Such important points. The business about approaching horses from the side or at an angle, rather than straight on -- that's pretty well understood at this point. But the recommendation not to step closer to the horse AND reach for him at the same time -- never heard that before and it makes so much sense. I love helpful hints like this, because the ideas are simple and easy to explain to people who aren't steeped in how horses perceive their environment and how they think. So much of how horses should be handled is not common sense and not intuitive.
I find it is often intuitive or discernment with people and animals if we take even a little time to evaluate rather than just GO at 'em! But there's always some learning curve, getting to know the horse, dog or person, even a bit! That c
Ohhhh phones/computers....I seemed to have discernment about most animals, horses and dogs from childhood. I have called out a doberman crouching stalking my 2 Yorkies at my side! I spoke to the Dobie to STAY, picked up 1 Yorkie, them said GO HOME to the Dobie & it went home. I have other such accounts! I was never scared of horses, would go get on Lucy, full size horse by climbing on the fence at 6 & ride her across pasture to play with friends. At 9 in another place I found a horse in next pasture made a noose out of bailing twine, slipped it over his nose climbed in the fence trying to help another child up with me when mother found me 😂 LOL, the teens wouldn't ride him to get the cows up, they were afraid of him! There are more with dogs too! So much I never learned & wish I had when I was younger! Children and animals are so very special!!
Former stable hand. I worked with show horses so I was responsible for turn out, feed, and all the other barn chores. We had several horses that no one but me could catch. I'd stuff my pockets full of cookies and just do random stuff in the fields to get the horses curious enough that they come to me. Then I'd give everyone a cookie and throw the halter on the horse/horses I needed.
@Woodsman the trick is to make it a social visit, not a "Come on. You have to do work" visit. So long as you aren't giving them handfuls of cookies every time, one or two isn't going to hurt them.
This is why my Dad would send little 9yo me to catch his saddle horse. Chief didn't like how much pressure Dad brought, but I would sidle up and he would let me catch him.
This is the same for approaching dogs. Approach sideways and don’t stick your hand in their face, let them approach you, smell you, and interact with you on their own terms
This is pretty much the same for even approaching strangers. It’s interesting how we show each other courtesies and follow social cues, but don’t extend that to animals. Approach a person you don’t know head on and it’s a sign of aggression, but we don’t consider that when approaching animals.
Same for my guineapig. If you approach her straight on, she will run out and try to bite your toes. She's free roamed in my bedroom and loves the taste of human flesh.
Oh my gosh that is so true!! One would never think about that! That has to be true for most all animals then. As in dogs I bet that makes a difference with them too! Such great advice.
one strange fact that I always remember is you can't pull a horse while facing them. They won't walk into you. You have to face away before they will follow you.
When I had a horse she was kept in the pasture. I cannot tell you how many times I played TAG with her. Once I touched her she was done. It was TOUCHING her that was the problem. She would see me coming for days. So many good memories. ❤️❤️
People, even horse people occasionally, forget that no matter how big they are horses are prey animals. In their mind, everything is going to eat them until proven otherwise.
As a beginner, I always look down and approach slowly-- from my own uncertainty. Your way made the scales fall from my eyes. I used to loathe how men jutted their hands in my space for a hard-gripping handshake when we women first turned ourselves loose in the corporate stable of business in the early 1970s.
In business I always held my hand out first to the male with a firm handshake. Shows you are a professional, not intimidated and less pressure for me & them.
@@livelife418 When my military family lived in Orléans, France, the beautiful village where Jeanne d'Arc repelled the British, our adored French teacher was Mme LaPlace. / As for offering your hand first, in previous eras when mothers were home and taught their children proper comportment, it was the woman who decided whether or not to make contact. Alas, none of the little boys continued that courtesy in the corporations I joined.
@@melissastreeter22 I am 74 so we might be in different eras. Maybe I was fast on the draw, but it seemed men were not used to that and respected the confidence it showed. The key word is "seemed"
@@melissastreeter22 Thank you for mentioning your teacher in France. I believe living in foreign countries is the best education in the world. Military family? I imagibe you have some of the most exciting experiences life has to offer along with cultural shock most will never know.
Used to be a real pain to try to catch one of the ponies. But I found that if I pretend to just pick at the grass and wander around as I get closer to her she goes from “ah shit is the vet here?” to “what in the world are you so interested in?” Lol.
when I was working at my last barn there were two mares that you could not catch them no matter what you do. the only way is to go down to the herd and meander between the horses and make your way to them it is about keeping back to them and dropping the lead roap over their neck they were caught. you could halter them. BTW, the 2 mares were sisters.
