What does it weigh?! Peterbilt 536 Hooklift Truck, Under CDL
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- There's a lot of people in my DM's asking what my new truck weighs and asking how much can I legally haul with it? So I take you along in todays video to a CAT Certified Scale, and talk about just that! I also talk about why I bought this Peterbilt over anything else on the market.
How much do you think it weighs?
I want to also let everyone know there are tools like truckscience. Someone can setup a weight distribution in less than 30 minutes that gets you in the ballpark. The manufacturers (palfinger) have the software. Your reputable up-fitters have tools like this. If you are buying a truck tell them to give you a weight distribution when you sign the paperwork. The difference in mounting a hook 10 inches off can be the difference in 1000lbs of payload.
Yes! I've covered this in a previous video about the importance of using a reputable and experienced up fitter. There's so much that goes into building these trucks properly to perform as you need them to. Great suggestion. Thanks for sharing with everyone.
Awesome video, John! I appreciate you answering that question for me. It’s very interesting to see the way that you’re approaching things and the future plans of the business. I definitely learned a lot that I was interested in on this one. Keep up the great work.
Thanks Joe. Its funny, just like all things in life usually are... They are seldom what they appear without any explanation. This is no different and like we were saying in our conversation last week over the phone, there is a method to the madness and how I approach future growth. Thanks for watching my friend, I appreciate you.
Thanks for taking the time to put this information out there. Definitely not an option for someone wanting to stay under CDL, but I see you forward thinking. Does not take much to go over 3 tons on a C&D project in a 20 yard. Most of my 20's are under 3 tons, but every now and then you get some guys that load them with drywall and no air gaps or they get rained on. Definitely would not work with my 27 yrds. I include up to 3 tons on those.
If I ever went to a truck, I would consider an Isuzu FVR. 10,500lb Curb weight(no hoist) with 33,000lb GVWR. Plus killer turning radius with the COE.
You bring up some very valid points for sure. As mentioned in this video, this truck purchase is to help me make moves in the future when I decide its right for me. As far as any truck, I tell everyone to buy the brand of truck regardless of what it is, where you have the best dealer support for parts and service. If you can get the best parts and service from Isuzu... buy an Isuzu. If you get the best parts and service from Peterbilt, buy a Peterbilt. Thanks for the contribution, some very valid points.
I’m going to have to go with the isuzu 33,000 GVW the truck comes dressed out at 150k still over my budget of being landscaper your Peterbilt is the dream and you finished it at the highest level. Quick question should I get the air ride in the back or just springs? I have a lot of hills where I live on the Hudson River ny ?
It's Hilarious. A bunch of us were just talking about Weights of set ups today on the facebook group. Great time for this content to drop. Thanks again brother for the on point information.
Thanks for taking the time to check out my videos. I appreciate the support.
John that was Great! I love it. You are direct, throw it in your face!🤣 Great information!! I had an inkling what you might be thinking when you released the first Pete shop build video. To get a head you have to think forward of the possibilities and put yourself in the right position(without breaking the bank). I have always over built my trucks so I feel safe and comfortable getting the job done, and not destroying them at the same time. My trucks never break due to weight issues. I saw the excitement in you when you where in Las Vegas at the “aircraft carrier”. I’ve viewed most of your videos and podcasts multiple times and read up on your history, you are a smart man and don’t like surprises. Nether do I. Keep up the great content. 🇺🇸😎
Thank You Keith. I don't like surprises of any type! You can write that down and underline it twice. Everyone can have their own unique way of being successful in this business and my approach is no different. I have found a formula that has worked well for me in trucking and I stick to it. Doesn't matter if you're hauling 250K lbs loads or 3K lbs loads, having a well thought out and well run way to execute that plan with consistency is key. Thanks for watching.
Our triaxles are 73280 gvw, but they're spec'ed to 86k with 20k front, 20k drop, and 46k rears. The hooks are T60, but if we were to ever pick up 30 tons (capacity) we'd be way over legal. It's still great to not work the equipment to it's limit. Saves wear and tear on the equipment.
As far as under cdl, our new Pete 220 was 15160 with a 6'3" driver in the cab. We've crossed the scale once at 26060 and again at 26080 and both times the driver said that the 33k chassis handled light it was nothing.
You can never go wrong overbuilt imo. Lastly, in PA, to my knowledge, no longer allows registration changes like you discussed for Utah, but they definitely once did.
I know there are some states that don't allow the increased registration weight. So Thanks for letting everyone watching know that PA is one of those states. As always, I appreciate you sharing your knowledge.
@@samedaydumpster you as well buddy. Good video ✅👍
Your research and knowledge is impressive
Thank You Anthony. I just want this channel to be a place anyone needing information or knowledge about our industry to be able to get the correct answers. Thanks for supporting.
