Learning To Land A Plane Is NOT Easy| PA28
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ม.ค. 2025
- Landing. We've all been through tough times when it comes to landing. Either we flare too high, or don't flare enough, and I'm sure we've all had more go arounds than we care to admit. Landing is the most difficult part of flying, but also the most rewarding.
Jose is just starting to understand how to land an aircraft, albeit with little lapses in concentration here and there!
Enjoy the flight!
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I dig your teaching style. Encourage the guy but correct the mistakes at the same time. It’s top notch.
my thoughts too! I just kept thinking - man, I wish that dude was my instructor!
Yeah, these last couple videos as I finish my instrument rating are definitely giving me some motivation to keep going to CFI and CFII.
That’s what’s known as the Dale Carnegie sandwich.
100% I thought this dude was a fussy SOB CFI, but he's good.
Great instructor, you are very calm, encouraging and thoughtful with your comments to the student. An instructor does not need to carry on like he is instructing in top gun to get his point across.
Jamie Mann And that’s the problem I had when I was training. Too many instructors that made me feel uncomfortable and apprehensive. Thanks for your kind words!
The most important thing about learning to land in my opinion is learning to relax, the second I realised this my landings became a lot better and a lot more consistent, half the battle is learning to ease the death grip on the yoke, not over controlling and letting the aircraft sink into the runway
Jamie Mann 400% agreed
Absolutely. Very comfortable teaching style. Excellent.
I agree! Just the right amount of challenging him (do you feel high or low?), reminding him (easy on the power changes), keepin it real (we don’t wanna go into the trees there mate yah?) and encouragement (many examples). He knows right when to step in to handle for instance the call to the tower, knowing the pilot is kind of in a groove and could benefit from not having that distraction one time.. just everything mate, what a great video, great instructor, and very smooth flying, well done y’all 👍
Man took me A LOT of hours to nail these landings. Finally about to solo! Wish me luck!
Dont crash and burn. Please reply so I know you didn't crash and burn it has been 7 months
HE CRASHED AND BURNED
Sorry boys, not looking good.
Same Francis
10 months... time to say goodbye 😭
If you fly, you get tunnel vision looking into your wallet. The condition is called Financial Disorientation!
Coast To Coast Aviation hahaha think we can all relate to that!
haha so true
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Coast To Coast Aviation 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think that would have caused many accidents.
Bravo. An instructor who knows the 3 pillars of coaching - feedback on skill, encourage motivation and build confidence. And celtic to boot.
Thank you!
My first 10 landings were so smooth, I thought I was a boss.
My 11th landing, I porpoised down the runway like a rubber ball. Reality check.
Similar here - one two, three times landing fee according to the tower on air
Lolz, I did the same. I think my CFI even had me land the airplane on my very first flight, after I had demonstrated some proficiency during the flight. Nailed all the landings, including some 2-3 hour flights of nothing more than traffic pattern and touch and goes. Thought I had it totally nailed until I encountered a windy day. My mind was so bogged down executing the proper slip to keep forward motion along the centerline of the runway that I got anxious and flaired too early - dropped out of the sky and landed HARD. Ego took a pretty big hit. CFI said it wasn't "that bad", but damn, it was hard to get past that.
CFI here, if you're porpoising or ballooning, try holding your flair and let airspeed bleed off. You should touch down gently. Remember treat every landing like a soft field landing.
I always hit the centerline...
...sometimes much harder than I want to though.
E Richert haha
Haha haha good one
@@Rainman63x LOL
Wow, from what I could see you are absolutely the kind of instructor I‘d want to have on my first flights!
Thanks for the kind words!
@@LewDixAviation where is the school location
I teach newbies in a different field but it’s nice to see someone who is a natural at it. You have talent for it. I hope you always teach!
takl23 haha thanks for the kind words!
The way the instructor interacts with the student is just amazing. I like his personality.
Thank you!
Wow, wish every teacher was as calm, understanding and encouraging. Most teachers get pissed off when you don't know something.
