Detach from the #1 economy of the world...? Yeah not happening lol. I don't think we should expect Americans to put European interests over US interest just as Americans know the EU won't put American interest over European interests.
No. Time for Europe to end its reliance on the US (something it should have done decades ago) and for the UK to get out of America's backside, and stop pretending it isn't part of Europe.
@@RonaldMcminn-g7d I do not necessarily think that OP did not understand Brexit as much as they think it was in hindsight wrong, possibly due to considerable changes in circumstances. Whether that is in any way desirable or has any chance of coming true is open though.
Which is why we need change,My biggest concern is how we can survive this whole financial and political crisis, especially given the political power struggle right now. The government has really made things harder for its citizens and we cannot stand by and accept all the consequences of poor governance.
The UK government should support as well...I'm glad you made this comment. I can remember the time when I faced many problems in life until thousands of euros came in every two weeks and transformed to a different life that has good to offer!
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It's good for the EU to be chucked into the water and learn to swim for itself again ngl. Whether it is military or economy, it's good to try to become a bit of a global power again
@@illitaret8780 more like EU should just stand and laugh at america if north korea, china and russia and iran turn their back on america and we just stand there and do nothing. You really want us from EU stand on our own which we do but dont expect us to help you later or even allow you as an american step on our land then when that time comes america gonna ask all alliance to help them. So dont expect us to help if that comes which you never know when it comes to north korea, russia iran and china they WANT AMERICA gone more then they want EU gone so if it become WW3 america gonna be proberly the first country gone so dont think as an EU memeber we gonna help your ass you are on your own if america pushing EU and nato away which america aint gonna have a change alone against both russia, north korea china and iran together
as a swedish we dont do that! we have been naturel for over 200 years xD we could be a powerhouse if we wanted to but we choosed to be friends with everyone and drop our military alot and our spending. We did own half of EU way way back like 200-300 years ago but like i said we choose to be natruel to everyone and sold and gave away alot of our own land to like danmark and few other contry! so you should really learn your own history haha
Threats from all side? Hmmm... So us Americans telling you to keep up your military spending on the agreed terms of 2% GDP is a threat to you? It sounds like your undermining us. We want competent allies and not cannon fodders. If you can't protect yourself that's on you and your leader. Stop being a freeloading moron and calling us bigots because you choose an incompetent leader who fails to step up their military defense spending.
Considering that the EU still the second largest defense spender and second largest consumer market, we are capable to do it. If we will do it, it’s another question
most of the eastern NATO members already spend 2% of their GDP on defense. it can be done, even sweden spends 2.2% of gdp on defense, and is the poster child of social democracy. the EU could definitely stand on its own without the US. the question is absolutely if they will, or if you guys need some more sense beaten into you to do so.
@@nathaniel1207 For the EU to stand on its own would require countries to be prepared to send their citizens to die to protect the lives of people in other countries. Since Europe couldn't manage this during the Balkans war forcing a country halfway around the world to get involved, this is just wishful thinking.
@@pojkkaadaboi-tp7dv a decent start, but getting to 1.9%-2.1% would be great, its really hard to get the furthest NATO members to spend more on defense, when theres no threat on your border.
@@Carthodon Wishful yes, but it needs to happen. otherwise europe will have a very dark future ahead of it. no one said a european army would be an easy thing to make.
No the Anglospere should unite free trade and free movement between canzuk and USA. Strick immigration from outside it demanding skills , money and cultural compatibility or no entry.
What resources? The resources came from Russia lol mainland Europe is uniquely barren of most resources needed in modern industrial developments, all Europe has is ownership of foreign countries' resources through historical colonial exploitation and it's remnants
It's not a choice. They want US to provide them help while they use their money on domestic policies. They cannot go back now on any of it and are basically struck as any cut in welfare will cause revolt and overthrow from their current electorate. They will never be a military superpower ever again.
Yeah, it's 100% a choice. And it's a good one when facing peace. But let's also not forget that there's a major limiting factor with germany. Our military, per constitution, is not allowed to perform military campaigns. The biggest power in the EU purposely chose to forbid itself the option of war. Unless we change that, the EU won't either. And it ain't gonna happen anytime soon, since Lindner just blew up our government, if at all. We kinda have a good reason not to.
I dont think the EU acting like a single military power with projection ability like the US is attainable without (too much) sovereignty transfer and bureaucracy. But then, we dont really need that, we need to have a common understanding of our regional defense needs and a fair and practiceable distribution of the jobs inside it.
The EU NEEDS to detach itself from relying on the US before it drags us down into the gutter with it. 1) We MUST unify our defense systems, we are stronger together AND despite the cultural differences war between its members is unthinkable. 2) It MUST become technologically self sufficient. Draghi was correct in his analysis and now it's twice as important we follow it. We need to produce our own medicine , digital technology, telecommunications and weapons. In fact the two fields we ABSOLUTELY cannot afford to not have a lead in are medical technology (if the EU remains in its trailing position in regenerative medicine, bionics, anti-aging, bioprinting and gene therapy technologies our medical system will collapse under its own weight as abti democratic regimes could use access to it as a wedge to control our politics) and our weapons technology. In both cases we need an organized, common, EU driven, organized and funded initiative with clear and ambitious goals, serious funding and tight timelines. 3) We NEED to unify our defense. Let us not be stupid, we're not going to go to war with each other, but the threats from outside are not something we can play with as small divided militaries with unbalanced budgets, personnel, weapons, etc. Together we are unassailable, divided we are snacks. 4) The US's upcoming descent into madness will cause a lot of people to flee. This is the chance for the EU to get A LOT of highly educated, motivated and determined people to join it who will hold democratic values that will aid us in not only upholding ours but making us a global superpower that can be the world's stabilizing force through sheer technological and cultural influence. We must have a system in place within WEEKS to accept them, help them settle and gain citizenship fast. 5) The EU must immediately form plans to federalize. If Hungary is in the way we should kick it out. We don't have the time to afford to play stupid games anymore. This is not a time where we can squabble like children. We either unite as brothers and sisters into a whole greater than the sum of its parts or we will fall. 6) Nuclear energy. We must embrace it ASAP This process will need a lot of energy, renewables may be nice and have use cases, but let's be honest, we NEED to become the people who harness the greatest amount of high desity possible to power a re-industrialization in all high tech sectors.
I believe this could be historic moment for Europe to cut the cord and stand on their own legs without U.S. holding their hands. This could be Europe great opportunity it won’t be easy but it could be historic moment if they at least try.
@@Trickaz94As an American that is what we want, Europe needs to find strength within itself. As a taxpayers we are tired of paying for our bloated military.
Not only is it him; more than 30 years ago, the EU was formed, and Europe has not been able to become independent in any aspect. In comparison, China has managed to achieve this in under 30 years of development. It’s time for a change now.
Yeah, are Siemens and BMW and SAP ready to be treated like Huawei?... Are EU governments ready to be treated like CCP is treated, with an endless barrage of negative media narrative and meddling?
We've had 4 years under a senile old fart who nearly brought us to ww3 on multiple occasions. Ill take the guy that started no new wars any day over the alternative.
I like the videos but man the sponsor sections are getting longer each month it feels like.. Its nice that you guys get the bag but the length of the sponsors is getting quite annoying.
What are you talking about..... there was only one sponsor section, and it was at the end of the video.... if you're talking about the TH-cam ads, those are shown by TH-cam.
Say what you want about the man (and there is a lot to be said), but he's 100% right that it's a disgrace that some NATO members are not contributing the agreed amount.
Its hard for me to get how Europeans are so pissed that they are being pressed to follow the treaty they signed decades ago. this is a late rent payment come due, and if you cant pay your rent, you get evicted.
That's true,but then he said he'd let russia invade those countries,but russia would have to go through countries that pay 2% or more to get to those 😂
but it's not contributing, that's the big lie that keeps getting told. the 2% target is what member are supposed to spend on THEIR OWN military, and it's a gentlemen's agreement not even a real rule. no matter if France spends 0% or 100% on defense the rest of NATO won't feel any of it (expect for the US where most of that defense budget would be spend to buy stuff). the 2% is a guideline to have a simple target of what amount of defense spending keeps your military in a healthy condition, nothing more.
Dont disagree but not going hard against RUSSIA doing imperialism and violent expansion is a way bigger disgrace to NATO than not being fully commited to financial obligations. So we should take the critique of someone like that way less seriously than someone less hypocritical and actually being comitted to the dignity of NATO
But they won't. Their entire politics is built around the assumption of dependence on the US. Do you see European countries ever being militarily strong in your lifetime? I know it's a hypothetical that you're suggesting. Just saying that any attempt to shrug off dependence on the US will fundamentally change the face of European politics. The people who want Europe to be independent of the US are the politicians that most Europeans are afraid of.
thats not true, having a strong Europe only benefits the US. We get to focus more attention in Asia which is the future. we save money. and having a strong Europe would be great for american manufacturing and tech since europeans are already rich. plus, europe can now take on more burdens that the US takes now, like foreign aid to poor countries and other stuff.