@@samedaydumpster oh I’m watching and listening and thanks for what you share John. I need to take action
Keeping it real. Thanks for your hard work !
Thanks for watching Rich. Very much appreciate the support.
One important distinction that your under CDL viewers may not have grasped the concept is air brakes. Basically once you cross that threshold of air brakes is where class B straight truck CDL world begins( not combination). For trucks large enough and heavy enough to be pushing the envelope of 26,000 gross which will start to stress and strain at that point and may not have the stopping distance in intersections which smaller lighter trucks might enjoy for safety.
Solid point and a great contribution to this conversation. Thank You Ben.
Thanks for the great video as always!
Very much appreciated guys.
@@samedaydumpster I have to say, I passed a Popeyes being built in my town the other day and i thought of you instantly.. So your color branding is working, Because as soon as i seen those 2 colors together (same as yours) your channel popped up in my head lol
@@DelawareDiamondDumpsters Hell Yea, that what it’s all about.
Of course, you know where all the dot scales are located and how to go around them, and when they are open,
and which truck to send when you have to cross the scales. Just be glad you don't have to run logs.
These are some of the reasons I am purposefully running my show under CDL currently. I'm trying to keep things as simple as possible. We do 99% of our running within the city limits and there's no scales inside our city, they are all outside the city on the freeways. But... we know what we can legally haul and we stay within our limits. Again... I like to keep this game as simple as possible.
Tha ns for sharing this info. I've been doing research in single axle hook lift trucks for some time now and it's been a challenge to find these numbers. If you have the opportunity, somewhere things I'd like to know are weight of truck plus a flat bed and the deck height of thay flat bed when it's on the truck. Looking forward to the door tag video as well.
I can tell you that my flatbed you've seen in other videos weighs exactly 2,440lbs. So if I add that weight to this Peterbilt 16,700 + 2,440 = 16,944. Not sure of the exact deck height, but I can post that help in the next day or so. Thanks for the support of the channel my friend.
@samedaydumpster No problem, thanks for the reply! Now my next challenge is finding a 38k truck on the used market 😅
Love your videos brother.and that truck so sick
Thanks brother!
He'll ya do your thing! That is a smart move!!
Thanks for watching the channel Tony. Very much appreciated.
You have a CDL, your truck can haul more, why not just register it higher? You said to keep it simple, can you do a video or elaborate on what that means and what else is involved when you choose to run a truck rated over 26k? Logs, insurance cost, employee w/CDL? Great videos, I appreciate the time, effort, and info...thank you
Yes... I'm def going to expand on this with another video or two as so many guys are asking very specific questions. I'll answer why I don't go over cdl and just register it for more weight right now. If I do that... there's several guys I work with daily that wouldn't be able to drive my truck and help me out which we do on a very regular basis. So for now... I'm staying under cdl. But I'm def going to create some more videos on this topic. Thanks for watching.
couple questions #1 Tell me how you derate a truck that is born 26,000 lbs from factor peterbilt 536 is a class 6 truck a 537 on the other hand is a class 7 which is born from factory being 33,000 lbs truck #2 3 tons you can legally carry but not you or the customer can justify that every bin you pickup will be 3ton or under all scenarios apply snow,rain so basically you’d be over loaded most times unless your weighing the bins on site before you pick them up
1. You don't derate an under 26,000Lbs truck like a Peterbilt 536, it comes from the factory already under cdl. A Peterbilt 537 comes from the factory as a 33,000lbs truck. You can't "derate" after they leave the factory. Isuzu is the only manufacturer that can and will allow derates after it leaves the factory.
We have plenty of work in the "legal payload" area. Not everyone needs to run over cdl to be successful my friend. And not everyone runs "overweight". Professionalism and accountability are still very much alive and how a lot of successful businesses operate.
Thanks for checking out the channel.
Another great video! I have been watching for a bit now and I have been curious about one thing, Your concrete dumpsters are 12' are all your containers 12'? Sorry if you already covered this in a video or in a comment I over looked.
Solid Question John. I run 12', 14' and a few 15' dumpsters. My concrete are indeed 12' long. Thanks for watching.
Great video!
Thanks for watching.
Gonna get every feather & pillow disposal contract in the area.
I went to your channel to see how I should better run my business Scott…. You got less than nothing… no business, no content, literally nothing. Prolly sitting on your couch handing out advice like Halloween candy. Put out some content that helps our industry, or sit the fuck down and let the adults show you how it’s done. This is by far the kindest message you’ll ever receive after a comment like you just dropped on my channel.
Another awesome video. When I do switch into the hook market, I’m definitely going though your truck dealer. Who is your go to for trucks?
