NOT OUR WAR: Africans fleeing Ukraine - BBC Africa Eye documentary
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- It’s estimated thousands of Africans were among more than five million refugees fleeing the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
As they tried to escape the carnage, many Africans were treated like second class citizens. Reports of discrimination at Ukraine’s western borders were widespread with the UN High Commissioner for Refugees acknowledging racist treatment.
BBC Africa journalist, Peter Okwoche, was at the Polish border reporting on the African experience days after war broke out. In the weeks which followed he also spoke to many Africans still caught up in the conflict.
Did they make it to safety? Africa Eye investigates.
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This is why I am going back home from Uk after 12 years ... we need to rebuild our countries too .enough of building other peoples countries
First every political and president in Africa must go to jail!
If not
You can't achieve this plan,
I said must go to jail
@@EbusArt exactly!
The only good politician you ever had on that continent was Lumumba. But then 🤷🏻♀️ you know, he was murdered.
They paid you to build thre country....
😆😆😆... kick all your corrupt leaders....😆😆😆
@@gemini71ize true
@paul Pauloo thank you , I tried it 3 years ago but was able to handle only 5 days...Will try again this year..hopefully I do 5 years
Stay in Africa, stay home,built your countries, get rid of the corrupt leaders who are stealing all the resources
The people stealing from them are there government who happen to be black,oh dear
Don't speak of something you don't know
Sensible comment
Mahad mohamed keep speaking the truth of a golden continent where corrupt leaders doing nothing just their familly .
@@victormundia4979 That's what's happening though. Everyone knows this.
They is a Zimbabwean young man who was waiting at the boarder of Poland waiting for Africans to cross so he can take them to safety shelter water and food in his lil car he was reported to have been helping to over 250 Africans a day if you’re seeing this my brother I respect you and I hope the gods and your ancestors remember you and bless you you’re a hero
There is only One Elohim! He is the LORD Sabaoth: the Holy One of Israel! There is no other false gods before Him or after Him! He is the firstborn of every creature and everything that’s made by Him is for Him: whether it be thrones, dominions, principalities or powers. All things are made by Him and by Him all things consist! You will soon recognize that He is LORD! This is the same Spirit who protects the just as well as the unjust! For He is a Spirit and they that worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in Truth! 🤴🏾🕎💙🤍💜🕊
Hearing stories like this is really important in hard times, thank you for sharing, he is a hero for humanity
@@Yah-Izoa-Hakaboth who told you God is a woman Mr yah
His a hero
Every knee shall bow down and confess that I am GOD
Oh, so you want all the benefits that Ukraine offers you but you go back to your country the moment something goes wrong. Got it!
Did you even watch the video…you ignorant man/woman? Did you hear the part where a Ukrainian official said if you’re black, you’ll walk! Did you hear????
And have the guts to say everybody is racist, when i get scammed by nigerian prince and i assume all nigerians are scammers, wait for the shitstorm. This is racist video.
well thats why you proof to the embassy that you woulf go back after studies. so stop talking nonsence
What benefits..?
Did you watch the full video? Would you fight an African war if you only went there for school?
I never understood why we go places where we are not wanted?? We need to build our own institutions and progress from there.
I can guarantee you're not really welcome in Eastern and Southerm Europe. My family confirms it openly, unfortunately. (I am an exception, one in ten.)
Russia and China are two countries that could help Africa and Africans...the west are not the only ones with technology anymore.
@@GeorgeFafa why do Africa need help from these countries?? Africa has the resources and agriculture to produce for themselves instead of of countries stealing from what they have. Knowledge is power but dependent on another country is not self sustaining
@@ybuckw248 I mean, just yesterday the news dropped about huge gold reservoirs having been found in Nigeria, and guess what? The Chinese will dig it out. So either Nigeria doesn't have the equipment nor knowledge to farm gold, or their leaders are corrupt and sell the rights to foreigners for a quick cash grab. Or both.
@@ybuckw248 Never said NEED the help. But need some help they do. In lots of areas, not every country can do agriculture. especially in Africa. Resources are elsewhere also but to get to them, technology is needed. It is very, but very hard to not cooperate with anyone these times. The point being with China and Russia, they wont be such assholes as the west.
I am a Black American, I was living in Kharkiv Ukraine when the war began, the bus driver near the polish border had me and 2 Africans on the bus hide from the Ukrainian military at different checkpoints….
That is a crying shame right there...he had to hide you all to keep those Caucasians from pulling you all off, but they be claiming Christianity (it is full of paganism) and be so called trying to have all our Hebrew bloodline to do the same. I am so glad rhat these are the last days and more of those secret things saved for these times are being revealed.
Wow ...glad yall made it out.
All praises to The Most High! But it's very sad that you had to do that at all. Pray for these leaders and pray we can love one another
Glad you made it out
@@ladykspeaks3740 thanks
The remedy to this problem is for the so-called African leaders to stop the damn corruption and pay attention to developing their countries and providing the basic needs for their people.
I sent many $1k's to Africa over the decades, but they have NEVER done a damn thing to improve the lot of the people - corruption, crime, violence, starvation, tragedy, lack of education etc etc all still rampant so I'll find somewhere else deserving to donate to that does not have corruption in its DNA!
@@dfraser2462 if you want to help people in Africa, donate to homeless shelters or even the red cross. I live in Africa, and our governments are a joke.
Exactly
@@dfraser2462 Everywhere was corruption you can’t escape it and Africa is a continent you can’t just donate to it you donate to individual countries.Plus it’s not the peoples fault that their government is like that they just have less means to stop it than people in Europe etc
@@di7209 There's corruption, and then there's endemic corruption, and the latter certainly does NOT exist to any degree in First World countries where grafting is not as natural as breathing. By first world countries, I'm referring to those who send the most Aid such as Canada, USA, UK, Australia, New Zealand, as opposed to the now decimated Europe & beyond full of grafting second-world countries.
"Not the peoples fault ....." what, that so very many scams originate there, and if there's a way to steal money from good, decent, unsuspecting people either online or via telephone, Authorities don't have to work too hard to figure out where the scammers are, that's not the peoples fault .... really? It's actually become a national sport playing with scammers - they're all over facebook stealing Western World's photos of horses, boats, houses and putting them up to sale for sale & making people pay deposits via Western Union etc Bloody hilarious when we spend hours & hours talking to them about horses that they know absolutely NOTHING about and their answers are published in all the horse groups for everyone to have a good giggle over.
I donated $1k's through organised charities, I put several boys through school & Uni, hoping to make a small contribution to societal change - NO CHANGE, not 20+ years ago, not today, which actually seems much worse.
I wonder if there is a country in the world with no racism? My heart goes to everyone who had to experience it.
This is why Africa should be rebuilt, re-energised, revamped and secured so we as tenants in those countries won't have to be thrown out or caught in the fire every time the landlord and his wife quarrel.
This is why Africa should be....easier said than done!
Very good anology
The problem is most of Africa is being economically raped by its former colonial masters. Ukraine is supports the colonial rapist. Russia has help African liberation movements. Africans in Ukraine should be undercover agents for Russia.
NGL you Africa’s need to start building your own country no more excuses you guys need results stop playing with hyenas and get to fucking work 👌
Even in the darkest hour, some White people still discriminate based on
skin color. As the reporter said, "You are fighting a war and you have
time for racism" Why? This is terrible and I cannot fathom it.
Anyone who decides to go back after that treatment will get no additional sympathy from me. There’s no way I’d even consider flying over that country much less visiting or living there after being treated like that.
Sorry to say this but you already know that they will...
Even in the darkest hour, some White people still discriminate based on skin color. As the reporter said, "You are fighting a war and you have time for racism" Why? This is terrible and I cannot fathom it.
Africans are looking for their Zaddy. 😂 They have no dignity or food 😂
And why they don't let enter the "Black" womens and childeren into trains, and also at borders of Ukraine -Poland ??
