..Not at all mate ...They resisted foreign bullying tactics and held out until the Bitter end ...- thats what the country of Britain is based on ....'Barry Hernes is nothing but a Traitor and mercenary out to enrich his own bank-balance ..-i know a Thousand british county darts players who would rip this evil snakes head off given half a chance ...Hernes had better restrict his movements to Marbella eh ? . . . . . . . .😆😆😁😄😄😃😁
The BDO is merely a stepping stone. All the up and coming players become members the BDO by joining there home county super league. From then, they can play county darts as well as trying to make it in the big BDO tournaments. If they can cut it in the BDO worlds, the jump ship to the PDC to earn the money that they deserve for there ability. Most of the PDC top 32 have joined in the last 5 years from the BDO, because they knew they were all good enough. Thats the difference between BDO and PDC
And as soon as anyone gets good in the BDO, they move over - Dave Chisnall, Dean Winstanley, etc. The only good established ones who won't are Adams and O'Shea who would prefer to be big fish in a small pond. Even Ted Hankey has now moved over! Won't be long before Stephen Bunting is on the Ally Pally stage I feel. Watching BDO now it is nothing on what we've just viewed from the PDC.
an east-end gangster with a lot of Links in the far-east .....biggest shareholders in 'pdc' corporation are chinese busInessmen . ..This guy is a POISON . . . . . . ..
@jambenes Yeah, I agree with that but since 1986 and before the split in darts the World Championships have been held at Lakeside and, although Alexandra Palace may have more history with darts, Lakeside has more history with the World Championship. But then again, I also preferred Circus Tavern to Alexandra Palace.
Martin Adams and Barry Hearn have never got on and that's why he would never play in one of his events, but I wish he had swallowed his pride and switch when he was still on top because he beat most top players in the PDC in other events. Even Adrian Lewis go thrashed by Adams when they were both world champs in 2011.
Adams should be counting his blessings the PDC exists, because he couldn't win anything important in the BDO until most of the decent players had joined the PDC. He also swallowed his pride and played in PDC events when it suited him (he played in the Matchplay and World Grand Prix in the early 2000s) and the Grand Slam twice in '15 and '16. PS. Lewis and Adams played a few *exhibitions* in 2011. Adams won the first match after Lewis tried and failed to take out 150 with three bullseyes (it being an exhibition, after all...), Lewis then won the next two matches...
@BackFromNowere Can't think of any players going the other way. Put it in a nutshell, if James Wade went Back to the BDO, I think he'd be world champion as many times as Taylor in The PDC because the standard is nowhere near the same
Adams will never come over. Nor will Hankey. It was clear from the GrandSlam that Waites would come over at the drop of a hat if he could get a sponsor. It takes guts to join the PDC because you have to be that good to get the money.
Obviously Adams and Hankey just like to be Big Fish in a small pond, but obviously they just decided to stay in the BDO until it’s liquidation in 2020 because they knew they would never win or achieve anything in the PDC.
The BDO should change their schedule of the world championships as most people have SKY now at home which means you can watch both. WHAT A COMEDOWN from watching the PDC Championship to the 1st 2 rounds of the BDO, shocking! if they had theirs prior to it it wouldn't be so bad, this year I thought the standard was decent from the 1/4 finals onwards and Scott Waites should give the PDC a go, Olle Croft set this recluse way years ago and it's inbred in the BDO, amateur - pro need to define it.
He could buy it for a fiver now. Talk about the BDO being stuck in the past. Not surprised they are finished now. They should never come back on TV again. The WDF own the BDO now right?
i cant understand either why scott waites and tony o shea dont make the switch . if they want to be respected in the darts world their not gonna get it in what looks like a bingo hall (lakeside) . if both of them along with steve bunting dont make the final they might aswell retire .
@Mark Donohoe - They're not good enough mate, and they obviously know it. If they were good enough then no doubt they would make the switch and make 10-20 times as much money as they are on now, but they can't play to the PDC's standard.
I think maybe Waites wants the BDO title so he can say he was "world" champion then he'll switch. He knows he can't win the PDC one but would likely make more money in the PDC, might win the odd event here and there but would mostly be a last 16/quarter finalist. He knows he can do it as he won that Grand Slam title over Wade. I suspect he wants that "World" title first. Can't think why else he hasn't moved yet!
Sky should let BT have one of the competitions or make a new one so they'll want to drop the BDO champs coverage and then only BBC are keeping them afloat And hand them a comp making the not wanting to give BDO money and then their only option is to be taken over by barry
look im sorry but you cant but the bdo champion martin adams in the same league as pdc champ adrian lewis.Lewis would be to good for adams and i dont see adams or any other so called world class bdo player getting a 9 arter or even throwing a lot of 180s if adams were to get a 13 dart leg or somthing bdo commentators would go on and on about it whilst sid waddel and the rest would say lets see if he can improve it.Plus the atsmpheore at lakeside is shit LETS PLAY DARTS!!! gets on my nerves.
