Disgusting and Creepy Victorian Fashion Trends
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"Oh my God. That dress is SOOOO pigmented!"
"I KNOW. I'm literally dying."
😂
"So... obviously that's not the best idea they ever had..."
😂😂
I'd have been in trouble. I love the color.
😂😂😂😂😂
The beetle wings as clothing decorations, are basically organic sequins.
Fionna McCormick Hmmm yea
Not vegan, but environmentally friendly?
stephany Arbelaez not for the beetle population no lol
@@gio-ve7vn hey, they're technically reusable and I think they could be collected from bed beetles.
@@WhiffleWaffles lol I suppose they are biodegradable xD
After thinking about it, the beetles aren’t really any different than using feathers or leather or any other animal products on clothing.
Yep, how about pearls and shells...carved bone?
Animals shouldn't be exploited.
Aleksandra Lempart The animals are dead. It is wise to use those resources rather than just destroying them. Especially if using the animal remains prevents the manufacture of a replacement.
Wouldn't be dead if they weren't killed
@@aleksandralempart8305 You're not convincing anybody to stop using/eating animals by commenting on a random TH-cam video and trying to sound morally superior.
*Goes back in time*
Sends a green dress to my arch nemesis's ancestor
*laughs as I powder my face in toxic powder*
Lol, it reminds me of Medea using a poisoned gown as a "gift" to kill her rival.
Rofl!
Wireless Wizard dude didn’t she spread that acidic blood all over the inside of her husbands shirt and had him wear it?
Oh, that reminds me of a story I heard. When Queen Elizabeth the 1st was ruling, some terrorists (I think) sent her a gown to wear, however one of her maids secretly put it on first. But it turns out, the gown was poisoned, and the poor maid died. But at least Liz didn't, I guess.
Lead foundation yeeet
"Who would put bugs on your clothing?"
*Is wearing a top with a spider web pattern* 😂
A spider ain't a bug tho. Completely different things
@@sauleiwanderapfelstrudel Not an insect you mean. Bugs can be any creepy crawlies and aren't a proper scientific designation
@@sauleiwanderapfelstrudel aaand?
Arachnid.
A spider is an arachnid, but eh, I like your comment. Feel free to ignore the correction as spiders can be referred to as bugs as well, since bugs just means creepy crawlies. At least you didn't say insects, cause then the correction would be necessary. lol I like spiders myself, so I love anything with web patterns or little spider prints.
"Dress to kill...
Yourself."
I appreciate that joke.
I laughed
What a goddamned mood™️
J .S actually Hamlet was
J .S well, I mean, it’s not really disgusting/ weird trend, it’s more cool :D
It was very well done
"Oh, don't mind me. I'm only enjoying some tea in my arsenic green dress, embroidered with beetle shells--the colors match the bird in my hat. Oh, and have you seen my dead husband's hair bracelet? It's absolutely stunning!"
Underrated
^^ underrated 😔👏👏
Tea with rotten milk that you put borax in to stop the bad taste, but didn’t take out the tuberculosis.
Extremely underrated
Ikr
Insects are used in lots of red makeup and food coloring today.
Katherine Margeson I’m never wearing red lipstick again
@@mjlvnv You can find vegan makeup brands now.
Eww)
Melissa Jongepier look out for shellac, that’s crushed beetles (the poor dears), and avoid all animal products including what’s tested on them while at it! Unspeakably horrific!
girl wonder not eww, poor dears, but yes, it’s horrible! Animal products including testing thereon is so much worse too!
"the children just died like flies" girl you were just talking about beetles you missed an opportunity there.
Are you implying that they had their childrens corpses sewn to dresses? Fingernail beads?
Well, that took a dark turn.
@@lilly6357 not fingernail beads. Hair jewelry.
@@lilly6357 no but they embalmed them and put them in display cases or posed them for death photos, if they could afford it. (Their children that died.)
@@AliciaSemph Horrifying- Tell me more.
Damn I love green, if I lived back then I’d be hella dead lol
That is a GORGEOUS shade of green...I'm really glad we have synthetic dyes now. :P
Fortunately my favourite colour is red, so I'd just be dressing "like a Jezebel" but not lethally. Heh.
Robin Chesterfield vermillion, a type of red contained mercury, all vibrant colors were lethal
same
Name checks out lmao
Same here
“Hair jewelry!”
Me : oh right! Like hair clips! With crystals or beads dropping like some sort of webs! Very sparkly hair tie-
“Your love one’s hair... made into jewelry”
Me : wait a minute
I have a ring from my great aunt that she made from her girlfriend's hair.
*wait a damn minute*
For some reason i kinda dont mind that... its like keeping someones ashes i guess.
Tameson O'Brien wow , but how were you born then
@@lian7092 I get that you are being intentionally obtuse but my great aunt having a ring has nothing to do with the circumstances of my birth and even if it did she died after i was born so the potential of something occurring after my birth is still there. It just so happened that the ring was made about 1925 or so, but whatever, you got your irrelevant dig. Have a great life.
"they made jewelry out of people's hair"
Mary Shelley: hold my husband's calcified heart
😂😂😂
Pardon me-
WHAT.
@@tudirkulosis After her husband died she got his heart calcified and always carried it with her. Kinda romantic, kinda creepy but I've also read she lost her virginity on her mother's grave so it's not that surprising. Besides, both Mary and her husband Percy were brilliant authors and she basically invented science fiction!
@@kalinaw.531 Wow, that's actually really interesting! Thank you!
Mary Shelley was peak goth. She carried her husband's calcified heart around, she lost her virginity on her mother's grave and she invented science fiction, which isn't goth but its pretty cool.
So can wa say they had a "mourning routine"? *winkwink* *nudgenudge*
It's been nine months without comments, congratulations on your baby.
