Devices mentioned, other videos and sources: Amazon Echo: amzn.to/3kceCQ6 Amazon Echo Dot: amzn.to/3Sbbdh1 Apple HomePod Gen 2: www.bestbuy.com/site/apple-homepod-2nd-generation-smart-speaker-with-siri-midnight/6519336.p?skuId=6519336 Apple TV 4K: amzn.to/3lRjbzJ Apple HomePod Mini: www.bestbuy.com/site/apple-homepod-mini-space-gray/6377587.p?skuId=6377587 Apple iPhone 14 Pro: amzn.to/3Sf3HSe Google Nest Hub: www.bestbuy.com/site/nest-hub-7-smart-display-with-google-assistant-2nd-gen-chalk/6450820.p?skuId=6450820 Google Nest Hub Max: www.bestbuy.com/site/nest-hub-max-smart-display-with-google-assistant-charcoal/6348562.p?skuId=6348562 Google Pixel 7 Pro: amzn.to/3IdSzQP Other Videos: How to Start a Smart Home: th-cam.com/video/TTpkECCNAPg/w-d-xo.html Apple HomePod Gen 2 - Worth Buying 2 for Stereo Pair? th-cam.com/video/1_Vhn95IW58/w-d-xo.html Nest Hub Max Review: th-cam.com/video/jl9oJEldhFc/w-d-xo.html Nest Hub Review: th-cam.com/video/c4EYWCA4CBY/w-d-xo.html Amazon Echo Review: th-cam.com/video/tASDxWVw0xI/w-d-xo.html HomePod Mini Review: th-cam.com/video/x5l7W1eVzbA/w-d-xo.html Sources: What is Thread? www.theverge.com/23165855/thread-smart-home-protocol-matter-apple-google-interview Matter’s Plan to save the Smart Home www.theverge.com/22787729/matter-smart-home-standard-apple-amazon-google What Matters about Matter www.theverge.com/22832127/matter-smart-home-products-thread-wifi-explainer Matter products are comping and here’s everything that’s been announced www.theverge.com/23568091/matter-compatible-devices-accessories-apple-amazon-google-samsung
So if i understand correctly, if i have some hue bulps but not the bridge, then a google home hub, or other thread controller can act as a bridge for the bulps?
I have philips hue bridge that support matter and connected tp router, then when i add a smart bulb light that has been support matter but google home/smarthings said that i have to get one google nest or smarthing hub ? So i wondering about philips hue bridge new version that i have already. So it useless?
The one common thing I've seen is people hoping Matter will allow them to play music on different smart speakers, but sadly, this is not the case. Matter has no impact whatsoever on smart home speakers. So the rules around AirPlay 2 and Chromecast still applies, even if speakers are upgraded to Matter. - Josh
Good explanation but it still doesn't explain how to setup Matter. I really feel like Matter is just one big joke because I don't know how it can be leveraged if there is no interface. Essentially you hook up your devices the same way you usually hook it up aaaaaand... now that is a matter device? lol And talking about our devices already acting as a bridge but a bridge to what? Is Matter just a philosophy and wishful thinking since there is no interface? Genuinely asking because I've been searching how to set this up because I have about 60 smart home devices and don't understand how to get access to Matter and leverage it. Any help or resources is welcomed
Essentially, the whole point of matter is you're not supposed to have to set it up. Your existing smart home devices should just upgrade to it (if they can). Remember, it's a standard, it's like email, HTTPS, Bluetooth, etc, it's an underlying technology that allows devices to communicate with each other. The problem with Matter right now is it hasn't rolled out to everything yet. When it does, in theory, you'll be able to control more smart devices in your existing smart home platforms (Apple Home, Google Home, Alexa, Homey, Home Assistant, Samsung Smart Things etc.) So for example, my Nest Doorbell should show up in my Apple Home app when both the Nest Doorbell and Apple Home platform both support matter. Hope that makes sense! - Josh
@@6MonthsLater got it. I found more material to better understand it's utility. However, I think a crucial aspect to note for the current setup of Matter is the hub device that can connect other IR and Bluetooth devices to allow them to communicate cross-functionally to apple, Google, and Amazon. I've been looking into switchbot hub 2 to get me started but one thing Matter is lacking is security cam compatibility. Learning more and I do like the idea but it's so niche that it's going to be at least 5 years away from the general population to adopt it. It's a very confusing product that everyone seems to struggle to explain to someone that doesn't know it
Is up to 250 devices really future proof? If some day every appliance, socket, lamp and sensor becomes thread enabled, that pool gets quickly exhausted for mederately sized homes.
Thank you for the video, but you are wrong about Thread. Yes, in theory all Thread Devices could form single network, but in reality Google and Apple had created two separate networks in my home and I am unaware of any simple way of merging them.
