Accsoon SeeMo 4K - The best iPhone/ iPad camera monitor!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- This is a sponsored video of the superb Accsoon SeeMo 4K, which is a substantial improvement over the original model, which I made a video of 18 months ago. Now you can send a 4K signal into your iPhone or iPad, making the image so much better for monitoring, and you can record the 4K files for quick turnaround edits! Paired with an iPad mini, especially this is one HELL of a monitor!!
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Phillip is an absolute legend! He inspired me to transition from photography to videography back when the DSLR video boom happened. Always stoked to get new content from him.
Your sound in the videos (both nat sound and music) is consistently top notch. Appreciate this review, as always!
Bought it because of your review. Zero regrets. I added an arm onto my crane and a couple of Zhiyun Transmount quick releases so I can quickly remount the Seemo to the top of my camera if I want. My iPhone 15 Pro is now finally the extra bright, extra large monitor I was yearning for. Thanks Phillip!
I continue to be floored by your work, your reviews, your passion even amongst trivial things that all lead up to the same end result - to continue to make our work better by working smarter, faster, etc - Thank you again Mr Bloom!
It’s a good day when Mr. Philip Bloom upload a video
Amazing times we're living in! Great review!
Philip, one small question about touch tracking. After the latest firmware update of A7Siii the camera began to integrate much better with the MONITOR+ app! And the most surprising feature was that MONITOR+ app now shows the touch tracking box on a screen! And it makes touch tracking experience million times better! Perhaps you tried touch tracking on a SeeMo app + A7Siii after the firmware update? I'm just imagine how good it will be to track focus on a iPad mini screen with tracking box on a screen...
Have to check it out. We have those parrot wild here in Cologne also. I tie peanuts in a shell onto a long string and hangit over my balcony railing. Love watching them pull the string up to get to the peanuts. Thanks.
This is nuts, thanks for sharing!
Master in action . ❤
Ha! Just earlier today I was researching the SeeMo 4K. Wonderful video, as always. (can't wait for the BM Pyxis video!)
lovely video once again
I love the product. But I loved watching the video more. Great edit.
I'll wait for the Pro version of the SeeMo 4K. Silly that Atomos is now releasing a 1080p version.
A bit pointless and too expensive!
Yes need the sdi
Its genuinely wild how 5G is changing the way we can deliver dailies. Great video Philip
Interesting option, we are always carrying our phones so this might be more useful than the black magic monitor I have now that I don't use that often out shooting nature videos and really needs an external power supply for any extended work.
as long as you don't need your phone!
@@philipbloom that is true.
clever device for sure, thanks for the review here. Love seeing the improvements this company is making vs prev versions, and agree the interface looks great.
iPhones/iPads aren't famous for their sustained brightness outdoors on warmer days, you find any issues with device dimming after filming for a certain amount of time? If Accsoon has found a work-around for this, it would be impressive - esp now that this version charges the device (of which creates more heat ofc!)
thanks Philip and keep up the great work!
I wish they added SRT/HEVC to the Accsoon See app, but we'll see. Maybe in time. Also ProRes recording would be nice. That's currently not possible. (Yes, you'd need an iPhone Pro / ProMax / iPad Pro for that, but they should really add it for those)
Hi, the latest Accsoon SEE App supports SRT now.
@@ACCSOON Thank you. Must update and test again. That's great.
Great video phil, thanks!
Nice video and waiting for the insta360 x4 video next month as you said and by the way (Your hair looks cool as you are)
Would be nice to pair this with the new OLED Ipad Pros getting announced on May 7. The OLED colors and battery life of that combo will be unmatched especially when trying to keep the monitor lightweight
Great video once again. So informative. Would it not be cheaper and better if you just got the 7inch Atomos Ninja.
Cheaper than $179? This is really designed for people who’re already got iOS devices. This is also a monitor, a Ninja is a dedicated recorder and much bigger and heavier. Is there even a 7” Ninja?
Yeah I should have said l, when you add up the iPad and everything else.
