Cobra Commander was egotistical and a maniac, but he understood his men and understood that none of them were perfect. Serpentor had a God complex and refused to see his troops for what they were.
@@thesailormercury2 except Megatron almost won the war against the autobots in his movie and killed nearly ALL the original autobot soldiers had it not been for Unicron he would of won
@@avalond1193 Megatron had the upper hand I believe he kept the autobots alive for entertainment he knew that if the autobots was totally destroyed the cons would start fighting each other
Marvel and DC comics and it’s cartoons, really did improve reading and writing skill set of its readers and audience. It made reading and certain words in general, fun. You learned without realizing you learned.
They assumed their audience wasn't retarded and treated them to a well developed story with complex themes, concepts and vocabulary that would suit anyone in the real world.
@@sabin97 Fun fact every Cobra Commander voice actor has always voiced at least 1 Starscream from transformers previously it’s basically mandatory for hasbro
This show was the epitome of fantastically verbose villain discourse with intelligent vocabulary by brilliant voice actors underscored by poignantly perfect music throughout.
I never paid it no mind back when I was kid watching the reruns in the late 80s/early 90s but looking at thirty years later as an adult, I appreciate it now.
Yeah but then in 1989 DIC was the company who did the animation and put new characters and disappeared some of the core ones and the soundtracks changed a lot and it sounded Like Trash
Cobra Commander was right at his Cobra-La trial. His troops lack courage. Serpentor ignored this and blame Cobra Commander, but they were still the same cowardly fools that used to follow Cobra Commander. In fact the major Cobras were worse, because they quickly realized they couldn't reason with Serpentor at all, thus following Serpentor into stupid attacks until their cowardice overrode their fear of Serpentor. Serpentor using CC as a scapegoat led him to ignore the fundamental problems with Cobra forces, their overall incompetency and cowardice. Thus Serpentor's leadership was self-sabotaged from almost the beginning.
I think that was the point - the Commander warned them but they ignored him and self-destructed Also Serpentor DID fail - he lost to Duke LOL in the beginning of the movie So man to man he failed
I always found this to be a weird development since Cobra Commander is the iconic villain, whenever you see a collage of 80s bad guys it’s always CC and never Serpentor.
Yea but they had to up the ante with bigger bad to get viewers to tune in ever week. All shows did it. Heck even Skeletor was shown to be a lacky to Hordak[sic] but you always see Skeletor in promos even if Sheera is shown.
Serprentor also had a really dumb costume. Cobra Commanders looked much more realistic and serviceable. Serprentor had that stupid head piece he wore and a dumb cape. LOL
Cobra's problem was that there was no unity, no discipline, or thorough planning. Cobra Commander sometimes actually came up with sound plans but didn't plan for the long game. When that didn't happen, everybody undermined each other.
I blame his subordinates who would quickly quarrel with one another even after he laid out a thorough plan. As he once complained: " My cubes....my Wonderful Cubes...all gone!! Aghhhhh....Now I'll never rule the world! I hate this job!!!"
Makes you appreciate the fact we learned more advanced vocabulary from a cartoon show from the 1980's rather then the content that's currently being offered in today's society.
Hell yeah they actually knew how to make compelling cartoons back then. Now days it seems like produces take inspiration from being high as a kite and just creating a cartoon based on their hallucinations or fever dreams
@@Tupapcu Tell me about it! It only makes it sad when you bring up the old Cartoons and you get the classic, “They where just made to sell toys!!”, meanwhile I am like, “Then can we *please go back to making cartoons just to sell toys like in the late 70s to early 90s?* At least then people knew how to write good stuff, hell I will buy a toy or two if we can get good stuff again!”
Honestly I hated Serpentor, he was a giant jerk, Cobra Commander was Charismatic and didn’t think he was actually perfect, Cobra Commander superior Serpentor inferior
It's a from bad to worse situation with these two. Both Serpentor and Cobra Commander were lacking leaders if you ask me. The only positive aspect of Serperntor is that he had more courage. Cobra Commander was just a a useless leader as Serpentor. Only the brilliant performance of his Voice Actor, Chris Latta made him more sympathetic than Serpie.
Another weakling, Cobra Commander lover. DIC'S cartoon was senseless, Serpentor couldn't be overpowered by a mere python. He made more sense as Cobra's leader than Cobra Commander cowardly behind. Serpentor had multiple DNA so how in the hell can a python overpower him if Sargeant Slaughter couldn't?
The DIC crew obviously hated Serpentor as much as most viewers did. He was supposed to have been killed at the end of the '87 movie but they brought him back just to have a much more humiliating ending for him. LOL
I always enjoyed watching G.I. Joe when I was a kid, but, until watching this video I never truly realized how advanced the dialogue was for this show! And the power struggle between Serpentor and Cobra Commander is far more entertaining to me now, than it ever was when I was a kid!
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Part of blame may lie in his DNA when Dr. Mindbender decided to substitute Sun-tzu's DNA with that of WWE Legend Sgt. Slaughter after he lost the genetic sample of said ancient Chinese strategist.
@@Phathom0 Serpentor had a code of honor as well. See the episode with that creature sent by CC to asssasinate him.He actually put his life into the line in order to save his subjects. His problem is that he lacked all other attributes that defines a great leader.
@@drixg555 I think it's implied that was TOTALLY to blame. Instead of having the patience of that lost DNA, he got Sgt.Slaughter's (steroids-filled) DNA, lol.