@@jonbolton491 but wouldn't you say there's now a president that now pushes exactly for European autonomy? Which in the long run will not benefit the US. US hegemony and being the primary currency comes with a price.
@@jonbolton491 Thats total horse shht. Firstly, Russia can't even get past the border regions of Ukraine. Leaving that aside there are plenty of EU countries which are, or very soon will be, militarily strong. Finland has been stockpiling since the 50's. It wasn't Russias good nature which prevented them being invaded in all those decades. It was their insane defense infrastructure (50,000 nuclear resistant bunkers) and national service reserve of 850k reserves. France is also militarily strong and nuclear. With nuclear UK on par with France. Poland in in the imminent process of a huge procurement process. And Germany is doing the same as Poland, albeit more slowly. What is this 'independent of the US' presumption anyway. Why exactly do we need the US post 1980, I think thats where most Americans are stuck. 1980. Who exactly is going to threaten Europe? The guys who've spent 1000 days to get less than half way to Kiev? Poland, Sweden, Germany can develop nukes tomorrow if need be. Who's going to stop them.
You're leaders is too busy approving radical asylum seekers. Imagine those Palestinian flags keeps waving on your streets while trampling on your nation's flag. I hope your people would wake up.
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings as far as i know, an israeli arab judge of the supreme court of israel sent an israeli president to jail. arab israelis are mayors and councils members in arab majority towns and cities. arab israelis have israeli citizenship, have seats and parties in the knesset, held ministry roles, participated in government coalitions, and so on. israeli arabs hold positions in all professional fields and are significantly present in the medical field and have leadership position. idk, its hard to define it and apartheid tbh.
Mind Begs the Question: ▪︎Those who support a State that practice ▪︎Superior Race ideology,Dehumanization,Starvation,Gassing (White Phosphorus),Concentration Camps,Pogroms,Ethnic Cleansing,etc ▪︎Must be - Free or Jailed?
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings mind begs the question: why all the brothers around can't take them and take care of them? Why do they persist with war when they will never stand a chance of getting anywhere? Why are they radically determined to end the state of israel at all cost? Why do they hate the jews more than they love thier kids whom they gladly, dancing, sacrifice as martyrs? And so on and so forth.
It's time for Europe to step up its game. We must become more united and independent. Militarily and economicly. The threats are coming from all sides now. We have to protect ourselves.
@@johndurham6172 Well in my world it could, but I don't know what Poetin wants to do when they would become part of it. They can not just decide to dominate it, it has to be a unity and all countries have to have say in it.
The EU is too complacent and slow in responding to world events. For example, the EU has no strategy for the Ukraine conflict, other than keep sending weapons and billions of euros to Ukraine... and then what? For how long? It's been several years. Ukraine is not going to win against a country 20 times its size. There needs to be a different approach.
@@MVUK358 personally, I think that the recent developments in military between Poland, France, and Germany will be the begging of a new era for the eu, especially in terms of military
It will be good in the same way Ukraine was good for the EU. Meaning it will force us to get our shit together and move towards a more united union instead of a burocratic nightmare
I agree on the first part, but not the Burocratic nightmare. Especially Brexit has shown how much easier it makes trading inside the single market and how well organized the EU is. Yes, it has a big Burocratic system, but that's more the result of being responsible for such a big block. But for its size, I doubt that there was ever a more efficient bureaucracy ever.
A second Trump presidency could, paradoxically, be precisely the catalyst the European Union needs to advance toward federalization. The likely shift to a more transactional and inward-looking U.S. foreign policy under Trump would challenge Europe’s traditional reliance on the American security umbrella and expose vulnerabilities in the EU’s fragmented approach to international affairs. In a world of multipolar power dynamics, a divided Europe risks strategic marginalization; thus, the urgency for a cohesive, federalized response has rarely been so acute. Historically, Trump’s “America First” stance revealed the strategic pitfalls of Europe’s dependence on the U.S., prompting European leaders to explore deeper defense, economic, and technological cooperation. A renewed Trump administration could amplify this effect, crystallizing the understanding that Europe must take decisive responsibility for its own security and sovereignty. This scenario underscores the need for a robust European defense policy, an autonomous technological base, and economic policies resilient to the pressures of external shocks. From the perspective of political theory, Trump's influence could represent a form of exogenous pressure-a condition often recognized in politology as a trigger for institutional transformation. Facing this external challenge, European leaders may be compelled to overcome political inertia and address enduring structural constraints that hinder a cohesive policy. The political will to create and sustain a federalized structure may no longer be simply idealistic but rather a functional necessity. In this light, a second Trump presidency might indeed be the necessary “shock to the system”-an impetus to finally push forward the federal project. Under these conditions, Europe could emerge as a self-sufficient actor, resilient in defense, economically autonomous, and diplomatically influential, empowered to safeguard its values and shape its own trajectory on the global stage.
The problem usually was that the US always opposed European Defence integration in favour of NATO and Europe went along with it. Now the US pretends that they were just waiting for EU Defence, which is BS. The US and the EU both were ok with the situation despite critics on both sides. The US has not been a reliable ally for a while now. That’s why Europe should have started this process in 2016. but the next best day to start is today.
Throw the ball back into their court, basically implement tariffs for anything from the US. EU is a bigger consumer market, so if industries face the same amount of tariffs, why would they move to the US? Its time the EU recognise that they are a big player in the world, and not just subservient to the US.
Won't work the US is one nation the EU is just playing like its one Nation. If you're going to implement tariffs then you need to be able to build that industry internally to meet demand. The US can do this but getting all countries within EU to agree is not going to happen.
and add some extra tariffs on goole, facebook and apple stuff, the crown jewels of the US economy. maybe even make a deal with TMSC to prevent the US from using Dutch made chip making machines, so the US will be at least a generation behind in high tech chips. the orange guy and his lackeys didn't even think it through.
EU exports more good to the US then vice versa. Most the export to the US come from Germany, which is a no no for possibly the most powerful EU member.
Dude, the fricking German cars cost more in Europe and they are made here, like the only cost out of the factory is dealer markup & transport. and they are still more expensive. Besides that for Europe the cars are worse than the ones made for america. How the frick did we end up like this ? Not to mention here in europe we talk about global warning like it's the end of the world, but in poor countries we don't even have factories no more. And the laws, my god, they make 0 sense in convincing people, I recycled in the past now I just don't care anymore, the stupid measures are just unbearable and not affecting the real pollution players. Also democracy in poor european countries is a joke. One big joke written poorly where everything works just as we were in a cliche comedy and repeats itself until it becomes tragic.
I came here to comment that I think it means for Europe that it should fly by itself again and stop being so dependent on US economy and politics, but I see everyone else has the same idea, which makes me glad... Europe needs to get its shit together once and for all. We have everything we need: resources, brilliant people, capital, etc It's time for the EU and Europe as a whole to get its pieces running, become independent economically, produce its own clean energy through Nuclear, invest in Fission research, develop its own military complex and become a great superpower, a confederation super state that has all of its smaller states working together in an efficient machine. Fuck all the buerocracy, fuck being nice and especially, fuck depending on others. It's time to tighten that chain and be the superpower Europe used to be by its own merit!
Basicly what happened to Turkey. Turkey could probably never make military drones, diffrent types of missiles, apc's etc mostly domesticly so fast if not for embargos showing the goverment they had to have self sufficent capebilities
Rather than Trump, I'm afraid the rhetoric being run there will be adapted here in Europe. Trump has shown that, even for the president of the USA, words and integrity don't matter anymore.
When it comes to Ukraine I believe the Ukrainian people are not going to give up even if the US decides to give up on them. They will settle for nothing less than absolute security guarantees so Russia can't just take a few years to recuperate and then go back in
I can tell you as an American, the mood in this country to ANY foreign aid is very negative, if not hostile. The American view is now they we spent billions a year on other countries that just hate us anyways, meanwhile; we have a ton of our own problems here.
A lot of people fail to understand that foreign aid is not charity. The US policy makers are not dumb to spend billions for no reason. All that foreign aid is aimed at maintaining a world order that benefits the US more than any other country. Some Americans think that cutting foreign aid would benefit the US, and it's true in the short term; however, in the medium and long term, it will be harmful to the US economy and prosperity. If the US stops foreign aid, one of two things will happen. 1. The countries that were receiving the aid fall, and they're taken over by powers (think Russia, China, Iran, North Korea) that will establish a new world order, one without US hegemony. 2. The countries that were receiving aid continue to survive, but since the US abandoned them, they don't consider the US an ally, and the world becomes more multipolar. Either way, the US becomes less prosperous in the medium and long term. But the blame is not completely on the people, if they are struggling while billions of USD are spent on foreign aid, of course they'd want it to stop. The quality of politics is to be blamed; whoever is elected serves a mere 4 years, they're not gonna be around to deal with what happens in the medium and long term. Sometimes, people don't know what's actually strategically beneficial. Good politicians would not blindly implement populist policies to appease the people, but there is a dearth of good politicians.
