However, the *TRUTH* of the things *RECORDED* in the Bible, historically, logically, and though provokingly, should lead an open minded person to ponder it's source.
Unfortunately, irrational people like Richard Dawkins are predisposed to ignore reality if it violates their assumptions. Richard famously admitted that *EVEN IF* God personally appeared before Richard, and had a conversation, and performed MIRACLES, Richard would dismiss it as his own hallucination or insanity.
That's not very rational.
amazing piece, David. Thank you, you master of patient irony.
As a Christian I do not shy away from hearing dissenting beliefs and criticisms. I actually love being challenged since Jesus said to love God with all our hearts and MINDS. I remember I started going down the rabbit hole with Sam Harris and after a few hours thought "If this is the best Atheists can do...I see a HUGE shift towards Christianity soon"
" I see a HUGE shift toward Christianity soon" Its a shame you would allow these guys to lead you to start " going down the rabbit hole" Some people are just not deep thinkers
@@jared2244 Please clarify your point. I listened to the opposition to my beliefs. I don't want to remain in an echo chamber. Resistance in weights builds muscle. I wanted to know what people that dont believe like me think and why.
Harris does not represent atheists.
Then that's not completely honest. If you really want to engage someone else, you need to entertain the possibility that they could sway you. Otherwise, if nothing they say could change your mind, then why engage?
Also, no atheist will base their stance fully on what Sam Harris says. They can and will disagree with him. Atheism isn't an ideology where the beliefs of the ones "in charge" serve as a good way to measure the beliefs of the ones who gathered. It's case by case.
And no, he's far from the best
@@chrisjohn1980 I didn't say I couldn't be swayed. You are reading into my statements a straw man and preconceived notions and you don't know ANYTHING about me. I am a Christian based on my choices and understandings I arrived at in my life experiences. I seek out the opinions of NON Christians and want to know what people that don't think like me think and how they see the world. How do you get from ANYTHING I said that I can't be swayed? I don't know you. Can you be swayed from your atheism? You are here listening to a Christian's commentary but I don't ASSUME you are closed minded and take NOTHING away from this video because you don't believe in God....
I'm very happy that Sam Harris brought to everyone's attention how corrupted he is, so much for someone whose entire career is based on how "smart and honest he is", pathetic
Yes because getting a couple verses wrong and having David Wood agreeing with him about lying being arguably good in some circumstances is soooo corrupt.
And sadly he’s still duping his gullible fans into being as smug as they are simple.
@@Tinesthia Interesting, you still support him. It shows how brain washed you and his other followers are. So delusional. Sam Harris intentionally misrepresents Jesus. He didn't get those verses accidentally wrong.
sam harris is a machine whose programming has had a hidden bug until the right input was received. input 'trump' result blue screen of death, input 'christianity' result blue screen of death. wonder what other inputs cause the machine to malfunction?
@@Tinesthia Is conspiracy corrupt? That's the big question. I think it's possible to not be corrupt, but you need an authority to determine that.
Sam is a lost soul that things he's right about everything but couldn't be more wrong.
Almost a masterpiece of a video 🤌 The only part that I saw that was inaccurate was at 18:40 - 19:40. Sam didn't necessarily say "Christianity" was an existential threat to the U.S. But rather "Christian Theocracy in the United States." I give this video a surprising 98%. Very high for this type of content. 👏
This explains a lot, I've had atheists say some random things when accusing God. The few times I've asked them for their reasoning, they'll sometimes take some random poetic verse and apply it literally. I've even had an atheist immediately change positions and say that even if God didn't say it, the fact that something cruel is in the Bible means that it's wrong... like something terrible happened historically or in a parable = God bad. The Harris effect I guess
It's no wonder atheists keep making the same accusations no matter how many times or how many people answer them
Oh my gosh when they take poetic verses out of context it’s so dumb.
You already know you can destroy the argument if it’s a poetic out of context verse situation because it just shows how uninformed they are
@@circaSG07 Well... technically, pdf file atheists do not use the pronoun _human_ about themselves, they actually prefer the more precise pronoun _animal._ And I agree. Atheists are not humans. Go study what mao did. Go study what lenin did. What the cheka files is.
@@bikesrcool_1958which verses are taken that way?