Nah Galvatron was smarter, plus we can blame Galvatrons fractured mental state on Unicron. Dude had a Mental Link with him where Galvatron was mentally tortured several times, and had it inadvertently severed when Unicron well….died? I guess? Even with the fractured mental state the dude was still dangerous as hell, plus he actually got better. Serpentor only got worse🤣
The problem with making a genetic leader from the conquerors and tyrants of history is you get their flaws in addition to their strengths. Some key faults were narcissism, poor long term planning, abusiveness, unrealistic goals, and ignoring his advisors. To create a better leader, you must first understand why they failed.
Yeah, even leaders such as Napoleon and Alexander the Great had faults to them which they'd admit to. Frankly, Cobra should've just picked one great conqueror of history and used their DNA to create Serpentor. I'd have used Napoleon as he was a military genius and a great emperor of France, they would just need to adjust his DNA to make Serpentor loyal to Cobra while keeping in mind Napoleon's faults and how to keep him in check.
Star Scream = Cobra Commander in blue Serpentor = Ultron GI Joe back in the day was awesome! I miss this show as well as the original transformers. But that line, “holding Washington is going to be hard but the entire United States!?! That’s impossible! I’ve tried!” I was rolling hahaha!!!!
Priceless lines from both. A true duel of large hams * "Your ego-driven stupidity has converted victory to catastrophe for the last time!" * "Your leadership has been pompous, pusillanimous and pathetic!" * "The first man who touches me will curse the day he was born!" * "Is there no one here who will have rid me of this self-satisfied vermin?"
As a kid, I always felt that the DIC series wasn't even in the same league as the Marvel Productions series, but I have to say, these Serpentor versus Cobra Commander scenes were pretty interesting. Makes me want to go back and give that series another chance.
@@manwhoooo Christ Latta is one of the greatest voice actors of all-time, no doubt about that. I'll check out that mini-series! Thanks. One thing I couldn't stand about the DIC series was the "got to get tough!" theme.
@@freddyvidz It was on there (Tubi) at one time, but it was removed at some point, don't know when. Hope it pops back on there. Wonder if it was a licensing related issue with whoever owns the DIC library? Some of their other toons have since been removed also.
@@josecarlosramolete6109 Unicron is more like Golobulus Yes Golobulus create Serpentor is Extremely like Unicron create Galvatron Am I Right For Ya?
The one redeeming Factor about the DIC GI Joe operation dragon fire is the fact that Cobra Commander got revenge Serpentor On a side note after serpentor became a thing it seems like we got to see more of the comedic side (as in Burns and jabs) of Chris Latta who after all was a stand-up comedian
As a child it was unique to see the power fight between Cobra Commander & Serpentor. It was a constant power fight within Cobra. Dr. Mindbebder and Destro were always cool with Serpentor but Serpentor didn't care for Cobra Commander at all, lol
This is priceless. I didn't know there was more episodes after Cobra Commander turned into a snake. In the GI Joe movie(don't remember the name), CC at the just disappeared. The same movie got stab in the chest trying to save his brother. As I remember, Serpentor lacked patience and humility. Dr. Mindbender was unable to get the DNA of Sun Tzu.
Bro I was just on TH-cam looking around. How’d you get me so invested in this to watch the whole thing? That’s some Serpentor brainwash shit if you ask me
You dare speak that way about Sepentor?!! You incompetent fool!! If it weren’t for you’re lack of focus and dedication, we would’ve defeated the Joes by now!!! Lol. Sorry I couldn’t help myself.
Serpentor was a lame blow hard. Back in the day, everybody loved Cobra Commander and seeing all the Cobra lackeys just accept Serpentor as their Lord was bad writing. You don't see anyone clamouring for Serpentor in a G.I.Joe movie/series these days do you?
Bad writing always when you fail to write a better story for replacing the current leadership. Serpentor was hated but his design or character look was good. His backstop was not written well. CC should have been given a loyal following, not been written so cowardly even in failure but the 80's writers tended to do that. Cobra should have split into two factions, CC and Mindbender/Serpentor loyalists. CC should have remain more mysterious and more stern, he wore a mask and had mystery surrounding him from inception. Never should have went down the cowardly path.
@@travismiller4320 The Movie in hindsight was a bad idea. The series could've lasted a couple more seasons. Since the COIL was shown in the comic, Maybe the Civil War would also happen at some point as well.
Growing in the eighties and watching GIJoe cartoon, dedicatedly (and some of the comics - which differed from the television series) since its inception; and collecting the figures, playing with them will always be a huge part of my life and Generation X.
IN the cartoon cobra commander was the typical cowardly villian but in comics he was far more deadlier. Especially idw version ^^ Shame haven't been any recent tv shows like with its transformers counterpart.
@@alluringming Snake Eyes movie then the Lady Jaye series coming to Amazon. After that I think they plan to do a slow burn on the characters, but I get what you mean now.
Sometimes I think HASBRO would of been better off going with their original vision for Serpentor being the supreme ruler of Cobra behind the scenes, with Cobra Commander being the one who lead the military forces. It just fits a little better in my head then "lets artificially create someone to boss us around". Sure before his creation the show had built up Cobra Commander as the only one in charge, but they could of just had it established the guy had such an ego that he enjoyed pitching himself as the only one in charge despite Serpentor being the power behind Cobra. If they had gone that way, they could also of given Serpentor the origin they retconed Cobra Commander having. As in, a member of Cobra La sent into the world to conquer it for the rest of his people. Cause it's very difficult to reconcile all those retcons from the movie with the prior seasons concerning the Commander.
Yeah - growing up during this era, the mid-80s had this "he's so evil, he abuses his own servants" phase. It somewhat started with the likes of Hordak and the Megatron/Starscream banter, but Galvatron and Serpentor brought it to a new level.
