Bursting into Flames After Takeoff Over New York | Boeing 747-8 on Fire (With Real Audio)
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- Find out why the engine no. 1 of the Boeing 747-8 operating Lufthansa Flight 401 burst into flames after taking off from New York John F. Kennedy International Airport.
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"No emergency? In that case, no, you may not descend."
Hilarious.
Makes me think of Kennedy Steve.
Yeah really, no emergency, no rush for you. They should of expected it.
-"Mayday !! Both wings have detached from the aircraft !! The entire tail section has completely broken away and the fuselage is beginning to disintegrate !! I urgently request permission to descend"
-"No, permission denied, you will have to stay up there, you can only come down when I say so"
Clarence Boddicker ooh. The Clarence Boddicker. Thought Murphy put paid to you. 😄
@Rex True See: Robocop
The way ATC and The pilot were talking was like they were the bestfriend 😂
I found the approach controller to be somewhat sarcastic.
@@billmorris2613 welcome to new york
Controller was a bit assholeish but typical for jfk it seems
@@billmorris2613
Huh? He was totally chilled.
@@billmorris2613 guy seemed a bit condescending.
"Moments later, the crew advises they will not cross the Atlantic Ocean and decides to return to JFK". One of the wisest decisions ever made by any flight crew.
Probably. But a vote of the passengers would have been interesting. Three good engines, not overloaded... what could have gone wrong? ;-)
Yes, you're correct, a100%!! There are many things to be considered when you've just lost an engine! While it is true, that losing one engine is not really a cause for immediate concern, on a 4-engine 747, there is a possibility of it becoming a serious issue on a long transatlantic flight like they were on!
Even though they were "lightly loaded" 3 engines would cause them to fly at a somewhat lower altitude. Winds could be very different from what they had calculated for the trip!
They could be facing a HEADWIND instead of a possible jet-stream they were hoping to take advantage of. This could have a drastic effect on fuel burn and depending on how much fuel they took on, could mean not having enough fuel to make the crossing.
Another issue is, flying at a lower altitude means greater aerodynamic drag (wind resistance) because of "thicker air" (denser air). Also resulting in a higher fuel burn, and worsening the above mentioned situation even more.
Yet another issue is the *_asymmetric thrust_* due to one less engine on one side of the aircraft. To counter that and keep the aircraft flying "straight" the pilot will have to use opposite rudder to compensate. This also creates additional DRAG! AND EVEN MORE FUEL BURN!!
Now, can people see how all of this adds up? And these are just 3 things that immediately come to mind. There are, other concerns as well that I could go on and on about.
So, NO, it's not a simple issue of "oh, they've just lost one engine, what's the big deal?" It's far more complex than that when you're talking about a long ocean crossing with no alternate airports to land at!
So, yes, they made the absolute right decision, one hundred percent!
@@747-pilot Agreed. They took the smart, safe call.
Just because you can fly the Atlantic on 3 engines doesn't mean you should.
@@747-pilot I'm not a pilot, but I'd think the biggest concern should be the fact that since the pilots don't know what caused the #1 engine to fail, they have to assume the same could happen to all the remaining engines too.
Not declaring an emergency, not requesting assistance from fire service and ground crews, calm demeanour all round, clear communication and no unnecessary chatter- Thats German efficiency.
That's American engineering
@@rockkitty100 We have come along ways since inventing the aircraft.
Didn’t they lose WW2?
@@jameshornback4343 🤣😂🤣 Right when I saw "German efficiency" I was like WHAT?!? WW2= Their leader (thought death was better than facing the U.S.) committed suicide, we destroyed their land, decimated their troops, & we put them back in their place!!! German Efficiency my ASS!!!
@@NicklePickle426 are you russian?
Its incidences like this that makes one feel like we are living in the alternate timeline. A fairly small, almost uneventful incident that is quickly resolved. History will not remember this.
I didn't even know about this incident until this video
@@gperm3710 well it's exaggerated tbh. Look at the title.
@@andyrob3259 Honestly, that typically bothers me, but given the overall quality of this channel, combined with the fact that if I had been on that plane, I would have lost my shit, I dont mind a clickbait-y title from time to time.
