So, sportswear companies are selling "corsets" now. Let's investigate.
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Warner, Patricia. "When the Girls Came Out to Play: The Birth of American Sportswear". Massachusetts, University of Massachusetts Press, August 2, 2006.
I actually disagree with this; I mean, yes, it *could probably be worn over another corset, but the advertisement declares that this corselet 'supersedes the corset' and highlights its intention to be worn only on the upper part of the body, allowing for perfect freedom of movement in the lower. I think they've drawn this conclusion because of the strange little buttoned tabs coming out the bottom of it, but the advertisement shows the woman using these tabs to button the waist of her skirt in place. Since the Khiva corselet is very short in length, it wouldn't provide that secure anchor point at the waist that normal, bust-to-hip corsets do.
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A general reply to comments on the fit: it is *extremely* roomy, but this was the smallest size they offered and, judging from the likewise extremely loose fit on the model, I can only presume that this is meant to be the intended fit of this design. They've deliberately dressed her in a S rather than an XS for the product photo, and this isn't anything out of the ordinary in modern clothing construction: clothing nowadays tends to automatically be built with tons of ease, because consumers just aren't comfortable in tight-fitting non-stretch clothing anymore; even corset patterns produced by modern 'big four' pattern companies come built with this roominess built into the pattern, which, while comfy and convenient for modern everyday clothes, rather defeats the purpose of a tight-fitting corset.
The footage you see of active performance in the garment is following a slight alteration to narrow the body of the garment by taking a small amount out of straight seams in the back to increase the snugness, whereas I had not yet altered it for the initial try-on; there was not enough difference in support to warrant mentioning: it only ended up constricting my ribcage and limiting breathing without still providing any bust support, since the bones are not pushing up from an anchored point at the waist as in historical stays and corsetry, but are pre-bent into their own curved position with the intent of building out an Ideal Bust Shape rather than working *with* the bust to create a supported shape. Yes, I could have made a more substantial alteration under the bust, tapered some of the seams and re-shaped the bones, but then the entire experiment would be pointless as I would be deviating too much from the original pattern shapes to give a fair assessment of its effectiveness.
There is also the glaring obviousness that I am a very small-busted lady to begin with, and so my assessment of this cannot necessarily speak for the supportiveness of this garment on larger busts. (Any larger-busted costubers who want to give this a try and might fit into my XS, hit me up before I upcycle this into a bust bodice. ;D)
It should also be said, in case this wasn't clear from the video, that this is not a "roast" of this garment. It is a genuine investigation of a thing that clearly has historical influence, and I was curious to see how it performed. While obviously it wasn't up to historical standards, this clearly wasn't the goal; I commend its nod to historical dress nonetheless.
I appreciate this essay. I just remembered how much it gaped on the model as well. I commend you on your experiment of taking tucks. How sad that it could not even attempt to support a bosom. After all, it is marketed by a sports company, presumably for active wear.
While bosom size, and ribcage, size both vary hugely, there are a significant enough amount of ladies of similar proportion, or more modest endowment. The companies are clearly catering to customers' desires for loose fitting clothing.
You're moving?!
I must say, these garments are mostly made for ladies with small busts, as on a larger or even medium bust the top just ends up sticking away from the body instead of conforming to it because of the front pre-shaped bones and the fact that they're rather loose or even stretchy, so it's quite impossible to get a tight fit that would force the bones to actually form to the body. At leas that has been my experience with these sort of bones-on-princess-seams/only-in-the-front types of garments
Not a costuber but very much into costuming and a larger-busted XS sized person. If ever you would not find someone else I would enjoy trying to see whether it provides anything like support.
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I agree. Even modestly sized people would have challenges finding an exact match to their specific dimensions. We are all shaped so differently!
I swear the 2020's is just about bringing things from the past 20's back into fashion. Corsets? Check. Bust bodices? Check. Plague? Check.
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The plague being the most fashionable, of course.
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Economic Crisis? Check.
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never did I think I'd see the day Bernardette wore a piece from Adidas, but here we are.
Right tho
It was 2020. Expect the unexpected.
She didn't think so either. Read the comments underneath her video for her thoughts on that.
2020, what have you done to us!?!?!
My thoughts exactly!
It almost seems scandalous to see Bernadette with a modern-day logo on her clothing...
It's like seeing a Nike Swoosh on a knight's armor.
... Wasn't there a movie where that was a thing?
It’s like seeing her ankles, Ik kidding, this is joke, don’t come for me ;-;
@@lonestarr1490 yes! The one with health ledger loved that movie as a kid 🥰😍
@@lonestarr1490 Marie-Antoinette with the Converse shooes in her shooe collection.
yep, A Knight's Tale 😍
It is a tank top with some grandiose ideas about itself.
@Grace Graham Tank tops are usually fitted so yeah.
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Amen!
I thought the same thing 🤣
*a shitty tank top
I'm surprised that some clever ad corporation hasn't dubbed this the "sporset".
Please don’t give them any ideas 🙏🏻
@@therussianprincess7036 i was just about to say that
Get that copyrighted before they steal it.
Someone trying to move up in said corp; "write that down, write that down!"
Just as cursed as spork
Modern fashion companies when they make any fabric tube with a bone in it: this is a ✨corset✨
Or anything shirt like garment with lacing
I don't think they ment it to be a actually corsets, it's just a label
@@makaelaischillin yessss thank you
Am I the only one who’s semi surprised that modern fashion is dipping their toes into corsets. I know that they’ve always been around, but I feel like their creeping back into the popularity. Am I the only one? Also good luck with your move Bernadette!
Seems big companies are finally just paying enough attention to go, "Hm, this seems popular enough that we can make money."