An amateurish feel to the BDO tournament every year, players look worn out and over the hill and lack quality! i find it unbelievable that the BBC commentators bobby george and the like fail to acknowledge the dominance, quality and huge exposure of Phil the power, the PDC etc. I understand they have a job to do but to keep mentioning the bdo u end up champion of the world is truly an empty statement!! lack of credible journalism and news reporting. BDO stinks!!
@@hcAdonis you fail to see the politics involved here ..the killing off of 'British darts organisation'= killing off of Britain ..the Biggest investors in Barry Hearnes pdc hail from China ,,it is a privately ran money making organisation..by contrast BDO was involved in british county darts Leagues ..- the majority of which were obliterated with the dissoluton of the 'BDO'...many british people lost jobs, salarys, and not least of all hobby and social life in the destruction of british darts organisation..all so Barry Herne can become a multi-Billionaire instead of just a millionaire .. . ..THINK mate THINK..these vermin are selling the country of Britain one piece at a time ...You will not like the End-result! ....-Guaranteed !!!!
Leave things the way they are I say. It'd be a massive undertaking for the PDC to sort out as the BDO has a much much larger pool of players. Leave the BDO to look after the amateur side of things. The players at the top end of the BDO are good players. The players at the top end of the PDC are the elite players. Having two world champions isn't ideal but such is life.
Only thing for Barry Hearn is - if he doesn't recognise the BDO World championship as being meaningful, he should stop John McDonald introducing guys like Mark Webster and Steve Beaton as former champions of the world. Why not only introduce PDC winners of it as former world champs and maybe for guys like Webster and Beaton say "the former BDO champion" and leave it at that? No wonder it confuses international fans when they say Taylor has 15, Barney 5, etc - people must wonder where from!
MrJACKATHY2000 NEVER call me a spastic, you are entitled to an opinion but please don't resort to being offensive. My wife is disabled and such remarks are wholly unacceptable. Whether you agree or disagree at least respect other peoples opinions, at least I'm not being offensive when I post an opinion.
i like mase but he has changed his tune, he went to the bdo to play but wasnt good enough and he was a presenter & commentator on the world trophy 2016
@vinnyvasquez Not every snooker player goes along with Hearns way of thinking, there are more than a few discerning voices, its just Allen thats spoken out. When I say that the BDO World Championship is "stronger than ever" you only have to look at the fact that it still continues to survive, it still pulls in far greater viewing figures and the PDC desperate to put their World Championship in the limelight decide to hold it ahead of the BDO in an attempt to gain superiority. How pathetic.
This comment hasn't aged well! This year the BDO "world championship" was held in a backroom of the O2 with about 30 people in attendance, broadcast on some obscure Freeview channel that no one has heard of, contested by amateurs who failed to win a PDC tour card at Q-school, and the winner received a £25 book token!
I strangely prefer the BDO World Championship. For me, the Lakeside is the only true World Championship venue and always will be. The Alexandra palace will never have the heart and history the Lakeside has. As for the standard, well I don't really mind. Look at the 2007 final between Martin Adams and Phill Nixon. It wasn't the standard of the Phil Taylor and Raymond Barneveld final of the PDC but it was definitely the same value for entertainment!! I watch and enjoy both codes ...
cubwalk92 yeah the lakeside dirty lake chandliers that are falling down and it smells of piss the home of darts is the alexandra palace home of the pdc championship betting standard better money better all round when did a player in the bdo championship last hit an 100 average ill tell you 2003 in that time the pdc has seen over 200 100 plus averages.
Erm, you are aware that the Ally Pally was hosting the News of the World Championship years before the BDO world title even existed, let alone moved to the Lakeside? Eric Bristow said his favourite venue was Jollees, which hosted the Embassy for several years before Lakeside.
Barry Hearn is not 'british' ..but (something begginning with j ) ...a mercenary and international financier (sell to the highest bidder ) ..the game oF darts is already dead ..- it just doesnt know it yet . . .😁😁😁😁😩
@@krishnan-resurrection714 Darts is a professional sport. To be a professional sport you need money coming in from TV companies, sponsors and fans. Barry Hearn is the best in the business at that. Money is not a dirty word. It's how people make a living. The lucrative nature of the PDC allows more of its players to turn professional, which allows them to dedicate themselves fully to the game and this ultimately results in higher quality darts. The vast majority of BDO players were either amateur or semi professional and as such were unable to practice as often or compete in as many tournaments as their PDC counterparts. And it showed. Nobody would have had an issue with the BDO after the split if it had had the humility to recognise the PDC as the professional side of the sport, whilst marketing itself as the organisation for up and coming talent. But it didn't do that. It still held on to this comical and deluded mindset whereby because it was around before the PDC that meant that it was the 'true' darts organisation and 'true' world championship. It was like if the English Football League was to pretend that the breakaway Premier League clubs in 1992 no longer existed and that it was still the legitimate professional football league, simply because it was around first. It is also worth mentioning that the National Darts Association of Great Britain existed before the BDO. Yet Olly Croft and his chums had no issue setting up the BDO and taking over the game, usurping the NDAGB in the process. He didn't show any loyalty to the NDAGB when he did that, yet in the 1990s when players broke away from his organisation, all of a sudden he complained about disloyalty. He was a hypocrite.