They should do a baby between the see mo 4K and the nano to get the sharing to 4 devices on top of the see mo !
can you use this just as a field monitor to view ur camera on a bigger screen (or with a lut) or do u have to record to ur iphone with it? also is there a way to just get the app without the hardware?
The app only works with the hardware. You can download it for free though. 🤷🏻
This turned your iOS device into a monitor. The recording function is a side feature and far from the key part of it. If you want to use this on something bigger than the biggest iPad then no, this is the wrong device for you, instead just buy an HDMI cable for your screen of choice!
@@philipbloom Thanks!
Do you know of any apps where I could just plug in my phone but still access features like histograms and luts on my phone instead of just see what the camera sees.
If you are shooting in 4K 60FPS will you still be able to use it to view what you are shooting?
I have used this on my ipad 10.5, which is quite old at this point, but the loaded LUTs (Phantom LUTS) look atrocious on this screen when compared to other monitors. Have you also found this to be true? I wonder if the new ipads have some different form of color processing.
Pocket3 Will the next firmware update include photo shutter speed up to 25 seconds long? Also, internal Prores Raw video recording?
ProRes raw recording? 😂
You know this video is nothing to do with the Pocket 3 anyway?
Hi Philip, amazing stuff as usual. Do you mind sharing which cage do you use in the beginning of the video to mount that ipad? Thanks in advance.
Hi. The cage is by Accsoon and I talk about it in the video. Link is in description.
@@philipbloom hahah you caught me not finishing the video. I will do so. Thanks a ton!
Thanks, Philip. I am surprised you can't alter the camera settings. Have you tried the Monitor + app? Be interested to know your thoughts on how this compares.
Alter what camera settings? Monitor+ is good for camera control but the image is sub 720p and laggy.
@@philipbloom thanks, just been playing around with monitor +. Like the look of the accson 4k. Currently using the A7CR so this would be awesome for video and stills with the bigger screen. Thanks 👍👍
@@philipbloom Sorry Philip another quick question 😎 if I use playback on the camera to see the footage recorded on the camera does the monitor show this.? Iam assuming it does but I cant seem to find it anywhere or in any reviews. Thanks
I’m curious what parts you’re using to mount all this to your A1? Which cage, arms etc. Thanks!
Hi, great video. Just a quick question. After pressing the record button displayed on your monitor (iPad mini), where does the actual recordings, go to? Is it to your camera or to your iPad mini or both? Thanks.
The record in the app saves to the camera roll. It does not trigger the camera’s recording.
@philipbloom thank you for your swift response.. so basically, you would have to press record on camera if you wish to record to camera as well? And may I ask you if the iPad displays camera settings on screen or just the live view only? Thanks 😊
is a great review. The only problem is the max brightness on iPad mini is only 520nits. In California I need bright monitor, so prob wouldn't serve well here.
I addressed this in the video.
Hi Phillip. Do you know if it allows for us to use the full brightness capabilities of the iPhone? For example I have an iPhone 12 which states that when displaying hdr content can reach 1200 nits. Do we get this? Or do we just get the standard 625 nits?
I’ve no idea, sorry. Ask Accsoon on their video on their channel.
how to know if your connected in 5ghz or 2 ghz accsoon cineview 2? its just saying 2.4 + 5 ghz? how about if its only in 5ghz? or in solo band
If Accsoon is listening, anamorphic desqueeze factors of 0.5x, 0.65x, 0.75x would be helpful for monitoring vertical anamorphic. Smallhd offers those through a custom mode, though very pricey, and not in 4k:)
Yes, we will improve this soon.
Will you make a direct comparison to the new Atomos product they had at NAB 2024?
Nah. I don’t have one, it’s 1080p only and too expensive.
Accsoon seems to no longer produce their solution for Android phone. Do you know if that is correct?
Camera conspiracy said he loved your channel so if he thinks your great 👍 👌 new sub here.😊
Good info. Thank you. 🙏
Have you reviewed the latest Lumix cameras (S5IIX)? I'd love to see how you make those BRAW files shine. 😁
No, it's very much easy to check as I barely make one video a month! :)
@@philipbloom I did! I'm just surprised...seems like a feature rich camera with amazing image for $2k.
