@@hil9319 this is a noob developer started an engine using free assets. He didn't even know that using scripts and modeling we can make better environment.
The first RAGE is still impressive. Unreal didn't improve old physics, but it has stuff like parallaxing and real lighting. The only piece of dedication in DE is bringing the games to UE. Modders would've done it for SA but you know how it ended.
@@danim8414 engines are so situational - it depends on what the developers can do with it. You have the powerful Unreal Engine producing absolute garbage like the DE, but you have the Renderware Engine producing amazing stuff like the old GTA games. RAGE produced GTA V, Red Dead Redemption 2, and GTA IV. It utilizes Euphoria Physics which is downright the best physics engine. So my point is, you need experience to do amazing work with no matter what engine. RAGE in this case is better than what the Grove Street Games studio did with UE4 for the definitive edition.
Things I expected to see, Car reflection Models Weather/Time Lighting Vegetation What he compares Water Grenade marks Non interactive Buildings Well Done
Well yee its not his best video but still worth watching for me, but i wouldn't need Part 2 for this anyways cuz i know GTA 4's RAGE very good, and this Video just Compares both engines on the same map
@@avfx111 yeah and RAGE is a third party proprietary engine unlike Unreal so it would have a lot of issues and locked features that Unreal wouldn’t have problems with. Also it has way better optimization than RAGE
@@avfx111 rage or not if they paid a good team to do it and didn't rush it then they could've gotten a good remaster heck they could've even gotten a good remake of the trilogy
The idea of putting the interior in the DE was nice. The problem though is the fact that most of the interiors are a copy and paste of the other. At this point it is better to leave a 2d texture, but random, than always and only the usual image repeated X times
I'll go for definitive edition if they improve a little more, Cuz Rage development has ended and there are only 2 missions, The developers said to add more missions in future, But it actually never released. Definately rage if it had all the missions and mods available.
@@RetroDestroyer Rage is quite good, But Im a bit dissappointed that it remained in beta and never released completely despite developers said they will release it with all missions.
@@somerandomguy1518 Oh that's definitely understandable I just feel that this defective edition doesn't require any attention whatsoever from consumers
I like the way these game developers rethink about them and meet what we actually need in the game. Another issue is plz provide the download links if available. They will be of great use
"Rage engine" is incredible. Because your priority is physics. Of course, this depends on the programmer too, but when we talk about saving time this is quite relevant to prototype.
GTA VC RAGE from the video above is GTA IV which uses the mod map of GTA VC, the effects of explosions are very clear, helicopters over water, grenade explosions in the water, grenade explosions on land, bullets from weapons hitting water, car explosions. many people think that GTA VC uses MOD, even though GTA IV uses GTA VC's MOD MAP.
Yeah, but it isnt fair to compare them, first of all Vice City Definitive Edition is pretty much the same old RenderWare version with only some stuff from Unreal Engine, Lighting (Limited=Not utilized full potential), Shadows, Reflections (Limited=Not utilized full potential), Parallax Interiors(Limited=Not utilized full potential).. physics are the same, textures are the same, its pretty much RenderWare engine running in Unreal Engine. On the other hand "RAGE Version" is a mod for "newer" GTA game that is years ahead of the RenderWare era that VC Definitive Edition is based and running on.
@@ThisBirdHasFlown They are actually the same, only AI upscaled (Which was done poorly BTW), I`m a modder BTW being modding the trilogy as soon as it came out (If you are interested you can check my mods out on Nexus Mods), believe me textures are identical only upscaled, and high majority of them lost the details in process (like some names on clothes).
Não sei por que as pessoas desmerecem tanto a Unreal 4. Essa engine entrega cada gráfico incrível. A diferença pro Rage é que desse último, só sai jogo AAA, de uso exclusivo de uma empresa gigante. Já a Unreal pode ser usada por qualquer um. É como um jato militar pilotado por uma criança.
