Labor Time Per Knife - Making a Batch of 4 Knives
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 พ.ย. 2019
- I get asked all the time how long it takes to make a knife! Well... here you go. This video goes though the process of making a batch of knives. You'll see some of my strategies on how to working on multiple knives at once!
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Anyone else work in Batches?! Any suggestions?
JKeetonKnives I’ve only done a batch one time. It definitely saved an enormous amount of time. As a hobby knife builder I will probably not be doing a lot of batches. I have never sold a single knife yet. (Ugh) I have no idea how to sell. I better learn soon if I want we er make a living at this.
@@e.t.preppin7084 My opinion is you start with friends and family and rock bottom prices... They can be your beta testers.
When I batch work I rough cut out with the bandsaw then mark out one for the pin holes clamp a stack of 6 together and drill the pin holes,
Then I stack them together and bolt through the holes and profile grind all 6 at once that ensures that all are profiled the same.
I should add that my pattern is tapped for the bolts and is hardened so I use the pattern as a grinding pattern.
Al Meyer I like that! Will need to try something like this out!
@@e.t.preppin7084 As a fellow hobbyist, I too have toyed with the idea of knifemaking as a retirement business. I have sold quite a few knives, but I soon realized that if I made a business out of this hobby, I would lose the joy it brings to my life. This I found to be especially true when I make a true "custom" knife to my customer's specifications. Most customers, so I have learned, generally don't know what they want unless they are able to see and hold a finished knife in their hands. I refuse to make commissioned custom knives any more, unless it is one just like one of my previously made knives. I am now getting into forging more often than not, and forging duplicate "batch" knives is much more difficult than stock removal.
So basically a work day per knife. If you do them in batches. That explains why it takes me a week to build one knife in the part time when I have time to work on it. 😂. Very informative J as I would expect from you. Thanks. That’s extremely valuable information you just shared. Not many maker’s would be willing to share that information with us. 👍
Thanks man, I figured other makers would find this interesting. Working in batches really helps cut the time down. To be honest I generally like working in batches of 2 or 3. I feel it's more of a mental challenge to work in batches of 4 plus... not quite there yet in my head.
5.4 hours per knife, is 8.1 hours per 1 1/2 knives. That's three knives in 2 work days.
I was just thinking about this today 😂
I had the same problem with the band saw. I ended up cutting a top piece made from hardboard (you can get it at Home Depot or lows) and it acts as a zero clearance insert. seems to work very well. Just a thought 🙂
Another quality video 👍👍👍👍
OUTDOORS55 thank you sir! And thanks for watching. I’ve seen your videos with that piece of hardpoard; a very good idea! Cheers man. 🙌
People complain about buying custom build, handmade knives all the time with me. Mirror finishes and all that jazz, what they fail to realize is the amount on man hours that go into hand making a knife that is forged or done via stock removal, and not machined in a factory. More hours equals more money, plain and simple. Great vid brother, cheers.
Thanks man, that's the truth. They take time! And constant attention to detail!
Great video J! I love the timing portion. Shows just how much time goes into this craft. You sir are the real deal. Thanks again, always learn something new.
House / Work dude thanks for the love. I really appreciate you stopping by to watch; I figured some would like to know how much time actually goes into a knife if you batch. Thanks for your videos too! I lean a ton from them
Always good to see how other people work. Great insight into batch processing.
Thank you sir! Appreciate the comment.
I like your attention to detail and the amount of work you put into these videos and knives is incredible. I'd love to carry one of your knives some day.
Hey man, really appreciate your comment! Cheers sir!
Brilliant video. Very informative and beautiful looking knives at the end. I’ll defo be checking out all your other tutorials and I’ve subscribed. 👏👏
Thank you very much Gaz! Really glad you enjoyed the video!
Super job. So much info in a common sense format. Great video graphics Thank you.
Rich
Glad it was helpful!
Awesome knives. Nice detailed instructions too, it helps a lot to better understand your video. Keep it up.👍👍👍
Thank you very much! It takes a little effort to get them cohesive! Glad you like them. Cheers
Hobby knifemaker here and I do try to work in batches as well but mainly so I can practice bevels without going for days at a time without doing one. I dont sell my knives, just making for me. Found so many cool tips and tricks in this vid, notably the block used for the handle ends, using a hard block for sanding with the pins (I noticed the bumps in my knives) and the tumbler assembly to the 2x72 (currently, I just shake the piss out of it). Great informative vid. Well done!