Which is understandable, but then don't mess things around in Ukraine or in the Middle East. Europe's economy is in a bad shape without the cheap Russian gas. You guys need to understand we want to mind our business too, not just being vassal States.
and that is your god damn right, yankee! im happy you can make your own decisions, as a german i really wanted this breakup for a while and im happy its happening. We need to be a superpower again and with the eu as friends and partners we can step up to the challenge to create something truly great and not horrifyingly evil even if the price will be steep. This limbo of no agency in the eu has gone on for far too long and we are in need of CHANGE. So thx trump and putin, youre the shock therapy, and good luck to you, have fun in anarchocapitalism!
Macron wants EU reform it won't matter if Trump is the president or not. Stubb will be the "new EU heavyweight" together we will reform EU. I am working on some ideas and have been active on LinkedIn recently.
Peace with Russia is not going to hurt Europe, even if it is not going to be a good agreement for Ukraine. EU defense program should continue and go deeper, and the probability of this happening increased because Trump won. Regarding de-industrialization, EU should find its niche and become better. We need to become the silicone Valley of the world, in my opinion, because we don't have other resources to sell to stay rich.
Not gonna happen, EU is too overregulated, has expensive energy because of lack of resources and it's own stupidity, expensive workforce. Even know-how isn't there anymore. Europe will not reindustrialise, it will deindustrialise even further. In our lifetime Europe will look the same as Africa. And in the near future we may expect continued drop in purchase power of regular people, social and ethnic tensions and general chaos. That's my prediction.
@@MyPrideFlag I agree, although it will probably look a bit more like the post-soviet union and not permanent like Haiti. Poverty, hunger, alcohol and drugs rampant, social unrest but not a complete collapse. We'll get a 'shock' until a new order rises from the EU's ashes.
@@MyPrideFlag We will never look like Africa because we are already built and these buildings will not just randomly fall apart. Neither will our infrastructure. Our leaders aren't that stupid to just let it decline unless they do it on purpose. WE do have resources though. So your predictions are very incorrect to begin with. You don't realize what resources Europe does have. In fact my country has natural gass, but they want to have clean longterm energy. So it can continue with that energy forever. That is what we are trying to do. This is in the end also a way to make ourselves self sufficient. Because some European countries do rely more on China or Russia then others. The expensive energy is not a lack of resources but not willing to use what we have at least in my country because we had cheap gass ourselves. Europe will never let it decline because it will always be able to buy energy from other places because there are lots of places with resources. Expensive workforce is what you need when prices are higher. The only reason why cheap countries are growing is because of their cheap slavery workers and low costs, but that will change in the future like it did in Europe and it in the USA. They will not be able to keep up the growth as they have now either. Adventually everyone needs to pay more and we will see where that leads the world, but the whole world will face the same issues with expensive workforce, lack of birth and chaos at some point in time, but you shouldn't be negative because we already exist for thousands of years and we are still okay so it will be perfectly fine.
Investors care less about foreign politics and more about return on investment. The American market is up because Americans believe Trump will help their investments. People would be silly not to invest in the US if the market is projected to swing upward.
investors like ROI, and the US has a really good buisness policy (letting buisnesses suck their workers dry) and low tax rates. when investors see that, they run to the companies that make it possible
I think this presidency won't be as erratic and unpredictable. JD Vance seems to be the Dick Cheney this time, driving from the back seat and doing what is necessary. Vance, Musk, Thiel essential profesionalised his campaign and helped him avoid many of the stumbling blocks this campaign. On the other hand, regardless of what they do, just the instability of having to anticipate an American reaction will be final push needed for Strategic Autonomy.
President: GOP, Senat: Majority GOP, House: Majority GOP, Supreme Court: Majority GOP. You really think it won't be that bad, without any real check & balances? In what world do you live..
It'll be great for Europe. He can come over for another summit and tell your leaders how to run your countries, and they might actually listen this time.
There is a reason pretty much all economists ever are against tariffs. You are primarily taxing your own people. But people are dumb/dont know how econ works and dont realize tariffs are just another form of tax they have to pay.
We will see about that. How well were we off after WW2 or WW1? not that well right?. War is never good, so we are spending money for something that shouldn't take place to begin with. The best thing we can do is being allies with our neighbor instead of fighting them.
@@-_YouMayFind_- It only works if your neighbors think the same way. Otherwise they will just f... you. The Best way to avoid conflicts is to have a strong army.
Real quick thing for Europeans who might not understand why the US isn’t willing to back Ukraine 110%. We don’t see it as an existential threat. We have our alliance and that’s secure, and Ukraine beating up Russia is just icing on the cake. Very few Americans want to risk getting pulled into another expensive and long term overseas venture. So we are willing to be the bad guys if that means bringing peace to the region.
Just curious, do Americans not realize that the "peace" that comes by letting Russia keeps parts of Ukraine is not going to last? There are valid concerns that Russia will not stop with that; that Russia will, after a few years, take more. Like how Crimea was taken and after a few years this happens. And sure, even if Russia took over the whole of Ukraine, the US won't be under any military threat. But Russia will grow stronger and the US will lose its allies, this will result in a new world order in which the US isn't the leader. And that will surely affect the US, since the US currently benefits from being the leader of the world. Yes, it won't happen overnight, but in 15-20 years the US will lose economically and militarily.
Hopefully cheaper Energy due to the 'drill drill drill' attitude. We need to take advantage of this to build alternative power sourced, preferably nuclear power due to its immense potential.
Why would he sell the energy at cheaper prices? Europe is desperate now and has no alternatives. For a businessman it's the best time to squeeze as much profit as you can
I'm far from being a Trump supproter, but his stance on NATO is totally understandable. If you break the agreement by not paying more than 2% of your GDP towards the defence, why shouldn't US break the agreement by refusing to protect you? What is so shocking about this statement? There are a lot of "freeloaders" in NATO right now (including my own country - Italy) and it's good that Trump is pushing them towards spending more, it's good long term.
2 reasons: most members do pay 2% or more. And there is no written agreement/rules in NATO regarding 2%. So Trump is asking something what is not even signed. The USA also needs to decide does it want the Europe become more separate from the USA and thus potential military rival, or not.
All neighbors to Russia pay 2% tho. So the whole speech and “Russia can do whatever they want” was unnecessary or an indication that the U.S. won’t even help the 2% countries. It’s not like Italy or Luxembourg are the ones getting attacked
so what do the "freeloading" countries get? it's not that they get a chuck of the (insane amount of) money the US spend on it's defense budget. you could argue that they get peace of mind by having the assurance of being protected by the US and so they can spend on other things than defense. but that is assuming the US doesn't get anything in return for being the "shield" of those nations. the US gets to dictate things to it's allies, pressure them to go the way the US wants them to, and pressure them to spend their defense budget on US made stuff. so the US assures safety for those nations and gets money, influence, jobs and more in return for it. seems to be the US has the upper hand in the current situation, and if the US stops being the "shield" they lose all those benefits and won't win anything.
@@neventomicic3301. No one is worried about Europe becoming a military rival. 2. There was an agreement made by all the members in Nato, it however wasn't binding. 3. Most NATO members did not meet the 2% threshold when Trump was President. It was something like the US, France, UK and that was it.
None of Trump's policies make sense. He is going to ruin the US economy, that's why he got so much promotion from state propaganda channels from ditatorships globally.
From an Estonian point of view, im gald this will probably be the spark that will start a formation of an EU army, but im deeply anxious for Ukrainians, he will very likely withdraw all support for Ukraine and let Russia have a field day. And even more anxious that he will become a dictator of the US since there are little to no guard rails stopping him
less than 50% of Estonians know English and 15 % of Estonians only know Estonian and its even worse in many other European countries like Italy or France
The EU must stop relying on the United States since it has made it patently clear that Ukraine is a European problem. Trump will certainly stop supporting Ukraine in the first days of his presidency and the EU will have no choice but to fill the gap. Also, it is likely Trump will pull the United States out of NATO. This shouldn't mean the end of NATO, but it will force Brussels to take the lead. The EU can do this, but it is going to be painful. The question is, is the pain worth saving Ukraine from Russia? One would hope so.
@@lazarus3956 a very optimistic and admittedly perhaps naive hope that Europeans can come together with the knowledge that it will be sandwiched in between an aggressive Russia to the east and a non-interested quasi-ally to the west. The Atlantic ocean will seem wider than ever before.
@@sananp.4718 The problem is that the EU is already behind on pretty much everything; growth is almost absent for all kinds of reasons. To truly become competitive again, we need partners who help us develop. We need cheap energy, huge investments, markets to export to, a technological exchange to catch up to others, better education for more STEM graduates etc. Who will help us? Because clearly we can't do it on our own at this point in time.
@@lazarus3956 I totally agree with your take except your last statement. No one is going to be there to help us except ourselves. The EU will go through more pain before it realises the EU can only rely on its citizens and not the other way around. The EU is a political/geographical body made up of 450 million people, however, over 60% of those only wait for handouts and it's been like since the Marshall Plan. That mentality must stop otherwise we are done. Also, for Christ's sake, Brussels should really take a break on trying to regulate everything under the sun. It is killing innovation.
@ Many EU countries are de-industrializing while relying on the U.S. for military, energy, and space support. They need to face bullies like China and Russia on their own and avoid dragging us into another cold war, especially with Trump's leadership.
