Klipsch Reference R-12SW Subwoofer Review - Strong Output, Great Price
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.ค. 2024
- In this video, I review the Klipsch Reference R-12SW Subwoofer. This is a ported 12 inch subwoofer with Klipsch's typical design esthetic. If you can get this subwoofer for close to what I paid, it's a steal. Also, this sub is not really a killer sub and you will not be in any danger if you buy it. Just seeing if anyone reads these.
Klipsch R-12SW Subwoofer
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bit.ly/3HJtAUK (Adorama)
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
0:20 Unboxing
0:42 First impressions
2:50 Amplifier section
4:26 Size comparison
5:56 Listening experience
7:22 Room size
8:27 Thoughts on placement
10:14 Measurements
13:13 12SW @minidspltd could be a good combo
14:03 Comparison with SVS SB-2000
15:21 Final Thoughts - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
Thank you for the stats. And it’s a coincidence that these are the two subwoofers that I wanted to compare, thank you thank you thank you!
Ha! Me too!
I just received one of the Klipsh R-12SW subs. I waited for it to get used to my ambient home temp and connected it, turned it to on and waited to send a signal from my Denon. It rocked nicely and for the purchase price I am very happy at this point. It blends nicely with the R-5,s (not like the 15) but it doesn't p**s of my Wife. Thanks for the review.
It certainly packs a punch for the money. Glad you like it.
Nice video and nice find on this deal. I got the same SB2000 and two PB2000s in my theatre. SVS is well worth the money but this one is going to my brother for his system since he is a "Klipsch Guy" we all pray for him, but it will at least pass the WAF as it matches the 5 Klipsch speakers he has now. Great deal and great review
I have nothing but respect for Klipsch but SVS is better for sure.
I just got a good deal on ebay open box the wireless transmitter model for just 177.00 .Watching your video made me decide to pull the trigger on this one 😏. Now I can said that with this purchase I complete my 4 subwoofer project 😍
Nice work!
I just picked this subwoofer up at a Costco in Orange County in CA for $50 on clearance. I have been looking for a good subwoofer for awhile and figured for the price it was a no brainer.
That is the deal of the century.
Was it the R-12SW or the R-12SWi , which has a wireless transmitter ? 🤔🧐🤩
@@smartypants4571 wasn't the R-12SWi Costco isn't going to sell that subwoofer at $50. I know because I got two of the R-12SWi's at Costco for $189 each.
@@smartypants4571 wi
I literally was researching this subwoofer tonight and was telling my brother that I bet I could get a miniDSP and 2 or 4 these subs eq’ed and have a pretty decent setup. I just might have to try it now.
Four of these things would be incredible. I would like to hear that. I think the minidsp is the key.
I got 4 with the minidsp 2x4 hd. Time align and eq them and they are awesome
@@Pete.across.the.street I had a feeling that they would, does it hit the deep bass that shakes the house?
@@rynev3392 oh yeah! They do for sure. They are a great value. They are boomy if you don't time align and eq, but once you do the bass tightens up nicely.
@@Pete.across.the.street Glad to know my theory was correct. Enjoy!
After many months of research and going back and forth on the SVS SB1000 Pro, Definitive Technology DN10, Klipsch R-120SW, Elac 12", Emotiva Airmotiv XS12 (Best for $549- Amplifier is high end and Box weighs 90 Pounds for a 12" Sub) I decided to pay $299 or $285 with the 5% Promo Code for the OSD Trevoce 12" it's Triple 12's in a Sealed Box (2 Passive Glass Carbon woofers & 1 Active 12" Paper type woofer) Hits 18 HZ low. Outdoor Speaker Depot was Free shipping 2 days via UPS paid $307 after Tax. Has all 3 inputs= High Level Speaker wire, LFE and Dual RCA pair.
That SVS thooo!! 🤤🤤🤤🤤
They’re really good!
Bought at Costco for $149.00 / want right back. Port chuffing on the unit I had was horrendous! Spent extra on the RSL Speedwoofer 10S / much more clean output.
Cant compare the SVS you have - they make a solid unit.
It didn’t hear any chuffing but if you don’t like something, you have to move on. Love my SVS subs.
Phenomenal at $150. Unfortunately, today, you won't find it for less than $300, and more like $350 on sale. $150 is less than 50% of it's MSRP. Supply chain and inflation is working against us, lol!
The sub is $205 right now on Amazon.
