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For those who think he was mean for tapping that horse. Did you see her trying to double barrel kick him? That can easily kill a person. Horses can also bite a face off or break an arm & cause other serious damage. The lessons she learns while young can save her from a bad fate later on. Nice job Ryan.
Yes... one should always be on guard around horses. It is a little known fact that horses love feeding on human faces. They simply can’t get enough of them. One day, the bloodthirsty Millie will hear those pellets rattling & she’s gonna think to herself, “Millie, know what would go *GREAT* with those tasty pellets? *HER FACE* & then as a show of my strength I’ll roll in the blood. Heck, I bet they send another bucket rattler in here tomorrow & I can score another, fine & tasty face. Mmmmm mmmm, dems good eats. I better just knicker & whinny, play it real cool. Yep, just me, Millie, just doing horsey things. ~snort~. Nice, I can taste that face already!” 🐴 💭
@@kerryc horses bite. hard. and it hurts. it's not about eating. clearly, you've been around horses and would know that. horses can weigh 800-1200 pounds. I do not condone abuse of any animal but what he did was not abusive and your response only shows your ignorance of what it is like to deal with horses. I would rather tap a horse on the ass with a whip than have my face kicked in. horses may be herbivores but they can still kill a human easily.
@@spectrumwarrior9560 You take life *WAY* too seriously. I’m WELL aware of the damage that can be had from horses, sir/madam. While horse bites can be dangerous, you run a higher risk of bruising & contusions than you run the risk of “having your face eaten off by a horse.” The worst equine related injuries that run a higher risk of death are from kicks & throws. One of the worst horse related injuries I’d witnessed was someone that was thrown & then kicked by a spooked horse, which resulted in a broken neck, both legs having multiple compound fractures, one knee was hyperextended & uh... yeah; not a fun time for that poor soul. However, lecturing & spreading weird fears in comment sections isn’t helpful to people nor horses. The chances of having one’s face bitten/eaten off by a horse are a billion times less than your chances of being struck by lightning. Having respect of horses & awareness of the surroundings is something that will benefit others other than shock tales of woe, horror & vampiric, face eating horses. Lighten up & be more open to the comedy of life & by gum; keep your face away from Millie! I hear she’s hungry & the stable has a new job opening.
I'm very glad my horse is a rescue, sort of the opposite of these 'spoilt' horses who are used to having their way. Still, I've taught my horse to never show her back to me (actually kind of regretting that cos I want to brush her tail and she will spin around to face me). Safety for both you and the horse needs to be at the front and foremost. NEVER spoil a horse that doesn't deserve it and NEVER fail to correct a misbehavior. Give me one session in a round pen with a naughty horse and I'll have him or her straightened out, no problem
I don’t blame her for being a bit afraid.I had a horse that was food aggressive.The horse bit me in the face and almost tore my nose off.A few surgery later and It made me more aware of what they can do.
That is exactly why very clear and consistent rules are in place at feeding time. You must establish that there are boundaries and lines that may not be crossed. If they cross the line they may not eat. A good time to put out food is when they calmly step away from you and allow you to pour it into the bin. That's when you drop it. That is how you set the boundary.
I think it's notable how firm, but kind he was to the horse! He gave her a little boop on the nose when she wouldn't back off and when she was kicking, but otherwise was really respectful. He also stressed not making your horse afraid of you, which I really liked!
@@emsnewssupkis6453 what did YOU watch??? the horse kicks first and he respond right away with the same energy, if this had been done from day one, the horse would back off and be docile just with human prensence but since they let it slide it thinks its boss
@@emsnewssupkis6453 Late but it was a solid correction for the amount of aggression she showed. If said elderly woman had been the one there instead, it would have been worse than a bitten collarbone. If another horse was the victim Millie could have also been bitten herself and injured. And he stopped when she stopped.
I had a 100+ lb filly... l month old. She turned her but to me when I came in to feed mama... Then she started a pre- kick dance, butt going up, down and swishing her tail... I knew both feet were coming up next. I held my booted foot about 6 " from her rear and waited... then when it came, her butt hit my boot lol it was so funny. It was , wth just happened, did my butt hit the wall?!! Time to hide behind mama... she never tried it again and has great manners.. No, l did not boot her - she hit the boot when she tried to kick me. Did it to herself it was a Kodak moment ❤
@@ryanrosehorsemanship Ryan does it the old fashioned way, whacking horses and using punishments to get cooperation. There are much better ways to get animals to cooperate. I used to train all sorts of wild animals from skinks to bobcat kitties, Gila monster, alligator, cats, dogs, horses, etc. when I was only a child 60 years ago. Some of my 'pets' ended up at the Desert Museum and were used to entertain children showing how wild animals act and live.
Seems silly responding to a comment from 6 months ago but if you have seen more of Ryans videos youd hear him talking about the horses physcy and speaking to that rather than using old school methods like lunging and tiring the horse. But this specific horse problem was specific to feeding time and the stall where feeding occurs. Given the space and level of aggression "buck-you" attitude, he had to respond with the equal or more amount of energy. The horse will get over and learn lessons from those harmless taps. However the ederly barn helper and young jessica could seriously get injured.
Ryan is cool as a cucumber. Notice how his demeaner doesn't change as he corrects the horse. He doesn't get all amped up. Because it's not personal, it's just the way it is. Horse sees it the same way and respect is established.
If we could just do the same attitude with people - not get amped up - as it may not be personal...!!! We are actually more compassionate for animals than fellow humans whether with real or imagined offense are their slights against us. Why do we have more patience with animals than one another. Just saying.
It is ridiculously easy to teach a horse to be nice when feeding sweet mix! You literally tell the horse to 'step back' and if the horse tries to grab the sweet mix bucket, you GIVE IT TO ANOTHER ANIMAL. I used sheep or chickens for this. The horse gets to watch them eat the sweet mix. After two or three times doing this, the horse figures out to not go nuts for the mix but to step back and wait. It is hilarious fun and no hitting of the horse.
For example, Sparky was poked with a pitchfork to move him aside for feeding. I never did this. I made a game of feeding all the other animals instead of him. It took literally less than 24 hours for him to learn to not only step aside and wait but he never tried to kick me in the stall, ever. He trusted me to do things right and I could trust him to trust my instructions. Also, TALK to the horse! Tell the horse what you are doing. Do this in a deep voice. Make loud snorting sounds, too, like horses. They love this.
This is essential teaching, this means horses have a better chance to live happy healthy lives instead of being sold or put down for bad learned behavior. Love this! Thank you for demonstrating clearly.
I see a lot of comments saying that this girl isn’t very confident. I think the issue is that there’s a camera on her and she doesn’t really know this guy super well. She’s probably more confident alone.
The issue is she's listening to a halfwit and knows it. These tactics go against every bit of her natural horsemanship and it shows that in her body language.
I started riding as a very young child so I grew up with horses. When I was eight, I got kicked in the ribs by a food aggressive horse named "Food for Thought" (a barn horse I rode regularly but didn't own). The irony of that name is pretty amazing... Anyway, the rib healed in a V-shape which goes about 4 inches into my chest cavity and presses against my liver. It never stopped me from riding, I just learned a hard lesson to pay close attention to a horses body language and cues. Food aggression is a serious issue that deserves attention. Thanks for the educational content. Hoping it spares someone else the kind of injury I experienced.
Food aggression is easy to stop: DO NOT FEED AN AGGRESSIVE ANIMAL. The animal, no matter what kind, has to learn to cooperate when being fed. Even wild animals can learn this. You reward them for cooperating.
Watched this awhile back. Had a colt that was getting aggressive at feeding time and just very pushy. He is better now. Surgical loss of his nay nays couple weeks ago and he is improving greatly. I got to where I would not go in the pen without my flag. He’s learned to move and wait. Had to be consistent. What Ryan said worked.
Great lesson. I hate when people think food aggression is cute. I worked with this one spoiled horse where her owner thought it was cute and I had to spend so much time building up respect boundaries. She loved testing me because the longer they are like that the more they push. It translates to riding too. Cause if the can push you off food then pushing off the saddle is just a stones throw away 😂
Seems like it’s a matter of the horse learning that she can use aggression to “teach” humans to do what she wants. Glad to see you worked on boundaries both with and without food.
A lot of times, being aggressive with any animal that you're working with can have big negative effects. However, being the Alpha means being strict, and teaching through various ways of communication is exactly what Ryan does. Great job, and thank you for sharing these videos of your work!!
In all my 30 years rideing horses I am forever learning something new you made some really good points my Arabian would show food aggression but the the way you made those two horses respect your space was like magic as a rider we learn all the time it doesn't matter how long all what level rideing ability you have you still learn things all the time their ain't no such thing as the best rider I definitely learnt something new watching this today this is really good educational info
Jessica is still learning and I know how it feels to learn new things especially with horses so it will take time for her to get it right but Millie is also learning shes still young. Both are doing a great job and Ryan is a great teacher.
Jessica did the right thing to call Ryan in for help. She's growing in her knowledge and skills. Facing a horse that acts like that is truly scary. I'm sure with practice and continued support (Ryan, you are going to follow-up with her to make sure it's going right?) she will come out feeling strong about it.
I am a woman who trained both domestic and wild animals. Many girls dream of doing this but cannot be successful due to 'mothering' animals who then push these young ladies around or refuse to cooperate. It doesn't take a person who knows how to be Top Dog very long to get cooperation from horses. But most young ladies want the horses to love/assist them instead of being the Lead Stallion, themselves.
i've never owned a horse, i just happened upon this video...but it's incredible how well you can communicate with the horses ! &in a way that's healthy for not only the animal but the ppl caring for them
Now, I'm not a horse owner, I don't have a barn, so maybe I'm being shortsighted, but damn all those extension cords in a wooden building with hay everywhere would have my anxiety so high. On another note, I'm glad these folks take such good care of their animals and offer them the fans being powered by those cords. Awesome video too, i will be watching this channel a lot!
I think earn your trust in your animals and you shouldn't have to beat them with flags whips or any other thing you can find. Whether it be a horse dog cat bird rabbit rodent. Everything with teeth feet will always attack if under threat. Even a snake won't attack unless you corner it
One of my horses is not food aggressive but tends to get in my space when I'm pouring his mash into his feed tub. If he gets pushy, he gets my wooden spoon on the end of his nose and he backs off. We're still friends, no harm done, he just needs to be reminded to wait every once in a while. My other horse is a complete gentleman.