@@ajzepp8976 while I don't disagree. It kinda takes away from a professional reconstruction. As they say; a good story never requires embellishing. It stands on its own.
That’s good, because it’s the deadly ones that haunt us.
Always relieved when everyone survives.
It wasn’t a dire emergency, no one was in jeopardy.
If I'd seen that engine doing that outside my window, I'd convince myself it was part of the throttle up to cross the Atlantic!🌎✈🌊
I was holding my breath after they said that the flight had stopped on the runway. (Anticipating confusion about the apron/taxiway and then BAMM!)
The video is all about your feelings.
The sarcasm in the controllers voice when they didn't want to declare an emergency.
I am guessing they get bonuses for handling emergencies, but only when they are declared as such.
I probably sound like a stick in the mud, but sarcasm has no place when an aircraft deviates due to an engine failure. Rolling the trucks costs nothing. The ego battle in the audio is troubling. I know that’s how these guys operate, but it seems like these folks need a reminder of why their procedures are written in blood.
it may be a cultural thing, idk, but i'm german as well and I can't really find sarcasm in the controllers voice and hearing the pilots responses, I think the pilots couldn't either. where do you think he was being sarcastic? the "engine failure but no emergency" part? if yes, to me it sounds more like a clarification of the situation than anything else.
@@Sicklehead88 It's the tone of the controller's voice that makes it sarcastic and frankly, I found it completely unprofessional. The controller was completely undermining the pilot's decision not to declare an emergency and if the pilots had reacted to it, could have made a situation out of nothing. At the end of the day the controllers can still declare an emergency in the background on behalf of an aircraft even if the pilots didn't deem it necessary so if they really wanted to play with the fire engines they could still have done so without having to mock the pilots on frequency.
@Zangief ☭ On what basis is there urgency or distress in this situation that requires an emergency to be declared, and what makes it reckless to not have done so? The crew would have declared an emergency had the situation dictated is, as they are trained to do, but to re-iterate what I said in my comment above, in any case ATC can declare an emergency on behalf of any aircraft if they deem it necessary regardless of the flight crew's decision.
Factors that may have resulted in a situation of distress or urgency would be for example: if there was an uncontained engine failure; damage caused to the aircraft as a result of the engine failure; an overweight landing (which the pilots clearly stated was not the case when asked); or a critical fuel state.
Given the fact the failure happened just after departure they should have absolutely diverted and landed immediately, which they did, but diverting does not necessitate the declaration of a pan-pan or mayday. Had this happened midway over the Atlantic, they may well have continued onwards to their destination with the 3 remaining engines, fuel permitting, or diverted under a pan-pan somewhere in the UK if fuel was more critical. A single engine failure on 4 engine jet is not in the same realm of urgency as a single engine failure in a single or twin engine aircraft and the aircraft can continue to fly safely with some reduced performance and slight yaw caused by the thrust asymmetry/increased drag which can be easily trimmed out.
"Just an engine failure, but you're not in an emergency". Um, that was most definitely sarcasm.
And well deserved sarcasm, IMHO.
@@robertmog4336 No doubt. You lose an engine, you declare an emergency.
@@jayphilipwilliams That's how I've always seen it. I mean, you can declare an emergency without screaming "We'll be in the Atlantic!" Or Hudson. LOL.
Well not on the 747 it is only a real concern on a twin jet. Like BA flew transatlantic after a 747 engine failure.
I kinda wish the pilot responded: "No sir, we're a 747-800, we've still got 3 working engines"
it's impossible to get tired looking the 747
absolutely right
It's gonna be sad day in aviation when they are no longer flying
@@elparcero1220 well they are retired for commercial use :(
Haha yeah
I can’t agree with you more on that one.
And also the ATC sounds so chill
All in a New York City workday…….we’re all chill.
@@SI-gs5rj Yeah Right.....brrrrrrrrrrr
@@robertcuratolo5339 lol
@@SI-gs5rj lmao
It's amazing how calm everyone is. True professionals!.
Pilot was embarrassed that his engine crapped out. Stoic Germans....what to do with them.
@@RLTtizME I believe a pan-pan would match the situation.