This is a wake up call for Africans to ask their government for accountability so that there would never be any reason for Africans to leave Africa for greener pastures elsewhere
We need to take accountability. That Ugandan couple had babies in Ukraine and speak perfect languages for Russia and Ukraine. Am Ugandan myself, I have lived in the US for years, same situation. My kids haven't been to Uganda yet. Guess what, I made a choice where I settled due to different reasons. When the 🇺🇸 gets attacked, am not going online to cry to go back to Uganda. Am fighting for I made my choices of where to live.
When shit hit the fan in african countries europeans go to their embassy and get flown out back to their countries🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
I totally agree. I understand the students trying to escape but if you're a permanent resident or citizen, it's noble to stay and fight.
Couldn't agree more with this statement.
@@bellewells3590 No, it isn't noble to fight for a country that treats you racistly and never sees you as Ukrainian.
@@slickrick2420 but they were living there all along enjoying the country's benefits and no one was complaining. I feel sorry for the women and children but men need to stay and fight. If a country goes through a disaster, their first priority is their citizens we all know that. Plus there were warnings of war for months before all this. They had time to escape this tho. It was all over the news, the US telling its citizens to evacuate. If they didn't want to fight, why did they stay there?
"not our war"... yes exactly, this should be the same sentence our navy should say to all your immigrants from Nigeria that illegally enter in our countries every day, considering that you are not escaping from any war. Poland did well to not accept them inside. "Never protect someone that won't protect you if you are in danger". this is the clear example.
They said they are students incase you missed out on that! So do you expect them to join the military with those racist Ukrainians who would push them behind the queue?
You are just displaying your racism here!
@@Zazezoo the racist Ukrainians you are talking about are under attack and they are facing a war. you don't deserve more answers. Just tell me, since your name is "Arabic cookie" how does it feel for the Umma looking millions of refugees being welcomed by the racist Europe instead from the rich, opulent and materialistic Qatar, Emirates, Bahrein and Saudi Arabia? Hypocrisy hurts my buddy
I know Becky Adong (and her family). We arrived in Kharkov, Ukraine in the same year. Am grateful to God that I left in 2010. I know the Ojimadu family as well. Am glad to know that they are safe. I pray that God protects His people.
human shields .. they cant leave
You made the right choice to leave.
@@TsarOfRuss it's not that, its just the law is fucked up, it only has to do with a bureaucracy
God coulnt protect his white son jezus, do you think that god will protect africans. Stay with facts and not in faith.
If you have Becky’s number or contact tell her to contact Gento jamal my Facebook was hacked the only link i hard with them.
Africans flee and won’t fight in their own countries how do you expect for him to fight in Ukraine
Spineless
African people in Ukraine are met with racism so why would they fight for people that hate them?
some nitwit doesn't know history.
Cowards!!!!
Ukrainians are fleeting too. What this video is about. Ukrainians abroad refusing to come back. They had to kidnap old men and women on the street. So if the *y*t*e criminal, oligarchs, fascists can leave, and the average immigrant citizen (as they have several from war torn EU countries), they should be able to leave to.
Ukrainian people have enough on their hands already and black people really out here making it about themselves...
I was pushing these horror stories to friends and family in the United States. I'm glad to see that you have put it all together here. The other side of my anger is with the African embassies. Where were they? How could they abandon their citizens like that?
Your ignorance is very scary. Ukraine urged them to stay and assured their embassies it was ok up until the invasion. It's also very difficult to evacuate citizens in warzones when one side is a white supremacist nation.
My brother, i can understand that situation but i cant understand how some can sell their soul for riches...for many, the desire to feel luke somebody they will sell everything. I look at many of my people here in the U.S., how to become a star or famous you will have to boot lick and 💋 butt to get certain positions and ro hold them. Many of them are joining these secret societies in order to go up the ladder, but this opens the door way for them to serve Satan unaware until it is made known. Everything that gliters isnt gold!!!
lmao is that the first thing that you think about why the embassy wont send help REALLY ??? is that really why your angry ?? if they wanted to leave shouldnt they leave. stop making these excuses for yourself. where is your europe why did they leave ukraine to their destiny dont they have a treaty to help the ukrainers from russian invasion in trade of their nucleir weapons ???
Because they don't care about its own people
@@jameswilson8820
Do the Ukrainians care about there own people?
The Ukrainians will be always remembered that Africans run away when they need help the most.
The entire African continent and India are going to remember that even in war, Ukrainians had time and energy to be racist.
And then had the audacity to want people they were being racist to, to join their fight. Entitledness
@peristera mpazo please they don’t owe Ukraine anything. If you think living in a garage makes you a car then you are truly naive
@@karenlang4776 being a student in a racist country doesn’t take away racism. Most of you keyboard warriors live a block away from your great grandmas with no experience whatsoever Of some of these issues. Get yourself a ticket, go live in Ukrain or one of those Eastern European countries if you belong to another ethnicity and come back and tell us after a year otherwise shut the hell up for you don’t know what you are talking about
@@karenlang4776 For the same reasons that Asians, Arabs and Africans go study, etc in various Western countries that end up showing their racist streaks. The mere fact that other races found it necessary to be in Ukraine is not evidence that Ukraine isn't racist. Even Nazi Germany at some point had naive Jews visiting there before the concentration camps. If I used your reasoning, Nazi Germany couldn't have hated Jews if there were any non-German Jews who visited there.
Before: We love Ukraine.
After: This is not our country.
Many Africans did love Ukraine, but after the racist acts made to many Africans began to hate Ukrainians. It’s sad because many Ukrainians are not like this.
Is it a lie ? Is it our country ? Racist people
@@justsaying9545 Umm, Ukrainian women and children had to walk and wait for hours too... This is BS, special treatment seekers who thought the world will drop everything and roll out red carpet for them to cross... These people are foreign nationals and weren't granted permission to enter Polish border at the time this was filmed.
@@justsaying9545 So how should these cowards should be treated? They had time to make arrangements with their consulate beforehand but they didn't. They enjoyed free tuition, and had no issues with discrimination but come time to let women and children of the country leave, they all of a sudden feel discrimination? They bailed so fast that they left their coats, pathetic! Perhaps it's that same entitled mentality that they have some priority over citizens because they're black and owe nothing to Ukraine. And those sad excuses who lived in Ukraine for YEARS but ran out saying NOT OUR WAR, because they are of different color all of a sudden they're just visiting or something. And NO, Polish govt under no obligation to take them in, even though they DID. THESE cowards say they want peace but Somalia, Rwanda, Tigray are committing genocide of their own people and nothing is being done... They just want peace wherever they drift to, they do absolutely nothing to deserve it. Ukraine has to fight to get their peace, these cowards run and complain because people aren't jumping for joy to have them over... They deserve the treatment they got!!!!
Don’t worry we going to remember this I hope they safe that’s the only thing I can say but I do not want them back in my country a lot of them was for free and everything for free now we are bad people we need positive energy we don’t need this nonsense they wanted to another country to take them and they didn’t even want to go back to that ain’t country and that’s the truth but now they want to play this race car Ukraine is the only country that take all type of people when they become refugees we get them food we get them home we give them everything the whole you’re a reject those people Polon do not take no refugees from Africa nor those places from the Middle East also we take everybody now we race
"second class citizens"
dude they arent citizens, they are exchange students.
they dont have citizenship.
btw i agree they have no reason to fight for ukraine, they are exchange students they are there to learn, not fight. but you cant be treated as a second class citizen if you arent a citizen in the fist place.
my question is more of how much did african governments do to get their people out.
if they have an exchange program youd think theyd have consular services that knew where their people are, can contact them and help them find a way out of the country.
Africa is broke dont even have enough money to fuel the plane to send 😂
You didn't see the men that have been there 40 years, 17 years? Why didn't they offer to fight like all Ukrainians men were required to do? At the first threat, all the sudden it's not their country, not their war. Some would call that traitors.
@@joehalliday6081 should have given them citizenship if they are there 17-40 years.
if they arent citizens, its not their fight, no matter how long they have been there.
if they have citizenship, but still try to run, they are traitors, i agree.
looking at it, one big problem is that you need to renounce your other citizenships to get ukrainian citizenship, you cant have dual citizenship, that probably stopped many from getting full ukrainian citizenship, instead going for residency or equivalents.
you dont loose your ukrainian citizenship when you get an other passport, but you need to renounce your other citizenships when you get the ukrainian passport.