The best tip I've ever seen to improve my landings I saw on a Rod Machado video. Basically, you look straight down the runway, and flare just as the runway suddenly becomes much wider in your field of view. The runway steadily grows in front of you but there's a moment where it suddenly grows much faster, and that's what you're looking for. I've found that massively helps me with timing my flares.
Still don't get it right all the time, though. :)
I wonder with today' technology having a camera on the wheels would help in good flare timing and smoother landings.
@@amitkp6957 Yeah but I feel like with a camera by the wheels the pilot would be so focused on that video screen that he or she wouldn't be paying attention to other problems such as runway obstructions or how much runway length is left etc...
I repeat from a previous comment... "What a first class instructor" Anyone could learn to fly with your style and encouragement.
Thank you!
Great instructor, one of those who really likes to share and be proud of the cadet. Keeps the trainee calm and stable. Congrats, both.
I absolutely LOVE your teaching personality. Making students comfortable isnt always easy to do. You seem to nail it.
I'm an expat living in Costa Rica who started training for my PPL up in L.A. a few months ago, with the intention of continuing training down here. However, this guy's such a great CFI I'm half tempted to take a 6 month vaycay to The Island instead...excellent instructor with great communication skills - all the ingredients that make an effective teacher.
What a fantastic instructor...!! Patient, switched on, relaxed.. and puts himself in the shoes of the trying student
Brings back some feelings of... "Can't believe they're letting me try this!"
Pull back on the throttle... back... back... you're other back!!!
If you can walk away from a landing, it's a good landing. If you can use the airplane the next day, it's an outstanding landing.
Great instructor and great attitude from the student in taking constructive criticism. Really respect the Socratic approach from the instructor. Outstanding way to teach.
Yup , listen to what he said : “ eyes to the end of the runway “- “ hold That nose to the end of the runway “ Power for altitude , pitch for airspeed . I tend to trim the plane for landing . I love the Cherokee . It’s a low wing and very gentle in stalls . Flight training is super expensive . I’m still paying off my student loans for flight training ...
I've watched a great deal of flying videos and spent quite a bit of time in PC simulators but I can still see myself getting quite tense doing what this young man just did with his landings. He will get more and more confident and it will come natural to him over time. Just so he doesn't get so relaxed that he forgets his good training. Good for him and you're a great teacher, my friend. Thanks for sharing.
This guy is me. This is exactly how I feel on the radios. I have to practice what I am going to say, say it, and then when I push the button, I get all flustered and it takes forever to get everything out in proper order. Then I usually add something incorrect like direction, or which leg in the pattern or runway number etc. My radio calls involve sometimes a couple of transmissions to get it all right. I totally feel for this guy and understand. Great Video! This is exactly what flight training feels like.
We’ve all been there man.. I’ll be honest and say that I STILL take a couple of seconds to gather myself before my initial transmissions, and now that I’m starting at an airline I’m sure I’ll have a few funny hiccups.. It’s all part of the process.. Repetition is the key.. Practice makes perfect
ATC understands, just make sure you repeat instructions back, and end with your hull number.
Those first few lessons are so tough because your mind is just incredibly overwhelmed by everything that is going on. I remember my first flight, I felt like I was flying by the seat of my pants, being the first time experiencing flight like that in a small plane, having lived my entire life on the ground, but also being the one who is having to fly the plane. You sir, are an awesome instructor, and are, I believe, the bar that all instructors should aim to be at. Great video, I'm definitely subbing to your channel!
Great instructor with great humor..
Most of the time, how you land is a good indicator of a pilot's skill. Lewdix you as an instructor possess the technical knowledge required to offer an effective learning experience. I am currently a student pilot in South Africa flying the Cherokee 180. You made this easy to understand and it’s 4 years later, Cheers!!!
Yet again, loved it! Would be privaliged to have you as an instructor.
The MicroPilot thank you!
