DOES UNICORN GUNDAM BREAK THE GAME? UNICORN GAMEPLAY - RANK 17 PLAYER || Gundam Evolution
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 เม.ย. 2024
- Does Unicorn Gundam break Gundam Evolution by being too strong? This video will answer this and explain through my though process on this subject!
I'm a rank 17 network test Gundam Evolution player, and top 100 SR peak Overwatch player with 4 years of hero shooter experience, so you can rest assured that I've got a bunch for you to know in this gameplay analysis!
Timestamps:
0:00 - The Verdict
5:30 - What this does
5:02 - The fix
Let me know what you guys thought, and I would LOVE to answer any questions you all have for me
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I suggest when you're trying to make a point about something in game like balancing, do it while you aren't actively playing a game. You kind of prattle on a bit a few times in this video because most of your attention is in game and not on the arguments you're trying to make.
This, nothing personal, it's just a bit all over the place as far as commentary goes. I'd recommend using prerecorded footage for the background gameplay and writing up some notes to pin down the dialog.
I like how the commentary is live
Glad you like it! It makes it harder to play definitely, but it’s worth it 😅
I think what pushes unicorn over the edge for me, is how oppressive something like Unicorn, Methuss, and GM feels. It's a lot of sustain and just becomes a cooldown battle to me.
Yeeeep, too much sustain gets busted. If they want to just artificially curb it then make it so healing values don’t stack, and make unicorn gundam’s armor just healing
We got overwatch goats comp in gundam evo?
the reload for the skin throws me off. lol the unicorns head.
It’s such a cool skin tho 👀
@@Dunmuir it is for sure🦄
Unicorns passice aura at minimum cancels out Guntanks unfocused fire damage, which I don't know if that says more about umUni or Guntank.
Guntank for sure
Guntank unfocused is pretty much useless. Tiny damage distributed to multiple enemies at lower rate of fire would just be telling that group of enemies to melt you instead.
@@chetawanung-adjmagool9967 I've played an absurd amount of Guntank. The unfocused ticking damage is extremely effective for one thing: building ult. Only a couple of seconds of hitting 3+ enemies at once charges his g-man absurdly quickly.
I do think it’s good that both of your real healers only have 800 hp but having both Unicorn and Methuss on a team makes games a lot easier to win
Unicorn is almost as big as Sazabi,makes it a good target for flankers like barbatos
Yeah his heads visible over a lot of cover that others aren't
I really don't understand the charge slam of Barbatos at all.
Whenever I use it, it always misses even when it looks like it hits.
Whenever anyone else uses it, they're a sniper with it.
it pushes you forward a bit best advice I can give is actually try releasing it earlier.
@@Saddawg-cz7yw I'll give that a shot, ty.
Only reason I'm trying to learn Barbatos is to be able to use a unit that can CC important targets whenever the rest of my team is lacking CC.
@@Shuyin128MK4 Another thing, it was found that Barbatos' right click isn't a moving hitbox like it's animation suggests, it's a sort of "hit scan"
if the enemy is below the reticle, despite the animation swinging down, it won't connect so you need to aim with it too
@@EcoHound That.... would explain a lot. I was believing the animation.
@@EcoHound damn that's dumb af, do reason I miss when so hit even when the mace goes through their body.
Not sure if its a consistent thing for barbados. Here is another broken thing about him I experienced in one match. While playing zaku ranged, I would bait out his slam and make him miss. I then instantly zoom while he is locked in the animation on the floor for easy headshots and THE SLAM PROPERTIES STILL PERSISTS. Could've been latency (probably was) but I tested 3 times in casual and I just couldnt believe it. Might be another fun thing to check out? If its not a real thing then I'll try my luck again but those matches just got me upsetti spaghetti.
Yeap same thing happened to me too, i wanted to counter his stab with a slam but was stunned even though he alrdy plunged down when i dashed in
The hitbox on the slam has a delay so it do damage after the animation ended (like a 0.3 to 0.5s delay, it do dmg when the crack on the ground appears). That plus latency are probably causing what you expireance.
I got paired with a laggy barb that would somehow hit me after I dashed away from him. Ngl I feel like there's some people tryna get past the nerfed mace by making their connections shittier
Okay but how is that Barbatos getting those hits on you? I wouldn't be getting those hits! XD
Probably on high ping... tbh so he’s hitting me before I even see him really
@@Dunmuir Wish it would work like that for me :')
Makin a whole video about Unicorm breaking the game, with most of the gameplay being Barbatos being stupid is hilarious
Lol UNICORN IS BROKEN (AND SO IS BARBATOS BUT THATS ANOTHER VIDEO)
bro are you taking a break? You've been uploading non stop. Don't forget to sleep lol
The grind don’t stop 👀
There's definitely something about this game that makes me love it more than I've loved a game in a long time.. the balance will probably be looked at a bit but I get the sense that a lot of the suits have over the top broken stuff like everyone has their crazy stuff.