It's also how you LEAD a horse. Don't face them and pull...walk beside, give and take, give and take, they'll follow you. You're an awesome horseman!!!!
I learned this as a kid, but I was taught that it’s a predator vs herd animal body language. Specifically, that predators tend to appear facing the horse while fellow herd animals like cows or horses or goats will position themselves sideways, either facing the same direction or the opposite direction. It works too, I’ve used that simple trick all my life whenever I’m around horses or deer or goats or whatever. Fwiw, dogs seem to react to it too. Not exactly the same, but they definitely react to it.
I am 79 & if I can get on a horse, I will ride. Better on 4 feet than 2 & even in equine therapy where they had to load me o the horse, she tried me & I won! They are very smart(or most are), but we can, need to be smarter! Hehehe
I learned some of what your saying a few years ago. The stable where I had lessons had all kinds of animals, sheep, goats, alpacas, buffalos, mini horses, mini donkeys and a big donkey who was in charge. I always brought “thank you carrots and apples” for the horse I rode. Pretty soon everyone was getting a little something until the donkey stole my purse. Ehhhh. No you didn’t!
Retired trainer of forty years and I was always gobsmacked at the advice of the so called experts teaching to make eye contact on the approach. Oh please…😆
Thanks for this information. I'm working with a 4 y/o mare that came from the race track. Wanting to take her back to the race only this time she'll be the pony horse leading After Chad in
You are so SMART. RIGHT NOW IM BED MY HUSBAND IS SLEEPING, AND HE'S MY HORSE,,, YOUR WAY WORKS GREAT IF I LOOK A HIM. IM SCARED IF I THOUCH HIM I WILL WAKE HIM UP.. GOOD POINT..
It's drive and draw. Exactly how horses move each other. Invite the other horse into the herd (of one or more) or drive the other horse away. Sometimes driving another horse away from the herd (of one or more) is a punishment. Other times driving another horse just means hey I want to go over to the pond but not alone so you're going too. So often people see two horses leaving the barn or herd and they see one horse following another when really it is often one horse driving another. My lead mare in the pasture would never go anywhere away from herd alone. She always got another horse to go with her by driving it in the direction she wanted to go. If the driven horse made a motion to turn around she would block the move with subtle move with her own body. So fun to watch and learn from.
This horse looks young, like a gangly teenager. He also looks relaxed. Perhas he is a rescue that needs to put un a little more weight. Cant really see his ribs, so he is not that thin.
If I approach my colt the way you explain he is trying to be protective and try to nibble or kick me or my husband with front leg, even if I stroke him after I stepped on side ways to him just the way you said
I didn't know that I knew this. I used to catch a mustang mare by pretending that catching her wasn't all that important. Sometimes I'd sit down in the field & she would come to see what I was up to...
OR develop such a relationship with them you can approach them when they're lying down and they don't move. Stable Horse Training - Graeme is the best at this!
I work on a horse farm and you do not approach a horse from behind. Always approach a horse from the beginning looking right at it and walk slowly up to it. And if you want to feed it keep thumb away from it. Your hand must be with your thumb away from it.the apple in the palm of your hand .
Tent. Pegging? Tent? With a T? ⛺️?? From the tradition of soldiers riding into the camp of their enemy and using their lances to remove the Tent pegs in order to collapse the officers tents...and cause mayhem and confusion??
@@AmazonEventer This answer will be interesting. Am writing a book about medieval mercenaries, surprised to discover this practice often happened at night when the enemy camp was sleeping. Now I learn it actually has a gerund--an action verb ending in "i-n-g."
These guys earn a living teaching people, men and women, how to correctly deal with horses to avoid problems, or to get rid of problems. This keeps horses safe.
Catch them first, THEN give 'em a treat, take the halter off and wish them a good day. From the horses perspective....no work, no poorly fitted saddle, no pinching bit, no heavy hands from lousy riders.
You fork hay in the front end and manure away from the backend then send a vet a large wad of cash. These were the only lessons I learned from my wife and daughters having horses...oh, and most people don't want to eat 'em
darn I constantly get closer to horses, being frontally set and simultaneusly approaching with my hand up... some weird thinking convinces me that it will be easier on horses, because I will approach them faster... the hell? I need to work on my bad habits I suppose.
I think various things,--. Can be poor feed, riding a young horse too young with much weight & or too long and hard (I heard), probably being stabled & never getting to walk freely & run in pasture, especially as maturing, I believe. These people know more than me. I went to the dogs many years ago & cried so hard when my little App mare left me!