@@RLTtizME They were neither more not less stoic than anybody else: 10mn into the flight an engine quits on a 747 with no fire and a "light" aircraft able to land asap if requested, not a big deal. They do it intensively on simulators, it was just an incident, nothing very serious and indeed they were not in an emergency situation. Nothing to make a fuss about
@@patolt1628 No Olt Volt...German's have a reputation for being emotionless stoics and this pilot wanted only to poo poo the entire event because he was embarrassed. Most would have gone Pan Pan Pan.....so there goes your theory. Thanks for posting.
It was like that's what they were doing for a living.
When you read all the impressive specs of the 747-8I at the beginning of the video, it reminds you what a real shame it is that not more of these beautiful aircraft were ordered.
Man, if I were a pilot, I would love speaking to the JFK ATC 😂 What a chilled out legend that guy is 😂
Exactly.
A chilled out German, sure is fun to chat with.
@@daviderhahonThe pilot did not to care all that much about much.Glad he decided NOT to cross the Atlantic with a faulty engine.It took him a few minutes to think about it. The controller was a cool dude.
The ATC guy sounds cool but he's wound up on the inside.
Kennedy Steve?
@@sophierobinson2738 Kennedy Steve retired unfortunately, but this controller reminded me of Steve.
Although that plane can fly with a lost engine, it is nice to see pilots who decided that is not acceptable for a trans-Atlantic flight. Given most crashes are a result of cumulative bad events and/or pilot hubris, removing both put a full plane on the ground safely.
New sub, and I've been binge watching you. Thanks.
It’s pretty much a cut and dry decision to be honest - you’d never fly a complete route with one engine inop. In fact if it cannot be restarted the checklist would direct the pilots to land at the nearest suitable airport. If they decided to continue, they would not have enough fuel to complete the planned route in any case.
Agreed. I fly on C17s and there are specific procedures where we’ll fly with 3 engines. It’s a normal checklist we can run, with higher approval of course. The only issue is fuel planning due to lower airspeed and increased engine thrust under heavy loads. This plane was light so fuel may have not even been a factor. Better safe than sorry though.
As a flight nurse, we call it the Swiss cheese factor. This occurs when several smaller issues all line up in just the right way to create a recipe for disaster. Any intervention during the smaller events could prevent something catastrophic. So we are told not never hold back with our feelings or gut if something arises. FYI….because of this channel, I have learned a lot about aviation terms, etc that have helped me in my job flying in our Kingair B 200!
@@shelleymurphy1966 Yes! It’s used in aviation a lot too! The Swiss cheese model is an excellent representation of what almost all accidents are caused by, in any career field.
@@shelleymurphy1966 There is another video about a similar incident, and the broken engine spewed out a shrapnel and that smashed one of the porthole windows and a woman passenger was sucked out the window. These pilots made the right decision. Never mind about the plane being able to fly with the remaining engines.
Stunning images, and the banter tween a German pilot & Jersy boy controller was fun. A breath taking aircraft star of the show. Really enjoyed it, many thanks!
Always lot's of that goes on
JFK is in Queens, NY...not Jersey. why do you think this guy is from jersey? im damn near positive thats not a nj accent. sounds like hes from queens or brooklyn. the way he says "tree" instead of three is the giveaway for me.
These clowns watch too much Sopranos . PS: that's a
straight up Brooklyn accent .
He seemed like a douche.
@@rainerrain9689 Yup, definitely a Brooklyn accent.
Sometimes it's best not to wait until it is an emergency. I say all's well that ends well. And they had the guts to cancel the flight and return to face the music for safety's sake. I like that.
Germans are very safety conscious.
The opening pictures of the video show a parked Lufthansa 747. At first I thought that this is a real scene, and not a sequence created with the new MFS flight simulator. This simulator has indeed a stunning performance...
This is P3D not FS2020
@@blanderrr4892 Dunno what P3D but it says in the desc it's fsx
@@blanderrr4892 it's mfs2020
@@elextroblaze it's not fsx either, it's mfs2020
@@hothaifahmaen5158 nah mfs2020 is wayy more realistic than that(not saying fsx dosent look realistic)
The ATC was cool as hell, he's just spreading happiness while being careful!