I guess, all I wondered is if you've used it or if you are excited to try it? 😄
Thanks for all the reviews and the work you do with cats. Big fan of you and the unique style of your content.
@@lfcruzsierra I can’t afford to buy cameras to review and Panasonic think I am too Sony to lend me one. 🤷🏻
Can I input audio to the device if my HDMI feed does not have audio?
there's only one input. Why does your HDMI feed not have audio?
Hey @PhillipBloom I only had the Seemo Pro 4K for a short time, but did you really notice a difference with the 4K recording? I think what happened to me was comparing an HD recording to the 4K recording, both captured from the Seemo 4K. Instead of comparing it to a recording from the original Seemo and Seemo Pro. Is it safe to assume that the similarity in sharpness and clarity is because the Seemo 4K is downsampling the 4K signal to create an HD recording? Which is much better than an HD recording from the original Seemo?
Which camera are you using and are have you manually set your camera to HD for HDMI out?
The only way to get an HD recording is to feed it HD otherwise it will always record 4K.
@@philipbloom It was a Panasonic GH6, and you are correct about the way the Seemo records. I’m starting to remember now. You can not set the resolution in the Seemo app. I set the camera to HD and recorded in app, and then 4K and recorder in app. And the recording looked very similar to me. Which is why I thought the hd might be downsampled.
@@philipbloom I checked again and I have recordings in UHD and HD from the Seemo 4k. All the files were renamed Accsoon by the Seemo app.
@@4sightfilmsLLC my 4K recordings definitely look better than my actual 1080p recordings from a 1080p signal.
CN you record to the iPad and to a sd card that’s in the camera?
@@bwfilms2090 yes of course. Please remember as I said in the video, the iPad / iPhone recordings are just low bitrate versions for social media really. Your recordings are in camera.
@@philipbloom thank you sooooo much!
what would the benefit to this be over the monitor and control app built by sony that is wireless?
Have you used that app? That’s for camera control. It’s a terrible monitoring tool. Low resolution, breaks up all the time and lag.
This is a monitor first and foremost. Think of like that.
Thanks :)
what are the live options
Can you use the Seemo with an external SSD?
@@zonilyjame0 why would you use the SeeMo with an external SSD?
@@philipbloom storage constraints haha. I’m only using a 256gb 15 Pro since I never considered this use case before
the files are TINY. You do understand these are not replacements for internal recordings? The SeeMo is not an external recorder. These are low quality files for using for things like social media.
Even if you still wanted to, you are connecting the SeeMo to the iPhone via the USB-C which means the port is taken up.
@@philipbloom ahhh damn, thanks for that info. I thought I could use the phone similar to the Ninja V or Yolobox.
One thing I’m currently doing is using my Samsung S23, an HD60s+, and the USB Camera Pro app to do this
This just seemed like a more lightweight option with a better, brighter phone screen haha
why do they make them so big and bulky. like i just want my iphone with nothing attached, Why is this so hard.
Can someone explain the market positioning then of the Accsoon SeeMo 4K vs the Atomos Ninja Phone?... the latter makes a big deal about being able to record ProRes but only in 1080p. Whereas the Accsoon SeeMo 4K can record 4K (obvs) but that seems to be a secondary feature... there's talk about using the recordings to send for quick 'turnaround edits'... is this where the quality of the footage that has been recorded by the Accsoon itself is going to be less than (lower framerate? less versatile codec?) than the camera itself - but in certain cases (news? social media?) that is less important.
If this does 4K and the Atomos doesn't... why does Atomos think we should still consider the Ninja Phone?
I do feel I’ve explained the SeeMo 4K very clearly in this video. It’s a super night quality monitor for iOS which does other things like I show, including recording low bit rate version for quick turnaround. I stated the bit rate of 20mbps, which is around a 1/10th or in camera quality. It’s not really for proxies either as the names won’t match.