O fato é que GTA Trilogy DE foi feito às pressas pela GS Games (uma desenvolvedora de 20 funcionários) sob encomenda da Rockstar, inicialmente pra ser um tapa-buraco enquanto GTA V next gen não chegasse. Já é um milagre eles conseguirem ter portado os jogos para UE4, ainda que com vários bugs. A Rockstar perdeu o respeito pelos jogos que a fez ser o que é hoje.
A versão rage foi feita por um modder. Ele não tinha direções da UE4. A versão unreal foi feita por 22 pessoas e a Unreal Engine é super facil de trabalhar com.
From what I know, the classic GTA trilogy didn't used the RAGE engine. Rockstar used the Criterion's engine named "RenderWare" for the 3D Era and when Criterion was bought by EA, they needed a new engine so they came up with the RAGE. I may be wrong tho!
In gta vice city gta3 and sanandreas its just not about graphics its about old physics of gameplay which makes the game insane and rememberable. If a remastered version of vice was created with gta V physics the game will be a Crap. Old physics is the real fun of this games
The excuse that they wanted to keep the original trilogy its classic look was a major flaw, no one but them limited themselves, the game could've been much better if they made a remake like Mafia did, instead this poor remaster (for the 2nd time!). Unreal Engine with RenderWare physics looks bad, and in my opinion, the games don't even reach the current standard on graphics and gameplay that this gaming generation requires, for me they still look like old games from the early 2000's only with a little make up, although they demand too much for a decent performance(bad optimization even for consoles) If they wanted new people to play and enjoy the story of GTA trilogy in the last console generation, the best they could've done was a total remake of the three games.
I agree. And I honestly would’ve been cool with 1 remaster being pumped out per year. 3 years of fire ass remasters would’ve kept us busy while waiting for the next rockstar entry
They shoulda redo the game from scratch, using RDR2 version of RAGE, like yeah, it would take way longer but the end result would be much better, no joke i had better time recently playing GTA 3 with couple mods than DE.
@@nix538 don't ask too much from the company that approved making a remaster of a remaster and to the small company of 30 people and one dog who made it
Rage won't accept old games such as vice city and San Andreas. Because they all are made on an old engine called renderware. That is why they used unreal engine
I think the DE trilogy would have been awesome if they used the Rage engine instead of whatever they did, apparently it's possible since I've seen both VC and SA remade in Rage with some modding
One is a 2008 engine and one is a 2018 one. Yet the 2008 engine is superior.(Unreal has a lot of potential than the rage engine but let's be honest, DE does not make use of the Engine completely.)
Well i think rockstar just wanted players to still play like the old gta games they just made it like a modern gta look theres just bugs but i just appreciate them fixing bugs now ☺️
Nor only the engine can change the graphyc bro its depending on the graphycs design team if the art is bad yea its bad if the art is good well then its good
Good video, non sense comparison, it's basically GTA IV engine showing in "GTA VC Rage" and the DE version is holding the same features as the original VC engine did besides the graphics and minor details like more detailed grasses for example.
![GTA Vice City Rage™ - This 10 Year Old Mod is better than The Definitive Edition! [GTA IV PC Mod]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/H15gIrSzYbk/mqdefault.jpg)
![Самое быстрое прохождение GTA Vice City [Разбор спидрана]](/img/n.gif)
It's not just about engines, it's about the team and experience of the game developers
Engine matters coz the physics came from the engine
@@hil9319 Yes but Rockstar used the old animation and physics
@@hil9319 this is a noob developer started an engine using free assets. He didn't even know that using scripts and modeling we can make better environment.
GTA Vice City Rage was made by a group of modders
GTA Vice City DE was made by 20 mobile game devs, who are experienced of ruining games.
@@fftacaz8441 I'm not even a developer but I have knowledge about these stuff what about you are you a developer
The first RAGE is still impressive. Unreal didn't improve old physics, but it has stuff like parallaxing and real lighting. The only piece of dedication in DE is bringing the games to UE. Modders would've done it for SA but you know how it ended.
