The Golden Ratio vs. The Rule of Thirds

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 พ.ย. 2024

ความคิดเห็น • 534

  • @darkravers009
    @darkravers009 10 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    When used in photography both have their respective strengths. Photographers mustn't forget however that they are merely guidelines used to illustrate technique to novices. Photographers will use one or another but will mostly follow their own 'eye'. Sometimes it fits in the 'rule of thirds' other times it fits in 'the golden ratio'. There is no right in any art form, regardless of what critics may say.

  • @Telleryn
    @Telleryn 10 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    My first rule of thumb is don't talk about my thumb.
    The second is to make sure I've taken the lense cap off

    • @kint5ugee
      @kint5ugee 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣🤣🤣

  • @moccoyen
    @moccoyen 9 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    Did she just say "for hundreds of years the rule of thirds has been one of the most universal accepted guidelines for composing photographs"? I didn't know photography has been around that long!

    • @kevinrooney6348
      @kevinrooney6348 8 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      +moccoyen the first photo was taken in 1826

    • @smb10011001
      @smb10011001 8 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      +Kevin Rooney She's ten years too early.

    • @kevinrooney6348
      @kevinrooney6348 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +smb10011001 please see dictionary.reference.com/browse/hundreds definition 4

    • @coolbionicle
      @coolbionicle 7 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      moccoyen The real mistake here is using the word photograph when she was reffering to portraits and pictures in general.

    • @BodhiGeraci
      @BodhiGeraci 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      this

  • @BuickGirl1986
    @BuickGirl1986 10 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    As a numberphile I am shocked they did not say Fibonacci once.

    • @CreativeMovieArts
      @CreativeMovieArts 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      i think they're just trying to get away from getting too technical on their video(and therefore avoiding mentioning fibonacci), which is good, because not everyone is a numberphile like you(or, as a matter of fact, me).

    • @indexMemories
      @indexMemories 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +BuickGirl1986 smh tbh fam

    • @omniaorbis
      @omniaorbis 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      shes just taking credit for something that already was created and had a name, thats all i can see

    • @statelypavinglandscaping1426
      @statelypavinglandscaping1426 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would they? the ratio is found in many number sets, Fibonacci is not unique, Lucas and Binet formulas as well...

    • @1dan1609
      @1dan1609 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too, in fact, I learned about Fibonacci before golden ratio. I even knew about the diagram but didn't know about the golden ratio

  • @JavierPortillo1
    @JavierPortillo1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Remember! These are NOT rules, they are GUIDES!

    • @AllHailTheKang
      @AllHailTheKang 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Unless you have a project you need to do, and they require you to use the rule of thirds

  • @CornyOnMain
    @CornyOnMain 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    "Thank you, Gyro"

  • @ArcaneEther
    @ArcaneEther 10 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    So the Golden Ratio is basically Fibonacci's Sequence?

    • @dennisdavis6943
      @dennisdavis6943 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yep, if you divide any number in the Fibonacci Sequence by the number before it, it will be close to the golden ratio (phi). and the further along you are in the sequence the closer the ratio will actually be to phi.

    • @jamez6398
      @jamez6398 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dennis Davis Any sequence that follows those set of rules will encroach on Phi, not just the Fibonacci Sequence. The Fibonacci Sequence is only special insofar as it is the first sequence in an uncountable infinite number of sequences.

    • @JNCressey
      @JNCressey 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      James Oldfield the terms don't need to be integers.
      For example consider the Fibonacci sequence divided by 2:
      0.5, 0.5, 1, 1.5, 2.5, 4...
      Still tends to the same ratio.

    • @jamez6398
      @jamez6398 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      JNCressey Oh. Well scratch that then. It's uncountably infinite. It is literally a Fibonacci sequence of unspecialness... :/

  • @JonathanMichael
    @JonathanMichael 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I thought the thing that makes a photo to look good are:
    1. Optics arrangement
    2. Sensor size
    3. Back Side Illumination
    4. Image Signal Processor
    5. Aperture and Exposure
    6. Stability of the lens (either by digital or OIS)

    • @SonYonatan
      @SonYonatan 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Their not talking about image quality. Its about what your eye looks at first. Like if you saw a picture arrange in a spiral your eyes would go around and straight into the center of what ever photo your looking at or drawing or advertisement. The rule of thirds you can see on a grid. The golden rule is in nature you can see it plants animals, whirlpools.

    • @SonYonatan
      @SonYonatan 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Johnathan Chambers *They're

    • @leif-axelberg6242
      @leif-axelberg6242 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh no, are you one of those digital photographers?

    • @RayDrouillard
      @RayDrouillard 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The optics and sensors and all that stuff are criteria for choosing a camera.
      We're not discussing that. We're talking about technique. After all, you can give a Leica to a hack, and he'll take snapshots. You can give a cell phone to an accomplished photographer, and he'll take high quality photos.
      So don't put a lousy driver in your Corvette.

    • @SatanistSin
      @SatanistSin 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's what makes a camera better than others. But you still need a good photographer to shoot good pictures.