So this would be what it'd be like if Galvatron didn't kill Starscream, and kept him around instead. Because this is EXACTLY how I see their 'relationship' working out in G1 S03 if that were the case. Serpentor if clearly an unstable psychopath because he's an unobvious Frankenstein's Monster of genetic templates of histories greatest conquerors, and tyrants. Clearly Dr. Mindbender and his buddy scientist who worked on him didn't consider the possibility of mental instability from having so many genes make an amalgamation like this: if i'm right, then Serpentor clearly handled that kind of issue than Perfect Cell ever did, considering the guy's a raving, volatile lunatic who adopted Megatron's hobby of casual Cobra Commander/Starscream abuse. I mean, I know they were losing constantly even under the commander's reign, but it's not like Serpentor proved any better. I think they were better off with CC, and after the movie when the Commander disappeared for a time, the rest of Cobra started realizing it too: probably when he fulfilled the Galvatron role by turning all of THEM into his punching bags without CC around to take out his rage hormones via physical and verbal trouncing. It's basically a spiritual way of saying even Starscream could lead the Decepticons better than that psychotic lunatic, Galvatron (after the plasma baths broke his sanity) ever could - and that's sad, in a way.^^;
Serpentor was so mentally unstable that not even the 'CEO of the underworld' Lucifer herself tolerates him from his condescend traits; she'll simply have to turn that monster of a genetic creation into vinegar if he and Lucy ever met.
Quick question. Who called retreat the more? Cobra Commander? Of Megatron? Because once their plans went south. The call for retreat was always called out.
I’d say Cobra Commander more often just by dint of being in more episodes. And there were some G1 episodes where it was Optimus Prime calling the retreat and the Autobots were the ones running away.
This is actually really impressive the reflections on cobra commander's face as they walk by the statues and seeing it change on serpentor's face. That is way above a what was expected of a Saturday morning cartoon. 4:55
"Oh sure, that's it, blame ME. Never mind YOUR own Cowardice and Incompetence" One thing you can say about Cobra Commander. He isn't afraid to take responsibility for his mistakes, or remind others of theirs.
Serpentor was cool as a kid, but damn does he come off as one dimensional rewatching as an adult. His constant boasting gets annoying really quick. But his "Cobra-lalalalalalala-laaaaaaa" battle cry was hilarious.
I know Chris Latta is a national treasure, but it sounds like he's hardly doing anything when voicing Cobra Commander, compared to what he did in the movie intro.
Well Serpentor was flawed and Cobra Commander made a mistake by telling him to use him as a scapegoat when he should have told him to blame the others.
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Cobra Commander was egotistical and a maniac, but he understood his men and understood that none of them were perfect. Serpentor had a God complex and refused to see his troops for what they were.
so was Megatron .
@@thesailormercury2 except Megatron almost won the war against the autobots in his movie and killed nearly ALL the original autobot soldiers had it not been for Unicron he would of won
@@avalond1193 Megatron had the upper hand I believe he kept the autobots alive for entertainment he knew that if the autobots was totally destroyed the cons would start fighting each other
Serpentor having a god complex sounds like Donald Trump.
@@HB76558 Much as I loathe the Mad Mango, best ot not bring politics into this.
Shout out to G.I. Joe for teaching kids advanced vocabulary.
Yes. Especially transformers. Megatron himself used vocabulary that intrigued me
This and Shredder in the OG TMNT really got that SAT vocabulary up a notch.
Marvel and DC comics and it’s cartoons, really did improve reading and writing skill set of its readers and audience. It made reading and certain words in general, fun. You learned without realizing you learned.
@@alfreddreamer9097 you got to give credit to the voice actor of Serpentor. His voice is very regal and charismatic!
They assumed their audience wasn't retarded and treated them to a well developed story with complex themes, concepts and vocabulary that would suit anyone in the real world.
Starscream and Cobra Commander are both second to none...Chris Latta really made these characters memorable
RIP
CC is Starscream?
@@vinsunleaded900 both character voices were done by Chris Latta.
I feel bad for Cobra commander
@@vinsunleaded900 lol u cant tell.. its the EXACT voice for both
When Cobra Commander not only sounded like Starscream.. but took his position
were they voiced by the same actor?
even their inflections sound the same...
Same voice actor Chris Latta....
The more you know
@@moo-rob
that explains that.
they probably had the same composer as well.....some of the music was eerily similar....
@@sabin97 Fun fact every Cobra Commander voice actor has always voiced at least 1 Starscream from transformers previously it’s basically mandatory for hasbro
Music is from the transformers as well.
Alley Viper: "Thank you Sepentor. The honor is mine"
Cobra Commander: "tHaNk yOu sErPeNtOr. ThE hOnOr iS mInE"
This show was the epitome of fantastically verbose villain discourse with intelligent vocabulary by brilliant voice actors underscored by poignantly perfect music throughout.
You know, I never realized how great the soundtracks to hasbro cartoons really were. They perfectly capture each scene.
Yes indeed. The musical score was appropriate.. Thundercats was especially intense
I never paid it no mind back when I was kid watching the reruns in the late 80s/early 90s but looking at thirty years later as an adult, I appreciate it now.
Yeah but then in 1989 DIC was the company who did the animation and put new characters and disappeared some of the core ones and the soundtracks changed a lot and it sounded Like Trash
They used some of this playlist in Transformers G1 too.
My loyalty is with cobra commander! COBRA!!!
New Uniform, Cobra Commander!