Rage ist better
The rage vice city is gta 4 xD
@@LucasEaFC1991 the unreal is gta vice city 10th anniversary :p
Unreal has the old Renderware physics so it's not by nature inferior - it was just given old crap to animate by 20 inexperienced mobile port devs.
@@danim8414 engines are so situational - it depends on what the developers can do with it. You have the powerful Unreal Engine producing absolute garbage like the DE, but you have the Renderware Engine producing amazing stuff like the old GTA games. RAGE produced GTA V, Red Dead Redemption 2, and GTA IV. It utilizes Euphoria Physics which is downright the best physics engine. So my point is, you need experience to do amazing work with no matter what engine. RAGE in this case is better than what the Grove Street Games studio did with UE4 for the definitive edition.
"VC rage", it's just GTA 4 features with a vc map.
Yeah mAn
Con razón se ven también
Still rage engine.
still better than DE
Are you blind? The titles says "MOD VS DEFINITIVE"
Things I expected to see,
Car reflection
Models
Weather/Time
Lighting
Vegetation
What he compares
Water
Grenade marks
Non interactive Buildings
Well Done
Well yee its not his best video but still worth watching for me, but i wouldn't need Part 2 for this anyways cuz i know GTA 4's RAGE very good, and this Video just Compares both engines on the same map
Gta vc rage models and vegetation wouldn't be fair because gta vc rage mod uses the original vice city map
Which has zero good looking vegetation and models
Imagine gta trilogy is made of rage engine
@Sup theres a mod or Rage Engine of the original trilogy. thats what they were referring to.
Imagine me with a white ladie
@@TheLatinoRedneckCowboy why? are u black? farm my land
@@madhunter6420 Looks guys a white people, time to make a white stew
I just want a simple anticheat, don't wanna anything else from them
I think the funny thing is, if rockstar used rage and got a more experienced team, this is what I imaged the final product would be
Exactly 💯
I was expecting a rage remake of gta 3 for the 20th anniversary but Rockstar went the cheap way and made a mess
Actually Unreal is way better. But the development crew are too weak to understand its powers. Also unreal has rtgi which rage doesnt have.
@@avfx111 yeah and RAGE is a third party proprietary engine unlike Unreal so it would have a lot of issues and locked features that Unreal wouldn’t have problems with. Also it has way better optimization than RAGE
@@avfx111 rage or not if they paid a good team to do it and didn't rush it then they could've gotten a good remaster heck they could've even gotten a good remake of the trilogy
The idea of putting the interior in the DE was nice. The problem though is the fact that most of the interiors are a copy and paste of the other. At this point it is better to leave a 2d texture, but random, than always and only the usual image repeated X times
@Prince The point is that it was NOT rockstar who made the definite edition ...
@Prince Yep, they ended up taking down the originals off steam too. I couldn't stop laughing when they did that. 🤣
Also keep in mind that that the rage mod was released a decade ago
I'll go for definitive edition if they improve a little more, Cuz Rage development has ended and there are only 2 missions, The developers said to add more missions in future, But it actually never released. Definately rage if it had all the missions and mods available.
A little?
Oh boy this mess just vant be fixed in my opinion
Take two doesn't like when someone mods their game so they eliminated the authors of the mod
@@RetroDestroyer Rage is quite good, But Im a bit dissappointed that it remained in beta and never released completely despite developers said they will release it with all missions.
@@somerandomguy1518 Oh that's definitely understandable
I just feel that this defective edition doesn't require any attention whatsoever from consumers
@@itdobelikedattho8112 What? the authors abandoned it when GTA 5 for PC came out, it wans't T2, dummy.
I was really amazed by the bomb explosion effect on water... which is so much realistic ❤️😯
The first game is the original game but the second is GTA IV but in the map of vice city
No bro it's just not map but missions,cutscenes
@@Kuchtokrrahahoon123 it has only 2 mission
@@Mattxoxo623 yes
@@Kuchtokrrahahoon123 Not the Point, The point is that it’s basically GTA 4 VS GTA VC:DE
yea literally gta vc map ported to gta4
GRIZZLYBEAR: can I copy ur homework?