Literally, I call this the "oops, did I get in your way?" It teaches personal space because if you weren't so on top of me, you would have been out of range of my flailing item or limb. They don't see it as personal either lol
I have the exact same problem with a six year old Appaloosa mare. She isn't that way towards humans, however, she's painting her ears to the horses. This is next to her in her stall. She does not show this behavior out in the pasture when we put hay down for her. This is an awesome video, and I will definitely be utilizing this exercise until the behavior has been correct
To those of you crying about him smacking her with that stick... Go watch a horse claim it's space. Teeth, hooves, and hide are FLYING. A stick to the butt is nothing and can help a horse go from lethal to safe in a language they understand. If you can take the heat stay out of the pasture.
Exactly, give them a good slap on the back and they think twice to throw a fit as they now respect you. The same with leading, I often had to pinch their nose so they would stop and just think OK ok you're the leader
That is a young pushy mare that needs to be out with an older matriarch. Nothing beats a bigger heard with an older mare to put your youngsters in their place!
I think you needed cue words instead of rattling the feed bucket, which is a good incentive to come, if you want to catch a horse in a hurry. Instead, use "back off" when you want her to clear your space. Also, use a release word. Once she is in the corner, you deliver feed, go out, and say "ok" or any release word so she knows it's ok to eat. It was apparent that she was confused about when she could come out of the corner.
@@jeanedevries1 One really good thing about cue words though, is their use with the people working with the horse. Horse training can be helped by cue words not just for the horses sake but for the person handling the horse to symbolise/gain a habit of when enforcing or releasing an energy/behaviour to invoke certain reactions. Its a good way for ourselves to remember steps or what to look for in our horses reaction exactly within those seconds around the cue+body language use. If you get what I mean. ;)
It's said about dogs too, and while I don't completely disagree, a lot of people are unaware that there are a lot of other factors that can affect behavior- things like diet/gut issues, physical pain, diseases (esp thyroid disorders), and vaccine-induced behavioral changes (more common than ppl realise). Whenever there's a major behavioral problem, it just makes good sense to rule out each of these contributing factors as well. :)
Only horse I couldn't work with was one I could not read. His expression would be happy while acting aggressively. There was no warning when he would go at you. Had to end up giving him away. Latter I heard a horse in the town he went to bit someone's fingers off, always wondered if it was him.
@@margolenney6032 lol they were probably just making a connection too the movie because that didn’t happen in the book I believe idk I forgot I read them all though
I'm Apache and I take care of horses, but I've never sat on one. I love and respect them. One day I will get a clue from a special horse and I will ride. I know exactly what to do; I care for horses.
I just started watching this channel for fun! Ryan, you seem like an absolute expert with how you work with horses, very patient and gentle. My only interaction with horses was at a cousins house and the horse darted off and I fell off pretty hard but thankfully no broken bones. I'd like to interact with horses again, any thoughts about best way to start? Who knows, maybe I'll get a horse someday, they are so elegant and powerful! Thanks for sharing all your helpful tips, they're teaching me more about myself even though I don't own a horse!!!!
To those of you crying about him smacking her with that stick... Go watch a horse claim it's space. Teeth, hooves, and hide are FLYING. A stick to the butt is nothing and can help a horse go from lethal to safe in a language they understand. If you cant take the heat stay out of the pasture! I can walk out in the middle of my horses surrounded by feed and nobody moves a muscle until I'm gone. Knowing you don't tolerate foolery can save your life!! Numerous times my mare has been able to be a buffer between me and an escape stallion to be able to lead him back home. She never once squealed, kicked, or faltered in any way. I'm boss mare and I mean it. There is a zero tolerance for fighting when I'm around. They know this. They will always know this and I know I am always safe in their company.
You sound a little mean, you dont have to whip a horse to tell them you are the boss, you just have to make them move. They have to go where you want them to go, if they dont move, you make them move. Once they understand and do what you want, they get to stop moving and relax. Horses in the wild only move if they have to, (kinda lazy) but it saves energy in case they have to flee from a predator. THATS how you make yourself "lead mare".
@@cardinalfox4551 well guess what hunny? you have to hit a horse to make em move. Obviously not whipping the life out of them. And tbh you sound a little dumb.
@@carietrinityfamilyfarm8183 dont call me hunny, and no you DONT have to whip them to make them move. You wave the whip around BEHIND them. A whip is supposed to be used as an extended arm/hand, you dont smack a horses butt with your hand either if you forgot the whip. Tbh you sound like your talking to a little kid.
I observed food agression and thought I must do something about it. I taught my horses to go stand in the corner of the yard while I entered the yard with food and walked into the open stable, then the horse wasallowed to quietly follow me into the stable and wait for command 'ok' you can eat. This stopped the horse pushing, knocking me over. Some horses are sweet and gentle while some othes are not. It was easy to teach my horses this, they were taught to lead and lunge and walk forward on command (clicking noise made by mouth). I put a halter on the horse in the yard, asked the horse to move forward and when in the correct place, stop them and reward them with a pat and some carrot. Eventually I could do this when I was outside of the yard, all it took was patience, calmness and time. Teach a horse manners...what is allowed and what is not allowed. Anyway it worked for us. 20 years later I put one of our retired horses in the stable and at feed time he stood in the corner, I thought what the goodness is he doing? Oh, I taught him that.
This horse was trained to be aggressive for sure..NO criticizing Jessica but she didn't know she did this..and she did the right thing by bringing in a reputable person to help her..Congratulations Jessica
I really like that you're teaching using horse behavior cues to get that "Aha ok he is high horse I have to be respectful of space" and not using any words, and also teaching about inadvertent reinforcement of bad behavior.
Calm assertive behavior is what is needed for animals to understand boundaries and leadership. Be it a horse or dog, respect and understanding rules and boundaries is critical for all training. Inconsistent behavior leads to insecurity , which causes fight or flight.
My first horse was food aggressive, soooo I would just herd her out of the stall, put her food out, and let her back in. Soon she did it on her own. Worked for us-she was a Very smart girl. We grew up together..🐴🚂
When I was a brand new Equestrian I also had confidence issues. To this day I still work on my confidence and am always learning how powerful it is when you're in the same space as a horse! I have to stop looking at horses like dogs! And understand them for what they are, a horse!
@@the_horse_girl3710 anything he does is WAY LESS than a herd member would do "to teach them" If these behaviors dont get nipped in the butt now they will NEVER continue to build a relationship.
@@the_horse_girl3710 That's a way of showing Dominance he didn't smack it on the head like I've seen many trainers do, or kick the horse Though its your opion and I respect that
To be working with horses like that you have to have strong leadership personality, i can't see anybody else going after that horse like that guy. Amazing job, that's how you save horses from being slaughtered.
She should also get a cue when she is allowed to the food. Like you acted between 18'21" and 19'01" makes it very unclear to her when she can't and when she can : both times you where standing in the door, first time you chased her back and second time you kept the same posture but let her go.
@ 16:09 - whacks her in her rump & she was already walking away. WTF? This poor horse must be so confused. He is doing damage rather than helping. Wouldn't let him near a horse of mine.
I agree Inge. His whole training approach is passive aggressive. He is not consistent or on time when adding/ releasing pressure. No wonder the horse is upset & confused.
@@mdee860 I wouldn't say she was already walking away at 16:09. She was showing aggression as she was backing up to move. There's a difference in being respectful and moving and showing aggression. Also, maybe he didn't realize at the moment. It's easier to judge while watching a video then to actually be there. Were you the person standing right behind a kicker? No. Anyway. I agree with the cue word. That could've made things easier.
One of the horses where i rideis a little good aggressive. So what they did is they put like a clicker thing in his stall and when it's feeding time the horse had been trained to go to the back of his stall and when we push the clicker he goes to the food and starts eating
@@johanna8206 really? How bout showing your horse you are high horse and they won’t dare test you. On occasion they do, correction should be swift. How does a clicker stop him if you walk up, or another horse..he’s not aggressive?
@@keelsmac01 Yes, that's one way of approaching aggression, however, it has a lot of shortcomings and potential fall-out. The truth is that most, if not all, aggression is rooted in fear. Sometimes you can suppress a behavior through punishment (though worsening the aggression is also very likely), but the emotion behind the behavior remains, and will often crop up in a number of different ways like creating new behavioral issues, creating an animal that is fine around you but not others, or that may suddenly aggress out of the blue (unreliable/unpredictable aggression is especially dangerous), etc. I had a *major* change in opinion regarding this after working with dogs with severe aggression and other major behavioral issues and witnessing the differences in outcomes between the two different approaches. For instance, some behaviors we label as aggression are actually warning signals the animal gives in an attempt to *avoid* aggression (like a horse pinning their ears, swinging their head around to threaten a bite, or swinging their haunches towards us, or like a dog growling). Punishing the warning signal often results in the animal skipping the warning in the future and going straight to the bite/kick. This is why punishment often *increases* aggression. The only way to correctly punish the bad behavior is to allow it to happen first, which is kind of insanity. You'd have to wait for the horse to actually bite, or charge you down, and then punish immediatly. Instead, we can use a proactive approach and use the warning signals (or previous aggression) as information on what situations trigger the unwanted behavior, then structure training sessions to change the horse's emotional reactions to those situations (aka counter-conditioning), and teach them what you *want* them to do instead. The perfect example of this is the person who trained the horse to go to the back of the stall and wait for food- that's called a replacement behavior, and you can often eliminate most problem behaviors by teaching a replacement behavior that's incompatible with the unwanted behavior (i.e., the horse can't bite you from the back of the stall). So, to answer your question, I would 1) find out what triggers the behavior 2) manage the animal so they can't practice that behavior 3) construct a counter-conditioning plan and come up with an appropriate incompatible replacement behavior, and incorporate this into their daily routine. This is the basic premise behind behavioral modification training, and it's extremely effective, with the added bonus of not creating unwanted or secondary behavioral problems.
A two year old Morgan filly with food aggression kicked my daughter in the forehead & gave her a skull fracture. Got my friend to take the filly back & my daughter was fine. Now a veterinarian.
Love your work! This is really helping me out with my own ponies. We don't stall them, but I now know a better way to ask them to give me my space while I situate their food.
I think what could really help her be more assertive, is to see herself on tape and see truly how she appears in her physical motion. Is the having a bit of a girlish, careful, hip-dip to the side stance, or is she moving strong, shoulders square, chin up etc. I think to practise on that appearance will really help her improve on her body language :)
Best part of this is while he does pop the horse once or twice, he doesn't go whole hog. Just enough to get the horse to stop the behavior and pay attention without any hurt.
Good lord, I grew up in the old days when we kids were physically beaten in school. Now, children beat their teachers. The guy here beat the horse literally into submission. He should work in a city school instead. I would highly recommend this, in fact.
the barn i work at had a horse with food aggression. they taught him to face the back corner and once they got out he could turn around on command. the word is i think “okay” or “yes”! they’ve been doing it for years now and it has always worked !