End Creeper that’s funny
*stabstab*
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@@QueerAndHunger .
Victorian era was the gothest era
Regency England was more goth. It's when Gothic novels were in style. When Frankenstein was written.
@@lestranged regency era may have birthed the gothic genre, but victorians established it. Does regency era has the same level of drama?? Pizzazz??? I think the fuck not
It really was. Steampunk too. Both trends really derive from the medical practices and accoutrements, fashion, industrial machinery etc. of that era.
@@lestranged I think you just highlighted the difference between true Gothic (original meaning/reference) and "goth" as a 1970s/80s fashion, makeup and lifestyle trend.
The darkness from Victorian and edwardian England let the anti-trade of punk and goth (and emo) grow, we die in the light so we needed a dark place to spread out roots and the Victorian/edwardian periods were the ideal grounds
Cool, informative video! I own a piece of hair jewelry from my grandma's great-grandpa. Kind of creepy, kind of cool. The hair is arranged in a flower pattern in a necklace locket with a photo of him on the back.
Lindie Botes hey, I know you! But that’s great, and I see your point but it’s not creepy at all, unlike fur (:
I really think that is cool! Especially since it belonged to an actual family member. I would definitely cherish it!
My mother still has a plaited piece of jewelry made from my great grandmother's hair. My great grandmother died in 1917 or early 1918, in Germany. When I was a kid, I assumed it was a choker necklace. Later my mom corrected me. It's actually a watch fob. I've never seen anyone wear it. It's in a red leather box that looks like a Cartier box, amid my mom's jewelry.
@@rehnigstan that is so so interesting and special. So cool!
Wow
I'm a professional cook, and just recently I've developed and interest in studying period foods, and when you mentioned that everything from the victorian period was kind of grotesque I almost screamed, because I always describe their foods as pure decorated trash, seriously, I've recreated dozens of recipes and all of them tasted like wet socks or regret, most of them were intended to be served to the higher class as well, ironically the ones that tasted less bad were the "poor" ones, apparently anything that had taste was considered poor in victorian times. A truly grotesque period in almost every way.
I’m a lay cook and I concur! Thought I was just doing it wrong this whole time. Lol
Examples? That is a great video idea
"Tastes like wet socks or regret" is a wonderful phrase. Thank you.
Have you tried cooking from someplace NOT famous for crappy food, like Northern Italy or France?
Don’t forget that cheap international shipping has brought the prices of spices and such right down, so we’re all probably used to complexities of flavour that would have been rare back in those days. A basic can of Coca Cola likely contains flavourings that a middle class Victorian cook might only have dreamed of.
Nope. Those beetles were and are not affected. They only live for a short time and then die and that's when they Harvest the beetles shells
Ooh that sort of makes sense. I'll have to look into it. I also feel like any bug breeds quickly, but I ain't so sure about beetles.
Oh, I thought they just dropped the colorful wings (like after mating or something) and the ground is like all covered in heaps of 'em, so people started collecting them (was it the Egyptians?) and then the Victorians started importing the stuff as well.
Still not right to exploit them.
Aleksandra Lempart you’re funny
@@JustSaralius Thailand, Egypt and Japan appear to be common sources for these types of bettles
I find it that much funnier whenever a non-native speaker of English manages to pull off some humor in my language or even a meme. I love it and I'm jealous of their ability to grasp another language to that extent.
Not hard
My language? B'scuse me? [Jk]
And most non-native English speakers thinks it's weird that many native English speakers don't know any other languages. I get that you can get by just with English, but still. It's just strange to me 😂
I think it's definitely hard for some! I'm always impressed too!
@@AutumnSun140 I've been told by my EL professor that most of his students who learn English as their L2 or L3 or whatever usually have better English grammar then native English epeakers.
Angela Clayton did some embroidery with beetle wings in one of her videos, and she talks about how because the beetles have relatively short life spans, it's not that difficult to ethically source them (because people got concerned) (And by ethically sourced, I mean people will raise them up, and let them live out their life spans and collect the wings after they've naturally passed.) And I don't know what it was like to try and gather them in the Victorian Era, but would make most sense to me that they farmed them the same way. It takes more to create most projects than would be cost effective to catch out of the wild (especially whole, unbroken wings), and farming them would ensure access to the young to renew the cycle- and in that way, I imagine that besides the ones that get wild caught to start a captive population, for the most part the population wouldn't suffer for it.
The dresses were actually oretty stunning with them. Not too sure how I' d feel about actually wearing them. The bird hats are out.
I read that the beetles are used in some food process anyway, and the wings are just a byproduct. I forgot which country which has that industry.
@@KKIcons Actually crushed beetles are used as red pigment for eyeshadows, lipsticks and blushes in the makeup industry. The red dye is called carmine and derives from female cochineal beetles, that release this pigment after being crushed.
I have a lock of my fiancé s hair. He died when I was 19. 41 now, still have it in a silver locket and it's precious to me.
That’s is the sweetest thing. I am sorry you lost him.
I am sorry for your loss :(
My grandmother told me that in the old days women used to drop like flies in childbirth. It was really common to hear that someone you knew died in childbirth. She said it was like: "Do you remember the blah blah girl you went to church school with? She died in childbirth!". "Oh that's a shame! Remember how our cousin blah blah died in childbirth a few years ago too?". So basically, it was a pretty common occurrence to die in childbirth, nowadays it's almost impossible to die in childbirth so to us it sounds absolutely horrific. I've read that until 20th century modern medicine up to 10% of women died in childbirth. They don't really cover this important topic in period dramas and movies. Also, a lot of women were absolutely terrified of giving birth. Leo Tolstoy mentioned it in the "War and Peace" that the main protagonist's wife was really scared of giving birth.