@@flavho this is funny to you? You’ve absolutely no humanity my goodness
Not you war. Not your country. Don't try to go back for work when the war calms down
Go back to where? Ukraine is done my boy, from now on it's Ukraine, Russia 🇷🇺
@@topnotch6907 Africans everywhere they go...they leave ashes behind
As an African I understand why Africans will take offense to the racism. But for the people who moved to Ukraine for a better life and lived 10+ years it may sound ignorant to say "not my war" but before the war you saw yourself as a Ukrainian citizen and enjoyed the benefits. The students have an excuse cus they only came to study, but African Ukrainian citizens should not make themselves look ungrateful. F*ck the racist Ukrainians! but let's not insult the country itself, this situation could've happened anywhere
Ukraine never gives citizenship to african ,Ukrainians are racist to africans ,living in .Ukraine does not make them Ukrainians, shut up if you have nothing better to say
Come and settle in INDIA, dear AFRICANS.
True but unfortunately yo comment will open the gate for racists to vent
@@dineshbhat7978 most africans know the pain of been I'll treated by indians who look like them
This would be true for most countries, yet the reason Ukraine is this racist today is because of their history. Look at Stepan Bandera, the National Hero of Ukraine. He was the founder of the UPA and main perpetrator of the Genocide in Volhynia against the Poles. The Ukrainian Government has always wanted Ukraine for the Ukrainians. And today some previously Polish territory now belongs to the Ukrainians and no apology has ever been given to the Poles. If they're that mean to Poles, I can only imagine how they are to black people.
I’m upset because the African Government did not get their people just before the war started like the USA
Many students wanted to get out of Ukraine, but not go back to Africa. Not all, but many. This was a document problem too, because they only had visa's for study in Ukraine.
@@therealpollyanna5846 what about Ukrainians given free entrance to Eu countries and Uk?? Are Africans less human?
@@esosaiyamu2581 Ukrainians can only go to the eu but these Africans have a choice between going back or entering eu
The "African Govt"? You're aware Africa is made up of over 50 countries, right? Keep in mind that govts like Nigeria actually made necessary arrangements and actually had envoys stationed at the Polish border to get Nigerians out.
They won’t fight for their own country, much less for another.
You are white..aren't you
How do you know? I wouldn't fight for a country that wouldn't fight for me either. You've gotta be a white person
@@jongfamere8558 I’m not white, but if you come to another country. You don’t take the good only, you have to fight to protect the good life we have. Proud Marine and proud father of my son that will be a defending our country. Stop being racist!!
@@redskins1120 do you remember the foreign nationalists in 1994 .. the genocide ..everywhere white people settle they never fight for the land they are in. Black people don't block them from leaving,in fact,they prioritize them. I even hope putin takes Ukraine and shame the west. White people help whites only.
@@redskins1120 If you do not agree with the victimhood, then you must be racist. That the generic answer.
All those young men are living in Ukraine... Doctors, students, and yet not one of them wanted to help or join forces with the Ukrainian army to liberate the country they called their home, had families and studied... And yet they say they want to go home??? Isn't Ukraine their home??
Only citizens have an obligation to defend the country. There are hundreds of thousands European living in gulf Arabs states, none of which will fight if a Middle East war started.
I hope they all safely get back home.
Being trapped in a war zone is the worst thing anyone could face, especially when you're a foreigner!
I wouldn't want a coward next to me in a fight! Many were cowards fleeing conflicts back home. They were happy to take the generosity of Ukraine, but when it was time to pay the debt for that generosity, they are cowards now. If it was so awful living there, why choose NOW to leave?
@@462-x5n You're just viewing it from one perspective as not everyone can fight and I wouldn't be surprised if you have the forceful expectation that more than 25% of the inmigrants SHOULD join the war effort just to satisfy a bit that unrealistic expectation people, that think like you, have concerning this type of scenarios. Unfortunately, to some extent you're correct, only to take it to a completely apathetic, disingenuous and obtuse stance, by "changing" the order of things, because if you're really cognizant on what really lies underneath both sides' interactions you would know that even if 25% of the african inmigrants would have joined the war effort, those inhuman people that denied them the train, would have done so again, so if you were the inmigrant, how would you proceed??? Fight for people that didn't show any regard for your family and kin or in this case, leave?
Basically there's no incentive for them to fight, only regret if they do.
Setting this in a hypothetical analogy, if I save your life, a total stranger to me, but something really bad happens in my life and then I seek you out to PUSH you into risking your life for my own sake, would you do it?! At the very least, you would ask yourself, what was my whole point in saving your life only to place it in jeopardy again, right?
There's more nuance to this situation than what I wrote, and even more than what you wrote; it's so easy to comment and especially criticize like you did.
Yes, there's an undeniable debt, but one that shouldn't be pushed against someone's will, otherwise that debt takes a different meaning, unless of course you deem their lives in lower value by default for ulterior motives, ungrounded and sickening reasons they might be.
They keep saying it's not there country not there war. Also they are upset they are not being treated like first class with the vulnerable women and children. I'm sure it's not all but every African man I have met has violated my boundaries. They do female genital mutalation and then head over here with a penchant for degrading white women.
@The Lost One It is illegal for nationals of most countries to fight for a foreign nation. In fact you can be jailed for treason and stripped off your nationality. And fighting for another country is one of the few sections which allows for stripping nationality worldwide. This was the law used by Western countries to strip ISIS volunteers. Though the problem there was, when you strip someone, you were automatically accepting that ISIS had a nation. Also, there were many foreign volunteers in the beginning of the war. But the Ukrainians rejected anyone who was not White assuming they were there for the citizenship. The truth could not be farther since most such people normally volunteer in the French or the US military and did not really have to choose Ukraine. Coupled with loss of nationality, it is simply not possible for a foreigner to fight for Ukraine. From the looks of it, Ukrainian society much like Polish one is quite racist and is accepted as normal by the government. We have racism in India to a minor extent, but the state accepts no racism of any form.
@The Lost One THANK YOU!!! Freedom isn't free! It was bought and paid for in blood. You can't enjoy the lifestyle of the West (which they are still doing) and refuse to stand up and defend it. The EU countries are too good to expel them, but that is exactly what I would do. You've shown yourselves to not be deserving of our compassion. Go home! (BTW, I am a BLACK FEMALE from a military family.)
If you're in Ukraine as a citizen -- regardless of race, you should serve if that's what the government wants from you. If you're upset with that, should've stayed where you were.
lmao, this aint call of duty...why fight a losing battle, USA will soon ditch Ukraine and Biden will throw Zelensky under the bus
Hell no, Africans are the minority in Ukraine and are subjected to racism wherever they go. Why the hell would they want to help the country when the country wouldnt spit on you if you was on fire? They wanted the country for themselves so they can fight for it by themselves.
@@DboyRed That's completely regardless, you're talking about the social ramifications if their existence in Ukraine when it comes down to what they received via the Ukrainian government's aid. They were assisted and helped and now is their time to give back if they have been there for enough time to become a citizen. If you believe just because you encountered racism a few times in your country you no longer should be drafted then reality is gonna smack you in the mouth.
I stand with Russia.
Totally agree 👍
My heart goes out to those who are still trapped in Ukraine. I hope they all find an escape route soon. Selah!!!
I also hope those who remain can also use whatever knowledge or skills they have at hand to help in the war effort as best they can. If you can’t get out, then try and use what you can to aid others or fight.
@@danielwhyatt3278 well said.
If they were smart they would go to Russia they would be safe there a lot of people don't know this but there are dark Russians there's even a black Russian that is the mayor of a town in Russia
@@danielwhyatt3278 to defend azov neonazis ? no bro they good
@@hacenesebabiban5948 the nazis will be taken care of. And they are a minority of like a few thousand men.
It's very shameful to hear a guy say “this is not our war”.
U went there to study n improve ur life n something bad happened. U can either help or leave d people in peace. We leave mainland Africa to get better education and life elsewhere, at least war broke out in Ukraine, the least we must have done is to render assistance n stop complaining😢
The people are fighting for their land u went to better standards
Let’s be honest they’re not even loyal to their own country so please don’t expect them to be loyal to the Ukraine it’s not gonna happen.