The crew did the right decision, there's no point to do an intercontinental flight while having already lost part of the safety margin through an engine failure.
Many of the other subject in this channel should have ended up exactly like that, by stopping at first problem.
The lose of an engine requires a landing at the closest, time wise, suitable airport.
@@billmorris2613 The video narrative was like they had the option to proceed. I'm sure the plane could safely make it on 3 but was there truly no option? FWIW I think the title of this is a bit over dramatic for a routine flameout.
@@bldn10 the problem is not that the plan could not have made it with 3 engines, it is all about safety margin, and losing it thus deciding to abort the flight.
@@iAPX432 That's my question - did he DECIDE to return or did he, as Bill Morris implied, HAVE to return? I.e. FAA or company requirement?
@@bldn10 Pretty sure it's not a FAA requirement, but still was it a nice company policy, a wise company decision, or a great crew decision?
We will probably never know, except, at the end, "everyone survived".
This is a true pilot who cares about his plane, crew and passengers!!! Well Done!
Just call it mayday and get the assistance u can get, peoples lives are on the stakes, no reason to put sunglasses on and light a cigar to be cool and say "no emergency". This was on the limit. Pilot did in fact play blackjack with everyones life, could have gone so wrong with fuel overload
@@TheInsaneHardstyle Pan pan might have been a better approach here. There's no imminent danger, but it's best for them to get on the ground relatively quickly, just to be safe.
@@TheInsaneHardstyle What rubbish! Do you call the police and breakdown services if you get an ABS failure warning light while driving your car? An engine failure on a 4 engine aircraft near the start of a long flight means that it is prudent to land rather than continuing the flight, but absent any other fault indications it does not present any significant risk to the aircraft or passengers. Had it been a short flight or had happened later into the flight, they may even have elected to continue. At most it warrants a "pan" call. The pilot was quite certain that he would be able to conduct a routine and safe landing (and did so), so why create a big drama? Declaring an emergency when it is unnecessary can put other aircraft at risk as priority is given to the emergency aircraft, and the extra load on ATC means that mistakes are more likely. For the pilot it was not much more than an annoyance - like having a headlight fail on a car.
@@TheInsaneHardstyleAt last somebody pointed this out 👏
@@davemould4638 : You are obviously not a pilot. TheInsaneHardstyle is correct. At least a Pan should be called. Also, a Pan IS an emergency, just a lesser one than Mayday. FYI: I am a recently retired 777 pilot with over 34 years flying experience.
The pilot remained so calm, I thought sure bad news was coming, but I'm so glad that he felt it necessary to turn the plane around and risk the passengers' and crews' lives.💓
Glad nothing ruined the landing.not like ghost flight 401. The pilots must have just shut down the outboard engine according to the check list protocol and calmly did a routine classic landing.
I just love the videos where everybody survives. What a great engine. The engine management system knew there was a fault and shut it down.
....Just like Jon Taffer
Excellant video
Better waste 1h of your life than risk your whole life. Might have been super annoying for the passengers and crew but I’m glad the pilots made this decision and rightfully so!! (unlike other stubborn pilots who would have continued the flight and risk everyone’s lives)
Agreed, nobody wants to fly with a failed engine over the Atlantic ocean.
@@cptcrogge With a 4 engine aircraft like the 747, if you have the fuel, it's perfectly safe. It's been done before
Probably much longer than 1 hour but they made the right decision regardless
@@aarondynamics1311 Could it still fly with two engines with full cargo / passenger configuration?
@@cptcrogge It can do it no problem, but the plane would have to divert. It is like a twinjet flying on 1 engine
“Bursting into flames” is a lot different from an engine failure. Gee whiz, I was thinking a Lufthansa 748 killed hundreds of people and somehow didn’t hear of it haha. Incredibly glad it didn’t burst into flames.
Flight Channel, I personally think this video was absolutely visually stunning and extremely well done on every level. The plane itself was so beautiful to see. Thank you very much for all your hard work on this. I was so glad to see that those German Pilots chose to err on the side of caution and return to JFK. Kudos to them for that as they put safety first also kudos to the Flight Channel for such an outstanding video. I call this a great ending.