The Ninja phone IS a recorder primarily but seems like an odd product as it’s 1080p max. It’s also more than twice the price. So what the point of these 1080p ProRes files on your phone? I am not sure. Proxy workflow perhaps? Quick turnaround for sure. I don’t understand the product. If it used the phone as a screen but could record to say CFexpress B in ProRes 4K in the actual ninja part that would be an interesting product. The problem is the Ninja V isn’t
about £200 more than the Ninja phone and records to SSD in up to 4K ProRe raw with a very good and bright HDR screen.
Please stop thinking of the SeeMo 4K as a recorder. It’s not. It can record but recorders are used to replace or being alongside internal recordings. The SeeMo 4k is what I’ve said in my replies and in this video.
Does this mean that the Atmos Ninja is now obsolete. ???
Awesome!!
@phillipbloom
But question : Can you also send your video feed to other phones or ipads using the accsoon app ?
No, it’s not a wireless transmitter. You should get the CineEye 2 and put that on your camera then you can send to 4 devices at the same time. It’s a different app, it’s the GO app.
They actually now also have the Cineview Nano, which looks more like the Seemo range, uses the same See app and just needs the HDMI connection as the iPhone connects over Wi-Fi instead of USB-C + even cheaper if recording not required … although latency might be too high for focus, etc.
@@27Righty latency is very good on it. About the same as a standard monitor.
@@philipbloom Do you mean on the Cineview Nano? I was considering the Seemo 4K as a monitor - I don’t really need streaming or recording, however assumed the latency would be lower with the USB connection.
@@27Rightythe latency is less on the SeeMo, a better image and other benefits as shown here. Nano has ability to transit to 4 devices and is cheaper.
I may be wrong but why isn’t anyone talking about how Blackmagic cameras now use USBc as a monitor output. The next logical step is using a phone plugged directly into to any new BMC as a monitor and more. I mean the black magic app could even control the system.
For now they need to sell viewfinders but give them 3 months and I bet that’s the play
What do you mean by “why isn’t anyone”? I’ve seen it mentioned in videos on the new cameras. Are you expecting dedicated videos about? Does anyone even have the cameras yet?
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Would be great if there were an Android version of this!
It’s pretty hard to make because of all the different hardware.
@@philipbloom I'd be fine if they left it at buyer beware. The 1080p versions of these seem to work just fine.
iPhone Ninja will kick this to the side, especially version 2.
“Especially version 2” do you realise how ridiculous a statement that is!
You should already know this but let me clarify for you as I feel you need a bit of help. The SeeMo 4K is NOT a recorder, I made that VERY clear in this video. It records 4K onto the phone for quick turnaround edits, this is a 4K MONITOR. The Ninja things is more than twice price and turns your iOS device into a 1080p ProRes recorder. Erm…great. What’s the point? If you need a recorder get the Ninja V, you can pick one up for not much more than the phone Ninja.
“Especially version 2” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@philipbloom wow, someone it's in a grouchy mood. Sorry to make you feel that way, I sure wish I was talking to the Phillip of 2005. Take care.
@@cylurian why 2005? I wasn’t even on TH-cam then! You made a silly comment and I addressed it. If you don’t like it then don’t write silly comments! 😂
Sorry if I was too strong, it’s just your “especially version 2” cracked me up! 😂😂😂
@@philipbloom Oh no worries. You are a wonderful person, love your content and commitment. When I was referring to 2005, I was referring about your film "If I Were Prime Minister". :)
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✅anamorphic desqueeze
✅charges phone
✅pinch to zoom
✅card reader
✅4K recording
✅steaming
🔳 no more “proprietary cable”?
For lightning there has to be. Not for usb-c.
Or at least can they sell different length replacement cables?
@@stevedoesnt they do I believe.
Hallo every body
Best monitor for Sony FX3(30) -> iPhone 15 Pro (MAX) + USB-C - USB-C + app Monitor + (20$)
Nope. The image quality is very poor, especially compared with this. Look at the quality of the image on the screen in this video!