Thanks again for this series. Videos about how to play will not get much traction, they never have. But the few, the proud, the willing to at least try to dig themselves out of the potato patch, very much appreciate your effort.
You're welcome. It's honestly encouraging to know that there are players our there still working on improving! That is more incentive to continue these kinds of endeavors than you may realize. =D
Great tutorial! Honestly wish I had this when grinding through Yorck! Yorck was the first ship that made me realize that AP is a powerful ammo type for a CA. Once I discovered that, Yorck became my favorite T7 cruiser, especially because of that wonderful handling.
Thank you very much for this Raptor. I just picked WoWs back up for the first time and have finally been putting time into cruisers (last I played the Cleveland was a T6 still) Bouncing between USN CAs and KM CAs. Will give the KM a better go with the guides now!
wow great video on how to play video on York !! I seen other TH-cam players that have video on there channel on how to play certain ships . I find myself getting bored and not learning anything . this video was great on the way you broke it down and explained it certain strength these ships have . thank you great vid.
I just found you and I liked your movies right away. Thanks for the tutorial! :) Now, when I buy a ship, I always watch a tutorial about it. It helps a lot.
Those would then be an upgrade of the armoured cruiser SMS Bluchers guns; Blucher was the Imperial Navy's last Armoured Cruiser, 12-8.3 inch guns. She ended up too slow to keep up with the Imperial BC's and was sunk bu a lot of 12" fire from British BCs at the Battle of Dogger Bank. - Yorck and Weimar are built on the same hull; the hull and superstructures reminds me a lot of the first KM cruiser built after WWI, the Emden.
When I started this game I had one thing on my mind, I want to get my hands on a Bismark, little did I know that german BBs are terrible artillery pieces, and with the soon to follow secondary nerf I hated playing german BBs, so I switched to cruisers and it was the best decision I could've made, the german cruisers are so fun to play. I currently have Hindenburg and I struggle to do less that 100k damage each match
I love the German cruiser branch. They sometimes feel like they haven't aged well as BB guns get bigger and bigger - and the relative value of their armor schemes is less and less - but they're still great ships with great guns and a lot going for them.
As a new player with the German cruiser line that was a great video thanks very much. I don't think you mentioned but I would like to ask how do you make best use of that plane that's mounted in the middle of the ship on deck?
Glad it was helpful! Yorck only has access to Patrol Fighter, and honestly it's kind of crap. They're meant to help intercept carrier planes that are attacking you, but don't work all that often.
Very nice series of video that help me a LOT to play this game and of course german cruiser here, thanks a lot. I'm still a bit confused about the Gun feeder skills, not sure i understand the mechanic.
If your guns are already loaded and you want to swap ammunition types, then you double press the appropriate key and the gun reload cycle starts anew at full duration (say, 12 seconds for many of these German heavy cruisers). Gun Feeder reduces this by 50%, so you can change ammunition types on the fly faster. It is very useful if you are engaging a target with HE who then opts to make a turn you weren't expecting; you can swap to AP and punish him faster than you could otherwise. For heavy cruisers, it's a great skill IMHO.
Since no one answered, I will give you my opinion. No, it's very good and spamming from distance and using throttle to avoid incoming fire. You don't want to be engaging at close range unless you absolutely have too. She is good at kiting and it presents a very small target when seen from the rear. Having the aiming device means more of your shells will hit their target. Her ideal situation is camped behind an island near a cap, but don't play this style until you have concealment on your captain. As getting there is extremely rough if you don't have concealment. Glhf
Don't be aggressive early game ... learned that one the hard way After several hours with the German line, along with other more nimble cruisers I felt pretty confident in my ability to dodge shells, or at least angle enough to take little damage ..... Yorck is a different beast entirely ... there is a non insignificant chance, regardless of your angling, dodging, etc a single battleship shell will instantly delete you. I try to avoid playing aggressively, while also aiding my team, I always seem to get caught whenever my flank collapses, or folks just start turning out hard to kite .. I know the second I turn in I will be deleted .. can't show anything with this ship, and even than nothing is still too much ...
