My Kayak is RUINED...
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My kayak is ruined...I can't believe it.
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Update on the kayak. Hobie covered it under warranty. I am getting a new hull. Luckily I was using a Hobie brand cart otherwise they wouldn’t have covered it under warranty.
so im assuming the hobie cart is a bad idea to use
The "hobie brand cart" thing Sounds like a BS excuse by hobie to sell overpriced carts and/or trying to get out of warranty claims.
@Phrosty420 A "C-Tug" style cart shouldn't cause issues. Though real problem here is the quality control on those "inserts" hobie used for the scuppers, so its more so a hull issue rather then the cart.
@@nikushim6665 How would they even prove you weren't using a hobie cart?
@@miclam00 They will ask you in general what cart you used during a warranty claim. Of course you could lie, but someone not knowing any better might say they had a offbrand. That or the dealer might ask to see the cart. Not that it being offbrand had any effect on the actual failure, a 1 inch pipe is a 1 inch pipe.
Great to see you two fishing together. I always enjoy comradery and collaboration when I go fishing with someone. It definitely makes the trip memorable when something crazy happens.
That was some great fishing! No tournament pressure just enjoying life! Stressed me out to see that video title waking up at 5:15 on Sunday morning, glad you are okay.
Dude that was a blast. I definitely hope I never have to pick up a 14 ft kayak with 20 gallons of water in it again 🥵
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Foldable kayak?? Made in South Carolina. Not affiliated or anything. Great video guys always learn something new and appreciate it.
John is awesome and a Blessing! Good in Hobie to warranty ya. I was told in 2005 with my first sit on top to never use a scupper hole cart. For that reason. It was a wilderness systems tarpon 100 and 120 I got for me and my son.
Mostly I fish out of my s9lor canoe anyway... but I still haven't used a scupper hole cart in all these years with 6--8 air in top kayaks so far. (Cant find one I like enough to keep over my solo canoe, lol.
.love your channel and hope you have a ball with the F12!
Great to see you two enjoying some great creek fishing together. My son & I enjoy both of your channels!
That F12 will serve you well 👍🏼
Looking forward to using it.
Always a good time watching your adventures Alex!!
Creek fishing adventures is an awesome channel. Cool to see y’all work together
Yup, I know the feeling of sinking. Thankfully I was within 70 yards of launch with my 3 waters kayak when I started to sink, in a shallow creek. I love the stability of pontoon style yaks, but the manufacturers really need to address the instability of when they take on water. Great vid none the less!
Use a C-tug, those cart always damage the holes where it goes in. The more gear on your kayak the more pressure on the seams.
Really enjoyed the video! By far my favorite type of fishing is running up and down the creeks chasing whatever bites! Great fish man!!
Yikes!! A hole in a yak is never fun! Glad ya made it back with out sinking. My Ascend 12T “Arm Exhauster” is currently parked until I get the stern patched up…won’t be 10 weeks but it’s still gonna be a while.
John is the man. Dude literally goes anywhere to fish with anyone, dude just loves fishing
Dang! Definitely not the place to get a hole in the boat lol, y’all were about to smash a couple more big guys too. Great vid!
Thanks buddy!
Ordered 12/16 recieved 2/3/21 over all seems nice will have to wait for warm weather to use. Will have time to upgrade , great info on you tube .
Already a big fan of Creek Fishing Adventures, and John makes really fun and interesting videos. Great to finally see a collab, and all the f*ckery that ensues!
First time watcher. Enjoyed the video a add me am glad things worked out for you. I bet you’ll enjoy the Nucanoe. I have an Unlimited and really like it… though there are easier paddlers.
Wow that Its not a good thing a separation in the hull ! I hope Hobie takes a look at there top end kayak build !
That looks like a blast dude!!!
Get a Hobie Itrek. Don’t be afraid of an inflatable. They are tough and if it does get a hole you can patch it in less than a minute and your day goes on. I drag mine over rocks, dirt roads and even concrete. Best river boat I’ve ever owned. Best kayak I’ve ever owned and I’ve owned over 40.
