Vogtland Coilovers and Corner Balance for the Fiat 500 Abarth
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- Installing Vogtland Coilover Struts and Shocks plus corner balancing my Fiat 500 Abarth. This is a full install tutorial for front struts and rear shocks for the Fiat 500 Abarth. Afterwords, using race scales and the height adjustment on the coil over suspension we attempt to corner balance the car for maximum autocross / track handling. All installs performed by a smart ass.
I like your sense on humor! Another Great Fiat 500 Abarth video. Thanks.
Thanks a lot!
Perfect video, so listenable to and easy to understand,
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The only video like this I've found that lists torque values. THANK YOU!
Abarth Army! Thank You! In Leesburg and starting my build! My car has been in the garage for a year. Had a transmission inspection plate break and causing some issues.
I’m getting my car out this weekend and getting it ready for some DIY carbon fiber body panels, a DIY titanium exhaust and some super pricy Italian car candy!
I'm not mechanically experienced and my little abarth is identical to yours - even has the same lowering springs thrown idiotically onto the oem shocks.
Glad to see a great tutorial, and also to see the hardest part is lifting the thing!
This was a great one for sure. It’s interesting how your install videos and mine are vastly different but give the same message. I really like your style so keep up the good work!
Thanks! I think your install videos are the masterclass, so I’m just trying to add some “why” and “how does it work” to the picture, along with some nonsense a respectable business owner can’t get away with.
I am enjoying your videos and great sense of humour as well! One small thing to note is that the rear shocks on these cars are at a steep angle and thus the rubber bushes have a lot of work to do. To alleviate their stresses it is best to torque the upper and lower bolts once the car is back on its own weight. take care friend.
This is awesome. Glad I found the channel. Been looking for a clean abarth for a while now.
Lots of deals on these things to be had, good luck!
best car channel on youtube, keep it up!
A long way from the best, but I’m trying
@@EveryOtherFridayOff thats why you are awesome- 99% of channels seem bought out or something. I know how much work it is to do youtube, and when someone is genuine is shows. Im 99% sure im going to pick up an abart, hopefully if i do ill see you on a course sometime!
Thank you for a great video 👍 Have a nice weekend 🤟
Thanks, you too!
No front chassis braces? Against class rules? If not, i recommend the DNA or El Gato ones. Makes a huge difference.
Nothing yet. On the wish list, but that will be a next season mod. While getting my butt kicked on the corner balance, I did wonder how much flex negates everything I was doing.
Very well explained
Good job bro...don't think I have the patience to figure that out
Great and interesting video. Could you show in a next video where you place the points for jacking up the Abarth with the bridge?
Sure. If your in immediate need, this is online a lot of places. Its a little bit of a difficult car to do because the rear points are a pinch weld, and you need to be careful not to touch the side skirts.
@@EveryOtherFridayOff I am in no hurry. In the future I want to do some work myself. Earlier I found some photos that state the jack points. But I can't find any video that show how to use a "bridge". I don't want to brake my Abarth...
What gauge is that on the right of the speedo?
hey i have a question please is 2780 the weight of the car ? which mean 1260kg ? i know the abarth 500 have arround 1035kg (2281lbs)
Sorry I’m so late to the party but I’m hoping for some advice. I noticed the bottom bolt hole on your front coilovers is elongated as if it’s meant for some kind of camber adjustment, but from what I can see you just used a regular bolt to hold it in place. We recently installed a set of coilovers with the same elongated bolt hole on the bottom and I want to make sure I didn’t miss something. Is that pinch bolt really enough to hold the camber in place under hard driving?
Hi bud!
Whats your opinion of these coils? Im from Europe and I have a 1995 mk1 Fiat Punto that I want Vogtland coils for but so far I havent seen any reviews of a Punto with them on and your review is the closest to it.
I've been told to go for the TA Technix coils but I got my mind set for the Vogtland. Lol.
Take care
I am not very impressed. They have a cheap feel. The sway bar end link bracket is worse than oem. Ride is stiffer and lower. Maybe I’ll like them more when race season resumes. Good luck!
@@EveryOtherFridayOff Hi and thanks for your reply. I might try another brand then when the opportunity comes then. I have TA Technix as the cheaper ones but people talk good stuff about them and more or lesse ate the same price of the Vogtland I have AP, KW, ST, Lowtec... I will do a much thorough search about coils. Thanks for your help.
Best regards
hello good video! I am interested in this suspension for my abarth, can it be lowered further back?