I doubt significant manufacturing will move to the US if Trump imposes flat tariffs. Moving manufacturing to the US would mean having to pay to build new production lines, having to pay higher labour costs, and having to pay more for raw materials, while US consumer purchasing power falls anyway, and retaliatory tariffs make it more expensive to sell to the rest of the world. This might give European manufacturers greater incentive to move production to China or Indonesia, but it won't move manufacturing to America.
It's easy, just add a bunch of yellow squares with the letter I (Industry) on it. Then connect it to roads, water, and electricity. After a couple hours, manufacturing will move in and start producing goods if there are enough red squares with the R (residential) letter close enough to commute to it. Oh wait, that's SimCity and not real life. Never mind.
The EU is unlikely to have as much of a response collectively as individual member nations do. Member nations control their own defense budgets. Remember Trump literally wrote a book on his approach to negotiations. He always starts by making unreasonable demands but is willing to negotiate down.
We can't roll the dice every 4 years. Need to be way more self-sufficient, especially in terms of defence. Should have at least made a start 8 years ago.
Sounds like you refered to the first President of the Fifth French Republic as 'de Ghoul!' My favourite comic would then be called 'Asterix the Ghoul' lol😅
Giorgia Meloni has never said anything that was pro trump during the us electoral campaing and remained neutral, she just congratulated with him like every country leader does. I don’t understand why putting her with wielders or orban who were supporting him since before being re elected.
Honestly as a european we needed this wake up call. Him getting elected sooner rather than later is going to push europe to actually learn to defend itselfs instead of burying our heads in the sand
The EU is rich, it should be able to fund a military to defend themselves against a paper tiger like Russia. it's amazing just how much they rely on the USA even for Ukraine which is on their doorstep.
I expect higher trade with china and pain in some industries as tarrifs cut into profits. I expect all funding to be dropped from Ukraine and imf loans to be provided instead.
It's not like you don't have the money for healthcare because you spent too much on military spending, you're just mismanaging your public spending which in case of health care is still incredibly high.
@@mrgalaxy396 this same argument can be made towards Europe and its Military spending. Correct? It’s not like Europe doesn’t have money to better protect itself.
There's a bare minimum expenditure for a member state of NATO. Pay your share of the alliance, don't be weak, there wouldn't be a reason to "abandon" anyone. Finland, a nation who barely has a fraction of population to some European states, would have been able and has been paying for that expenditure without even being in NATO for decades.
Finland, Sweden, Poland, Estonia, Latvia & Lithuania, the UK & Greece are the NATO members in europe that spend >2% of GDP on defense. SWEDEN, a famously social democracy can do it. Europe can have its social democratic cake and eat it too, I genuinely dont understand why so many EU countries cant abide by a treaty THEY signed decades ago (in most cases).
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It's time for EU to be self sufficient. Hard times need to make hard decisions
Russians will make sure this does not happen.
@@camtonyray666Russia isn't even a country anymore 🤣🤣
Acting like the EU isn’t in a bigger mess than ever before 😂
The US wants the EU to continue to be a junior partner.
@@camtonyray666russia is irrelevant to us
It means pain but also the chance to finally detach
Like a toxic relationship, really
And I'm all for it
Detach from the #1 economy of the world...? Yeah not happening lol. I don't think we should expect Americans to put European interests over US interest just as Americans know the EU won't put American interest over European interests.
@@TheSucram729 I'm not sure EU can survive the US sanctions that happen when someone wants to break up with the toxic US relationship
@@zjeee Why not? What do you think "detach" means?
No. Time for Europe to end its reliance on the US (something it should have done decades ago) and for the UK to get out of America's backside, and stop pretending it isn't part of Europe.
WHAT PART OF LEFT THE EU DO U NOT UNDERSTAND.
Brexit is such a meme lmao. Massive failure economically
@RonaldMcminn-g7d You do realise the overwhelming majority of opinion polling data shows that an increasing proportion of brits want to rejoin, right?
@@RonaldMcminn-g7d I do not necessarily think that OP did not understand Brexit as much as they think it was in hindsight wrong, possibly due to considerable changes in circumstances. Whether that is in any way desirable or has any chance of coming true is open though.
The British parliament cares about money for them, not for the people
Which is why we need change,My biggest concern is how we can survive this whole financial and political crisis, especially given the political power struggle right now. The government has really made things harder for its citizens and we cannot stand by and accept all the consequences of poor governance.
The UK government should support as well...I'm glad you made this comment. I can remember the time when I faced many problems in life until thousands of euros came in every two weeks and transformed to a different life that has good to offer!
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It's good for the EU to be chucked into the water and learn to swim for itself again ngl. Whether it is military or economy, it's good to try to become a bit of a global power again
Eh, last few times any part of Europe tried to be a global power it did not end good for anyone involved 🤷🏻♂️😅
@@JakeTiDe What will happen if we all push together...
France failed, britain failed, italy failed, germany failed....
Europe?
@@JakeTiDeI suppose EU should stand by then as China and friends will gladly take the role.
@@Alexander-z6xnothing. Pushing together will intrude on national sovereignty or whatever.
Nvm Orban and Fico, the usual suspects.
@@illitaret8780 more like EU should just stand and laugh at america if north korea, china and russia and iran turn their back on america and we just stand there and do nothing. You really want us from EU stand on our own which we do but dont expect us to help you later or even allow you as an american step on our land then when that time comes america gonna ask all alliance to help them. So dont expect us to help if that comes which you never know when it comes to north korea, russia iran and china they WANT AMERICA gone more then they want EU gone so if it become WW3 america gonna be proberly the first country gone so dont think as an EU memeber we gonna help your ass you are on your own if america pushing EU and nato away which america aint gonna have a change alone against both russia, north korea china and iran together
This is what happens when the world relies economically on one big country.
2 and a half
Usa, china and europe, then india and japan... But we will have issues
Im Japanese, and Japan relies almosy exclusively on USA 😅 at least for investments
We have the safest 75 years in human history and enormous jumps in global living standards, life expectancy....
Cool
as a swedish we dont do that! we have been naturel for over 200 years xD we could be a powerhouse if we wanted to but we choosed to be friends with everyone and drop our military alot and our spending. We did own half of EU way way back like 200-300 years ago but like i said we choose to be natruel to everyone and sold and gave away alot of our own land to like danmark and few other contry! so you should really learn your own history haha
@@kimzeysmith6704 sweden population is small. Sweden can't be a powerhouse if you speak about military power.
Finally Europe can stop being so US centric.
It's time for Europe to unite together against the threats from all sides.
That's a bit antisemitic
What treats?
Threats from all side? Hmmm... So us Americans telling you to keep up your military spending on the agreed terms of 2% GDP is a threat to you? It sounds like your undermining us. We want competent allies and not cannon fodders. If you can't protect yourself that's on you and your leader. Stop being a freeloading moron and calling us bigots because you choose an incompetent leader who fails to step up their military defense spending.
Insinuating the US is a threat is an idiotic take.
@@Cyril_SneerRussia, China and Iran
Considering that the EU still the second largest defense spender and second largest consumer market, we are capable to do it. If we will do it, it’s another question
most of the eastern NATO members already spend 2% of their GDP on defense. it can be done, even sweden spends 2.2% of gdp on defense, and is the poster child of social democracy. the EU could definitely stand on its own without the US. the question is absolutely if they will, or if you guys need some more sense beaten into you to do so.
@@nathaniel1207 For the EU to stand on its own would require countries to be prepared to send their citizens to die to protect the lives of people in other countries. Since Europe couldn't manage this during the Balkans war forcing a country halfway around the world to get involved, this is just wishful thinking.
@@nathaniel1207 With alot of exceptions, my country, Portugal, although Western Europe and both NATO and EU member, only spends 1.4~
@@pojkkaadaboi-tp7dv a decent start, but getting to 1.9%-2.1% would be great, its really hard to get the furthest NATO members to spend more on defense, when theres no threat on your border.
@@Carthodon Wishful yes, but it needs to happen. otherwise europe will have a very dark future ahead of it. no one said a european army would be an easy thing to make.
Time for the UK and EU to start investing back into self and close production of reasources/products.
Said that during Brexit and the remainers laughed it off... strange
CANZUK is the future 🇨🇦 🇦🇺 🇳🇿 🇬🇧
@ hell yeah! The lads back together again!
No the Anglospere should unite free trade and free movement between canzuk and USA.
Strick immigration from outside it demanding skills , money and cultural compatibility or no entry.
What resources? The resources came from Russia lol mainland Europe is uniquely barren of most resources needed in modern industrial developments, all Europe has is ownership of foreign countries' resources through historical colonial exploitation and it's remnants
Europe needs to be independent and united
🤣🤣🤣 no
Eventually they probably will because the EU and the US are going to end up in a trade war under Trump.
Yes, i don't understand how some Europeans oppose Trump's idea to have NATO be fair, like its supposed to be.
Ya all countries leves E U at the same time, and Ireland needs too get out of the E U
@@ThePlecoPalMaybe because Europeans gave birth to the USA. We should have stayed home back then.