This should be a good lesson to Africans. Never run away from the poverty and misrule in your country. Better work within to cause a change in your country for the better living
Will the West let them control their destiny ?
@@MizMite2002 same could be said about Ukraine. Russia didn’t want them to control their destiny and their future, yet they are fighting back, not giving up, not running. Their refugees are elderly, women and children, not men, because men are fighting back.
@@crochetomania But Russia is one county, and Nato is a whole block. They have many internal affairs within Africa that are corrupt.(French for example.) I doubt that my comment will have any change on your opinion or way of thinking. But Africa has been exploited far longer than that of Ukraine. And first of all why are we even making these comparisons? The way that Africa and Ukraine has struggled are different. There's no need to cause discourse with comparisons.
@@crochetomania Come on! There are accounts of Ukrainean men paying off the border guards! I'm on the Ukrainean side, by the way! Plenty of men have left Ukraine! Anyway, it's useless to have these debates! No country is perfect, no people group is ideal, esp when looking closer!
Sound great as an idealism! The real world is more brutal! Over all, it is better to get life and educational experiences in a variety of places and cultures, and it looks good on the Resume! Every one wants to improve their lot in life! Hard to 'work within' when there is a widespread corruption and favoritism! It would be like hitting your head against a concrete wall!
Very smart by the African residents to leave why help fight for a country that doesn’t respect you
@Palepride Worldwide keep in mind it’s much cheaper to go to a University in Ukraine 🇺🇦 that’s why a lot people were there also some of them played sports in Ukraine
@Palepride Worldwide is your brain broken?
@@bradley8867 crap
Why live there in the first place?
@Palepride Worldwide ah...where do we begin? Please watch african news from africa.
One of the reasons people leave is that they want to live like europeans. Point blank.
Some Africans are unbelievable who is going to love Africans when they don't love one another amongst themselves
Does anyone one love each other any more? Forget race or geographical continent
Honey you took the words out of my mouth. Amen to You! They are nasty to each other.
@@jackjines3461 you know, after covid 19 all the people in the world should love and care for one another no matter the colour of their skin, I am sick and tired of black and white we all human beings
@@honeyfarah9534 soo racism was ok before covid?
@@Rig0r_M0rtis I am not saying that racism was okay but we can't raise the African kids with hate in their hearts forever what we are talking about is humanity let's think about humanity and forgive one another god will be kind to all humans if we change our point of view of others,
They didn't fight for their own countries what makes you think they would fight for the one that took them in.
Right before the invasion on the 24th Feb, many governments asked their citizens to leave Ukraine, as the invasion was imminent. Why didn't the African governments do the same? It was the right thing to do to prevent such issues.
Above anything, It is the obligation of our home government to protect us, to warn us when we are in danger zones and to take us home if that's the case.
Corrupt African leaders can't do shit
You are kidding right ? Home governments in Africa are the cause of people leaving .
It probably never occurred to the African students to leave, even when everyone else did.
They did its people at the boarder being racist this isn't about the African government. It is the accessibility to leave.
@@leavemeal0ne378 Everybody else left weeks before the conflict started, apart from African and Indian students. It seems sometimes they can't think for themselves. And don't say it was racism at the border, at that point the border was open as normal.
"Everybody's suffering counts" truer words have never been spoken
Everyone does NOT suffer the same things for the same reasons. It seems like wherever Africans are present we will be MADE to suffer the most, even when all we want is to GO HOME.
That's true too and we see how true it is in this instance, dont we?
In a different ways and forms
Even in the darkest hour, some White people still discriminate based on skin color. As the reporter said, "You are fighting a war and you have time for racism" Why? This is terrible and I cannot fathom it.
@peristera mpazo fighting isn’t suffering! European wars have absolutely nothing to do with Africans!
@One Jobless Man Well these caucasian ukrainians that have escaped to the U.S. should have stayed in their own country and fought and not be cowards and run from their own fight. I noticed Biden-Harris weren't opening any doors for the African non-citizens in ukrain that were under attack.
It is a shame that the ambassador to South African just denied the issue rather that saying that they were trying to find solutions. The only genuine thing she said was that everyone was fighting to get out. Indian students also had the same problem. Do we know if anyone at the border died of the cold? A UK newspaper reported eyewitness accounts of people collapsed and vomiting at the side of the road who weren't properly dressed for the weather as they had fled so quickly.
Always blaming South Africa 😞 for your own problems
@@SithembisoNokula lol The Ukrainian ambassodor. Her job is in South Africa. She is not South African.
@@SithembisoNokula ridiculous. No one is blaming south africa. Actually its people like you who make south africa look bad. Learn to read before commenting. The Ukrainian ambassador RSA is not south african so why do you assume she is blaming south africa?
You know what; there’s a line of ukrainian women and children and a line of foreigners, mainly men. They give priority to the ukrainian women and children. Is that fair? No. But don’t make it biggen than it is. That’s what the ambassador ment.
@@JeroenBIG Same treatment was given to females, there was no distinction. A Moroccan student mentions treatment like not being able to go to the gas station to buy tea or use the bathroom, just kept in the non-white group. If you are a non- Ukrainian woman you don't count. There is a video of a black woman with a baby not being allowed on a train and being forced off for a childless individual. It's a problem in a society where non-whites stick out. If something happened in London where I am, people might divide into their groups but you wouldn't be able to hold one group of women back as the society is multi-ethnic.
Time for all to return to their motherlands.
Eat our food, study here, work here and now they flee, classic
You wanna suck what a real man has
ANIKI ANIKI
They should? Just like anyone one else in another country. You are not expected to fight someone elses war. Entitled much ???????
Paid for their food, paid for their education, worked under terms of a paid for visa and fled when an issue that didn't concern them materialized.
Something is wrong with you.
@@H3aven100 someone's else war?? What are you doing in Ukraine in the first place?? After the war they will ban ⬛️
This is the time for African to learn and appreciate their home the way it is..That woman is saying her kids doesn't know their native land that's very ashaming
they are so brainwashed to think since they are in europe everything will be ok coz africa is poor and have war now the tables turn,
She made a good living in Ukraine but didn’t want her husband to fight or help protect it . 😢 very upsetting ,… is she African or Ukrainian ?
The correct view is to say you are of “ AFRICAN heritage , or you immigrated from Africa “ . Take your children to visit and see the culture where they are from … but they are not “ African “
Does anyone understand what it means to be a citizen of a country ?
😢😢 my parents immigrated to 🇺🇸 legally and this “ not my war “ talk from people that did well there in Ukraine literally RIPS out my insides 😭😭.
I worked with SO many American Servicemen that immigrated by serving our nation ,,, or immigrated and then served 💪💪🇺🇸.
I Want to scream 😭😭😡 At the attitude of these “victims “
Jet V. I’m replying from the Uk. I’m with you on this one.
People here are receiving Ukrainian refugees into their homes, direct from Ukrainian war zones after 70 DAYS of war.
These Ukrainian citizens arriving in UK as I write, are females and kids ONLY, who have only now in the last few days managed to escape out of Ukraine.
Here in the Uk, there is a lot of respect and admiration, for the Ukrainian nation based primarily on the fact that they are fighting back against the aggression of Russia and NOT running away.
I too am saddened to hear so many comments on this video of “Not our fight” , general ‘woe is me’ comments, etc. These Africans presumably choose to live in and amongst the general population of Ukraine, but the evidence from this video is that they are completely uncommitted citizens.
The interviewee near the start stated that the border guards where treating “EVERYBODY THE SAME”. In other words, the guards treated everybody badly. Maybe understandably given the general chaos of the moment. So, how has this become a story about race?
The BBC should do a follow up article on volunteers from Ukraines African population who have joined the fight to save Ukrainian civilisation. I for one would happily respect and admire these individuals.
From the evidence of this video I wouldn’t expect a follow up article any time soon.
Ukraine is better off without some of the loathsome characters in this report.