  • @grannysvids
    @grannysvids 10 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Now I know what those grids were for! 😭

    • @hacker-7214
      @hacker-7214 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      lol me too😂

    • @jamez6398
      @jamez6398 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      iXbeXy I still don't ;__;

    • @SatanistSin
      @SatanistSin 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      James Oldfield lol. It's simple. Line up the thing you're taking a picture of (the subject) so that it touches two intersecting points on the grid. If your background isn't complete crap, the picture will look a million times better than if you just centered the subject. Also focusing the lens to blur out everything but the subject helps too.

    • @jamez6398
      @jamez6398 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      SatanistSin Thirdsing it ups easy but finboancaiiing it isn't

    • @SatanistSin
      @SatanistSin 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      James Oldfield you line the subject up with the smallest spiral.
      It ends up being just about the same thing though.

  • @t850terminator
    @t850terminator 8 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Okay, so how many of us came from Steel Ball Run?

  • @Eysc
    @Eysc 10 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    will look some porn pics to see if i can detect what method they used.

    • @exmo7
      @exmo7 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yo

    • @dahrrg
      @dahrrg 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dyexmax That's a terrifying image...

  • @TJDrumsRHCP
    @TJDrumsRHCP 10 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Message to everybody watching; fuck the rules, photography or film don't have any rules. Using these grids may be helpful but making use of this doesn't grant you a nice picture.

    • @jamez6398
      @jamez6398 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes it does :p

    • @TJDrumsRHCP
      @TJDrumsRHCP 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      James Oldfield You think making use of the grid will get you a nice picture?

    • @jamez6398
      @jamez6398 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      TheTwicey Did you even see that emoticon? -_-

    • @TJDrumsRHCP
      @TJDrumsRHCP 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      James Oldfield Ofcourse I did, but it could have been a sign u used to show that you were respectfully disagreeing which is possible.

    • @jamez6398
      @jamez6398 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      TheTwicey Nope

  • @CheerX9087
    @CheerX9087 8 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    She reminds me of Laura Prepon.

  • @santor420
    @santor420 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You limit yourself too much. The golden ratio is also used in designing aquarium aquascapes, gardens, landscapes and art.

  • @brothermaleuspraetor9505
    @brothermaleuspraetor9505 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I adopted these styles by myself before I even knew about them. This is not boasting, I'm pointing out that nature will just take it's course... I naturally preferred to take pictures using those ratios, because they just looked better to me! Wow.. now I know about this, I can't stop trying too hard now and my pics never feel as natural as they did before I knew about this.

  • @MattHendrickR
    @MattHendrickR 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd never really paid any attention to either. I just took photos in a way that I thought looked visually appealing. Then, one of my friends who is a professional photographer (I'm just a hobbyist), asked if I used the Golden Ratio to compose my photos, because it looked like I was. When I told him I had no idea, he thought it might be fun to see if my photos fit in the Golden Ratio. Surprisingly, most of my photos fit in the ratio really well; not all, but most.

  • @dampandrew
    @dampandrew 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    im taking a photography class right now and all that matters is getting the subjects framed properly with without any distractions. strictly adhering to rules of alignment is too orthodox and might just obscure the potential of a shot

  • @sduck409
    @sduck409 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That's the first time I've heard "eschew" used in a youtube. Bravo!

  • @shmekershmek
    @shmekershmek 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you DNews. I knew what the rule of thirds was but had never heard of the golden ratio.

  • @Ckamerad
    @Ckamerad 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Both are useful in different ways. Using rule of thirds is a guideline as is the spiral. The thirds rule is great when you are taking normal shots that are made to highlight the whole frame. Great for general portraits. I have used the spiral when it applies to curved lines and wanting to draw attention in a direction across a photo. For instance shots to show human form (nude, ballet, martial arts etc.) tend to look more pleasing to the human eye using the spiral. That being said these rules are a guide to start from. Composing a shot depends on many more factors than just a ratio or two.

  • @mydyingparadiselost
    @mydyingparadiselost 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I read an article not to long ago about how Nintendo seems to use the Golden Ratio on many of their more recent box arts on the WiiU. It's crazy how much of this stuff can go unnoticed until you learn about it, then it seems to be everywhere you look.

  • @sachadontcry
    @sachadontcry 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm so glad I stumbled upon this video, I love Tara and lost sight of her since destructoid. It made my day!

  • @zinzolin14
    @zinzolin14 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Golden Ratio seems to be something deeply ingrained in our existence. We see it in nature and even the cosmos, and our brains find it pleasing when we see something that follows the ratio. Interesting huh?

  • @zetsumeinaito
    @zetsumeinaito 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The golden ratio is found in almost everything. classical art, and architecture have used it as a rule of thumb for quite some time. It's even used to properly proportion bodies and faces. It's so ingrained in the psyche that when someone or thing doesn't approximate it, we tend to think he/she/it is ugly or unrealistic.

  • @RickMentore
    @RickMentore 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic explanation! Just got into photography and I must say that yours was the clearest most comprehensive explanation of this doctrine or guideline of photography. Thank you, I have subscribed and liked!