I'm no equestrian expert, but I can see that you're as talented at working with humans as you are with horses. I've picked up *mad skills reading human beings* from your videos 😃 Alas, I'm not wealthy enough to develop a relationship with a horse, but opportunity arises, I'll be ready.
Jessica is NOT confident enough in her space to own it., I do think a que word for the horse to know..ok I’m allowed to eat could have been implemented. The horse did AMAZING... Jess didn’t seem as excited for the horses progression.. but I also feel like as dogs and kids... boundaries are ALWAYS good to have as they know when to expect to be corrected. Great Job Millo...
Great job Ryan! I am hooked on your videos! I just love how your energy and demeanor stay the same throughout all of your videos. A lot of people don't understand such simple yet very important things when owning and being around horses.. this is gold.
Always a challenge when a horse hits their version of the terrible twos! Well done Ryan and Jessica, enforcing standards of good behaviour keeps horse and owner safe.
God ✝️ Bless Jessica and her horse 🐴! Keep them Bonded ✝️ and Safe ✝️ Always. I think Jessica got Blessed ✝️ Greatly with such a brave, intelligent mare. Thank God ✝️ for great trainers and owners. God ✝️ Bless Keep Lead Protect Carry everyone.
Ryan I back in the day had a boarding facility of 25 stalls. Now what I am going to discuss is a horse that came to my facility and at feed time would turn a 360 ° circle and kick at each wall. This horse came from a rat infestation training facility. The rats would bit the horses hocks at feed time. This all took place the very 1st day at my place. So I took the horse out and looked at all his hocks. They all had open wounds from being rat bitten. He never got over that fear of being bitten by rats. I asked the owner to take his horse somewhere else. I told him he should find pasture boarding for him by himself. I thought that would go away if the horse was by itself. The owner took my advise. I never kept track to see if it worked. The poor horse was doing the only thing he could to scare the rats out of his stall. Thought I would share this.
Watch cowboy at 17:40 back out of the stall before he got trapped behind two back heels...That takes skill and learning "the hard way" Sure the mare shouldn't have gotten so pushy but its become such a dangerous situation even a tough cowboy listened to the little girl about the behavior to save his own hide. Great video.
It takes courage to go on youtube and be criticized, good job both of you. I don't know how old Jessica is but I would hope she will be taking a few more lessons from you to build her confidence, body language positions and most important, enforcing her commands. If Millie is involved that would be good but she seems a bit too smart and quick at learning and Jessica is rightfully afraid of her. The only way for Jessica to get better is by practicing her commands with body language skills on several different horses and becoming confident by receiving similar responses from different horses. I am much older now but I remember the first time I dealt with this particular horse behavior in the 1970's. Same behavior different horse...Jessica, You have to watch horses, learn how important timing is to these beautiful creatures and know that you are not going to hurt that horse with that stick, remember they communicate with 1000lb bodies, teeth and hooves. That stick, swinging the rope is what literally makes you bigger and is what will keep you safe if they get aggressive. Beautiful horse and mimic Mr. Rose's timing and movements 100%, watch the video over and over until you look and move like him around all horses. Mr. Rose let these girls correct their horses as much as possible, they have to learn how to do it.
I'm a yeah and no to that. It seems from where I am based on a vid only (whihc can be a bit dsdeceptive at times), that the young filly that seems to have had a few "wins" is not the horse for a young (compared to me approaching my 70's) inexperienced would be trainer to learn on the job. If I have to wear a helmut I certainly don't get on them and I don't put myself in the position where the horse can bail me up. For me Jessica would need to be present during the whole training process - which for this filly - hard to say but maybe a few months to a year.
I hauled race horses and show horses for 2 major carriers, the stories I have are incredible. Yearlings were always fun, stallions are always fun. I have been bit, kicked, stepped on and head butted. Loading a horse is an art, some guys muscled horses which was not my style.
Gut zu sehen, wie gut für alle und schnell sich so etwas lösen lässt. Allerdings ist es auch schlimm zu erkennen, wie wenig Menschen, die sich Pferde zulegen, verstehen mit ihnen umzugehen. Ich bin sehr dankbar, dass es Menschen wie Dich Ryan gibt, danke dir so viel🙏💕
Hey Ryan, it looks like your video has gone a bit viral, congrats on that. I was asked to check it out as a few of my own viewers have seen it and wondered a few things. I did end up watching from beginning to end, and while there are some good points made on understanding some horse behaviors and how to modify them, there were a few parts where you have likely taken this horse backwards and quite possibly even made it a more dangerous situation for the girl. I say this with some trepidation as I don't know what it looked like before and maybe just being able to get into that stall without getting beat up by the horse is the comparison, and in such a case she would be safer. So, in reality I don't know if it's safer, but I do know a few things that I thought I would pass on by just observing the video and giving what is essentially an objective set of facts that may be useful to you if you were to watch your own video back with a critical eye. 1. Very very likely this horse is hungry. I expect the feeding schedule is a 2 flakes on the floor a couple to three times a day. This will give a horse sustenance and allow them to live, but science has shown us that the horse's stomach works very different and in fact must have something in it just about at all times. I would encourage you to study on how the stomach works and why this horse likely has ulcers and the habits created are from survival and pain. Eating literally makes the pain go away. What would you do for something like that? 2. Part way into your technique of hitting to create aversion to the shaking, you turn around to talk to the girl and the horse continues with a pinned ear and fearful look. You literally trained the horse to expect to get hit every time you shook the bucket. Watch the horse closely each time. Sadly, you look very happy at this response near the end of this training of shake/hit. This type of classical training is very close to what race horses receive where a driver will have a bell or jingle some coins and then hit the horse to make them go faster. When they get on the race track they're not allowed to hit them as much as they do in practice so they jingle a bell. This gives the expectation of being hit. You can see this clearly in the response of the horse every time you shake the bucket (pure fear) and then every single time you approach. You have literally trained this horse to fear you and it's objectively visible in the horse. 3. As you trained you may notice you had to ramp up instead of ramping down. It never ended on anything other than fear in both you and the horse and the owner too sadly. Everybody is afraid. There were a few missed opportunities to pet her and tell her she is amazing, but none of them were taken. You could have provided reassurance and been a friend, but instead relied on aggression from yourself to "command her space". Now.... I get it, this is a very common approach in the horse world, but there are way better ways to get this done and I think the first is to address the horse having stomach problems due to lack of constant food. Food aggression doesn't happen in horses that aren't hungry or haven't experienced this issue of being starved (to a horse going a couple of hours without food is equivalent to starving as they don't think like we do nor does their biological process work the same) every single night or during the day when stuck in a 10x10 stall. Horse husbandry should be addressed. I agree with the idea to command space, I always make sure all my horses make room for me no matter the situation if it compromises my safety. This is very important when it comes to doctoring them and taking care of injuries etc. How you've done it though in this case has objectively shown to make the horse more fearful rather than comfortable with humans. Being both hungry and afraid is never a good combination with horses and some tools and techniques on how to get this horse happy that a human comes around would really go a long way I think. She was trapped as well and that can be very scary for horses which will quickly put them in defensive mode too. Sorry for the long book of a comment... I hope it's a little bit useful at least.
Strewth and I thought I could talk !!! Agree X however many points you have made. I'm on "all fours" behind you (before anyone gets antsy about that, I was told once by a lawyer it's a legal term for agree with all issues -and shame on any of you that thought otherwise.):)
This linked from the SHT video timing how long it takes for a horse to eat and i read all the way through the comment before i realised it was you Graeme! Agree with every word!!
I wholeheartedly agree with all you points. There should never be a need to hit a horse hard with a stick or anything else (a light tap, as well as talking to the horse, is sufficient), unless the horse is intentionally putting you in grave danger and/or attacking you...and never hit them on their nose/face The gentler approach may take a bit longer to achieve the same goal, but instead of fearful/angry horse, you will have a horse who respects you, enjoys being your companion & will want to do as you request so that it can please you. It also bothered me that he didn't praise, or pet, the horse 'Millie' throughout the training. It's also true about the food/hay portions (or lack of) available to the horse. There are many more compassionate ways to accomplish the goal. Thank you for your reply to Ryan's video, as I'm sure it will serve to enlighten others, as well.
I love this idea as I've had to feed quite a few foo aggressive horses as a groom. The only problem that I might see is getting the horse to back up/"fear" the sound of grain as horses are often escaping an we use grain to bring them in.
I Know some people that get “hangry” When they are craving and want to eat too. I don’t see any reason what so ever to not spoil a horse as you would your kids or dogs! So what, give them extra treats or extra sweet feed when they are asking for it’! It would tick me off too if somebody played around and teased me with food. People are too harsh with their horses, lighten up. My horses are extremely friendly and respectful of us and we spoil them With extra treats and sweet feed ALL THE TIME! I know what they want and I give it to them! They are healthy and extremely happy horses!
One horse that came to me was very food aggressive. The owner told me to take him out the stable, put his feed in the manger and return him. Beggar that! I had twenty plus horses to feed and if I had to do that with them all I’d be feeding lol day. This horse's manger was at the back of the stable. I fed him and his butt was blocking the door. As I walked towards the door so he swung towards me lifting his leg to kick me. I held the empty bucket so he kicked that. It flew up in the air, hit the wall, bounced and hit him on top of his head. He shot around the stable and I kept kicking the bucket between his legs for about three circuits. He was exceedingly respectful of me after that, moving back when I placed his feed and moving his butt away from the door. Owner couldn’t believe it when she saw him feeding.
It took courage for Jessica to ask for help and be willing to learn. Her mare is a bully who is taking advantage of her good nature and inexperience. I wish them both the best and hope they make a good team for many years. ☀️
I don't think the horse is a bully...she is 2 and still learning boundaries, completely normal. It is important for anyone that comes in contact with a 2 year old horse to be consistent and firm.
Agree with all the best to Jessica - but don't consider from here the filly is a bully - my take on her is she is young a classic flight responder, impressionable and needs experienced guidance.
@@calgal7828 No No not at all far from it. I'm just getting physically sick of typing the word "Agree"!! Incidentally I wonder if old mate Ryan is lying back LOL at all this and counting the benefits of a nice little Yuotube vid gone a little viral? Ryan - are you ??
And not confident is a recipe for disaster - as a general observation Jessica nothing personal. It you were one of my kids I woudn't let you near this horse to learn on.