Here's a good site for maternal mortality:
www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/maternal-mortality
In the developed world, the US (surprisingly) has the highest rate, with black American mothers dying at 3 times the rate of that for non-black American mothers.
(I'm in Canada - must look-up our stats...)
Stellar Luminocity I’ve heard party of the reason for women dying so often during child birth, was doctors not realizing or believing it was important to wash their hands before helping a woman give birth and I’m sure that caused all kinds of infections. As much as I love history and wouldn’t mind visiting the past for a day, I’m verrrry thankful I’m alive in this era!
European women died from infection, bleeding mostly from tearing during child birth.
Europeans didnt know to massage the womens are between her vaginal opening and anus with oil so women tore.asians, middle easterners and africans knew this and that's why their childbirth death rates where almost non existent.
@Ahava This is not true. There is historical evidence of high maternal mortality in all those places as well as studies that show that until very recently maternal mortality was very high in Asia, Africa and the Middle East. To use the words of a famous Han official's wife: "In women’s central affair of childbirth, ten die and one survives." More recently, in 1900 Sri Lanka maternal mortality ratio was over 1700 per 100000 live births while in 1933 Malaysia it was over 1000 per 100000 live births (both are very high). Maternal mortality remains a serious issue in sub Saharan Africa and some Asian countries to this day. Also maternal mortality was not usually caused by external tears but by obstructed labor, preeclampsia, eclampsia, tears of the uterus, malaria, internal organ infections, blood clots etc
@@ondine217 well said
Technically, this counts as a fashion trend; Victorian-era women had their own diet pill: tapeworm eggs!
OcarinaSapph1r3 -24 people still do that
Abigail’s Corner
Seriously?! It’s *still* being done?!
Abigail’s Corner 😱
@@OcarinaSapphr- Yep, still happening. Pageant moms feed their daughters it and stuff, it's disgusting.
OcarinaSapph1r3 -24 ya, people still do that. There’s an episode of “untold stories of the ER” and a mom wanted her daughter to be skinnier, so she gave her a tapeworm pill
I think the weirdest is definitely having your photo taken with your posed recently deceased relative.
Not a fashion thing but... dude.
Hannah Radenkova but back then usually that was the only photo that the family could afford to have of the deceased person so knowing that they wouldn't be around any longer it was a way of remembering them.
@@cursedGalataea that's true, most of those posed photos are of people who are alive
Momento Mori.
It was to honor them and kept their memories alive.
@@cursedGalataea Not a myth at all. I remember my grandparents doing that (in Europe) and may still have the photos somewhere. It was done to commemorate a meaningful event, a sort of a milestone that's not less significant than, say, a wedding - and because most people didn't own cameras, only special occasions merited inviting a photographer (or asking a friend of a friend to take pics)
"I need my gown to be red...not grey"
"Darling, stop being dramatic; stab yourself"
"How ingenious mother"
You can use beetles for that
HAHAHAHA
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Imagine in 200 years for now when people say things like- "They actually made tattoos out of INK."
It's crazy to think that things that are the norm now will be frowned upon in the future.
Or imagine an actress in 200 years
"Yeah I had to wear a bra for the role and I literally COULDN'T breathe. Like it almost broke all my ribs!"
@@frith.calluna "How 22th Century Men Taught Us to Hate Brassieres"
Yeah, in the future they will subliminate tattoos on and it will be quick and painless and last forever and be bright and beautiful.
@@frith.callunabras are evil
Something that's not Victorian, but still very funny:
"Hey, Jimmy had some tomatoes and now he's dead!"
"Could it be because that plate contains mercury?"
"Nah, I'm sure it's the tomato"
- How people came to think that tomatoes are poisonous at some point. Until they realized that mercury plates may look fancy but aren't necessarily the best choice health-wise
It’s because it was one of the first foods that we ate that was naturally acidic and did a science thing to the plate to expose the bad chemical to the body
Graup Europeans were worried by the bright color, like poisonous berries, and it's a member of the deadly nightshade family. They used tomatoes as house decorations for a long time
i also heard it was with pewter plates too :-)
Actually, it had more to do with the fact that tomatoes are in the nightshade family. Which means that the plant can and does have a toxic effect especially when the fruit is still green. The same thing happened with potatoes when they were first brought over. People didn't know what to do with them so they cooked and ate the whole plant including the green vines and leaves which in turn made them very very sick. It took years of poor people experimenting with both before tomatoes and potatoes was re-introduced as regular food.
Tomatoes are Solanaceae, the same plant family as nightshade. Various nightshade have red berries that look much like tomatoes, it was very reasonable to assume tomatoes were poisonous, and whatever tomatoes they would have had then would not have been much like the big juicy fruits we have developed since.
Also men used to wear their beloveds' braided hair as watch chains.
@Maleficent :-)
Ew
And it didn't slowly break off?
@@frost.bytten2023 Hair isn't too gross if its dry, and stuff (but that's just me)
Why did I find this cute??
Suddenly, the description of Augusta Longbottom's stuffed vulture hat makes more sense 😂
And her GREEN dress
Omg you’re right
Hair jewelry is still a thing with equestrians! You cut a piece of your horses tail off and either send it to some company or you can buy kits to make it yourself. Most people do it also when their horse passes away but its sometimes done when the horse is still alive. I find it interesting how weird trends like this stick for such long periods of time.
That’s very interesting, I didn’t know that!
Oh wow! Does it at all look like the Victorian kind? It is so intricate!
Also recently saw a woman in the US who collects animal fluff (fallout) and makes it into purses and even scarves for families who recently lost their favourite pet. Sweet sentiment I think ❤️
Erin McMilllan, Here are some examples of contemporary horse hair jewelry :-) : www.etsy.com/listing/268991780/custom-braided-horse-hair-bracelet?ref=related-2
horse girls are too intense lol
I heard that death jewellery (hair, bone, ash, etc) was extremely popular in the past and actually went out of fashion because WW1 and WW2 was happening which meant a lot of families didn't have the remains of their loved ones. So it actually was a trend not that long ago. It's making an appearance back into modern fashion now. Often fashion accessories and iconic themes seem to be recycled throughout time.