  • @CogniVision
    @CogniVision 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The rule I use for taking photos... I position the camera until what I see in the screen looks good.

  • @dat_chip
    @dat_chip 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This felt like a nice introduction to the concepts, but just as things were getting interesting, the video ends!?!

  • @lailakaasik5390
    @lailakaasik5390 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a photographer, know both (and all other "rules") but when taking pictures feel free to break the rules. The rules are just some sure ways to make a picture more interesting an pleasing to the eye, but if you find any other composition that works, go for it.

  • @Hubs88
    @Hubs88 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    The thing I find interesting about the Golden Spiral is that at every step the line looses some of it's curve. This can be carried out to infinity and the line will NEVER be strait.

  • @NoelKerns
    @NoelKerns 10 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I don't mean to sound rude, but honestly, if you can't compose an aesthetically pleasing photograph without having to compare it to some grid to see if it matches, photography may not be for you.

    • @geonerd
      @geonerd 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      The voice of sanity - thank you!
      If composition and 'art' was as simple as blindly placing the bird on a tic-tac-toe board or 'magic spiral,' we'd all be masters. Every image must find a balance of light and dark, textured and smooth, of contrasting or complimenting colors, etc. This necessary balance will never be achieved by blindly following some dumbed-down 'rule.' LOOK through the viewfinder and move the camera and subjects around until you find aesthetic appeal in the image. Push the shutter. IMO, if ROT ever enters your conscious thought process, 'You're doing it wrong!' ;)

    • @rouchlcw
      @rouchlcw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Noel Kerns these guides are helpful for people who just started tho lol snob much?

  • @Trainguyrom
    @Trainguyrom 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since both methods operate sub-consciously, how can we accurately say one is better than the other? Quantifying internal feelings/opinions has been a major issue in science for centuries, and no method has been able to accurately quantify a feeling without the quantities becoming relative to the person being examined.

  • @philthy122
    @philthy122 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never used the Fibonacci sequence in photography, but I do use it all the time in furniture making and timber craft, it gives a better aesthetic and aids in functionality when one required dimension is used determine other nonspecific dimensions.

  • @RayDrouillard
    @RayDrouillard 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Since my cameras have a rule of thirds grid, I use that as a general guideline. I kind of mentally take a step back and look at the whole photo to see how it looks.
    Since the advent of high quality digital cameras, I have started taking several pictures with different compositions so that I can study them later, then choose and crop as needed.
    It's interesting to note that the Gimp (free and open source image editor) offers both a rule of thirds and golden ratio grid.
    The two are actually quite similar.
    I suppose you could choose one and precisely put the point of interest at one of the four intersections. For that matter, a computer would be quite adept at doing the same thing.
    But it is art more than science. The best thing to do is to use whatever rule you like to get things approximately where they should be, then use your artistic eye to shoot that perfect photo.

  • @AveryMilieu
    @AveryMilieu 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    MY guidelines?
    "Is it in the frame?" and "Is there enough light?" and ""Is it in focus?"
    But I'm known for being an indifferent photographer.

    • @jamez6398
      @jamez6398 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Clearly not an artist. More of a natural photographer.

    • @ScionStorm1
      @ScionStorm1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      James Oldfield Natural photographer? A little lofty in the title. More like "casual pic-snapper".

  • @AnnapurnaMoffatt
    @AnnapurnaMoffatt 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    During my first (foundation) year of art school five years ago, the golden ratio was talked about in 2D design class--but not taught well, and I still struggle to understand it beyond the fact that I know that it's found in nature a lot (nautilus shells being a really good example) and works like the Vitruvian Man (also: the math that Tara talked about went WAAAAYYYY over my head--however, it's me, not her). Once I started my diploma in photography, however, the golden ratio was never mentioned--but the rule of thirds, which I immediately understood, was. So for me (I'm only speaking for myself on this subject), while the examples that DNews uses for the golden ratio are just as nice compositionally as the images used to demonstrate the rule of thirds, the rule of thirds is better simply because I understand it--and I've been able to get a lot of beautiful images while using it.

  • @petersigma
    @petersigma 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Golden Section rule says that you allign a center of interest on a golden section proportion of Height or Width. Your first picture of the Blonde Girl showing the thirds grid ACTUALLY lines her eyes ( the center of interest) on the Golden Section proportion. .618 .382

  • @ginnyjollykidd
    @ginnyjollykidd 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    This gives a good set of examples of how the Golden Ratio or Golden Mean creates aesthetics.

  • @YrjoPuska777
    @YrjoPuska777 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Naturally it depends on many factors. But if i had to give some general rule about the two, id say that golden ratio when you want some detail to be composed so that it gets attention and rule of thirds when you want to separate different segments of an image.

  • @Sakura11101
    @Sakura11101 10 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Isn't that just Fibonacci's sequence? Why give it a whole new name?

    • @javiere.gonzalez1021
      @javiere.gonzalez1021 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A sequence and a number are different

    • @fy-
      @fy- 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not just Fibonacci sequence can make Phi, there are infinite other sequences that can make that too.