@@LaviniaDeMortalium yes, now if only more fabric shops would catch on and start selling things like linen thread and buckram!
I'v been seeing it for a while now: see vivienne westwood 1999 corsets being worn by tiktok/infuencers + see brands like Manemane who have been selling them for a while
The Love Witch a medical corset or an everyday one to replace bras with?
I would love to purchase a corset (or even make one of my own), but I just have no idea where to look!
I’m genuinely ready for these types of corsets lol, would look so cute with jeans
Absolutely no one:
My brain: Sporset.
Yeah. Someone else said that as well.
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Hahaha
Genius! You should work for Nike
haha same
the logo makes the “”corset”” look so much worse in my opinion
Yes but the fabric as well. It kind of looks like a cheap swimming costume
@@hannas9087 i agree
same, i never like it when the logo is super visible on whats supposed to be an '"aesthetic" clothing piece
@Bria Tia I don't wear historical clothing and have never thought that slapping a logo in the middle of a product made it look "better." I'm sure there are people with modern tastes that agree with either viewpoint. Personally I don't love paying a brand a premium for a low/moderate quality good where they then use my body for advertising space.
I would love to have sat in on the meeting for this where someone suggested selling a modern "sport" corset but without support. Lol! Also, hell yeah to the monocle!!
I think the 2020 people love the beautiful aspect of corset, but media and what not resulted in the comen misconception that they are uncomfortable resulting in this contraption being born!
I don't think it's actually that deep. Even though adidas is a sports brand, they also make clothes for normal wear. And corset or bust bodices got very popular lately. It actually looks like a copy of the satin ones from Vivienne Westwood (who actually has an understanding of historical clothing), except they put adidas logo on it.
@@user-ok4xb1rd9f yeah it’s clearly not meant for sport
The corset shape is popular atm, that's why they made it, it isn't meant to have support
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Weird coincidence: my queued video for next week includes me deadlifting a barbell in a fashion corset 😁
Good luck with the move!
Can't wait!
@@yessirz5657 please don’t promote content here
Fancy seeing you here. ✌️
Why hello Jill.
Jill! You’re wonderful!
I feel like so many things are called a “corset” now because people don’t know any other words for garments that look anything like that. haha. it looked cute on you!!
There's this thing called shapewears which is basically just a modern corset...
@@myfirstoocwarning8483 Actually no. Shape wear has nothing in common with modern corsets, which are their own thing.
@@myfirstoocwarning8483 modem shapewear/ foundation garments are EXPONENTIALLY less comfortable
The garment she is wearing looks more like a fitted vest.
A lot of what people are now calling corsets are just stays tbh
Bernadette: talks like a 1900’s scholar
Also Bernadette: “the TL;DR is...”
Even immortals can appreciate modern slang
@@marveludus the immortal queen's (and Kings) of youtube 💖💖
What does TDLR mean?
@@Me-ju6gp TL;DR = too long; didn't read
@@marveludus Oh okay. Thank you.
Regarding the surviving sports corset -this is completely anecdotal- I’m a classical dancer and I’ve noticed that my dancing garments tend to show more wear than my everyday clothing from all of the strenuous and sweaty movement in them. Perhaps there aren’t as many because they deteriorate more quickly
Cough -point shoes- cough
As another classical dancer - exactly! Think about how often you need to re-bone the tops of tutus (which are functionally corsets). Of course, since its perfectly easy to dance in a very very tight bodice, with relatively stiff boning, that supports the fact that there really isnt any point for a sports corset
Yet another classical dancer agreeing with everything everyone else here has said! I'll add that I do historical costuming as well, and have danced in an 1880's style corset before (why not try it?), and all it really impedes is those big Vaganova back bends, which weren't so much a part of 19th c. ballet anyway. Otherwise? It's another stiff bodice.
@Hangman's Daughter I'd agree with that assessment. I might be generous, and give it 3 classes with my favourite hardass instructor, but that thing doesn't look like it's near to the quality of a good leotard! And it looks way less comfortable too. Good point about people not hanging onto sweaty, stinky old sport corsets! That would be like hanging onto every pair of pointe shoes a ballet dancer destroys! And dead pointe shoes can be *nasty*.
I'm not a classical dancer, but a hip hop dancer- I have noticed a similar problem with clothes that are marketed as "hip hop dance" clothes. It really does bring into question the high price compared to durability
Can we just appreciate how organized her boxes are? I've never moved houses but the fact that she is writing down what is in each box on her laptop is just oddly satisfying
Legit gonna try this in autumn this year when I move out, looks helpful as hell lol
@@dark_baphomet Good Luck lmao
It takes double or triple the time to do than you would think it should(also take pictures of fragile or valuables items before putting them in the box), but its very helpful to prevent things from "getting lost"(don't attach that inventory to the box) in the move(also handy for crossing international borders) and when it comes time to unpack, it helps tremendously for being able to prioritize which boxes to unpack first(and I think makes the time invested well worth it). I also like to put the total number of boxes on each box(n of n) on all sides of the box and color code them based on their intended room. To make the unloading go faster, I also create a separate inventory sheet that says where each box should go based on its number and have a basic numbered(and colored) room layout diagram with those corresponding numbers printed out(multiple copies to tape up at every entrance the movers might use).
Regardless of if you're paying for professional movers or not, I highly recommend having an "essentials box"(or one for each family member) for everything that you might need for living in your new home for at least the first week(this should also include food for a few days, toilet paper for each bathroom and general cleaning supplies). Moving can be very stressful and extremely tiring, so having that dedicated box that you personally bring to your new home with all your essentials in it, takes a lot of the stress out of the equation. Also try to get the Utilities setup and turned on at your new home at least two weeks prior to your move in date(having no water or power sucks).