I got it that's great approach a horse like a horse would approach another one they don't play games they just move into the other animal a horse is a pack animal not a princess
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Such important points. The business about approaching horses from the side or at an angle, rather than straight on -- that's pretty well understood at this point. But the recommendation not to step closer to the horse AND reach for him at the same time -- never heard that before and it makes so much sense. I love helpful hints like this, because the ideas are simple and easy to explain to people who aren't steeped in how horses perceive their environment and how they think. So much of how horses should be handled is not common sense and not intuitive.
I had a difficult to catch pony mare as my first horse I had to learn this on my own at age 8.
I find it is often intuitive or discernment with people and animals if we take even a little time to evaluate rather than just GO at 'em! But there's always some learning curve, getting to know the horse, dog or person, even a bit! That c
Ohhhh phones/computers....I seemed to have discernment about most animals, horses and dogs from childhood. I have called out a doberman crouching stalking my 2 Yorkies at my side! I spoke to the Dobie to STAY, picked up 1 Yorkie, them said GO HOME to the Dobie & it went home. I have other such accounts! I was never scared of horses, would go get on Lucy, full size horse by climbing on the fence at 6 & ride her across pasture to play with friends. At 9 in another place I found a horse in next pasture made a noose out of bailing twine, slipped it over his nose climbed in the fence trying to help another child up with me when mother found me 😂 LOL, the teens wouldn't ride him to get the cows up, they were afraid of him! There are more with dogs too! So much I never learned & wish I had when I was younger! Children and animals are so very special!!
Kindness goes a long way with spooky horses
Also true of approaching teenagers
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LOL 😂
👍👏👏🤣🤣 Good one mate !! That is feckin hilarious !! 👍😂❤️🇦🇺
I was a farrier for years and did all those things will horses to keep them calm. Great video!
Former stable hand. I worked with show horses so I was responsible for turn out, feed, and all the other barn chores. We had several horses that no one but me could catch. I'd stuff my pockets full of cookies and just do random stuff in the fields to get the horses curious enough that they come to me. Then I'd give everyone a cookie and throw the halter on the horse/horses I needed.
Wouldn't they become dependent on the cookies? I was told using feed/treats to catch horses is bad
@Woodsman the trick is to make it a social visit, not a "Come on. You have to do work" visit. So long as you aren't giving them handfuls of cookies every time, one or two isn't going to hurt them.
@@Creampuffization Ah okay thanks for the insight!
@@woodsman4946 no problem.
SMART…! I BET those horses LOVED YOU…!! ❤️❤️🥰😃👣
I just learned something very interesting. Body language is so powerful.
Making the horse at ease is a big factor.
Your so awesome love how you work with the families and teach them about their horses. You remind me of the dog whisperer.
He's the horse whisperer.
This is why my Dad would send little 9yo me to catch his saddle horse. Chief didn't like how much pressure Dad brought, but I would sidle up and he would let me catch him.
Little you were no threat.
This is the same for approaching dogs. Approach sideways and don’t stick your hand in their face, let them approach you, smell you, and interact with you on their own terms
This is pretty much the same for even approaching strangers. It’s interesting how we show each other courtesies and follow social cues, but don’t extend that to animals. Approach a person you don’t know head on and it’s a sign of aggression, but we don’t consider that when approaching animals.
Same with cats. Let them come to you. They are curious & ferrels are afraid. Let them adapt/adopt to your presence.
Same for my guineapig. If you approach her straight on, she will run out and try to bite your toes. She's free roamed in my bedroom and loves the taste of human flesh.
Oh my gosh that is so true!! One would never think about that! That has to be true for most all animals then. As in dogs I bet that makes a difference with them too! Such great advice.
one strange fact that I always remember is you can't pull a horse while facing them. They won't walk into you. You have to face away before they will follow you.
Exactly! And people make that mistake all the time when trying to get their horse to into a trailer.
Very good idea.
When I had a horse she was kept in the pasture. I cannot tell you how many times I played TAG with her. Once I touched her she was done. It was TOUCHING her that was the problem. She would see me coming for days. So many good memories. ❤️❤️
Great tips. 👍🏻
Be WITH them, not AT them
Beautiful…true for all living forms! Even plants.
if u think about it, that's kinda how a horse interacts with other horses too
Excellent advice!
I approach cats in the same way. 😊
People, even horse people occasionally, forget that no matter how big they are horses are prey animals. In their mind, everything is going to eat them until proven otherwise.
As a beginner, I always look down and approach slowly-- from my own uncertainty. Your way made the scales fall from my eyes. I used to loathe how men jutted their hands in my space for a hard-gripping handshake when we women first turned ourselves loose in the corporate stable of business in the early 1970s.
Remarkable juxtaposition Well done!
In business I always held my hand out first to the male with a firm handshake. Shows you are a professional, not intimidated and less pressure for me & them.