This goes along with my belief that most of the new atheist types were bigger fundamentalists than most christian fundamentalists. There isn’t a scripture that they’ve seen that they do not take literally.
Sorry I don't know how Sam Harris is, but he does sound like he is full of it.
Yep 👍
Sam Harris is fantastic. He's not full of it at all
👍To recap; it was an excellent clip Mr Wood.
Weird. TH-cam unsubbed me. Resubbed. Great work again Dr. David.
My former pastor Andy Stanley is so enamored with Sam Harris that he changed his theology after listening to Sam.
God help this lost shepherd.
The pastor like many it is usually is , never knew Jesus....
He was never Christian. He treats his church like his family inheritance.
Your formal paster was a fake Christian.
I have never seen someone abandon Christ and devolve into the occult so rapidly, unless he was always there and I never paid him much attention.
This video absolutely ends Sam Harris. No one can take him seriously for anything again lol
Sure you can, if you share his moral framework. You just have to accept that truth is subservient to morality, which is how plenty of people live their lives anyway.
@@jrd33and a lot of people can't be taken seriously for reasons like these.
You'd hope so, but there's a reason why the late Greg Bahnsen stated, "I don't have enough faith to be an atheist." (that was later taken by Frank Turek)
@@TheCybercoco I don’t have enough evidence to be a theist.
@@horridhenry9920Sure you do. Things exist, things dont create themselves, therefore something created them. Now you are a theist, congrats. Otherwise you are an idiot.
Great analysis. Much love from Ghana
Oh this makes the last few years make so much sense! I don't know how many similar crazy things about the Bible I've heard lately
Did you notice the irony of him fully accepting the "either with us or against us" Logic that the parable is teaching, which he found so offensive he had to lie about it?
Most founders of modern science accepted God. These Internet Atheists know nothing
😂😂😂😂😂 I'm a believer too, but what you're saying is nonsense, most scientists are sure that there is no God. Show me an astronomer or scientist who publicly says that God exists. don't talk nonsense
90 percent of modern Scientists are atheists
@@fckCOOL You might want to keep those emojis to yourself, because you can not even properly understand a very simple sentence. "Most FOUNDERS of modern science" is what he said. The current day scientists are not the founders, smartass.
@@fckCOOL read what he said again
See ColdCase Christianity.
70%of the sciences such as physics, astronomy etc... Were all founded by Christians whom realized God has ordered our world and our minds and hence our minds CAN understand His order.
Isaac Newton said, Atheism is utterly idiotic and odious.
David I learned of you from Nabeel's book.Just started watching your videos and i'm a big fan.
Absolutely brilliant insights... you could wrap it in a little self-deprecating humility... Arrogance has been my constant companion over the decades as my loving and stunningly patient Heavenly Father waits on me to "humble thyself".
He didn't say, "pray for humility" He commands us indicating that this is volitional and we have already been given the ability to do this through our thelema (will). Keep up the good work for this takes ones like you with careful listening skills and a bright mind.
Want to imagine what someone like Sam would do if he was in charge of a nation?....
You don't need to imagine it,
Because Mao Zedong and Joseph Stalin already showed us.
They all have the same dad.
Are you seriously confusing atheims, disbelief in gods, with a totalitarian ideology such as communism? Pretty fucking dishonest, dont you think?
Could it be.........Satan?
Nah couldnt be.... or maybe....
Any one that tried to build a utopia quickly realized they still have to deal with human nature.
No the Demiurge Archon.
Sam Harris is a shining example of how easy it is to overestimate self proclaimed intellectuals. That he could so carelessly treat a source, just reveals the disregard he has for it. He obviously isn’t qualified to take the lead in the conversation.
I think the same often of Jordan Peterson. He is such a lot of things that are useful but nearly any time he discusses scripture be misconstrued as what is said or reverses around elements. Poor example recently I heard something where he was talking about Moses and the burning bush and he discussed the order of Moses hearing the voice seeing the fire and realizing it was on holy ground and he pretty much reversed it. And it wasn't just a casual reversal it was to make a point about our realization causing us to see Holiness as opposed to God's command changing our perception. He never let scripture say what it says he always has to abstract it until he can make it say what he would say.