    • @Sakura11101
      @Sakura11101 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was referring specifically to the title "the golden ratio". I've never heard that title before, as I have only been familiar with phi and fibonacci's sequence as the names.

    • @Donaam
      @Donaam 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The ratios between each number in the fibonacci sequence converge to phi but are never actually equal to phi.

    • @LucasSpurrell
      @LucasSpurrell 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well, the Fibonacci sequence is the name given to s specific sequence that approaches the golden ratio. 1,1,2,3,5,8, etc. It's the one that starts with two 1's. But really you can start a sequence with any two numbers and follow the same rule and get closer to the golden ratio. 4,16,20,36,56,92 or 9,200,209,409,618,1027. So the Fibonacci sequence is just one of the sequences that follows the golden ratio. It's just famous because of how neat and small it is. It's the smallest sequence using whole numbers.

  • @ManintheArmor
    @ManintheArmor 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When taking a photo, one thing I tend to do is prevent overfocus on one aspect of an image. Take a picture of a face? Make sure there's a neck attached to it as well nd shoulders nearby; don't neglect what's holding the head up. Foot fetish? I want to see the person's face as well so I'll know who's stuff it is. Same thing with cleavage; boobs aren't anything if they have no personality behind them.
    The subject of an image needs something to compare to, to bring contrast, disparity. It becomes harder to appreciate, or notice, the object of interest if there is nothing else to compare. It is hard to appreciate the brightness of a candle if it has no darkness to combat.

  • @lol.of.the.rings.
    @lol.of.the.rings. 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Odd. Apparently I have subconsciously been favoring Golden Ratio photography for the composition of most my pics. I do find that having the main subject of your photo to be smack up and center of your picture makes the photo bland, obvious, and too boring. Golden Ratio adds fluidity to the pic and naturally seems to guide your eyes where you want the main focus to go, and finding that composition while taking g a picture actually makes photography much more fun for me. 😺

    • @paag.7308
      @paag.7308 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      So you used the golden ratio to set your subject or did u just eyeball it.

  • @Descalabro
    @Descalabro 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's a great amount of hearsay knowledge thrown in as actual knowledge in this video.

  • @zxcvbnm2992
    @zxcvbnm2992 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    since we have technology that can track the eyes it would be interesting to know where people who aren't exposed to pictures much loo when showed different pictures, seems like that would be the ultimate test of where to put subjects

  • @TaraDobbs
    @TaraDobbs 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's not just for photography. For goodness sakes, it's for all forms are art - traditional drawings and paintings, digital drawings and paintings, sculpture, it can even be used in landscaping a garden.

  • @Ambidexgame
    @Ambidexgame 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So which one is better for taking a selfie?

  • @ShadowDrakken
    @ShadowDrakken 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Try both, then keep the one that looks better. In the world of digital cameras you can afford to do that. It's not like you're wasting any film :)

    • @djgamer5546
      @djgamer5546 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a pretty good point, although it may not apply as well if you're photographing an animal, sporting event, weather or similar thing where timing is crucial and you may not get the same opportunity twice.

    • @ThePhonk
      @ThePhonk 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      As long you know what you're doing it's fine to try different techniques. It's great that you can do this but its also the downside of digital cameras: It's so easy to not think about your photo at all because you might not value the cost and effort in taking pictures.

    • @ShadowDrakken
      @ShadowDrakken 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Being a newbie to photography, I'm still in the phase of thinking about every shot, wondering how to make it better and if I'm following the "rules" correctly (knowing full well that they're guidelines, not rules ;) )
      But I also never intend to go pro with my work either, I will always be a newbie because it's just a hobby for me, and not one I dedicate much time or investment into.

    • @RayDrouillard
      @RayDrouillard 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      *****
      If you're a newbie, the best thing to do is take lots and lots of pictures. Since some cameras have sound recorders for the purpose of taking notes, you might want to make use of it -- uttering your thoughts as you snap each frame.

    • @ScionStorm1
      @ScionStorm1 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ray Drouillard Sound recorders... I wonder if Peter Parker knows about that. Imagine Spider-Man getting the entire audio track to a fight with the Green Goblin in addition to photos for the Daily Bugle newspaper.

  • @Palmstar125
    @Palmstar125 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always use the rule of thirds. I'm gonna start using the golden ratio too. Thank you.

    • @jamez6398
      @jamez6398 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not even if a man pointed a gun at your head? :/

    • @archit4289
      @archit4289 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      golden ratio looks hard and time consuming

  • @LeriObba
    @LeriObba 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you based DNews for placing commercial on end of video.

  • @davdkiesewalter7338
    @davdkiesewalter7338 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you begin to argue what grid is better, then you clearly missed the point.
    In the end it comes down to: Be aware that centered objects may look (intentionally) stiff.
    Be aware that objects at the borders tend to be not obvious to the viewers(, when not supported by other composition tricks like spirals).

