@Sagryl_the_Questless_Knight Why should I answer an elite class enemy? At least be an overlord class enemy before asking me any questions! Just kidding ;D As a retired general locked in Kuro's basement, I have nothing else to do.
I loooove that spectro rover is doing more damage.. its stacking crit rate going so well with a crit damage weapon and the new frazzle echo set. It just works. I love seeing the skill hitting for 20k
very much looking forward to how they will implement debuffing and dot-ing characters. Monsters could always debuff us, now, it's our turn >:D Phoebe will probably play into it, or an unknown yet to be released spectro 4* perhaps. So many possibilities. maybe an energy regen scaling character? new elements... so promising :D
as far as debuff goes, yes. Only spec rover can do it. But to note, this debuff system is not new. Mobs have been debuffing us since day 1. We just never really noticed it. I would simply assume that, the 2.0 characters will revolve around inflicting these debuffs. But, speaking of jinhsi, Empyrean Anthem is the set to farm for her sub-dps.
@@keikeikeis I noticed it. Havoc Dreadmane & those Traffic light echoes applies debuffs to us, and The LampyLumen & Clank Bang is able to freeze us. I don't have indepth knowledge about these debuffs though, I have only noticed.
@@Ostrid1 they serve different purposes. Havoc rover is more main dps. Spec rover is more a support / sub DPS. I can't say for certain right now but havoc is probably still the better choice. I will wait for Phoebe to be release before conclusion. :) if you're daring enough though, jinhsi + yuanwu (S4) + spec rover is an interestingly decent team.
If you want to see what the new Spectro Rover can do, go check out a video made by JulleusToo, the damage is enough to manage ToA’s hardesy challenges and still have time left over
@@keikeikeis I just checked out the Nightmare: Mourning Aix new echo, and it's new set Eternal Radiance. It's passive is to increase damage taken by enemies with SF by 100%, on top of a passive 12% Spectro bonus. This is not a small buff. This is terrifyingly powerful.
I'm trying to see if Spectro Rover can do as good of a job as Havoc Rover. Can you test them alone, without other resonators buffing them? If possible with the ideal main dps echoes for both elements. I'm trying to do this on my account but echo exp go brr...
As good of a job.... based on the skill multipliers, you're looking at best 75% or less of what havoc rover can do dps. it's just how their kits are build.. I could test sure :)
thanks alot i was confused regarding the new eco sets and this helped alot! Since havoc rover needed to have a whole rework to work with this i assume jinshi can't use the new spectro set? since she probably can't use spectro frazzle thingy
@@dark37-47 yup! Jinhsi still uses the old set. But, fret not! Kuro is not apposed to upgrading old echos. They introduced nightmare echos. Changli and jiyan got a mini buff because of it too :) maybe jinhsi one day too.
In fact, Spectro Rover want that new spectro frazzle set. Increase in 20% crit and Spectro damage just by hitting enemies with the frazzle debuff is huge.
this is very informative! thank you! I'd like to ask: since the stack limit is 10, and this debuff only deals damage when a stack is consumed, what benefit is there when you add stacks? I assume it will refresh the duration/stacks but if so, it will not deal any damage anymore, right?
@@edgewalker00 correction, it deals dmg on a 3 second tick. When shimmer is cast, it will still prock dmg every 3 seconds without consuming stacks :) You can checkout my next video, but TLDR the buff dmg doesn't particularly matter. Only the fact there is a stack. Adding stacks is just a mechanic. For example, future characters might do X amount of damage when 10 stacks. Currently, 10 stacks is the requirement for the new spectro set.
@@keikeikeis oh thanks for this! I thought it will only deal damage on stack consumption but glad to be proven otherwise. thanks for your effort with these videos :3
you would think but unless you want to run her as main dps, moonlit cloud still best to buff main dps. the crit rate bonus and spec bonus won't do much for you
The new Nightmare Echo for Mourning Aix passively increases the wearer's damage against Spectro-Frazzled enemies by 100%, on top of providing a permanent 12% Spectro bonus. The Eternal Radiance set increases Spectrover's Crit Rate by 20%, as well as an additional 15% Spectro Dmg bonus at max stacks. This totals out to: 20% Crit Rate 27% Dmg Bonus 100% Extra Damage This is not a small buff, I repeat. This debuff is not for DOT. It's is an enabler.