Glad you’re having fun!
@@Dunmuir it is really good I was more of a quake/unreal tournament player and never liked these types but now I enjoy learning about them because gun evos gameplay and movement really make it awesome
Finn on SWBF2 does similar things and is the most overpowered character in the game so im not surprised just be happy he doesn't also reduce cooldowns like Finn does lmao
This man has gotta be trolling
Barbatos shall henceforth be known as "Creature".
Looool it should
I got him because of the last unicorn anime and because of how good that healing stuff is just staying by your team. When are we gonna get a cool beam Saber suit maybe one from gundam wing
I'd personally like to see the armor move replaced with a self damage buff. Or maybe make it just able to armor itself
One thing I will say they have to fix like right away is barbs right click range because I will dash away be nowhere near it and die it’s insane
Honestly, I wonder if it has more to do with the servers than the actual range of the ability.
@@RespawningJesus I mean that too but even when I don’t dash away it’s still got a heck of a range
Idk about this because I use Barbatos and I miss hits that actually hit the enemy or if they are slightly away from you forward I miss.
To me it seems like a server thing where it looks like you dash in time for sure but server side you were still there.
Yeah I think it’s a combination of long range, ping, server issues. But it’s just nonsense
its probably ping/server issue, it isn't just barb, since i sometimes die while not even near his down skill or get shot through a wall from a gm sniper
Note: I really like using the control settings you posted, but for Unicorn I moved the shield attack to a thumb button, because the scroll wheel kept me only using it during reloads.
So now I successfully spam them into walls :P
As far as balance, remove the overarmor and have the ability trigger the normal regen at 2x and doesn't get cancelled by firing/etc for the AOE period (while you're IN the AOE) + 100 heal. ?
Yeah, I need to do that on unicorn too
The wide range armor boost adjust the kill points for everything. So a clip from Zaku II or Pale Rider may not kill anymore and so you get forced into a poke war and you are behind on a poke war too.
I like the idea of slightly higher healing and lower armor boost or a targeted armor boost like dom but it might effect dom in a weird way. Seems like he'll be rough to balance because of the structure of the game right now.
Over armor always damages the balancability of the game. They just shouldn’t add it, do things like make Dom give a short cc resistance like Zarya
I haven't played one match of rank, it's like no one is online in Europe. Is the a problem with the servers or something?
No idea to be honest :/ But something’s wrong
i do know that a sazabi jumping it will kill it real damn quick
If they change unicorn gundam’s ability from armor to healing should they also consider changing DOM trooper’s ability to healing as well? And maybe bump the number back up and slightly lower the cooldown.
I feel like Dom is good since it's on one person, that you have to at least look towards once and even then it degrades fast as hell and has an animation, Unicorn has zero of those problems save for the degradation
Dom should just give like a cc resistance or temporary invulnerability like Zarya does in ow. Over armor is inherently bad
I have not played the game but i played in the past overwatch and that rememinds me of Briggit at her launch and a little bit latter, the game was so lame for some player i lovved it at the time!!!
I have a hard time seeing Unicorn as unfair. Calling the over armor ability broken is a bit much, it’s only temporary armor and really only saves a person from getting one shotted by a GM Sniper in poking scenarios.
I could definitely see some of these points in high elo matchups and how skilled players could use it in their advantage, but 90% of average players don’t and couldn’t. Personally, I don’t think that devs should modify characters for that 10%, because it may end up affecting everyone else negatively. *and before anything else, they NEED to take care of Barbatos first 😆*
This is all personal opinion of course, but hey I appreciate the videos and guides man, keep it up 👍
It’s the highest healing ability in the game if you understand armor does the same thing as healing but more, and it is usable twice or more during one fight
@@Dunmuir this is true, definitely not arguing with its ability to be utilized and become a key part of a successful team. Honesty the armor ability can change a team fight. But your team must be in range to receive the armor and it has to be timed well for full effect and to make that difference. This is something that takes team coordination and skill for it to achieve the level of effectiveness implied. This may be a key ability (and over powered) for that 10% high ranking players that do coordinate and can use abilities to their full capability, but for the majority this is a balanced and useful skill that they can use to help a few teammates in a fight.