Heck yeah sir! Thanks for your comment. I'm really glad you found some use out of this video! Have a great weekend in the shop!
Dont know, if its just me, but the knife with the wooden handle is on completly different level than the other 2 with G10.
Great work you did there
Thanks David!
Awesome work!! Dude the flex test kills me every time 😳😎👍
Thank you sir! Sorry for the late reply here. The flex test kills me too, but hey it needs to be done. Gives me confidence in my product and helps me sleep at night! 😂
Iv been waiting for someone to do a video bout things like this, and you talk in your videos so the instantly made me subscribe, TH-cam recommend you to me🤘
Thank you sir! I hope to have more good content coming your way! Like all of us I'm still learning the craft. What I learn, I'll do my best to pass on! Cheers man.
Great video! I always do heat treating in big batches. Especially when using stainless. Saves alot of time and money on dry ice. Keep it up!
Fredrik Spåre Heck yeah! It really saves time during the heat treat (both with the forge and also tempering). Thanks for watching! Glad you liked it
@7:30. I work with one of those in my front pocket. I worry about getting it dusty but it has not been a problem yet. Thanks for the vid.
Cheers sir!
Knives look awesome. Great tutorial with tine spent on each process. Very good idea of video on grinds i would love to see it.👍
Thank you! and Thanks for watching. Glad you enjoyed it!
As always outstanding video, I keep learning more with you. 👍
Thank you sir! And thanks for watching!
Another great job thanks from Florida
Thanks for watching!
I like the time for each operation per knife, that got me to subscribe.
Hey Russell, I appreciate that! Thanks for watching!
Great information...and great looking knives!
Thanks Wade!
Great video, love your work.
Thank you very much!
quality video. and people always complain about the price of custom knives. they have no idea the process.
Thank you sir! Yes it does take some tender love and care for each one to come out to a high enough standard. I'm not a full time maker so the process shown here was over the course of about 5 days... working when I had the time.
Lots of teaching,as I have little knowledge but nuts , Seems like your video is great Sir Thanks
Thanks! Really glad you liked the video. Cheers man.
Great video. Well done. I am a new knife maker and really enjoyed how you explained the steps. New subscriber. Thanks
Cheers man! Thanks for subscribing! I'm really happy you enjoyed the video! Good luck with your knives!
PERFECT CONGRATULATIONS
Thank you|!
You make awesome knives!
Thank you very much!
That was one tuff knife. Great job 👍!
Thanks! Tough enough for its intended purpose! That’s for sure. Thanks for watching!
Молодец!!! Отличная работа👍👍👍
Спасибо!
Great video and love the time breakdown. People don’t realize the time that goes into the craft. Love your comments on the jig and I agree and learned freehand the same way. Did I see the grinder cranked to 100% during rough grinding?
Yeah man! 100%. I was reading on bladeforums and realized I needed to up my game and speed! Thanks for commenting and watching. Glad you liked it!
Great video James! BTW, I will never, ever do that to my JKeeton knife 😁
Hah! Thank you very much sir! I'd appreciate if you didn't! Very brutal... I like putting one though that pain every once and a while to make sure they could handle some abuse! Happy Veterans day too!... One day in advance.
I hate when pieces fall into the bandsaw, no matter how careful, it's bound to happen at some point. Ya know, instead of a punch, you might wanna try a centering bit(like on a lathe) I raced my friend & it was close, but especially for multiple knives, once the bit is setup it's real quick... Yeah, I definitely suggest for every 2 jig knives, do 1 freehand or at least practice... Ya might wanna try straightening during 2nd temper, basically what you did in the vise, but with a piece of steel a few washers & a clamp... Just a few ideas, but we all have our own ways that are faster... Hope all is well, take it easy...
Dave Evader Knives cheers man! I have a centering but, need to try that out. I use the clamp method sometimes. Doesn’t alwAys get me where I want to be though. Thanks for your thoughts!
Good stuff...
great video on batch work. I usally try to do at least 3 knives at a time to make the most of my time as well. I found that if I do more than 6 though it just feels like it drags on the time but that could just be me lol. kinda surprise you dont have a buffer
I'm right there with you man... over 3 or 4 and I get bored. I'm going to need a little variable speed buffer for sure down the road. Thanks for watching and thanks for your comment, sir!
очень крутая работа !
Спасибо!
You mentioned decarb occurring during heat treatment.
To eliminate decarb I have found applying a thin coat of satinite over the surface eliminates about 90% and takes only a few minutes. I mix the satinite cement thin enough to apply with a brush. This creates an oxygen free environment on the steel surface but does not inhibit a fast quench.