So beautiful.
Jiggly Puff yea kinda like the ash jewelry we have now
Death jewellery is really beautiful today. Especially the glass beads that incorporate ash into the design.
We lost my stepfather in May this year. We only just got it after some tedious ordering process but my mother bought a thumbprint gold necklace. They kept the pattern of the thumbprint of your loved ones forever, so you can order it no matter how long.
My mother wanted her wedding ring to be banded with it but unfortunately they didn't do that. But she wears it around her necklace on a sturdy thick gold chain.
I guess you could say these fashion strands were....
*TO DIE FOR*
SpookyBread some quite possibly lived and died by their fashion
so underrated comment
Lmaoo
Lol
When she said hair jewellery i tought she ment elephant hair rings.....
"Why would you put beetles on your clothing, that sounds gross."
The irony of saying that while wearing red lipstick
I didn't know this until you pointed it out.
Could be a vegan lipstick
SapphireFox13 oh what's the fun in that. T
Heh. Vastly underrated comment.
@@sapphirecharm01 do vegans consider bugs as animals?
you should talk about victorian post-mortem photography and the mummy unwrapping parties
I was always very creeped out and fascinated by post mortem photography since I watched this:
th-cam.com/video/E8DxI8Pn1Uw/w-d-xo.html
Enjoy! :D
the WHAT
Ms. Alexandria E. I SAW THE NOTIFICATION FOR THIS AND I STARTED LAUGHING REALLY HARD IN MATH CLASS DJNFRRJNF
I was hopping she would not be talking about that, since we've been seing them every week on feeds and in so many videos about the era in the last two years.
Backintime Alwyn yeah but i figured she'd have interesting and funny commentary on it
in the middle of the 19th century romanticism, industrial revolution and realism led to a fascination of death and having the most influential person in the world mourning her husband helped to go on that way
Reasons why stuff from the Victorian era was fecking weird:
-Upward mobility.
-The industrial revolution.
-The birth of consumerism.
Yeah, there was a LOT of that. They were just inventing a lot of industrial processes and also mass media, and putting it together in different ways to see what worked.
That intro. 👌 Also the scene with Snape stumbling around in Neville's grandmother's dress and hat with an entire stuffed bird perched on top makes 100% more sense.
I love that they were like “oh so these people worked in the arsenic factory and died” “oh this kid licks the wall and dies” definitely coincidence
I've read into it and they knew that certain forms of it were poisonous (was used as rat poison) and even ran studies into it when they noticed the pattern of deaths, but it took a while to get it banned because people were so enamoured with the colour, and in general the symptoms took enough time to show up and looked a lot like other things, that people didn't want to give it up. Eventually what did it was the increase in gas lighting in homes - that actually released the arsenic more rapidly and lead to enough fatalities that they were able to get people to listen and stop using those items. Also, another synthetic green dye was created which had less issues with fading and so people swapped over to that one.
Humans are really good at saying “that’s a coincidence!” until the proof is SO convincing that the next generation kind of goes “huh... maybe?”
And then by the next generation the truth is “obvious,” and yet that same generation will think other things are “just coincidences” and anyone who ascribes causation are idiotic... and the cycle continues. Sometimes going backward and denying true things that generations before knew you be true (like the idea that there was a “blood bag” in women would be laughed at by ancient Egyptians who knew the score and even did surgery with anesthesia... but all that was lost because... humans).
Humans are fun.
@@mrs.c1755 Just thinking about what medicine would be like now if we hadn't lost that knowledge, damn.
Epidemiology was a very important Victorian invention. Just looking at the numbers, with some basic statistical techniques, until you can say “Drinking from this damn water pump is KILLING PEOPLE. Stop doing it!” It can save more lives than medicine.
We recently visited a lighthouse that was turned into a museum, and over the mantlepiece in the dining room they had framed "hair art". It was so bizarre to see this huge art piece that was made of human hair and dead butterflies.
“Ooh that’s a pretty GREEN” “I’ll put the children in it and have them match the wallpaper” 😳💀👻
Your profile is a pretty green
They even coloured Candy with it 😳
that's actually what they did lmao
@@shuepsx652 how awful 😞
It'd be coloring some of their toys too, along with classic white lead paint. And Scheel's Green was indeed used as a pigment for fancy desserts and candies. Ask A Mortician did a wonderful video all about arsenic green pigments.
"The Arsenic Century: How Victorian Britain Was Poisoned at Home, Work, and Play
" by James C. Whorton is an interesting read.
I'd have definitely died from arsenic poisoning if I was a wealthy Victorian, green is my favourite colour. xD
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Same.
I'm just trying to think of the first person having the idea of sewing a bunch of dead bugs all over a dress. I mean, yes they were beautiful, I'm just thinking of actually sewing them in place and every time I try to picture doing it myself I totally shudder.
I guess they would have looked at them like they were sequins. Plus I think people were less squeamish back then!!
yeah, sequining stuff is such a pain :'0
To be fair, it was only the wings and not the whole bug. The beetle dies shortly after mating and since the wing is basically the shell...
It sounds like a fairytale idea: wear birds as hats and sew bugs on a dress. Maybe they were motivated by romantic images back then. Modern people would think "serial killer" instead of "fairy princess".
Angela Clayton made a whole video doing just that. It's a very tedious task!
I did some reading about the arsenic dyes a while back. Apparently, there are sample books in some libraries or collections which have to be stored in sealed cases these days because they (rightly) count as legally controlled poisonous objects.