Hey Every, like and enjoywatching your videos. Well thought out and presented for anyone to.follow. I am changing out shocks. Question where did you buy.the lower adjustable shock mounts. Currently bought the polyeurethane lowers. Kinda like the adjustables and can fine tune. Thanks
Are you talking about the spring mounts? They are part of the Vogtland kit
Sorry meany replacement rear bump stops. You removed the stock.oem top mount to lower rear adjustables. Thanks
My next mod for sure! Great video! I am in between the Vogtland or Bilstein... How are those Vogtland holding?
They seem to be holding up just fine, but I'm not giving them a ringing endorsement. There is a range of shocks you can get, from high quality non adjustable, to high quality fully adjustable. I think these Vogtlands try to shoot for the middle, which maybe isn't a good thing. It just bothers me that the height adjustment affects the spring compression. I wasn't going to spend more for proper adjustment, but I kind of wish I had gone for like a koni setup, giving up the height adjustment but gaining some quality and valving. Thanks for Watching!
@@EveryOtherFridayOff Thanks for the response! I am leaning toward your coilovers because of the price... Have you find a good setup (with a comfortable amount of ride quality plus great handling)? Or are these always uncomfortable?
Remember I’m coming off of lowering springs with stock dampeners, so even with the car as low as I dare, it’s still more comfortable than what I had. I really won’t know anything more than that until race season starts.
Ride height won't be valid for 2 reasons. 1. You need to drive car to settle springs. 2. You put new struts in front. That means the camber is possibly off. That effects toe also, which if off a lot will cause wheels to push out changing ride height. Really need to get basic setup right first. Then play with ride height. After you get it where you want, it's then time for final toe adjustment.
Of course as mentioned I got my alignment afterwords, which only confirmed that the place I had set it was already pretty good, which is likely because these things have very little adjustment. However, none of that really affects static load distribution, which is what I was using the ride height to set.
i also autocross my abarth and ran stock suspension last season and am wondering are lowering springs and sway bars a good option or are coilovers superior as of autocross handling and performance?
Rear sway bar is a good idea, and is separate from your other question about springs and dampeners. I think that the spring and dampener should be matched. So I consider throwing a lowering spring on stock dampeners a mistake. Other than that, I think its really up to your budget. Being as low as possible in our high CG cars seems pretty important.
Erik Linder it’s important to eliminate any under over steer problems, ultimately it’s a personal choice really
I’m planning on a new heavily greased chrome moly sleeve to put over rear bar and doubling up or tripling, if the screw thread is long enough, on front lower and side chassis support with the stock parts on top of existing ones, seems like a cheaper way to experiment, may have to improvise for the bottom front one with a few spot welds
after a few scrapes on current height in front not excited about fmic pipes and anything attached to them getting damaged so ultimately adjustable coil overs are the best way to enjoy both worlds
They look like the wrong top mounts on the front to me?.......
Edit no in fact I have a UK Abarth 500 and scuttle is different and takes a different suspension top mount really stange🤔
scottsvxr I was looking at this the other day. Your top of the strut mount looks tiny, and your washer on top of the tower looks much more stout. My question is, I have to think our strut towers are the same, so are our parts interchangeable? And whose are better? Do you guys have lots of strut mount failures like we do?
It's just a theory but I think in the right hand conversion they used a different scuttle because on the UK car the top mount is sort of an oval shape as is the recess in the strut towers, it's a nice tight fit with little movement off load. The UK top mounts are also the same fitted to the early Punto (one before the Grande). It looks to me like the US/left hand drive Abarth Version has a round strut tower like the Grande punto. So my thoughts is Fiat used an old Fiat Punto scuttle to convert to Right hand drive to keep costs down. Yes still get them failing after 30,000 if your lucky.
@@scottsvxr Thanks a lot for the info! I've been asking this question in the forums, but you are the first with such a solid answer. Thanks.
A nice little cheap modification I run on mine is hub centric spacers, 16mm on the front 20mm on the back. Not only improves handling but looks very good too, though wheel spacers are not for everyone. I got my kit from Italy which was specifically designed for Abarth 500.
What is the curb weight?
About 2500 lbs
@@EveryOtherFridayOff Thanks
“Chas sis”… really?!
I’d guess you’re not getting exactly the handling you expect because the rear wheels are tied together via that suspension beam between them. Pretty poor design.
True, but I paid under $9k for a really fun car with 26 k miles. Some cheap elements are to be expected
Every Other Friday Off As long as you love it, that’s all that matters. Cheers!