1) His armor give 300hp per person+self-heal, that's at least 1800HP (more like 1200 in most case but still), and it will not get wasted as it is armor, plus he AoE heal at the mean time
2) His gun out DPS most DPS MS at mid to close range, and get 50 shots. Assume you are playing a DPS and 1v1 a Unicorn, if you fail to kill him in one mag, you lose the duel
3) He have a lock on long range stunt that counter shield
4) His ult is a infinite range AoE that's do 550 damage at the center(2 shots most MS in the game btw) and it penetrate enemy with full damge. On top of that you can fire it 5 times.
So yea Unicorn is overpower and broken
Is no one commenting on the fact this man has no crosshair?? I'm about to follow his example I did this in valorant for a month and my aim went through the roof! (Side note I suck at shooters but tactics get me by)
I just use a very small one 😅
@@Dunmuir lol I can't even see it but the no reticle thing I working well its actually easier to use the sniper scope than the actual reticle. Some guns have some secrets I've been finding I wish you had a discord i could bounce some of these ideas and theories off of
ha ha minigun go brrrrr brrrr screw the team I'm going in and dying like the idiot I am
What if his passive just gave armor instead of HP and they change his ability to a smaller heal? Maybe a max of 50-100 armor from it. Make it slow too.
unicorn has a lot of problems. 800 hp is mega squish. up close its pretty bad bc his hit box is the size of a uhaul truck. as a supp hes fine and hes fun. dnt nerf fun or else game is dead on arrival.
Was that enemy Barbatos playing on bad internet making it hard to judge his attack range?
Probably had high ping, meaning he was ahead of where I was seeing him by a decent time. So when I dodge he’s already hitting. And since these games favor the shooter he kills me
Pretty clear they’re just making the game pay to win. The couple overpowered new characters will get a nerf, soon as a new overpowered character is available for purchase…
It would be fun if it Full armor unicorn Gundam with his NTD mode but it kinda stupid that this game he can't control enemy sazabi funnel lol so am kinda disappointed with the developer lol
I feel like the healing would even out somewhat in higher ranked games
Gets even more exploitable in high tier games 🤔
I wouldn’t say broken. Barbatos getting up on him is an immediate death essentially.
Not saying Unicron is necessarily broken either, but Barbatos can literally insta 2-shot the entire roster so that doesn't really prove any point.
Unless I'm the Barbatos, then I'll miss every swing.
@@hoytguy92 that tells me that the game is supposed to be a little over the top in design
1:20 i noticed that to they need to fix that this is why barb feels extremely strong sometimes 7:00
Dunno if it’s lag, but sometimes I get hit from very far away
@@Dunmuir idk maybe a netcode issue ?
I get what you're saying about Unicorn in theory and all, but your gameplay video in the background seems to exemplify that it's not really that much of a feat for a team without a unicorn to nullify his supposedly overpowered overarmor.
Sometimes you win games, sometimes you lose. Individual situations can not be used to prove or disprove the strength of a character
300 to whomever you are near does sound OP in a game with such Low Hp amounts. In SMC there is a shielded mech who does that. She supplies 450 to teammates nearby but the HP amounts in that game are higher like 3000 average. Gleaning from that I would say instead of 300 maybe 100-150 would do for Unicorn. The attacks I. This game are faster and headshots are way easier in this game and proportionately x2.5 more powerful than SMC. Honestly I don’t think 300 sounds like too much when you partner that with it only takes 2 headshots or 1 headshot and a body shot to KO 1300 HP. Butttt to balance it just reducing it should be enough.
Though NetEase has a large unoptimized game file for Super Mecha Champions I would think an SMC style Gundam game would be pretty dope. They don’t balance well at first either but over time they get it.
I honestly don’t care about any other balance changes until the demon is dealt with😭
everyone moves way too fast in this game and does way too much damage. thats my only complaint
i dont think it break the game and i dont see it break the game as u always die and cannot kill a enemy easily like me in the video with the unicorn lol, and the over armor thing, it can be used by both team. it should be only become useful while playing with your private platoon or players which get used of your heal range
All i've gotten from your videos is the game is broke
Game kinda broke, but I’m tryna hell everyone learn to dodge the cracks
before i watch the video the answer is no
What you think now? 👀
This game can definitely use some balancing patch. Sometimes I feel like I'm beta testing the game LOL
I feel like it is, especially when you see the console version comes out later
@@synysterpain do you think it will be different!?
Now imagine if they’d just called this an open beta... people wouldn’t be complaining nearly as much. I personally wouldn’t
@@Dunmuir yeah, as of right now it still feels unpolished. that seems to be the common complaint for most bandai game.