Mann I’m hating on everyone who got it for $150, I got it today for $350 from $599!! 🤦🏽♂️
238 rn
Just paid $219 for mine. If I like it great, if not I'll go SVS SB-2009
This is a killer sub!! It definitely feels more powerful than 400w…
i just bougt 2 wow the bass is very deep ,,$189 on amazon
It’s very powerful for the money
Great review! I have been considering this subwoofer to pair with The Fives. I am trying to decide whether it would be best to get the wireless version ($229), for easier placement on my living room, or just the standard version (currently $170) ? If I can just place the subwoofer closer to the speakers, I think wired would work, but if otherwise I have to place it all the way where the seating area is, then I would want to avoid cables... I am new to audio systems.. where do you think is the best placement for the sub? Thank you!
Typically subwoofers are placed in the front on the room on the left or right. You can places subs in the back by the seating area but you may need to play with the phase switch, which is like a delay. If the sub is in the front leave the phase on 0 degrees. In the back, you can try 180 degrees and see if it sounds louder.
@@Upscaled_Reviews Thank you so much, appreciate the response; this was really helpful!
Hmm, okay, so if I just got 2 for my new theater once I get that set up. I should be good to go correct. Note: I will be using these with Klipsch rf-7 iii towers… and a set of Atmos in ceiling speakers…. I was originally considering going with the SVS pb-3000, but I will do some thinking before I actually take the subwoofer out of its box.
The pb3000s are better but they cost way more. I think if you take the time to eq these subs with a mini dsp, you could save a lot of money (See link in how to use the mini dsp). They will also match your towers better. th-cam.com/video/19pE_NJx6ZA/w-d-xo.html
Honestly, port placement doesn't mean much. If you want your sub tight against the wall, front facing ports are better. If you like your sub in a corner out from the wall around 12" or more then rear-facing ports are ideal. Me personally i like sealed boxes better because i favor tight accurate bass response for music. Right now im running a parts express spa-1000 watt plate amp with a 12" down firing kicker solo baric L75 in a sealed box that i built from ¾" MDF that i covers in cherry veneer to match our furniture. Hits pretty low for a sealed box. Because i cant leave anything alone im thinking about building another sealed box with a 15" passive radiator.
Really cool projects!
Im with you, sealed is better than ported on a musically standpoint. The sub just needs to move enough air for a sealed configuration.
You get what you pay for. At $350 don’t expect much. Unless you will only use it at low volumes occasionally. I had the Klipsch 115 sub which is 3 times the woofer as this and I had problems with the amp overheating and twice had to replace it. Klipsch has excellent customer service and does stand behind their product. They replaced the amp twice outside of warranty for free. But I would not buy Klipsch again. For those on a tight budget this will get you in the game as a starter, maybe for older folks that will not really drive it too much.
All valid points. Thanks for sharing!
Mine worked for about 4 hours of play time total. It’s getting power, but no sound.
That’s because it’s a killer sub.It killed itself !
I'm one of those "older folk", and I drive it like I stole it. If the windows are still intact, it 'ain't loud enough. I want a sub that will keep my heart pumping long after I'm dead. I want to show the world just how poorly the retirement home was built. I want to cause major structural damage.
@@jdlech If you have a newer sub within the last year or so then you have the new and improved amp. Klipsch discontinued the 115 amp and replaced with the 150. I switched to SVS 16 now and couldn’t be happier.
Nice video! I have this Klipsch Subwoofer. But I have seen the SVS PB 1000 Pro (the sealed one), is best for my small room. But all my speakers are Klipsch...do you think the SVS subwoofer will do a good match? Thanks
I mix and match SVS subwoofers all the time. Bass is bass. It’s much less important to match with your main speakers.
@@Upscaled_Reviews Cool, appreciate your response.
Fucken amazes me that in Canada this woofer retails for 150$ MORE than in the USA, even factoring in the exchange range. Americans, you guys do not realize how good you have it
.. And not just with electroncis, but with seemingly everything
I have heard of this. It's a bummer.
I got 2 and like them .but after hearing the pb2000 pro.im getting 2 of them and maybe putting these in the rear of the room ,to cancel any nulls
As long as you time align everything you should have a pretty sweet system!
That's interisting. I have 2 of these Klipsch to compliment my 2 PB2000 Pro's. I used a mini-dsp to calibrare all 4. I am satisfied. Not sure about my neighbors, however 😁
R12SW is M/Y 2014
but stilll great in 2023
Nice review however, You placed a sub that was not corrected in a corner of you room????? This will have a negative impact of the sub’s response. Also, ported enclosures doesn’t require as much power as a sealed enclosure therefore, you reduce the output significantly by trying to plug the port. Finally, the port should be further away from the wall than 9”.