Bdo is the grassroots.. But Hearn wants to own that too! There would be no pdc if it wasn't for the BDO. And people know the difference don't worry... And who is currant champion.. Duzza.. Bdo.. You're welcome.
yabadoo finally some one talking sense I'm currently watching a game in the amateur tournament and their number 1 is averaging 81 can't wait for the rest of the tournament can you.
Ryan Durkin the problem with the pdc all the players are total muppets big headed men acting hard AF even LVG has become a mong! The no1 tit is phil taylor i think the big money in the pdc has got to there heads they all think they can fight and become tough because they are in the pdc! 😂 Total whollys in the pdc give me a bdo match with genuine real good guys. I haven'watched pdc for a year now full of complete big headed twats because they can throw a dart better 😂 When i seen phil taylor not so long ago in a interview tell the interviewer to mind his manners or he will get him into trouble swore then walked away ? Wtf who toje fuck does this idiot think he is he ain't no ronaldo 😂 that was it for me! Id never watch the fat ugly old bastard again 😂 so what pal you can throw darts good ? It's a fucking pub game a bit of fun Nothing more nothing less.
The way Adams has performed this year he should just retire! He was embarrassing against the 18 year old kid who he should have destroyed. Any PDC player worth his salt would have bullied a young pretender and sent him crying to his mummy. Adams, just as he did against an unknown at the Masters, crumbled in round 1 and hit only 20% of his doubles. At that rate the PDC wouldn't take him! O'Shea should move over though, he doesn't win titles anyway but might make more money in PDC!
The only reason the PDC survive is down to the BDO. They've been going for 18 years and have only produced one world champion, enough said. All the others who've won the PDC event have won the BDO title first. Taylor apart the quality between the two is very similar. Chizzy was a BDO finalist, he went to the PDC and hammered Taylor. I heard many say that Barney wasn't a class player but he won the PDC title as soon as he went over. Webster's also done Taylor too but how many PDC regulars have?
At least 20 Lakeside "champions" and runners-up have tried the PDC. TWO of them won the PDC world title (Part and Barney) and one other (Whitlock) has reached the final. Most of the others (Beaton, Burnett, Wallace, Klaasen, Kist, Webster, Fordham, Hankey, Bunting) have had no impact whatsoever, just also rans and cannon fodder for the top players. Some (Walton, Mitchell, O'Shea) couldn't even get through Q-school. As for Barney, he lost almost 75% of his matches against Taylor. They met in 7 PDC major finals. Barney lost 6 of them, including a 7-1 world final loss.
And where did Phil Taylor play before the Pdc??? Barry hands off ok, I like bdo because of the tense drama supporters dressed up having a laugh yes quiet when throwing that's a bit of respect I think for the players, the Pdc yes I love the atmosphere, lots of 180s but most of all you can't beat the atmosphere of a lakeside underdog making his stamp on the original big stage in the whole world of darts can you??? As I say I'm a supporter of both, but you can't beat, ladies and gentlemen.....let's......play......darts god bless his sole!!!!!!
scottie waites, adams and O'shea all need to grow a pair! they are steadily going stale and in decline while the strength and prestige of the PDC will help to invigorate them and tgeir game. There's no shame of moving over i.e king, Barney, hankey and numerous others have all seen the light.
@vinnyvasquez What's even more pathetic is the sheer desperation of Hearn trying to buy out the BDO because he wants all the glory for the PDC championship. Like it or not the BDO World title is still going and the winner is just as much of a World Champ as the PDC winner. As for quality, if the Beeb didn't get the viewers they wouldn't show it, simple as, they know they are on to a winner as every year the BDO title attracts more viewers than the PDC ever will.
The BDO is "still going" in the same way that a comatose patient on life support is still going... Guess the BBC stopped getting the viewers, hence them ditching the BDO and televising a PDC event instead... Imagine being so bad that even Channel 4 don't want you lol
@@JohnSmith-su3ze It's funny because every straw the BDO mob clutch at has gradually been taken away from them: "We've still got more prizemoney"... no more "Phil Taylor is the only difference between the orgs"... no more "We're still on the BBC getting more viewers"... no more "We're still the 'official' world championship recognised by the WDF"... no more "We're still at the Lakeside, the home of darts"... no more "Every PDC player started in the BDO"... no more What's next, "we've still got Martin Adams"?
@vinnyvasquez The fact that the BDO Championship is still surviving and stronger than ever really gets under the PDC's nose and that why Hearn wanted to try and buy them out. He cannot stomach the thought that a rival world championship gets more viewers and greater coverage than his own. He's only interested in himself and whats in it for him, just ask snooker player Mark Allen what he thinks of him.
Oh yes, let's all listen to the great sage Mark Allen.....and let's all listen to you saying the BDO is better than the PDC....you're going to make us all so intelligent!