Agreed, great instruction! 😎👍🏻
@LewDix Aviation - I have spent many hours teaching other skills. I've just starting learning to fly. You sir, are an excellent instructor. Thanks for the vid!
I was taught and I practice rounding off the base to final turn. It is by far the safest way to fly a pattern. Not only does it shallow up the most dangerious turn a pilot can make, but it also increases visibility of any "phantom" traffic on final.
Very nice, Lew. That's how you teach someone how to land. Well done, sir.
Austin Pilot agreed!
Your positivity is infectious. Nice to see that a plane does not go all out of control in a heartbeat like I thought they would. Very reassuring!
I had a student 40 yeqrs ago who bought a nice Cherokee. He was frustrated becase as a successful heavy equipment owner/operator he couldn't understand why he couldn't teach himself to land.
A little instructor technique and a new pair of glasses sealed his great landings. Flying is obviously three dimensional. It was his mind-set that raised his frustrations due to his ability to teach himself on ground equipment. He later bought a Cheyenn-II, and flew it until he retired at age 80.
Excellent instructor. [ 1. Does not over-talk. 2. Has a sense of humour. 3. Praises when praise is due, does not destroy with negative comments. 4. His demonstration is crystal clear and with minimum talking. 5. Is patient. ] ----- A lot of overbearing, over-talkative, aggressive instructors who make quite well-known youtube videos really should come here and learn how to do it. The most common flaw I see time and time again is talking too much, and being over-analytical in the early stages. You need to communicate salient information. Best instructor I ever had said very few words, so those he did say counted. He was also a pleasant fellow. The moment an instructor shouts or makes withering comments is the time to change instructors. It makes a huge difference and can reduce your PPL expenditure by a big margin.
Which youtubers are aggressive?
@@Notinserviceij I'm not naming names. Some of them are good pilots, but not very good instructors. Of course it is a subjective judgement. By "aggressive" I do not mean bad tempered.
Absolutely correct!!!
New pilot here. Enjoy your style and your content. You have a new fan, the flare point is the toughest part to find in the beginning.
Randy Blazina hey Randy I’m glad you’ve become a fan of the channel! Welcome my friend!
Nice one man..... top notch instructions. Welldone sir. I wanna be like you when I grow up...
The "power back" was confusing. I immediately thought you wanted him to bring the power back after reducing it, as in increase power. Nice video, I learned a lot. Great trainer.
I hung up my headset some years ago. Flew around the uk with a few trips into Europe and survived a couple of enginge failures. Love seeing these vids and anticipating what needs to be done. I had three great instructors at Blackpool, Teeside and Carlisle.I soloed after about 7 hours and loved the circuit. However straight and level in Tomahawk was always a challenge. Safe flying.
This video reminds me of the things i say to my students all the time. We instruct very similarly.
Great instructor. Positive reinforcement is key.
I'm very glad to hear you say that Landing is the hardest part to learn. That is encouraging.
It really is. You’ll spend your whole career trying to perfect them. I’m still trying and I’m an ATP rated airline pilot currently training on a new aircraft and I’m landing like I’ve never flown before. You’ll get people telling you (there’s some in these comment sections) that they land the plane easily first time and every time, and that they’re gods gift to the aviation community... that’s all a load of rubbish. Nobody lands perfectly every time. One time in the pattern you could have a calm wind and land well and the next time around there could be a crosswind and you have to change your technique completely. It’s the most difficult part of training and flying in general
I've been watching your videos for about 2 years now. From the beginning they've been a huge inspiration and I always learned something from them.
I got my CFI 2 weeks ago, and I just learned a couple of things about teaching technique from this video, so thank you! 🙏
Nacho Soto Fantastic man, congrats on your CFI! So glad you can take something away from the video! Thanks for your support
I enjoyed watching this lesson a lot...good explanation and encouragement, keeping the student on task and able to learn. That's some good teaching right there!
Thanks man!
This video makes me wanting to sign up for flight training...
