I recently started playing puck. I'm at like 500+ games. I still confuse many things, but I learnt something. If you mentioned it or not I dont know but when you phase shift, there comes a arrow sign made of sparkles. If you blink toward that arrow in a 30 degree, you can blink out everything including chrono, bh etc. Thats a good tip for others if they dont know. Only thing I wanted to know when to initiate, because many times my team cant catch up to me and I die there :))
Thanks so much for this guide. Mic sounds great. I'm so happy you go into extensive all around gameplay, with matchups, lategame items, scaling. I find way to many guides focus purely on Laning which is alright, you can definitely loose games in the Laning stage, but seems like 9/10 times the lane goes reasonably even and most games are won/lost in what happens in the bulk of the actual game. Thanks again for the daily bread
As a puck player with 1000+ games and 5.3k mmr you said nothing new about puck BUT macro decisions in the game were actually useful. Thanks! More macro decisions haha!
I have over 10k dota games, So nothing new about puck however I watched the whole thing very useful, I just realized Parasme adds magic damage to the target, So now I know why Nisha some times goes parasma as first big Item, he has a TI winning team so no need to buy defensive as much, I will still need to get that euls xD
I loved your storm guide and this puck guide rocks ! hope to see more hero guides good sir :) it was fun watching the vid with my crunchy toasted bread ;)
Very nice guide man! Appreciate the in depth guidelines and tips! (Bread) Also it would be great if you had a separate videos for playing different matchups especially harder ones like dk, huskar and lone druide showcasing the use of spells/positioning.
As someone who spammed Bubbles over a decade ago in HoN and eventually migrated to DOTA 2, Puck has always held a special place in my heart even though I usually end up filling as support. Arcane Blink was initially hidden by your webcam so I was pleased to see you've also realised the insane value Puck gets with the reduced cooldown and HP/Mana restore on each blink. Between Phase Shift, Wind Waker and Arcane Blink it becomes impossible for Puck to die without the enemy investing all of their utility into just you; from my experience anyway. I'm curious as to whether you've tried Revenant's Brooch since the Scepter applies all attack modifiers? I've found it to be an adequate Rapier replacement in games where I don't feel comfortable carrying a Rapier due to unreliable teammates but still want the ability to cut through Agility heroes by hard switching my damage to all-in on magic damage. Curious to hear your thoughts. Great video, Mr. Baker ;)
I really love Puck too and have been having a lot of success with it Wonderbread. I was already going witchblade blink pretty much every game but the shard is a good shout and I liked how you broke down when to for KnS/BKB depending on enemy counters.
As a Try hard midlaner I enjoyed your videos regarding invoker and puck, I subscribed. As puck need to not overextend, because when i am ahead i do to much as puck and my teammates can't catch up, then i end up feeding a couple of times as you mentioned, then my enemies start to focusing me a lot and my guardian teammates can't do much about it, Another thing you mentioned is that in lower brackets supports dont tp mid or ward mid, it is very frustrating because i Just watched TI and when I see supports sometimes even offlaner fighting for a rune or for mid vision,then I go to my games and they just want me to gank if not they get tilted and feed, And I end up using my resources, I will try to gank at 6 until i am 10 and I have q and w maxed i will shove the lanes.
loved the guide, im 2k mmr and have been at 2-2.5k for last 2 years as i just play occassionally but i only play pos 4/5 but im tring to get into mid lately and this guide is definitely helpful.
Hi, very good guide, reminded me of moonmeander bubbles guide on hon many years ago. Two things. I see witch blade potential and still need to try it out more, but maelstrom helps farm early and the timing is still okay to be able to auto attack enemies instead of spells/flee/spells on late game fights. Probably too flashy and greedy to aim at a faster late game coil with aghs timing instead of focus damage, but i like it for scaling. Second thing is, +1 second of silence is op imo, better than the wave clear at lv 10 Definetly even more worth it against weaver/am/void etc.