There were stories about women going to balls in fancy green dresses and then dropping dead painfully the morning after. BUT I couldn’t find any confirmed examples from the period. I think some doctors were so desperate to convince people that this was a really dumb idea that they exaggerated the speed of the effect a little. “Died over a period of months or years as her lungs were painfully destroyed” should have been bad enough, you’d think.
They believed that upon the Resurrection, people would collect all of their body parts -- including their hair. The reason they would wear hair jewelry was so that on Judgement Day, the person who had given the hair sample would meet the person wearing the jewelry. That way, they could spend eternity together.
No. It was just something that was an ancient tradition. The exchange of locks of hair was very, very old.
@Sabrina Owens I was thinking the same thing... like, can I have a primary source please?
Wether its true or not thats really cute
😬
Isn't Judgement Day a relatively recent and American thing?
Many people still wear bugs to this day. Carmine is made from crushed bugs, and it's a common ingredient in cosmetics.
Or cochneal which is commonly in red food coloring.
And in food the red coloring is from bugs
And confectioners' glaze or shellac to make candies shiny.
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People who made mourning clothes in the Victorian era made a killing (sorry couldn't resist). It was considered to be unlucky to keep mourning clothes in the house after the period of mourning was over. So every time someone died you had to buy new ones. Also, mourning dresses were typically crepe because you had to wear specifically matte black (nothing shiny/reflective).
Interesting!
Before photographs, there was this different way of taking pictures that was a lot more expensive, so family members only took pictures of a person *after* they died, and they would send the pictures to external members. Kinda like Christmas cards!
The reason things from this era are so macabre is because the queen was in self imposed perpetual mourning for her husband. She made it "trendy."
The decline of migratory birds as a result of being hunted for use in women's hats is actually why it is illegal now in America to pick up certain types of bird feathers from the ground! It started as the Weeks-McLean Act of 1913 and was replaced by what is currently in action, the Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918. (Of course, the law is more complex than just picking up bird feathers from the ground, but that is how you'll hear it commonly referred to.)
Emily Carline
The reason it’s illegal to collect even feathers is to stop people from killing the birds and selling individual feathers.
You had me with this title so hard.... then the spider shirt, yea. I'm settling in with a cup of tea for this one!
i loved the video
just one tiny thing: THE Victorian era
Same
Are you telling me Scarlet O’Hara’s window drape dress was killing her?
😂
@@zoehannah6278 you're first name and last name are me and my twins names lol
Ziggler Norris Scarlet only wore it long enough to marry her sister’s man (Frank Kennedy) and promptly bought a new wardrobe.
That was a killer dress. I mean, it was an amazing dress. Darn it.
🤷 people have tattoos with a dead persons ashes in the ink. I think they would have been horrified by the idea 😆😉
Wait really?!??
Omg thats so-
RAD
Are we the meme children? Is there a meme society? Give us lore!
There's a meme family, and her sister; she's the meme aunt.
Read Selfish Gene, chapter 11.
Wanted to like but had to keep the like amount at 420
666 😎😎
@kshiftkometh someone needs to write a paper on why, because o this, we inherently expect boys to be less mature than girls 🤯
birds on their hats? Neville's grandma, anyone? :D
I am constantly amazed how Victorian HP world is. But Augusta Longbottom, yes. She probably could have her hat since she was a maiden, wizards live so long.
THANK YOU! I knew there was a witch with a bird hat in my mind as soon as I watched the video, but I couldn't tell where I knew that witch from. So thanks for reminding me! Of course it was Neville's grandma! :D
Big up Augusta
keczupnanosie bruh. I was just thinking that. When I saw those hats I thought back to the third Harry Potter where the boggart looking like Snape had Neville’s grandma’s clothes on.
Oh it definitely makes sense! But this would mean at some point fashion was similar in the muggle and wizarding worlds :)
"dude, your hat looks super fly today"
The famous Worth Peacock Gown used lots of beetle wings and it was spectacular.
Someone was about to recreate it on YT, but I think someone complained that it represented colonialism in some way and there was a controversy about it. I was sorry to hear that. It would have been beautiful, and also given some craftspeople some work (who were going to recreate the beaded decoration on the fabric.)
I had a beautiful mourning bracelet and pendant made of my father's hair after he died. Unfortunately my sister (not my father's daughter) borrowed them from our mother to show a friend and sadly she has never given them back. It really breaks my heart, but the pieces are beautiful and I recommend everyone who loses a loved one, especially a parent or partner, to have a piece made. They are not only decorative but functional and fantastic reminders of your lost loved ones that can be carried with you anywhere and at all times.
Awe, I hope your sister gives them back.
That's sucks and I hope you get it back and I hope she's not holding them hostage. ☹
Hopefully they are given back soon
I would literally kick their door off (the friend's) if a bracelet of my loved one wasn't given back to me 😂
Have you contacted/confronted her about it? That's sad.
I grew up on a Victorian house, it was beautiful. I notice they era is death and occult obsessed and I think that reflects in the fashion and decor bit then somethings like poison for coloring I don't know where that came from lmao. Love your videos !
Instinctively Chelsea If you're speaking about the US, the Civil War was during that time period(some some weird reason the US acts as if they are two separate time periods even though they were happening at once) it was the most bloody war to date on US soil and we know that (again in the US) that there was a direct connection to the rise of spiritualism and the occult to post war "recovery".
PowerToolsofJustice that explains why all victorian houses in the US are haunted but not in europe 😂
@@awaywiththetheories1833 I suppose in a way we've always been death obsessed. I didn't really think the thought totally through it was just a rambling and it made me miss my old house but yes your totally right.
The UK has much more typical Victorian houses.