There might also be professional moving companies in your area that are willing to completely pack and move your household goods for you(very popular in Japan). And if you can afford it(for cross town moves, it's not much more expensive than a large truck rental for where I live) I say let someone else break their back moving all your stuff for you! For cross town moves, the moving companies usually have three guys in a truck and assuming everything is packed and ready to go; my experience has been that they are able to completely move everything in a single day, which is another reason I think paying for them is well worth it.
It's mandatory for using moving services/moving your stuff into the UK!
Plus writing it on the laptop is a good idea. When my sister moved, she had all the boxes carefully inventoried, but then someone packed her little notebook with the inventory into a box. She ended up finding it in the very last box.
Honestly I wouldn’t mind if we brought back undergarments that provided more back support...
yeah, I have back pain and bad posture
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@@yessirz5657 this better not be a ricroll or anything...
@@yessirz5657 uh what the heck?
I would like some that provided front support that are actually comfortable. I wish I could find modern stays in my size for less than $400.
Can we just appreciate how supremely ORGANIZED Bernadette is? She numbers her boxes, and keeps a bulleted list of what's in each and every one of them. Meanwhile, all of my things are in opaque unlabeled plastic tubs/totes that are in the garage and haven't been opened for like 5 years...
Im moving right now. Currently im just throwing everything away, and what doesnt get thrown away is being randomly thrown into boxes so when i get to my new apt, i can sit on the floor, eat pudding, and cry about why i cant find so and so. Good times.🤷
@@irisl2508 Ahhh, a person after my own heart... 🤣🤣🤣
That way you know you can throw them out next time you move ;)
So effectively useless but looks nice. Like balconette bras
or me!
@@Dumpknoedel do you want to talk about this?
I always found balconette bras to be the best of a bad lot. Different folks I guess. 🤷♀️
I exclusively wear balconette bras! Always padded, in spite of a large cup size, and I always feel very well supported and held. I can't stand full cup bras, I feel like I'm being choked!
I love balconette bras! I find that I don't get the necessary support from a full cup like I can get from a balconette.
*edit* : @everyone who replied to this comment, please be nice to each other! TH-cam is a place to have fun and watch cool stuff.
Modern people: Corsets are restrictive and they kill people
Victorians: Play tennis, do pushups, do a handstand, do EVERYTHING.
Modern people: Well, maybe if they're not so bad, let's try it
Clothing historians: FINALLY
Also people trying it: *buys bustiers and longline bras instead*
“OMG I died!”
The jumping in and out of barrels was awesome! 😳
@@Muck006 I would also add a **C) modern movies that take place in "past" that tend to villify corsets in the good ol' "it burned my house, drowned my cat and made my children orphan" kind of matter.**
@@Muck006 tbh the people who were anti corset were in fact men. the corset was a booming business and a lot of women had shoppes.
She legit said herself that its hard to breath in it. Yall crazy stupid. 5:24 no piece of clothing worth changing the way you breath because it’s distracting!
Shes so dearly uncomfortable with modern fabric. Its actually adorable.
I wish her feelings towards it were normalized, I feel exactly the same.
@Bria Tia Another 'blaming death corsets on the patriarchy' thing perhaps?
Like, they're giving women who actually _buy_ it the wrong impression that, "if this is the _modern_ corset, imagine what _19th century_ corsets were like."
@@AmazingRebel23 If only i weren't allergic to wool
My favorite was the little monacle over your eye when you said "my scholarly conclusion", it brought me so much joy! Good luck with your move and congrats!
Same! A very laugh out loud moment indeed 🧐
Adidas Originals is indeed their Fashion line not made for functionality ;)
True, it'll probably make a corset in the athletic line depending on the reception and popularity of the fashion "sport" corset.
A few years ago Stella McCartney designed a sportsline for Adidas. Back then I was a serious athlete and very interested in what she offered. I was very disappointed and wrote an email to Adidas that the offered items were for listed reasons (fabrics, sewing patterns,...) not athletic wear but athletic looking fashion and asked to change the description.
Never received an answer but a few weeks later they changed the description that it was fashion for women who wanted to show of their athletic lifestyle. 😄
In historical fashion one has to consider ballet dancers as extraordinary sports people as well. The confining costumes they wear have evolved from corseted costumes. And yet they perform with such grace and agility.
This is very interesting, but I find my main thought is "I hope her new place has great windows like her old place. Also, OMG, moving away from the shops in the garment district?"
She’s moving across the pond.
She's moving to the UK, she recently shared a picture of her global talent visa
@@JuanDavidOrjuela Oh I hope she gets to spend more time with Kathy Hay then :) at least when covid is dealt with
@@JuanDavidOrjuela Yess!! Fantastic! (sorry)
I know it feels like the end of an era! Up until now all her vids were from her Manhattan home! Excited to "see" her new home.
I am aware that the theme of the video is "corsets" but I am amazed by the calming vibes of your "I'm moving to a different continent" actions. I moved houses 3 blocks away and it was the most stressful thing I've experienced.
She barely has any possessions.
My mom and I moved 3 miles and her anxiety was crazy bad. She wants to move to Montana from California, I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to send her on vacation and make sure the loading and unloading days are full of distractions even while she's on vacation.
At 7:11 you see Bernadette making a list of the contents of the boxes she is packing. Girl is ON TOP of her schtuff! I'm impressed. I've moved 10 times in the last 10 years (I am not exaggerating) and it's always a clusterfest (yes I know that's not the real expression, but this is a family friendly channel after all).
I've moved countries 3 times in the past 4 years. If you don't have too much stuff, are on top of admin, and are ready for the changes in your life that come with a big move, it isn't too stressful.
i moved with just a suitcase of clothing across the world and let me tell you I DO NOT RECOMMEND!!