Damn I had no idea Puck Shard worked on Towers, I've been rushing shard since it's inception and felt Puck push was way stronger after a certain point mid game game but I always attributed it to stat gains and the extra right click on phase, not the Shard's magic damage lol that's so good to know
absolutely great content! We thank you grand master ! For me you're a master of this game! I'm looking forward to learn more What tips you have for me at 3k mmr? I'm playing mid
Thanks for the video. Any tips on how to guarantee the ranged creep in the laning phase at lvl 3? I'm a support only player, but sometimes i get stuck mid and need a hero to default to lol. Bread.
puck is quite hard to master and i’ve been trying to improve with him recently but i noticed that i commit too hard and end up dead a lot. do you have any tips to get out of this bad habit of dying in general? i think it holds me back by a lot. i usually own my lanes or at least dont feed in them but then in the mid game i throw hard, and it feels especially worse when you’re dying as puck, as you said, cause the purpose of this hero is to be elusive. anyway, i love this guide, it cleared out a lot of questions i had about itemization as puck and gave me a good perspective on how to think while playing him. thank you! wonderbread!
I haven't played for 4 years (uni+full time job) . I'm slowly getting used to playing again. Can you make a guide on the different important timings? My fav champs used to be(and still are to a great extent) qop,invoker,sf,puck, ember and legion/pudge/mirana on not position 2 roles and I'm missing so many timings. I dunno what's going on xD
Does "not including but only mentioning daedalus for builds" mean daedalus is not potent as other core or situational items? BTW thank you for your content mr. Bread :) we look for your next probable leshrac guide
I think its too hard to fit deadalus in, aghs REALLY likes attack speed and mjlnir is so good with parasma debuff Rapier might just be better as well hard to fit deadalus in 6 items
I don't think you commented on [possibly going maelstrom/mjollnir before aghs but I sometimes like to do that against multiple tanky heroes cause it lets you do a lot more damage when just hitting them, and the aghs added damage feels too temporary is that something you can do or do you think aghs first every time is just best?
I want to ask something. If you have one ban chance, what would you ban? Which hero is nearly impossible to win against in laning, and hard to deal with in late. And a guarentee a loss If you cant catch up and cover early game for you?
I think whichever is more popular mid at your bracket sniper/templar heroes that are hard in-game/lane but you should be able to play vs ember/void spirit/kunkka/huskar/tiny/dragon knight
Wondering bread, why just not change sange and kaya for octarin basicly every game where you building sange and kaya? It gives you hp and mana also and 700 golds extra isnt too much. Sure there isnt spell amp, but i think that this -25% cd reduction has much more value. I didnt do math, but i dont think that there will be to much diference in terms of hp managment vs burst damage. Maybe if you make dagon there is argument for sange and kaya, but i dont see any other reason to go for it.
25% status resist can be life or death on puck since you have instant escape, octarine is very good too but people not very good at chain stunning in matchmaking
How do you open the "test menu" on the normal map? I hosted a lobby and I normally allow cheats and just enter -wtf or -gold 99999 Is it possible to use this with more people?
If you go to the armory and look in the world tab - you can demo terrain. Then you get the menu on the left hand side like you do when you demo heroes :)
I'm about half way through not sure if you go on to cover this but specialists array and witch blade interaction/ bug. Witch blade does not work if specialist array procs yet it still goes on cooldown. Does this not make it worth avoiding as a t2 neutral? Thanks.
I recently started playing puck. I'm at like 500+ games. I still confuse many things, but I learnt something. If you mentioned it or not I dont know but when you phase shift, there comes a arrow sign made of sparkles. If you blink toward that arrow in a 30 degree, you can blink out everything including chrono, bh etc. Thats a good tip for others if they dont know. Only thing I wanted to know when to initiate, because many times my team cant catch up to me and I die there :))
NEW MIC still tinkering with audio for videos pls let me know any feedback you guys have for future guides still new to this
Thanks so much for this guide. Mic sounds great. I'm so happy you go into extensive all around gameplay, with matchups, lategame items, scaling. I find way to many guides focus purely on Laning which is alright, you can definitely loose games in the Laning stage, but seems like 9/10 times the lane goes reasonably even and most games are won/lost in what happens in the bulk of the actual game. Thanks again for the daily bread
Tinkering??
Pucking love in depth long form guides! Wonder bread enjoyer.
omg shard bonus damage on every hit. Never have realised that. Thanks you sensei
As a puck player with 1000+ games and 5.3k mmr you said nothing new about puck BUT macro decisions in the game were actually useful. Thanks! More macro decisions haha!
I have over 10k dota games, So nothing new about puck however I watched the whole thing very useful, I just realized Parasme adds magic damage to the target, So now I know why Nisha some times goes parasma as first big Item, he has a TI winning team so no need to buy defensive as much, I will still need to get that euls xD
as 8k mmr puck player i appreciate this content as it still had useful stuff for people like me
Great guide! I am excited for a leshrac guide because that has always been my disaster hero mid. Gets me thinkin' bout wonderbread.
