Aliex - Thanks for the review. I am really glad you liked the boat overall. Your seat issues can be resolved by tightening the straps of the seat base and back. This type of seat relies on the tension of the fabric for comfort. We make these adjustable since fabric has a tendency to stretch over time. This allows you to keep and nice snug fit over the life of the boat. If you have questions please feel free to reach out and I will be glad to walk you through it. Hopefully we can connect at iCast again this year. Adam (Wilderness Systems)
adding my reply again for viewers Hey Adam, the bar is still an issue, we pulled the straps and took it on the water next day for a few hours and the bar was still an issue, I'll 100% pass by at icast! i would love to get one of this, the pdl version to do a proper full review on it.
I’ve had the recon for 4 months now and the seat is still uncomfortable, I’ve even bought the lumbar support ( the one you blow up ) and it’s still a issue sense the lumbar cushion deflated over time . I love my recon but I’ve been trying to find other seats I could attach but it hard given I have the pdl
I ordered the trolling motor mount from yacht Gadget how do I get the front piece that screws in the front of the bracket so the water doesn't come in as much, can you help me find it, please 😜 blessing
Wilderness Systems will not stand behind the design flaw in the seat! Apparently customers telling them it’s an issue means nothing to the company. Very sad. After owning 2 other boats from wilderness with no issues they refuse to admit they have issues with this seat in the recon 120.
@@AliexFolgueira it would be great if you could list what trolling motors will fit there too. I'm guessing you have a few different ones. Also what speed did the Watersnake go in the low setting? Good for trolling?
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Not at all, very easy to paddle and I think that's due to the keel design. I've got the HD model, I would make sure you've got a 250cm+ paddle. Also hard as hell to tip, you'll throw yourself before you tip this thing.
Goober likes the Outlaw better??!!! It is not Pedal ready for an easy upgrade. Let's see F.A. 🐳 to stand up and move around in that Outlaw!!! Also, with a 34"/ 35' wide kayak, you need a 250cm to 260cm min. paddle.
@@AliexFolgueira I have one and have done a few videos the only thing I hate about it is how heavy it is… other than that it is an awesome fishing boat
I’m looking to get my first kayak and I would like some help from you. I’m 6’4 and about 280lbs this would be my first kayak and looking at stability vs speed.
One of the most stable kayaks that's probably out there is to feelfree Dorado 125. It has next to bass boat stability. My main need in a kayak was stability as well, the Dorado blew me away in that regard. And the seat is just ridiculously comfortable, probably the best kayak seat out there as well. At least that I've tried. I came from a pelican catch 100, then, within my fishing circle, was able to fish and try a Hobie PA-12, a Titan 12, and an old town predator pdl. Never tried the Dorado before I bought it, so I was out on a limb, but once I got it just fell in love with it. And I'm from Texas as well 99% of my fishing is in lakes and the Dorado does really really well on lakes.
I'm 6,2 about the same weight. I have a recon. It's great, I can stand up slowly. It's easy to paddle and maneuver and very stable. I havent had a problem with the seat bar yet
When will anglers see metal kayaks made like flat bottom boats, but in kayak style at affordable prices ? Does anyone "know" or have info on this. Thanks.
@@AliexFolgueira I finally got my Recon and had it out for 8 hours on Saturday. Luckily I had no issues with the bar, but I've heard some guys put a piece of small pool noodle on it.
Hey Aliex, like the videos. Im getting ready to purchase my first fishing kayak and was wondering if you knew if there is a pedal system that folds back upon impact with underwater obstacles instead of having to flatten them out beforehand. I thought I seen it somewhere.
At this point what isn’t sold out ? And I bet you it is not that too many people want it it is more they for whatever reason can’t make enough and it is getting pretty annoying
Your verbiage does not match with the title. You love the Recon. You just hate the seat. A fish bag will just fit on the front hatch lid. A motorcycle tank cargo net would secure it nicely. Nice video, thumbs up.