  • @kevindiaz3459
    @kevindiaz3459 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty good explanation, but I am more of the rule of "shoot whatever you want however you want" type of guy. These "rules' are great for those that are jsut learning how to compose/frame up in the most appealing way. In the end though, they aren't so much rules as they are guides. To call them rules is a total misnomer.

  • @lrlimits
    @lrlimits 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice vid. I was curious about the math, but the photography angle is really fun

  • @rawstarmusic
    @rawstarmusic 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I object to the concept of this video. Having a commercial in the beginning, forming a content related to or created by the sponsor and finally a commercial in the end.

  • @carlosalexandreFAT
    @carlosalexandreFAT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The association of the main numbers in the field of mathematics with each other, reflects numerical sequences that correspond to the dimensions of the Earth, the Moon, and the Sun in the unit of measurement in meters, which is: 1' (second) / 299792458 m/s (speed of light in a vacuum).
    Ramanujan number: 1,729
    Earth's equatorial radius: 6,378 km.
    Golden number: 1.61803...
    • (1,729 x 6,378 x (10^-3)) ^1.61803 x (10^-3) = 3,474.18
    Moon's diameter: 3,474 km.
    Ramanujan number: 1,729
    Speed of light: 299,792,458 m/s
    Earth's Equatorial Diameter: 12,756 km. Earth's Equatorial Radius: 6,378 km.
    • (1,729 x 299,792,458) / 12,756 / 6,378) = 6,371
    Earth's average radius: 6,371 km.
    The Cubit
    The cubit = Pi - phi^2 = 0.5236
    Lunar distance: 384,400 km.
    (0.5236 x (10^6) - 384,400) x 10 = 1,392,000
    Sun´s diameter: 1,392,000 km.
    Higgs Boson: 125.35 (GeV)
    Phi: 1.61803...
    (125.35 x (10^-1) - 1.61803) x (10^3) = 10,916.97
    Circumference of the Moon: 10,916 km.
    Golden number: 1.618
    Golden Angle: 137.5
    Earth's equatorial radius: 6,378
    Universal Gravitation G = 6.67 x 10^-11 N.m^2/kg^2.
    (((1.618 ^137.5) / 6,378) / 6.67) x (10^-20) = 12,756.62
    Earth’s equatorial diameter: 12,756 km.
    The Euler Number is approximately: 2.71828...
    Newton’s law of gravitation: G = 6.67 x 10^-11 N.m^2/kg^2. Golden number: 1.618ɸ
    (2.71828 ^ 6.67) x 1.618 x 10 = 12,756.23
    Earth’s equatorial diameter: 12,756 km.
    Planck’s constant: 6.63 × 10-34 m2 kg.
    Circumference of the Moon: 10,916.
    Gold equation: 1,618 ɸ
    (((6.63 ^ (10,916 x 10^-4 )) x 1.618 x (10^3)= 12,756.82
    Earth’s equatorial diameter: 12,756 km.
    Planck's temperature: 1.41679 x 10^32 Kelvin.
    Newton’s law of gravitation: G = 6.67 x 10^-11 N.m^2/kg^2.
    Speed of Sound: 340.29 m/s
    (1.41679 ^ 6.67) x 340.29 - 1 = 3,474.81
    Moon's diameter:: 3,474 km.
    Cosmic microwave background radiation:
    2.725 kelvins
    160.4 GHz,
    Pi: 3.14
    Earth's polar radius: 6,357 km.
    ((2,725 x 160.4) / 3.14 x (10^4) - (6,357 x 10^-3) = 1,392,000
    The diameter of the Sun: 1,392,000 km.
    Numbers 3, 6 & 9 - Nikola Tesla
    One Parsec = 206265 AU = 3.26 light-years = 3.086 × 10^13 km.
    The Numbers: 3, 6 and 9
    ((3^6) x 9) - (3.086 x (10^3)) -1 = 3,474
    The Moon's diameter: 3,474 km.
    Now we will use the diameter of the Moon.
    Moon's diameter: 3,474 km.
    (3.474 + 369 + 1) x (10^2) = 384,400
    The term L.D (Lunar Distance) refers to the average distance between the Earth and the Moon, which is 384,400 km.
    Moon's diameter: 3,474 km.
    ((3+6+9) x 3 x 6 x 9) - 9 - 3 + 3,474 = 6,378
    Earth's equatorial radius: 6,378 km.
    Orion: The Connection between Heaven and Earth eBook
    1
    Arthur Geometry

  • @williamdeschamps4032
    @williamdeschamps4032 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks that was an incredibly useful and helpful video, great upload.

  • @apastoys5153
    @apastoys5153 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the first time I've heard of the Golden Ratio. I've alway use the Rule of Thirds. My iPhone uses thirds when I edit.

  • @H0A0B123
    @H0A0B123 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    1:47 how is b/a=1.618... when a is bigger than b ?

    • @H0A0B123
      @H0A0B123 10 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      and (a+b)/b actually = 1+a/b and doesn't = b/a nor 1.618... ,they switched a and b ... fail

    • @wizewaze
      @wizewaze 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      As she said in the video... A = total length of the line - a point on the line separates the line into 2 segments - B = 1 segment of the line A - C = other segment of the line - so neither B or C can ever be longer (or bigger) than A as they are defined as a segment of A

  • @Bjornhuhu
    @Bjornhuhu 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Clear, educative.
    Good job.