The debuff DOT deal the stack damage every 3 seconds. Now the important question: How much % of the character ATK does each stack of SpectroFrazzle does? Or is the damage based on enemy HP? If it purely scales on % of ATK, I think future character that deal DOT debuff may benefit to stack ATK instead of Attribute dmg on their 3 cost echo.
I'm going to save u a whole ass video to watch. Conclusion to testing : It's not affected by anything except spectro RES. no skill dmg, forte increase atk% spec % etc increases it's damage per tick. But resistance affects it's damage. You are welcome to watch the testing, i'll upload it in afew hours :)
@@dreamboi4268 with nightmare echos being a thing and new echos that can possibly work with old echo sets, it may happen one day :) kuro has shown they are not apposed to buffing via echo systems.
I just did the part where Spectro Rover gets this buff. Thanks for explanation.
Why do I see you everywhere?
@Sagryl_the_Questless_Knight Why should I answer an elite class enemy? At least be an overlord class enemy before asking me any questions!
Just kidding ;D
As a retired general locked in Kuro's basement, I have nothing else to do.
@GeshuLin_WW I was planning to get an upgrade anyway, I just used an enemy from the Web Event as a temporary fix
Awesome video! Absolutely love how clearly you explained whole mechanics of this new effect . Thank you
I loooove that spectro rover is doing more damage.. its stacking crit rate going so well with a crit damage weapon and the new frazzle echo set. It just works. I love seeing the skill hitting for 20k
it looks like this will be used to apply off field dps when your doing other rotations on your characters, well done kuro.
very much looking forward to how they will implement debuffing and dot-ing characters. Monsters could always debuff us, now, it's our turn >:D Phoebe will probably play into it, or an unknown yet to be released spectro 4* perhaps. So many possibilities. maybe an energy regen scaling character? new elements... so promising :D
Phoebe might be the user, they also rel3ase roccia echo
The game also mentions other effects like this, so I’m assuming we’ll get more future characters that can apply these debuffs.
is it ONLY spectro rover that can use spectro frazzle, then? so is grinding the new set for resonators like jinhsi useless?
Yes, but Phoebe has some leaks that she will use spectro frazzle too
as far as debuff goes, yes. Only spec rover can do it. But to note, this debuff system is not new. Mobs have been debuffing us since day 1. We just never really noticed it.
I would simply assume that, the 2.0 characters will revolve around inflicting these debuffs.
But, speaking of jinhsi, Empyrean Anthem is the set to farm for her sub-dps.
i'm mostly planning on grinding the new energy/havoc set for taoqi so i can use her with camellya and havoc rover unfortunately, rip spectro rover lol
i thought this was elemental reaction lmaoo
@@keikeikeis I noticed it. Havoc Dreadmane & those Traffic light echoes applies debuffs to us, and The LampyLumen & Clank Bang is able to freeze us. I don't have indepth knowledge about these debuffs though, I have only noticed.
Will this close the gap between havoc and spectro rover or is this just a better subdps support spectro rover compared to the old spectro rover.
@@Ostrid1 they serve different purposes. Havoc rover is more main dps. Spec rover is more a support / sub DPS. I can't say for certain right now but havoc is probably still the better choice. I will wait for Phoebe to be release before conclusion. :) if you're daring enough though, jinhsi + yuanwu (S4) + spec rover is an interestingly decent team.
If you want to see what the new Spectro Rover can do, go check out a video made by JulleusToo, the damage is enough to manage ToA’s hardesy challenges and still have time left over
@@keikeikeis I just checked out the Nightmare: Mourning Aix new echo, and it's new set Eternal Radiance.
It's passive is to increase damage taken by enemies with SF by 100%, on top of a passive 12% Spectro bonus.
This is not a small buff. This is terrifyingly powerful.
I'm trying to see if Spectro Rover can do as good of a job as Havoc Rover. Can you test them alone, without other resonators buffing them? If possible with the ideal main dps echoes for both elements. I'm trying to do this on my account but echo exp go brr...