Wonder bread from a 2kmmr aspiring Puck player
I loved your storm guide and this puck guide rocks ! hope to see more hero guides good sir :) it was fun watching the vid with my crunchy toasted bread ;)
Thank you bread!
Very nice guide man! Appreciate the in depth guidelines and tips! (Bread) Also it would be great if you had a separate videos for playing different matchups especially harder ones like dk, huskar and lone druide showcasing the use of spells/positioning.
As someone who spammed Bubbles over a decade ago in HoN and eventually migrated to DOTA 2, Puck has always held a special place in my heart even though I usually end up filling as support. Arcane Blink was initially hidden by your webcam so I was pleased to see you've also realised the insane value Puck gets with the reduced cooldown and HP/Mana restore on each blink. Between Phase Shift, Wind Waker and Arcane Blink it becomes impossible for Puck to die without the enemy investing all of their utility into just you; from my experience anyway.
I'm curious as to whether you've tried Revenant's Brooch since the Scepter applies all attack modifiers? I've found it to be an adequate Rapier replacement in games where I don't feel comfortable carrying a Rapier due to unreliable teammates but still want the ability to cut through Agility heroes by hard switching my damage to all-in on magic damage. Curious to hear your thoughts.
Great video, Mr. Baker ;)
puck yeah, thanks for these detailed guides dude
I really love Puck too and have been having a lot of success with it Wonderbread. I was already going witchblade blink pretty much every game but the shard is a good shout and I liked how you broke down when to for KnS/BKB depending on enemy counters.
As a Try hard midlaner I enjoyed your videos regarding invoker and puck, I subscribed. As puck need to not overextend, because when i am ahead i do to much as puck and my teammates can't catch up, then i end up feeding a couple of times as you mentioned, then my enemies start to focusing me a lot and my guardian teammates can't do much about it, Another thing you mentioned is that in lower brackets supports dont tp mid or ward mid, it is very frustrating because i Just watched TI and when I see supports sometimes even offlaner fighting for a rune or for mid vision,then I go to my games and they just want me to gank if not they get tilted and feed, And I end up using my resources, I will try to gank at 6 until i am 10 and I have q and w maxed i will shove the lanes.
loved the guide, im 2k mmr and have been at 2-2.5k for last 2 years as i just play occassionally but i only play pos 4/5 but im tring to get into mid lately and this guide is definitely helpful.
Got myself a cup of soup to watch this whole video so I could dip some bread in it.
Great video, appreciate the conent.
You’re making some of the best dota content on TH-cam right now for me
Keep up the grind
Danny Puck Guide 🤠
This is amazing content. I was just looking for bread-detailed hero guide but for mid heroes.
Hi, very good guide, reminded me of moonmeander bubbles guide on hon many years ago. Two things. I see witch blade potential and still need to try it out more, but maelstrom helps farm early and the timing is still okay to be able to auto attack enemies instead of spells/flee/spells on late game fights. Probably too flashy and greedy to aim at a faster late game coil with aghs timing instead of focus damage, but i like it for scaling. Second thing is, +1 second of silence is op imo, better than the wave clear at lv 10
Definetly even more worth it against weaver/am/void etc.
silence talent not really necessary because of coil hard to not kill void/antimage during coil and then silence
Thanks for this! Trying to learn mid with Puck, finding it difficult, but fun. Bread btw.
Enjoyed wathcing this guide, thanks! and the bread recipe was quite good.
Damn I had no idea Puck Shard worked on Towers, I've been rushing shard since it's inception and felt Puck push was way stronger after a certain point mid game game but I always attributed it to stat gains and the extra right click on phase, not the Shard's magic damage lol that's so good to know
good guide thanks wonderbread
cool ty i puck nice hero
thanks for the guide bro. wonder bread.
wonder bread is nice, also this video was awesome, thanks for the content!
didn't watch it yet but just commenting to say I'm hyped about this one and mb it helps for the algorithm points^^
edit: bread
Bread, nice vid! I'm learning puck and this is very useful!
Bread, love this style of guide not much like it on TH-cam, could you do one on storm spirit next
superb bread!