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“Time traveller attempts to categorize modern clothing in familiar terms”
most people packing for a move: **just put stuff in boxes in no real particular order**
bernadette: **organizes possessions and creates an itemized inventory list**
never in my wildest dreams could I be this put together. she is #goals
I'm not quite as organized as her but I do write on the boxes and organize the boxes according to theme of items
inventory lists are usually required when you've hired a company to handle your move for you, in case anything gets lost or damaged
@@MxDarcy especially when its being shipped over seas?
I am also going through a move and doing something similar.
@@carochan86 yes as you might have to depending on items have to pay import taxes and also certain items may not be allowed due to biosecurity and other lawsm
Okay just so you know, your channel has been my comfort channel this past year. You know the internet is so full of drama and real life is just plain overwhelming. Your channel is the one place guaranteed to bring comfort and peace. Thank you ♥️♥️♥️
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Yes, 1000 times agree! I even watched some videos several times because they’re just so informative but soothing and pleasing to the eye! They brought me a lot of comfort during the madness that was 2020, so thank you 💕
I have really enjoyed these videos this year, also. Every few days, I'll wonder if there's another lovely sewing video up. It's just so soothing and pretty!
This is soooooo true!
Totally! These videos have been so calming, interesting, educational, funny in a gentle way... Bernadette, you are loved and appreciated so much!
That item is from the Adidas Originals line, which is their fashion line, not sports (they have the trefoil leaf logo instead of the three diagonal bars). It's not meant to offer any technical features.
Oh, that explains a lot!
Adidas fashion line😂😂😂
Whew!
I assumed it was for hiding tummy chub under other sports gear so... this seems even less useful :D
Less useful then
The moment I saw the logo I was like ah, the fashion line. Glad I scanned the comments first. I'm always surprised how many folk don't know the 2 main logos of such an iconic brand.
Like the short video though it is a pity the "corset" is not a proper one. But a nice fun diversion! And you're packing everything away! I'll be missing it when you start your England videos. Anyway, congratulation on the big one millions!
Bernadette is moving to England? Alas, I don't follow anyone on Instagram or anything. Does anyone have some more information regarding this? I have loved her little apartment!
@@janetsingperry5834 she didn't say much about it but posted a picture of her visa on instagram recently 🤷♀️
@@queenmcroyal6186 thank you for responding! she has so many comments I knew I had to get it in early or it would disappear in a hailstorm! I really enjoy her videos and wish her well. I can't wait to see where she moves to. Have a great day!
So buy a proper one
I, too, am not an Instagram follower --- is Bernadette moving to England? What will she be doing over there? I will so miss being a frequent "virtual" guest in her N.Y. apartment, but hope to see more of her videos in the future. Now she can visit Cathy Hay and Constance McKenzie more easily, so there is a silver lining!
I was watching a Western where the female lead was riding around in naught but a shift and let me tell you as a larger-busted lady I would never dream of riding a horse without a corset or bra. Just- ouch
Oof. I feel this.
Bounce. Bounce. Bounce. Bounce.
Yeah, no thanks. I’m busty and not super sensitive - I often do not wear a bra around the house though I know a lot of ppl feel they want the support all the time - but when I ride, these puppies are strapped DOWN.
You trust me, you don’t wanna do that with a smaller/normal bust either..
@@phebepint4343 The one area where EVERYONE agrees sports bras aren’t supportive enough: a gaggle of equestrians with boobs. Small, big, doesn’t matter, everyone has a horror story. 😆
Yikes. I'm a D-cup, and just going about my day is heavy, and my bra gives *no* proper support. I gotta get myself something to properly secure them. I've even considered finding binders, just to tie them down for excersise. Because jiggling, bouncing breasts is not at all comfortable.
As an art historian the fact that she just casually owns archival boxes makes my heart so happy 😊
May i so dumbly ask, what is an archival box?
@@vera_lightI hope you don't mind me answering as you may now already know.
An archival box is made of strong , good/high quality card board and acid free, so that items can be stored safe from dust, light and be preserved and the boxes can't crush each other when stacked apon each other. 😊
Just to add that museum's and galleries may use them to store documents, archeology finds and such like.
I wonder if the different types of athletic corsets advertised relates at all to preferences based on bust size. Shorter for smaller, longer for larger perhaps?
How did you post a comment 22 hours ago if the video was posted 2 hours ago?
@@elisedutcher4923 I assume patrons get early access to videos, that's the standard fare.
@@leetri ah
I doubt it. Since when has the clothing industry catered for everyone?
@@wonderwend1 When clothing was custom made to fit you and body sizes didn't matter as much because you were doing heavy lifting and didn't want to look like one extremely cold winter could kill you
Edit: this is snarky and unhelpful, but really, most Victorian ready-made patterns catered to bust sizes of at least 45 inches, if not 50. A lot of catalogs don't even have sizes listed because it was expected you would have it fitted and altered.
The dislikes are Adidas executives.
I've had a look at Adidas' online store and there's absolutely no mention of either sports or chest 'support' in the product description. All it say is that it creates a nice body shape and goes with everything, so I think it is very much intended as a fashion rather than a sports garment. As regards the reinforced stitching at the ends of the bones, I'm inclined to think that this is probably more influenced by modern wired bra design, rather than historical corsetry. Modern bra wires have similar reinforcing at the wire ends, despite which I've had several poke their way out as the bra became more worn, usually at the most inconvenient time possible.
Oh yeah. And ending up tearing apart the rubber lining of the washing machine...
@@fruzsimih7214 To be fair most wired bras are labelled "hand-wash only." I still wash mine in the machine anyway, because its really the only way to get them clean enough, especially if you've gotten sweaty in them. They usually machine wash without problems, though it does probably mean they don't last as long. Ironically, the only bra wire I've ever actually had snap (as opposed to poke out one end) in a machine is one that was actually specifically supposed to be machine washable.