I understand what you mean, but I disagree. The whole training was about claiming space. The horse got it. When the human leaves, the horse can come to eat. He kept standing there, so she had to wait in her corner. Later on, you could add a keyword for the horse to come and eat, but this early into the training it would be too confusing. At least that's my opinion ^^
It's a pet peeve of mine, when owners think giving horses a smack sometimes is cruel. It creates pushy rude horses with no respect and that ruins a potentually great horse. I just think, what would the lead horse in a head do if she did that? They would give her a good bite or kick to set her straight. I have a horse that never needs a smack. He is so good and sweet, if I smacked him it would break his little heart and he wouldn't speak to me for weeks. All I have to do to correct him is say "Ah ah!" But I also have a cheeky mare who on occassion has needed a smack on the chest when she gets pushy and kicky. She's so confident, she gets over it in minutes and shows respect again (we always make friends again). She knows I care for her and I'm the leader.
It really depends on the horse. We had gelding that I could punch with all my force and he'd be back in 2 seconds, ready to continue the game (when his "hormones" kicked in, he got really dangerous, hunting other geldings, trying to separate me from my mare on the meadow, once pulling on the neck part of my hoodie pullover and thereby choking me, when I turned my back on him). My own mare sometimes "takes a hit" for good measure. She knows that she is breaking the rules, she does it anyway and accepts the punishment as consequence. But if she does not know why she is punished, she freaks out (it mostly happens when I make a movement she interprets as me going to hit her - and often she is wrong. Or when she bumps her head into things because she gets too happy over a head rub). We have another mare that I can't punish at all, though she is cheeky. But she is kind of cheeky and really scared at the same time? Like she bit me in the neck while petting her head once (and in the jacket another time), but if I get too loud or move too fast, I can't approach her, because she will run scared.
I don't aggree with you. The use of aggression for horses training is just a traditional way of training but nowadays there are some more positive and effective training methods... It is all about understand animal behavior, theory on reinforcement and know how to apply all of this. Of course you need to "study" a bit about all this before in order to get good results. I always think that yeah horses bite to each other and all of that, but I am not a horse, I am not as strong as a horse but I have intelligence and I should use that, make the efford to understand them and find ways to let them know what I want without the need to bite or kick like a horse 😆. Positive training (so no smack) is use to even train elephants, tigers and bears in zoos and its working out great, so why not with horses?
@@tursiopss Anthropomorphism does not help animals. Thinking like a human when handling horses could get someone hurt and it just confuses the horse. I have 40 year experence owning horses. Do you own horses? There's a big difference between aggression and discipline. I have eight horse two of them are best friends and total opposites. Cobalt (gelding) is sweet and gentle and kind. Willow (mare) is cheeky, fun and a little rascal. She can gets very bolshie with people and my boy around feed time. Even though they a best friends. I nip it in the bud by waving a training whip at her and she soon knows to back off. This is what a horse would do with an ear pin or worse, with a kick or a bit. Far worst that a little palm smack. Now if I waved the whip at my boy. He would be so upset with me, he wouldnt talk to me for days, he is so soft. I just say "ah, ah" to stop him doing something he shouldn't. Differet horses need different levels of disapline. You can't pigeon hole them all the same. You say people are not as strong as a horse. All the more reason to correct disrespectful or dangerous behavour. People who don't disapline their horses are putting themselves and other people in danger. Horses don't need hugs and kisses, they need a leader they respect and feel safe with. Discipline doesn't mean I don't love my horses with all my heart. It means I want my family to be safe around them and for my horses to be safe around each other.
@@blauespony1013 Oh wow, he sound like a stallion. Maybe a bit riggy. I talk about two of mine in the comment below. i have one I could never smack, it would hurt his soft feelings too much. Then I have one that needs a smack on the chest or a whip just waved at her. She would be food aggressive in the wrong hands. But we keep it nipped in the bud.
@@twilightingX Maybe I didn't explain it right. It is not about anthropomorphism, I am not giving the horse any human characteristic! I don't own a horse but I have work with horses along with other animals always using positive reinforcement when training and it has work out pretty good so far. What you are saying about how your horses react to a whip or your voice is just happening because you introduced those stimulus on a negative way in some moment of their life, that is just the traditional way we have use to train horses and also used for dogs in the past (not recomended anymore), issue with this methods is that we ussually react when the animal does a wrong behavior but don't react that much when the horse does the right thing because people just don't know how to reinforce a horse, they think saying "good boy/girl" is going to be enought like if horses could understand your verbal language out of nowhere (not saying you do but many horses owner I have seen just use that as reinforcer)... the guy on the video is actually reinforcing the horse a few times when it does right but he could have avoid those aggresive moments by training an alternative behavior without the need to slamp the horse with the whip such as: "train a target, introduce target when the person goes to the stable to give food, give a better reinforcer than that food when the horse is on the target so she will see that she get better things out of stay there with the target than being aggresive to the person... over time aggresive behavior will start to go down and horse will learn to stay in that specific point when food is given", that is just an small example. Positive training is about ignore the bad behavior but reinforce a lot the good one, of course this has to be done right from the beggining to avoid aggresive horses but a horse with aggresive behaviors can come out from all types of training methods if they are done wrong... I have seen lions that stay quite like nothing is happeing while they are getting blood samples juts because they have been train on a positive methods, just to tell about how incredible things animals can do if they are teach on a positive way. Horses don't need hug and kisses, I know hahha but I am not saying that :) reinforcement can be a small piece of a food they love, social introduction or something as simple as release pressure. You just need to know each individual to see what can be more reinforcer at every point, no need to be a leader by slamping them!
Hey Ryan. Do you follow up on these lessons/stories? I showed your video to my 87 y/o Dad and he wanted to know if the girl continued working with her horse ☺️
@@ryanrosehorsemanship "yeah, you heard they're doing well" I'm sorry but that does not sound like a follow-up. You know hearing and seeing are two different things. I'd have to see how "well" that situation is going LoL ❤️🐴
Always interesting to see how we females have to be really conscience of having to change our normal stance to present big and strong. Shoulders BACK, CHEST OUT, and standing TALL are not how we normally go thru life. But we can ♥️👍♥️
Always throw my mind when I see horses for sale and many saying the following: aggressive in the box etc etc.... people really should learn horsy behaviour instead dream riding their pony. So many of them were taught bad behaviour.
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For those who think he was mean for tapping that horse. Did you see her trying to double barrel kick him? That can easily kill a person. Horses can also bite a face off or break an arm & cause other serious damage. The lessons she learns while young can save her from a bad fate later on. Nice job Ryan.
Yes... one should always be on guard around horses. It is a little known fact that horses love feeding on human faces. They simply can’t get enough of them. One day, the bloodthirsty Millie will hear those pellets rattling & she’s gonna think to herself, “Millie, know what would go *GREAT* with those tasty pellets? *HER FACE* & then as a show of my strength I’ll roll in the blood. Heck, I bet they send another bucket rattler in here tomorrow & I can score another, fine & tasty face. Mmmmm mmmm, dems good eats. I better just knicker & whinny, play it real cool. Yep, just me, Millie, just doing horsey things. ~snort~. Nice, I can taste that face already!” 🐴 💭
@@kerryc What the hell...
@@kerryc horses bite. hard. and it hurts. it's not about eating. clearly, you've been around horses and would know that. horses can weigh 800-1200 pounds. I do not condone abuse of any animal but what he did was not abusive and your response only shows your ignorance of what it is like to deal with horses. I would rather tap a horse on the ass with a whip than have my face kicked in. horses may be herbivores but they can still kill a human easily.
@@spectrumwarrior9560 You take life *WAY* too seriously. I’m WELL aware of the damage that can be had from horses, sir/madam. While horse bites can be dangerous, you run a higher risk of bruising & contusions than you run the risk of “having your face eaten off by a horse.” The worst equine related injuries that run a higher risk of death are from kicks & throws. One of the worst horse related injuries I’d witnessed was someone that was thrown & then kicked by a spooked horse, which resulted in a broken neck, both legs having multiple compound fractures, one knee was hyperextended & uh... yeah; not a fun time for that poor soul. However, lecturing & spreading weird fears in comment sections isn’t helpful to people nor horses. The chances of having one’s face bitten/eaten off by a horse are a billion times less than your chances of being struck by lightning. Having respect of horses & awareness of the surroundings is something that will benefit others other than shock tales of woe, horror & vampiric, face eating horses. Lighten up & be more open to the comedy of life & by gum; keep your face away from Millie! I hear she’s hungry & the stable has a new job opening.
You much respect their size and power. But more than that approach and behave with confidence around them.
This is a smart mare who’s just gotten her way for far too long, good that they caught it early
I'm very glad my horse is a rescue, sort of the opposite of these 'spoilt' horses who are used to having their way. Still, I've taught my horse to never show her back to me (actually kind of regretting that cos I want to brush her tail and she will spin around to face me). Safety for both you and the horse needs to be at the front and foremost. NEVER spoil a horse that doesn't deserve it and NEVER fail to correct a misbehavior. Give me one session in a round pen with a naughty horse and I'll have him or her straightened out, no problem
Now you see how God has to deal with us as sinners ;)
I don’t blame her for being a bit afraid.I had a horse that was food aggressive.The horse bit me in the face and almost tore my nose off.A few surgery later and It made me more aware of what they can do.
woah, sorry you experienced that Debra
Damn deb hope ur better now!
Wow
That is exactly why very clear and consistent rules are in place at feeding time. You must establish that there are boundaries and lines that may not be crossed. If they cross the line they may not eat. A good time to put out food is when they calmly step away from you and allow you to pour it into the bin. That's when you drop it. That is how you set the boundary.
I knew a lady that had a horse that bit off her ear lobe because he was food aggressive
I think it's notable how firm, but kind he was to the horse! He gave her a little boop on the nose when she wouldn't back off and when she was kicking, but otherwise was really respectful. He also stressed not making your horse afraid of you, which I really liked!
Thanks for noticing 👍
What did you watch??? He whacked the horse hard, repeatedly and she kicked.
@@emsnewssupkis6453 what did YOU watch??? the horse kicks first and he respond right away with the same energy, if this had been done from day one, the horse would back off and be docile just with human prensence but since they let it slide it thinks its boss
@@emsnewssupkis6453if you think that was hard you haven’t seen how horses choose to correct each other.
@@emsnewssupkis6453 Late but it was a solid correction for the amount of aggression she showed. If said elderly woman had been the one there instead, it would have been worse than a bitten collarbone. If another horse was the victim Millie could have also been bitten herself and injured. And he stopped when she stopped.
You aint seen food aggression until you've seen me weaning me off of chocolate ice-cream.