At least Cobra Commander realized that holding DC or anything in the us is just about impossible
My loyalty to cobra commander will never waver
Cobra Commander was right at his Cobra-La trial. His troops lack courage. Serpentor ignored this and blame Cobra Commander, but they were still the same cowardly fools that used to follow Cobra Commander. In fact the major Cobras were worse, because they quickly realized they couldn't reason with Serpentor at all, thus following Serpentor into stupid attacks until their cowardice overrode their fear of Serpentor. Serpentor using CC as a scapegoat led him to ignore the fundamental problems with Cobra forces, their overall incompetency and cowardice. Thus Serpentor's leadership was self-sabotaged from almost the beginning.
Got it in the Nutshell!
And very fitting too I might add.
Like CC had said, "What about your own incompetence and cowardice?"
CC came up with the schemes. But it was those sociopaths who had to execute them.
Serpentor turned against my cobra commanderkins
I think that was the point - the Commander warned them but they ignored him and self-destructed
Also Serpentor DID fail - he lost to Duke LOL in the beginning of the movie
So man to man he failed
The good old days of Saturday and weekday morning cartoons.
Weekday afternoons too
GentleFist Infinity This came on weekday afternoons after school
@@christiansoldier77 in my country Guyana, it was broadcasted in the mornings via the USA network.
What the heck happened to that .
"I'm still open to negotiation" 😂😂😂 Classic G.I.Joe
Hail Cobra Commander! The great snake rules forever!
Rest in peace, Chris Latta and Dick Gautier.
I know Chris latta but never heard of dick Gautier?
@@robertonline6543 Dick Gautier was the voice of Serpentor.
The voice actors died?, that is so sad to hear they were great at those roles.
@@davidsloat1016 also the voice of Rodimus Prime on Transformers.
Those two had chemistry just like Peter Cullen and Frank Welker had chemistry.
4:58 I love how during this conversation Serpentor goes from talking normally to practically shouting for absolutely no reason.
You mean "practically shouting FOR NO REASON!"
Its the lack of DNA that made him unbalanced
@@darkthorpocomicknight7891 it was a bad substitute of DNA that we used and a Sargent Slaughter's DNA was too dangerous
The dialogue of Serpentor is full of conviction and narcissism. He speaks from the heart- so colorful!
I always found this to be a weird development since Cobra Commander is the iconic villain, whenever you see a collage of 80s bad guys it’s always CC and never Serpentor.
Never
GI JOE jumped the Shark 🦈 or 🐍 with Serpentor
Yea but they had to up the ante with bigger bad to get viewers to tune in ever week. All shows did it. Heck even Skeletor was shown to be a lacky to Hordak[sic] but you always see Skeletor in promos even if Sheera is shown.
Serprentor also had a really dumb costume. Cobra Commanders looked much more realistic and serviceable. Serprentor had that stupid head piece he wore and a dumb cape. LOL
@@JusNoBS420 I agree it was the 2nd dumbest cartoon move of the 80s...the first was killing optimis prime in the transformers movie
Some really good writing and plot twists for a kid's show!
TV certainly didn't treat kids like idiots in the 80s and 90s like they do now.
Cobra's problem was that there was no unity, no discipline, or thorough planning. Cobra Commander sometimes actually came up with sound plans but didn't plan for the long game. When that didn't happen, everybody undermined each other.
All that and oversell too. He should be more like RAS AL GHUL.
I blame his subordinates who would quickly quarrel with one another even after he laid out a thorough plan. As he once complained:
" My cubes....my Wonderful Cubes...all gone!! Aghhhhh....Now I'll never rule the world! I hate this job!!!"
Who was the leader? I forgot, was it Destro or Cobra Commander.
@@Mrd9960 Cobra Commander was the leader. Destro did take charge on many missions but was an arms dealer and usually fell into 2nd in command.
@@LowellLucasJr. ahh ok, I always thought as a kid growing up, that Destro was the big boss and cobra commander was the 2nd tier leader.
Makes you appreciate the fact we learned more advanced vocabulary from a cartoon show from the 1980's rather then the content that's currently being offered in today's society.
Shit was savage then, still savage now. Old toons waaaay doper than these new fruity toons.
Hell yeah they actually knew how to make compelling cartoons back then.
Now days it seems like produces take inspiration from being high as a kite and just creating a cartoon based on their hallucinations or fever dreams
@@Tupapcu 100%
That's a big ol fact. 👍
@@Tupapcu Tell me about it! It only makes it sad when you bring up the old Cartoons and you get the classic, “They where just made to sell toys!!”, meanwhile I am like, “Then can we *please go back to making cartoons just to sell toys like in the late 70s to early 90s?* At least then people knew how to write good stuff, hell I will buy a toy or two if we can get good stuff again!”
Yes!!
I like this season of GI JOE because it often focuses more on serpentor and Cobra Commander at each other's throats for the leadership of Cobra.
Honestly I hated Serpentor, he was a giant jerk, Cobra Commander was Charismatic and didn’t think he was actually perfect,
Cobra Commander superior Serpentor inferior
Serpentor was made from the dna of every tyrants and conquerors. Hence he's a massive jerk. Loved the part he got turned into an iguana😂
@@bagsikdangal had he had Sun Tzu's DNA, he wouldn't have been reckless.
It's a from bad to worse situation with these two. Both Serpentor and Cobra Commander were lacking leaders if you ask me. The only positive aspect of Serperntor is that he had more courage.
Cobra Commander was just a a useless leader as Serpentor. Only the brilliant performance of his Voice Actor, Chris Latta made him more sympathetic than Serpie.