It's from their Adidas Originals line, which has nothing to do with sportswear or function. The logo clearly displayed on the front of the corset makes it very clear but somehow, people still think it's supposed to be full of features.
@@alexkatie5206 I think that's because many people only know the logo of the brand with the three leaves and associate it with a known sports-brand (or just look at the three stripes) and automatically think it's supposed to have that funtion. I've never heard of them having two logos (or even a fashion line) and after googling it I only now realized that they're different despite having seen both versions before. It isn't a surprise to me that someone who normally isn't interested in the brand wouldn't know this.
Exactly what I thought when I had to reinforce push the wires back in the bra and stitch up the ends like anybody would know to double stitch or triple stitch that
You’re moving?! I’m going to miss the peacefulness of your beautiful apartment... Good luck on your next adventure, Bernadette!
Earlier posters have told me that she is moving to England!! How fun!
@@Tantejuju65 Yes! She posted about her visa on Instagram!
@@Tantejuju65 Lucky ducky she is!!!!
Woo hoo we will be in the same country
I just saw her post about it! What a time to move! But best of luck to her! ❤🇬🇧
Ah, I see. The look of a corset without the actual function.
Or any function, really.
bernadette trying not to flame modern brands' attempts of historical garments: the saga
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It literally isn’t nor trying to be any sort of ”attempt of historical garments” though, so this doesn’t really make any sense
I've just noticed you've hit a million subscribers. Congratulations! That's a million people whose lives you touch with your fabulous videos. x
OMG, I got a heart from Bernadette. I am so completely thrilled. Just wow! xxx
Are you going to do a special 1M subscribers video?
Congratulations Bernadette. Well deserved xxx
I love the mask in suffragette colors!
Me too!
Same!!
Yes 💚♡💜!!
the gq pride flag came to my mind at first, but cool to know about this flag!
@@EtherealAmoeba I came to the comments to ask if it was a pride flag lmao
I saw the ads for this adidas corset several weeks. I immediately thought “that Victorian TH-cam lady” would never stand for this idea.
I’m pleasantly surprised at how accepting Bernadette was towards this corset.
It looked more like a sporty corset-inspired tank top for gals that go braless anyway. Not a structural thing and the straps didn't fit you well. Fun & informative though. 👍
Yes, "corset-inspired" tank top. I like your description.
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Exactly. How would you even make fit perfectly something that has only zipper and probably is being selld in 5 sizes.
You are the best. I especially like the fact that you called out Adidas in the description over their labour policies and were not prepared to be fobbed off by their meaningless "Social responsibility" statement. I generally have no interst in fashion or clothing but you are so refined, knowledgeable and interesting, that I watch every one of your uploads. Thanks for sharing.
I just kept hearing ’‘all the single layers - all the single layers‘‘
Don't mind you... Just putting EVERY OTHER PERSON ON EARTH's moving arrangements to SHAME
RIGHT. I wanna be as organized as bernadette!
I'm starting to put together my own move (eek!) and I really do commend her organization. I, however, have way too much crap to pack to take time to do that.
Yup.
@@ShannaCarlson525 the good thing about numbering boxes and then creating a list is that you can fill a box with a bunch of disparate things, just write down what things are in said box.
I find it a much more flexible arrangement than trying to stick with “this box for this room” type of packing. And then it’s also very easy to find what you need when you’ve moved. You can make a few printouts of your list, as well as email it to yourself so you have the list on your phone, and with you at all times.
Highly recommend this method of packing!
@@katherinemorelle7115 Definitely. I really prefer to pack boxes so that they're within a particular weight range for their size and shape, and to fit things in, around, and fill the box. Leaving room in the top is just asking for it to get smushed.
It leads to some strange combinations of what gets packed, particularly in terms of large items, but for long distance moves, it's definitely the way to go. Leaving your beautiful, sort of delicate side table unboxed is perfectly logical if you're moving yourself across the city, and a terrible idea for long distance.
I've never actually made that kind of list, I just wrote on the boxes, but based on the confused, but appreciative, and amused, feedback I got from the friend I packed for. A list is definitely the way to go if you're not the only person packing and unpacking your own belongings, and you don't happen to have an brain which is conducive to a near encyclopedic memory for items - and don't wish to be getting texts for the next 3 months asking where one might find particular items. The good news is nothing got damaged.
Do you think this could be more useful for a lady with a bigger bust, who might not want the quite localised pressure of a sports bra? Or would it just be useless anyway, and provide no support for the bust?
That's an excellent question, and one I can't answer first-hand! My instinct is that, without it being anchored in any way at the waist or even banded in any way at the underbust, it wouldn't be stable enough from below to provide much support, even if one could properly fill it out.
@The Love Witch reducing waist size was a side effect, not the primary purpose of wearing a corset or stays in the first place. at least originally.
I have a bigger bust, and also a sports bra similar to this one, but without the bones and zipper, and I feel this one would be equally useless XD
At least this doesn't have the straps crossed on the back, my war traumas would have returned in that case... 😂
@The Love Witch it really provides great back support, and support on the waist too . The support was really necessary because clothes at that time were heavy to wear. Your body needed support to carry the skirts and crinoline, etc etc
@The Love Witch support, I believe Breast and back.
Bernadette, if you ever happen to see this, I remember a while back you mentioned in a Skillshare ad-read that you were doing some learning on there about storytelling, camerawork, etc. and I just gotta say that it's really payed off. Your videos have never been bad by any means but its abundantly clear that you've steadily increased and improved your filmmaking and visual storytelling abilities with each video. It's fun to see someone grow and evolve, and I just wanted to give you some credit for your effort and tell you that it noticeably shows.