This was a very clear and concise instruction on the subject of Matter and Thread. I am installing the same right now and feel fortunate to see this instructional. Bravo! Are there any WIFI 7 networking devices that support Thread and Matter?
So in about 6 months I’ll finally be able to get a thread power meter that works with Google nest hub. About at the same time as raspberrys will be available 😅
It’s a bit complicated looking at multiple platforms, but it’s fairly straightforward. If you use apple home, you can now use any matter compatible bulb or plug (no need for home kit). You just need a matter controller and router like a homepod.
Well, it's about a smart home, so, yeah. People can jump through all kinds of hoops so that in the end they can pick a lamp in the menu instead of flipping the switch on the wall.
As of now (02/24) matter is still shit and as it is over wifi or over thread, its still the same wave length with all the negative properties it holds. Matter is a dead born standard. Well of course, its american.
I am disgusted by “thread” the devices are expensive and do not even work properly, bluetooth low energy was basically stalling for time and making some money because wow now you can do it with your phone. They say that “thread” secure but is it really plus not many devices can support so much IoT devices that don’t work as they should Z-wave is by far the most secure and reliable out of them all every z-wave device continued working after they upgraded smartthings and they are all just interoperable z-wave more than zigbee but what about the phillips hue tap button that doesn’t require batteries
The only thing to understand in that we are soon in August 2023 and it still does not work or has IOT thmap to use. It in another dead on arrival standard, period.
Devices mentioned, other videos and sources:
Amazon Echo: amzn.to/3kceCQ6
Amazon Echo Dot: amzn.to/3Sbbdh1
Apple HomePod Gen 2: www.bestbuy.com/site/apple-homepod-2nd-generation-smart-speaker-with-siri-midnight/6519336.p?skuId=6519336
Apple TV 4K: amzn.to/3lRjbzJ
Apple HomePod Mini: www.bestbuy.com/site/apple-homepod-mini-space-gray/6377587.p?skuId=6377587
Apple iPhone 14 Pro: amzn.to/3Sf3HSe
Google Nest Hub: www.bestbuy.com/site/nest-hub-7-smart-display-with-google-assistant-2nd-gen-chalk/6450820.p?skuId=6450820
Google Nest Hub Max: www.bestbuy.com/site/nest-hub-max-smart-display-with-google-assistant-charcoal/6348562.p?skuId=6348562
Google Pixel 7 Pro: amzn.to/3IdSzQP
Other Videos:
How to Start a Smart Home: th-cam.com/video/TTpkECCNAPg/w-d-xo.html
Apple HomePod Gen 2 - Worth Buying 2 for Stereo Pair? th-cam.com/video/1_Vhn95IW58/w-d-xo.html
Nest Hub Max Review: th-cam.com/video/jl9oJEldhFc/w-d-xo.html
Nest Hub Review: th-cam.com/video/c4EYWCA4CBY/w-d-xo.html
Amazon Echo Review: th-cam.com/video/tASDxWVw0xI/w-d-xo.html
HomePod Mini Review: th-cam.com/video/x5l7W1eVzbA/w-d-xo.html
Sources:
What is Thread?
www.theverge.com/23165855/thread-smart-home-protocol-matter-apple-google-interview
Matter’s Plan to save the Smart Home
www.theverge.com/22787729/matter-smart-home-standard-apple-amazon-google
What Matters about Matter
www.theverge.com/22832127/matter-smart-home-products-thread-wifi-explainer
Matter products are comping and here’s everything that’s been announced
www.theverge.com/23568091/matter-compatible-devices-accessories-apple-amazon-google-samsung
This was by far the best explanation I’ve heard of Matter so far. Well done… 😀
Glad it was helpful!
Yes me too😊
Definitely the best out of the videos I just watched everyone else made it seem like it’s own device
You explained Matter very well.
Thank you.
Thank you for this. What comes next after Matter?
Good explanation
So if i understand correctly, if i have some hue bulps but not the bridge, then a google home hub, or other thread controller can act as a bridge for the bulps?
I have philips hue bridge that support matter and connected tp router, then when i add a smart bulb light that has been support matter but google home/smarthings said that i have to get one google nest or smarthing hub ? So i wondering about philips hue bridge new version that i have already. So it useless?
Would matter allow me to stop using all the other hubs(phillips hue,aqara ms1) ive bought and run them all through my homepod instead?
Setting up matter smart devices should be easy 💯
I have a Philips Hue hub, can I link it and control even more with my SmartThings hub?
Amazing video! It was very helpful, Thank you!
You're welcome!
Thanks for helping explain everything
You're welcome!
I can't believe this is legal to own. Madness.
Nest mini has been updated to matter. How come I can't set up the nest mini to apple home
Interesting, what were you hoping to do with the Nest Mini once it was in Apple Home?