Enxgma: Yeah Sure
Enxgma: Hands over homework
Video overall:
Yeah, Enxgma is the og. Still vibing to the background music he's using until now.
"gta vc rage" That's Gta 4 with the vice city map
no shit detective
@@JoeMama-ho2ll nah bro that’s captain obvious
@@chuckyyes fr 💀
Sherlock Holmes
Looks like I'm blind since the uploader of this video mentions it in the first 5 seconds of the vid.
I love the GTA 4 Style physics. I would like to see what GTA 3 and San Andreas look like in this way
Exist
It's gta 4 afterall
There's already a mod for both, the San Andreas one is amazing
Big fan love your content!!
So rockstar should have just modded GTA 4 into the GTA trilogy
Im late but never misses your vids!
It's ok
I like the way these game developers rethink about them and meet what we actually need in the game. Another issue is plz provide the download links if available. They will be of great use
idk man.. nothing beats the og.. everything about the og feels like home..
The intro music be like my heart when I see someone eating something delicious
I want part 2 sir . This video is really very interesting .
Congratulations for 97 k ❤️
Ty bro
"Rage engine" is incredible. Because your priority is physics.
Of course, this depends on the programmer too, but when we talk about saving time this is quite relevant to prototype.
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In the last patch of VC DE they removed the fake interiors
probably because they couldn't be bothered to set them up correctly (I.E. a bank having the interior of a bank & not that of a generic store).😅
bruh are u kidding me? it was the only good stuff
The reason rockstar kept same physics bcz they dont want to kill the feel that we used to have while playing in past
Rage is just cool 🔥
they dont use rage for vc de cuz they will rage
@@sa3di_ xd
not really
Nice video bro... ❤️ I'm your new subscriber
Now we just need a few dedicated ppl to remake the game in 2 years for it to get taken down by Cockstar
Both game has thier own ups and downs.
GTA VC RAGE from the video above is GTA IV which uses the mod map of GTA VC, the effects of explosions are very clear, helicopters over water, grenade explosions in the water, grenade explosions on land, bullets from weapons hitting water, car explosions. many people think that GTA VC uses MOD, even though GTA IV uses GTA VC's MOD MAP.
water in defective edition looks like liquid mercury
Yeah, but it isnt fair to compare them, first of all Vice City Definitive Edition is pretty much the same old RenderWare version with only some stuff from Unreal Engine, Lighting (Limited=Not utilized full potential), Shadows, Reflections (Limited=Not utilized full potential), Parallax Interiors(Limited=Not utilized full potential).. physics are the same, textures are the same, its pretty much RenderWare engine running in Unreal Engine.
On the other hand "RAGE Version" is a mod for "newer" GTA game that is years ahead of the RenderWare era that VC Definitive Edition is based and running on.
Textures are obviously and most certainly not the same. But otherwise, yes you're 100% right.
@@ThisBirdHasFlown They are actually the same, only AI upscaled (Which was done poorly BTW), I`m a modder BTW being modding the trilogy as soon as it came out (If you are interested you can check my mods out on Nexus Mods), believe me textures are identical only upscaled, and high majority of them lost the details in process (like some names on clothes).
Bro old unrealistic physics gameplay is best for vice city our child hood
The explosions feels like GTA 4 physics
Coz its gta iv with vc mod... 😅😅
Is gta 4 with vice city map
@@LucasEaFC1991 no its the hud and character as well
@@sa3di_ GTA 4 with vice city map '-'
Não sei por que as pessoas desmerecem tanto a Unreal 4. Essa engine entrega cada gráfico incrível. A diferença pro Rage é que desse último, só sai jogo AAA, de uso exclusivo de uma empresa gigante. Já a Unreal pode ser usada por qualquer um. É como um jato militar pilotado por uma criança.
Virgem
Quem q desmereceu?