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I did not know weaning off ice cream was real...I thought this was a "scare" for adults 🤣
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“…a little ‘Buck-You’ there”. Priceless!!!!
Hello beautiful lady,how are you doing and your family,how is the weather condition over there?
@@nelsonwesson9644 u r creepy
Totally!! "Buck you" ... made me chuckle.
I had a 100+ lb filly... l month old. She turned her but to me when I came in to feed mama...
Then she started a pre- kick dance, butt going up, down and swishing her tail... I knew both feet were coming up next.
I held my booted foot about 6 " from her rear and waited... then when it came, her butt hit my boot lol it was so funny. It was , wth just happened, did my butt hit the wall?!! Time to hide behind mama... she never tried it again and has great manners..
No, l did not boot her - she hit the boot when she tried to kick me. Did it to herself it was a Kodak moment ❤
As someone who knows nothing about horses this was fascinating. Ryan seems so patient and knowledgeable. Well done to him and Jessica both.
Thanks!
@@robbieoconnor9132 small taps won’t do nothing to that beast. But a double kick will, it can kill him and especially Jessica.
@@robbieoconnor9132 how?
@@ryanrosehorsemanship Ryan does it the old fashioned way, whacking horses and using punishments to get cooperation. There are much better ways to get animals to cooperate. I used to train all sorts of wild animals from skinks to bobcat kitties, Gila monster, alligator, cats, dogs, horses, etc. when I was only a child 60 years ago. Some of my 'pets' ended up at the Desert Museum and were used to entertain children showing how wild animals act and live.
Seems silly responding to a comment from 6 months ago but if you have seen more of Ryans videos youd hear him talking about the horses physcy and speaking to that rather than using old school methods like lunging and tiring the horse. But this specific horse problem was specific to feeding time and the stall where feeding occurs. Given the space and level of aggression "buck-you" attitude, he had to respond with the equal or more amount of energy. The horse will get over and learn lessons from those harmless taps. However the ederly barn helper and young jessica could seriously get injured.
A shout out to Jessica and other horse owners for sharing their experiences with us. It's a big help.
Ryan is cool as a cucumber. Notice how his demeaner doesn't change as he corrects the horse. He doesn't get all amped up. Because it's not personal, it's just the way it is. Horse sees it the same way and respect is established.
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If we could just do the same attitude with people - not get amped up - as it may not be personal...!!! We are actually more compassionate for animals than fellow humans whether with real or imagined offense are their slights against us. Why do we have more patience with animals than one another. Just saying.
Yup
It is ridiculously easy to teach a horse to be nice when feeding sweet mix! You literally tell the horse to 'step back' and if the horse tries to grab the sweet mix bucket, you GIVE IT TO ANOTHER ANIMAL. I used sheep or chickens for this. The horse gets to watch them eat the sweet mix. After two or three times doing this, the horse figures out to not go nuts for the mix but to step back and wait. It is hilarious fun and no hitting of the horse.
For example, Sparky was poked with a pitchfork to move him aside for feeding. I never did this. I made a game of feeding all the other animals instead of him. It took literally less than 24 hours for him to learn to not only step aside and wait but he never tried to kick me in the stall, ever. He trusted me to do things right and I could trust him to trust my instructions. Also, TALK to the horse! Tell the horse what you are doing. Do this in a deep voice. Make loud snorting sounds, too, like horses. They love this.
This is essential teaching, this means horses have a better chance to live happy healthy lives instead of being sold or put down for bad learned behavior. Love this! Thank you for demonstrating clearly.
I see a lot of comments saying that this girl isn’t very confident. I think the issue is that there’s a camera on her and she doesn’t really know this guy super well. She’s probably more confident alone.
I agree
Same plus if youre horse was like that would have to get a trainer to train yoire dan horse and he has to slap them whit a stick
@@jeannegevaert2144 *your
The issue is she's listening to a halfwit and knows it. These tactics go against every bit of her natural horsemanship and it shows that in her body language.
@@greenmanejuice5424 Her 'natural horsemanship' landed her with a food aggressive mare...
I started riding as a very young child so I grew up with horses. When I was eight, I got kicked in the ribs by a food aggressive horse named "Food for Thought" (a barn horse I rode regularly but didn't own). The irony of that name is pretty amazing... Anyway, the rib healed in a V-shape which goes about 4 inches into my chest cavity and presses against my liver. It never stopped me from riding, I just learned a hard lesson to pay close attention to a horses body language and cues. Food aggression is a serious issue that deserves attention. Thanks for the educational content. Hoping it spares someone else the kind of injury I experienced.
Food aggression is easy to stop: DO NOT FEED AN AGGRESSIVE ANIMAL. The animal, no matter what kind, has to learn to cooperate when being fed. Even wild animals can learn this. You reward them for cooperating.
If a horse did that to me its name would become "food for dogs".
You're very brave for getting back on horses again. That kind of injury can traumatise someone for life. Then again us horse people are a special lot
Watched this awhile back. Had a colt that was getting aggressive at feeding time and just very pushy. He is better now. Surgical loss of his nay nays couple weeks ago and he is improving greatly. I got to where I would not go in the pen without my flag. He’s learned to move and wait. Had to be consistent.
What Ryan said worked.
Glad to hear that 👍
Great lesson. I hate when people think food aggression is cute. I worked with this one spoiled horse where her owner thought it was cute and I had to spend so much time building up respect boundaries. She loved testing me because the longer they are like that the more they push. It translates to riding too. Cause if the can push you off food then pushing off the saddle is just a stones throw away 😂
Seems like it’s a matter of the horse learning that she can use aggression to “teach” humans to do what she wants. Glad to see you worked on boundaries both with and without food.
A lot of times, being aggressive with any animal that you're working with can have big negative effects. However, being the Alpha means being strict, and teaching through various ways of communication is exactly what Ryan does. Great job, and thank you for sharing these videos of your work!!
Jessica: Talking about her badly behaved mare...
Horse behind her: Drops his dangly boy bits to make sure we know she's not talking about him!
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🤣 exactly. I was a little surprised, as I THOUGHT that was “Millie”! Boy, was I wrong.
Me too!!! We were clearly wrong! 🤣
He's not Millie, he's just "hanging out".
The whole time she was talking I was like, “aw how cute is Millie snuggling up against her...wait that’s not a mare” 😂
In all my 30 years rideing horses I am forever learning something new you made some really good points my Arabian would show food aggression but the the way you made those two horses respect your space was like magic as a rider we learn all the time it doesn't matter how long all what level rideing ability you have you still learn things all the time their ain't no such thing as the best rider I definitely learnt something new watching this today this is really good educational info
I love Arabians.
"The more I know, the more I know I don't know". This post helped me, too!
Jessica is still learning and I know how it feels to learn new things especially with horses so it will take time for her to get it right but Millie is also learning shes still young. Both are doing a great job and Ryan is a great teacher.
The channel should have a million subscribers! Excellent content!
Jessica did the right thing to call Ryan in for help. She's growing in her knowledge and skills. Facing a horse that acts like that is truly scary. I'm sure with practice and continued support (Ryan, you are going to follow-up with her to make sure it's going right?) she will come out feeling strong about it.
I am a woman who trained both domestic and wild animals. Many girls dream of doing this but cannot be successful due to 'mothering' animals who then push these young ladies around or refuse to cooperate. It doesn't take a person who knows how to be Top Dog very long to get cooperation from horses. But most young ladies want the horses to love/assist them instead of being the Lead Stallion, themselves.
Young lady you got this!!! Walk with purpose and confidence!
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I know nothing about horses . . . but that was darn interesting. Thanks
Its contagious 😂🖤
Same.
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i've never owned a horse, i just happened upon this video...but it's incredible how well you can communicate with the horses ! &in a way that's healthy for not only the animal but the ppl caring for them
Yes, he beat the horse until it retreated into a corner. Yup. Not all that smart but it does work. There are easier ways to teach an animal.
Now, I'm not a horse owner, I don't have a barn, so maybe I'm being shortsighted, but damn all those extension cords in a wooden building with hay everywhere would have my anxiety so high. On another note, I'm glad these folks take such good care of their animals and offer them the fans being powered by those cords. Awesome video too, i will be watching this channel a lot!
The wiring of the stables was very unstable and in many places, illegal. Barn fires are all too common.
Every year horses die in barn fires because of those fans.
I think earn your trust in your animals and you shouldn't have to beat them with flags whips or any other thing you can find. Whether it be a horse dog cat bird rabbit rodent. Everything with teeth feet will always attack if under threat. Even a snake won't attack unless you corner it
@@narelleguthrie542 You obviously never trained horses.
@@narelleguthrie542 how many prescription drugs are you prescribed? You should cut back.
10:30 I entered the video and randomly clicked on that bit and thought the guy was blind. I was real impressed.
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Sometimes it's about teaching the owners lol
Most of the time.
@@windmillstables1 absolutely
Literally
Always..
So true tho! 😊
One of my horses is not food aggressive but tends to get in my space when I'm pouring his mash into his feed tub. If he gets pushy, he gets my wooden spoon on the end of his nose and he backs off. We're still friends, no harm done, he just needs to be reminded to wait every once in a while. My other horse is a complete gentleman.
Literally, I call this the "oops, did I get in your way?" It teaches personal space because if you weren't so on top of me, you would have been out of range of my flailing item or limb. They don't see it as personal either lol
Just push his nose or try to back him up
I have the exact same problem with a six year old Appaloosa mare. She isn't that way towards humans, however, she's painting her ears to the horses. This is next to her in her stall. She does not show this behavior out in the pasture when we put hay down for her. This is an awesome video, and I will definitely be utilizing this exercise until the behavior has been correct
That's so cool. I don't know anything about horses but I stumbled apon this and watched the whole thing.
To those of you crying about him smacking her with that stick... Go watch a horse claim it's space. Teeth, hooves, and hide are FLYING. A stick to the butt is nothing and can help a horse go from lethal to safe in a language they understand. If you can take the heat stay out of the pasture.
Exactly, give them a good slap on the back and they think twice to throw a fit as they now respect you.
The same with leading, I often had to pinch their nose so they would stop and just think OK ok you're the leader
@@TheOcculticUnicorn go pinch you kid then horses have thin skin
@@dontknowwhattoputhere2011 What?
@NonsenTional ಠ_ಠ I don't pinch them hard, I only grab their loose skin.
@NonsenTional ಠ_ಠ No problem. It is the same as when you grab your lip, that's about as sensitive as a horse's nose.
Very informative video. Not only do the horses need training but so do the owners. Makes ranch life a lot easier in the long run.
