How To Rebuild a Toyota W58 5 Speed Transmission - Part 1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 มิ.ย. 2019
- Toyota W58 5 speed complete disassembly . Some tricks on how to remove the difficult upper 5th gear without breaking it.
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Thanks for watching this video. There seems to be some confusion as to why I name bolts by their Hex size. I do this because it's an instuctional video and you may need to know what size wrench or socket to use for removal. Hope you enjoy my work around getting this unit apart.
I really like the way you do that - after all, when the bolt is in the hole the only thing your interested in is what sized socket you use to get the bastard out!
Exactly
"I don't know what they were thinking."
I find myself saying the same thing on just about every repair I do. Thanks!
Amazing video, very concise, very clear, informative and decently paced. I felt like I could follow along fairly easily and actually learn something
Thanks
I have rebuilt hundreds of standard transmissions and this was my first w58 and l have to say your video, procedure, and explanation is top notch. The transmission is so smooth and quiet the man thought l gave him a new one. Thank you for your wonderful video.
Appreciate the feedback
It’s always a pleasure watching the master, mastering his craft. Awesome step by step for mechanically incline individual. Thanks Paul for all you do.
I like that using the tape to prevent the snap ring flying away.
Ah, that's perfect. I have a w58 spare for my ma61.. I will open it and clean it because it has been stored for years and it's in rough condition.. thanks !
Excellent tutorial. Just about every other video out there is based on this one. No need to go elsewhere because you won't learn anymore than this one will teach. Not knocking the other ones but this is the one to watch.
Thank you
hey Regular...
you dissecting a very unique part of the automotive industry. Nobody is doing it, the way you doing it (with brains).
u legend!
Thank you
Fabulous video! I used it to rebuild the gearbox from my Lotus Excel, I could never have managed without this video. Thank you!
You're welcome!
A great & very helpfull video .
I built my self a hydraulic press & supported the 5th gear & bearing & reverse gear on a section of bulldozer blade cutting edge on 100 x100 box section 100 mm long .
With the press compressing the shaft i used a LPG torch to slightly heat the inner surface of the 5th gear & bearing & tapped the shaft with a brass hammer & bang, off it popped.
Thanks for your help
"But I'm going to show you a cool trick that you can try in your shop....." - Me: 🤔 slowly puts down 4lb hammer and cold chisel..
Just bought two, one with a blown 2nd gear and cluster and another with a blown output. Cant wait to tackle this project. Thanks for the informative video!!!!!
This is one of the Best Videos ever made.....Complete control and total comprehension. This demands some kind of award! Great!
I am currently prepping to crack the housing for my w58 open to flush the vintage sludge and old grease out from the gearset, and found this video perfect! will likely be rewatching this two or three more times mid process haha
I'm liking this video and saving it to a playlist before I'm even two minutes in; pretty much anything from Paul is gonna be good.
a clear and simple/straightforward explanation,its the best ive seen sofar
I wish I would have had this video when I rebuilt my w55 a few years ago. It was the first transmission I had ever rebuilt and this video would have saved me a lot of time and hassle. Thank you for putting this together
Glad I could help!
Love your videos! Thanks for posting this one! Looking forward to the conclusion. You have definitely inspired me to tear down my own W55 trans!
Great Video! Boy, does this bring back memories! The only other tips I can share is that 1) I used a die-grinder to quickly mark things before disassembly, like one-notch for rail one, two-notches for rail two, one-notch on fork for first gear & orientation, 3-notches on fork for 3rd, and same for the sliders, etc. 2) I would take cardboard from the transmission building kits and fold them like an accordion so I could quickly put the detent balls, interlocks, clips, bolts, etc., in order. I then can later clean them and place them back in order on a new folded cardboard to prepare for the reassembly.
This is litterally the video im glad you uploaded. i own a 1984 supra/celica. hopefully ill never have transmission issues
Awesome video! Good lighting, camera angles, explanations, no story-telling...perfect. Thanks for making it!
I have a buddy w an early 90's Toyota P/U that slipping out of gears, he wants me to fix it. Not sure if its the same trans, but I'll be using this video as a guide.
Glad you liked it
Thanks for making the effort to show us this one Paul. Sometimes we have to think outside the box.
The assembly will be grand!
Thanks for posting this . I’m rebuilding a hilux gearbox very similar.Your video was very helpful . Greatly appreciated
Good luck!