Ruble Truck Sales in New Haven, IN Ask for Jeff 260.466.1160 Extremely knowledgeable with all things related to building these hooklift trucks. Best of Luck my man.
Thank you. Definitely going to reach out next week to Jeff and get numbers on what I need.
How often do your customers fill dumpsters over 6k pounds?
My 20 yarders rarely go over 6k.
But my 30 yarders get up to 15k with contractors and drywall. My Kenworth cable pull tandem handles those
Great video John. Too re-register the truck at the 33k ratings would you just have to change the tires to a higher weight rating then to be legal in Utah?
No sir. I can register this truck in Utah for 33,000 GVW with a trip to my local DMV and just pay for the additional weight increase. That's it... Nothing additional required.
Really appreciate your video. On this truck that can take another 9000 - 10000 lbs without exceeding CDL, why have a 20,000 hook? Even if you step up to CDL, is the hoist still over spec'd?
Great question. It's pretty simple... the cost of going with a bigger hoist over a smaller hoist is very minimal. I like to take more "gun to the fight" than needed. It's simple, dumpsters get stuck in snow, mud, ice and just about anything else that will bury your dumpsters down. Having a larger hook never hurts you and the weight is quite minimal in the over all picture.
I’m going to do the research and see if this works in my state. I only know of maybe one or two of the motor carrier folks that would likely actually know so I’m going to start looking on my own first. What are some keywords you think I should be looking for as far as finding statutes regarding registering higher than derated GVWR or rescinding a derated GVWR back to OEM spec?
Visit your local commercial licensing division. Walk in the door and ask them if it's possible. It should be very easy to get answered. Thanks for watching, best of luck.
Truck name idea... Diamond Debbie the Dumpster Hauler! LOL just my thoughts...
What are you wanting to haul that Chevy 6500 can’t haul?
not related to the video but for your google ads do you do search campaign or smart campaign. i think i’ve seen you say search but can’t fully remember
I don't do "smart campaigns" I indeed decide what type of potential clients I want my ads shown to. I do this primarily with zip code matching. Hope that helps.
What happened to Wednesdays video? Same day withdrawal
It comes out tonight. Let’s just say this, I’m missing an entire day this week and I have no idea where it went! Thanks for the support brother, new episode drops tonight 6pm then back to our regular schedule 👊🏾
Great video, your always going to have haters, anyway do a video on why you are running a us dot number, I thought if under CDL, you don’t need one.
Great video idea. Just a quick little about that. A DOT Number isn't tied to a CDL in any way shape or form. The DOT Number is tied to the business, not the driver or drivers. Think about it more like the business's own social security number. But I love the idea and I'll def put it on my list.
How long is the wheelbase? Not sure I can fit that in tight spots, like I do my Chevy 6500
So at a 26000 gvwr with a 3200 pound, can you have less than 3 tons of payload
Less??? No…. Right at 3 tons, but not less
Your 6500 is 23k gvwr right? That truck with a 22 yarder can probably only haul 3 tons in it also right? Whats the 6500 weigh with the 22 yarder?
My 6500 is legal for 23,500 GVW. The weight of that truck with a 22 yard dumpster is 14,980lbs. So my 6500 can legally payload 8,520lbs.
@@samedaydumpster oh okay the truck isn't as heavy as I thought.
Did you release the derate video?
Not yet... man I've gotten a little backed up with all this content we are trying to share... it's coming, I promise.
Whats that rule for 11/225 tire
Federal Law allows 5,000lbs per each 11R22.5 size tire.
Where did you get your dumpster from ?
All our dumpsters are built here in Salt Lake City
Do you have to have DOT cards?
No. DOT Cards and Medical cards are for drivers, Not for the truck. Under 26,000 or "Under CDL" does not require any type of medical card in Utah.
Love the teuck but how are you getting away with using it? You have to be overweight constantly
Residential trash just isn't that heavy my friend. We very very rarely pick up a can that would put us overweight. But I do appreciate the compliment open the truck. Thanks for watching my friend, I appreciate it.
Thanks for sharing the trucks weights and payload trying to figure out witch hooklift truck to go with and all the trucks i see for sale only give gvw like they are scared to tell you what you can haul with them atlases the ones under 26,000 anyway
I have a 2004 7500 chevy with a 25000 palifinger hook lift it weighs 16500 with no can Same setup how is the steering compared. The Kodiak turns on a dime backs in like a car
It turns sharper than most larger trucks, but I wouldn't use either of the terms "turns on a dime" or "backs in like a car" when describing the turn radius on this Peterbilt.
@@samedaydumpstermy 7500 is plated at 36000. I have had it at 50000. When I back into a driveway I can back in from my lane. Without driving on wrong side of road to get a better angle