  • @garyedwards3269
    @garyedwards3269 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Golden Ratio is an irrational number that continuously changes. Therefore it is the shape of CHAOS.
    The 'Rule of Thirds' (sometimes referred to as the 1-2-3 PRINCIPLE) is the shape of ORDER.
    Inbetween Order and Chaos is BALANCE which is a separate element in and of itself that is 1/2 ORDER and 1/2 CHAOS.
    The combination of ORDER-BALANCE-CHAOS is a dynamic systems theory that some call the 'Hegelian Dialectic'...
    THESIS-SYNTHESIS-ANTITHESIS
    Or...
    PARADOX SYSTEMS THEORY.
    Here's some examples...
    PAST
    PRESENT
    FUTURE
    PROTON
    NEUTRON
    ELECTRON
    HEIGHT
    WIDTH
    DEPTH
    ETERNITY
    TEMPORALITY
    OBLIVION
    MOTION
    VIBRATION
    NONMOTION
    FAST
    DECELERATION
    SLOW
    SLOW
    ACCELERATION
    FAST
    LIGHT
    TWILIGHT
    DARKNESS
    BLACK
    GRAY
    WHITE
    BLUE
    RED
    YELLOW
    PURPLE
    ORANGE
    GREEN
    BACKGROUND
    MIDDLE GROUND
    FOREGROUND
    OPENING GAME
    MIDDLE GAME
    END GAME
    INDIVIDUAL
    COMMUNITY
    GOVERNMENT
    ORTHODOX
    HETERODOX
    HERESY
    FATHER
    CHILD
    MOTHER
    MALE
    HERMAPHRODITE
    FEMALE
    CHILDHOOD
    MIDDLE AGE
    OLD AGE
    BODY
    MIND
    SPIRIT
    SOLID
    LIQUID
    GAS
    HOT
    LUKEWARM
    COLD
    EVAPORATION
    MELTING
    CRYSTALLIZATION
    CHAOS
    BALANCE
    ORDER
    DORIC
    IONIC
    CORINTHIAN
    FATHER
    SON
    HOLY SPIRIT
    GROWTH
    HARVEST
    DECAY
    PLENTY
    SCARCITY
    FAMINE
    MEDICINE
    FOOD
    POISON
    HEALTHY
    SYMPTOMATIC
    SICKNESS
    IGNORANCE
    LEARNING
    WISDOM
    SCIENCE
    METAPHYSICS
    RELIGION
    MASTER
    FREEMAN
    SLAVE
    SACRED
    UNDECIDED
    PROFANE
    GOOD
    PLAIN
    EVIL
    RIGHT
    CHANGE
    WRONG
    TRADITIONAL
    CONTEMPORARY
    NOUVEAU
    SAFE
    DANGEROUS
    SUICIDE
    PEACE
    TRUCE
    WAR
    SILENCE
    SYMPHONY
    CACAPHONY
    WALTZ MUSIC
    SYNCOPATED RYTHYMS
    JAZZ
    FORMAL
    COLLOQUIAL
    INFORMAL
    MASCULINE FORM
    NEUTER FORM
    FEMININE FORM
    EXECUTIVE
    JUDICIAL
    LEGISLATIVE
    FEDERAL
    STATE
    LOCAL
    RESIDENTIAL
    COMMERCIAL
    INDUSTRIAL
    UPPER CLASS
    MIDDLE CLASS
    LOWER CLASS
    WINNING
    GAMBLING
    LOSING
    HOMEOWNERSHIP
    RENT
    HOMELESSNESS
    PITCH
    YAW
    ROLL
    FISSION
    STABLE
    FUSION
    ATOMIC X-Y-Z AXIS
    THREE ELECTRON PROBABILITY AREAS...
    1/3 AND 2/3 FRACTIONAL CHARGES IN QUARKS
    FIBONACCI NUMBERS
    (THE TRIUNE BRAIN)
    REPTILIAN COMPLEX
    PALEOMAMMALIAN COMPLEX
    NEOMAMMALIAN COMPLEX
    SUPERCONDUCTOR RATIOS.
    The 1-2-3 Principle is imbedded in the Periodic Table of the Elements...(N squared times 2 determines electron shell numbers.)
    SEE ALSO:
    1. E=MC2
    2. TESLA'S 3-6-9
    3. 1+2+3 = 1×2×3
    4. BIBLICAL THREES
    5. ATOMIC X-Y-Z AXIS
    6. CHROMOELECTRODYNAMICS
    7. BUDDHA'S MIDDLE PATH
    8. SUPERCONDUCTOR RATIOS
    9. HEISENBERG UNCERTAINTY PRINCIPLE
    10. QUARKS
    11. FAIRYTALES (Goldilocks, etc)
    12. TRUISMS ("Third times the charm")
    13. FREEMASONRY (3 DEGREES, 3 GREAT LIGHTS, 3 SETS OF WORKING TOOLS THAT COME IN THREES, ETC...)
    If you need more chaos in your art, use the Golden Ratio or a FIBONACCI SPIRAL.
    If you need more ORDER, use the Rule of Thirds.
    If you want a harmonic BALANCE of both...use both.