Great tear down vid. I have a w58 I’m about to tear down and convert to a triumph tr3 engine. Was told it was rebuilt recently so will prolly just split the cases and inspect initially. Looks like a pretty advanced tear down that I hope to avoid. Will rely heavily on part 2 if I do. Cheers.
Awesome, i didn't think you worked on these smaller trans'. I rebuild T50's for the ae86 toyota corolla in my area and for my team. Love learning more about rebuilds. Keep it up!
I learn so much every time I watch your videos, thank you Paul!
Information goldmine! A True service to all gearheads, Thank you sir
Glad to help
Super 5 baby !
Had a ‘82 Toyota Supra with a 383ci. SBC.
If you didn’t do anything stupid it would last a long time . Very strong design.
Great videos . Very informative and appreciated !
Its a very well designed and precise gearbox
You make it look easy.
awesome video this was a nice guide to rebuilding my transmission at home.
By far the best videos on transmission you're gonna find on TH-cam...
This was great. Thank you so much for making this video series.
Your videos are always great. Thanks so much for sharing your expertise.
Kind regards from sunny SoCal
Really well filmed and edited. Nice work.
Your videos are fabulous. I'll feel comfortable doing this job myself after watching the video.
Please let us know had it worked out
Don't have any auto mechanic skills myself, but this is very satisfying to watch 👍
Very good tip about tape on the snap rings. Thank you for sharing.
Very informative video!
Thank you for sharing your valuable knowledge!
THANK YOU SO MUCH,,,I STILL RUN A 1987 4RUNNER AS SEEN IN MY PROFILE PICTURE,,YES,THAT IS BONNEVILLE SALT FLATS WHERE I WAS A TRACK STEWART FOR LAND SPEED EVENTS..I LIKE THIS TO BE MY LAST BUGGY,AND HAD NO CLUE WHAT I WOULD DO IF I HAD TRANSMISSION TROUBLE..YOUR VIDEO WAS A BIG HELP...STAY WELL
Thank you
That is a somewhat complicated teardown, made even more difficult by video documenting it, Awesome effort, great content, and it is very much appreciated!
You are the best! I like this job!
AMAZING TEARDOWN 👍👏👏👏👏👏
It's nice to see a different gearbox, because I be mostly do the Fiat gearboxes, thanks for video!!!!!!
That was epic! many thanks for this, i have 3x W52's to rebuild (same box different ratios, used in the toyota hilux here in Australia). I suspect this video will get a lot of views as it draws in the toyota guys.
Awesome video, didn't get mine apart this far but nice to know if I ever have to replace anything I know the few tricks this thing has 👍👍👍
Excellent video, as always.
Very good demonstration sir. Very useful to train my Trainees. Thank you.
Straight to it with good quality and detail!
Thank you
Man.. That tape on those clip rings to keep them from getting lost is pretty damn clever...
I would usually have a gallon milk jug cut in half to try and catch it... It would usually work, but it's a pain to get set into place sometimes....... nice tip. I'm gonna remember that one. Great video, quality is top notch... I rebuilt (replaced syncros) my transmission in my 2002 7.3L Ford diesel.. was ZF650 6speed manual... I just dove in without knowing anything about it.. I found a PDF service manual on a ZF650 online but it was out of a GM diesel, not Ford... but it was close enough to get me through the build... It was basically the exact same except maybe the input and tail shafts (or something, don't quote me.. I dont' remember what all was different, if anything).. It called for a $500 long armed puller (like 24", 2 arms).. which I was not gonna buy.. so we whipped up some scrap metal and a 3/4" all thread rod and built one.... I figured it was gonna be all we needed ... but no, of coarse we needed a press.... So I found a new 32ton bottle jack and we built a basic press with some large I-beams and angle iron.... I didn't have those plate clamps like you do at the press..... All we had was 1/2" plates..... and there was a point where we had to pull 3 giant gears all at once, and it took everything that 32 ton jack could press... I had to get a cheater bar to even pump the jack. The press was creeking and popping and then it finally popped off all at once. super sketchy- but I didn't break anything; it's been working for years since then (the reassembled trans-- and the press for that matter). Probably not the best trans to cut your teeth on.. It's the first transmission I've ever pulled apart. It felt pretty risky but it paid off... Love the vids man.. Keep pumping them out..>> the payback will still be coming long after you retire... Have a body of work like yours in a large library of videos like this just keeps growing over time. big fan.