Another weakling, Cobra Commander lover. DIC'S cartoon was senseless, Serpentor couldn't be overpowered by a mere python. He made more sense as Cobra's leader than Cobra Commander cowardly behind. Serpentor had multiple DNA so how in the hell can a python overpower him if Sargeant Slaughter couldn't?
@@sarahcarpenter2830 expect for the fact it’s in the name cobra commander
The DIC crew obviously hated Serpentor as much as most viewers did. He was supposed to have been killed at the end of the '87 movie but they brought him back just to have a much more humiliating ending for him. LOL
I always enjoyed watching G.I. Joe when I was a kid, but, until watching this video I never truly realized how advanced the dialogue was for this show! And the power struggle between Serpentor and Cobra Commander is far more entertaining to me now, than it ever was when I was a kid!
Man im now 44...45 soon. I watched this when I was in 2nd and 3rd grade... omg shit is still cool af.
Same turning 45 and this was my go to after school in tue 3rd grade.
Same - Amazing how I watched religiously every afternoon after school . It truly was a remarkable time to be alive .
Just turned 39, love gi joe, tmnt, transfomers, Gargoyles, Batman the animated series, Spider-Man the animated series, X-men, and so many cartoons. Duck tales, Tale Spin, Rescue Rangers
Same
Cobra Commander's scream is legendary.
Correct!
Because the voice actor of Cobra Commander also voiced STARSCREAM.
Serpentor was basically just Galvatron after he went mad.
He was worse, Galvatron still had cunning, and might, he even had a code of honor (albeit small one).
Part of blame may lie in his DNA when Dr. Mindbender decided to substitute Sun-tzu's DNA with that of WWE Legend Sgt. Slaughter after he lost the genetic sample of said ancient Chinese strategist.
@@Phathom0 Serpentor had a code of honor as well. See the episode with that creature sent by CC to asssasinate him.He actually put his life into the line in order to save his subjects.
His problem is that he lacked all other attributes that defines a great leader.
@@drixg555 I think it's implied that was TOTALLY to blame. Instead of having the patience of that lost DNA, he got Sgt.Slaughter's (steroids-filled) DNA, lol.
Nah Galvatron was smarter, plus we can blame Galvatrons fractured mental state on Unicron. Dude had a Mental Link with him where Galvatron was mentally tortured several times, and had it inadvertently severed when Unicron well….died? I guess?
Even with the fractured mental state the dude was still dangerous as hell, plus he actually got better. Serpentor only got worse🤣
Cobra Commander eventually got his revenge. Good for him.
Slow and slithery wins the race
Woo hoo!!
The problem with making a genetic leader from the conquerors and tyrants of history is you get their flaws in addition to their strengths. Some key faults were narcissism, poor long term planning, abusiveness, unrealistic goals, and ignoring his advisors. To create a better leader, you must first understand why they failed.
They also didn’t have Cobra commander dna.
They should try again to make a better leader.
The lack of Sun Tzu cost them greatly.
@@altarush They spent all the dna they had left on Serpentor. So they couldn´t try again.
Yeah, even leaders such as Napoleon and Alexander the Great had faults to them which they'd admit to. Frankly, Cobra should've just picked one great conqueror of history and used their DNA to create Serpentor. I'd have used Napoleon as he was a military genius and a great emperor of France, they would just need to adjust his DNA to make Serpentor loyal to Cobra while keeping in mind Napoleon's faults and how to keep him in check.
Star Scream = Cobra Commander in blue
Serpentor = Ultron
GI Joe back in the day was awesome! I miss this show as well as the original transformers.
But that line, “holding Washington is going to be hard but the entire United States!?! That’s impossible! I’ve tried!” I was rolling hahaha!!!!
Wait, who voice serpentor?
I would say Serpentor is more like Megatron.
Megatron = Serpentor
Star Scream = Cobra Commander
Soundwave = Destro
Shockwave = Dr Mindbander
I just think it’s hilarious how the twins helped him up, advised him to stfu, then immediately threw him under the bus.
The Twins knew which way the winds blew and they were survivors.
I liked the twins. They were fun to hate.
Night Viper, Baroness and Nagahide were his real friends all along
That was not the real Night Viper was a Joe undercover
Baroness was mad cause destro dumped her for zarana
@@chrisedwards3214 Really? Then that would explain why Baroness was against Destro when she rescued Cobra Commander.
@@girlgarde yes
The relationship between C.C. and Serpentor was truly a sick one.
Very much so tho
@@T-Bechilln Yep.
I like that Cobra always has infinite forces ready to attack at any time
Along with the most bada** vehicles and weapons,
I always wanted to see a backstory on their recruiting and logistics.
I remember many episodes where cobra was broke and struggling
The crimson guard and vipers is where it is at
Mercenary sell themselves pretty cheap at third world countries
The voice acting is pretty intense.
That's why we remember this show this plus transformers had the best voice acting in action.toons
Many episodes CC was betrayed the Baroness,destro,the twins, Zartan that cost him victory.
There were some betrayals he didn't even know about
CC was cowardly worm - but he did have some points in this when telling Serpentor he was in over his head invading the United States.
Lol
He said United Snakes🤣
And unlike someone else he got a great revamp
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You when Cobra Commander told Trump he as over his head, right?
All cobra were cowardly worms, but stupid is stupid. Commander had some discernment.
Priceless lines from both. A true duel of large hams
* "Your ego-driven stupidity has converted victory to catastrophe for the last time!"
* "Your leadership has been pompous, pusillanimous and pathetic!"