Took me back to Black Bush learning in 1973 in a Cherokee ,landing was the hardest part my instructor always told me to just fly down the run way ,I always had problems actually centering the air craft to the run way but hey minimal. I loved it every minute .
Nice video of a typical student experience in learning to land. I generally teach a student to look not at the end of the runway, but at a spot at which their is no apparent motion of the runway. This keeps the frame of reference constant regardless of the runway length. I applaud the instructor's support and motivation for the student. Excellent job.
pilotgil Thanks Gil! Appreciate the kind words!
Great video mate. I’ve got about 10 hours in a Cessna 172 and everything you went over is exactly what I’ve been experiencing lately.
I'm a student pilot and I'm 63 years old my CFI is super hyper and micro manages teaching me which is aggravating he basically get upset and act aggravated at me not totally understanding what's going on I've only got 11.9 hours need to make a decision about a change I really like your teaching style of being patient and helpful and talking to you student like a friend and understanding they don't know what you know
Did you change instructors? My first instructor just got cross when I didn't immediately do something right. It took me a while to realise how stressed this made me. My friend persuaded me to change instructors. I had the greatest good fortune to be paired with a very experienced, incredibly patient guy. He ironed out the stress, started teaching me in a way I could handle and slowly made me into a pilot in command. The last couple of months of training my confidence grew enormously thanks to his attitude. I got my licence earlier this year. I hope you found the right instructor!
Here is what I think makes you such a great instructor: You do an awesome job of putting your students at ease. You make them laugh and you support their confidence with what they do well. Seriously, great job on your part. I just need you to take some time off from FL and come up to Atlanta and be my instructor for my IFR. I'm now a patron...
bsinger339 I just saw you became a patron. Thank you for your support! It really means a lot to me man. I appreciate that you see what I’m trying to do as an instructor. I was made to feel very lonely in the cockpit a lot of times when I was training, and I never want that to be the case for my students. Flying has to be fun! Thanks again brother! Welcome to the LDA Family
Thanks for this video. I was stuck on landings and not getting anywhere. Your description of tunnel vision sums up exactly what I was doing / going through. I'm back in the air this weekend after a years gap and hopefully this will help
Definitely looking forward to learning how to land but still nervous about it at the same time.
Would be a great privilege to have you as an instructor
I love the way you are so encouraging with your directions
Everything I look for in a teacher or instructor
Thank you!
My landings are shocking. Can fly circuits perfectly but then i always end up half way down the runway off centre line. Nice to see alot of people have a similar problem haha
Stewie935 Knowing and defining the problem is the beginning of wisdom, and how to change things for the better!
Me too 😩 and my my instructor keeps shouting me 🤦🏻♀️😩
@@timicaharris probably carrying too much speed and floating. Also if your instructor is literally YELLING at you maybe you need a new instructor that can stay calm and instruct at your pace.
@@timicaharris ... New instructor time
Excellent and patient instruction. You, my friend, fall in to the minority of CFIs that are truly talented at teaching
That’s very kind of you to say, thank you very much!
I agree.....super instructor
very good instructor. motivating and able to encourage the student and make him want to outdo himself. well done
Oh, all my students perform better than me at some point! Thank you for your kind words.
I feel for you. At 7 hours instruction I was ready to quit. My instructor said if I did he would never let me forget it. Once you see the picture on landing you never forget it. I soloed at 12 hours!
That’s what I like in an instructor! Cool and collected, didn’t feel a need to freak out on the student. My instructor for my private pilot reminds me a lot of you and I loved learning with him. Great pilot.. my new one for Instrument.. let’s just say they fly the plane more than I do
Pounds J wow.. He flies more than you do? That’s not right man haha.. But thanks for the kind words! Much appreciated
I like this guy most training people on TH-cam already know every thing from flight sim this guy gives us the accurate experience
@LewDix Aviation - you are so calm and encouraging. I like the way you explain and demonstrate. Great video - nice gimbal!
Ben Davis thanks a lot Ben! Much appreciated. The gimbal is partly down to you too my friend! Thank you!