Absolutely ignoring Adidas "corset" and merely interested in the fact that you seem to be moving 😆
She showed on Instagram that she got a British visa finally so I wonder if that’s where she’s headed
I found her way of organizing her boxes interesting and satisfying
She still seems to have the second Ikea Tabletop, too... I wonder why she didn't return it.
She has written on her channel about going to UK with work visa. She will stay there so long that, she takes Cesario along, despite the 4 month quarantine he must endure.
Haven't started watching yet,
giving this 100 shifted organs/10
im sorry what does this even mean
@@danamichaux2883 a corset joke!
I suspect, they actually had a very educated designer, whom couldn't execute what they wanted to and is now having nightmares of historically correct corsets screaming to them in side boning.
*CONGRATULATIONS ON 1 MILLION SUBSCRIBERS...!!!*
Your channel is what gave me the strength to complete an 1850's men's waistcoat that is WAY more complex than I ever thought - its a men's suit jacket with no sleeves...
My paternal grandmother (1884 -1977) was one of the first women of her generation to get a college degree in physical education, and in the years before she married, actually worked as a coach for women's athletics at the college level. Somewhere in my family's archive, there's a photo of her posing with her 1905 women's basketball team (yes, she was a tall woman). This is not the first time I wish I could go back in time and ask her all sorts of questions I never knew to ask her while she was still alive. :-/
On the one hand, I'm glad she married, because that led to my father, and thus, to me. But on the other hand, all the work she had done as a younger woman for women''s suffrage and social relief ended when she got married, and that makes me kind of sad for the rest of the world. You Know?
Wow!
I'd love to see an ACTUAL modern take on an athletic corset.
love the dio profile pic!
Same! As someone who works in warehouses and has a large bust I would like a nice looking back brace that fits under the shirt.
I remember the video you made about setting up the appartment, the sowing table, the bookshelf, and I got a little parasocial nostalgia. :)
Thank you very much for making this sweet and short video WHILE being stressed by moving places. Good luck!
Please try one of these “fitness” waist trainers. I’d be so interested to see what you think considering they have such mixed reviews and controversial claims and things!
Yes!
Ugh nobody should suffer a shoddy tube with 10,000 hooks.
@@cottoncandie761 hahahahah a very accurate description 😂
I'm actually going through an adidas phase myself and I've definitely read the description for this "corset" because I actually did want to buy it. (I didn't because I'm pretty busty and it looks constrictive in that department and I probably wouldn't be wearing it often enough to justify buying it) The description itself states that's it's purely for fashion or "Street wear"; while I think this video was pretty interesting and funny and surprisingly well timed because the Adidas Corset is a relatively new product; it was never meant to be a sports garment despite Adidas itself being a sportswear brand and the description for the garment itself implies that.
I can’t help but wonder if this “corset” would be more functional if it were more snug? It seemed to have a lot of extra room
That, and a sturdier fabric too probably.
Then still half of the front has no back and will just flap about.
Given the brand, they are on the notorious side for not having decent fitting bras for larger busts. Like past a proper D
@@FlickiChicki lol good point. I don’t even have a super large bust but I generally buy brooks
@The Love Witch no?
So... a way to look “cool” in those gyms that are still open?
this corset feels like it isn't really sure what it wants to be.
8:31 Did I NOT INSTRUCT THAT BOX 5 WAS TO BE KEPT EMPTY?!
This wins Best Comment 🤣🤣🤣
@@bernadettebanner Yay internet points!
I already know what’s going to be in box 42!!!!
Okay 1) that cake looks incredible and I'm jealous, even though it's only 9am my time and I should have breakfast before even contemplating cake, 2) delightful mask, 3) I had a dream about adventuring with you, Bernadette! The details escape me but I think it was pretty distressing and there was a lot of running from things because at the end we were both very shaky and unsteady (and in a coffee shop, for some reason? Ah, we've circled back to cake) and then I woke up.
I mean, pancakes are technically breakfast cakes.
Honestly I’m just relieved I’m not the only one who has chaotic adventure dreams with actors, book characters and youtubers.
Anything you can stomache as the first meal of the day is breakfast imo.
I'm not big into sweet things but I too found that cake to be distractingly attractive and I kind of want to make a similar one now.
It reminds me of 80’s/90’s club wear, and I’m guessing that’s where they got their inspiration from. My first attempts at “corset” sewing were kind of like this (in the 90’s), it’s a very simple shape, and especially in Lycra is super quick and easy to sew, and simple to adapt, although I remember them being more fitted.
Bernadette : let's see what this does...
*zips up*
Me: Absolutely... Nothing.
Indeed. One could see it. Silly item, really.
I am always impressed that Bernadette can just... Casually zip things behind her own back... My arms/shoulders definitely don't do that
Me, with a large bust: Let's watch a video that talks about something that clearly would never be useful to me.
Same here
But I was still hoping 😂
Same!
Same!!!
I'm sure they still had large busts then too and had options. I'm looking into bodices and corsets because I'm tired of my bras and it's so hard to find a decent DDD bra that doesnt cost an arm and a leg.
@@classyrichwise I meant the sports one.
Miss. Bernadette, you have inspired this ol' lady to get back to her dreams! It's been great watching and learning with and from you over the years. You are going to be great in England! I'm a lil jelly that they'll have one of our national treasures. But I look forward to experiencing your new adventures with you and Cicero!
❤️❤️❤️
I cannot help but wonder if the lack of support is a sizing issue.
When you said you were moving my brain was like 😱 She just got her glorious sewing room set up!