Cool video Alex! Loving the kayak videos big time! This one especially. Creek fishing is a blast and no one doesn’t better than John. Probably should of brought one of the other yaks bro! 😂 just saying
What if the PA was my only kayak? I’d hope a $5k piece of plastic could do the job. Thanks for watching bud😁🤙🏻
If you liked that spotted, you should hit a creek or two in Alabama. There’s a couple of stretches here that can, and have produced 10’s of 3-4lb spot. A few line breaks as well. Imo, the best spot fishing in the country.
Ugh, that blows. I am surprised you didn’t use the NuCanoe instead of the PA in the creek.
Luckily it happened in the creek and not in the middle of a larger lake and during a tourney 😬
What made you go with a small chompo over the ned rig or the wacky you have gotten comfortable with ? Your positivity amongst the struggle was refreshing keep it up
I’ve caught a lot of big fish in shallow current with a plopper style bait. It always seems to get them to react and normally their bigger then normal.
Great Yak adventure!
Hey Alex. Fun video! Quick question, I attach my go pro to my hrails and make videos. During the videos, the camera picks up all the vibration from the hull of the kayak. I notice that your front camera is very quiet and picks up your voice very well. Do you have any advice on how I can get better quality without all the background noise? Thanks.
I pull on the audio from my chest camera and match it up with whatever other camera I’m running.
Great video love the channel
Hey Alex.. I'm watching here and I watched back on Johns channel . Famous last words..... "I had a muffin". lol So now I'm watching your water line the whole time...That is a nice bass. almost 4 lbs. Yak, is sitting so low it looks like a paddleboard. lol Ok, I'm sinking. ha.. Alex... I'm really sorry man. I hope you can fix it easily. You should be able to get some help somwhere if you need it. Sounds morbid but can't wait to see how you get it fixed....... wow, glad to hear about the replaement and glad to hear about you having other Kayaks. You caught some nice fish in a sinking boat...Nice job and yep.... I will watch even more.
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That pedal yacht was the wrong tool there, but what a great day of fishing. Love the collaboration with John. His channel is awesome too.
Ima start calling it the pedal yacht 😂😁🤙🏻
Ouch. Good to hear they’re going to warranty it though. 👍
Dang what a pain in the butt! I've heard something about where the wheels go in on the Hobies, but I wasn't sure exactly what it was. 10 weeks yeesh.
Hey that's awesome you're fishing with John! He's a great guy.
John is the man!
Why I use boonedox - and Hobie doesn't like them, but my Pro 14 is a 2015 version so... I am old and hoisting it up to insert wheels up those holes doesn't cut it anymore. Glad they stood behind yours and you got it replaced.. Awesome fish!
That Nu Canoe kayak will be a great river/creek boat.
Incredible fishing, that sucks about your kayak though!
Man those mean mouth are pretty looking fish. That was an absolute unit bro!
between that issue and the drive tearing up. seen it on a few here locally. lol my neighbor had the same thing happen, but he sunk in the creek behind the house. bad part i had to go get my dive gear and a floatation bag because he sank in a curve and it was 43 ft deep. so i hopped on my sundolphin 12ss and started scanning with the garmin and i found it. in 38 ft of water. gets better , wrapped up in a tree. not really a safe one man dive with 8'' vis. so off into the muddy gator infested creek i go. knowing the cheapest thing i have with me is my $500 kayak and my dive knife. so i have my neighbor get in my kayak and i tie a rope to his and struggle to get it out of tree with the current. 3 attempts with him paddling up stream to help dislodge his yak . it free and fubared. when it hit the tree under water it poked a huge hole in it. and of course hobie would not honor his warranty. guess he's not a yt guy. fyi 2nd time that yak was in the water. DO NOT USE HOBIE CART IF YOU PULL IT around. he pulled his yak 80 ft twice across his yard to the creek and the bs cart tube failed???? $5600???? not to mention all he lost to boot.. then zero warranty coverage because it sank and the current impaled his yak on a tree?? he said hobie denied replacement due to other damage?? ahh it was brand new and the hole was caused by it sinking . they laugh at my sundolphin , best thing is the seat. but id rather lose 500 than over 7000, not like i could look for things in the bottom of creek with 8'' vis.. but i do know one guy is on his 5th drive unit. hopefully they have fixed that too.