“Everyone survived” was the best part thank god no one died.
Very original. This video was very uneventful. The only entertainment value came from the flamboyant and sassy ATC who was trying to play monkey games from the get-go. But, it didn't work.
Amen
Yeah,, anyone could have died just by hearing the bang!
@@ARedMotorcycle
There are procedures and a hierarchy of authority. Without declaring an emergency ATC is boss.
Boring! 😪
This is one of the best non-emergency emergency landings I've seen in quite a while. Bravo Lufthansa!
Stunning recreation as always. I heard this interchange between the Lufthansa Captain and JFK ATC on VASAviation a few months ago and I thought ATC caught himself, I think, initially veering off into sarcasam with his first response of "Oh...so you have an engine failure but you're not an emergency aircraft". I thought the Captain was trying to avoid going through the paperwork of an emergency landing...with "No...not an emergency...not even close". A destroyed turbine disk is a pretty serious situation but I guess all the flight crew knew was they had a misbehaving engine they needed to shut down. Why they chose to continue on the departure heading, even for just a few minutes I think supports that they were minimizing the situation at all costs. What a spectacular simulation. I concur with another post that you could have easily confused some of the initial gate shots as the real deal. Just amazing software.
Losing one of four engines is not an emergency unless it is uncontained. But you don't leave land for the Atlantic with an issue like that.
I agree on the sarcasm. He stopped himself just short of departing the professional.
I love this. Everyone in the U.S. is so eager to go into hero mode (the guy dispatched emergency crews), whereas Germans are just relentlessly pragmatic about it.
The sassy ATC was no match for the German pilot.
I think the other way around
Achtung!
New York ATC is something else....
It's the way New Yorkers are, they can come across as brash and rude but it's just their nature. I'm a Brit living in central Pennsylvania and people here are so much more different, much less in your face and much more reserved. Depending on which part of the US you live you will find Americans are more diverse and different than people think.
Welcome to New York City. We are nice with an attitude.
My parents were on this flight sadly but lucky to have them back
Is this true
Damn if this is true I'm glad to hear this
@Lady Joker bruh why will I lie about my parents
@Lady Joker what do you know?!
@@TheUnknownLocomotive exactly
When i was a kid, my family and I were on an Air India flight from BOM to DEL. This had to have been 10-15 years ago now, yet I still remember thinking at the time that the 747 was ancient.
Shortly after takeoff we heard a loud bang and started smelling smoke. We all started praying.
Despite the age of the plane and (as we later found out) an engine failure on the right wing, our flight crew were badasses. Made everyone feel calm, turned the flight around and proceeded to land safely. I still remember the relief and all the clapping when we landed.
These pilots are trained for situations like these. Some are better under pressure than others, like all humans.
I love to see your videos on incidents like these. Where the plane lands safely. It reminds me that air crashes aren't common. And that many times incidents end like this. It makes me feel alot safer about flying. Especially with pilots like these, who decided not to cross the ocean with only 3 engines and returned to the airport. I prefer a delay over a disaster.
Despite the engines redundancy, pilots should have declared emergency during the approach. I would say the "pan pan" would be favourable in this situation rather than the "mayday". Even the tower controller was baffled to hear the pilots response.
100% agreed. Good thing ATC will declare for you if you don’t do it fast enough
@@airwave2592 Good thing ATC does that. Pilots should be trained in crew resource management, so to handle emergencies wisely.
how could the pilot know what damage had been caused? Would seem safer to me to be down before something else blows up !
pilot was like"just an engine fire bro"
Why would they? Engine failure is part of "the holy trinity" in airline flight simulations, so they've been dealing with this problem every six months in the sim since they started flying airliners. They continued with the SID long enough to complete the engine shutdown checklist, which solved the problem, the aircraft was light (1/3 capacity), didn't need to dump fuel, so they didn't want to screw up JFK schedules more than it was necessary. Maybe they ruined the ATC's delight of having a more interesting shift, as more or less serious emergencies were a almost daily thing on JFK before 2020.