Agree... it's a stretch garment, it needs to fit quite snug to give support. Sports bras (which this basically is) are supposed to fit quite a bit tighter than that.
The mask in the colors of the American Women’s Suffrage Movement is just excellent!
Ah, I was wondering if it was an ace pride flag for a second, TIL!
@@BarbarianGod The ace flag is black, grey, white, purple. If it /was/ a pride flag it would be the genderqueer one which is purple, white and green
I was kinda confused because I thought it was the genderqueer flag. but I guess they have the same colors \_~_~_/
I searched up the colors of that movement and it doesn't match, isn't the third color supposed to be yellow? The mask looks green at the bottom to me
@@hiimdi9755 - The UK and USA had different colours. She has a video on both as pleated ribbon roundels (actual name?), as would have been worn historically to support the movement.
So my first thought is that it looks like a binder, but as it seems to give no support, I'd have to agree that it's more of an aesthetic garment vs. a support or containment garment. It might help normalize visual binders in the wild, though so that's a perk in my opinion.
I LOVE your box organization system.
My cousin's husband (cousin-in-law?) made that series, the Victorian House of Arts & Crafts! So glad you like it xx
that vase gave me anxiety, i was like 'hope it doesnt fall over....'
I really hope someone offers you own TV/Netflix-show. Would love to see you hosting a documentary series about history of fashion, or victorian times.
I'm offended that Mother TH-cam's algorhythm didn't feed me her content sooner.
💯💯💯
You know I am not agreed on your statement, yes I know you don't give a damn to my views based on your statement. Christ taught us not to get offended on these kind of small things, it increases negativity in environment.
Oh BTW, let me tell you something
, I love you SW......
Me too. Ima need to speak to TH-cam’s manager
When I saw her videos for the first time, that was my exact reaction. Now I can't imagine a life without Bernadette's calming voice!
I agree. I saw this in my feed two days ago.
My focus on corset history more or less totally derailed at the point where the flat move was mentioned... I hope it all goes well and you're happy in your new space! Also that cake looked amazing!
Bernadette pulling up the zipper on her back like it's nothing is the most impressive thing I've seen all day.
Yeah I was too like "zipper on the back for that??? Do we all have maids again??
Seriously!!
Is that supposed to be difficult??
I was recently diagnosed with Elhers Danlos Syndrome and I'm learning so many things I thought were normal are in fact...not. like it's not normal for my arm to completely rotate.
@@tibicenlinnei4014 its just a flexibility thing. Most people aren't that flexible. There's a reason there's a string on a diving suit zipper.
yeah same, i have eds as well and half of my conversations with friends are "so it turns out biotypicals can't do this??? whoops"
some examples are scratching / washing / zipping their own back, touching toe to shoulder, locking legs 100% "straight" (with no bump outward at the knee), touching chin to center chest, and touching lower rib to hip by slouching
for a laugh (and a quiet "oh no" at how eds bodies apparently don't work right), look up 'average range of motion' + any joint you can think of. humans are surprisingly limited in how their bodies are supposed to move
Having spent the later half of 2020 moving an entire museums collection from an old storage location to a newly renovated storage space, I felt you wrapping those textile boxes deeply in my soul.
I have been going through a rough patch and this has been my comfort channel. Its like sitting with a kind old friend with a very soothing voice
my mum:
“That’s Bernadette Banner isn’t it?”
SHE LEARNS
scary
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My mom and I separately watched her and were surprised when one of us mentioned her, the other was like: "oh yeah, I watch her videos, she makes interesting stuff, I'm learning so much, wait, you watch her videos too?"
i love that you labeled all of your boxes "box"
Maybe they were magical shapeshifting boxes? xD
@@Marakatt3 Beware of the mimics :P
Maybe there's boxes inside the boxes?
here is my favorite moving box lables xkcd.com/1762/
@@phadenswandemil4345 Inception 😱
Catching up after several months and just watched all the sewing room set-up/tour, come to find out that you are moving! I’m highly inspired by your setting up and choosing aesthetic, as I have moved 3 times last year and only today hope to bring some of my aesthetic to my current room-in-shared house. I am now calm and focused that I can follow my own aesthetic,, which might be called minimalist Victorian + maximalist English country cottage decor ( walls crowded with medley of art). Am also decided to go all-wool and all-cotton for my fiber art of choice: crochet. PS Love your wardrobe video!! I’m inspired there too. It’s been quite a morning. 👏🏼🍾💐🌻🌈💙🙏🏾🐸💫🐣🦋💪🏽🙋🏻♀️
I was hopeful for a moment that maybe we were going in the right direction of going away from the normal 21st century bras, and then immediately disappointed by the results... Interesting concept though :)
There is that hope. But i wouldn't expect a lot since the fashion is still fast and cheap
Although last time a friend dragged me with her to victoria secret, i did see more of those longer bras that go partway down your ribcage. It was a pleasant surprise. They did not have my size or i would have tried one on
@@catelynh1020 Those are called longline bras btw. Hopefully that helps your search!
@@eileen1020 i must try this! Already given up on normal bras since they hurt me, however, sports bras work fine for me, i need something that i can move in without it interfering with my movement or where I have to do a ton of adjustments
1M?? Congratuverylations! So many of us getting some actual historical education, it makes my li'l Ravenclaw heart soar
As a full-busted woman, this “corset” would be nice if doing something that includes bouncing or arm movements. Even with the best sports bras can use some help in keeping the girls in line. I’d be interested to see what size this garment goes up to.
Exactly. I had 2 classmates who had to wear sport bras with a normal bra for daily life cause our school had hella stairs and a lot of our classes were in different places in the school. I have C-D tits so its not a big struggle and i can go bra free except for excersize. Even if this causes some awkward incidents sometimes: going out of malls into the cold, general cold outside, being perked up because of chaffing😂 we breastowners know the struggle i think
It's just a fashion top, adidas doesn't intend or advertise this as sportswear.