It's like what the Bible says about those who profess to be wise turned out to be fools!
Just because others have a low regard for something doesn't mean that we all should.
And likewise, no matter how highly some people regard something ... we all should?
A person can be expert in one field and a bit of an absolute dunce in others. So?
So respect him for his qualifications and for some of his qualities, disrespect him where you don't think him worthy of respect-
-and once that's out of the way try to look at what he's saying with an open mind. Attack his points, but not him, no?
Damn. I've just been 'outed' ...@@pkeeper419
Yes, but even woke Neo Atheist preachers are clever compared to Christain preachers. What I disrespect are hypocrites with badly conflicting core values, so I disrespect religious fundies and conservatives as much as libby lefties. They drag us few decent people down. The moral majority of each side are the worst people on the planet.
Interesting video. Not really sure what classification of Atheist I am but I hope people realize there are plenty of us out there that genuinely don't care about people's religious beliefs, as long as they can treat other people reasonably and with some semblance of respect.
Geez I must have been half asleep because I need you to spell it out for me 😆 😆
Sam Harris admitted he will lie for what his subjective mind thinks is for the greater good, regardless of doing the wrong thing. That being said, he lies about christianity which means the following:
Sam Harris lies about Chrisitianity because he thinks it's better for people to not be Christians.
when I was in college, this was called "situational ethics"
good job, David
"The ends justify the means"
Welcome to modern America. Thanks, Militant Athiests.
You should get your money back.
Situational ethics in Christianity does not justify deceiving or lying (hiding Jews in basement from Nazis is not lying since they are not entitled to that information, thus you are not obligated to give it to them, no more than if a weirdo just comes up and asks you at knifepoint where he can hook up with your daughter and you tell him what he wants to hear to get away from him but not the truth).
It simply states that the circunstance can determine which bad action is the lesser one (like David eating consecrated bread when in hiding from Saul, or breaking the Sabbath to get your goat out of a well, as Jesus said "Sabbath was made for men, not men for Sabbath"). 7:22
All ethics are intrinsically situational. "Ethics" are the morally bankrupt man's 10 commandments.
What's wrong with situational ethics/morals?
@@tornay131 Sam Harris version is basically "the end justifies the means".
How dillusional is that guy. Sam Harris is a threat to our weak minded.
Yes... We have to equip the new generation with reasons
I copped something a little unusual some time back while watching Matt Dillahunty debate Sye Ten Bruggencate. Matt confused the term absolute solution with the term ultimate absolution of all things. Instead of saying there is no absolute solution he instead said there is no ultimate absolution. Strange error to make since ultimate absolution had never even been mentioned beforehand.
Ultimate absolution is the absolute solution!
Appreciate the video,thanks
I knew when Harris was "quoting" Luke something was amiss. Not just because I'd never heard anyone attribute those words to Christ but because of Harris's "delivery." He actually stuttered when he started the quote. I could hear in this voice, he knew what he was about to say was not true, but he was going to say it anyway. And you are completely right. To these people the ends justify the means, as long as it's for THEIR ends.
Keep in mind, without God, the sinner has no obligation to ever be truthful, that is part of Psalms and is constantly mentioned later on into the New Testament. There is nothing reliable in what they say.
thank you David.. i recently found all your work on you tube,. it has helped me let the holy spirit into my heart, and i have never felt more at peace.
well that is good, fruits of the spirit is a good personal goal to aim for, long as it is in personal humility to serve and not as the leader to rule.
"Budding narcissists" 😅
Thats rich coming from someone claiming they have a close and personal relationship with the creator of the universe.
In 2017, I died. While my consciousness persisted beyond that, once I was on the other side, your deity was nowhere to be found. I was taught a great deal about reincarnation and universal salvation, however, though the very concept of 'salvation' is completely unnecessary, as the very idea of a 'hell' is repugnant to Source, which we are part of.
You are a hundred percent correct. When this interview went public, I remember commenting somewhere that ironically religious people had known this side of Sam for a long time. Loads of people tried to come to his defense, but they simply do not know to what extent Sam has lied about and misrepresented authentic religious thought. They wanted him to be right, so they didn't care.