JFK's got some fun-sounding folks on staff. that's the kind of energy that almost calms the stress levels of a situation, for me at least- that 'i've seen it all' easygoing personality, like anything that can go wrong will turn out fine and they'll make sure of it. when you fuck up they'll catch you and they keep you on track, but they kinda ease the pressure of the situation with their method of doing so.
i'm also loving these newer videos! i love the old ones, too, but it's refreshing to see a more "run-of-the-mill" (relatively speaking!) mechanical issue that doesn't break my heart with the casualty count by the end of it. that's what you sign up for when you watch videos like this but still LOL and for example, this situation i'd never even heard about. very fascinating when everything you're seeing is completely new info vs say, tenerife. great work as always!
Awesome response. You nailed my sentiments on all levels there. I know personally there’s a time for formality, but the ATCs response was real and engagingly authoritative. Just what was needed. Of course, call out emergency, that’s what they’re there for. I agree with you, these videos are exceptional.They are the highlight of my week with my noise cancelling headphones and my iced double bourbon. Thank you.
I'm proud of the captain for making the call not to proceed flying over the ocean! The Control Tower guy was sarcastic, he wasn't professional! Take the pilot's word for it he's the one flying the plane!
that pilot was a model of calm and collectedness. bless
Never let them see you sweat. Don't scare the passengers. Remain calm & nobody panics.
My brother is a pilot and i am a software engineer. My level of respect and gratitude has gone up 100X for pilots. Just amazing. I am being educated by this channel and now i want to research what type of integration software programs do planes use. Also i have missed about 2 days of work watching this channel. Amazing job and respect to the airline crew.
ATC: BUT I WANT TO HELP YOU!!!
401: Nah, we good.
I had a similar situation on a 747 from Manila, Philippines to Japan to LA X back in 1985. As newly weds returning home after my father-in-funeral we encountered a high vibration noise in the number one engine and the pilot returned to Manila. We deplaned and watched a tug take the 747 away to have the engine replaced; which took 12 hours to do.
All of them were incredibly chill and acting like no big deal, happens every day.
Love the newer videos! Even though they aren't major accidents or famous, they are much more interesting!
No they’re not...standard contained engine failure that didn’t even require an emergency isn’t interesting in the slightest. There are hundreds of accidents that aren’t famous that actually are interesting. Nothing happened here.
@@33moneyball People have their own opinion ( No Hate Just ❤️ )
@@024HR Thank you!! lol
@@bezadegefa9464 :)
@33nutslover dude chose this because of the interesting/funny audio. Why not start your own aviation channel?
Seems like the ATC was a fun guy 😂
Yeah, I loved the exchange between the Approach guy and 401 😀
He is clear and concise, a pro guy
@Melissa Leon I disagree, ATC is authoritive and can come across as cocky when they don't take in the information. I can't recall the exact situation but there was a controller who tried to clear a flight for take off despite another aircraft being lost in the vicinity and on the runway. Luckily the pilots were switched on and denied the clearance. You can hear the controller overstep authority and descend into arrogance in that exchange
I thought he sounded like a jerk. He wanted to come across as nice (with a lot of attitude behind it).
Interesting how different people hear different things from the same dialogue. I thought the ATC tone just slightly cocky, but it may be a cultural thing as Im not from the US. All opinions are equally valid
Dude works at probably one of the busiest airports in the world and he just sounds so chill, how does he do it?
Frankly, I love these stories with happy endings.
The video is all about your feelings.
i love Happy Ending
@@K1OIK you’ve probably posted that enough times now, maybe think of a new post?
@@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549 Not until they get the message.
Ah the redundancy of these four engine queens. Sad to see them being retired for passengers.
what do you mean? there are no more 747 flying? i took one last year from morocco to canada
They'll be flying cargo for a long time at least.
@@member5488 u sure?
@@uhuh3401 yep the cargo nose door is irreplaceable
They are not, at least not with DLH.
We are continuing to utilize 4(!!!) quad engined subfleets:
B747-430
B747-830
A340-300
A340-600
This is the one channel I turn my ad blocker off and watch the ads to support the channel. The videos have too much effort put into them for me to not give back.
There is another video about a similar incident, and the broken engine spewed out a shrapnel and that smashed one of the porthole windows and a woman passenger was sucked out the window and perished (probably from hypothermia, shock, hypoxia). These pilots made the right decision. Never mind about the plane being able to fly with the remaining engines.