* "The first man who touches me will curse the day he was born!"
* "Is there no one here who will have rid me of this self-satisfied vermin?"
What was the word serpentor used before “little worm” at the 1:37 mark?
@@jlc6423 vociferous
@@qaisyasyabrina374 we don't say that around cobra commanderkins
@@qaisyasyabrina374 hey cobra commanderkins is not a worm now stop it
As a kid, I always felt that the DIC series wasn't even in the same league as the Marvel Productions series, but I have to say, these Serpentor versus Cobra Commander scenes were pretty interesting. Makes me want to go back and give that series another chance.
The DIC series does have it's moments - it mostly gets by on Chris Latta's charm tbh. But the opening mini-series is pretty fun.
@@manwhoooo Christ Latta is one of the greatest voice actors of all-time, no doubt about that. I'll check out that mini-series! Thanks. One thing I couldn't stand about the DIC series was the "got to get tough!" theme.
@@manwhoooo Operation: Dragonfire was the best. I just wonder why you cannot find it to stream. Tubi needs to add it or Amazon Prime.
@@freddyvidz It was on there (Tubi) at one time, but it was removed at some point, don't know when. Hope it pops back on there. Wonder if it was a licensing related issue with whoever owns the DIC library? Some of their other toons have since been removed also.
@@freddyvidz There's still an occasional good ep here and there. Like "I found you... Evy".
Cobra Commander is top tier with Mum-Ra and Gargamel. Just my opinion.
Yes sir got add SkEletoner Megatron general Savage frm Rambo da cartoon
Skeletor from He-Man
@@gabrielcabazos223
Starscream!!! is Cobra Commander…
Can we throw in Stay Puff from Ghostbusters also
This was the shit back in the day.
Serpentor you'll never be as awesome as Cobra Commander! For even now, he has The Shredder, Skeletor, Megatron, Monstar and Mumra on speed-dial!!!
The Ultimate villains as Serpentor has Hordak, Lord Dregg, Galvatron and Ratar-O is not awesome villains
Just shows how much BETTER these OG toons are. So much better. The.voice acting is full of passion.
man the animation for this show was incredibly good.
It really was
It was really was for 80s cartoons
Cobra Commander was the only one with the balls to stand up to Serpentor..
And knew he still would get back next season since he is one of the most memorable characters
I swear, Serpentor and Galvatron were the most pissed off evil leaders, the 80’s ever had to offer 😂😂😂😂
Serpentor was pissed but Galvatron was a damned psycho.
Starscream is Cobra Commander and Serpentor is Megatron because Serpentor abuse Cobra Commander like Megatron abuse Starscream
@@hakimzaaba7782
Serpentor is more like Galvatron.
Yes, Megatron did abuse Starscrean but NOT as extreme as Galvatron abused Cyclonus.
@@josecarlosramolete6109
So that means is Mindbender is more like Cyclonus? And Baroness is more like Starscream?
@@josecarlosramolete6109
Unicron is more like Golobulus
Yes Golobulus create Serpentor is Extremely like Unicron create Galvatron
Am I Right For Ya?
The one redeeming Factor about the DIC GI Joe operation dragon fire is the fact that Cobra Commander got revenge Serpentor
On a side note after serpentor became a thing it seems like we got to see more of the comedic side (as in Burns and jabs) of Chris Latta who after all was a stand-up comedian
Dudnt Know Chris Latta did stsnd up.
Didn't he go on Seinfeld as th guy at the OTB that was gonna rob Kramer on the train?
As a child it was unique to see the power fight between Cobra Commander & Serpentor. It was a constant power fight within Cobra. Dr. Mindbebder and Destro were always cool with Serpentor but Serpentor didn't care for Cobra Commander at all, lol
Of course he didn't and he paid the price
Finally someone posts this in bluray quality, thank you!
This is where I learned to call someone an insolent swine. Eternally grateful for GI JOE.
Simply the best cartoon ever best stories way ahead of his time every character had a story behind them music ridiculous the plot next level
This is priceless. I didn't know there was more episodes after Cobra Commander turned into a snake. In the GI Joe movie(don't remember the name), CC at the just disappeared. The same movie got stab in the chest trying to save his brother.
As I remember, Serpentor lacked patience and humility. Dr. Mindbender was unable to get the DNA of Sun Tzu.
This shit is priceless to watch
Cobra commanderkins was attacked by that jerk serpentor who was bullying him errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr😡!
Oh yes it does
@@T-Bechilln watch it that is my cobra commanderkins
Dame never say that bad word in front of my cobra commanderkins because you are acting like a Joe
@@sharanquiett9412 your damn right I’m team joe what’s up now don’t tell me your team cobra 🐍 lol 😂
I'm loving how Cobra is so quick to switch up on a Cobra Commander, no loyalty at all.
Well, they are the bad guys after all.
This week long special was bad ass back then when they had to gather all the parts to make serprentor. Very cool
Bro I was just on TH-cam looking around. How’d you get me so invested in this to watch the whole thing? That’s some Serpentor brainwash shit if you ask me
You dare speak that way about Sepentor?!! You incompetent fool!! If it weren’t for you’re lack of focus and dedication, we would’ve defeated the Joes by now!!! Lol. Sorry I couldn’t help myself.
@@alfreddreamer9097 I don't like how that idiot serpentor hurt cobra commanderkins
I never knew Cobra Commander became human again. For some reason I thought the series was over after the movie. It's been so long. This is cool thx!