The BDO was around way before the PDC therefore it will always be the best regardless of how many 'world titles' Phil taylor has won, to me the titles he won in the PDC are null and void! he didn't win them in the original world championship, so they aren't titles he holds! there is no doubting his talent and skill, he is an amazing player. but not all of his titles stand in my eyes!
The BDO only came into being because Olly Croft did exactly the same as the PDC by breaking away from the NDAGB and taking over darts. Olly Croft claimed they "didn't owe darts players a living" when he personally made a good living from darts, with a BDO salary, a Rolls Royce and living rent free in a BDO property. The BDO tried to stop Bristow, Taylor, Lowe, Wilson, Deller, Anderson etc making a living from darts and illegally tried to ban them from playing darts worldwide. You actually think an organisation that behaves in that way has any credibility? As far as I'm concerned, from that day on the BDO lost all claim to being a "world championship". The WDF agrees with me and has now stripped them of that status. The PDC is the heart and soul of darts, with a chairman acting in the interests of the sport, allowing players to make a good living and providing top quality darts for thousands of fans and millions of viewers. PS. The News of the World Championship was around decades before the BDO even existed so even that argument doesn't hold water.
..and now the Biggest majority (unofficial) shareholders in crook Barry Hearnes 'pdc' corporation are all resident in china !!!!🤔🤔🤔 ...so destruction of 'BDO' was destruction of British interests ,, , , , - makes sense, , , , ,
@@flaviusconstantius9702 but now pdc is on the downslide ...the gap left by sid waddel and Taylor is just too great to fill ...'premier league darts' ..a cynical moneygrabbing exercise will be the death knell ...in much the same way as 'premier league snooker' *remember that ..) did for darts ....=yes ..its 'that man ' again ! ....
Looking back now what a mistake that was
..Not at all mate ...They resisted foreign bullying tactics and held out until the Bitter end ...- thats what the country of Britain is based on ....'Barry Hernes is nothing but a Traitor and mercenary out to enrich his own bank-balance ..-i know a Thousand british county darts players who would rip this evil snakes head off given half a chance ...Hernes had better restrict his movements to Marbella eh ? . . . . . . . .😆😆😁😄😄😃😁
Olly Croft running darts was like the village idiot piloting a stealth bomber
The BDO is merely a stepping stone. All the up and coming players become members the BDO by joining there home county super league. From then, they can play county darts as well as trying to make it in the big BDO tournaments. If they can cut it in the BDO worlds, the jump ship to the PDC to earn the money that they deserve for there ability. Most of the PDC top 32 have joined in the last 5 years from the BDO, because they knew they were all good enough. Thats the difference between BDO and PDC
3 quarters of dart leagues in britain are now gone and the place is being flooded with immigration fro africa .....are you happy now ?
Could buy it for £2 now!
..could buy Britain for 2pounds now ..- and THEY have done . . . ..😉
The PDC is the future of Darts. The BDO is the past.
I ask you this, how many players go to the BDO from the PDC? Very very few.
Ten years later. You couldn’t have been more right
so you hate Britain and love china ???????😁😁😁😆 ..there is word for that ... Traitor
12 years layer ....the pdc is now on the way out ...... !!!!
@@alanhargreaves-thevoiceofr2361It’s been 12 years, more than 12 and the PDC is still going strong!!!
@@alanhargreaves-thevoiceofr2361Its been more than 12… the PDC is still alice and thriving.
What a chance BDO had and stupidly let it slip
And now they are finished
@@davidbaxter7765 AND NOW SO ARE THE PDC . ...-IF CHINESE INVESTMENT IS WITHDRAWN . . .. .
Made a big mistake there! Look at where it is now!
And now the BDO is dead
..PDC to follow ....after chinese investors withdraw . . . .
@@krishnan-resurrection714this aged terribly
@@anthonymatute6057 not at all mate ...give it 10 years ....
They'll regret it
They did😂
Not Martin Adams though
@@lbreindl6Not Martin Adams though
and now mason is a pundit at the bdo championships or as he calls it car crash tv
They should of took his offer now look at them
Yes - kaput
And as soon as anyone gets good in the BDO, they move over - Dave Chisnall, Dean Winstanley, etc. The only good established ones who won't are Adams and O'Shea who would prefer to be big fish in a small pond. Even Ted Hankey has now moved over! Won't be long before Stephen Bunting is on the Ally Pally stage I feel. Watching BDO now it is nothing on what we've just viewed from the PDC.
Is it me? But Barry Hearn reminds me of some sort of east end gangster!!!
Do you think he does what he does for the love of the game🤔🤔🤔
Its money
It's all about the coin.
an east-end gangster with a lot of Links in the far-east .....biggest shareholders in 'pdc' corporation are chinese busInessmen . ..This guy is a POISON . . . . . . ..
he is jewish .
@jambenes Yeah, I agree with that but since 1986 and before the split in darts the World Championships have been held at Lakeside and, although Alexandra Palace may have more history with darts, Lakeside has more history with the World Championship. But then again, I also preferred Circus Tavern to Alexandra Palace.