First of all, I didn’t recommend plugging the port since it didn’t make a big impact on my curve. I just tested and measured it that way to see if I could make it sound less boomy. Also, I don’t think it’s very practical placing a subwoofer 12-16 inches in a room. I decided to test it how most people would set it up.
@@Upscaled_Reviews you have to understand that some people who generally look at this video or review videos in general will take what you say or recommend as the gospel. As a result will try to replicate what you are doing. I am only pointing out what I saw in the video. At the end of the day, it was still a nice review of a budget sub.
@@Morphz_Unlimited I hear you. If anyone reads this, don’t plug the port of the subwoofer.
We don't get to hear the test??? 😞
I have a 10'x16' room and have 2 of these. I can feel the bass and it's not even eq'd. I guess my next move will be to get a microphone and start using REW. Any recommendation for a microphone to use with REW?
I use the Minidsp Umik 1. www.minidsp.com/products/acoustic-measurement/umik-1
If your going to buy your first subwoofer is this one good?
I think it would be a great first sub.
@@Upscaled_Reviews thanks for replying and thank you for the review as well I’m definitely getting the sub
Is there a very noticeable difference between this and your SB2000?
The SB2000 play lower and aren't boomy at all. The Klipsch play louder though. That's why I suggested combining the Klipsch with a minidsp which would allow you to eq and dial then in.
@@Upscaled_Reviews gotcha. I have had this sub for about 5 years. I have a chance to buy 2 used sb2000 for $900 or buy a second Klipsch.
For your sock plug, does the cotton % matter? 😀
I don't think the material would matter but I didn't measure any difference other than the output dropped. Definitely go ahead and see if you like how it sounds though.
@@Upscaled_Reviews Thanks for the reply. I was just kidding though. Even if it works I don't think I would be allowed to hide my socks there. We lose enough socks already as it is.
Funny story I heard of those PB2000 on facebook from it's owner and it sounded like crapola. It was huffing and puffing and the bass sounded like garbage. I think it was the PB2000 it has the dual base ports in the front. Anyway, I wasn't impressed and don't think I would spend money on SVS to get that kind of bass.
How about the humming issue did you encounter it also?
I have experienced no humming whatsoever.
@@Upscaled_Reviews thanks Man
@@Upscaled_Reviews You've mention in your video about minidsp, can you talk about that more since I have R-12SW coming in and I might considering to use that if necessary. Thanks again!
@@ianpierce7366 Hi, I'm going to refer to this series of videos from another channel. He actually has used a minidsp in the past. th-cam.com/video/eRRr8xTmxVQ/w-d-xo.html
@@Upscaled_Reviews ok thanks Man
You Would be Lucky to get it for 229 Now...
Even at $229, it’s solid.
Good stuff. I just got the same one. With only one out put from my receiver, should I just connect my cable to the white (left) input of the subwoofer or should I get a "Y" adopter to plug into both (left and right) inputs of the Sub? What do you think the best settings in the rear are for a theater room size 12x18?
You just connect the one cable into the input that says lfe. Without a calibration microphone and software like REW, it would be hard to adjust the subwoofer but I can give a few pointers. I would place the sub where you want to put it, set the crossover knob to the max position, and set the gain to about 11-12 o’clock. Set the phase toggle at 0 degrees and listen to some bassy music or a very bass heavy movie. You can also use the pink noise that’s generated by your level control on your receiver. Get a good idea of how it sounds at 0 degrees. Than set it to 180 degrees and see if it sounds louder. If it sounds louder, leave it at 180. If it’s lower, leave it at 0 degrees.
@@Upscaled_Reviews ❤️👍🙏🙏🙏
Put the hamilton back on .
how should i setup two klipsch subwoofer
If your receiver has two subwoofer outs, run subwoofer cables (amzn.to/3oXBUs5) to each sub. If the receiver only has one out, you'll need a splitter (amzn.to/3sTgm0M). Then you run the two sub cables from the splitter to the subs.
Do not use both inputs on back of sub...use one line from sub output to LFE input...turn knob all the way to LFE...I recommend a Belden 1694A cable.
Now the Sw costs 315 🥲
Still $200 at Adorama. www.adorama.com/kpr12sw.html?
@@Upscaled_Reviews 229.00 Adorama ...