Clear, concise, OUTSTANDING instruction! I think you not only helped instill confidence in the horse but also that young lady.
Thanks!
That is a young pushy mare that needs to be out with an older matriarch. Nothing beats a bigger heard with an older mare to put your youngsters in their place!
Most often it’s about training the humans. Thank you for what you do.
I’ve been with horses for 58 years. Horses are amazing!
Definitely, thanks!
i disagree
@@dariaharruff7025 You are wrong, 99% of the time when I work with problem horses the problem went directly to the owner or some previous owner.
@@radamson1 it's not a horse problem it's people problem js
@@dariaharruff7025 Right!
I think you needed cue words instead of rattling the feed bucket, which is a good incentive to come, if you want to catch a horse in a hurry. Instead, use "back off" when you want her to clear your space. Also, use a release word. Once she is in the corner, you deliver feed, go out, and say "ok" or any release word so she knows it's ok to eat. It was apparent that she was confused about when she could come out of the corner.
I agree.
Horses don't use words, they use energy and body language to communicate. Energy up, energy down tells them what they need to know.
@@jeanedevries1 One really good thing about cue words though, is their use with the people working with the horse. Horse training can be helped by cue words not just for the horses sake but for the person handling the horse to symbolise/gain a habit of when enforcing or releasing an energy/behaviour to invoke certain reactions. Its a good way for ourselves to remember steps or what to look for in our horses reaction exactly within those seconds around the cue+body language use. If you get what I mean. ;)
Correct. I always said, 'back off' to the horses and cows! It works. Doesn't work on sheep, though. They just baaa at you.
I agree strongly
“There are no problem horses, only problem riders/owners” - My aunts favorite quote.
Not a hate comment!!! I really respected and liked the video.
Thats not accurate, it should be, there are problem horses and problem owners, but its always problem starts with owners.
It's said about dogs too, and while I don't completely disagree, a lot of people are unaware that there are a lot of other factors that can affect behavior- things like diet/gut issues, physical pain, diseases (esp thyroid disorders), and vaccine-induced behavioral changes (more common than ppl realise). Whenever there's a major behavioral problem, it just makes good sense to rule out each of these contributing factors as well. :)
My favorite too!
Only horse I couldn't work with was one I could not read. His expression would be happy while acting aggressively. There was no warning when he would go at you. Had to end up giving him away. Latter I heard a horse in the town he went to bit someone's fingers off, always wondered if it was him.
That shacking with the bucket reminded me of the scene in harry potter where they ring bells so the white dragon in gringottsbank will back off.
You really haven’t read the book have you!
@@margolenney6032 lol they were probably just making a connection too the movie because that didn’t happen in the book I believe idk I forgot I read them all though
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I'm Apache and I take care of horses, but I've never sat on one. I love and respect them. One day I will get a clue from a special horse and I will ride. I know exactly what to do; I care for horses.
I just started watching this channel for fun! Ryan, you seem like an absolute expert with how you work with horses, very patient and gentle. My only interaction with horses was at a cousins house and the horse darted off and I fell off pretty hard but thankfully no broken bones. I'd like to interact with horses again, any thoughts about best way to start? Who knows, maybe I'll get a horse someday, they are so elegant and powerful! Thanks for sharing all your helpful tips, they're teaching me more about myself even though I don't own a horse!!!!
To those of you crying about him smacking her with that stick... Go watch a horse claim it's space. Teeth, hooves, and hide are FLYING. A stick to the butt is nothing and can help a horse go from lethal to safe in a language they understand. If you cant take the heat stay out of the pasture! I can walk out in the middle of my horses surrounded by feed and nobody moves a muscle until I'm gone. Knowing you don't tolerate foolery can save your life!! Numerous times my mare has been able to be a buffer between me and an escape stallion to be able to lead him back home. She never once squealed, kicked, or faltered in any way. I'm boss mare and I mean it. There is a zero tolerance for fighting when I'm around. They know this. They will always know this and I know I am always safe in their company.
So you’re a mare? What
@@fer572 😂 it's a saying in the horse community
You sound a little mean, you dont have to whip a horse to tell them you are the boss, you just have to make them move. They have to go where you want them to go, if they dont move, you make them move. Once they understand and do what you want, they get to stop moving and relax. Horses in the wild only move if they have to, (kinda lazy) but it saves energy in case they have to flee from a predator. THATS how you make yourself "lead mare".
@@cardinalfox4551 well guess what hunny? you have to hit a horse to make em move. Obviously not whipping the life out of them.
And tbh you sound a little dumb.
@@carietrinityfamilyfarm8183 dont call me hunny, and no you DONT have to whip them to make them move. You wave the whip around BEHIND them. A whip is supposed to be used as an extended arm/hand, you dont smack a horses butt with your hand either if you forgot the whip.
Tbh you sound like your talking to a little kid.
"You picking up what im putting down?!" Awesome AF
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I observed food agression and thought I must do something about it. I taught my horses to go stand in the corner of the yard while I entered the yard with food and walked into the open stable, then the horse wasallowed to quietly follow me into the stable and wait for command 'ok' you can eat. This stopped the horse pushing, knocking me over. Some horses are sweet and gentle while some othes are not.
It was easy to teach my horses this, they were taught to lead and lunge and walk forward on command (clicking noise made by mouth). I put a halter on the horse in the yard, asked the horse to move forward and when in the correct place, stop them and reward them with a pat and some carrot. Eventually I could do this when I was outside of the yard, all it took was patience, calmness and time. Teach a horse manners...what is allowed and what is not allowed. Anyway it worked for us. 20 years later I put one of our retired horses in the stable and at feed time he stood in the corner, I thought what the goodness is he doing? Oh, I taught him that.
This horse was trained to be aggressive for sure..NO criticizing Jessica but she didn't know she did this..and she did the right thing by bringing in a reputable person to help her..Congratulations Jessica
I really like that you're teaching using horse behavior cues to get that "Aha ok he is high horse I have to be respectful of space" and not using any words, and also teaching about inadvertent reinforcement of bad behavior.
Calm assertive behavior is what is needed for animals to understand boundaries and leadership. Be it a horse or dog, respect and understanding rules and boundaries is critical for all training. Inconsistent behavior leads to insecurity , which causes fight or flight.
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My first horse was food aggressive, soooo I would just herd her out of the stall, put her food out, and let her back in. Soon she did it on her own. Worked for us-she was a Very smart girl. We grew up together..🐴🚂
I wish I had these videos when I was a teen. I could have been a better horseman earlier in life.
The "buck you" gesture is always fun--until one kicks a rock into your face. haha Great video. Cheers!
When I was a brand new Equestrian I also had confidence issues. To this day I still work on my confidence and am always learning how powerful it is when you're in the same space as a horse! I have to stop looking at horses like dogs! And understand them for what they are, a horse!
I like your way of training no abuse and you have a lot of patience! Great video
Thanks!
HE LITERALLY SMACKED IT WITH THE WIP MANY TIMES?😤
@@the_horse_girl3710 anything he does is WAY LESS than a herd member would do "to teach them" If these behaviors dont get nipped in the butt now they will NEVER continue to build a relationship.
@@the_horse_girl3710 That's a way of showing Dominance he didn't smack it on the head like I've seen many trainers do, or kick the horse Though its your opion and I respect that
@@the_horse_girl3710 you do realize that how they learn out in the wild they get nipped by other horses same kind of concept!
"buck you"?! 🤣🤣🤣 Genius!
I loved that saying!! That was a good one. She "said" it to you several times!! The last shot in the stall she looked like a pouting kid!! Hysterical!
I giggled out loud when he said that. love it
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“ buck you too “
Thank you for being a real horseman. And this is awesome.
Thanks
To be working with horses like that you have to have strong leadership personality, i can't see anybody else going after that horse like that guy. Amazing job, that's how you save horses from being slaughtered.
Horses can sense your feelings. That's how they know if you are hesitant. Hesitancy means weakness in the horse's world
She should also get a cue when she is allowed to the food. Like you acted between 18'21" and 19'01" makes it very unclear to her when she can't and when she can : both times you where standing in the door, first time you chased her back and second time you kept the same posture but let her go.
Consistency and clear communication
Agree! She doesn't know when she can and can't eat. I use "OK" when they are allowed to go to the food.
@ 16:09 - whacks her in her rump & she was already walking away. WTF? This poor horse must be so confused. He is doing damage rather than helping. Wouldn't let him near a horse of mine.
I agree Inge. His whole training approach is passive aggressive. He is not consistent or on time when adding/ releasing pressure. No wonder the horse is upset & confused.
@@mdee860 I wouldn't say she was already walking away at 16:09. She was showing aggression as she was backing up to move. There's a difference in being respectful and moving and showing aggression. Also, maybe he didn't realize at the moment. It's easier to judge while watching a video then to actually be there. Were you the person standing right behind a kicker? No. Anyway.
I agree with the cue word. That could've made things easier.
One of the horses where i rideis a little good aggressive. So what they did is they put like a clicker thing in his stall and when it's feeding time the horse had been trained to go to the back of his stall and when we push the clicker he goes to the food and starts eating
I love that idea! ❤
Yes, clicker training works for lots of animals. Good idea.
@@johanna8206 really? How bout showing your horse you are high horse and they won’t dare test you. On occasion they do, correction should be swift. How does a clicker stop him if you walk up, or another horse..he’s not aggressive?
@@keelsmac01 Yes, that's one way of approaching aggression, however, it has a lot of shortcomings and potential fall-out. The truth is that most, if not all, aggression is rooted in fear. Sometimes you can suppress a behavior through punishment (though worsening the aggression is also very likely), but the emotion behind the behavior remains, and will often crop up in a number of different ways like creating new behavioral issues, creating an animal that is fine around you but not others, or that may suddenly aggress out of the blue (unreliable/unpredictable aggression is especially dangerous), etc.
I had a *major* change in opinion regarding this after working with dogs with severe aggression and other major behavioral issues and witnessing the differences in outcomes between the two different approaches.
For instance, some behaviors we label as aggression are actually warning signals the animal gives in an attempt to *avoid* aggression (like a horse pinning their ears, swinging their head around to threaten a bite, or swinging their haunches towards us, or like a dog growling). Punishing the warning signal often results in the animal skipping the warning in the future and going straight to the bite/kick. This is why punishment often *increases* aggression. The only way to correctly punish the bad behavior is to allow it to happen first, which is kind of insanity. You'd have to wait for the horse to actually bite, or charge you down, and then punish immediatly. Instead, we can use a proactive approach and use the warning signals (or previous aggression) as information on what situations trigger the unwanted behavior, then structure training sessions to change the horse's emotional reactions to those situations (aka counter-conditioning), and teach them what you *want* them to do instead. The perfect example of this is the person who trained the horse to go to the back of the stall and wait for food- that's called a replacement behavior, and you can often eliminate most problem behaviors by teaching a replacement behavior that's incompatible with the unwanted behavior (i.e., the horse can't bite you from the back of the stall).