The EU not being a military superpower is a choice - it doesn't need to be that way
Seig!
It's not a choice. They want US to provide them help while they use their money on domestic policies. They cannot go back now on any of it and are basically struck as any cut in welfare will cause revolt and overthrow from their current electorate. They will never be a military superpower ever again.
Yeah, it's 100% a choice. And it's a good one when facing peace.
But let's also not forget that there's a major limiting factor with germany. Our military, per constitution, is not allowed to perform military campaigns.
The biggest power in the EU purposely chose to forbid itself the option of war. Unless we change that, the EU won't either.
And it ain't gonna happen anytime soon, since Lindner just blew up our government, if at all. We kinda have a good reason not to.
Very well said.
I dont think the EU acting like a single military power with projection ability like the US is attainable without (too much) sovereignty transfer and bureaucracy.
But then, we dont really need that, we need to have a common understanding of our regional defense needs and a fair and practiceable distribution of the jobs inside it.
The EU NEEDS to detach itself from relying on the US before it drags us down into the gutter with it.
1) We MUST unify our defense systems, we are stronger together AND despite the cultural differences war between its members is unthinkable.
2) It MUST become technologically self sufficient. Draghi was correct in his analysis and now it's twice as important we follow it.
We need to produce our own medicine , digital technology, telecommunications and weapons.
In fact the two fields we ABSOLUTELY cannot afford to not have a lead in are medical technology (if the EU remains in its trailing position in regenerative medicine, bionics, anti-aging, bioprinting and gene therapy technologies our medical system will collapse under its own weight as abti democratic regimes could use access to it as a wedge to control our politics) and our weapons technology.
In both cases we need an organized, common, EU driven, organized and funded initiative with clear and ambitious goals, serious funding and tight timelines.
3) We NEED to unify our defense.
Let us not be stupid, we're not going to go to war with each other, but the threats from outside are not something we can play with as small divided militaries with unbalanced budgets, personnel, weapons, etc.
Together we are unassailable, divided we are snacks.
4) The US's upcoming descent into madness will cause a lot of people to flee. This is the chance for the EU to get A LOT of highly educated, motivated and determined people to join it who will hold democratic values that will aid us in not only upholding ours but making us a global superpower that can be the world's stabilizing force through sheer technological and cultural influence.
We must have a system in place within WEEKS to accept them, help them settle and gain citizenship fast.
5) The EU must immediately form plans to federalize. If Hungary is in the way we should kick it out. We don't have the time to afford to play stupid games anymore.
This is not a time where we can squabble like children.
We either unite as brothers and sisters into a whole greater than the sum of its parts or we will fall.
6) Nuclear energy.
We must embrace it ASAP
This process will need a lot of energy, renewables may be nice and have use cases, but let's be honest, we NEED to become the people who harness the greatest amount of high desity possible to power a re-industrialization in all high tech sectors.
hurrah!
As an American, this is cool to hear. Hopefully, you guys can grow and become as self-sufficient as you want to be.
Also as an American, I fully endorse this view. Please become a great power.
i doubt professionals are leaving to go to europe, even today its the other way around.
We absolutely do not need to unify our defense systems, that’s what NATO is for. They should be completely separate institutions
I believe this could be historic moment for Europe to cut the cord and stand on their own legs without U.S. holding their hands. This could be Europe great opportunity it won’t be easy but it could be historic moment if they at least try.
Agree, this is the push Europe needs to cut American influence for good
@@Trickaz94As an American that is what we want, Europe needs to find strength within itself. As a taxpayers we are tired of paying for our bloated military.
@@Argonhubert Europeans and Americans agreeing about something like this
Hell must be freezing over right now
You know what would be historic? European food that isn't bland and more than just bread.
@@blackbelt2000 at least it's better then the fake cancer inducing food you get in murica
Not only is it him; more than 30 years ago, the EU was formed, and Europe has not been able to become independent in any aspect. In comparison, China has managed to achieve this in under 30 years of development. It’s time for a change now.
China also had a maniacal leader under Mao
EU was formed because of America lol 😆
Yeah, are Siemens and BMW and SAP ready to be treated like Huawei?... Are EU governments ready to be treated like CCP is treated, with an endless barrage of negative media narrative and meddling?
If china is so good move over there buddy.
China also heavily relies on the US economically....
Yeah our politicians are ass, time for a shake-up i guess. We have to be an independent superpower now.
We will not be a super power anymore.
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Trump was our shake up. Shaking things up isn’t always good
the whole world is ducked. let's see where this goes.
I think the real problem is inflation and stagnation, not a leader of the US.
Correction: the whole left establishmend is.
@@HyperScorpio8688which left establishment? Where is this mythical left establishment?
you mean the usa is fucked. the rest of the world is better for having less america in it.
We've had 4 years under a senile old fart who nearly brought us to ww3 on multiple occasions. Ill take the guy that started no new wars any day over the alternative.
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It's also way louder than the actual video content
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Say what you want about the man (and there is a lot to be said), but he's 100% right that it's a disgrace that some NATO members are not contributing the agreed amount.
Its hard for me to get how Europeans are so pissed that they are being pressed to follow the treaty they signed decades ago. this is a late rent payment come due, and if you cant pay your rent, you get evicted.
That's true,but then he said he'd let russia invade those countries,but russia would have to go through countries that pay 2% or more to get to those 😂
but it's not contributing, that's the big lie that keeps getting told.
the 2% target is what member are supposed to spend on THEIR OWN military, and it's a gentlemen's agreement not even a real rule.
no matter if France spends 0% or 100% on defense the rest of NATO won't feel any of it (expect for the US where most of that defense budget would be spend to buy stuff).
the 2% is a guideline to have a simple target of what amount of defense spending keeps your military in a healthy condition, nothing more.
Dont disagree but not going hard against RUSSIA doing imperialism and violent expansion is a way bigger disgrace to NATO than not being fully commited to financial obligations. So we should take the critique of someone like that way less seriously than someone less hypocritical and actually being comitted to the dignity of NATO
As a person from European country that pays way more than 2 % I agree, trust me it's even more frustrating for us.
If the EU gets self sufficient without the US, this will ironically weaken US hegemony.
But they won't. Their entire politics is built around the assumption of dependence on the US.
Do you see European countries ever being militarily strong in your lifetime?
I know it's a hypothetical that you're suggesting. Just saying that any attempt to shrug off dependence on the US will fundamentally change the face of European politics. The people who want Europe to be independent of the US are the politicians that most Europeans are afraid of.
thats not true, having a strong Europe only benefits the US. We get to focus more attention in Asia which is the future. we save money. and having a strong Europe would be great for american manufacturing and tech since europeans are already rich. plus, europe can now take on more burdens that the US takes now, like foreign aid to poor countries and other stuff.
@@jonbolton491 but wouldn't you say there's now a president that now pushes exactly for European autonomy? Which in the long run will not benefit the US. US hegemony and being the primary currency comes with a price.
@@jonbolton491 Thats total horse shht.
Firstly, Russia can't even get past the border regions of Ukraine.
Leaving that aside there are plenty of EU countries which are, or very soon will be, militarily strong.
Finland has been stockpiling since the 50's. It wasn't Russias good nature which prevented them being invaded in all those decades. It was their insane defense infrastructure (50,000 nuclear resistant bunkers) and national service reserve of 850k reserves.
France is also militarily strong and nuclear. With nuclear UK on par with France.
Poland in in the imminent process of a huge procurement process.
And Germany is doing the same as Poland, albeit more slowly.
What is this 'independent of the US' presumption anyway.
Why exactly do we need the US post 1980, I think thats where most Americans are stuck. 1980.
Who exactly is going to threaten Europe? The guys who've spent 1000 days to get less than half way to Kiev?
Poland, Sweden, Germany can develop nukes tomorrow if need be. Who's going to stop them.
asia is the future of the world, if you can't see america slowly shifting its focus to asia , europe is dead continent with not much value.
America and Europe are stronger when equals.
Time for UK to start taxing Amazon, Starbucks etc (insted of letting them avoid almost all tax ) and use the money to send to Ukraine.
You guys lost Ukraine lol
strategic autonomy and self sufficiency. now our leaders have the ball, are they willing and capable to meet the historic requirements?
You're leaders is too busy approving radical asylum seekers. Imagine those Palestinian flags keeps waving on your streets while trampling on your nation's flag. I hope your people would wake up.
Mind Begs the Question:
▪︎Who are Axis of Evil
▪︎Those who oppose Apartheid State
▪︎Those who support Apartheid State?
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings as far as i know, an israeli arab judge of the supreme court of israel sent an israeli president to jail. arab israelis are mayors and councils members in arab majority towns and cities. arab israelis have israeli citizenship, have seats and parties in the knesset, held ministry roles, participated in government coalitions, and so on.
israeli arabs hold positions in all professional fields and are significantly present in the medical field and have leadership position.
idk, its hard to define it and apartheid tbh.
Mind Begs the Question:
▪︎Those who support a State that practice
▪︎Superior Race ideology,Dehumanization,Starvation,Gassing (White Phosphorus),Concentration Camps,Pogroms,Ethnic Cleansing,etc
▪︎Must be - Free or Jailed?