@@jetv1471 but do you know how they will be treated if caught by Russians...Please dont judge Africans.If Europeans are still buying gas from Russia,in away funding the war,why should African sons die in Ukraine? Africa has alot of problems
@@liamkisa9862 the ones I am referring to have been there 40 years
If they can take all the gifts that Ukraine offers why are they not prepared to fight for it
Which gifts? They paid for their education.
BRAVEHEART, LIONHEARTED.....A....FORIEGN LANGUAGE
@@annewilson9301 ,what true colours?
I am Ukrainian and to tell the truth it is really painfull what I am hearing from these African people. My country was welcome to give them an opportunity to study, but the hard time started for Ukrainians and a lot of Ukrainian have been killed I can hear these bad words about my country instead of a drop of empathy to Ukrainian people. I was evacuated together with African students and there was no difference between me and them. We tried to support each other. Ukrainians don't have any difference to the colour of person, but Ukrainians can directly correct you if you do something wrong. Fo example, in the line there should be elderly people and mothers with kids first, no matter what nationality you are, first to help are kids with mothers and elderly people, it's our Ukrainian mentality. No matter what colour of your skin if you are a man, you must let kids with mothers and elderly people be save first. It's Ukrainian mentality, it's not to be choosy towards different nationalities. On Ukrainian land all nationalities are equal of front of this rule. Ukrainian men or women without children even can't emagine to save themselves first, it's out of our mentality. The first on the list the weakest ages are like kids with mothers and elderly people.
Take no notice
it's typical of the BBC
to promote this kind of division
You are delusional and Ukranians are no better than any other European country.
why black people even go to eastern europe is beyond me, the racism there is world known
Ukrainians discriminated against Indians and Africans and you're making this about you. Of course as an individual you might not be racist and discriminatory but you can't invalidate these people's experiences and what they went through all because you you or the people you know don't think like that. Many non white people have been complaining about the racism they face in Ukraine for years it's not like this is the first time this issue is being brought up. I have so much empathy for people who are going through war and considering Ukraine's history with Russia this war is a terrible one but I cannot at the same time act like I'm not hurt by the racism Africans faced during the war in Ukraine. I'm so sorry but you need to realise that you can't treat people like sh*t and then expect them to you.
@@priscilla8068 How selfish and individualistic you Africans are can be seen in the fact that an entire continent is a dump.
If this African is pretending he never experienced racism before going to Ukraine then he's aloof or simply lying
Yes, but I think that it's a different type of racism in countries without a lot of minorities. If something happened in London, of course people might group together along different lines (Italians going to Italy might reach out to others) but you wouldn't have certain groups being blatantly prevented from leavingvin the same way.
@@lucyturnill450 These are illegal migrants that a few months ago at the Belarus border trying to get into western Europe illegal and in Africa Africans are racist towards each other and to ward's other races.
@@fionasmith6868 Yes, there is racism in every country in the world or intolerance of religious differences and many multi-ethnic countries are more tolerant despite their own problems. There is no pure perfect country. The iNone of the people in this video are illegal immigrants. Ukraine's detention centres haven't been ivacuated even though there are no bomb shelters in them. Under UN rules, anyone can flee a war zone, their status doesn't matter. The reason there is a discussion about this is that there are 80,000 international students in the Ukraine, mostly from Africa, India or the middle east who have phones so they can livestream or tiktok their experiences at the border. Some of them are Western citizens. A CNN reporter documented the escape of his sister who had been adopted from Sierra Leone. After a harrowing journey collapsed from cold and dehydration after being held back at the border in a 'black queue' and had to be taken to hospital, so the American Embassy got involved as she is a US citizen.
@@lucyturnill450 Months ago they were told to leave .
@@fionasmith6868 Really, read the comment from the guy who was told that he would have his residence permit revoked and fined if he didn't attend classes as Ukrainians didn't think the war would happen. The president didn't believe it until a few days beforehand. Why are you blaming people for ill treatment because they refused to leave? Why about Ukrainians who were slow to go? Are all the people in Mariupol to blame for their own deaths if they didn't get out before the bombing?
I can understand if you are just a student , and are there to get an education , but if you live there for a number of years ,worked and paid taxes , rented or owned and have citizenship . Then it is your home ,and then its your fight as well . If you do not feel this way ,then maybe you should of stayed in your own country , and helped make it better .
If you accept them as equal citizens and not discriminate against them at every chance you get, maybe your point might hold some merit.
I agreee.
Exactly!!! I dont want them in my country if they are not willing to defend it. They are cowards!
No one should be forced to fight a war. Not even ukrainian citizens
It's not a Chinese fight if he lives in Ghana for years
It's not a black mans fight
Even if a black man should fight it be at the side of Putin
Thx
There were so many warnings before this war started. I don't understand why they would wait so long before they tried to leave.
I dont understand AFRICANS! My husband is the same, it's TIME to leave America and he doesn't understand it isn't safe for BLACKS here either! Time to go home back home!
@@zebra3455 I'm black American and Africa is not my home anymore than Europe is the home of a white American that is born here. You can live there, but you will always be a foreigner. You don't get to choose what you're born as, but you can make the best of it.
Come on,not even Zelensky was expecting it
@@chrisf4268 you sound like a lost confused African American who doesn’t know where his home is. Your home is AFRICA. Even if you don’t speak the language, you are African. Not a foreigner by the people, but you are only a foreigner by your own choosing.
No one really knew this was coming at a specific time. No one knew, even You didn't know, so let's not act like you knew the day. Students came for education.
“Not our war” ? But it’s okay for you to expect Europe to save Africa? “If you are black you should walk” this shows the divide between our worlds, I hope the UK govt and sees the words spoken here and makes sure you never get in here
The shop has sadly sailed on that one. Your inundated with them!
Where are African embassies who should assist their citizens?
Too busy enjoying western colonialist aid bribe monies
I feel nothing for rich Afericans who left their home land because of conflict and refused to stay at home and fight for change.
Africa for Africans
I refuse to be sympathetic towards people who would treat me like a second class citizen when shit hits the fence
Agree from a sativa guy
How does your government in africa make you feel ? 🤔
Dont need your sympathy you Skinny! Glory to Ukraine 🇺🇦
@@EinsteinStory he is on a computer more likely lives in the uk off benefits.
Great comment spot on. They play the victim when it suits them
Not our war?
Not your fight?
But no problem living there and taking advantage of what it has to offer.
Typical of that culture.
Please don’t generalize. Obviously these men that choose to live there should have fought for them as well but what does that have to do with an entire continent of people? Tf
What do you mean by typical of that culture..?
We africans should upgraded ourselves by transforming Africa as a rich and developed continent. Let other races realise we too can do it. White peoples and others used to look at Chinese with a scorn but now they admire and envy them...
Now China is the most significant consequential nation on earth.
It comes with a balance tho. Would you prefer to move back to Africa and begin developing or are you more comfortable being a migrant in Europe? cus a lot of people prefer to be migrants in greener pastures rather than change their continent. So this is easier said than done
@@freechannel5639 then they should fight for the country they are doing well in . Not run and say not my war
Lol, everybody hates China, mate - I hope that's not your *rolemodel.* I'm not talking about the citizens here, but what they represent as a political entity & their fcking govt. 🤮 horrible
@@freechannel5639 there is surplus to requirement to develop Africa by locals and moreover diaporans are streaming billions of $ into the motherland as remittances, they sustain and create millions of jobs in the continent. Diasporeans are force for good, unlike the unscrupulous politicians who holds the continent to ransom....
Very sad, good to see that the people in the video managed to get safely out of the war zone
So yes to the money, yes to demand citizenship, yes to the good food, yes to government help... but not our war... ill consider that next time an african says he wants to be integrated into society... we should just stop paying taxes, look them in the streets homeless without food or clothes and say "not our problem"
@@thurguud it’s not their war. why? because while everyone else is being able to flee, they are forced to stay. why should they stay in an area that is being bombed? would you? it’s inhumane, why would they leave human beings there to suffer?