Good tip Curtis, I've heard from others this works fairly well!
Great job!!! Nice looking knives!!! I’m at 16hrs a knife but you don’t have any of your equipment . But that’s ok .. lol. Have a great day!
But I don’t have your equipment hahaha typo!!!
Heck yeah man. It's taken me a while to get the speed up. The equipment makes it easier for sure. Cheers man, keep it up!
Отличная работа)) братуха
Какая цена на данный нож?
Большое спасибо!
In addition I've had success with (now dont laugh) using ca glue to adhere as many as 6 batch blades together and profile and drill them in a stack. Not only a huge time saver but because they are exactly identical, drilling and fitting scales is a snap!
Pretty good idea man! Talk about getting repeatable results! CA glue comes in handy
Hi my friend!! Very nice job!!! I have a doubt. Why do you normalized before quench if is virgin steel???? Thanks a lot.
I'd say it's not necessary, just a precaution if there are stresses in the steel. Doesn't add much time so I normally do it out of habbit.
Ok i understand!!! Thanks a lot!!! Here in Spain, i dont find 1075 or 1084 steel. I found O1 steel for good price, about 9usd a piece for 1 knife. Have you worked with O1??? Can you tell me the best HT for O1??? Thanks a lot!!!!
Did you build the frame the holds your bauer bandsaw upright or where did you get that?
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I like that lamp which is Led I assume. Can you tell me where you got that one? Thanks for showing us your processes.
Yes sir I use an LED bulb in it. Here is the link - amzn.to/2VG0Eax
@@RedBeardOps thx for the link!
Hello. Thank you for a video. What price starts your knives?
Hey Evgeny, feel free to follow me on instagram @RedBeardOps. I put a knife up for sale on there from time to time. Cheers!
👍👍👍OK
Yep, outdoors suggestion is on the money. Also, and you're not the only culprit, maybe done for better visibility, but PLEASE lower the bandsaw blade guide, doing so protects you, and of course use a push stick ... you don't want to slip and push your thumbs through the blade. Although I wear safety glasses, I also like to wear a clear face shield ... why? It's not just your eyes you protect, it's your face and when you're looking down, your throat too. Limbs, eyes etc are not something you risk. A friend had gone to his father's place, where he made a knife, and in the process, the knife flipped out of his hand and stabbed himself under the chin on the right side, severing an artery ... his mum, a nurse, reached in and pinched the artery until they got to a hospital ... apparently he had no blood pressure when he was wheeled into surgery. Very lucky and of course he brags about his sabre scar ... a bit of a comic, but you get the picture. Other than that, grateful for a cool video.
Have a great day!
What thickness is the handle material before you start grinding?
I’m using 1/4” handle material here. Thanks for watching 👍
Hola amigo, podrías hacer un video del soporte de tu cortadora de cinta, tengo una igual y me gustaría ver cómo lo hiciste tu.
De antemano gracias.
Un saludo desde Ecatepec, México 🇲🇽
¿Podría darme la marca de tiempo en el video? No estoy seguro de qué tema estás hablando
@@RedBeardOps
0:54, en mexico esta herramienta se llama sierra cinta, es con la que cortad el acero. Me gustaria ver como la instalaste en esa posicion y como hiciste la base para apoyarte en los cortes
@@adrianhernandez974 I see!
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Gracias por tu tiempo para responderme.
Saludos
Great video! Where in Texas are you based?
Thanks man. On the Western side of the state. Cheers
@@RedBeardOps cheers! 👊
Would please for links to New Jersey metal supplier and the supplier for Corby, and so on
Cheers. Pops - pops-knife-supply.myshopify.com/ NJSB - newjerseysteelbaron.com/ Alpha is good for steel too www.alphaknifesupply.com/shop/
J would you give me a buy list of belts you use and where to get them on a silver platter. I understand that is a lot to ask but I’m asking anyways. I know everyone uses different belts but I trust what you use obviously works regardless of others. Thanks. If you have time to relay that information. I have the cork belts and the scotch brite belts. Mainly your ceramics and what grits.
For sure, so I get belts from two different places depending on what I'm ordering (TruGrit and Pops). In both cases I get the VSM ceramic belts since they're cheap. Normally I get the VSM ceramics in 60 grit and this is what I do my roughing with. I then move to 120 grit j-flex belts. I like the green ones made in Germany (trugrit.com/product/2-x-72-120jf-caao-aluminum-oxide/). I use the 120 grit j-flex to smooth out the 60 grit lines then get my plunges radius-ed and close to where I want them. THEN I heat treat. After that I clean it all up with another 120 grit belt, then 200 grit belt. Sometimes I go to a 400 after that and cork. Other times I scotch brite the 220 grit finish and stone wash.