the best way to play Yorck is to flank and sneak up on your target then face your bows directly at them and charge, the AP shells will quickly grind down most ships to nothing, even battleships in that tier aren't safe, just using the front guns will be more than sufficient at point blank. I've destroyed at least 3 Hipper class T8 cruisers by singling them out on the edge of the map, the faster firing rate on those big guns will trump the higher tier long range guns every time, its the same formula that makes the T5 Bayern class BB so good
Great video on Yorck. I was a little hesitant to initially get her, but she has proven to be a good cruiser. I think her double set of torps are good, good firepower, her AP hits hard. I like your Capt. build, am altering mine to mirror yours overall, she is a good cruiser. Great video on Yorck. I was a little hesitant to initially get her, but she has proven to be a good cruiser. I think her double set of torps are good, good firepower, her AP hits hard. I like your Capt. build, am altering mine to mirror yours, overall, she is a good cruiser.
Back when I played her the AP did nothing but shatter against any ship(I’m shooting an Atlanta at point blank and doing no damage) but the HE always felt nice doing 5-7k a salvo
Yorck's HE has always been good; in fact, it remains the best HE of any German cruiser in the tech tree. Her AP has undergone some changes over the years. When she initially launched, Yorck used some kind of ancient World War I AP shell that lost tremendous velocity - and thus, penetration value - past about 10km. The shell was unusable at range. Somewhere in the past couple of years WG made some corrections and Yorck's AP is now effective at all ranges, similar to how the subsequent ships in the line work.
I like Hipper better. . . But I will take a Yorck in a Tier IX game over a Hipper in a Tier X game anytime. In the real world the difference between 205mm and 210 mm would be insignificant. But it seems to make a difference. I haven’t made an actual study, but it seems like armor and penetration schemes have been built around controlling impact of the the standard 8” heavy cruiser gun, which may be why the slightly higher caliber is more effective.
the hipper is not as good as Yorck imo, the health increase is nice but aside from that its worse in every other way, its harder to maneuver, its a huge target, bad concealment, slower firing guns in exchange for a little extra damage and range, its almost a downgrade. I still like the Hipper class because it looks good but it doesn't offer much compared to what the Yorck can do at T7
Yorck is hands down the best ship in the game, nobody expects that much out of it which is what makes it so good. My whole team had died on me and it was either 1v2 or 1v3 and it completely destroyed everything, there was only one ship left and everyone was calling me stupid for chasing it down instead of holding our advantage, but I didn't really care if we won or not and just wanted to play stupid hard. I headed towards middle map and peered around the corner, sitting in-between 3 large rocks was same tier Japanese or American battleship with over half health sailing between the rocks and decided to go full speed at it, those 200mm guns devastated a slightly angled battleship point blank range with just the forward guns firing AP i won the match with a Kraken, I had like a quarter health left did not expect to survive, best game I ever played, overpowered ship in my opinion
Sorry but the main thing I disagree with is the start of the match. Not pushing up and supporting your dd is a massive mistake imo. If your dd dies on you flank, you usually lose it. If they trade its still a 50/50. There is a big difference between shooting a dd at 15km or 10km with the amount of shells that will land. The amount of games I have won a flank by blasting a unsuspecting dd by pushing up hard at the start behind that island or any island. This applies at every level. From tier 4 to tier 10. Especially in the current meta where one cr is the norm on a flank. So a cruiser not pushing up with the dd, can sign the death note if the enemy cruiser does. Edited to fix spelling
If I were in a light cruiser or a radar heavy cruiser, I would probably agree with you. In something like a Baltimore - 10km detection and 10km radar - that kind of play makes sense. In a ship like Yorck or Hipper - 12km detection on 5.5 or 6km hydro - it's likely a death sentence for the cruiser player. I play a lot of destroyer, enough to know that there are risks you can and can't take early in a game depending on your matchmaking. A lot of destroyer players in the modern game struggle to learn that lesson, or simply refuse to learn it altogether and barrel into caps when they shouldn't. A good cruiser player behind them often won't make the difference in an early cap, but a live cruiser later in the game can frequently have a big impact. It's true for destroyers and for cruisers: never trade your ship for a capture zone (in like 99% of situations).