@@cleanuploser Do you know ukraine prohibited able men to leave the country right????? Unless you were born black it seems... Because if you use ukranian roads, recieve ukranian medical care, are integrated in ukranian society, love the land as yours and you are man you are supposed to fight off an invasion, not to run like a rat from a boat taking children and old people seats after telling everyone you were going to be the best crewmember. Crewmen who abandon ship before the rest are safe are disrecpected independently of the colour of the skin. Bad to leave black humans in ukraine but right to prohibit white human to flee right??? Are there seats for everyone or just for black people while white people who pay they bus cannot leave while been bombed???????????? Has he paid more of the bus than the ukranian dude payinng taxes 30 years who is forced to stay????? Can we expect africans to say "it is not our war" in all the countries that are giving ilegal economic migrants shelter, food and medical care because they are supposed to integrate into society and help like the rest?????? Should we continue giving shelter, food, medical care and resources to those people who will abandon us as soon as there is a problem????? If they do not care about our problems why should we care about their problems????? Next time an ilegal boat comming from africa asks for tons of resources to be saved in the middle of the ocean should we say "it is not our sinking boat" ???????? Should the country invest those resources on people who will help the country when there is a problem?????????
@@thurguud How is it possible for someone to be this racist.
@@thurguud You're mistaken. Many Black Ukranians are staying to fight. But like Ukranian law states, women and children are allowed to leave. SO WHY ARE BLACK-UKRANIAN women and children still left behind the border whilst other Ukrainians are allowed to leave? Some of them are also just INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS. Not permanent citizens. So those laws aren't even applicable to them
I agree with the Africans not there war,when war is in Africa the foriengers flee I have never seen them fight for any Africans, so this double standard nonsense I am not buying it.
@MelloWattz By "intervened" do you mean "started" lol, playing both sides and giving both weapons
Except the mercenaries though, any African war and Belgians, French, British and Dutch 'Dogs of War' come piling in...🤷🏿♂️
@MelloWattz that's different those are soliders not civilians,what civilians with no training can do?.
@@kalomboC Not true.
In any case African students, I suppose, were paying for their studies.
I'm South African but it disgusts me juss how they were so quick to say this is not their war when they had wanted to benefit from living in Ukraine before the war now comes the time to help Ukraine and this is how they thank them. We Africans especially North Western Africans need to learn to stick to fixing our own countries rather than playing victims in foreign countries...I'm now starting to wonder if SA were to go to war tomorrow would we have any of our Nigerian or Ghanaian brothers standing with us?
No dummy we are there for the benefits . Why would we fight your battles lol
"this is not our war" then you shouldn't be there in the first place. Want all the benfits of living in Europe but as soon as shit hits the fan they want to be the first to leave.
A lot of countries evacuated their citizens before the war started. Why did the African countries not do the same for their citizens?
I know that many African and other countries had help and busses waiting for their Nationals, but on the Other side of the Ukrainean border!!! Once the students crossed the border, they generally would be safer! The Poland border is a tough place to cross if you aren't White, compared to other countries, such as Hungary, Moldova, Romania, etc!
Also, the University instructors were actively discouraging their foreign students from leaving, threatening their grades, etc!
because they do not care for their own citizens.
I am African and I agree with you!
HAHA with the Indian students the AVOZ soldiers stop them at the border stopped from leaving. HELD them hostage so the India gov wouldnt abstain from the UN vote. Please.
@@projectyogisha4670 what are you smoking. do you realy think a political stand as important as that would be influence by some students. do you realy thing any government in the world care so mutch about a few people...
Words to take to heart: "Everybody's suffering counts."
@Will Long when has that sentiment ever meant anything?
Racism or discrimination is Putin's Russian propaganda for "under-belt" strike. Russians are not hunting and killing Africans and the Ukrainians know this, therefore the priority to help run and escape it would be normal to be given to those deceived against by Putin as being "Nazis". Why should priority to escape be given to Africans which are not the target ? but Ukrainians are !
@@MasterCommander. Nothing in my mild comment suggested that "...priority to escape be given to Africans..." and it is baffling to me how you infer such!
For the record, I am totally on the side of Ukraine in this conflict. I am also a conservative American grown nauseated by the tedious barrage of racist allegations thrown by the Left at anyone not enthusiastically swallowing their idiotic policies and propaganda. That said, I never have and never intend to ignore real evidence of racism from whatever source it originates or toward whom it is directed.
does not.
@@earlinebeaman684 Just to unambiguously clarify, are you saying that everybody's suffering does not count?
That is the problem with most imigrants when the things go bad they flee. If you love a country you need too fight for it when the things are bad. Not only enjoy the fruits of peace.
The vast majority of these people aren't even migrants. They're students. They were only there temporarily, to begin with. As a guest in your house, I'm not obligated to stay or defend it because I will leave later.
Why is this so hard for you to understand? Why do you want foreigners to fight for you? Grow a pair of balls and fight for your country. Isn't that what you white people always tell us Asians and Africans? Fight for our own countries and stop asking for help?
Why is it, that in this situation, does it not apply to you?
You guys don't want them now you are begging for them to fight? And besides they are students not even citizens and should i mention the Ukrainians fleeing their country to escape the war.
let's develop Africa, we have resources already.
Come and settle in INDIA, dear AFRICANS.
@@dineshbhat7978 gosh no, imagine leaving beautiful and Katie organised South Africa for the chaos of India…sorry we have Indians trying to migrate to SA in droves because it’s just better here so we can’t be going to you when we clearly have it better here
Not your war! You were,glad to be there in peacetime. Don’t try to go back.
Brothers and Sisters, let this be a lesson. Stop romanticizing people who could care less about your humanity and let’s build up our continent. And let’s stop being so helpless and weak. It’s time to regain our warrior spirit! Don’t be sitting ducks!
Come to INDIA, dear AFRICANS.
Exactly!!!
Wtf did say??
People who could care less about humanity....Wow! He is a doctor and has lived there for 40 years and yet, he doesn't participate in the Ukrainian fight for freedom against Russia. Is he a sometimes patriot? Only when he is safe? He could be helping the wounded from the war or even using a weapon to protect Ukraine as is every male required to do. But no, he wants out, not his war. He should leave quickly and never go back because he has not earned Ukrainian citizenship, and does not deserve it.
India is even worst! Plus more racist, stop the Cap
There's nowhere like home. As Africans, we need to sit up and take control of our land cause that's the only place we will be truly prioritised.
Many Africans were at home in Ukraine, and individuals do not define the whole situation
Typical they want to settle in another country but wont defend it
The word around town was a lot of the African embassie left their citizens to fend for themselves in Ukraine. And it was the Polish ppl, who came to the boarder of Poland and Ukraine, that paid for the Africans flight back home.
How horrid. African governments literally don’t care about their citizens
If you have stayed in Ukrainian for 10 years you don’t just run away when times are bad it doesn’t matter how you are
Correct. I'm actually disgusted by their cowardice.
I concur...
Africans run away from everyone that’s what no has respect for them only see Africans as a charity case.
Say this to nato aswell
We know that 90% of Europeans in Europe hate Black people, you can pretend all you want. You ain't seen nothing yet. We are just waiting for Russia and China to get started with you, then we Africans will give you the final blow, Economic strangulation will do you just fine. We are not cowards, we know our friends and foes. Do you know yours?
I'm so pleased to hear that almost every African managed to get out. And I'm praying for safety for any of those who were left behind. My biggest disappointment is in the African governments who left they people behind. May God have mercy on us all
This is exactly why I say, say want you want about Biden at the end of the day he got his people the fuck up out that place SWIFTLY
Oh komrad, I bet you are pleased . Question is ,,why go there in the first place ? Eastern Europe never took slaves ,so why leech off their society? England,Spain ,France and southern US would be the logical guilt trippin places .
Its a damn shame that they did. Unfortunately only white people have died in this war
Thank you for letting us know almost all of the Africans have managed to safely evacuate and have hopefully made it to their homes and families. It is incredible so many millions of people evacuated so quickly, and safely. I think the number of fatalities which resulted from the evacuation are low, and those are the result of the interruption of medical care for elderly and ill people during the evacuation. Even cancer patients were evacuated and quickly were able to resume medical treatment. During such a challenging event, it is easy for us to think we are the only one suffering, and to not realize how many people are living on the edge of death due to their pre-existing medical situation and their suffering greatly exceeds our own inconvenience.