Yea the start of the D.i.C. series is where they went through the process of turning him back
yeah he came back.. in this new SUIT..and a new TOY... which i had back then
He came back with Battle Armor. Figure released in 1987 series. But in the comic book, Battle Armor Cobra Commander was Fred (Crimson Guard).
Serpentor was a lame blow hard. Back in the day, everybody loved Cobra Commander and seeing all the Cobra lackeys just accept Serpentor as their Lord was bad writing. You don't see anyone clamouring for Serpentor in a G.I.Joe movie/series these days do you?
as a kid we all hated serpentor and loved CC
@@PopePlatinumBeats True enough buddy! That's why, as kids, we always wondered why the people in charge of the cartoon didn't get rid of Serpentor?
The literal point of him is to be hated lol
Cobra commander was my idol when I was a kid LOL 😂. I drew him on my desk in middle school.
Serpentor was boring and insane
Bad writing always when you fail to write a better story for replacing the current leadership. Serpentor was hated but his design or character look was good. His backstop was not written well. CC should have been given a loyal following, not been written so cowardly even in failure but the 80's writers tended to do that. Cobra should have split into two factions, CC and Mindbender/Serpentor loyalists. CC should have remain more mysterious and more stern, he wore a mask and had mystery surrounding him from inception. Never should have went down the cowardly path.
At once ….At once….Everything with him is at once 😂
There isn't much better than the colorful swear words of G.I. Joe.
Would've loved to seen Sunbow's season 3 storyline involving the Cobra Coil. Only if Hasbro didn't cut corners by hiring DIC it would've.
Would have loved to see some kind of COBRA civil war like the comics.
Buzz Dixon published a novelization of his Coil story - I believe it’s on Amazon.
@@travismiller4320 The Movie in hindsight was a bad idea. The series could've lasted a couple more seasons. Since the COIL was shown in the comic, Maybe the Civil War would also happen at some point as well.
Growing in the eighties and watching GIJoe cartoon, dedicatedly (and some of the comics - which differed from the television series) since its inception; and collecting the figures, playing with them will always be a huge part of my life and Generation X.
IN the cartoon cobra commander was the typical cowardly villian but in comics he was far more deadlier. Especially idw version ^^ Shame haven't been any recent tv shows like with its transformers counterpart.
No serpentor was the coward and he hurt my cobra commanderkins
Resolute and Renegades say different. Cobra Commander was nowhere near soft in either show.
@@Kriojinik i already know about those. I meant hasbro not making any new cartoon series or movies like their transformers counterpart.
@@alluringming Snake Eyes movie then the Lady Jaye series coming to Amazon. After that I think they plan to do a slow burn on the characters, but I get what you mean now.
@@Kriojinik you lie cobra commanderkins hates serpentor
GI Joe:*exists*
Serpentor: I’m offended
Seeing Cobra Commander get revenge against Serpentor was the only thing I liked about the DIC G.I. Joe series.
13:03 Combra commander is quite the grandiloquent fellow. "Pompous, Pusillanimous, Serpentor haha.
This made me remember my childhood.
Out of all the JI Joe movies I'm not watching right now, this is the one I want to see the most.
That's GI Joe, not JI.
Aww... when snake cobra commander snuggled the baroness’s face I thought that was so cute
Too bad Rodimus didn’t talk like that in Transformers, the voice actor had a gift
Well Dick Gautier did use that voice as Crygen and Pyre who formed Magnokor from Inhumanoids.
@@stainshield wow. Inhumanoids
Sometimes I think HASBRO would of been better off going with their original vision for Serpentor being the supreme ruler of Cobra behind the scenes, with Cobra Commander being the one who lead the military forces. It just fits a little better in my head then "lets artificially create someone to boss us around".
Sure before his creation the show had built up Cobra Commander as the only one in charge, but they could of just had it established the guy had such an ego that he enjoyed pitching himself as the only one in charge despite Serpentor being the power behind Cobra.
If they had gone that way, they could also of given Serpentor the origin they retconed Cobra Commander having. As in, a member of Cobra La sent into the world to conquer it for the rest of his people. Cause it's very difficult to reconcile all those retcons from the movie with the prior seasons concerning the Commander.
wait, that's some crazy facial hair shenanigans! serpentor's beard is going crazy back and forth in every frame hahaha
Serpentor was an idiot for being mean to my leader cobra commanderkins
He was turning into all the people he was created from as he walked near their pictures
@@B.Piercesports really??? hahah
Thank you for posting this. Cobra Commander’s story is awesome
Yeah - growing up during this era, the mid-80s had this "he's so evil, he abuses his own servants" phase. It somewhat started with the likes of Hordak and the Megatron/Starscream banter, but Galvatron and Serpentor brought it to a new level.
Wow at my desk and I watch that whole thing. Brings back good memories on Saturday and a bowl of cereal
When serpentor was walking by the statues where his faces were changing I really wanted to see his face change to sgt slaughter lol
Sgt Slaughter successfully broke the container that held his DNA, so they
couldn´t use it for Serpentor.
Cobra Commander > serpentor. And, it’s not even close.
I agree with you
4:28 as a kid, I thought Zartan was Ultimate Warrior from WWE.