AwayWithThe Theories i know? i just talked about haunted houses. Also Europe is a continent so a civil war is kinda weird since it would include WW 1 & 2
"They just had such grotesque things and I'm not sure why?"
That made me laugh hard for some reason, it was just so genuine.
I once saw a piece of mourning jewelry in a museum where they had made like a cameo necklace using the hair. Like a tiny portrait using hair instead of painting the strokes. It was incredible.
“Hair jewelry” oh so like gold strands and jewels and stuff in women’s hair?
“Who would want to wear a bracelet made of hair” OH yikes
I can understand, you might want to keep something of a loved one even after they're gone.
It took me too long to realize you're "Meme Mom" and not "Meemaw". which is what people call their grandmothers where I grew up.
Peter K just realizing that now... 😂
Peter K awww my grandma was a “Memaw”. I’m from the south so it’s pretty common down here. Dang now I really miss her
Same. Thought it was Meemaw until I saw your comment just now. Thank you for noting it.
Lol Diary of a Wimpy Kid
Peter K Mememaw wouldn't be too bad of a nickname I would think... it rolls of the tongue nicely but that might just be because my grandma is Memaw and I'm used to saying that word. Also though so far all the videos I've seen from this gal's channel have been old timey stuff so my brain has associated her with "grandma times" (anything 50s and earlier) so.. Me(me)maw..! LOL
They're called "Momento Mori".
❤💀💍
Memento mori
In latin it means "Remember that you will die"
just predicted unus annus
A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS?!
AKA The Weeknd’s radio ;)
That somehow reminds me of the time I went to a fashion exhibit in London and there was a hat wrapped in plastic bc it was so toxic even after a really long time
Oh, this is interesting. Our biology teacher once taught us, that the toxic stuff in green paint used to be lead, but according to Wikipedia, it just sometimes had miniscule amounts of a lead derivative and either he mixed something up, or there were small amounts of lead in other green paints, which were toxic due to that too.
But! I found out that indeed white paint used to be made entirely of a lead salt, which made that paint extremely toxic.
And another "fun" fact he told us, which is probably true for any paints with lead in them, is that lead tastes sweet and back when the paint was used, it sometimes chipped off of the walls and the pieces were eaten by little kids who liked the sweet taste, causing a lot of early childhood deaths. D:
There was this video by contrapoints about Baltimore riots where the narrator describes history of one such a child with lead paint poisoning and there's a pretty detailed description of the effects if you're interested.
@ Oh cool thanks! I'll check it out!
th-cam.com/video/8r6GBo_7UNc/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ContraPoints here, have a link
In Europe, they had banned lead components in paint in the early 1900's, except for the UK who eventually banned it in the 70's. I dunno if that's just laziness but I'm aware they put lead in it because it was such a good preservative. Not worth the health risks though!
I mean this is a pretty morbid thought but what if the reason we don't really hear about autism back then is because of this? I'm a teacher and the amount of times a week I have to tell one of my moderately autistic students to stop licking the walls is unreal (we did have a test done on an old industrial unit we got hold of and had to have it completely stripped and decontaminated for this precise reason)
I hate to say this, but those bug dresses are so beautiful...😍😂
I've always wanted some of these, even if they are made from beetles www.etsy.com/listing/221260456/jewel-beetle-earrings-pick-your-color?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=beetle%20earrings&ref=sc_gallery-1-2&plkey=01950efbc425b76abff1aa411190eb7bc47a7699:221260456&more_colors=1
I don't think the hair jewelry is gross. It's really a loving way to remember your loved one. The dead birds and bug wings are gross to me. I've seen a hair wreath and it wasn't bad.
I think sewing your lover’s initials into their handkerchief with your hair is actually romantic.
"We'Re KilLinG aLl ThE bIrDs CaN wE sTaHp?"
I bought a Victorian house this year, and my girl spent hours an hours looking for any remnant of the dreaded green wallpaper as we did the renovation. That's love! 🖤
Now I'm jealous....(kidding)
@@misslady2639 you might be if you could see the place now and live here. I never lived in a house before this that people drove by stopped and took pictures of. It's unfortunate that all people ever see are the exteriors and rarely get a glimpse of what's inside. I can't imagine living in a new house. It just wouldn't fit me because I like very high ceilings and 10 inch mop boards and everything is just so ornate it's just about to die for.
Have a beautiful Halloween.
Wasn't there once a trend where women had a beetle on a chain and it would just crawl around the top of the dress?
I wanted this to be real so bad...and it looks like it is! www.interesly.com/bizarre-victorian-trend-insect-jewelry/
I remember reading about that. Wasn't it at the tail end of the century? Plus, I think they do something similar in Mexico.
@@tastyanagram so intersting
A LIVE beetle. Um...can't I just keep my pet beetle in a jar? I don't think it really needs to go walkies with me. :P
It was popular in the 60’s too
"Killing animals for fashion"
*peta has entered the chat and is branding themselves for some reason*
😂😂😂😂
Did you see that green dress trend?
Yeah it’s so pretty I’m literally dead 💀
They also had lockets with a lock of hair inside, but in a romantic way , Given to a boyfriend or girlfriend (person they were going to marry)
Which I find romantic.... anyone else ?
Carolina Pinglo Yep!
I agree.Very romantic😀
I find that very romantic. My best friend and I have little lockets with each others hair in it so we can go everywhere with each other and we both plan to be buried with them if we don't end up getting buried near eachother
@niecers oh good Lawd
Carolina Pinglo I think that is sweet😊. You always have a piece of that person....okay, I hear the the creep. But it’s still sweet.
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is that Frodo at the keyboard again? ❤️
The Pinup Companion I love all vintagey youtubers hehe
You are both amazing
Ahhh!!!! My two favorite TH-camrs together!!!!! You guys need to unite!!!!