"but they simply do not know to what extent Sam has lied about and misrepresented authentic religious thought
That's ironic given the number of rival denominations in any given religion. Religious obviously dumbs people down, and it shows.
@@FactStorm no, no... This claim that I can't be bothered to differentiate between which denominations believe what while making blanket statements about religion dumbing people down does not fall under "intellectual honesty." One might say that dumb people are just attracted to belief in God, not that it makes anyone dumb. Sam would not tolerate the same blanketing if he held some nuanced position that the other new atheists denied. And I happen to agree with you that the multiplicity of denominations is a problem. It's largely because we have been told, by people like Sam, that the old dogmatic consolidation mechanisms are tyrannical and oppressive to progress in thought. This is itself based an a quasi-religious modern myth that lacks historical perspective and misunderstands dogma, all while propping up its own dogmatic parameters.
Anything else?
@FactStorm
You're a perfect example of what "blind follower" means.
@@FactStorm🎉🎉🎉correct. Plus, Sam was not at all dishonest. This parable Jesus spoke, is because he endorsed it. Ask most Christians, they advocate Ten Minas was about Jesus as King, and Christians as his ten servants.
Religious people claim everything, they cant even agree with one another. They are the oldest and most plentiful demographic of delusional people in human history@@CS.AtheistChannel.VoteBidenAOC
So sad that someone can be so openly immoral.
Donald Trump does it all the time, but deluded believers think he's great.
Man, Sam has a book on morality, what do you mean? Openly immoral?
@@peterferencik2667Hi there, May God bless you and your loved ones abundantly.
I have two things to say in reply to you.
First:
I don’t understand why you don’t understand what I said. In a country which is supposed to value free speech and a free press and DEMOCRACY, he openly said it was ok to suppress speech and spread lies in order to deceive the population in order to cheat and win an election which he admits they couldn’t win honestly.
That is terribly sad to even think that - but to say that it’s ok OPENLY in public and not feel any shame, and to promote lying and cheating and methods to overthrow democracy by spreading mass lies through all of the media and suppressing free speech through all of big tech…
Second:
In his debate with William Lane Craig, Sam Harris admitted as an atheist that from the atheistic viewpoint there are no objective morals - so I’m really not interested in hearing what he has to say in a book about morals.
@@peterferencik2667can't define morality when you believe everything is based on what society thinks. If society accepted things you consider evil, is it wrong?
@@philipbolin6776 Dafuq is you on about xD
How did I not connect the dots? I'll remember this the next time I think I'm So Smart.
Also, Merry Christmas.
Well done!
This man is so clever and wise. He read the lines between the lines and saw through what was actually being said. I aspire to be able to discern things this well.
Uh. The parable Jesus spoke was because Jesus was describing himself. This video has no discernment. 🎉
@@CS.AtheistChannel.VoteBidenAOC Brother didnt even watch the video
@@CS.AtheistChannel.VoteBidenAOC Jesus talking about himself as judge of the world at the end of time is very different from a prescription to his followers here and now.
Former atheist, here. You are correct, sir.
@@CS.AtheistChannel.VoteBidenAOCyou have evidence for evolution??
This was a great break down David. If he’s ok with lying and deceiving to achieve a political goal, why wouldn’t he be ok with using the same tactic to lead people down the ideological path he wants them to go down.
Because Kierkegaard was wrong, Hume was right, and I don't want to die in a fireball for orange man.
You give a pass to the liars, cheaters, and criminals who lie for Jesus and monetary gain. The church, all of them, are just in it for profit. They lie all the time claiming they know things they can't possibly know. They make claims, present them as facts and fleece anyone who will listen. It's true of all religions.
He would be even more ok with that, since politics is downstream from ideology.
@@jameseverett9037 Some ideologies are constructive, though. Some others are very very destructive. I think Sam is getting at the point that the average Joe demanding to express and have his ideology heard (without filter) can tear down the whole project of imperfect yet functioning liberal democracy. I'm with him, there.
@@tablab165 I'd like to understand that better. Are you saying some people should not be heard? And who get's to decide who should be heard and who should not?
LOL I've had "atheists" accuse me of *lying* when I told them about that clip.
Fantastic video!