Martin Adams and Barry Hearn have never got on and that's why he would never play in one of his events, but I wish he had swallowed his pride and switch when he was still on top because he beat most top players in the PDC in other events. Even Adrian Lewis go thrashed by Adams when they were both world champs in 2011.
Adams should be counting his blessings the PDC exists, because he couldn't win anything important in the BDO until most of the decent players had joined the PDC. He also swallowed his pride and played in PDC events when it suited him (he played in the Matchplay and World Grand Prix in the early 2000s) and the Grand Slam twice in '15 and '16.
PS. Lewis and Adams played a few *exhibitions* in 2011. Adams won the first match after Lewis tried and failed to take out 150 with three bullseyes (it being an exhibition, after all...), Lewis then won the next two matches...
Barry unbelievable man ... he wants to buy the other ... a lot of peoples angry at him ... for that ...
past the torch olly ya old bag
@cubwalk92 Alexandra Palace and darts go way back in history. Long before Lakeside
Think back to the News Of The World championship
@BackFromNowere Can't think of any players going the other way. Put it in a nutshell, if James Wade went Back to the BDO, I think he'd be world champion as many times as Taylor in The PDC because the standard is nowhere near the same
Barry ripping it to the BDO with the 'county association meeting' comment 😂
Adams will never come over. Nor will Hankey. It was clear from the GrandSlam that Waites would come over at the drop of a hat if he could get a sponsor. It takes guts to join the PDC because you have to be that good to get the money.
Obviously Adams and Hankey just like to be Big Fish in a small pond, but obviously they just decided to stay in the BDO until it’s liquidation in 2020 because they knew they would never win or achieve anything in the PDC.
@tappy42
How is it annoying it's wat makes PDC far better than BDO
there's actually atmosphere at PDC comps!
The BDO should change their schedule of the world championships as most people have SKY now at home which means you can watch both. WHAT A COMEDOWN from watching the PDC Championship to the 1st 2 rounds of the BDO, shocking! if they had theirs prior to it it wouldn't be so bad, this year I thought the standard was decent from the 1/4 finals onwards and Scott Waites should give the PDC a go, Olle Croft set this recluse way years ago and it's inbred in the BDO, amateur - pro need to define it.
Barry Hearn real gd for pdc darts but awfull for snooker
.WATCH AND SEE ...DARTS GO THE SAME WAY . . . .😄😄😉
He could buy it for a fiver now. Talk about the BDO being stuck in the past. Not surprised they are finished now. They should never come back on TV again. The WDF own the BDO now right?
The WDF own everything about what the BDO once was now
go back in 2015 with a massive offer like 5millon in 2015
i cant understand either why scott waites and tony o shea dont make the switch . if they want to be respected in the darts world their not gonna get it in what looks like a bingo hall (lakeside) . if both of them along with steve bunting dont make the final they might aswell retire .
mark donohoe O’Shea would be absolutely fucked in the PDC
@Mark Donohoe - They're not good enough mate, and they obviously know it. If they were good enough then no doubt they would make the switch and make 10-20 times as much money as they are on now, but they can't play to the PDC's standard.
@@young321bookie ..STILL IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT NOW ??? . . . 🤣😅😆
I think maybe Waites wants the BDO title so he can say he was "world" champion then he'll switch. He knows he can't win the PDC one but would likely make more money in the PDC, might win the odd event here and there but would mostly be a last 16/quarter finalist. He knows he can do it as he won that Grand Slam title over Wade. I suspect he wants that "World" title first. Can't think why else he hasn't moved yet!
Sky should let BT have one of the competitions or make a new one so they'll want to drop the BDO champs coverage and then only BBC are keeping them afloat And hand them a comp making the not wanting to give BDO money and then their only option is to be taken over by barry
look im sorry but you cant but the bdo champion martin adams in the same league as pdc champ adrian lewis.Lewis would be to good for adams and i dont see adams or any other so called world class bdo player getting a 9 arter or even throwing a lot of 180s if adams were to get a 13 dart leg or somthing bdo commentators would go on and on about it whilst sid waddel and the rest would say lets see if he can improve it.Plus the atsmpheore at lakeside is shit LETS PLAY DARTS!!! gets on my nerves.
An amateurish feel to the BDO tournament every year, players look worn out and over the hill and lack quality! i find it unbelievable that the BBC commentators bobby george and the like fail to acknowledge the dominance, quality and huge exposure of Phil the power, the PDC etc. I understand they have a job to do but to keep mentioning the bdo u end up champion of the world is truly an empty statement!! lack of credible journalism and news reporting. BDO stinks!!
Time proved you right......the BDO is on the verge of going bust
The BDO has become a joke
2 years later from that ,...the pdc is now a joke ...DARTS is finished ...😮💨🤥🥴
@@krishnan-resurrection714 how is pdc a joke??
@@JohnSmith-su3ze as much as it was the dominant force once upon a time it was inevitable they would go bust.