@@6MonthsLater didn't get that far. You're right. What is there to do💀😅❓❓
The one common thing I've seen is people hoping Matter will allow them to play music on different smart speakers, but sadly, this is not the case. Matter has no impact whatsoever on smart home speakers. So the rules around AirPlay 2 and Chromecast still applies, even if speakers are upgraded to Matter. - Josh
@@6MonthsLaterwas just thinking this, thank you!
@@6MonthsLater that answers all my questions. That's what had me puzzled. I'll stick with one eco system with a hint of matter
What is Matter controller?
Really lookinğ forward to matter supported devices releasing, cause my homepod mini apparently does the job already to support it :)
Good explanation but it still doesn't explain how to setup Matter. I really feel like Matter is just one big joke because I don't know how it can be leveraged if there is no interface. Essentially you hook up your devices the same way you usually hook it up aaaaaand... now that is a matter device? lol And talking about our devices already acting as a bridge but a bridge to what? Is Matter just a philosophy and wishful thinking since there is no interface? Genuinely asking because I've been searching how to set this up because I have about 60 smart home devices and don't understand how to get access to Matter and leverage it. Any help or resources is welcomed
Essentially, the whole point of matter is you're not supposed to have to set it up. Your existing smart home devices should just upgrade to it (if they can). Remember, it's a standard, it's like email, HTTPS, Bluetooth, etc, it's an underlying technology that allows devices to communicate with each other. The problem with Matter right now is it hasn't rolled out to everything yet. When it does, in theory, you'll be able to control more smart devices in your existing smart home platforms (Apple Home, Google Home, Alexa, Homey, Home Assistant, Samsung Smart Things etc.) So for example, my Nest Doorbell should show up in my Apple Home app when both the Nest Doorbell and Apple Home platform both support matter. Hope that makes sense! - Josh
@@6MonthsLater got it. I found more material to better understand it's utility. However, I think a crucial aspect to note for the current setup of Matter is the hub device that can connect other IR and Bluetooth devices to allow them to communicate cross-functionally to apple, Google, and Amazon. I've been looking into switchbot hub 2 to get me started but one thing Matter is lacking is security cam compatibility. Learning more and I do like the idea but it's so niche that it's going to be at least 5 years away from the general population to adopt it. It's a very confusing product that everyone seems to struggle to explain to someone that doesn't know it
Is up to 250 devices really future proof? If some day every appliance, socket, lamp and sensor becomes thread enabled, that pool gets quickly exhausted for mederately sized homes.
250 are per Network if you want more you just need another Network
I don't understand why people need hubs? I'm using wifi connected smart devices, just slap 1 wifi router at home and done. What's benefit using hubs?
Cuz it can fix automatical working.if u haven't a hub ,only use devices manually via network.
Thank you for the video, but you are wrong about Thread. Yes, in theory all Thread Devices could form single network, but in reality Google and Apple had created two separate networks in my home and I am unaware of any simple way of merging them.
Great info 👍
Glad it was helpful!
This was a very clear and concise instruction on the subject of Matter and Thread. I am installing the same right now and feel fortunate to see this instructional. Bravo! Are there any WIFI 7 networking devices that support Thread and Matter?
Still waiting for Amazon Echo to support Thread Matter devices like from Eve Home.
In the end, it doesn’t even matter.
Sure Google home works with mother and thread BUT Google home does NOT has local control and it loses thread devices...
So in about 6 months I’ll finally be able to get a thread power meter that works with Google nest hub. About at the same time as raspberrys will be available 😅
Sounds like a pile of hassle
It’s a bit complicated looking at multiple platforms, but it’s fairly straightforward. If you use apple home, you can now use any matter compatible bulb or plug (no need for home kit). You just need a matter controller and router like a homepod.
Well, it's about a smart home, so, yeah. People can jump through all kinds of hoops so that in the end they can pick a lamp in the menu instead of flipping the switch on the wall.
I know this was a year ago, but it's been rock solid for me.
As of now (02/24) matter is still shit and as it is over wifi or over thread, its still the same wave length with all the negative properties it holds. Matter is a dead born standard. Well of course, its american.
I am disgusted by “thread” the devices are expensive and do not even work properly, bluetooth low energy was basically stalling for time and making some money because wow now you can do it with your phone. They say that “thread” secure but is it really plus not many devices can support so much IoT devices that don’t work as they should Z-wave is by far the most secure and reliable out of them all every z-wave device continued working after they upgraded smartthings and they are all just interoperable z-wave more than zigbee but what about the phillips hue tap button that doesn’t require batteries
Wifi Matter everything 😂
Hi
Hi， would you like to collab?
The only thing to understand in that we are soon in August 2023 and it still does not work or has IOT thmap to use. It in another dead on arrival standard, period.