Solid. I can see the student confusing "power back" with "put the power [back in]" or something like that. Easy to misinterpret for a new student! I'm learning a lot about teaching from your videos!
Yea man, upon reflection from this video, it may have been better to say “power idle” than “power back”. I’ve never had anyone else confuse that, but everyone is different and as a CFI you have to be adaptable. Glad you’re enjoying my videos!
Someone love his job ! Awesome instructions
I'm about 6-7hrs in a PA28 and the landings are so frustrating right now. I'm sure they will come in time but right now it's super aggravating!
What a nice instructor !! Keep going like this
What a great instructor lots of encouragement and good direction. Good work
Thank you!
I liked the way you are very laid back and trusting of The aspiring young pilot. Reminds me of my first instructor.. great job!
Midnight_run22 thanks Midnight!
Great instruction! I remember learning to land just a few years ago and how difficult the concept was to grasp as far as using your hands and feet to stay on centerline. Once it clicked, I became a lot more confident! Congrats to your student!
Sean Booher Thanks man and thanks for the insight into your experience.. Landing is really hard at first. Once you get your head around it, it all clicks like you say
7:04 yep that is how to nail landings ..the end of the runway becomes an artificial horizon instrument outside the aircraft ..so to speak. Very easy to see if the nose is going up or down that way.
Love these videos. I'm in CFI checkride prep mode right now
Watching you two gave me life. Great instructor.
Thank you!
I learned to fly at a small ...really small airport. Mainly cuz it was cheaper than then the really BIG airport. The short final was often over the roof a barn near the end of 09. Then the first leg of my first dual cross country took me to a mid sized international airport about a hundred fifty miles away. I'll always remember how, on final approach, that runway kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger until it didn't look like a runway at all but more like the massive concrete parking lot of a Quigly Wiggly!!!
I can relate to this. I remember pulling the nose up on the approach A LOT. Took me around 30ish hours to get it right.
Ha.ha, me too. I still hear my instructor saying 'don't raise the nose' 😅. I got it eventually and am pretty consistent now.
This guy is the perfecy instructor that we allll need...
I remember my time as a student. Looking back, I think I scared my instructor more than I scared myself, but this video made me realize how much of a klutz I was. I love it.
haha we've all had days that we've made our instructor rethink his life choices. It happens! More often that you think haha
Teaching style is amazing - love it
Thanks, my brother, pilot, fainted during the flight, I watched this video and downloaded the a380 superjumbo plane. Thank you for saving my life.
Just found and subscribed to your channel. You have a great teaching style! Very friendly and supportive.
Thank you!
This takes me back to my first couple of flight lessons, you seem to have a passion for teaching, keep up the good work!
I later learned a trick to landing. When I flare I look at the Vertical Speed Indicator. I pull the nose up and down aim for -300 fpm but not more! Landing is kind of tricky. I admit my first few landings not the best. Landed too hard or other times I bounced. embarrassing. Instructor told me "don't worry about it Bill. It takes practice. Any pilot tells you all his landings were perfect is lying".
Nice tip and thanks for sharing your story, I think it really helps motivate people.
You both did a great job.
You're one good instructor Sir. Congratulations and safe skies!!!
Thank you!
What a great flight instructor!!!
As a CFI that teaches in Archers - tell him to grab the throttle from below the handle, with just his thumb on the handle and fingers around the stick part. Gives you finer control over it. This little trick fixed most of my students' overcontrolling issues with the power.
I am also learning to fly in a PA28. My instructor gave me a tip of adjusting the throttle from the bottom of the stick rather than my hand on top of it. It allows for a more precise adjustment on the approach. Also looks like he suffers from the "death grip" on the yoke the same as me. My instructor puts a pen between my fingers, and if I grip hard it will hurt so it is a reminder to loosen the grip some.
really like your passion for teaching
very encouraging & courageous instructor.
Good job. I hope to be doing the same thing in about a month or two. Landing is for sure the most difficult part of flying.