Ta louco
O fato é que GTA Trilogy DE foi feito às pressas pela GS Games (uma desenvolvedora de 20 funcionários) sob encomenda da Rockstar, inicialmente pra ser um tapa-buraco enquanto GTA V next gen não chegasse. Já é um milagre eles conseguirem ter portado os jogos para UE4, ainda que com vários bugs. A Rockstar perdeu o respeito pelos jogos que a fez ser o que é hoje.
A versão rage foi feita por um modder.
Ele não tinha direções da UE4.
A versão unreal foi feita por 22 pessoas e a Unreal Engine é super facil de trabalhar com.
From what I know, the classic GTA trilogy didn't used the RAGE engine. Rockstar used the Criterion's engine named "RenderWare" for the 3D Era and when Criterion was bought by EA, they needed a new engine so they came up with the RAGE.
I may be wrong tho!
Ur right
In gta vice city gta3 and sanandreas its just not about graphics its about old physics of gameplay which makes the game insane and rememberable. If a remastered version of vice was created with gta V physics the game will be a Crap. Old physics is the real fun of this games
I like the physics of Rage and colours of Unreal
I was just waiting for the OP music to play ❤️
Tbh I thought the RAGE version means it’s all impossible difficulty missions upgrades for rage people.
if people are angry af they should play vc RAGE
@@sa3di_ people get angry when they play it cuz it always crashin
and thaats why its gta vc rage
Lmao
like every single other comparison video, NOTHING BEATS THE ORIGINALS!
So basically GTA: IV modded with GTA: VC stuff
The excuse that they wanted to keep the original trilogy its classic look was a major flaw, no one but them limited themselves, the game could've been much better if they made a remake like Mafia did, instead this poor remaster (for the 2nd time!). Unreal Engine with RenderWare physics looks bad, and in my opinion, the games don't even reach the current standard on graphics and gameplay that this gaming generation requires, for me they still look like old games from the early 2000's only with a little make up, although they demand too much for a decent performance(bad optimization even for consoles)
If they wanted new people to play and enjoy the story of GTA trilogy in the last console generation, the best they could've done was a total remake of the three games.
I agree. And I honestly would’ve been cool with 1 remaster being pumped out per year. 3 years of fire ass remasters would’ve kept us busy while waiting for the next rockstar entry
They shoulda redo the game from scratch, using RDR2 version of RAGE, like yeah, it would take way longer but the end result would be much better, no joke i had better time recently playing GTA 3 with couple mods than DE.
@@nix538 don't ask too much from the company that approved making a remaster of a remaster and to the small company of 30 people and one dog who made it
If they went on the full remake route, people would've shat on the trilogy even harder.
Have you never seen a gaming community towards remakes?
@@cat.H238 the dog was a great dev doesn't underestimate him
Now imagine if Rockstar decided to remake GTA Trilogy on RAGE engine instead Unreal Engine 4
Rage won't accept old games such as vice city and San Andreas. Because they all are made on an old engine called renderware. That is why they used unreal engine
Bro rockstar didn't made difinitive edition
It was groove street games who made that with R* permission
@@hbssubhashchandravyas5961 so is it unofficial rockstar game?
@@JEE-ff5pp no
@@JEE-ff5pp Rockstar gave this project to Groove street games
It’s depends on the developers as the definitive edition was made by mobile developers grove street games don’t have experience that rockstar has
Yeah, good explaining
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Nice video bro where are you from
I think the DE trilogy would have been awesome if they used the Rage engine instead of whatever they did, apparently it's possible since I've seen both VC and SA remade in Rage with some modding
Unreal 4 as an engine is a lot better and has more features, but the dev team and experience is more important than the engine
@@EonServoXA better ? Nah rage is superior
Let's make that one more, dude. That was interesting.