@@gezegenlermerkur4058 I prefer the Germans. The British light cruisers are fun and unique, but they are not good all-arounders. The British heavy cruisers ARE good all-arounders, but have worse armor schemes than the Germans.
ironically on the whole german battlecruisers are better cruisers (if you wanna play them like that) , and now days german hydro on them is nerfed . they lag behind everybody else in the german tree tier for tier
@@lovrokapel363 Nah, Hipper has a 3 second faster reload. Take it from someone that has both ships, The Prinz and the Hipper are very evenly matched, The hipper having better firepower (by no small margin) and the Prinz being more survivable (by no small margin)
Thanks again for this series. Videos about how to play will not get much traction, they never have. But the few, the proud, the willing to at least try to dig themselves out of the potato patch, very much appreciate your effort.
You're welcome. It's honestly encouraging to know that there are players our there still working on improving! That is more incentive to continue these kinds of endeavors than you may realize. =D
Great tutorial! Honestly wish I had this when grinding through Yorck! Yorck was the first ship that made me realize that AP is a powerful ammo type for a CA. Once I discovered that, Yorck became my favorite T7 cruiser, especially because of that wonderful handling.
If you love heavy cruiser AP, make sure and try the American line.
@@SeaRaptor Absolutely! Currently on New Orleans (I even grinded to get Halsey)!
seriously underrated and underwatched video
Thank you very much for this Raptor. I just picked WoWs back up for the first time and have finally been putting time into cruisers (last I played the Cleveland was a T6 still)
Bouncing between USN CAs and KM CAs. Will give the KM a better go with the guides now!
Thank you so much for this. I subbed. I have always been wanting these kind of videos on traching individual ships.
You're welcome, glad it was helpful!
Like the Roon TH-cam video, perfect information "How to play ..."
Thank you for your work. All the best!
wow great video on how to play video on York !! I seen other TH-cam players that have video on there channel on how to play certain ships . I find myself getting bored and not learning anything . this video was great on the way you broke it down and explained it certain strength these ships have . thank you great vid.
You're welcome, glad you enjoyed it!
Yorck and Hipper are my favorite tech-tree cruisers
I just found you and I liked your movies right away. Thanks for the tutorial! :) Now, when I buy a ship, I always watch a tutorial about it. It helps a lot.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed!
Thank you. Yorck is one of my favorite T7 cruisers. I made a mod change to hydro, going to see how things improve.
thank you for the great guide, I can see a massive improvement in my games after learning from this video! earned a sub
You're welcome, glad it helped!
Nice job! My paltry scores have increased since following your advice. 👋👋👋
Good to hear! Glad it was helpful.
Yorck with a perma camo, flagged up and a good captain can farm great damage, credits in Op Narai. Right up there with Fiji
Yeah, most of the T7 cruisers can easily be ground through Narai. It's particularly useful for weaker ones (like Eendracht).
Those would then be an upgrade of the armoured cruiser SMS Bluchers guns; Blucher was the Imperial Navy's last Armoured Cruiser, 12-8.3 inch guns. She ended up too slow to keep up with the Imperial BC's and was sunk bu a lot of 12" fire from British BCs at the Battle of Dogger Bank.
- Yorck and Weimar are built on the same hull; the hull and superstructures reminds me a lot of the first KM cruiser built after WWI, the Emden.
incredible video, thanks a lot
When I started this game I had one thing on my mind, I want to get my hands on a Bismark, little did I know that german BBs are terrible artillery pieces, and with the soon to follow secondary nerf I hated playing german BBs, so I switched to cruisers and it was the best decision I could've made, the german cruisers are so fun to play. I currently have Hindenburg and I struggle to do less that 100k damage each match
I love the German cruiser branch. They sometimes feel like they haven't aged well as BB guns get bigger and bigger - and the relative value of their armor schemes is less and less - but they're still great ships with great guns and a lot going for them.