  • @petersigma
    @petersigma 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your Head and Elbows, (medium shot) is composed well. It does not put a frame line at a natural joint. The head and elbows cuts at the navel, ( which is the middle of the abdominal part of the body) ie Just under the elbows of the folded arms.

  • @weylin6
    @weylin6 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't know there was a whole formula or term to all this, I just found that a particular layout is more visually appealing, but I could never explain why, but most pictures I've taken oddly fit in to this golden rule.
    I've never gotten technical with it, I just went by gut feel, and people seemed to like it
    **shrug**

  • @OG_Stu
    @OG_Stu 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I take photos with a nikon and develop/print on canon
    *#Anarchy*

    • @eIucidate
      @eIucidate 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe that's why the ad was for a Canon printer and not camera :)

  • @farooqawan693
    @farooqawan693 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for such information, I like both rules.

  • @teamjamz65
    @teamjamz65 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    you just took a universal algorithm that is at the basis of the function and design of our universe and turned into a photography commercial

  • @rayhanmorales1364
    @rayhanmorales1364 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:13 "Somewhere in the middle of that line there is a point separating it into two segments of different lengths".

  • @pixiedustandcastles
    @pixiedustandcastles 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did you get your glasses? I love them!

  • @TheThreatenedSwan
    @TheThreatenedSwan 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    lol, there is a picture with the main subject (milky way) centered in a picture behind Tara

  • @Henchman_Holding_Wrench
    @Henchman_Holding_Wrench 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Crop large raw shots. Get both out of one photo. And what if I lined up my pictures in between the intersecting points from both grids? Does it create super tension?

    • @oBCHANo
      @oBCHANo 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would you want to crop and lose resolution?

    • @Henchman_Holding_Wrench
      @Henchman_Holding_Wrench 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      oBLACKIECHANoo
      I don't really need a full 8 megapixel photo for anything. Even when I do crop, it doesn't take much to change between those 2 grids.

  • @britnyank9002
    @britnyank9002 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting...and I think I just fell in love.

  • @cjsdus
    @cjsdus 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do one video about the triple point!

  • @kken8766
    @kken8766 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    informative, clear, simple. great video~gj~

  • @TheJaredtheJaredlong
    @TheJaredtheJaredlong 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    It really depends on the nature of the composition. It's silly to think that there's ever a single supreme method that will work equally well in all scenarios.

  • @modernyoutubecontent341
    @modernyoutubecontent341 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Talking about the rule of thirds whilst standing rigghhhhhhhttt in the middle ...derpy

    • @bassgasmask
      @bassgasmask 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      well i don't think they were going for a dramatic/artistic shot here, so...

    • @lehoang5869
      @lehoang5869 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      uhm... why the center is bad? photographers and painters have had using center line since the beginning of art, it's not bad by any mean. And btw the rule of third is mediocre, unbalanced, and uninteresting, just stop using it

  • @ImaGhostSoul
    @ImaGhostSoul 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    How do I apply the golden ratio while I take pics?

    • @inefekt
      @inefekt 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Take out your calculator, apply it to your hand held Golden Rule guide and then................oh wait, it's too late you've missed the moment.

    • @ImaGhostSoul
      @ImaGhostSoul 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Okay? I don't care for any rude people.

    • @ScionStorm1
      @ScionStorm1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ImaGhostSE It doesn't have to be exact, especially not immediately as you take the picture with a digital camera. As long as you have a general idea of where things might line up your good for that. For more accuracy, try cropping the photo-later- after you have taken the shot.

    • @OkayHosein
      @OkayHosein 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Some good cameras actually have indicators within the viewfinder which align with the golden ratio instead of the rule-of-thirds. Pentax, for instance.
      The K-3 indicators for the AF points indicate the Golden Ratio within a golden rectangle [not the 1:1.5 frame]. The SF1/SFx has the width of the focus indicator LEDs at the bottom of the frame be the same as the width of the lines within a golden rectangle also. (Not sure about the side indicators). Other cameras may have something similar.

  • @MerpSquirrel
    @MerpSquirrel 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So which grid should I put my finger in?

  • @ashleyrandall5408
    @ashleyrandall5408 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    "The main complaint with the Rule of Thirds is that it can look too obvious, where as the Phi Grid makes photos appear more natural and less rigid." Well, yeah, when one subject is a rocky coast, and the other is a fence whose man-made lines follow the RoT grid perfectly, haha. Let's see the Golden Ratio version of that fence picture side-by-side with the one used in the example.

  • @SebastianBlix
    @SebastianBlix 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I learned somthing today. Thanks DNews!

  • @Sempermac
    @Sempermac 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm surprised I've never heard of either of these techniques.