My bird sits on my head... that doesn't count, does it? She can fly off whenever she wants. When she molts, there are a ton of feathers! I guess the bug wings were like sequins are today.
Famous Peacock Dress was made of green beetle bodies. Was woven with gold and silver threads, an amazing craftmanship and an hommage to Indian textile industry.
According to Umberto Ecco's book "On Ugliness", there are several reasons why people from the XIX Century (and the Victorians in particular) were so obsessed with death. The rising of Romanticism is both a direct response/backlash to the Enlightenment era prior and to the Industrial Revolution that is changing their world too quickly.
Like you said, they had these memento moris because mortality rates were waaaay higher than today. But, that and the fact that industries are rising and making the world grayer and social inequality worse, the focus on melancholy and emotions is sort of a backlash to the XVIII Century obsession with reason and beliefs that reason would always win - because treason is not winning atm. Tbh, historical eras kinda alternate between emotion-driven and reason-driven depending on factors like war and stuff.
I mean... by that logic, The Medieval Era didn't happen either because the Middle Ages as we understand it was a localized phenomena in France. The Renaissance then also didn't happen because it was only in Italy. History uses eras as a way to make studying easier, and a good Historian recognizes that.
But yeah, the Enlightenment era dudes calling the Middle Ages the "Dark Ages" was a gigantic dick move and the Middle Ages had a lot of Philosophy and Science we don't hear about :P
Fun fact: in Polish language we even have a sinusoid wave which shows clearly how different epochs(?)/periods are either emotion- or reason-driven one after the other. It is called Krzyżanowski sinusoid.
Umberto Eco.
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I SECOND THIS
Oh my god I have to let you know some news, Caitlins good friend Landis started following her a little while back so fingers crossed 😬🤞🏻🤞🏻
Yes omg yes
I need this
Hello fellow deathling
I read up on attitudes towards animal rights for my dissertation, and it turns out that lots of late Victorian salons resulted in women's movements to prevent animal abuse, ranging from poor treatment of cart horses to these kinds of fashion trends. They're actually forebearers of the suffragettes as women moved on from these kinds of issues towards questioning their own positions in society. It's super interesting to see how fashion trends, treatment of minorities and of animals are so intrinsically linked!
4:19 Don't worry: this particular pretty beetle did not get extinct or something. It is even used by artist today, though to a much lesser extent than in the Victorian era - it is a part of Malaysian kitchen to eat those, so they are artificially breeded for food and, at least now, artists get their material from beetles that have been eaten, so it's not even wasteful :D
My adopted grandmother used to embroider her husband's initials on his handkerchiefs with her hair as thread.
😮 that's some skill and dedication!
Inadvertent witchcraft right there. To help keep him faithful. She probably didn't realize it. Maybe.
Gives new meaning to "made it myself"
@@callmewaves1160 I was thinking the same thing.. beat me to it.
@@debramagee7358 old school kind of stuff ☺️
If anyone wants these jewel beetle wings, they are a byproduct of the Thai food industry, so you can actually get them pretty cheap on sites like eBay.
In a video by Angela clayton where she used beetle wings on a dress she sent out to the seller a questionnaire which they happily answered and told that the wings are collected after the beetles die as those are an instect protected by their Queen or something? I can see why it would be more efficient to collect them from an insect thats going to be food anyways and it probably varies from one provider to another
@@kimnath the particular beetle used in question dies soon after mateing so the wings (which are actually the beetles wing covers) so they can be collected once the beetle has completed its life cycle. I mean if your vegan 'using' any animal is wrong but I see no problem in collecting the beetle this way.
FaithNoMoo Never did I say this was ethical, only that it is. Besides, just because it’s vegan that doesn’t mean it’s good. Glitter is literally so bad for the environment, dawg.
@@bigerror3325 as well as faux fur...recycle your fur&thrift your leather!
beetles are pests farmers kill, no sympathy here . Japanese beetles kinda like the ones shown in the video just about killed my green beans and strawberries off. if i kill a couple and decorated a dress with them I wouldn't think twice about it let alone give anyone side eye for it.
My grandfather gave all of the women of the family locks of my grandmother's hair in lockets when she passed. So that's a trend that's still around. In case you were interested. We would wear them for any special occasion like Christmas parties, church events, etc.
Bring back mourning jewelry! I think it's an awesome memento of the dead loved one. Hair won't decay if kept out of direct sunlight and some of those designs were stunning! I really want to have some made in the future when I inevitably loose someone close to me.
I love this video. I heard that the arsenic based pigment was also used to color food, because it was the first green that was available. Another strange fashion trend was putting drops of belladonna in one's eyes to dilate the pupils. Sure, you'll go blind, but you'll look amazing doing it.
Tiffany Hallmark yea. Not just bella donna also cocaine drops were used.
Tiffany Hallmark, Scheele's green was used as a food color, but it was not the first green available. People had been using natural coloring agents, such as parsley, for centuries before Scheele's green was invented. The thing that made Scheele's green unique and popular was that it gave a vibrant shade of green that didn't fade.
@@kirstenpaff8946 Thank you for that correction. I feel I wasn't using my brain well enough to think about all of the natural green pigments in the world.
Belladonna can most certainly kill you too.
For the hair jewelry, when my family cat died, I asked my parents to save me some tufts of her fur. I'm making little lockets with the fur and a photo inside. I have always thought it was a really touching and sweet way to remember someone and "keep them with you."
Valanice There is a book about crafting with cat hair! It is mostly needlefelting.
I've seen it and it's fabulous! I don't have enough from the dearly departed one, but my living fluffy boy sheds so much I've been seriously considering it! I've started collecting a little baggy of his fur when I brush him.