So, to answer your question, I would 1) find out what triggers the behavior 2) manage the animal so they can't practice that behavior 3) construct a counter-conditioning plan and come up with an appropriate incompatible replacement behavior, and incorporate this into their daily routine. This is the basic premise behind behavioral modification training, and it's extremely effective, with the added bonus of not creating unwanted or secondary behavioral problems.
@@keelsmac01 last time I tried that with a shire I almost died
Good job Jessica. You're horse is super smart she is a fast learner. Keep up the good work.
Hello how are you doing?
A two year old Morgan filly with food aggression kicked my daughter in the forehead & gave her a skull fracture. Got my friend to take the filly back & my daughter was fine. Now a veterinarian.
Love your work! This is really helping me out with my own ponies. We don't stall them, but I now know a better way to ask them to give me my space while I situate their food.
I think what could really help her be more assertive, is to see herself on tape and see truly how she appears in her physical motion. Is the having a bit of a girlish, careful, hip-dip to the side stance, or is she moving strong, shoulders square, chin up etc. I think to practise on that appearance will really help her improve on her body language :)
Spare the rod spoil the child apparently the same applies to horses lol 😂 great training she learned ✅
Best part of this is while he does pop the horse once or twice, he doesn't go whole hog. Just enough to get the horse to stop the behavior and pay attention without any hurt.
I lost count of strikes on the horse after ten times.
@@emsnewssupkis6453 you must have watched the video 3 times cause he only tapper her 3 times with weak ass shots 🤣
@@salut438 Try counting.
He is really kind. That's how people and horses learn. I learned a lot. Thank you 😊
Good lord, I grew up in the old days when we kids were physically beaten in school. Now, children beat their teachers. The guy here beat the horse literally into submission. He should work in a city school instead. I would highly recommend this, in fact.
the barn i work at had a horse with food aggression. they taught him to face the back corner and once they got out he could turn around on command. the word is i think “okay” or “yes”! they’ve been doing it for years now and it has always worked !
I'm no equestrian expert, but I can see that you're as talented at working with humans as you are with horses. I've picked up *mad skills reading human beings* from your videos 😃 Alas, I'm not wealthy enough to develop a relationship with a horse, but opportunity arises, I'll be ready.
Jessica is NOT confident enough in her space to own it., I do think a que word for the horse to know..ok I’m allowed to eat could have been implemented. The horse did AMAZING... Jess didn’t seem as excited for the horses progression.. but I also feel like as dogs and kids... boundaries are ALWAYS good to have as they know when to expect to be corrected. Great Job Millo...
Great job Ryan! I am hooked on your videos! I just love how your energy and demeanor stay the same throughout all of your videos. A lot of people don't understand such simple yet very important things when owning and being around horses.. this is gold.
he did a good job
Always a challenge when a horse hits their version of the terrible twos! Well done Ryan and Jessica, enforcing standards of good behaviour keeps horse and owner safe.
God ✝️ Bless Jessica and her horse 🐴! Keep them Bonded ✝️ and Safe ✝️ Always. I think Jessica got Blessed ✝️ Greatly with such a brave, intelligent mare. Thank God ✝️ for great trainers and owners. God ✝️ Bless Keep Lead Protect Carry everyone.
this is not horse education this is human education great job
Girl: "She's also been showing some aggressiveness".
Horse: "Cuddles & plays innocent".
Ryan I back in the day had a boarding facility of 25 stalls. Now what I am going to discuss is a horse that came to my facility and at feed time would turn a 360 ° circle and kick at each wall. This horse came from a rat infestation training facility. The rats would bit the horses hocks at feed time. This all took place the very 1st day at my place. So I took the horse out and looked at all his hocks. They all had open wounds from being rat bitten. He never got over that fear of being bitten by rats. I asked the owner to take his horse somewhere else. I told him he should find pasture boarding for him by himself. I thought that would go away if the horse was by itself. The owner took my advise. I never kept track to see if it worked. The poor horse was doing the only thing he could to scare the rats out of his stall. Thought I would share this.
That’s just horrible.
I'm here from 'think like a horse'. It's my first watch ...this is a Great recommendation. 👍
I've subscribed. 😁
Ryan should have his own TV show. He deserves every cent of ad revenue he gets on this channel. Total pro.
Watch cowboy at 17:40 back out of the stall before he got trapped behind two back heels...That takes skill and learning "the hard way" Sure the mare shouldn't have gotten so pushy but its become such a dangerous situation even a tough cowboy listened to the little girl about the behavior to save his own hide. Great video.
It takes courage to go on youtube and be criticized, good job both of you. I don't know how old Jessica is but I would hope she will be taking a few more lessons from you to build her confidence, body language positions and most important, enforcing her commands. If Millie is involved that would be good but she seems a bit too smart and quick at learning and Jessica is rightfully afraid of her. The only way for Jessica to get better is by practicing her commands with body language skills on several different horses and becoming confident by receiving similar responses from different horses. I am much older now but I remember the first time I dealt with this particular horse behavior in the 1970's. Same behavior different horse...Jessica, You have to watch horses, learn how important timing is to these beautiful creatures and know that you are not going to hurt that horse with that stick, remember they communicate with 1000lb bodies, teeth and hooves. That stick, swinging the rope is what literally makes you bigger and is what will keep you safe if they get aggressive. Beautiful horse and mimic Mr. Rose's timing and movements 100%, watch the video over and over until you look and move like him around all horses. Mr. Rose let these girls correct their horses as much as possible, they have to learn how to do it.
I'm a yeah and no to that. It seems from where I am based on a vid only (whihc can be a bit dsdeceptive at times), that the young filly that seems to have had a few "wins" is not the horse for a young (compared to me approaching my 70's) inexperienced would be trainer to learn on the job. If I have to wear a helmut I certainly don't get on them and I don't put myself in the position where the horse can bail me up. For me Jessica would need to be present during the whole training process - which for this filly - hard to say but maybe a few months to a year.
I hauled race horses and show horses for 2 major carriers, the stories I have are incredible. Yearlings were always fun, stallions are always fun. I have been bit, kicked, stepped on and head butted. Loading a horse is an art, some guys muscled horses which was not my style.
Gut zu sehen, wie gut für alle und schnell sich so etwas lösen lässt. Allerdings ist es auch schlimm zu erkennen, wie wenig Menschen, die sich Pferde zulegen, verstehen mit ihnen umzugehen. Ich bin sehr dankbar, dass es Menschen wie Dich Ryan gibt, danke dir so viel🙏💕
Horse right off the bat during her interview gets in her ear and says "oh you talking about me.....wait till those cameras are gone...."
Very good! Total patience. Nicely done.
Hey Ryan, it looks like your video has gone a bit viral, congrats on that. I was asked to check it out as a few of my own viewers have seen it and wondered a few things. I did end up watching from beginning to end, and while there are some good points made on understanding some horse behaviors and how to modify them, there were a few parts where you have likely taken this horse backwards and quite possibly even made it a more dangerous situation for the girl. I say this with some trepidation as I don't know what it looked like before and maybe just being able to get into that stall without getting beat up by the horse is the comparison, and in such a case she would be safer. So, in reality I don't know if it's safer, but I do know a few things that I thought I would pass on by just observing the video and giving what is essentially an objective set of facts that may be useful to you if you were to watch your own video back with a critical eye.
1. Very very likely this horse is hungry. I expect the feeding schedule is a 2 flakes on the floor a couple to three times a day. This will give a horse sustenance and allow them to live, but science has shown us that the horse's stomach works very different and in fact must have something in it just about at all times. I would encourage you to study on how the stomach works and why this horse likely has ulcers and the habits created are from survival and pain. Eating literally makes the pain go away. What would you do for something like that?
2. Part way into your technique of hitting to create aversion to the shaking, you turn around to talk to the girl and the horse continues with a pinned ear and fearful look. You literally trained the horse to expect to get hit every time you shook the bucket. Watch the horse closely each time. Sadly, you look very happy at this response near the end of this training of shake/hit. This type of classical training is very close to what race horses receive where a driver will have a bell or jingle some coins and then hit the horse to make them go faster. When they get on the race track they're not allowed to hit them as much as they do in practice so they jingle a bell. This gives the expectation of being hit. You can see this clearly in the response of the horse every time you shake the bucket (pure fear) and then every single time you approach. You have literally trained this horse to fear you and it's objectively visible in the horse.
3. As you trained you may notice you had to ramp up instead of ramping down. It never ended on anything other than fear in both you and the horse and the owner too sadly. Everybody is afraid. There were a few missed opportunities to pet her and tell her she is amazing, but none of them were taken. You could have provided reassurance and been a friend, but instead relied on aggression from yourself to "command her space".
Now.... I get it, this is a very common approach in the horse world, but there are way better ways to get this done and I think the first is to address the horse having stomach problems due to lack of constant food. Food aggression doesn't happen in horses that aren't hungry or haven't experienced this issue of being starved (to a horse going a couple of hours without food is equivalent to starving as they don't think like we do nor does their biological process work the same) every single night or during the day when stuck in a 10x10 stall. Horse husbandry should be addressed.
I agree with the idea to command space, I always make sure all my horses make room for me no matter the situation if it compromises my safety. This is very important when it comes to doctoring them and taking care of injuries etc. How you've done it though in this case has objectively shown to make the horse more fearful rather than comfortable with humans. Being both hungry and afraid is never a good combination with horses and some tools and techniques on how to get this horse happy that a human comes around would really go a long way I think. She was trapped as well and that can be very scary for horses which will quickly put them in defensive mode too. Sorry for the long book of a comment... I hope it's a little bit useful at least.
Strewth and I thought I could talk !!! Agree X however many points you have made. I'm on "all fours" behind you (before anyone gets antsy about that, I was told once by a lawyer it's a legal term for agree with all issues -and shame on any of you that thought otherwise.):)
@@johnfletcher7312 Thanks John, glad to hear about this being on all fours thing behind me :) hilarious, and you make a good point
This linked from the SHT video timing how long it takes for a horse to eat and i read all the way through the comment before i realised it was you Graeme! Agree with every word!!