Thanks so much for the belt information as well as your use explanation.
What micron belts do you use 45 or 74
Also are your 220 and 400 belts also jflex
@@e.t.preppin7084 Yep, 200 and 400 are J-flex green belts from Germany. I don't use any micron belts.
Which tape should I buy for knife making? I wanna buy some quality tape but don’t know what’ll be best?
Well this is a good question. I've been using the green masking tape, but have contemplated trying some blue 3M from the store. I think most masking tapes will get the job done. If you plan on using masking tape make sure to oil your high carbon blade first! Also avoid leaving the tape on the blade for extended periods of time (1 week+). There is a tendency for moisture to collect and rust your blade. Cheers sir!
Red Beard Ops Sweet, thanks for your reply and guidance. Keep up the great work
I’m wondering: why don’t you just get a cold stamp for your makers mark rather than the DIY etching machine?
I feel like I have more control with the electro chemical etching
After your drill the holes, I see you take a cordless drill and do something, what is that and what bit are you using?
Here you are sir! - Counter Sink Bits - amzn.to/2Q7es9W - They remove the bur and chamfer the edge
@@RedBeardOps omg that’s what it is lol, thank you! Man you should see my shop, I’ll post some pics on my Instagram and send you some too. Things are shaping up. I built a Venturi forge and everything. Got a nice bandsaw too, next will be a 72in grinder eventually. Now to get my own channel started. >.
@@RedBeardOps also, I hope that is an affiliated link, since I ordered it, lol. =P
@@austinscuttingedge9998 Cool deal man! Yeah it was. I keep them all saved so I can look up items quick! Cheers sir
Can you do batch knives with several different designs?
You could for sure. It is easier with all the same designs though. Cheers!
Does the 5.41 hours per knife match how long it takes you to do one knife?
I would say no. I'll time my next one off knife, but I'm very confident that it will take longer. A good portion of the time is a "fixed time" that consist of setting up the operation. Once you have things set up say for drilling, glue up, etching, tumbling, grinding, etc; you can save a significant amount of time per knife by running though that operation on all of them.
So the SET UP is a "fixed time" and the OPERATION is a "variable time" per knife in the batch.
@@RedBeardOps That's what I was thinking would be the case too. I've been doing one offs....might be time to design a knife I like to make and do some batches.
I'm trying to get into knife making I could use some tips
Hey Joe, this is the place to start - th-cam.com/video/nk7vu2RYxvI/w-d-xo.html - Cheers
@@RedBeardOps thanks so much how much was your grinder and ban saw
Do you make knives to sell and if so how would someone go about purchasing one ? web site ?
I put them up on Instagram from time to time. Thank you sir!
@@RedBeardOps oh ok, I don't do Instagram. Really nice knives you make though.
👌👌👌
Thank you!
Sehr gerne
@@klausgregor8776 Wirklich dankbar, dass Sie vorbeischauen. Prost nach Deutschland aus den USA!
Österreich mein Freund!. Aber sonst muss ich sagen geile messer. Ich mach auch ab u. Zu mal eines. Aber net so cool
@@klausgregor8776 Haha, tut mir leid, dass ich das falsch verstanden habe! Prost
Just saying but you are my goto
Thank you! Really glad you enjoyed the video sir!
what type of belt grinder do you have?
Hey Sam, I'm using one of these. Cheers sir - kadrmaskreations.com/
@@RedBeardOps thanks that helps a lot
Had a vsm ceramic 240 grit. That damn belt wouldn't track straight to save its life
Sorry to hear that man!
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How can I buy one of your knives?
Hey Chris, I put one up on Instagram from time to time, but you can also send me an email at redbeardops@gmail.com
Хороший бизнес! Ножи отличные. Я думал ты его согнешь, а он не гнется :) Но потом он все равно сломался. Чудес не бывает. С дуру можно и хер сломать.
Спасибо, рад, что вам понравилось!
looked like a bug tried to get you at O:18
LOL
My favorite part was when he made 4 knives
lol, glad you liked it!
Free handing bevels on a belt grinder isn't easy
Man that's the truth. It takes some serious practice and I still mess it up from time to time
I wanna be a knife maker so I can get chicks
Dude, it works. You're in it for the right reasons 100% ;)