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings mind begs the question: why all the brothers around can't take them and take care of them?
Why do they persist with war when they will never stand a chance of getting anywhere?
Why are they radically determined to end the state of israel at all cost?
Why do they hate the jews more than they love thier kids whom they gladly, dancing, sacrifice as martyrs?
And so on and so forth.
It's time for Europe to step up its game. We must become more united and independent. Militarily and economicly. The threats are coming from all sides now. We have to protect ourselves.
Do you think Russia 🇷🇺 will eventually be a part of a united 🇪🇺?
@@johndurham6172 never
@@johndurham6172 Well in my world it could, but I don't know what Poetin wants to do when they would become part of it. They can not just decide to dominate it, it has to be a unity and all countries have to have say in it.
The EU is too complacent and slow in responding to world events. For example, the EU has no strategy for the Ukraine conflict, other than keep sending weapons and billions of euros to Ukraine... and then what? For how long? It's been several years. Ukraine is not going to win against a country 20 times its size. There needs to be a different approach.
@@MVUK358 personally, I think that the recent developments in military between Poland, France, and Germany will be the begging of a new era for the eu, especially in terms of military
This is good for Europe. Strategic and military independence is what is needed.
It’s time to detach from US and to be self reliant
It will be good in the same way Ukraine was good for the EU. Meaning it will force us to get our shit together and move towards a more united union instead of a burocratic nightmare
I agree on the first part, but not the Burocratic nightmare.
Especially Brexit has shown how much easier it makes trading inside the single market and how well organized the EU is.
Yes, it has a big Burocratic system, but that's more the result of being responsible for such a big block.
But for its size, I doubt that there was ever a more efficient bureaucracy ever.
n ppl will continue to die
Washington is a huge bureaucracy too.
EU has 440 million people to manage.
Soon probably 480 with Ukraine.
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A second Trump presidency could, paradoxically, be precisely the catalyst the European Union needs to advance toward federalization. The likely shift to a more transactional and inward-looking U.S. foreign policy under Trump would challenge Europe’s traditional reliance on the American security umbrella and expose vulnerabilities in the EU’s fragmented approach to international affairs. In a world of multipolar power dynamics, a divided Europe risks strategic marginalization; thus, the urgency for a cohesive, federalized response has rarely been so acute.
Historically, Trump’s “America First” stance revealed the strategic pitfalls of Europe’s dependence on the U.S., prompting European leaders to explore deeper defense, economic, and technological cooperation. A renewed Trump administration could amplify this effect, crystallizing the understanding that Europe must take decisive responsibility for its own security and sovereignty. This scenario underscores the need for a robust European defense policy, an autonomous technological base, and economic policies resilient to the pressures of external shocks.
From the perspective of political theory, Trump's influence could represent a form of exogenous pressure-a condition often recognized in politology as a trigger for institutional transformation. Facing this external challenge, European leaders may be compelled to overcome political inertia and address enduring structural constraints that hinder a cohesive policy. The political will to create and sustain a federalized structure may no longer be simply idealistic but rather a functional necessity.
In this light, a second Trump presidency might indeed be the necessary “shock to the system”-an impetus to finally push forward the federal project. Under these conditions, Europe could emerge as a self-sufficient actor, resilient in defense, economically autonomous, and diplomatically influential, empowered to safeguard its values and shape its own trajectory on the global stage.
Last time the US was in isolationism mode Pearl Harbor caught them by complete surprise, 2 years into WW2.
Ah yes. Europe too jealous of an independent USA, they have to remind them of pearl harbour every want to be independent from Europe 😂
@@asishreddy7729 History has a way of reminding people of current events.
It didn't. They were expecting war with Japan to break out at any moment, just not starting in Hawaii.
@@nano9285 Caught off guard. I am from from europe or the us. I am from NZ and our government are idiots. I hope the US keeps ready.
Did USA experience destruction? NO! Its their country its their voice we have our own!
Probably the onset of a European Army for the first time since the Romans
What language will they speak?
@@SupremeST25latin obiously
Conveniently forgetting about the EU project in the 40's that wanted one big army...
@@kevinh4869 Yeah but it didn't materialise or rather just got subsumed in the bigger nato umberlla. This time it will happen it seems
@@kevinh4869 ??? The EU didn't exist in the 1940s
The problem usually was that the US always opposed European Defence integration in favour of NATO and Europe went along with it. Now the US pretends that they were just waiting for EU Defence, which is BS. The US and the EU both were ok with the situation despite critics on both sides.
The US has not been a reliable ally for a while now. That’s why Europe should have started this process in 2016. but the next best day to start is today.
Throw the ball back into their court, basically implement tariffs for anything from the US. EU is a bigger consumer market, so if industries face the same amount of tariffs, why would they move to the US? Its time the EU recognise that they are a big player in the world, and not just subservient to the US.
Won't work the US is one nation the EU is just playing like its one Nation. If you're going to implement tariffs then you need to be able to build that industry internally to meet demand. The US can do this but getting all countries within EU to agree is not going to happen.
and add some extra tariffs on goole, facebook and apple stuff, the crown jewels of the US economy.
maybe even make a deal with TMSC to prevent the US from using Dutch made chip making machines, so the US will be at least a generation behind in high tech chips.
the orange guy and his lackeys didn't even think it through.
Also we could throw in some tariffs for Asia too so our companies come back and produce in Europe instead of exploiting poor people for cheap labor.
EU exports more good to the US then vice versa.
Most the export to the US come from Germany, which is a no no for possibly the most powerful EU member.
Dude, the fricking German cars cost more in Europe and they are made here, like the only cost out of the factory is dealer markup & transport. and they are still more expensive. Besides that for Europe the cars are worse than the ones made for america. How the frick did we end up like this ?
Not to mention here in europe we talk about global warning like it's the end of the world, but in poor countries we don't even have factories no more. And the laws, my god, they make 0 sense in convincing people, I recycled in the past now I just don't care anymore, the stupid measures are just unbearable and not affecting the real pollution players.
Also democracy in poor european countries is a joke. One big joke written poorly where everything works just as we were in a cliche comedy and repeats itself until it becomes tragic.
I came here to comment that I think it means for Europe that it should fly by itself again and stop being so dependent on US economy and politics, but I see everyone else has the same idea, which makes me glad... Europe needs to get its shit together once and for all. We have everything we need: resources, brilliant people, capital, etc It's time for the EU and Europe as a whole to get its pieces running, become independent economically, produce its own clean energy through Nuclear, invest in Fission research, develop its own military complex and become a great superpower, a confederation super state that has all of its smaller states working together in an efficient machine. Fuck all the buerocracy, fuck being nice and especially, fuck depending on others. It's time to tighten that chain and be the superpower Europe used to be by its own merit!
Basicly what happened to Turkey.
Turkey could probably never make military drones, diffrent types of missiles, apc's etc mostly domesticly so fast if not for embargos showing the goverment they had to have self sufficent capebilities
Rather than Trump, I'm afraid the rhetoric being run there will be adapted here in Europe.
Trump has shown that, even for the president of the USA, words and integrity don't matter anymore.
The difference between America and Europe is that Europe is under threat from various sides while the US isn't.
When it comes to Ukraine I believe the Ukrainian people are not going to give up even if the US decides to give up on them. They will settle for nothing less than absolute security guarantees so Russia can't just take a few years to recuperate and then go back in
But what Ukrainian going to do as they getting very dependant on Aid
@@tiglishnobody8750 There is always Guerrilla war. Messy, ugly, dirty - but promising in the long run, as history of this approach has shown...
@@LarthV Nah, not gonna happen. Without constant work of propaganda, money and weapons pumps it would fall apart.
Indeed, without forgetting that Ukraine already said they would re start a nuclear program if they are backed into a corner
@@LarthV With what? It is not like Ukraine has some advantage that Vietnam or Afghanistan have as lack of deep thick jungle or mountain
I can tell you as an American, the mood in this country to ANY foreign aid is very negative, if not hostile.
The American view is now they we spent billions a year on other countries that just hate us anyways, meanwhile; we have a ton of our own problems here.
"yep, another 100 billion to israel"
A lot of people fail to understand that foreign aid is not charity. The US policy makers are not dumb to spend billions for no reason. All that foreign aid is aimed at maintaining a world order that benefits the US more than any other country. Some Americans think that cutting foreign aid would benefit the US, and it's true in the short term; however, in the medium and long term, it will be harmful to the US economy and prosperity.
If the US stops foreign aid, one of two things will happen. 1. The countries that were receiving the aid fall, and they're taken over by powers (think Russia, China, Iran, North Korea) that will establish a new world order, one without US hegemony. 2. The countries that were receiving aid continue to survive, but since the US abandoned them, they don't consider the US an ally, and the world becomes more multipolar. Either way, the US becomes less prosperous in the medium and long term.
But the blame is not completely on the people, if they are struggling while billions of USD are spent on foreign aid, of course they'd want it to stop. The quality of politics is to be blamed; whoever is elected serves a mere 4 years, they're not gonna be around to deal with what happens in the medium and long term. Sometimes, people don't know what's actually strategically beneficial. Good politicians would not blindly implement populist policies to appease the people, but there is a dearth of good politicians.