Great tutorial… I struggle with York and Hipper thanks … I know why now
As a new player with the German cruiser line that was a great video thanks very much. I don't think you mentioned but I would like to ask how do you make best use of that plane that's mounted in the middle of the ship on deck?
Glad it was helpful! Yorck only has access to Patrol Fighter, and honestly it's kind of crap. They're meant to help intercept carrier planes that are attacking you, but don't work all that often.
Very nice series of video that help me a LOT to play this game and of course german cruiser here, thanks a lot. I'm still a bit confused about the Gun feeder skills, not sure i understand the mechanic.
If your guns are already loaded and you want to swap ammunition types, then you double press the appropriate key and the gun reload cycle starts anew at full duration (say, 12 seconds for many of these German heavy cruisers). Gun Feeder reduces this by 50%, so you can change ammunition types on the fly faster. It is very useful if you are engaging a target with HE who then opts to make a turn you weren't expecting; you can swap to AP and punish him faster than you could otherwise. For heavy cruisers, it's a great skill IMHO.
Thanks that was great
Nice video, thanks.
Will you recommend Main Battery Modification 2 over Aiming? Since in video you said the revert speed is slow. BTW good video.
Since no one answered, I will give you my opinion. No, it's very good and spamming from distance and using throttle to avoid incoming fire. You don't want to be engaging at close range unless you absolutely have too. She is good at kiting and it presents a very small target when seen from the rear. Having the aiming device means more of your shells will hit their target. Her ideal situation is camped behind an island near a cap, but don't play this style until you have concealment on your captain. As getting there is extremely rough if you don't have concealment. Glhf
Don't be aggressive early game ... learned that one the hard way
After several hours with the German line, along with other more nimble cruisers I felt pretty confident in my ability to dodge shells, or at least angle enough to take little damage .....
Yorck is a different beast entirely ... there is a non insignificant chance, regardless of your angling, dodging, etc a single battleship shell will instantly delete you.
I try to avoid playing aggressively, while also aiding my team, I always seem to get caught whenever my flank collapses, or folks just start turning out hard to kite .. I know the second I turn in I will be deleted .. can't show anything with this ship, and even than nothing is still too much ...
the best way to play Yorck is to flank and sneak up on your target then face your bows directly at them and charge, the AP shells will quickly grind down most ships to nothing, even battleships in that tier aren't safe, just using the front guns will be more than sufficient at point blank.
I've destroyed at least 3 Hipper class T8 cruisers by singling them out on the edge of the map, the faster firing rate on those big guns will trump the higher tier long range guns every time, its the same formula that makes the T5 Bayern class BB so good
Great video on Yorck. I was a little hesitant to initially get her, but she has proven to be a good cruiser. I think her double set of torps are good, good firepower, her AP hits hard. I like your Capt. build, am altering mine to mirror yours overall, she is a good cruiser.
Great video on Yorck. I was a little hesitant to initially get her, but she has proven to be a good cruiser. I think her double set of torps are good, good firepower, her AP hits hard. I like your Capt. build, am altering mine to mirror yours, overall, she is a good cruiser.
Back when I played her the AP did nothing but shatter against any ship(I’m shooting an Atlanta at point blank and doing no damage) but the HE always felt nice doing 5-7k a salvo
@@nikoclesceri2267 Thanks for the reply. You are correct, I meant to say HE, instead I said AP. Her HE is very good. Thanks for correcting me.
Yorck's HE has always been good; in fact, it remains the best HE of any German cruiser in the tech tree. Her AP has undergone some changes over the years. When she initially launched, Yorck used some kind of ancient World War I AP shell that lost tremendous velocity - and thus, penetration value - past about 10km. The shell was unusable at range. Somewhere in the past couple of years WG made some corrections and Yorck's AP is now effective at all ranges, similar to how the subsequent ships in the line work.
@@leonarddriller2608 I wasn't correcting you, I haven't played Yorch since like 2016 I assumed that things may have changed since then. sorry
@@nikoclesceri2267 Please accept my apology, I know you weren't correcting me, I was correcting myself with your help. Nothing to be sorry about.