I've flown on Lufthansa's 747-8 in 2015 before. It felt very modern.
That was very nerve-wracking, shout out to the pilots for doing everything necessary to keep everyone as safe as possible and preventing a barbaric disaster
The good thing when you realize you have 3 engines to spare 🤔
Yeah, flying a single-engine GA plane really sucks. Losing an engine in that scenario is the stuff of nightmares.
Bring back the 707 and DC-8.....Hell even the Airbus 340
@@donreinke5863 YES A340!!
@San Tropez Yes, I wonder why Boeing put 4 engines on the 747...
@@goldorak3251 the plane was built in the 70s, 4 engines was the only option, 3 wouldn't be powerful enough, plus they needed to bypass the 60 minute ETOPS rule, today, just 2 of the GE90 and GE9X are able to power the 747, but it's not so simple as just "let's remove the outboard engines and replace the inboard with GE90s", because the plane was built to utilize 4 engines, it NEEDS 4 engines
Glad to see that everyone survived for once.
The video quality is amazing btw
I don't know if that atc guy is trying to be funny, or just sarcastic. Probably never get bored around him. Dude is so chill.
Btw, love you tfc, the efforts you take and the attention to details are as amazing as ever. Love you hardworking and dedication.
I Love how utterly bewildered that ATC sounds.
"Overweight for landing?"
"..no, not even that."
"NoT eVeN tHaT!.........*alright!*"
actually with the bigger more established airlines they’ll just land the plane even if it’s overweight. This will put the aircraft out of service for some time due to the stresses but they know they’ll lose less money by avoiding lawsuits and claims by landing ASAP and protecting the passengers.
Even with three operating engines safety's always number one. Perfectly executed return to JFK. Kudos to crew and ATC!
So good to watch one of these videos where no one died, and no aircraft were destroyed.
Graphics are AMAZING!
Can we get some appreciation for TheFlightChannel here? As a fellow upcoming air crash recreator as well, just like him, I understand how hard it is to make these kinds of videos. The editing, and time put into it, and the perfection as well. Most of you probably don't realize that he/she/they have to fly the entire flight path because I don't think there's a flight path editor feature in P3D! So, for the respect of all the work this person has done, can we please all hit the like button?
Love how you are adding audio more now. Makes me wish you could go back and revisit the older stories and update them. Love the channel
That approach controller sounded like he was having a fantastic day.
Definitely well-disciplined pilots. I've freaked out more about not being able to find my keys.
'everyone survive' best two words.
Yes. It chills me out more than anything does. Human lives matter.
Thank God.
Greetings from +62 🙏🏼
I'm going to start using it for trivial things like going shopping :P
The video is all about your feelings.
What a magnificent aircraft! Engine trouble notwithstanding.
And I enjoy tracking qui te a few of them on FlightRadar24, it's happy they are coming back.
Those Lufthansa 747-8s are so pretty. Hope they keep flying for years to come
Will truly miss these beautiful 4 engine giants with the twin engines slowly making way.
Hell I had the same thing happen to me on a flight out of JFK for Miami in 2016. We took off in a 767, I believe, and got about fifteen minutes out over the Atlantic when I heard a load pop, and the left engine started vibrating something awful. We returned to JFK on one engine, where, taking no chances, fire and emergency crews were waiting. We made it to the gate on our own power, after which we were told to de-plane, walk twenty feet to a gate across the aisle, and simply re-take our exact same seats on an exact same 767. Twenty minutes later were were back in the air headed to Miami and moving on with the rest of our lives. Damnedest thing that ever happened to me.
the way the atc said “Nope, you cannot descend now.” was intimidating ROFL
Good thing he didn't say "Nein" and cause confusion regarding the number Nine.
Lol
@@Torgo1969 Haha true
Everytime when you mention that everyone survived . I feel happy.but ATC guy attitude was something else ❤️
I only fly Lufthansa when traveling trans Atlantic. I think they’re the best!
The video is all about your feelings.