I once tried to spin cat hair (when aforementioned cat was still alive). It spins ok--not quite as long a staple as angora fur, though, but much less greasy than sheep wool. But I'm told from other spinners/crafters that if you actually make a garment out of it, it's ridiculously warm.
I wish I could have done that with my cat, but he had died unexpectedly in his sleep at 11 years old and was buried by my stepgrandpa in his backyard (where he lived at the time) before I even knew he was dead. I was only half and hour away at college and he didn't bother to tell me. It was years ago but I'm having a hard time getting over his death because I didn't get to say goodbye.
This comment makes me sad cause I can see the cat in your profile picture may they RIP ❤️☹️
@@Isa-cr7fd no, please don't be sad. The cat in my pic is one of my two living cats, and trust me she's happy and well!
"I'm not saying that's weird. It's just freaking weird."
Those birds on the hats are creepy and gross.... Especially the faces and the fact that you can see it's a friggin bird!
We still have the mourning dress ritual in my culture.
It is optional, but I do remember when my grandmother died I wore only black for the first period, then added some dark blue, dark purple and creme. I think I did this for several months. My mom did not force me. I did it voluntarily.
In our too, but it's not mourning dress, its whole year. You can't wear colorful clothes, reviewing, go to party etc. It is your own choice but it is "expected"
That's so interesting! Which culture is that, if it's ok for me to ask?
Mine too
Same in orthodox Christianity. You're supposed to be mourning for about a year if a spouse/parents or child dies which means you will only be wearing black and you hold special meals/feasts from time to time as a way of remembering the dead. I must say though that in that area the customs are heavily mixed in with paganism so people don't even realise most of the stuff they do has nothing to do with the christian doctrine.
I know when my mum died, I really missed not having any kind of standard mourning rituals. I felt at the time (and still think) that when everything in my life seemed uprooted, it would have helped to give me some stability and something to *do*, you know? And also some way of indicating that I *was* in mourning, instead of having to try and carry on as if nothing was the matter. Also, having the mourning rituals (including standard modes of dress) last for one full year gets you through all those firsts without them--first Christmases, Thanksgivings, birthdays, anniversaries, etc.
It would have been nice to have had that sense of continuity with the past and of following the same rituals that I would have seen Mum (and doubtless others) doing as well before me, you know? And it might have helped transform her death into a stage of both her and my own lives, rather than a personal tragedy that I felt alone and lost in.
TL;DR: Having lost a close family member myself, I feel that Victorian-style mourning rituals very much have their place and are extremely helpful to the living.
--Incidentally, I still have some of her hair as well. :) Seems to be a common thing still!
Is that the moment when I say that I have a ring with one my grandfather's baby tooth on ?
O-O it's cool and weird at the same time
Yeah that is grossly great. Perfect.
@@sarahhunter2855 It's not super polished, but it has been cut in an irregular square shape, so, if you don't know it's a babytooth, it would look like a weird ivory stone !
@@lilykiss1145 cool
Women in the 19th century: look we’re putting birds on our heads!
Marie Antoinette: hold my feathers
Ok, so sometimes I get really confused because I’ll be watching history based channels like Zebrowska’s and Bernadette Banner’s and they’re saying that corsets aren’t bad. But, when I’m watching other channels like Absolute History, they say that corsets are very bad for a woman’s health and they show us pictures of livers with imprints from the ribs of women who wore corsets. So, what I am thinking is that the health problems from corsets are not actually caused by the corsets themselves, but, perhaps, from the women who wore the top tightly or in the wrong way? I’m not sure though. That’s just the hypothesis coming out of my very confused mind..
I think some of our misconceptions about corsets originated in the medical profession’s reaction to the small number of women who practiced tight lacing. There was a movement among doctors to encourage more moderate , looser corset lacing. I suspect that only a very small number of women wore their corsets tight laced.
A correctly fitting corset isn’t bad. Some people wear a medical brace for back pain which is just a modern way of saying corset. It’s just like modern bras, if it fits correctly it supports you, but a bad bra is uncomfortable and can cause back pain. What most don’t mention is how you have to break in a corset similar to a leather shoe. You can’t just wear one for a one day event or photoshoot.
The Mourning Jewelry made of hair was one of the few ways a person could keep a part of the deceased since photography was in the infant stages and was very expensive.
Victorian times is a bit like Australia, alot of things that can kill you
"Stop it. Get some help." 🤣
The Worth peacock dress is an excellent example of the beetle wings as decoration. Probably not from the same period though, please gently correct me if I am wrong.
I believe Worth was the Edwardian era. Some fashions lasted beyond the victorians.
@@lizadams7662 Yeah, I know that people didn't automatically change their entire wardrobe at a new monarch. I just wasn't sure if my dates were correct.
"We're killing all the birds. Can we stop?" - Grandmas of Modern Vegans
Literally x) What an insane concept… *not* needlessly killing sentient beings! Makes me happy there were already people back then who were like, Wait a moment - maybe can do this differently ^_^
It's not fashion or mourning related, but I'm pretty sure my mom has put a lock of my baby hair in my baby photo album. Likewise, I do also believe it's still common to have hair locks in pendants or something? It's interesting how that custom of "hair=memory of someone" still continues today to some degree.
I've seen a wooden box used for collecting all of your child's milk teeth
D:
My parents kept all my baby teeth as well as a lock of baby hair. So weird haha
My mom kept my brothers umbilical cord in a jar. It was so disgusting.
We found an envelope with a braid of hair it in in my mom's house. There were four of us girls with the same color hair so no one can tell who it came from and why it was kept for so long. I wonder if they'll let my make some jewelry...
My great-grandmother left a piece of hair in a locked metal box in her house (now our house). I never knew her, because she died before I was born, so it was kinda creepy finding her hair😂
“The children just died like flies”
Scheele's green dresses-- the original "Arsenic and Old Lace"