I got really hardcore into Sam Harris and the other new atheists a few years ago. I still think they make some pretty good points, but I wish that back then I had found people making these arguments against him. There are a number of ways he has revealed himself to be a slimy authoritarian, even without your argument here, but this just makes it undeniable.
Just beware of the cult of reason. The French Revolution shows how dark this mindset can get without God's law. We are mind, body, and spirit, none of which should be neglected.
If you know his content well, then you can be the one to show and share those numerous authoritarian moments!
I saw some of him a while ago and his personality gave it away for me. You can tell he has himself on a pedestal.
You need God, you need someone to trust in, to give up the last thing you think is helping you survive, or get you what you would like in life. You need to be able to trust someone more than human, who sees all, is just, and sacrificial towards you even to giving his only son to die for you. So that you know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that your sacrifice is worth it, and is not done for nothing. We need Jesus...
He is the authoritarian, so he thinks he needs to stop everyone else from being authoritarian. It works with everything. Whatever people see as the greatest threat, is because they can be that depraved in their own soul, so they are so acutely aware of the danger of it. God showed me this about my selfishness. I was so afraid to lose anything, because I never gave, and assumed everyone else was the same way. I didn't have hope anyone would ever give to me or help me in my time of need, because I never helped anyone else. However, when I decided to trust God against everything I felt inside me, and started giving, my whole life changed, and could not be happier and more grateful for my new life. If Sam could have some faith in God. he could let go of his need to control, and literally have a more amazing life, a life like he never imagined. You can't do it it without God though,
a different question altogether. I am from India, and, I have saw over 1/2 dozen video saying that T is an "existential threat", an "end to democracy", but when pressed to support that with evidence based on his action or policy, they follow that comment up with a "Its not worth talking with you", "Just look it up yourself", "I am not going to waste my time with you", "I got to go". I can understand some in very high places are bribed to say the things they say, but what gets to individuals like this Sam Harris?
His kind of reasoning can justify anything. But then in his world of moral relativism, and with no objective moral grounding, this is exactly what you can come to expect.
Thank you brother David, for yet another quality video. Greetings in the name of Christ Jesus, from 1/2 way across the world.
Wow, brother, God bless you! I am from southeast Asia and also follow Christ! Out of curiosity, can I ask for your story? Like did you and your family convert from Hinduism or anything? My grandfather and father converted from Taoism. I am asking because I would like to be able to witness more effectively to my Indian brothers and sisters that I know!
@@kazumakiryu157 , India is a very diverse country, and most automatically think, Hinduism, and its 80% of the poplulation. But I came from a Roman Catholic background, and I got saved while living in the Middle East of all the places. God certainly has His way of bringing in His sheep to His fold.
My wife and myself followed Christ. Unfortunately I wish I could say that the rest of my extended members did.
@@Hello-bn2yc thank you for sharing your story, brother. And it is very funny that you got saved in Middle East!! I would think you would become a Muslim if you went to middle east. And don't give up hope for your extended family members! My grandmother has not yet been saved, but we are praying. And... GOOD NEWS she recently removed her praying altar(she prays to the Taoist moon god) and started going to church after decades of rejecting Christ! Don't give up hope. Just pray and trust in the Lord. I'll also pray that you extended family members come to Christ, if you want. God bless, brother!
@@kazumakiryu157 thank you brother...Our God is sovereignly in control and I leave it to Him, having shared with them the Gospel many many times...
It would be good to hear David talk more about the ramifications of the New atheists philosophy on western culture.
It;s a fair point. But not for nothing, we can point out every Christian claim that Jesus appears in Tanakh and it would prove Christians equally on shaky ground. So I'm not sure misrepresenting or misinterpreting scripture actually matters all that much in this case. Considering Jesus is OBJECTIVELY nowhere in Tanakh, not in Torah, not in Prophets, Kings, Judges.... not in Daniel which wasn't written until the 2nd century BCE like 300 years after it was supposed to have been written.