@@VagoniusThicket well I agree to a certain extent. But these people if you looked didn't go there to leech off anything. They simply was going to school to further their
education and better their circumstances. But let me ask you this why are those other people running to America why come here to leech off us. Why not stay and fight for your home. That's cruel to say right. So what you just said is cruel to say leech. They simply went to better themselves
Definitely understand non native Ukrainians not wanting to fight for Ukraine (as a non native Ukrainian and non citizen I would try to leave too). But you can’t blame the Ukrainian government prioritizing and rewarding the ones who did fight over the ones who didn’t after the peace is won.
What are you even talking about? You expect African women and children to fight for a racist country? So many Ukrainian men have fled.
I absolutely agree with you, the Africans in this video shouldn’t have to fight for Ukraine. But once the peace is won and the west helps Ukraine rebuild, the best opportunities will in part go to those who did fight. At that point, if those Africans choose to come back. They shouldn’t be complaining (along with the other Ukrainians who fled) about being second choice.
And no women (without choice) and children should ever have to fight
@@GH-xy4zz That's a ludicrous notion you gave about the 'best opportunities to those that stayed to fight' in Ukraine after the War! Ukraine will likely be happy to get any help, any specialists, any manual labourers from any country! No one will look down on the Foreign Students that left during the invasion! And, when Ukraine starts inviting the Foreign Students again, this will bite the Ukrainean Universities, because they will likely face resistance! The potential students will remember how their predesessors were treated when a crisis occurred! That even their women and children were refused passage based on their skin color! It's a shame that Ukraine will have to acknowledge and apologize for, and promise to implement better policies for in the future!
@@lenitaa7938 what makes you think you cant bring your women and children as an exchange student?
if your illegally there and have no papers youll get in trouble anytime your passport is controlled. thats just a danger you expose yourself to when you decide to immigrate illegally.
the african governments should have done more, exchange students and recent immigrants should be known to consular services. they should have organized an evacuation of all their people known to them. (and im sure most did)
the problem is as an illegal immigrant you arent known to the government, both your own and the host countries.
just one of the many dangers of being an illegal immigrant.
you are right when it comes to legal immigrants/ citizens being discriminated against, based on their skin tone, thats disgusting and i hope those responsible will be prosecuted once ukraine and the rest of the world has time to reflect on all that happened during the war.
i dont think its "a ukrainian crime", more so racist individuals abusing the chaos to live out their power fantasy. i dont think this was a ukranian policy in any way, ukrainans shouldnt feel ashamed because of this, i hope they are more so angry at the people that brought them disrepute and the ukranian government isnt responsible, beyond bringing the perpetrators to justice, for this.
"Prioritizing and rewarding the ones who did fight"? I'm sorry is the war past tense now? You can't be prioritizing rewarded if you're dead.
Africans treat whites so well when they visit African countries, so seeing this is sooo deep
A doctor talks about his love of Ukraine and then describes fleeing Kiev when the shelling gets a bit hot. Should he not have stayed and helped the wounded in the country he loves? No, he just runs away and then feels hard down by that Ukrainian women and children were allowed run away faster than him.
lol🤣
he is a disgrace.
Maybe he wants to save his self.
i mean.. this kinda sums it up. It does literally seem to be this simple.
The real question is why these African governments were not doing more to get their citizens out of harm
I was wondering the same thing. The Indian and Taiwan government got their citizens out. Not one African country even tried to help evacuate their citizens?
Peace time,africans: give us citizenship
war starts, africans: actually we are not european ,never was, never will be
That's just how they roll. Pure opportunism. And now many Africans try to exchange Ukraine for Germany and upgrade their financial status.
@@michaelschmidt9708 Because they all live in Germany for free right? working in Germany do not mean helping the community and paying for the elderly? And the time when Germany cut Africa with other Europeans nations to divide and gain natural ressources for free with the help of gun powder was that not opportunism? Oh wait the classic answer is: at that time everybody else tried to conquer some piece of Africa, so why wouldn't we.
I agree that everyone with a citizenship should fight for his country. But even there, if you think there is a better way to end the war without fighting you can resign, you can refuse to participate. You must not patriciate in something you do not believe in. There are possibilities to negotiate the end of this war without any fight at all.
I am not even speaking about the countless people who gain the citizenship to be able to work and help their families while getting insulted and segregated everyday, they endure this keeping their reward in mind and now you want them to go and died? why dont you first change body with them and live in their flesh before trying to understand? Or do you think there are no Ukrainians making profits in Africa?
They would’ve fought if they were treated same as white Ukrainian
You're full of crap. These people were students, and who would want to be citizens of poverty stricken Ukraine to begin with?
And aren't you Armenian? You people flock to Europe to escape poverty.
I feel really bad for these people but, I dunno .... if you’ve lived there for 15 years & you speak Ukraine & Russian, your kids were born there & they speak both languages as well ... I think it’s your war.
He lived there 14 years and when war broke out he ran like a coward as a doctor don't you think you should of helped the injured Ukraine fighters ?
It is not his war don't you get it?
@@masilela_sa9621 what? He has a ukrainian citizenship, he is ukrainian....
Black people are the bravest, the strongest fighters in the world like real lions.
They always fight for what they love They always say that they love Ukraine, especially the girls. internet is full of videos like that.
I have lived in Ukraine and have heard that numerous times with my own ears.
How come now they do not want to fight for what they love? Or perhaps words and actions are really different things. Perhaps now all the talking turned out to be so empty.
On the other hand Ukrainian people so humble by nature fight like real lions.
The real fighters are the Ukrainians not these ppl.. They can go back to their Country and all it’s corruption.
As a German I couldn‘t agree more: NOT OUR WAR! NOT OUR LAND!
But you are not living there and making 💶. Some immigrants are just treating host countries like a whore and they are the pimps ! Das kannst du verstehen ,,nicht ?
@Maschera di Venezia got um 🤣
@Maschera di Venezia nope...two separate countries...like don't compare the US and Canada eventough we're on the same continent
@@76turner1 no he didn't...he must didn't pass history class
Then why the fuck are they living there?
Just wondering if they were able to heed the warnings from various governments to leave way before the war began
This is why i feel emotionally detached from this war. The reports of the unjust treatment of young students, women and children simply because they are black is annoying! Their economy is better for the number of Africans who go to school there as well as the African professionals who ply their trade there! Meanwhile, The Ukrainian ambassador to South Africa was so ready to shoot down people's experiences as "absolute nonsense"! A classic case of gaslighting. Africans have always had the "short end of the stick" in world history and our misfortune of having bad leadership hasn't helped.
One day, we will get it right! Thank God for reports like this one! Thank you P.Okwoche.
Medical students, fleeing for their lives and not staying to help out ?
@@jcoker423 Why? Those students do not owe Ukraine, nothing. They paid to get to study in Ukraine! They weren't given free education. As per the professionals, it should be a matter of choice for anyone of them; certainly, not mandatory!
If Ukraine needed or still needs their expertise, then they should be asked nicely and treated with respect! I can tell you for free that if the shoe had been on the other foot, no Ukrainian would feel obliged to stay back and help. Infact they'd most likely be evacuated faster than we could say, "Jack Sparrow" and what's more........the war would never get the kind of coverage it is getting now! You can take this to the bank!
Yes, foreign students injected $500million into the Ukranian each year before the war.
@@jacquelineadebija OK, so as soon as they get to Poland, it's a flight back to their homelands. Why do they seem to feel entitled to stay in Europe.
Contract with Ukr's. Contract ended. Back hom
@@jcoker423 Except the contract wasn't formally terminated! Have you thought about how those students are going to go about resuming studies? They do not even have the benefit of transcripts so they can transfer credits.......after all the money expended on getting an education. Besides, the european curriculum will most likely not be the same with other parts of world where they could complete their studies in peace. The obvious & next best thing to do would be to complete their studies somewhere closeby. Somewhere where the curriculum wouldn't be so different.
If after studies, that country doesn't think they need them as the professionals they've become......🤷♀️ ....then, by all means, ask them to leave; respectfully and with human dignity accorded them.