Bring more guides pls ❤
absolutely great content! We thank you grand master ! For me you're a master of this game! I'm looking forward to learn more
What tips you have for me at 3k mmr? I'm playing mid
gank when you can during lane phase and farm more after lane phase
wonderbread :) really helpful just like the ember vid. thanks man-
u can actually turn your hero during the phase shift by using directional move
I generally play support, but I'm tempted to try to become the breadwinner and play puck
How do you lane against super harsh matchups like TA Lesh or Sniper? I feel like I fall so far behind, wonderbread
Great video thank you !!
Thanks for the video. Any tips on how to guarantee the ranged creep in the laning phase at lvl 3? I'm a support only player, but sometimes i get stuck mid and need a hero to default to lol. Bread.
puck is quite hard to master and i’ve been trying to improve with him recently but i noticed that i commit too hard and end up dead a lot. do you have any tips to get out of this bad habit of dying in general? i think it holds me back by a lot. i usually own my lanes or at least dont feed in them but then in the mid game i throw hard, and it feels especially worse when you’re dying as puck, as you said, cause the purpose of this hero is to be elusive. anyway, i love this guide, it cleared out a lot of questions i had about itemization as puck and gave me a good perspective on how to think while playing him. thank you! wonderbread!
bread: do void spirit next plz
Legend
nice video bread
I haven't played for 4 years (uni+full time job) . I'm slowly getting used to playing again. Can you make a guide on the different important timings? My fav champs used to be(and still are to a great extent) qop,invoker,sf,puck, ember and legion/pudge/mirana on not position 2 roles and I'm missing so many timings. I dunno what's going on xD
Wonder bread it is!
It's pronounced like myol-neer (ol as in old) xd sick guide though!
invoker guide please danny, bread
Does "not including but only mentioning daedalus for builds" mean daedalus is not potent as other core or situational items?
BTW thank you for your content mr. Bread :) we look for your next probable leshrac guide
I think its too hard to fit deadalus in, aghs REALLY likes attack speed and mjlnir is so good with parasma debuff
Rapier might just be better as well hard to fit deadalus in 6 items
Typically I prefer oat nut to wonder bread
I don't think you commented on [possibly going maelstrom/mjollnir before aghs but I sometimes like to do that against multiple tanky heroes cause it lets you do a lot more damage when just hitting them, and the aghs added damage feels too temporary
is that something you can do or do you think aghs first every time is just best?
I like fresh bread
Bread
I want to ask something. If you have one ban chance, what would you ban? Which hero is nearly impossible to win against in laning, and hard to deal with in late. And a guarentee a loss If you cant catch up and cover early game for you?
I think whichever is more popular mid at your bracket sniper/templar
heroes that are hard in-game/lane but you should be able to play vs ember/void spirit/kunkka/huskar/tiny/dragon knight
Thank you ❤️ od is more popular to be honest. And annoying one.
wonder bred
Wondering bread, why just not change sange and kaya for octarin basicly every game where you building sange and kaya? It gives you hp and mana also and 700 golds extra isnt too much. Sure there isnt spell amp, but i think that this -25% cd reduction has much more value. I didnt do math, but i dont think that there will be to much diference in terms of hp managment vs burst damage. Maybe if you make dagon there is argument for sange and kaya, but i dont see any other reason to go for it.
25% status resist can be life or death on puck since you have instant escape, octarine is very good too but people not very good at chain stunning in matchmaking
How do you open the "test menu" on the normal map? I hosted a lobby and I normally allow cheats and just enter -wtf or -gold 99999
Is it possible to use this with more people?
If you go to the armory and look in the world tab - you can demo terrain. Then you get the menu on the left hand side like you do when you demo heroes :)
hello how to get on this map?
algorithm
bread:D
I'm about half way through not sure if you go on to cover this but specialists array and witch blade interaction/ bug. Witch blade does not work if specialist array procs yet it still goes on cooldown. Does this not make it worth avoiding as a t2 neutral? Thanks.
if you drop witch blade or the neutral (i forgot which one) it removes the bug
as in like on the floor try it in demo mode
@@iAnnihilate ah nice man cheers
@@iAnnihilate I think its witch blade u gotta drop, just played a game, fixed it for sure tho
Lesh and pango pls
Bread btw
i sub to your guide but it still doesn’t pop up in dota any chance you know why?
try again now it might not have worked last time I published, did it again
AMAZING guide, really appreciate it. W0ND3RBR34D
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BREAD 🥐
Great video thank you !!