I would be perfectly happy with them changing his over armor to a quick heal aoe.. At least with the heal, you would need to keep track of your team's health or you've essential wasted the skill and put it on cool down using it on a full health team. For over armor.. you can just cast it whenever and it's always going to be good. I've gotten to where in the character select, I see that we don't have a Unicorn gundam.. I start to think.. "I know the other team does.." and usually they do.. and it just turns into a slog of getting outpoked(usually) until one of us gets annoyed enough to switch to Unicorn ourselves.. and I'm so sick of playing that character. Or.. just make his ability maybe increase the amount healed from his passive by a larger amount for a period of time.
Yeeep, too high sustain = constant meta. At least in ranked
What if it's ult was the overshield/armour? And retool the ult to a single shot long cooldown ability? Just a thought, but I do agree it should be removed, so many fights I think I'm doing well then suddenly **pop** extra yellow bar
yeah that would work like lucio's ultimate and honestly it wouldnt be so bad. And they could turn the long range beam rifle into his secondary fire kind of like guntank's with 9/10 seconds of cooldown
(ofc the beam rifle could only shoot one beam per activation)
Would be more balanced, but people probably wouldn’t like Th e change. The ult is a bunch of fun as an ult
i do not see why unicorn should be op. the heals per sec are what 30? not enough for the fast pace of the game to keep people from dying. the armor instnatly decays once applied and that very fast so it can hold long enough to be relevant for long and its 15+ seconds cd so its not that often up and even if characters als like barb or exia rek you through that armor anyways yay gm sniper is only good in the hands of a god aimer ~ it really doesnt matter that much. its all my opinion on the matter but unicorn is okay to have i prefer a gm and methuss over him just because the armor is there for max 2 -3 seconds. not enough time to trade efficently.
You use the armor for pushes not for sitting back, when your whole team has extra health and are pushing it does help. Just popping it in any stand off does very little tho.
But overshield allows more gameplay potential in solo que , non premate environment tho . I think it become only heal is maybe too weak for both setup and I think if this game focus too much for coop , premate , meta pro style it will become pale hero shooter like overwatch
Id say al the paid for gundams are alittle broken expect the marasai and mahiroo
Marasai is broken, she literally pulls you away from your team if you're not a shield person. But that's the weakness shields but for everyone else they get pulled and mostly instant killed.
you can easily dodge it on reaction and if they do land it they leave themselves exposed in the grab animation, and just like roadhog don't push them when it's off cooldown.
@@floginfoo are u forgetting the stun afterwards?
I think unicorn is not hard to deal with.
Yesterday I got a 68 kills with around 40k damage game so yeah it’s definitely not broken
the fact that he has a hud that tells him what is around him makes it even more broken. You shouldn't be able to know what's around you when you have a powerful ability like his. but yeah, his ability is way too powerful anyways.
Did Mercy has a hud to know the number of allies in her range back when she could mass revive people? I faintly remember that she did.
Having a hud isn't as bad as the mass overarmour breaks the damage breakpoint. If a character has an ability that affects teammates within a range, it's good to have something to know how many you'll help.
Unicorns passive alone is broken..
The rate of healing is not the issue, the fact it's constantly applied to itself, in addition to friendly players near it passively is the problem..
Look at other suits with the ability to heal others. Gm is fastest heal, but has a pretty long cooldown.. riders can be destroyed.. and methuss has a lot limitations when it comes to healing, in exchange to be able to revive with it.
Unicorn while it has its draw backs, it's healing others just for existing.. and while it's not a lot of healing, over the course of a match it adds up..
I've heard claims of people getting as much as 25k healing in some matches that end up dragging on, with unicorn
Unicorn really just incentivises teams to stay clustered together, and we lack any real tools to punish that currently, we have a few but no sustainable punishment option, except maybe Mahiro but it needs work to be effective at punishing players clustering together
So yes unicorn is broken, but it's as much caused by the Lack of viable options to punish the clustering playstyle unicorn incentives as the design of the suit itself
I don't think you can blame much on how it encourages grouping.
All 3 objective types of this game encourages grouping.
Having an effective team-wiping ult would not only counter Unicorn, but also ruin the enemy's team effort too easily. You'll see that most ults are not made to easily wipe a team at once like Overwatch, but to give an edge in weakening the enemy's team.
love this game even with some balance issues...It's just fun
Im 54 years old and from the original gaming generation
my generation looks for the fun factor and more of the casual aspects -
Not so much graphics and balance ...
accept games for what they are .
I mean, Back in the day you bought a game there were zero updates- lol
you got what you paid for
Be thankful devs can actually make balance passes
I’m glad you’re enjoying it! Though you also have to keep in mind that devs will intentionally misbalance things because they can change them later. Like making the new character broken so people buy it and then nerf it down