Which is understandable, but then don't mess things around in Ukraine or in the Middle East. Europe's economy is in a bad shape without the cheap Russian gas. You guys need to understand we want to mind our business too, not just being vassal States.
and that is your god damn right, yankee! im happy you can make your own decisions, as a german i really wanted this breakup for a while and im happy its happening. We need to be a superpower again and with the eu as friends and partners we can step up to the challenge to create something truly great and not horrifyingly evil even if the price will be steep. This limbo of no agency in the eu has gone on for far too long and we are in need of CHANGE. So thx trump and putin, youre the shock therapy, and good luck to you, have fun in anarchocapitalism!
A friendly divorce with bilateral cooperation on certain topics would be my best case scenario.
Having clients are better than having a boss. You got to work for yourself
Macron wants EU reform it won't matter if Trump is the president or not. Stubb will be the "new EU heavyweight" together we will reform EU. I am working on some ideas and have been active on LinkedIn recently.
Right.. talking on an American platform about being active on an American platform
Peace with Russia is not going to hurt Europe, even if it is not going to be a good agreement for Ukraine. EU defense program should continue and go deeper, and the probability of this happening increased because Trump won. Regarding de-industrialization, EU should find its niche and become better. We need to become the silicone Valley of the world, in my opinion, because we don't have other resources to sell to stay rich.
It’s shows weakness, Russia will smell that and will take advantage of it.
Not gonna happen, EU is too overregulated, has expensive energy because of lack of resources and it's own stupidity, expensive workforce. Even know-how isn't there anymore.
Europe will not reindustrialise, it will deindustrialise even further. In our lifetime Europe will look the same as Africa.
And in the near future we may expect continued drop in purchase power of regular people, social and ethnic tensions and general chaos.
That's my prediction.
@@MyPrideFlag I agree, although it will probably look a bit more like the post-soviet union and not permanent like Haiti. Poverty, hunger, alcohol and drugs rampant, social unrest but not a complete collapse. We'll get a 'shock' until a new order rises from the EU's ashes.
@@MyPrideFlag We will never look like Africa because we are already built and these buildings will not just randomly fall apart. Neither will our infrastructure. Our leaders aren't that stupid to just let it decline unless they do it on purpose. WE do have resources though. So your predictions are very incorrect to begin with. You don't realize what resources Europe does have. In fact my country has natural gass, but they want to have clean longterm energy. So it can continue with that energy forever. That is what we are trying to do. This is in the end also a way to make ourselves self sufficient. Because some European countries do rely more on China or Russia then others. The expensive energy is not a lack of resources but not willing to use what we have at least in my country because we had cheap gass ourselves. Europe will never let it decline because it will always be able to buy energy from other places because there are lots of places with resources. Expensive workforce is what you need when prices are higher. The only reason why cheap countries are growing is because of their cheap slavery workers and low costs, but that will change in the future like it did in Europe and it in the USA. They will not be able to keep up the growth as they have now either. Adventually everyone needs to pay more and we will see where that leads the world, but the whole world will face the same issues with expensive workforce, lack of birth and chaos at some point in time, but you shouldn't be negative because we already exist for thousands of years and we are still okay so it will be perfectly fine.
trump misses that eu invests a lot more into the US than US does in the EU
Jow is that meassured? I am curious cause I don't know where to find the numbers
Investors care less about foreign politics and more about return on investment. The American market is up because Americans believe Trump will help their investments. People would be silly not to invest in the US if the market is projected to swing upward.
well you know that china and usa are not allies but they still rely on each other ? why would it be any different with eu.
investors like ROI, and the US has a really good buisness policy (letting buisnesses suck their workers dry) and low tax rates. when investors see that, they run to the companies that make it possible
Hahaha nobody believes this including you
Just tell him he's the best and give him a building with his name on it and some money and he'll do whatever you EU people want
That's how putin got trump to be his puppet, we should try the same trick 🤔
I think this presidency won't be as erratic and unpredictable. JD Vance seems to be the Dick Cheney this time, driving from the back seat and doing what is necessary. Vance, Musk, Thiel essential profesionalised his campaign and helped him avoid many of the stumbling blocks this campaign.
On the other hand, regardless of what they do, just the instability of having to anticipate an American reaction will be final push needed for Strategic Autonomy.
President: GOP, Senat: Majority GOP, House: Majority GOP, Supreme Court: Majority GOP.
You really think it won't be that bad, without any real check & balances? In what world do you live..
I hate that I agree with Trump about nato . Europe isn’t doing what they agreed too so why should we? Pay what you agreed too
Europe has a great track record of working together so detaching from the US’s hegemonic power will no doubt work.
It will take time, it will be difficult but it can and must be done.
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It can be done but, yeah, Europeans have been killing each other since forever until America loomed over them, first economically then militarily.
Yes
Anything which forces Europe to become more independent with regard to the US is a good thing. We need to stop being a US satellite union.
Make BAGUETTE Great Again 🥖
It'll be great for Europe. He can come over for another summit and tell your leaders how to run your countries, and they might actually listen this time.
It probably means more pain
Mind Begs the Question:
▪︎Right Wing
▪︎Left Wing
▪︎Both operated by same bird,no?
I Think we all know the answer to this one without watching the video. Trump's election is like the US's version of Brexit
It’s time for EU to stop depending on America and be more self sufficient.
5:17 so the US economy takes the worst hit from those tariffs? Pretty dumb to do so then
There is a reason pretty much all economists ever are against tariffs. You are primarily taxing your own people. But people are dumb/dont know how econ works and dont realize tariffs are just another form of tax they have to pay.
Of course he is good for Europe. Will finally rebuild their army.
Pffft.
We will see about that. How well were we off after WW2 or WW1? not that well right?. War is never good, so we are spending money for something that shouldn't take place to begin with. The best thing we can do is being allies with our neighbor instead of fighting them.
@@-_YouMayFind_- It only works if your neighbors think the same way. Otherwise they will just f... you. The Best way to avoid conflicts is to have a strong army.
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Agreed, but tell that to Trump.
Real quick thing for Europeans who might not understand why the US isn’t willing to back Ukraine 110%. We don’t see it as an existential threat. We have our alliance and that’s secure, and Ukraine beating up Russia is just icing on the cake. Very few Americans want to risk getting pulled into another expensive and long term overseas venture. So we are willing to be the bad guys if that means bringing peace to the region.
Surrendering Ukraine WON'T BRING PEACE IT WILL JUST EXTEND THE CONFLICT AND RUSSIA WILL INVADE OTHERS.
Just curious, do Americans not realize that the "peace" that comes by letting Russia keeps parts of Ukraine is not going to last?
There are valid concerns that Russia will not stop with that; that Russia will, after a few years, take more. Like how Crimea was taken and after a few years this happens.
And sure, even if Russia took over the whole of Ukraine, the US won't be under any military threat. But Russia will grow stronger and the US will lose its allies, this will result in a new world order in which the US isn't the leader. And that will surely affect the US, since the US currently benefits from being the leader of the world.
Yes, it won't happen overnight, but in 15-20 years the US will lose economically and militarily.
Hopefully cheaper Energy due to the 'drill drill drill' attitude. We need to take advantage of this to build alternative power sourced, preferably nuclear power due to its immense potential.
yeah lets hope Germany gets their shit together with that hahah
Why would he sell the energy at cheaper prices? Europe is desperate now and has no alternatives. For a businessman it's the best time to squeeze as much profit as you can
@NJ-wb1cz oil prices are global. The more supply there is, the cheaper it is for everyone.
As a Green myself, you are right
@@NJ-wb1cz because he's more likely to sell any at all when there's the Arab nations close by that can do the same thing
let’s hope it makes the EU get its shit together and unify
I'm far from being a Trump supproter, but his stance on NATO is totally understandable. If you break the agreement by not paying more than 2% of your GDP towards the defence, why shouldn't US break the agreement by refusing to protect you? What is so shocking about this statement?
There are a lot of "freeloaders" in NATO right now (including my own country - Italy) and it's good that Trump is pushing them towards spending more, it's good long term.
2 reasons: most members do pay 2% or more. And there is no written agreement/rules in NATO regarding 2%. So Trump is asking something what is not even signed. The USA also needs to decide does it want the Europe become more separate from the USA and thus potential military rival, or not.
All neighbors to Russia pay 2% tho. So the whole speech and “Russia can do whatever they want” was unnecessary or an indication that the U.S. won’t even help the 2% countries. It’s not like Italy or Luxembourg are the ones getting attacked
@@neventomicic330They just started in the last 2 years. Stop trying to make it seem like they’ve cared about defense.
so what do the "freeloading" countries get?
it's not that they get a chuck of the (insane amount of) money the US spend on it's defense budget.
you could argue that they get peace of mind by having the assurance of being protected by the US and so they can spend on other things than defense.
but that is assuming the US doesn't get anything in return for being the "shield" of those nations.
the US gets to dictate things to it's allies, pressure them to go the way the US wants them to, and pressure them to spend their defense budget on US made stuff.
so the US assures safety for those nations and gets money, influence, jobs and more in return for it.
seems to be the US has the upper hand in the current situation, and if the US stops being the "shield" they lose all those benefits and won't win anything.