@@livelife418 When my military family lived in Orléans, France, the beautiful village where Jeanne d'Arc repelled the British, our adored French teacher was Mme LaPlace. / As for offering your hand first, in previous eras when mothers were home and taught their children proper comportment, it was the woman who decided whether or not to make contact. Alas, none of the little boys continued that courtesy in the corporations I joined.
@@melissastreeter22
I am 74 so we might be in different eras. Maybe I was fast on the draw, but it seemed men were not used to that and respected the confidence it showed. The key word is "seemed"
@@melissastreeter22
Thank you for mentioning your teacher in France. I believe living in foreign countries is the best education in the world. Military family? I imagibe you have some of the most exciting experiences life has to offer along with cultural shock most will never know.
Used to be a real pain to try to catch one of the ponies. But I found that if I pretend to just pick at the grass and wander around as I get closer to her she goes from “ah shit is the vet here?” to “what in the world are you so interested in?” Lol.
Horse sense. Yup
when I was working at my last barn there were two mares that you could not catch them no matter what you do. the only way is to go down to the herd and meander between the horses and make your way to them it is about keeping back to them and dropping the lead roap over their neck they were caught. you could halter them. BTW, the 2 mares were sisters.
spot on...
This works on all animals, I have found especially house pets.
Great lesson😊
It has been proven if a horse is skittish don’t make eye contact.. It helps both of you handle what needs to be done.
Great tips, thanks so much.
It's also how you LEAD a horse. Don't face them and pull...walk beside, give and take, give and take, they'll follow you. You're an awesome horseman!!!!
ahhh... Thank you for that hot tip!
I learned this as a kid, but I was taught that it’s a predator vs herd animal body language.
Specifically, that predators tend to appear facing the horse while fellow herd animals like cows or horses or goats will position themselves sideways, either facing the same direction or the opposite direction.
It works too, I’ve used that simple trick all my life whenever I’m around horses or deer or goats or whatever.
Fwiw, dogs seem to react to it too. Not exactly the same, but they definitely react to it.
Never fear horses....they can sense it. I've never been close to a horse, but I'm 100% sure I'd be amazing with them ✌️
Exactly
Great tips thanks.
Always remember never face your belly button towards a horse. Got it
even a foal will react to how you present yourself..
Imprinting.
very good advices 👍
Awesome! Thanks!!
VERY INTERESTING..TY
Cool info
Good to know! At 71 I won't be using the info- probably but good to know ...
I am 79 & if I can get on a horse, I will ride. Better on 4 feet than 2 & even in equine therapy where they had to load me o the horse, she tried me & I won! They are very smart(or most are), but we can, need to be smarter! Hehehe
I learned some of what your saying a few years ago. The stable where I had lessons had all kinds of animals, sheep, goats, alpacas, buffalos, mini horses, mini donkeys and a big donkey who was in charge. I always brought “thank you carrots and apples” for the horse I rode. Pretty soon everyone was getting a little something until the donkey stole my purse. Ehhhh. No you didn’t!
BODY LANGUAGE is the first thing that should be taught to ANYONE who wants to work with any of God's creatures.
this works for most animals, I've done it for years!
Great Advice Ryan
Thankyou & Happy 2023🎶💚⚡
Horses and dogs are superior at reading a person’s energy.
Cats too!
Goes for horses and many humans.
Omigosh! The scars on his hind quarters !!
thats mud, not scars.
That's how my dog approached a little girl after he noticed she is afraid of him, I swear.
As kids on the farm we would walk towards the horse with our hands cupped as if we have something for them to eat, it worked for us.
Smart man.
Retired trainer of forty years and I was always gobsmacked at the advice of the so called experts teaching to make eye contact on the approach. Oh please…😆
Thanks for this information. I'm working with a 4 y/o mare that came from the race track. Wanting to take her back to the race only this time she'll be the pony horse leading After Chad in
Never had to go to that extreme.
You are so SMART. RIGHT NOW IM BED MY HUSBAND IS SLEEPING, AND HE'S MY HORSE,,, YOUR WAY WORKS GREAT
IF I LOOK A HIM. IM SCARED IF I THOUCH HIM
I WILL WAKE HIM UP..
GOOD POINT..
Same for dogs , this approach is less challenging.
Makes sense 🤔
My horse approaches me from the side with his head turned the other way and his belly button pointing the other way. It makes me feel less pressure.
My horses don't care as long as I have a carrot on me!🤣🤣🤣
Sounds like my horses 🤣👍❤
He walks toward her, horse follows him over there..... they're friends.