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every gta game is gangsta until gta vc arrives with rage engine
The RAGE mod is using GTA 4 physics... Even the aiming camera
Been a fan of of Ureal engine since its first game Unreal Gold 1998, UE4 made 2002 GTA Vice City look amazing in 2022.
i would like to see GTA definitive models inside GTA vice city RAGE to have a better comparation. Just excluding particle system
Gta 4 disguise as gta vc : you bought your ass directly infront of God of gta realism
Defective edition's ai : you can't beat him hand to hand
VC rage felt like GTA IV but with better graphics 😂
I literally thought that vc was made on RAGE until i saw that it was just gta 4 reskin
I feel like the rage engine is the best fitting for definitive edition
GTA vc rage feels like gta 4
This rage mod makes GTA vc like gta 4 but with the gta vc's map and object etc.
Rage is good for the physics engine, but the definitive good for the graphics is one-to-one
this rage is the one used in GTA 4. the rage used in Red Dead Redemption 2 smokes UE4 by a big margin.
the engine of gta 4 is the Euphoria after gta 4 Rockstar designed the Rage for gta V in the same way, good comparison xd
Gta vice city definitive edition is so colourful and beautiful
Unreal is a awesome engine.
It was just implemented extremely poorly in the Defective edition.
everything made by war turd studios ended up this way
The rage mod for vc looks very similar as a GTA 4. I also played that game for further details.
@GRIZZLY BEAR Does the video editor in VCRAGE work like in GTA 4?
One is a 2008 engine and one is a 2018 one. Yet the 2008 engine is superior.(Unreal has a lot of potential than the rage engine but let's be honest, DE does not make use of the Engine completely.)
Absolutely correct !
Well i think rockstar just wanted players to still play like the old gta games they just made it like a modern gta look theres just bugs but i just appreciate them fixing bugs now ☺️
The rage has animations and explosions etc like gta 4
Can't wait for part 2 sirr
part 2: Flat tire, people react, drive cars and injured people
This is basically a compare between GTA IV to GTA VC DE
The classic GTA trilogy was made on Renderware engine, not on Rage. The Rage was used on GTA IV and GTA V
Vice city back in gta 6 cool game that period🤩
Nor only the engine can change the graphyc bro its depending on the graphycs design team if the art is bad yea its bad if the art is good well then its good
No any kind of remastered edition can replace the orignal one
I like to play gta vc the most out of the trilogy tbh
The Rage version has just GTA 4s effects
Missions?
GTA VC RAGE - No missions, just a city
GTA VC UE4 - Full story, as in original.
1:47 Parallax interiors (not true interiors)
3:12 only the player shadow is realistic in UE4, the overall scenary is better on RAGE
rage if the engine of gta 4 and the physics is god dammmmmn
rage has the same gta iv physics so ofc it would be better than defintive edition
I think the unreal engine one is an exact copy of the GTA 4 physics cuz I've spent one and a half year playing GTA 4.
Where can I find the rage engine and it's courses?
imagine GTA VC rage with VC definitive edition's map
We need the part 2 💚💚
Rage mod in GTA vc means all the physics, animations, ragdoll, aim will come from GTA 4
if i have GTA 4, i could probably install that...
Rockstar games:- employees hurry up we have to make gta trilogies faster!!
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I like how this guy used Enigma original beat
But GTA VC RAGE isn't just the map VC in GTA 4 TBOGT?
Buen video pana👍👍
everyone begs to make a part 2
but no one says "for part 2" 😔
I just realized GTA 4 vs GTA VC Definitive
This is GTA 4 Engine
From Water, Grenade Explodes , View Distance is Similliar
As for me, GTA Vice City Rage is just a customized version of GTA 4.
The unreal engine development wasn't gta vice city it was gta 4
you are wrong
rage version is actually gta 4 with vice city mod
Oh I didn't know if the developers were rage my mistake 😅
Are you inspiration of enxgma, you almost 100k subs!
Good video, non sense comparison, it's basically GTA IV engine showing in "GTA VC Rage" and the DE version is holding the same features as the original VC engine did besides the graphics and minor details like more detailed grasses for example.