Helpful video. Thanks. I used it to do a tail shaft swap from a W55 to a w59. 🤘🏽
Glad it helped
I really enjoyed this video. Very informative. And I subscribe
Very good video, you explain very well and you think outside the box and no BS. It's nice to see a real mechanic on TH-cam. Question where do you like to buy your parts from for transmissions.
I sell parts. Look at the links in the videos!
Thanks for this vid Paul ,great help as I am about to rebuild my W56.Wish you had a book on these as you do on Muncie's, book is invaluable to me !!!!
Very well very good explanations.
Thanks
Fantastic video! Just about to rebuild mine next week with syncros bearings and fresh fluid. Honestly tho excellent job on the break down and explanations
I am not the mechanical type but, I enjoy watching you work on these transmissions and am learning a lot... Not that I would ever try to take one apart:) Well, maybe but only one that I knew was not going to go back together...:)☮🙃
Thanks for inviting me for lunch, Paul. I hope I didn't get in your way. The tear down and explanations were spot on. Your 5th gear removal idea was perfect. Thanks again for the tutorial.
Nice job, i rebuild/refresh W series for a hobby, got 4 on the bench at the moment. 5th gear gear is definately challenging, i made myself a custom plate that grasps behind 5th and invested in a 20t hydraulic 2/3leg puller..makes it a breeze, cant stand when people cut 5th off.
With that spring retainer behind the 5th/R hub, just use a puller and grasp outside of hub with a bit of pressure and tap with a soft face, should pop loose and you dont damage the discontinued retainer.
On later models they do away with circular key springs and use coil type with 3 piece rings
Thanks for the tips. Great when people share info!
Great info! You should make your own vid. Everyone has different insights!
Really enjoyed the vid! Toyota only uses 12mm :)
Loved the paper towel and tape tip!
Excellent instructional!
Awesome video, very informative.
nice. been waiting for you to do one of these
Thanks for making this. I hope you one day get a s2000 transmission or something with a secondary reduction like it. I would love to see how they work.
Awesome video thanks but when part 2 is coming out ?
since saw you with Eric the Car Guy, I am huge fan of your quality.
Thank you
im tearing down my w56 which is almost identical to the w58/59's... this is the most informative "how-to" instructional vid ive found. thanks for sharing your knowledge brotha ya made this project go from a daunting task to actually a enjoyable experience. not quite F-bomb free tho lol!
Thanks for watching!
@@GearBoxVideo i have a question and im guessing with your expertise u might be able to answer.
i have a 1994 w56 mtm. strange thing tho, the shift hub keys do not come out of the hub. looks like they were manufactured to stay in.. all vids and even my fsm show them simply coming right off of the hubs. you wouldndt happen to know if this was an upgrade to the late model w56's or am i missing something here... im a noob at this, but im really enjoying learning and doing it myself. but i know with toyota mtm's of this era are not exactly "all the same, so im a little stumped.
Some keys had wings in them and will not come out of the hub
Great tear down. Thank you!
Hi Paul, I remember seeing you on EricTheCarGuy’s channel and saw the whole series with the mustang T5 rebuild, I was instantly hooked on your presentation and information and subscribed to your channel that same time period. I really enjoy watching your videos and learning! btw just saw your latest hurst shifter video but started watching this one right after and felt like commenting here lol. Thank you for your hard work and bringing us along too! Cheers from NY 👍🏼
Thanks a bunch for subscribing and watching the vids.
Would love to see any transaxle disassembly being done here, thanks. As usual, another great video, Paul, keep coming. :)
Thanks a lot for the idear being posted I HV now understood what to be done ❤❤❤❤
I watch this stuff for hours I like gear boxes....
I'm the guy who works on old air cooled VW engines and transmissions. It's doubtful that I will ever work on a toyota 5 speed but I try to watch all your videos because I always learn something new that I can apply to my work. Your editing and thought process is outstanding. I like the way you explain things. I like that you have to struggle and fumble with things. It just makes it real. Thanks for sharing what you do.
vw bus , transmission is more complicated , this transmission is more simplified then the T2/T3 gearboxes
Awesome video as always. 💖👍👏
Thank you
Very well done informative video ,Thank You Sir
In the middle of an AX 15 teardown with my 17 yo daughter. Her 93 Jeep YJ has been treated poorly and it needs some love.Any chance you are planning a video on this gearbox anytime soon? hoping to getworking on my CJ T5 with a blown 3rd gear soon after. Always find your videos interesting and insights valuable! Great work Paul.