I need help!! Help me write more clickbait titles 😎 people only click when it is clickbait, I hate this…it is true I hate the seat…then I added the name of the boat it is not clickbait it is sensational but it has to be otherwise people don’t watch
@@AliexFolgueira lol just look at the people doing the updtes on the Az audit. They are all click bait. "Whoa, big update on the Recon 1i5" or something like that.
@@AliexFolgueira lol just look at the people doing videos on the Arizona audit. "Whoa, big update on the recon 120, the seat sucks" video inside, but the rest is nice....
Aliex - Thanks for the review. I am really glad you liked the boat overall. Your seat issues can be resolved by tightening the straps of the seat base and back. This type of seat relies on the tension of the fabric for comfort. We make these adjustable since fabric has a tendency to stretch over time. This allows you to keep and nice snug fit over the life of the boat. If you have questions please feel free to reach out and I will be glad to walk you through it. Hopefully we can connect at iCast again this year. Adam (Wilderness Systems)
adding my reply again for viewers Hey Adam, the bar is still an issue, we pulled the straps and took it on the water next day for a few hours and the bar was still an issue, I'll 100% pass by at icast! i would love to get one of this, the pdl version to do a proper full review on it.
I’ve had the recon for 4 months now and the seat is still uncomfortable, I’ve even bought the lumbar support ( the one you blow up ) and it’s still a issue sense the lumbar cushion deflated over time . I love my recon but I’ve been trying to find other seats I could attach but it hard given I have the pdl
Hi Adam, is there a good way to make this seat more comfortable?
Yay my day just got brighter
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I ordered the trolling motor mount from yacht Gadget how do I get the front piece that screws in the front of the bracket so the water doesn't come in as much, can you help me find it, please 😜 blessing
Do you a video of you assembling the snakehead motor
Wilderness Systems will not stand behind the design flaw in the seat! Apparently customers telling them it’s an issue means nothing to the company. Very sad. After owning 2 other boats from wilderness with no issues they refuse to admit they have issues with this seat in the recon 120.
How's this one in the surf and coming back into the breakers?
What paddle are you using with the Recon? It sits so high up, i think I might need a 280cm paddle.
I'm interested in a comparison between recon 120 HD vs topwater 120 pdl
can you guys do a trolling motor setup video on that recon trolling motor setup? Curious how you guys mounted it.
That video is coming soon
@@AliexFolgueira it would be great if you could list what trolling motors will fit there too. I'm guessing you have a few different ones. Also what speed did the Watersnake go in the low setting? Good for trolling?
I had the same problem with the seat. Wilderness systems sells an inflatable lumbar support. I purchased one from Amazon. Problem solved.
Looks like that wilderness paddles well for such a big boat.
I does indeed
What is the motor mount and where can I get one?
Hey Alex what go pro track mount are you using? That’s a great angle for fishing videos
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Is this kayak hard to paddle because of the width? Wish you would do a tip video on this kayak
Not at all, very easy to paddle and I think that's due to the keel design. I've got the HD model, I would make sure you've got a 250cm+ paddle. Also hard as hell to tip, you'll throw yourself before you tip this thing.
What do you recommend this wilderness recon or the bonafide ss127? What's more stable?
probably splitting hairs but i would say the recon, wider
Goober likes the Outlaw better??!!! It is not Pedal ready for an easy upgrade. Let's see F.A. 🐳 to stand up and move around in that Outlaw!!! Also, with a 34"/ 35' wide kayak, you need a 250cm to 260cm min. paddle.
Happy fathers day!
Thanks buddy same to you
You ever tested out the native Titan?
Ohh yeah search “Aliex native watercraft titan “
@@AliexFolgueira I have one and have done a few videos the only thing I hate about it is how heavy it is… other than that it is an awesome fishing boat
I’m looking to get my first kayak and I would like some help from you. I’m 6’4 and about 280lbs this would be my first kayak and looking at stability vs speed.