I was thinking that too.
I wonder if the Adidas "corset" design could be modified to use as a binder for those who need one. I've seen some experiments with modifying historical-style corset patterns for flattening. The boning could reduce the amount of pressure needed (and thus rib pain) while the stretch fabric would allow easy breathing
Bernadette. I have so missed seeing you the last few weeks!!!!! I am so glad to see you healthy and moving around. I am going to miss this apartment of yours. I love the light that you get from the windows as well as the high ceilings. I look forward to seeing your your new sewing room. I very much look forward to your videos, especially the sewing ones. However, seeing this one on sport corsets was really interesting. Please consider creating your own Victorian sport corset as a comparison video. I’d like to see how you create one, alter this commercial one and then how they compare. Oh! Please also give a full scale tour of your new sewing room. I hope it has as much natural light. 😃🤗😃
I truly love how clearly, precise, and proper you speak in your videos. Good luck on your move!
Bernadette: this is a single layer corset
Me (somehow): all the single layers, all the single layers, all the single layers
Bwahahaha
🤣
Lmao 🤣
^this!
When a layperson talks about corsets, they generally are talking about once of two things. Either the media's portrayal of painful tight lacing, or modern corset look alikes. The people who talk about the look alikes often have no idea that they are really not corsets.
Reserving judgment about the "corset" part since you've articulated it so well and I, as a plus-sized lady, would find it utterly useless for my overabundance and bad back. Instead, I'd like to comment that I shall be sad that you have moved because one of the joys of your videos is the lovely view of New York from your marvelous floor-to-ceiling windows. Wishing you a Happy New Year and joy in your new place. Please keep us updated with the move, the settling in, and how you plan to turn it into your new video and makers' studio.
re: stitch reinforcement, bartacks at the ends of bones are standard modern practise, and you can find them holding bones down the side seams of bras too, if they have bones!
Yeah it looked pretty simple, boning is found in a lot of garments (eg bras, formal and cocktail dresses) these days so you wouldn't have to know about corset construction or historical garments in order to know you have to keep bones from moving around.
I'm glad she made that note, though. I've had trouble with my hand-stitched face masks losing their pipe cleaners in the wash (the pipe cleaners are stitched into a little channel horizontally over the nose, to try and prevent gaping). I'm a complete novice who's now excited to learn about decorative stitch reinforcement and how it might help me in my own project!
I noticed that bras sometimes have some kind of featherweight fluffy boning. Underwire is considered boning too.
@@AshHeaven underwire is the bane of my existence
Your moving means we get another sewing room decorating / designing video? Yeah to that!
Hopefully she doesn’t have to rebuild that bookcase!
I love how you call "going out" an "adventure". Really makes me feel like a character from a book.
I feel like I love these as a *concept* - I'm all about mixing vintage and modern pieces in my outfits. And if the popularity of these means I can wear stays over a blouse and no one will look at me weird, I'm all for it🤷♀️
Me too at first I was having mixed feelings but it gives me a reason to attempt historically adequate stays. ∠( ˙-˙ )／✧
@@makeda6530 Stays are actually relatively simple. In that there are only a few pattern pieces (like 2 per side for early pieces). As long as you can deal with the tedium of sewing all the channels for the boning, and the binding of any tabs can be tricky (but there are plenty of free guides out there for binding tabs neatly). So its time consuming, but not hugely difficult in the spectrum of corset-type garments. Depending on the era you want, there is even an elizabethan stays pattern generator online which you pop your measurements into and it just drafts the pattern for you and you just need to print it out.
Definitely worth giving it a go if you are interested. Don't need a machine either (since they initially weren't made with them). But if you have one and don't care about the accuracy... that'll save some time. Good luck with it! You can do it!
Bernadette moving out of the USA feels like a close friend moving away. It’s for the best, but it’s bittersweet all the same.
why is she moving?
I know, I feel like, why didn't she tell me?? And then remember that I just *feel* like she is my friend, but she has no idea who I am... I'm piecing together, and feeling creepy typing it, that she is moving to England because of an IG post? Was there ever an official announcement?
Wait where is she moving?
@@dragoncat3499 England
@@wetbread6757 Oh wow really? Thanks for letting me know
happy for Bernadette because she is moving, sad I will never run into her in the garment district when the world opens back up
did she say where she was moving? also, yay for adventure!
@@newtkeeper the UK! She showed off her visa in one of those not a video, picture with text things that I can never find back. It's in your YT newsfeed, I think?
@@mirjanbouma It's on her Instagram.
@@rosettagrey2851 that was it!
I mean, I've heard that fashion is cyclical but I have to admit that I wasn't exactly expecting _this_
My first thought as a larger woman is that front boning would be great to hold my gut in place and make moving around more comfy 😅 if it did have the supportiveness of a sports bra, that would be a great option for the more jiggly folk!
Since it only comes up to size L with a bust of 35inches/95cm, this is not an experiment we can conduct.
@@TeylaDex oh that figures. Even when I was “average” weight I was still a 36 bust. This really is made solely for skinny aesthetics isn’t it |:(
@@SwitchelSweets surely is. Because they exactly know, as with their sports bras, as soon as there is actually something that needs holding in place, their shit is useless.
Once again, companies making clothes for aesthetics instead of the human body..
@@marisp2588 shouldnt we be used to that by now?
Comments help creators I heard so I like to help :) I could listen to you all day Bernadette, your choice of words and phrasing is just pleasing to my ears allways! Keep doing this youtube thing, I love any video you create!
Gosh i saw that too and thought instantly " no way in HELL this does anything"