I like Hipper better. . . But I will take a Yorck in a Tier IX game over a Hipper in a Tier X game anytime. In the real world the difference between 205mm and 210 mm would be insignificant. But it seems to make a difference. I haven’t made an actual study, but it seems like armor and penetration schemes have been built around controlling impact of the the standard 8” heavy cruiser gun, which may be why the slightly higher caliber is more effective.
the hipper is not as good as Yorck imo, the health increase is nice but aside from that its worse in every other way, its harder to maneuver, its a huge target, bad concealment, slower firing guns in exchange for a little extra damage and range, its almost a downgrade. I still like the Hipper class because it looks good but it doesn't offer much compared to what the Yorck can do at T7
Yorck is hands down the best ship in the game, nobody expects that much out of it which is what makes it so good. My whole team had died on me and it was either 1v2 or 1v3 and it completely destroyed everything, there was only one ship left and everyone was calling me stupid for chasing it down instead of holding our advantage, but I didn't really care if we won or not and just wanted to play stupid hard. I headed towards middle map and peered around the corner, sitting in-between 3 large rocks was same tier Japanese or American battleship with over half health sailing between the rocks and decided to go full speed at it, those 200mm guns devastated a slightly angled battleship point blank range with just the forward guns firing AP i won the match with a Kraken, I had like a quarter health left did not expect to survive, best game I ever played, overpowered ship in my opinion
Sorry but the main thing I disagree with is the start of the match. Not pushing up and supporting your dd is a massive mistake imo. If your dd dies on you flank, you usually lose it. If they trade its still a 50/50. There is a big difference between shooting a dd at 15km or 10km with the amount of shells that will land. The amount of games I have won a flank by blasting a unsuspecting dd by pushing up hard at the start behind that island or any island. This applies at every level. From tier 4 to tier 10. Especially in the current meta where one cr is the norm on a flank. So a cruiser not pushing up with the dd, can sign the death note if the enemy cruiser does. Edited to fix spelling
If I were in a light cruiser or a radar heavy cruiser, I would probably agree with you. In something like a Baltimore - 10km detection and 10km radar - that kind of play makes sense. In a ship like Yorck or Hipper - 12km detection on 5.5 or 6km hydro - it's likely a death sentence for the cruiser player.
I play a lot of destroyer, enough to know that there are risks you can and can't take early in a game depending on your matchmaking. A lot of destroyer players in the modern game struggle to learn that lesson, or simply refuse to learn it altogether and barrel into caps when they shouldn't. A good cruiser player behind them often won't make the difference in an early cap, but a live cruiser later in the game can frequently have a big impact.
It's true for destroyers and for cruisers: never trade your ship for a capture zone (in like 99% of situations).
@@SeaRaptor thanks for the response, and laying out you logic. I don't agree with that take but hey, that's life. Hope you have a great year.
English cruiser or german cruiser?
The spelling is very NOT the English one. =)
@@SeaRaptor Which is better, English cruiser or German cruiser?
@@gezegenlermerkur4058 I prefer the Germans. The British light cruisers are fun and unique, but they are not good all-arounders. The British heavy cruisers ARE good all-arounders, but have worse armor schemes than the Germans.
@@SeaRaptor Thanks for the answer
its not working for me... if i rush. i die...
if i wait, around the 5 min mark i get crossmaped by bb. or team gets rolled over
Skill issue.
Double? You mean half
ironically on the whole german battlecruisers are better cruisers (if you wanna play them like that) , and now days german hydro on them is nerfed . they lag behind everybody else in the german tree tier for tier
I wish wargaming let go of their hate against the Germans
i wish hipper had heal...
Prinz Eugen has almost identical stats and a heal, but its a premium…
@@lovrokapel363 Nah, Hipper has a 3 second faster reload. Take it from someone that has both ships, The Prinz and the Hipper are very evenly matched, The hipper having better firepower (by no small margin) and the Prinz being more survivable (by no small margin)