@@neventomicic3301. No one is worried about Europe becoming a military rival.
2. There was an agreement made by all the members in Nato, it however wasn't binding.
3. Most NATO members did not meet the 2% threshold when Trump was President. It was something like the US, France, UK and that was it.
Hope Europe turns more and more to the right
It doesn't takes a genius to deduce that he is an absolute and holistic self-centered person - so what you expect???
The tariff policy does make sense. The US needs more jobs
None of Trump's policies make sense. He is going to ruin the US economy, that's why he got so much promotion from state propaganda channels from ditatorships globally.
From an Estonian point of view, im gald this will probably be the spark that will start a formation of an EU army, but im deeply anxious for Ukrainians, he will very likely withdraw all support for Ukraine and let Russia have a field day. And even more anxious that he will become a dictator of the US since there are little to no guard rails stopping him
What makes you think that?
less than 50% of Estonians know English and 15 % of Estonians only know Estonian and its even worse in many other European countries like Italy or France
@@Aaron_GuestProject 2025 and the fact that there are no checks and balances anymore.
@diogorodrigues747 Trump said he isn't for Project 2025, and how do you think there are no Checks and Balances anymore?
Yes, maybe this could be the push for a more united Europe that is just for us Europeans.
I hope the EU strengthen itself and not need America anymore. Time America wass minimised
Hey, as long as Europe stop freeloading off of us, I am good lol
Well, he said don't build the pipeline. Spend more on defense. He was completely right.
Can the EU detach? Nah, Russia is heading for Berlin. How do we know? They say it openly.
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They can't even take Ukraine so there is no much to worry about
I mean, at least half of the former GDR would openly welcome them as liberators, so...
If Europe is so scared of Russia? Why are they barely trying to become capable of defending themselves instead of relying on the US?
Lmao they can't even take Kyiv but you think they can get to berlin? 🤣.
EUROPE MUST UNITE
The EU must stop relying on the United States since it has made it patently clear that Ukraine is a European problem. Trump will certainly stop supporting Ukraine in the first days of his presidency and the EU will have no choice but to fill the gap. Also, it is likely Trump will pull the United States out of NATO. This shouldn't mean the end of NATO, but it will force Brussels to take the lead. The EU can do this, but it is going to be painful. The question is, is the pain worth saving Ukraine from Russia? One would hope so.
What makes you think the EU can do this?
@@lazarus3956 a very optimistic and admittedly perhaps naive hope that Europeans can come together with the knowledge that it will be sandwiched in between an aggressive Russia to the east and a non-interested quasi-ally to the west. The Atlantic ocean will seem wider than ever before.
@@sananp.4718 The problem is that the EU is already behind on pretty much everything; growth is almost absent for all kinds of reasons. To truly become competitive again, we need partners who help us develop. We need cheap energy, huge investments, markets to export to, a technological exchange to catch up to others, better education for more STEM graduates etc. Who will help us? Because clearly we can't do it on our own at this point in time.
@@lazarus3956 I totally agree with your take except your last statement. No one is going to be there to help us except ourselves. The EU will go through more pain before it realises the EU can only rely on its citizens and not the other way around. The EU is a political/geographical body made up of 450 million people, however, over 60% of those only wait for handouts and it's been like since the Marshall Plan. That mentality must stop otherwise we are done. Also, for Christ's sake, Brussels should really take a break on trying to regulate everything under the sun. It is killing innovation.
EU can now stop clinging on their daddy
Agreed. EU should strategically decouple from the US and pivot to China, bringing an end to the dollar being the primary hegemony and world currency
Trump believes that the EU must assert itself more confidently and stop depending so heavily on the US.
like how?
how is the EU depending on the US?
@ Many EU countries are de-industrializing while relying on the U.S. for military, energy, and space support. They need to face bullies like China and Russia on their own and avoid dragging us into another cold war, especially with Trump's leadership.
hes right. dont like him but hes right.
the US President doesn't have the authority to withdraw from NATO
He can cut the spending though.
USA made their own problems big and now Europe has to pay for them XD
I doubt significant manufacturing will move to the US if Trump imposes flat tariffs. Moving manufacturing to the US would mean having to pay to build new production lines, having to pay higher labour costs, and having to pay more for raw materials, while US consumer purchasing power falls anyway, and retaliatory tariffs make it more expensive to sell to the rest of the world. This might give European manufacturers greater incentive to move production to China or Indonesia, but it won't move manufacturing to America.
No Company with 2 braincells will still want to move to China.
It's easy, just add a bunch of yellow squares with the letter I (Industry) on it. Then connect it to roads, water, and electricity. After a couple hours, manufacturing will move in and start producing goods if there are enough red squares with the R (residential) letter close enough to commute to it. Oh wait, that's SimCity and not real life. Never mind.
The EU is unlikely to have as much of a response collectively as individual member nations do. Member nations control their own defense budgets. Remember Trump literally wrote a book on his approach to negotiations. He always starts by making unreasonable demands but is willing to negotiate down.
Glad to see Europe finally waking up so how detrimental such close ties to the US are
@@ReijiSakamaki Strange how it takes Trump for people to finally start waking up, because this has been a trend for many years now.
We can't roll the dice every 4 years. Need to be way more self-sufficient, especially in terms of defence. Should have at least made a start 8 years ago.
That's not what Article 5 says. You're supposed to be accurate news?
They would have to be honest and read the article.
Sounds like you refered to the first President of the Fifth French Republic as 'de Ghoul!' My favourite comic would then be called 'Asterix the Ghoul' lol😅
Giorgia Meloni has never said anything that was pro trump during the us electoral campaing and remained neutral, she just congratulated with him like every country leader does. I don’t understand why putting her with wielders or orban who were supporting him since before being re elected.
Because she's right-wing... it's simply that. No thoughts
@ Right wing who although has been professional in being neutral like a good leader should be.
Everyone ignoring the climate change elephant in the room.
Climate issues will take a back seat
Unfortunately climate change itself is boring
A big issue with Trump is that it's hard to tell if what he says is his actually plans or just him saying stuff to to please his supporters.
cant imagine america's economy dying somehow being positive for eu
It will be tough for Europe, but they have already decoupled from Russian fossil fuels so it is possible.
imagine if google , youtube disappear much of the world will collapse except maybe china who have their own stuff
Yes we can't trust them now
No. Next question, please.
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Honestly as a european we needed this wake up call. Him getting elected sooner rather than later is going to push europe to actually learn to defend itselfs instead of burying our heads in the sand
Your bias is showing TLDR…
The EU is rich, it should be able to fund a military to defend themselves against a paper tiger like Russia. it's amazing just how much they rely on the USA even for Ukraine which is on their doorstep.
I expect higher trade with china and pain in some industries as tarrifs cut into profits. I expect all funding to be dropped from Ukraine and imf loans to be provided instead.
One of the smoothest ad transitions I’ve seen
As an American its kinda annoying to see Europeans question our lack of healthcare while gladly relying on our military spending.
The USA spends more on healthcare than most European countries but isn’t free for everyone
It's not like you don't have the money for healthcare because you spent too much on military spending, you're just mismanaging your public spending which in case of health care is still incredibly high.
@@mrgalaxy396 this same argument can be made towards Europe and its
Military spending. Correct? It’s not like Europe doesn’t have money to better protect itself.
@@mrgalaxy396 all I’m hearing is “ no, you can foot the bill for us, you’re just not managing your money correctly”.
Those two are linked as we all know
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Only in the sense that it'll force Europe to be more self reliant in military matters.
At least the EU is now forced to face reality with Trump in power 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
I’m American and I certainly don’t enjoy subsidizing the countries that ruined my ancestral land (like Germany, not just the UK).
"What does Trump Mean for Europe?"
It means that i should probably start learning russian and chinese
Or Finnish and Italian.
That's not a bad thing tbh, I'd like to learn both lol
Well if you put it like that it kinds sounds fun and cute 😂
Why though?
As opposed to basically all EU countries speaking more English than native languages
Well, its been nice seeing a largely independent Eastern Europe.
It means you're up needs to start relying more on itself than relying so much on the United States
For the EU? No. For Europeans? YES!
Well time for a federal EU I guess🇪🇺
Hopefully this will help us to be more united and independent from Washington
There's a bare minimum expenditure for a member state of NATO. Pay your share of the alliance, don't be weak, there wouldn't be a reason to "abandon" anyone. Finland, a nation who barely has a fraction of population to some European states, would have been able and has been paying for that expenditure without even being in NATO for decades.
Finland, Sweden, Poland, Estonia, Latvia & Lithuania, the UK & Greece are the NATO members in europe that spend >2% of GDP on defense. SWEDEN, a famously social democracy can do it. Europe can have its social democratic cake and eat it too, I genuinely dont understand why so many EU countries cant abide by a treaty THEY signed decades ago (in most cases).
Europe needs to change and stop relying so much on the US.
We need federal Europe asap!