Oh this is what I'm talking about. I need to get down with this. This man is definitely on the same vibe as me 🙌🙌🙌
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Great collaboration
I have a cart like that as well ( not a Hobie ) and after reading several reviews of that style, they are not good for the
scupper holes. All the beating and banging they do along with the pressure they apply on the sides it's best to not use
that style of cart unless you are on pavement where it is completely smooth.
This is why I keep a pack of water weld (plastic weld/patch) and a manual pump with at all times.
Great video!
What lb and type line is on your baitcaster
I wish you best of luck Alex ❤️🙏
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In 1978 smashed my kayak on the whirlpool river in the Canadian Rockies. It was a 7 mile hike dragging it through morel mushrooms and pine needles. Repaired it with fiberglass patches, and put it in Lake Victoria the next day. Guess it’s all part of the adventure.
This sounds like the beginning of a book 😂👊🏻
Man I haven’t done stuff like that since I was a kid took me back to my childhood LOL 😂 Man that sucks what happened but at least got back safe.
Man, that looked like so much fun, except for the leak part. Thinking about getting into a PA14.....
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OK this was awesome... 2 of my favorite channels together. only thing that would be better is if NDYakAngler was there..
I’d like too go visit NDYakAngler!
That would be great man!
That's crazy you were going down like the titanic LOL 😆 hopefully they fix it quickly 👊
6-8 weeks 🫠
There's a scammer/spammer posting on your videos again I also reported it to TH-cam but I don't know if they actually do anything about it unfortunately
Man! That sucks. Great video overall. I'll be looking for your final resolution on the Hobie fix.
They approved the warranty claim ETA 6-8 weeks on a new hull.
@@AlexRuddFishingGlad to hear it.
THE COLLAB WE NEEDED!
I am only using second hand knowledge but apparently using scupper holes for wheels or other things is bad news because they are the weakest point of a hull. I think this is why Greg Blanchard uses the fold down ones.
Hobies are actually one of the only brands scupper carts are usable on. Seem like he just got a dud. 😬
They also told me if it hadn’t been their brand cart they wouldn’t have warranty it.
My husband and I are unfortunately stuck till late August or Sept too. His PA cracked around bottom of where the seat legs go in. Happened on his birthday on parksville early June. Weird thing was it was fine when it came off the trailer and he stood one time in it the whole day and we got out and swam afterward and it was fine after that. So we have no idea how or why it cracked with him just sitting. But we are waiting on a new hull too. At least hobie warranties like they do. Great video though and what an amazing fish!
Does he have a the green camo 360?
@@AlexRuddFishing yes sir
I saw the pictures of the kayak. That’s absolutely nuts. The guy who help put in my warranty claim was telling about it.
@@AlexRuddFishing it is absolutely nuts. I mean my husband's a big guy but no where near the weight limit on the seat. He's a good 70 to 80lbs under. And we baby both his PA and my outback so we couldn't believe it happened. But at least it's warrantied. For the time being due to the PA being out of commission and the heat we've just been wading for smallmouth and trout. At least we have that option in east TN
Just subscribed! I'm a longtime subscriber to Creek Fishing Adventures . Looking forward to watching your channel as well.
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notice how the Hobie had the water problem, not the Old Town 😏 all love, great video!
I have a PA14 also and those scupper wheels are notorious for doing that especially when you're on rougher terrain. You'd be a lot better off getting the boonedox landing gear installed. A lot easier to manage and a lot safer on the kayak. Great video tho this is what I'm wanting to do so bad is drop off in some clear creeks.
The thing that warded me off other wheels is that when I submitted my warranty the guy at the dealership said if they’re weren’t Hobie wheels I was using they wouldn’t have warrantied it.
@@AlexRuddFishing Shady as hell on Hobies part. Had to be a hobie cart to honor the warranty huh? lol. Unacceptable for such an expensive yak to fail that way.
That happens a lot of times with thru the scupper carts.
wondering if they are going to replace your hull, Good thing you found it when you did and diddnt actually sink it. I had to drag my new PA up a very similar cliff after I took delivery of it at the lake. They are no fun to move up cliffs.