Lol
Lol, that's awesome
So this would be what it'd be like if Galvatron didn't kill Starscream, and kept him around instead. Because this is EXACTLY how I see their 'relationship' working out in G1 S03 if that were the case. Serpentor if clearly an unstable psychopath because he's an unobvious Frankenstein's Monster of genetic templates of histories greatest conquerors, and tyrants. Clearly Dr. Mindbender and his buddy scientist who worked on him didn't consider the possibility of mental instability from having so many genes make an amalgamation like this: if i'm right, then Serpentor clearly handled that kind of issue than Perfect Cell ever did, considering the guy's a raving, volatile lunatic who adopted Megatron's hobby of casual Cobra Commander/Starscream abuse. I mean, I know they were losing constantly even under the commander's reign, but it's not like Serpentor proved any better. I think they were better off with CC, and after the movie when the Commander disappeared for a time, the rest of Cobra started realizing it too: probably when he fulfilled the Galvatron role by turning all of THEM into his punching bags without CC around to take out his rage hormones via physical and verbal trouncing.
It's basically a spiritual way of saying even Starscream could lead the Decepticons better than that psychotic lunatic, Galvatron (after the plasma baths broke his sanity) ever could - and that's sad, in a way.^^;
Serpentor was so mentally unstable that not even the 'CEO of the underworld' Lucifer herself tolerates him from his condescend traits; she'll simply have to turn that monster of a genetic creation into vinegar if he and Lucy ever met.
Cobra commanderkins is the rightful leader not serpentor
@@RDSyafriyar *HERSELF?* I think you mean *HIMSELF.*
@@stephenbyrne2170 I might bet you're a little mistaken. Here's the Lucifer I'm talking about: villains.fandom.com/wiki/Lucifer_(Helltaker)
@@RDSyafriyar Oh. That Lucifer.
greatest 80s toy/cartoon villains: cobra commander, skeletor, megatron, gargamel
Lotor(Voltron), Destro, Mum-Ra
Cobra Commander came back with a "no sh!t" policy after what happened to him.
Cobra commander never failed cobra
Truth !
Agree. COBRA!
@@dencamp6685 cobra !
Serpentor got what he deserved. Period.
@@Venedict77 correct
Cobra Commander did look badass with the cape and staff
The voice actors were amazing in these cartoons
It’s crazy how Serpentor speaks to Cobra Commander like they’re cool, but then just snaps on him!
Serpentor would've been a formidable foe if he didn't have Sgt. Slaughter's DNA.
Actually he didn´t. Sgt Slaughter succesfully destroyed the vial with his DNA before they used it on Serpentor.
Quick question. Who called retreat the more? Cobra Commander? Of Megatron? Because once their plans went south. The call for retreat was always called out.
I’d say Cobra Commander more often just by dint of being in more episodes. And there were some G1 episodes where it was Optimus Prime calling the retreat and the Autobots were the ones running away.
@@ThorOdinson Megatron definitely had a higher friendly fire count
This is actually really impressive the reflections on cobra commander's face as they walk by the statues and seeing it change on serpentor's face.
That is way above a what was expected of a Saturday morning cartoon. 4:55
Was going to com!ent on that. Don't think I noticed that detail as a kid, bit it's nice.
How do you skip turning him into a snake that was epic!
Classic G.I. Joe!
"Oh sure, that's it, blame ME. Never mind YOUR own Cowardice and Incompetence"
One thing you can say about Cobra Commander. He isn't afraid to take responsibility for his mistakes, or remind others of theirs.
Operation Dragonfire was literally the only good episodes of the DIC series. lol.
Yep. And it went to Hell afterwards.
Yep and you cannot find it anywhere to stream.
@@freddyvidz both sunbow and dic Gijoe is on Tubi free to stream. Every episode made including both 5 part miniseries
@@dean4125 Not Dragonfire. Trust me, I have checked. It may be in your area, but it isn't in mine. Tubi doesn't even have DiC version anymore.
@@freddyvidz they must have removed it I haven't watched tubi since last year. Last time I was on they had everything.
Serpentor was never used properly in this cartoon. Dude should have been an ultimate strategists and fighter
I agree. They made him mostly bluster and little else.
Serpentor was a terrible roommate! I feel for cobra commander!
I feel for cobra commanderkins too
Serpentor caused a lot of trouble and hurting 6 cobra agents
G.I JOE NINJA TURTLES AND POWER RANGERS ARE MY ALL TIME FAVORITE.
I would love to see how the Resolute Cobra Commander would've dealt with Serpentor
With as bad ass as Resolute Cobra Commander was, Mindbender would have been too shit scared to create Serpentor.
@@johnwade7963 it should have been Mindbender not Bludd murdered at the beginning of Resolute
If there had been a Resolute CC taking on a Resolute Serpentor it would've been a bloodbath.
@@Harrison0411 that's why I wish this could have become a full series. It would have been something
@@johnwade7963 amen to that.
3:35 So here, cobra commander actually BECOMES Starscream.
Serpentor was cool as a kid, but damn does he come off as one dimensional rewatching as an adult. His constant boasting gets annoying really quick. But his "Cobra-lalalalalalala-laaaaaaa" battle cry was hilarious.
i remember as a kid we use to laugh when he said Cobra LA LA LA LA it sounded so stupid
hilariously epic. Hat's off to that voice actor(Rodimus Prime).
Zero 8880 you liar serpentor was not cool at all
The one part with the flame thrower where cobra Commander is like. BRO U NEED ME TO BLAME SHIT ON and serpentor is like yeah u right got in the jet
All that talk and he didn’t accomplish anything.
He might had the DNA of conquerors but not their drive, Daniel.
I know Chris Latta is a national treasure, but it sounds like he's hardly doing anything when voicing Cobra Commander, compared to what he did in the movie intro.
Well Serpentor was flawed and Cobra Commander made a mistake by telling him to use him as a scapegoat when he should have told him to blame the others.
"Doctor Mindbender should have put the Saxon King Harald 🤴 Bluetooth's DNA inside Serpentor."