Genius
It's drive and draw. Exactly how horses move each other. Invite the other horse into the herd (of one or more) or drive the other horse away. Sometimes driving another horse away from the herd (of one or more) is a punishment. Other times driving another horse just means hey I want to go over to the pond but not alone so you're going too. So often people see two horses leaving the barn or herd and they see one horse following another when really it is often one horse driving another. My lead mare in the pasture would never go anywhere away from herd alone. She always got another horse to go with her by driving it in the direction she wanted to go. If the driven horse made a motion to turn around she would block the move with subtle move with her own body. So fun to watch and learn from.
Approaching straight on and looking straight on an animal or some people it is or can be confrontational IMHO.
The other two are like, Hey joe im not fallin for that again. Yeah Sam hes givin away all his secrets✌️
This horse is so thin ,looks like his back is broken,GOD BLESS HIM💋💘🧡💜💞💛💕❤️💗💚💖💋
This horse looks young, like a gangly teenager. He also looks relaxed. Perhas he is a rescue that needs to put un a little more weight. Cant really see his ribs, so he is not that thin.
Do true!
Now I know how to do the approach and what I do wrong. I don't own a horse and have always wondered how to do the approach.
If I approach my colt the way you explain he is trying to be protective and try to nibble or kick me or my husband with front leg, even if I stroke him after I stepped on side ways to him just the way you said
I didn't know that I knew this. I used to catch a mustang mare by pretending that catching her wasn't all that important. Sometimes I'd sit down in the field & she would come to see what I was up to...
He is right . Horses are FLIGHT animals. Let them come to you . They will if they don't feel threatened.
💯
This technique works well with many different animals including birds and dogs
This goes for anyone, human or animal. We all know a predator is facing us. Standing sideways, it's harder for the predator.
I didn't know that.
Learn something new everyday... Never knew belly buttons were so threatening...
OR develop such a relationship with them you can approach them when they're lying down and they don't move. Stable Horse Training - Graeme is the best at this!
I work on a horse farm and you do not approach a horse from behind. Always approach a horse from the beginning looking right at it and walk slowly up to it. And if you want to feed it keep thumb away from it. Your hand must be with your thumb away from it.the apple in the palm of your hand .
sir i am horse rider from india and sir do you know about tend pegging on horse plez make a video on tend pegging
Tent. Pegging? Tent? With a T? ⛺️??
From the tradition of soldiers riding into the camp of their enemy and using their lances to remove the Tent pegs in order to collapse the officers tents...and cause mayhem and confusion??
@@AmazonEventer This answer will be interesting. Am writing a book about medieval mercenaries, surprised to discover this practice often happened at night when the enemy camp was sleeping. Now I learn it actually has a gerund--an action verb ending in "i-n-g."
Remember animal sensitivity is way more than any human.
trying to teach city folk
it's such a task
These guys get rich off of crazy horse women.
These guys earn a living teaching people, men and women, how to correctly deal with horses to avoid problems, or to get rid of problems. This keeps horses safe.
I wish people in grocery stores would understand this!
Big horse
It's all in Monty Roberts' BOOK - not the movie, which is not the same at all.
Yeah..yeah..😅
My horse didn't care
Catch them first, THEN give 'em a treat, take the halter off and wish them a good day. From the horses perspective....no work, no poorly fitted saddle, no pinching bit, no heavy hands from lousy riders.
This also works with dogs or cats. Really any animal.
It's easier to catch one with a bowl of sweet feed.
You fork hay in the front end and manure away from the backend then send a vet a large wad of cash. These were the only lessons I learned from my wife and daughters having horses...oh, and most people don't want to eat 'em
You too funny, but not foolish if you learned LOL
What they used to call "sideling"
Wow found a good lesson
darn I constantly get closer to horses, being frontally set and simultaneusly approaching with my hand up... some weird thinking convinces me that it will be easier on horses, because I will approach them faster... the hell? I need to work on my bad habits I suppose.
I'm just a nobody but I was a mounted cop. Try not to reach next and step to them at the same time.....
We prefer the term ' gathering' them in. Less aggressive
make sense
Yes l approach my chooks this way......
Yup sometimes approach on animals and people helps and where is this at?
donkeys show much more love.....
What causes sway back of a horse?
I think various things,--. Can be poor feed, riding a young horse too young with much weight & or too long and hard (I heard), probably being stabled & never getting to walk freely & run in pasture, especially as maturing, I believe. These people know more than me. I went to the dogs many years ago & cried so hard when my little App mare left me!
They don’t even look like they are being properly cared for. Poor horses.
I got it that's great approach a horse like a horse would approach another one they don't play games they just move into the other animal a horse is a pack animal not a princess