As good of a job.... based on the skill multipliers, you're looking at best 75% or less of what havoc rover can do dps. it's just how their kits are build.. I could test sure :)
so i can use this spectro rover as phoebe subdps ??
@@ardisugianto I don't see why not XD
thanks alot i was confused regarding the new eco sets and this helped alot! Since havoc rover needed to have a whole rework to work with this i assume jinshi can't use the new spectro set? since she probably can't use spectro frazzle thingy
@@dark37-47 yup! Jinhsi still uses the old set. But, fret not! Kuro is not apposed to upgrading old echos. They introduced nightmare echos. Changli and jiyan got a mini buff because of it too :) maybe jinhsi one day too.
What about the new echos? Does it work for spectro rover
In fact, Spectro Rover want that new spectro frazzle set.
Increase in 20% crit and Spectro damage just by hitting enemies with the frazzle debuff is huge.
this is very informative! thank you!
I'd like to ask: since the stack limit is 10, and this debuff only deals damage when a stack is consumed, what benefit is there when you add stacks? I assume it will refresh the duration/stacks but if so, it will not deal any damage anymore, right?
@@edgewalker00 correction, it deals dmg on a 3 second tick. When shimmer is cast, it will still prock dmg every 3 seconds without consuming stacks :)
You can checkout my next video, but TLDR the buff dmg doesn't particularly matter. Only the fact there is a stack.
Adding stacks is just a mechanic. For example, future characters might do X amount of damage when 10 stacks.
Currently, 10 stacks is the requirement for the new spectro set.
@@keikeikeis oh thanks for this! I thought it will only deal damage on stack consumption but glad to be proven otherwise.
thanks for your effort with these videos :3
What gear is best for Spectro Rover? The new one?
you would think but unless you want to run her as main dps, moonlit cloud still best to buff main dps. the crit rate bonus and spec bonus won't do much for you
Ohhh nice thank you
How do i activated the buff? i have the quest item in my backpack but idk how to use it.
nothing to use my guy, once u have it, the skill updates itself. can read it in the skill window :)
@@keikeikeis oh, haha ty sorry for dumb question xd
The new Nightmare Echo for Mourning Aix passively increases the wearer's damage against Spectro-Frazzled enemies by 100%, on top of providing a permanent 12% Spectro bonus.
The Eternal Radiance set increases Spectrover's Crit Rate by 20%, as well as an additional 15% Spectro Dmg bonus at max stacks.
This totals out to:
20% Crit Rate
27% Dmg Bonus
100% Extra Damage
This is not a small buff, I repeat. This debuff is not for DOT. It's is an enabler.
Actually, taking this back. I'm not sure if the 100% is just the nightmare echo attack, or just in general
I guess crit doesnt affect dots? ty for the video!
new video up u may find informative. yes, crit doesn't affect frazzle, neither does attack or any stat other than resistance :3
the dot doesn't crit right?
does not :) i was running 50%+ crit rate in this demo. granted none of my skills are leveled lol.
@@keikeikeis Does it get affected by character's attack and dmg% ?
The debuff DOT deal the stack damage every 3 seconds.
Now the important question:
How much % of the character ATK does each stack of SpectroFrazzle does?
Or is the damage based on enemy HP?
If it purely scales on % of ATK, I think future character that deal DOT debuff may benefit to stack ATK instead of Attribute dmg on their 3 cost echo.
I will have to do more testing to conclude this. Need a couple of days :)
I'm going to save u a whole ass video to watch.
Conclusion to testing : It's not affected by anything except spectro RES. no skill dmg, forte increase atk% spec % etc increases it's damage per tick. But resistance affects it's damage. You are welcome to watch the testing, i'll upload it in afew hours :)
@@keikeikeis Very much appreciated for this 😘
Thx and I'll subscribe ;D
im currently Havoc rover been that spec since we first got that ability, it should have got a buff too..
we got the 4th node dw
Ppl abandoned spectro when havoc came out & their dps is comparable to limited 5 stars lol
It didn’t need a buff you goose
@ Still needs a buff, lol
wish Jinhsi received the buff
@@dreamboi4268 with nightmare echos being a thing and new echos that can possibly work with old echo sets, it may happen one day :) kuro has shown they are not apposed to buffing via echo systems.
thanks