@@hcAdonis you fail to see the politics involved here ..the killing off of 'British darts organisation'= killing off of Britain ..the Biggest investors in Barry Hearnes pdc hail from China ,,it is a privately ran money making organisation..by contrast BDO was involved in british county darts Leagues ..- the majority of which were obliterated with the dissoluton of the 'BDO'...many british people lost jobs, salarys, and not least of all hobby and social life in the destruction of british darts organisation..all so Barry Herne can become a multi-Billionaire instead of just a millionaire .. . ..THINK mate THINK..these vermin are selling the country of Britain one piece at a time ...You will not like the End-result! ....-Guaranteed !!!!
Leave things the way they are I say. It'd be a massive undertaking for the PDC to sort out as the BDO has a much much larger pool of players. Leave the BDO to look after the amateur side of things. The players at the top end of the BDO are good players. The players at the top end of the PDC are the elite players. Having two world champions isn't ideal but such is life.
You still think this? The BDO has made a t9tal and utter mess if things, and this much was obvious back then.
@@chrisearle1542 made a mess of what things? It's world championship?
@@MadBoy8734 Not any more 🤣
@@mrchico2621 everything the BDO looked after is now in the hands of the WDF and UKDA. The PDC haven't took it over so nothing's changed has it?
@@MadBoy8734 Well yes, there's no "BDO World Championship" anymore for one.
Only thing for Barry Hearn is - if he doesn't recognise the BDO World championship as being meaningful, he should stop John McDonald introducing guys like Mark Webster and Steve Beaton as former champions of the world. Why not only introduce PDC winners of it as former world champs and maybe for guys like Webster and Beaton say "the former BDO champion" and leave it at that? No wonder it confuses international fans when they say Taylor has 15, Barney 5, etc - people must wonder where from!
..are you happy now that the entire country is being demolished , not just the darts leagues ..?
No way waites get hammerd
MrJACKATHY2000 NEVER call me a spastic, you are entitled to an opinion but please don't resort to being offensive. My wife is disabled and such remarks are wholly unacceptable. Whether you agree or disagree at least respect other peoples opinions, at least I'm not being offensive when I post an opinion.
He wasn't being literal. You're taking it literally
He was just trying to say you were being stupid. Get some perspective
Oh and Scott Waites who simply needs to grow a set and become a full time PDC pro instead of trying to do a day job when he clearly doesn't need to!
@tappy42 Yes it's just you!
i like mase but he has changed his tune, he went to the bdo to play but wasnt good enough and he was a presenter & commentator on the world trophy 2016
mase was always a punk . . . .
that's true slotty girl
@vinnyvasquez Not every snooker player goes along with Hearns way of thinking, there are more than a few discerning voices, its just Allen thats spoken out. When I say that the BDO World Championship is "stronger than ever" you only have to look at the fact that it still continues to survive, it still pulls in far greater viewing figures and the PDC desperate to put their World Championship in the limelight decide to hold it ahead of the BDO in an attempt to gain superiority. How pathetic.
This comment hasn't aged well! This year the BDO "world championship" was held in a backroom of the O2 with about 30 people in attendance, broadcast on some obscure Freeview channel that no one has heard of, contested by amateurs who failed to win a PDC tour card at Q-school, and the winner received a £25 book token!
@@flaviusconstantius9702The 2020 lakeside winner only won enough money for a single meal or something
it should be called the player darts orgianston not fucking bdo or pdc
After this lockdown, half of the world look like dart player's.
Player's? Lol
one darts be mint bbc get one tourdment and itv and world finle be perfect
I strangely prefer the BDO World Championship. For me, the Lakeside is the only true World Championship venue and always will be. The Alexandra palace will never have the heart and history the Lakeside has. As for the standard, well I don't really mind. Look at the 2007 final between Martin Adams and Phill Nixon. It wasn't the standard of the Phil Taylor and Raymond Barneveld final of the PDC but it was definitely the same value for entertainment!! I watch and enjoy both codes ...
cubwalk92 yeah the lakeside dirty lake chandliers that are falling down and it smells of piss the home of darts is the alexandra palace home of the pdc championship betting standard better money better all round when did a player in the bdo championship last hit an 100 average ill tell you 2003 in that time the pdc has seen over 200 100 plus averages.
Erm, you are aware that the Ally Pally was hosting the News of the World Championship years before the BDO world title even existed, let alone moved to the Lakeside? Eric Bristow said his favourite venue was Jollees, which hosted the Embassy for several years before Lakeside.
Fair play to the bdo, they may have gone but they didn’t sell their souls. Hearn just wanted the name
Barry Hearn is not 'british' ..but (something begginning with j ) ...a mercenary and international financier (sell to the highest bidder ) ..the game oF darts is already dead ..- it just doesnt know it yet . . .😁😁😁😁😩
@@harrisonmckenzie4905 how is people dressing up in fancy dress and singing “Chase the Sun” xenophobic?
@@krishnan-resurrection714 Darts is a professional sport. To be a professional sport you need money coming in from TV companies, sponsors and fans. Barry Hearn is the best in the business at that.
Money is not a dirty word. It's how people make a living.