I mean come on..... "born of a young woman", or "almah", not "bethula". And I understand the word used in Greek can mean both. But that doesn't mean it was meant to say "virgin". It's far more likely this "virgin" birth narrative, which only first shows up in Matthew, which was around 80 CE, the 2nd of the gospels written, likely in "pagan" lands. And "pagan" ideas, like being born of a god, like Aufustus, like Alexander, were juxtaposed onto the Jesus narrative. We also don't have a physical resurrection in Mark, the earliest gospel, which suggests Jesus was not yet deified at this point. Most of the "only son" nonsense is in John, which is by far the later, and most fictional of all gospels. If John is correct than the synoptic texts an't be and vice versa.
We can look at Luke and Acts, and CLEARLY see he sourced his material from Josephus and likely had never ever been in the land of Judah. There's no other explanation for his phrasing which is only unique to Josephus. Nor is it likely that someone familiar with Judea, would ever place the Tomb of the Patriarchs in Shechem, when it is so clearly in Hebron, like 100 km away.
And Dr. Dennis McDonalds work on the Homeric influence on the gospels, in the way of memesis, is fairly groundbreaking. Of course he isn't alone in this, the last 20 years is full now more widely accepted theories that the gospels take directly from Homeric epics, the Odyssey and Iliad, and Virgil's Aeneid. The sea of Galilee scene in Mark is n awful lot like the shipwreck scene in the Odyssey, with the pigs and a hermit in both. Except Jesus appears to one up Odysseus and prevents the shipwreck. But this is how mythology was written at the time. It was sort of a battle of the myth makers. Similar to how Bard's would compete in Europe. The authors of one people would use the framework of myths popular throughout the region, and then remake them , with their hero of choice. In the case of much of the NT, that is Jesus.
I mean it's literally OUR father, not HIS father. And when he does say "his father" he says whoesoever believes in my father is my brother or sister.... meaning sibling, meaning they share a father.
Plus its so unlikely any 1st century Judean would ever confuse messiah for "only son of god" or "god in the flesh", these are heretical and pagan concepts in 1st century Judaism. I don't think Jesus himself would have been able to accept his own preachings lol.
"I destroyed democracy to save democracy" ~ Harris, in some parallel universe not too far from our own.
"It's not about left or right wing." Of course not... it's about the Uniparty/Government Bureaucracy maintaining power.
He's too weak a "man" to hope to be remotely similar to Senator Armstrong, even with this paraphrased quote.
I got the joke though. :)
@@asunnynight9592 he is misquoting Jesus.
@@asunnynight9592 you do realize that the New testament that's what Christianity is and Christianity's behavior in modern times, right?
The Old testament is there for our learning, not as direct instruction.
@@korvaamiko66 if you really look at the behavior of the leadership of both political parties, they're both allies with the federal bureaucracy and reject anyone in either party who wants reform, who would fix the actual problems we have in government.
That's why Donald Trump was attacked, and that's why so many of the actually American Republicans who want to fix problems are treated like monsters who will eat children and worse.
Because a threat to what they call "our democracy" is actually a threat to the uni party / Federal bureaucracy / political parties.
Please share this with all Christians. Too many are asleep thinking they just want to live their quiet lives while there is a spiritual war going on everywhere around them.
Christians are called to mind their own business and live quietly. See 1 Thessalonians 4:11
@@CJ-lr4uq called to put on the armor of riteousness, pick up the sheild of faith and take up the sword of truth. There is also a scripture of when it is time to buy a sword. You are not called to sit quietly all the time. I think that any time one picks one scripture and says that means something vs looking into all scripture is a way of manipulation, this is what the devil loves to do.
@@jefferynordgulen4436 sounds like you're the one manipulating scripture
Show me the spiritual war.
@@tornay131yeah I wanne be doom slayer but using my sould I am too small to actually do anything physical
The equivalent of a freshman writing an essay and just CTRL+F 'ing for a keyword in a published study, copying and pasting the sentence it appears in, then providing rationale based on the line after its pasted into the draft essay. Freshman level research.
In Luke 19. What is the parable saying? I read the whole parable, and it seems that this king is God...meaning that indeed, the parable is saying that Jesus/God wants his enemies killed in front of him. No?
Stop embarrassing yourself. In the parable, the judgment takes place when the king returns. And according to Jesus, this will be carried out by angels. So how in the name of common sense can this be used to show that Christians are commanded to kill people? And if an atheist doesn't believe that the king is ever going to return, how can this passage be a concern at all? 🙄