Thanks Lewis for flying with me through IFR conditions. I enjoyed the flights and have gained more knowledge with some of your tips.
David Olivencia nice! Thanks man. It was great flying under IFR with you..
Excellent student pilot!
At 3:13, the student proactively goes through his navigation for entry and flying the traffic pattern. Using hand gestures to indicate direction of flight and turns, so very familiar. An excellent job staying ahead of the aircraft!
The flight instruction was also impressive. Calm and relaxed teaching style, very effective. Great work!
One observation ...
Excerpts included in the video might not be representative of the entire flight, but consider ... less talking. Sure, continual coaching on final, but non-stop talking throughout the flight, doesn't allow the brain a moment of silence to process the excellent information being shared. Example, "I had a bad landing last week" has value for encouragement, but that could wait until on the ground. Consider allowing some silence so the student can focus, without distraction.
This lesson illustrates of an excellent start, with little doubt for successful progress obtaining pilot certificate(s) and added ratings.
... how has Jose progressed since?
Great job, super patient, and still making it fun, love it!!!
When I take my CFI ride next month, I'll start teaching with an accent. I think people believe somebody with an accent more. It says so in the FOI's. Good video by the way! I've been filming myself teaching my instructor.
5150dhbiker no it does say that in the FOI haha
When your aircraft is pointing towards the airport more or less, which it usually is when your inbound, simply read the bottom of your directional gyro. That is your position from the airport. Read it as N, NE, E etc. when reporting on the CTAF or Tower. Assuming your DG is set correctly of course. Same thing when using VOR. With VOR, you don't even need to be inbound to the navaid, or do any mental work. Center the needle with a TO indication, and simply read the bottom of the OBS. Let the panel do some of the thinking for you. Hopefully that tip helps.
Best instructor i have ever seen, hands down. Wish you'd been at LBA when i started my training. You were probably at school... somewhere near Bolton.
Good presentation. . .I was smiling over because I can empathize with the mental overload one experiences during those training sessions. I also noticed the death grip he had with his left hand on the yoke. . .phew.
Oh yea man it’s a mental strain when training sometimes! Glad you can relate. Thanks for watching!
Happy for you! Brings back memories of my earlier lessons- trying to recall what to say! I’d get so disappointed in myself when I couldn’t nail a landing or a maneuver! Lessons are rough and I look forward to the day I can take a passenger and simply enjoy flying!
Gonna be a pilot soon just looking at this makes me crazy excited
"Keep the nose down. Keep the nose down. Keep the nose down." An important short final mantra that is not just for new pilots! Nice job, from one CFI to another.
Midlife Flight Everyone likes to bring that nose up haha We aren’t flying airliners just yet so get the nose down! Haha thank you!
Yeah. The next place you gotta say it a lot is those 180° commercial power-offs. Such a tendency to pull the nose up to try to stretch the glide when you need to keep your speed up! BTW, just shared your video on my Midlife Flight FB page.
😂😂 I remember when I first started the circuit and learning to land. I wish I had an instructor that’s so calm, mine keeps getting frustrated with me 😩.
I like how you compliment your student and make him actually want to fix his mistakes and not just want to jump out of the plane and runaway 😂.
Haha thank you I appreciate that!
I leaned at Umatilla and Leesburg. I did bust the front gear landing flat on one of my early attempts (blew the seal). I then got on MS flight sim and set it up for a final approach to KLEE and did it over and over again until I got it right. I never had a landing problem after that. It takes a while to make it a habit to look to the opposite end of the runway instead of fixating on the number.
What I know about flying you could write on the back of a postage stamp, got to say tho', this guy seems like a good instructor!
Trust me, my knowledge could be licked onto a postage stamp too haha Thanks for the kind words man!
Great instruction. So encouraging!
Honestly such a cool instructor. So personable and a really cool guy!👍🏼
Thanks brother!
My dad was a Captain in the 8th Air Force in WW2..always said the British make great aviators...glad to see the tradition continues...
That’s high praise, thank you!