@@naomipommerel8415 thanks Naomi. I appreciate that
I wholeheartedly agree with all you points. There should never be a need to hit a horse hard with a stick or anything else (a light tap, as well as talking to the horse, is sufficient), unless the horse is intentionally putting you in grave danger and/or attacking you...and never hit them on their nose/face The gentler approach may take a bit longer to achieve the same goal, but instead of fearful/angry horse, you will have a horse who respects you, enjoys being your companion & will want to do as you request so that it can please you. It also bothered me that he didn't praise, or pet, the horse 'Millie' throughout the training. It's also true about the food/hay portions (or lack of) available to the horse. There are many more compassionate ways to accomplish the goal. Thank you for your reply to Ryan's video, as I'm sure it will serve to enlighten others, as well.
I love this idea as I've had to feed quite a few foo aggressive horses as a groom. The only problem that I might see is getting the horse to back up/"fear" the sound of grain as horses are often escaping an we use grain to bring them in.
One way to prevent this is not using grain to catch horses. It teaches them terrible habits.
I Know some people that get “hangry” When they are craving and want to eat too. I don’t see any reason what so ever to not spoil a horse as you would your kids or dogs!
So what, give them extra treats or extra sweet feed when they are asking for it’!
It would tick me off too if somebody played around and teased me with food. People are too harsh with their horses, lighten up. My horses are extremely friendly and respectful of us and we spoil them With extra treats and sweet feed ALL THE TIME! I know what they want and I give it to them! They are healthy and extremely happy horses!
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One horse that came to me was very food aggressive. The owner told me to take him out the stable, put his feed in the manger and return him. Beggar that! I had twenty plus horses to feed and if I had to do that with them all I’d be feeding lol day.
This horse's manger was at the back of the stable. I fed him and his butt was blocking the door. As I walked towards the door so he swung towards me lifting his leg to kick me.
I held the empty bucket so he kicked that. It flew up in the air, hit the wall, bounced and hit him on top of his head. He shot around the stable and I kept kicking the bucket between his legs for about three circuits.
He was exceedingly respectful of me after that, moving back when I placed his feed and moving his butt away from the door.
Owner couldn’t believe it when she saw him feeding.
Its like Cesar Millan, but for horses. Love watching people who understand animal body language and are able to kinda communicate
It took courage for Jessica to ask for help and be willing to learn. Her mare is a bully who is taking advantage of her good nature and inexperience. I wish them both the best and hope they make a good team for many years. ☀️
I don't think the horse is a bully...she is 2 and still learning boundaries, completely normal. It is important for anyone that comes in contact with a 2 year old horse to be consistent and firm.
Agree with all the best to Jessica - but don't consider from here the filly is a bully - my take on her is she is young a classic flight responder, impressionable and needs experienced guidance.
@@wendynewberry6283 Yo. (I'm getting sick of typing Agree).
@@johnfletcher7312 Agreed. I guess I phrased it wrong.
@@calgal7828 No No not at all far from it. I'm just getting physically sick of typing the word "Agree"!! Incidentally I wonder if old mate Ryan is lying back LOL at all this and counting the benefits of a nice little Yuotube vid gone a little viral? Ryan - are you ??
Confidence is a bliss with horses
And not confident is a recipe for disaster - as a general observation Jessica nothing personal. It you were one of my kids I woudn't let you near this horse to learn on.
The "buck you" comment was funny. Ever since I found this channel I've been visiting once a day.
Always good stuff!
This is probably one of the top 30 TH-cam videos ever made.
he missed adding a queue word for her to let her know that it's ok to come eat at the end. He left her questioning
I understand what you mean, but I disagree. The whole training was about claiming space. The horse got it. When the human leaves, the horse can come to eat. He kept standing there, so she had to wait in her corner.
Later on, you could add a keyword for the horse to come and eat, but this early into the training it would be too confusing. At least that's my opinion ^^
@@martinap6728 As you know, horses always use queue words with each other. They are usually Russian for some reason.
When there is no longer a human present that space is available to her.
@@martinap6728 I agree with you on all counts.
Body language over cue words.
It's a pet peeve of mine, when owners think giving horses a smack sometimes is cruel. It creates pushy rude horses with no respect and that ruins a potentually great horse. I just think, what would the lead horse in a head do if she did that? They would give her a good bite or kick to set her straight.
I have a horse that never needs a smack. He is so good and sweet, if I smacked him it would break his little heart and he wouldn't speak to me for weeks. All I have to do to correct him is say "Ah ah!" But I also have a cheeky mare who on occassion has needed a smack on the chest when she gets pushy and kicky. She's so confident, she gets over it in minutes and shows respect again (we always make friends again). She knows I care for her and I'm the leader.
It really depends on the horse. We had gelding that I could punch with all my force and he'd be back in 2 seconds, ready to continue the game (when his "hormones" kicked in, he got really dangerous, hunting other geldings, trying to separate me from my mare on the meadow, once pulling on the neck part of my hoodie pullover and thereby choking me, when I turned my back on him). My own mare sometimes "takes a hit" for good measure. She knows that she is breaking the rules, she does it anyway and accepts the punishment as consequence. But if she does not know why she is punished, she freaks out (it mostly happens when I make a movement she interprets as me going to hit her - and often she is wrong. Or when she bumps her head into things because she gets too happy over a head rub). We have another mare that I can't punish at all, though she is cheeky. But she is kind of cheeky and really scared at the same time? Like she bit me in the neck while petting her head once (and in the jacket another time), but if I get too loud or move too fast, I can't approach her, because she will run scared.
I don't aggree with you. The use of aggression for horses training is just a traditional way of training but nowadays there are some more positive and effective training methods... It is all about understand animal behavior, theory on reinforcement and know how to apply all of this. Of course you need to "study" a bit about all this before in order to get good results.
I always think that yeah horses bite to each other and all of that, but I am not a horse, I am not as strong as a horse but I have intelligence and I should use that, make the efford to understand them and find ways to let them know what I want without the need to bite or kick like a horse 😆. Positive training (so no smack) is use to even train elephants, tigers and bears in zoos and its working out great, so why not with horses?
@@tursiopss Anthropomorphism does not help animals. Thinking like a human when handling horses could get someone hurt and it just confuses the horse.
I have 40 year experence owning horses. Do you own horses? There's a big difference between aggression and discipline. I have eight horse two of them are best friends and total opposites. Cobalt (gelding) is sweet and gentle and kind. Willow (mare) is cheeky, fun and a little rascal. She can gets very bolshie with people and my boy around feed time. Even though they a best friends. I nip it in the bud by waving a training whip at her and she soon knows to back off. This is what a horse would do with an ear pin or worse, with a kick or a bit. Far worst that a little palm smack. Now if I waved the whip at my boy. He would be so upset with me, he wouldnt talk to me for days, he is so soft. I just say "ah, ah" to stop him doing something he shouldn't. Differet horses need different levels of disapline. You can't pigeon hole them all the same.
You say people are not as strong as a horse. All the more reason to correct disrespectful or dangerous behavour. People who don't disapline their horses are putting themselves and other people in danger. Horses don't need hugs and kisses, they need a leader they respect and feel safe with.
Discipline doesn't mean I don't love my horses with all my heart. It means I want my family to be safe around them and for my horses to be safe around each other.
@@blauespony1013 Oh wow, he sound like a stallion. Maybe a bit riggy. I talk about two of mine in the comment below. i have one I could never smack, it would hurt his soft feelings too much. Then I have one that needs a smack on the chest or a whip just waved at her. She would be food aggressive in the wrong hands. But we keep it nipped in the bud.
@@twilightingX Maybe I didn't explain it right. It is not about anthropomorphism, I am not giving the horse any human characteristic! I don't own a horse but I have work with horses along with other animals always using positive reinforcement when training and it has work out pretty good so far. What you are saying about how your horses react to a whip or your voice is just happening because you introduced those stimulus on a negative way in some moment of their life, that is just the traditional way we have use to train horses and also used for dogs in the past (not recomended anymore), issue with this methods is that we ussually react when the animal does a wrong behavior but don't react that much when the horse does the right thing because people just don't know how to reinforce a horse, they think saying "good boy/girl" is going to be enought like if horses could understand your verbal language out of nowhere (not saying you do but many horses owner I have seen just use that as reinforcer)... the guy on the video is actually reinforcing the horse a few times when it does right but he could have avoid those aggresive moments by training an alternative behavior without the need to slamp the horse with the whip such as:
"train a target, introduce target when the person goes to the stable to give food, give a better reinforcer than that food when the horse is on the target so she will see that she get better things out of stay there with the target than being aggresive to the person... over time aggresive behavior will start to go down and horse will learn to stay in that specific point when food is given", that is just an small example.
Positive training is about ignore the bad behavior but reinforce a lot the good one, of course this has to be done right from the beggining to avoid aggresive horses but a horse with aggresive behaviors can come out from all types of training methods if they are done wrong... I have seen lions that stay quite like nothing is happeing while they are getting blood samples juts because they have been train on a positive methods, just to tell about how incredible things animals can do if they are teach on a positive way.
Horses don't need hug and kisses, I know hahha but I am not saying that :) reinforcement can be a small piece of a food they love, social introduction or something as simple as release pressure. You just need to know each individual to see what can be more reinforcer at every point, no need to be a leader by slamping them!
Hey Ryan. Do you follow up on these lessons/stories? I showed your video to my 87 y/o Dad and he wanted to know if the girl continued working with her horse ☺️
Yeah, last I heard they’re doing well.
@@ryanrosehorsemanship Look forward to the latesrt new and improved version
Ryan?!
@@ryanrosehorsemanship "yeah, you heard they're doing well" I'm sorry but that does not sound like a follow-up. You know hearing and seeing are two different things. I'd have to see how "well" that situation is going LoL
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This guy’s great. Anyone who thinks he was “mean” doesn’t actually work in the horse industry.
Brilliant job Mr. Rose. Well done.
I really like Ryan! His demeanor and instruction is really great. Wherever he lives it sure is pretty country!
Thanks, I agree
@@ryanrosehorsemanship And you're gorgeous too.....just saying x
That's what I'm saying while watching this he's a good looking man. He doesn't sound southern I'm from Jersey he sounds like he's from PA /NJ maybe CA
Always interesting to see how we females have to be really conscience of having to change our normal stance to present big and strong. Shoulders BACK, CHEST OUT, and standing TALL are not how we normally go thru life. But we can ♥️👍♥️
Thank you!
This whole training experience was awesome to watch.
Wonderful teacher. Both human and horse learn the lesson. It's beautiful! Success is fostered with both.
Always throw my mind when I see horses for sale and many saying the following: aggressive in the box etc etc.... people really should learn horsy behaviour instead dream riding their pony. So many of them were taught bad behaviour.