Flew Lufthansa trans Atlantic. Very efficient. Cabin crew friendly, even chatty when they had the time. Flew into Schiphol. Strangely substandard considering it is such a major airport hub.
This looks too good… thank you for being great TFC
Love your vids
-A long time fan
Exceptional sound design, TFC. Another Gold Standard!
That "Alright" at 6:54 is the same one parents give their kids when they're tired of telling them not to do something for the 100th time and are content with just letting them hurt themselves and learning the hard way lol. But yes, good decision by the pilots to not try to make the Atlantic crossing on 3 engines. You lose another one half way there and all of the sudden everybody on board is in trouble. Best to not take a chance.
One of many great flight crew professional decision out there. Safety is number one. And the way they talk was mind blowing, very calm and humble
12/08/1985 : crash of JAPAN AIR LINES 123 , 520 perished ,
may their souls R.I.P
Nice work TFC
1 engine out of 4 not emergency. I was f/a for twa years ago lost one engine after take off on dc9 10, we did almost the same procedure. I was very happy to be on the ground as I heard the engine go off and felt the deceleration. Was a bit scary.
Wow I had no idea the 747 was still being manufactured at that time. What a workhorse.
I used to watch all your videos the day they came out in 2019 and early 2020 I cant believe I found you again
The graphics are just stunning! Its like its the real aircraft. Thanks for all your hard work making these videos. Much ❤! God bless!
Thank you for your dedication and excellent videos. We appreciate your hard work in bringing quality and emotion to aviation incidents.
I don't even bother watching shows like Air Disasters anymore, this channel is much better!
That is an excellent aircraft. The crew seemed very professional and on point. The aircraft controller seemed someone bemused and has that sarcastic sense of humor. All and all a well handled incident.
Nice to see these outcomes where everyone survives.
I love it when pilots use common sense and especially when everyone survives
Great outcome, I love when these videos have no loss of life and hats off to the crew advising we will not cross the atlantic ocean
The JFK Approach guy is one of the best/funniest Air Traffic Controllers out there.
This is the happiest video that you have done!
another amazing work. Thank you!
Queen of the skies did not disappoint!
Amazing quality on those videos, great work! Thanks
Got to say your presentation is of a very high quality. Interesting how JFK assumed it was an emergency, even though the pilots had not declared one.
I would not have told them no on standby of emergency equipment. You never know when having aid standing by could make a difference
The pilot knew what he was doing. One engine out - decided not to continue flight over the ocean - totally calm - got plane down safe. Sounds totally competent - no risk taker.
@@jamesupton4996 I understand that concept. But as I recall, you can't see most of the plane from the cockpit, if there was a bigger issue than what was known, having a fire/rescue on standby isn't going to hurt anything. I've been to fires where mutual aid was called off, when it was actually needed.
@@SimonTekConley Fair enough.
@@SimonTekConley But also the engine was auto-shutdown like 15 minutes ago. And there were no other problems apparent in the cockpit, and no passengers or fight attendants are reporting any kind of smoke or fire, after you told them "we're returning to JFK because of an engine issue." I mean, as a PAX, that would be the kind of thing that would cause me to bring the window shade up, and stare intently at the wings!!!
The problem with "emergency vehicles standing-by" is, doesn't that kinda interfere with "thanks, but can you give us taxi instructions to a gate?"
@@oshi8ooP complacency at it's best. Next time a plane lands while it's on fire, and the air crew says no help needed, y'all will be screaming that they should've been on standby. All standby means is they are ready to run. They are dressed, and in the trucks ready to go.
The plane 747. What a beauty. Beautiful beyond words.
the way the jfk atc talks it seems like they are best friends. love their conversation
Still waiting for the bursting into flames bit, compressor stall and engine shut down is not bursting into flames.
TFC. Copycats out there but you are ALWAYS the best! Great animation and great detail about everything, everything! You just keep getting better all the time.
Thank you!
Fantastic animation - very much appreciated, TheFlightChannel.
I love how enthusiastic and surprised the ATC guy on the approach frequency was
“ I bet your plane doesnt shoot flames"
Boeing: Hold my engines
Top quality as ever 👏👏
Still the No. 1 Channel for Aviation History on TH-cam.
Gotta love the reliability of the 747