What’s your budget ? Any yak 12 ft long and at least 34 in wide with a cat hull will hold you
@@AliexFolgueira I’m in Texas so kayaks are scarce around here unless I want to be put on a back order list under 2k
One of the most stable kayaks that's probably out there is to feelfree Dorado 125. It has next to bass boat stability. My main need in a kayak was stability as well, the Dorado blew me away in that regard. And the seat is just ridiculously comfortable, probably the best kayak seat out there as well. At least that I've tried. I came from a pelican catch 100, then, within my fishing circle, was able to fish and try a Hobie PA-12, a Titan 12, and an old town predator pdl. Never tried the Dorado before I bought it, so I was out on a limb, but once I got it just fell in love with it. And I'm from Texas as well 99% of my fishing is in lakes and the Dorado does really really well on lakes.
I'm 6,2 about the same weight. I have a recon. It's great, I can stand up slowly. It's easy to paddle and maneuver and very stable. I havent had a problem with the seat bar yet
I ended up going with a shearwater 125 😃
New subscriber here. Just got my outlaw a couple months back
Welcome 😀 hope you are enjoying your boat
When will anglers see metal kayaks made like flat bottom boats, but in kayak style at affordable prices ? Does anyone "know" or have info on this. Thanks.
Ya mean a Jon boat? Lol
You probably wont because flat bottom boats handle very poorly. Catamaran style hulls are superior.
The Recon will be my next fishing kayak, as soon as they're back in stock near me.
Just fix that lumbar bar seat thing and it is gold
@@AliexFolgueira maybe with a kayak kushion?
@@AliexFolgueira how did you fix it?
@@AliexFolgueira I finally got my Recon and had it out for 8 hours on Saturday. Luckily I had no issues with the bar, but I've heard some guys put a piece of small pool noodle on it.
Hey Aliex, like the videos. Im getting ready to purchase my first fishing kayak and was wondering if you knew if there is a pedal system that folds back upon impact with underwater obstacles instead of having to flatten them out beforehand. I thought I seen it somewhere.
The hobie mirage drive with kick up fins, hobie outback has it
Jackson Flex Drive System I believe is what you are referring to.
Apparently we didn’t hear that the other boat has a lot more hull slap.
hard to cover everything
You make me want to buy like 5 different kayaks lol I only can afford 1 and it must be a tandem so I can take my son
Nucanoe tandems are awesome
Crescent makes a nice tandem
Start with one, then get more 😎 that's what I did
@@AliexFolgueira lol they cost a pretty penny especially jet powered ones
@@aoglifestyle2020 hahaha can't wait for the tesla jet kayak
this kayak is sold out every where. i want the blue
At this point what isn’t sold out ? And I bet you it is not that too many people want it it is more they for whatever reason can’t make enough and it is getting pretty annoying
@@AliexFolgueira finaly found one. picking it up saturday. thanks for your videos on this kayak.
cool motor setup
yup and useful
Outlaw is prob the slowest kayak to paddle and just not well designed lol
very slow
@@AliexFolgueira lol
Your verbiage does not match with the title. You love the Recon. You just hate the seat. A fish bag will just fit on the front hatch lid. A motorcycle tank cargo net would secure it nicely. Nice video, thumbs up.
I need help!! Help me write more clickbait titles 😎 people only click when it is clickbait, I hate this…it is true I hate the seat…then I added the name of the boat it is not clickbait it is sensational but it has to be otherwise people don’t watch
@@AliexFolgueira lol just look at the people doing the updtes on the Az audit. They are all click bait. "Whoa, big update on the Recon 1i5" or something like that.
@@AliexFolgueira lol just look at the people doing videos on the Arizona audit. "Whoa, big update on the recon 120, the seat sucks" video inside, but the rest is nice....
@@cerescop lol I haven’t check the news since like I can’t remember, just fake news
Im regretinh buying the outlaw. I should've bought this one. Anyone want an outlaw? Priced to sell lol
The perception paddle is 99 dollars on Amazon
Which one ?
@@AliexFolgueira the outlaw 3 piece
Definitely faster!
Way faster
Tn. Amazing
Nice place! Icast in a few days
I love my recon. Ordered the pod mount today!
Sweet! Did you use the code to save $$$ recon is a nice boat hope you have a blast with it
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