  • @TopShot501st
    @TopShot501st 10 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I sorry a picture is a fucking picture to me. I could care less about there the center point on an object's focus could be.

    • @oBCHANo
      @oBCHANo 10 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      That's because you're a moron.

    • @Benth3rdoneth4t
      @Benth3rdoneth4t 10 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      as a person that is getting a degree in computer graphics and design, this comment was very painful to read.

    • @Siberius-
      @Siberius- 10 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Couldn't* care less.. I'm not trying to be a grammar nazi, that's just the one that hits the nerve lol, I have even seen shirts say "could". When the whole idea is that they couldn't.. care less.

    • @ilovesparky13
      @ilovesparky13 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gilbert Flowerface just get over it. some people say "could" and others say "couldn't."

    • @ilovesparky13
      @ilovesparky13 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      damn, I'm surprised by all the hate you're getting.

  • @AaronNashor
    @AaronNashor 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching strange mystery's episode on the golden ratio made like no sense to me as there was no true explanation of what the ratio had to do with all the pictures shown, but in the short 1:45 of this video I learned that which strange mysteries had me confuse.

  • @jrworthy
    @jrworthy 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    So you mention a Canon product by name but you don't have a link to it anywhere in the video nor the description. Smooth.

  • @GRIEF3RUK
    @GRIEF3RUK 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Use Both as well as rectangle of rebatment.

  • @davidcanatella4279
    @davidcanatella4279 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Photograghs have only been around for 174 years. The rule of thirds was use in painting though for hundreds of years.

  • @ehodzic155
    @ehodzic155 10 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I like the rule of thirds better, its so much more simple to understand. lol

  • @obyriettacorner6746
    @obyriettacorner6746 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great explanation

  • @brostepisthebest
    @brostepisthebest 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't even know about this but I have been doing it.

  • @tommylong5115
    @tommylong5115 10 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Tool is the greatest band ever.

    • @Keegeth
      @Keegeth 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      tommy Long do you know the pieces fit?

  • @nathandoylemusic
    @nathandoylemusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    ABC (accuracy+brevity+clarity) is also a good ‘Rule of thirds’ when attempting to deliver information and remain succinct, interesting and informative, sorry but I could only hack one third of this due to the high-speed waffle.

  • @Dyslexic-Artist-Theory-on-Time
    @Dyslexic-Artist-Theory-on-Time 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an invitation to see a theory on the nature of time! In this theory we have an emergent uncertain future continuously coming into existence relative to the spontaneous absorption and emission of photon energy. In this process we even have an objective reason for the start of the Fibonacci numbers 0, 1, 1,... with the t = 0 and the positive +1 and negative -1 representing the positive and negative of electromagnetic waves with everything being based on one geometrical process. In this theory the future is not random it is based on a process of spherical symmetry forming and breaking. Spherical symmetry forms the low entropy that we see if we look back in time at the ‘big bang’ and also forms the potential for ever greater symmetry formation that we have in cell life with the Fibonacci spiral being visible almost everywhere in nature! This is because if the quantum wave particle function Ψ or probability function is reformulated as a linear vector then all the information I have found says that each new vector is formed by adding the two previous vectors together this forms the Fibonacci Sequence 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, ∞ infinity!

  • @Mallory-Malkovich
    @Mallory-Malkovich 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey DNews, here's a question: Which comes first, the sponsor, or the video topic?

  • @louislegofilms723
    @louislegofilms723 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really don't like the rules... I just try to make the shot look nice.

    • @graysonw8660
      @graysonw8660 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      the golden ratio does not restrict creative freedom just like the chromatic scale in music does not

  • @oneeyedphotographer
    @oneeyedphotographer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    In response to each one, you should ask, "Why is it so?"
    I reckon each one is nonsense. Ansel Adams is reputed to have said, "There are no rules in photography, just good photographs." I myself have seen highly effective photograph were both notions were purposefully set aside. If they don't apply all the time, then they are not rules.

  • @threadkiller9143
    @threadkiller9143 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top left is what we were taught in advertising ..top left being focal point

  • @ksalbrecht88
    @ksalbrecht88 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Golden Ratio is the same thing that people also like to refer to as God's Fingerprint. As they said in the videos it is a spiral measurement that is so precise & can be found all over the universe.

  • @ck0024
    @ck0024 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nicely covered

  • @greatgodofwonders1023
    @greatgodofwonders1023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It takes million light years for me to understand

  • @amsc123
    @amsc123 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This whole video was shot on golden ratio camera lens, no doubt people got instant attraction!

  • @Fugazity
    @Fugazity 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fibonacci's Sequence

  • @abirneji
    @abirneji 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't actually know what those gridlines were but thats cool
    but they seem overcomplicated

  • @Living_Life242
    @Living_Life242 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Along with photography, understanding the Golden Ratio can allow you to make steel balls spin like crazy in your hand or, if you're riding a horse with stirrups, you can access the infinite energy contained between dimensions.
    ORA!ORA!ORA!ORA!ORA!

  • @herpsenderpsen
    @herpsenderpsen 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Could you make a video about the Fibonacci in nature?