The lucrative nature of the PDC allows more of its players to turn professional, which allows them to dedicate themselves fully to the game and this ultimately results in higher quality darts.
The vast majority of BDO players were either amateur or semi professional and as such were unable to practice as often or compete in as many tournaments as their PDC counterparts.
And it showed.
Nobody would have had an issue with the BDO after the split if it had had the humility to recognise the PDC as the professional side of the sport, whilst marketing itself as the organisation for up and coming talent.
But it didn't do that. It still held on to this comical and deluded mindset whereby because it was around before the PDC that meant that it was the 'true' darts organisation and 'true' world championship.
It was like if the English Football League was to pretend that the breakaway Premier League clubs in 1992 no longer existed and that it was still the legitimate professional football league, simply because it was around first.
It is also worth mentioning that the National Darts Association of Great Britain existed before the BDO. Yet Olly Croft and his chums had no issue setting up the BDO and taking over the game, usurping the NDAGB in the process.
He didn't show any loyalty to the NDAGB when he did that, yet in the 1990s when players broke away from his organisation, all of a sudden he complained about disloyalty.
He was a hypocrite.
Ernie McCracken ..congrats! ...youve just earned 3 pound 50 .....and Lost your soul into the bargain 🤣🤣🤣
Bdo is the grassroots.. But Hearn wants to own that too!
There would be no pdc if it wasn't for the BDO.
And people know the difference don't worry... And who is currant champion.. Duzza.. Bdo.. You're welcome.
he offered the money because he knows the bdo is the real championship .. its a thorn in the pdc money championships side
hugh jarsol real championship what are you smoking the pdc is galaxies ahead of the bdo amateur tournament hearns right.
yabadoo finally some one talking sense I'm currently watching a game in the amateur tournament and their number 1 is averaging 81 can't wait for the rest of the tournament can you.
yabadoo think of it as watching uk gold and it's not so bad.
Ryan Durkin the problem with the pdc all the players are total muppets big headed men acting hard AF even LVG has become a mong! The no1 tit is phil taylor i think the big money in the pdc has got to there heads they all think they can fight and become tough because they are in the pdc! 😂
Total whollys in the pdc give me a bdo match with genuine real good guys.
I haven'watched pdc for a year now full of complete big headed twats because they can throw a dart better 😂
When i seen phil taylor not so long ago in a interview tell the interviewer to mind his manners or he will get him into trouble swore then walked away ? Wtf who toje fuck does this idiot think he is he ain't no ronaldo 😂 that was it for me! Id never watch the fat ugly old bastard again 😂 so what pal you can throw darts good ?
It's a fucking pub game a bit of fun
Nothing more nothing less.
@@johnjenks7812 You are literally the biggest idiot I've ever come across
Phil Taylor is Ronaldo. He's the greatest darts player of all-time
The way Adams has performed this year he should just retire! He was embarrassing against the 18 year old kid who he should have destroyed. Any PDC player worth his salt would have bullied a young pretender and sent him crying to his mummy. Adams, just as he did against an unknown at the Masters, crumbled in round 1 and hit only 20% of his doubles. At that rate the PDC wouldn't take him! O'Shea should move over though, he doesn't win titles anyway but might make more money in PDC!
The only reason the PDC survive is down to the BDO. They've been going for 18 years and have only produced one world champion, enough said. All the others who've won the PDC event have won the BDO title first. Taylor apart the quality between the two is very similar. Chizzy was a BDO finalist, he went to the PDC and hammered Taylor. I heard many say that Barney wasn't a class player but he won the PDC title as soon as he went over. Webster's also done Taylor too but how many PDC regulars have?
coracleman stop talking shit you're only bitter because you've gotta watch the rubbish bdo because you can't afford sky.
At least 20 Lakeside "champions" and runners-up have tried the PDC. TWO of them won the PDC world title (Part and Barney) and one other (Whitlock) has reached the final. Most of the others (Beaton, Burnett, Wallace, Klaasen, Kist, Webster, Fordham, Hankey, Bunting) have had no impact whatsoever, just also rans and cannon fodder for the top players. Some (Walton, Mitchell, O'Shea) couldn't even get through Q-school.
As for Barney, he lost almost 75% of his matches against Taylor. They met in 7 PDC major finals. Barney lost 6 of them, including a 7-1 world final loss.
And where did Phil Taylor play before the Pdc??? Barry hands off ok, I like bdo because of the tense drama supporters dressed up having a laugh yes quiet when throwing that's a bit of respect I think for the players, the Pdc yes I love the atmosphere, lots of 180s but most of all you can't beat the atmosphere of a lakeside underdog making his stamp on the original big stage in the whole world of darts can you??? As I say I'm a supporter of both, but you can't beat, ladies and gentlemen.....let's......play......darts god bless his sole!!!!!!
Phil Taylor left the BDO because it was shite and poorly managed
Now the BDO are on the verge of going bust, he was proved right
@@JohnSmith-su3ze Think you made a typo there mate! 😀
@@spyrytaraxalass Haha corrected! Thanks!