Hello i have the Tacoma 2.7 2003 4x4 I think I had the same W59 i am attaching a link to my TH-cam video of a humming whining noise in neutral and goes away when I press in the clutch all the way .. comes back when I’m of the clutch and it whines through gears 1-3 and no noise in gear 4-5 anyway you can help me on this it’s the throw out bearing already changed that.. could it be the input shaft bearing or should I just do a bearing kit?
Paul....Awesome video sir!...very well done. Good short cut on getting the 5th gear off, never thought about removing the cluster or counter shaft without pulling 5th gear and reverse gear first, excellent idea sir. When do you think you can post a reassembly video of the gearbox?... Very well done Paul, much appreciated sir. ( waiting on Part 2 !! )...Thx, Jim
Coming soon. About 1 week
Exelent love the videos. I know these boxes are pritty strong even behind a small block chevy. the only gear that dont last is 5th. is there a way to beef it up?
Great Video Paul. Tons of Info. Btw my hammer is a little soft too!!
SUPER HELPFUL, Thanks.
Awesome vid as usual, always a great reminder why it costs so much to get a gearbox rebuild -_-
makes you appreciate the simplicity of the t5
I like you videos, if I may I will share my many years of experience at a Toyota dealership repairing gearboxes.
The Sandwich plate is best held in the vise and the reverse and 5th gears pulled off first with “C’ clamp puller and long attachment legs.
Then remove the torque bolts and snap rings.
Next remove the pins attaching the 3-4 &1-2 shift forks to the shift rods.
Slide both shafts at once (together) out of the sandwich (centre) plate and move the shift forks along their shafts and off the ends of the shaft, leaving the sandwich plate with the shift rods and the spring balls together for later dismantling.
First see my part 2 video. Second the c clamp thing is hit or miss. If you were at a Toyota dealer you would have had a special tool which is not a puller. I used the tool in the late 80's when we did Toyota dealer work. Tool SST 09312-20011. When we did any dealer work we always had the correct tools. Look in a shop manual and you will see what it does. C clamps break more 5th gears and the primary reason so many new 5 sets are sold. Your method seems interesting but since the back end of the rails have to be removed anyway.. what's the point? You are not saving any time. Why risk damaging the rails yanking a gear train out next to them? The factory overhaul manual doesn't show doing it this way. So I guess its some short cut that honestly I see zero gain.
Great job Master 👏
Thanks!
Found this video really interesting. Love these videos.
Have you done a r150 or r154?
You are awesome sir I have learned a lot. Very clear and great video
So nice of you
@@GearBoxVideo sir on my toyota hilux when I down gear it's very harsh what could be the problem?
Blew mine with ~400hp, low rpm pull with 4th gear. Massive rattle noise but no noise with clutch pressed in and neutral works. xD
Very educational, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Very interesting stuff. I'm waiting for part 2 though as I have a W58 that I'm wanting to put back together.
I bought what I assumed was a MK4 Supra (iron centre support) W58 that the previous owner had the direct shift casing installed to suit their build (turns out, it's only the alloy centre support, weaker version). I'm currently trying to fit a remote shift mount to it but the bearing seems too be too big for the hole in the casing, so the casing isn't mounting up. I just wanted to know if I'm doing something wrong or the bearings are just different sizes in the iron centre support W58s
hey boss, might need your help with a r154. keep up the great videos!!
I luv ur videos men this is art thanks for share
hey man i went ahead and bought an r154 with a bad input bearing and was wondering if there was an easy way to replace only an input shaft bearing? LMK!!! thanks.
amazing video, thank you so much!!!
Glad you liked it!
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Not on whatsApp. Best to look at my contact info on the channels ABOUT section
If I crated up a Mazda m5od out of a 2002 f150 , would you rebuild it for me when it takes a dump? I've got almost 400k on the truck , orig tranny with no issues to speak of. I changed the fluid every 50k since new.
Thanks but my schedule is pretty booked
Great video
I need some advice I have an rb25det big box and number 4th gear only goes in when I'm on high rpm but I can't mash the clutch peddle straight down to the floor I have to mash it like 1 inch and a half before it touches the floor for the gear to go in while I'm racing. The gear usually goes in about 6000 rpm and above . Do you think it's the gear selector that is maybe broken or moved out of position inside the box. Because It doesn't grate as if it's a synchro is bad but if I try to put in the gear at low rpm it bounces something and the leaver pushes forward and it feels like something it hitting the leaver from inside
Thank You , Learning New Stuff , & Thank You !
Amazing video bro.
Thanks a lot for this great vid!!!
Thank you for watching