Yes they’re going to replace the hull.
@@AlexRuddFishing thats good. Their customer service is awesome. I have been using the same Hobie dealer for years and now BONUS he is an Old Town dealer.
Which one do you find more stable, your PA 14 or that Nucanoe?
Ohhh s*^} forgot about the new one!!! That’s was cool Alex,,, not the hole but the trifecta and more!!!
Wow. surprised that happened , but looks like fishing was awesome though ,best of luck with your Hobie...
Unless the seal of that scupper is separated at the bottom too it looks like you could throw a scupper plug in there and still use the yak until the new hull comes.
The seal broke loose that’s where the water was coming in.
This is exactly why my primary is aPA14 and my creek kayak is the Hobie Lynx
11:45 “I’m sinking”
I thought hobie was made to take a scupper cart. Jackson folks told me to not use scuppers for anything that loads with weight. So, no carts, straps, stake out poles, etc… I did it with my wilderness and ocean kayak for years, but they were much lighter boats. Did warranty cover it? Seems like a skilled plastic welder could fix it. Maybe they would let you do it as a temp repair?
Big fan on John! He keeps it simple and flat catches fish!
I have 2 Jackson’s and a trailer of you want to get a local river float in one day.
I was using the Hobie brand cart - the guy who helped me file my warranty claim said they wouldn’t have done it if it wasn’t a Hobie brand cart.
Yes they covered it 6-8 weeks on a new hull.
Let’s plan a trip soon. Shoot me a DM and will get something going.
@@AlexRuddFishing glad they are standing by their product! Really strange that the cart designed for the kayak did that. Lucky you haha! I’ll shoot you a message. Hopefully some rain will help the river bite.
Man that sucks. Glad everything is ok. If I can recommend 1 thing. I have heard what a lot of companies say not to use that style of cart cause it can cause problems like that. I know boonedox make a cart specifically for the hobie.
That’s a Hobie brand cart I use and the guy told me they most likely wouldn’t have warrantied it if it wasn’t their brand.
@@AlexRuddFishing I didn't know hobie made a cart that way. Very cool. It's still very awesom that you are getting it taken care of.
Was just about to pick one of these up but not anymore
Looks like an awesome day right up until the kayak started sinking
After this invest in a pump, I have the little emergency kit with the float, whistle, pump, and sponge I keep it stored in the body where it doesn't get in the way.
John is one of the most great guys. Have talked to him in many places and he is the best. Brant at frontier is also a great guy. I've bought 2 kayak from there and I am planning on my next one coming from there. They have great product and service. My next one will be a nucanoe unlimited I have 2 natives and they are awesome. I just want to try the nucanoe
I can’t wait to mess around with mine.
@@AlexRuddFishing I have friends that have nucanoe and they love theirs
Man, keep posting videos I watch them all
When you got the hull did you literally get an empty hull that you had to transfer every part into, or did it actually end up being a ready to go hull? I just contacted my dealer yesterday to start a claim after my deck cracked at Lake of the Ozarks this weekend. Fun times lol
I transferred my seat and front hatch bin, everything else was there.
@@AlexRuddFishing Awesome ty Alex. I remembered this video as soon as mine cracked and knew you'd have the answer. Tight lines.
That's why I don't use kayak Dolly's goading through the scupper holes
Maybe skip the scupper cart with the new hull 😆
Why would they install a seal in the scupper holes? Vs having it molded in? If I’m investing a couple grand in a kayak I don’t want to have to baby it. I feel like it should take a beating over other brands.
1000% agree.
Anyone know where I could watch some backwater freshwater Florida kayak fishing? That's where I want to go fishing and in a Hobie!
My channel sooner then you think…
What brand are those glasses the ones with green lenses
Brand: Fin-Nor Frame: 12/0 - they’ll be releasing at ICAST.
Glad you made it out with minimal issue and Hobie is standing by their product. Just smacked a big rock last night and the pedal drive lock was obliterated.
Ugghhh! That’s what it’s made to do though. You can get another pretty easy.
@@AlexRuddFishing yup! It will be here on Tuesday!