IT IS STILL GOING 8 YEARS ON. IT CANNOT BE ALL BAD THEN.
The BDO is in the toilet mate
@@JohnSmith-su3zeI agree, the BDO is well dead
scottie waites, adams and O'shea all need to grow a pair! they are steadily going stale and in decline while the strength and prestige of the PDC will help to invigorate them and tgeir game. There's no shame of moving over i.e king, Barney, hankey and numerous others have all seen the light.
@vinnyvasquez What's even more pathetic is the sheer desperation of Hearn trying to buy out the BDO because he wants all the glory for the PDC championship. Like it or not the BDO World title is still going and the winner is just as much of a World Champ as the PDC winner. As for quality, if the Beeb didn't get the viewers they wouldn't show it, simple as, they know they are on to a winner as every year the BDO title attracts more viewers than the PDC ever will.
^This comment didn't age well lol
The BDO is "still going" in the same way that a comatose patient on life support is still going...
Guess the BBC stopped getting the viewers, hence them ditching the BDO and televising a PDC event instead... Imagine being so bad that even Channel 4 don't want you lol
@@JohnSmith-su3ze It's funny because every straw the BDO mob clutch at has gradually been taken away from them:
"We've still got more prizemoney"... no more
"Phil Taylor is the only difference between the orgs"... no more
"We're still on the BBC getting more viewers"... no more
"We're still the 'official' world championship recognised by the WDF"... no more
"We're still at the Lakeside, the home of darts"... no more
"Every PDC player started in the BDO"... no more
What's next, "we've still got Martin Adams"?
Martin adams is quiet good best one bdo
@vinnyvasquez The fact that the BDO Championship is still surviving and stronger than ever really gets under the PDC's nose and that why Hearn wanted to try and buy them out. He cannot stomach the thought that a rival world championship gets more viewers and greater coverage than his own. He's only interested in himself and whats in it for him, just ask snooker player Mark Allen what he thinks of him.
Oh yes, let's all listen to the great sage Mark Allen.....and let's all listen to you saying the BDO is better than the PDC....you're going to make us all so intelligent!
..with Eric Bristow and Sid waddells deaths .....the pdc is now also ....DEAD . . . . . . ..
@@krishnan-resurrection714the PDC is certainly not dead to this day…
@@anthonymatute6057 Give it 8 years ...-just like snooker .
@@krishnan-resurrection714 I’ll tell you how the PDC is doing after 8 years.
i do not like "Wolfie"!!!!
The BDO was around way before the PDC therefore it will always be the best regardless of how many 'world titles' Phil taylor has won, to me the titles he won in the PDC are null and void! he didn't win them in the original world championship, so they aren't titles he holds! there is no doubting his talent and skill, he is an amazing player. but not all of his titles stand in my eyes!
xDufff fuck off you nob surely a man hitting 100 plus averages and beating a far better field is the proper world champion.
Hahaha BDO fans are literally mentally retarded. So funny to read their comments saying Phil Taylor is not a legitimate world champion hahhahha
The BDO only came into being because Olly Croft did exactly the same as the PDC by breaking away from the NDAGB and taking over darts.
Olly Croft claimed they "didn't owe darts players a living" when he personally made a good living from darts, with a BDO salary, a Rolls Royce and living rent free in a BDO property.
The BDO tried to stop Bristow, Taylor, Lowe, Wilson, Deller, Anderson etc making a living from darts and illegally tried to ban them from playing darts worldwide.
You actually think an organisation that behaves in that way has any credibility?
As far as I'm concerned, from that day on the BDO lost all claim to being a "world championship". The WDF agrees with me and has now stripped them of that status. The PDC is the heart and soul of darts, with a chairman acting in the interests of the sport, allowing players to make a good living and providing top quality darts for thousands of fans and millions of viewers.
PS. The News of the World Championship was around decades before the BDO even existed so even that argument doesn't hold water.
..and now the Biggest majority (unofficial) shareholders in crook Barry Hearnes 'pdc' corporation are all resident in china !!!!🤔🤔🤔 ...so destruction of 'BDO' was destruction of British interests ,, , , , - makes sense, , , , ,
@@flaviusconstantius9702 but now pdc is on the downslide ...the gap left by sid waddel and Taylor is just too great to fill ...'premier league darts' ..a cynical moneygrabbing exercise will be the death knell ...in much the same way as 'premier league snooker' *remember that ..) did for darts ....=yes ..its 'that man ' again ! ....
I in the grand slam pdc players were off form waites crap dart player 80 odd average 90 average he wouldn't qualify for 1st round pdc no way
He would qualify, but at preliminary round
Pdc players would blow bdo players away only decent bdo player is martin adams rest crap glen durrant etc rubbish
+Darren Dunn scott waites would hold his own withouth a doubt
+Darren Dunn scottie waite won a pdc major
Martin Adams is shite
true, scotty waites won the grand slam a few years ago ^^
+whitee1992 ye but waites at his best would go deep in alot of pdc major back in 2010