Should be using a real cart like Wilderness Systems. Anything scupper based are trouble waiting to happen. Sorry this happened to you on the high dolla kayak.
I’m glad I was using the one I was because any other cart not Hobie brand would have voided the warranty.
What happened to that Old Town yaks?
Sold them.
Hey man i am from John's i am a sub here now too. God bless you both and your families.....🙏❤🙏❤🙏🙂😊😀
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Sorry about the whole but looks like you still had fun. You will get a new hull and have to add your h rails back on etc. But it will be a fresh start.
Yeah that’s what I was told. They said they’re might be a chance they’ll send me one pre rigged.
@@AlexRuddFishing oh that would be nice if they do that!!! The Nucanoe is a good back up!! I was thinking about getting one and just put a motor on it. Let me know how you like it for a quick getting around kayak and how stable.
Will do! I’m planning some creek fishing trips with it. Might even start doing to kayak camping and fishing.
The scupper cart strikes again!
That was a Hobie brand cart the guy who helped me with warranty said if it wasn’t a Hobie brand one they wouldn’t have covered it.
@@AlexRuddFishing I figured as much. It's crazy to see it still happen to "the kayak that built and designed to do it". Glad they're warrantying it, as they should with it being their products.
I know your pain dude, I got the camo 360, I'm waiting on a new hull
It’s sucks man! Just glad I got back ups and the boat.
Is frontier your dealer?
Yes
not fun when your vessel is filling with water lol
Whatever happened to the old town auto pilot 120 you had .. I missed something .
I sold it 2 years ago…
Why I've never used a cart. Especially the scupper mount style. 10 weeks is too long for a premium brand. Love my Hobie, but they have to do better.
I was using a Hobie brand cart and the guy who help my warranty my kayak said if it was any other brand they probably wouldn’t have warrantied it.
@@AlexRuddFishing i understand. my dealer mentioned that when I looked into carts. Basically that hobie has refused warranty on a few boondox installs. Don't know the details. However, my takeaway was that there's not a lot of difference between scupper mount carts. They all put pressure on the wall of the scupper in a way that it is not designed for.
If I ever get a cart, it will be a cradle style. They seem to be a pain but it's better than the alternative.
At least you weren't offshore, that would have been as they say a sitiation.
Always keep some plumbers putty with you for this purpose plug up any hole to get you home
What are you going to do with the one with the hole?
Keep until the warranty is complete and then repair it.
@@AlexRuddFishing I was going to say you can probably plastic weld it and have a good backup!
What brand sunglasses are those?
Fin-Nor, they’ll be releasing at ICAST. You can check them out here before they drop though 👉🏻 bit.ly/3QQAWds
it was muffin power for the win
What if you discovered that hole 3 or 4 miles offshore? On a new $5000 kayak, I would demand my money back. I admire your good nature though.
Truth!!
..., but the fishing was great video!!!!!!
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HA! Gonna be in the native like us cool kids now! 😎
I thought about you the other day when this happened 😂
@@AlexRuddFishing secretly , I'm extremely jealous of your fleet. Don't tell nobody 🤣
Here’s a method I use, take a fog machine and blow smoke into kayak and watch where the smoke comes out.
Spot was worth it.
For the kind of one pays for a hobie, I would think that should never happen… surely that was just a lemon.
Not that you don’t already know this….BUT….probably shoulda taken that NuCanoe on this trip. Lol.
What if the PA was my only kayak? I’d hope a $5k piece of plastic could do the job. Thanks for watching bud😁🤙🏻
A jerkbait with three hooks is more dangerous than a whopper plopped. It entailed a trip to the er. That little 8inch bass was a bad actor at one point all three hooks were in the fish and my hand at the same time. Good thing my grandson was there. I did learn that no matter how hard you try you can’t chock out them little heathen bass.
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Had the same problem on an older generation PA14. Didn’t have a warranty so used flex seal to fix it lol
Phil Swift would be proud.
Honoring a warranty these days is good.
10bweeks for the fix BULL., that's a whole season in some parts, they should at LEAST offer a new Yak or rental.
PS, Because @ 4 to 5 Grand I would expect it