They'll take their skills where its needed. Trust me, there'll always be somewhere else where their expertise will be needed. That's how it's been from the beginning of time.......and that's how it will always be. Man was made to migrate. This is why, those who haven't had the benefit of travelling and mixing with other cultures end up being narrow minded and uneducated; in so many ways.
P.S
There's no argument, bad leadership in Africa has maimed and or crippled many aspects of our lives (education being one of them) but Africa does not have the monopoly of this type of leadership, either. Many so called "developed" nations would be described otherwise where it not for African students and professionals who have made those places, "home".
It’s not our problem when your country starving and needs money
It is amazing to see how the great African leaders care for their citizens. Great job!
Don’t blame the African leaders, it was Ukraine that didn’t let them leave…..
What were they still doing in Europe? Smh
@@lixxyyu6239 people are free to travel to whatever country they are allowed to travel to. And work or whatever. But to not let Africans leave Ukraine because of war , but let every other nationality leave asap , is extremely racist. Ukraine showing their true NAZI colors. So one hand Ukraine are begging the world to have world war 3 just to save Ukraine……at the same time showing how racist they are via their nazi traits. Go putin.he knows exactly what Ukraine are about and the west just out a blind eye to it because they just wanted to use Ukraine to put missiles on the boarder to attack Russia. Putin saw through it and acted first.
Yeah, they prob should've tried to do more..
@@leonleon2276 African leaders should Take care of Their People in the presence of unprecedented events in foreign lands .
If I live for 17 years in a country and built my life there I will fight to protect that life regardless of the color of my skin and I will expect to be treated as a brother in arms.
That’s your decision..You can’t make that decision for others
@@proudlyafrican6240 Here is some disgusting behavior. He is a doctor and has lived there for 40 years and yet, he doesn't participate in the Ukrainian fight for freedom against Russia. Is he a sometimes patriot? Only when he is safe? He could be helping the wounded from the war or even using a weapon to protect Ukraine as is every male required to do. But no, he wants out, not his war. He should leave quickly and never go back because he has not earned Ukrainian citizenship, and does not deserve it. The Ukrainian men will remember this and why would they allow immigrants citizenship if they are going to behave like this? Bad example he is.
I don't get it...
Relatively young African men in Ukraine living a decent life for 1 or 2 decades.
But when the war started they are all like "good luck, suckers! I'm out"
Why not supporting Ukraine? Why not stay, why not fight?
I'm pretty sure they are in urgent need of talented surgeons...
But not a single word of consideration about joining the fight and defending their "home"...
That is their mentality. Don’t you know that by now?🤷🏻♀️
These people are all about them self's, nothing goes there way we are all racists, they are the most racist people in the world
Hey come on!!! Every country, every continent evacuated their citizens. That's how it is. If you as a foreigner where trapped in a dangerous war inflicted region, your country will do everything to evaluate you.
True, neither your war, or Country. Ukraine for Ukrainians.
Im from buffalo NY and I've heard how the my ppl are being treated in Ukraine and I say to myself why would I fight for a country that is racist to my black ppl,.!!??
Exactly
Racists hahaha dude they are Nazis !
Did you see tattoos of Azov batalion soldiers who surender to Russia ?
When I see Black person support Ukraine I just LOL
The Ambassadors response was really surprising. Total disregard, not even a "we'll investigate". Sad
because the reminding STUDENTS where going to stay in EUROPE or go to AMERICA/CANADA with their newly earn medical degrees.
👆 they are in Ukraine for 1 simple reason: that medical license is recognized by the West.
African countries are spending $$$$$ millions renting Cuban doctors due to shortage and these people had migration on their minds.
why spend money to rescue people who were not going to rescue their country?
when they say "its not their war" they meant it for African countries shortage battles, Ukraine battles
they only serve themselves.
✈ they had money, the ATMs were not frozen = why didnt they fly out before Russia invaded?
@@cinnamonstar808,You save every people that why you help them. This is why a lot of Blacks are upset with the treatment and not giving any help to the Ukrainian donations! Not my feelings! But I understand it!
@@cinnamonstar808 Very true. Many did not want flights home, but they cannot just fly wherever they want or go to any EU country.
I was lucky. I left Kyiv with my family on February 24, got to the border on the morning of February 25, and crossed the border to Poland on the evening of February 26. I was lucky because I crossed the border in my own car. But I did witness this horror at the border and even had an interview with a South African station TV about it. I almost cried every time a black person asked if I could help them cross the border and I had to tell them I didn't have any more space in my car. I did manage to squeeze a skinny Pakistani student in between my kids' car seats, helping him all the way to Warsaw as he made his way to the Pakistani embassy.
Bless you🙏🏾Stay safe #insidelife
God bless u for helping that student
Seun Tegbe, you weren't lucky, you were smart to get out. Fortunately you had a car, so your journey was more comfortable than most everyone else's journey. It was kind of you to help the Pakistani student, and he was smart to go to the Pakastani embassy. You understand why you couldn't help more people, you would never leave your own child behind while you took a stranger into your car. It is a heartbreaking choice, but a clear choice. You were lucky because you didn't encounter violent people who pushed you and your children out of your car so they could get in. There were adult men who were doing that very thing to Ukrainian women with small children at the train stations. Perhaps they didn't understand when the Ukrainian train conductors explained in Ukrainian, these trains were devoted to evacuate Ukrainian women and children, particularly the families of Ukrainian soldiers. There was a concern Russian-paid operatives were already in Ukraine who would attack the families of Ukrainian soldiers. This is also one of the reasons for extra-tight border controls during this war. I don't know if you are a citizen of Ukraine or another country, but wherever you are, I'm glad you were able to escape and take your family to safety. So many Ukrainian women are trying to support their children in a foreign land, while their husbands and fathers are fighting and dying, and their country is being destroyed. Their pain is incredible, and yet I seldom see them complaining or whining. This is how they have won the hearts of the Polish people.
@@cherylk.2474 I stayed in Poland for 10 days with my family. I am a permanent resident, wife and kids are Ukrianian citizens. I wouldn't have gotten out as a man in his thirties if I was a citizen. Weirdly enough, I only submitted my application for citizenship months earlier and was supposed to pick up a supporting police report for that application on the morning of February 24. Needless to say, that plan didn't work out. While in Poland, we were hosted by the kindest family in a village called Kack near Warsaw. In Poland, then Germany, and now in Canada, I did meet (and continue to meet) a lot of women with children trying to navigate this new life, some without knowing any English or even having recent job experiences. It is not uncommon for women to be homemakers in Ukraine (my wife is), which in itself is more than a full-time job only it is unpaid. All of a sudden, these women have to navigate the labor market in a new country using a new language. I can't imagine the level of strength that requires.
@@SeunLight517 Seun, thank you for being so kind to understand and appreciate the terrible stress these Ukrainian women are experiencing. You and your family are also under a horrid amount of stress and I'm glad you made your way to Canada. Life as a homemaker is unfortunately greatly disparaged in the west, but having grown up in a home with a mother who was a full-time homemaker and a Polish father who was a professional, self-employed man, I know I was among the fortunate children in the world. We didn't buy all the new clothes, or toys, or stuff, but we laughed a lot in our happy home, and I have wonderful memories and loving sisters. Today, families seem to be under so much pressure. I have a niece who is able to work from home, and this reduces so much stress for their family. You sound like an intelligent, responsible and loving man, and you will be an asset to whichever country in which you choose to build your life, as well as a good father and husband. I wish you good fortune and a very happy future.
They want to take advantage of Europe, but they don't want to sacrifice for Europe. That's why they fled Africa.
those bus drivers are so brave, everybody just mentions it like it's nothing but they are heros
They enjoyed the good in Ukraine, but when war started, "it's not their war". They want to run home. If the war was in their home, where would they run?.. Well, this is not racism, it's just resource management, the Ukrainian govt simply did not have enough to cover everyone. What's the govt of those Africans doing to support those trapped? Their irresponsibility has been brought to the open
Western European leaders are the reason why Africa is not working because whenever any good leader wants to change their country they assassinate him so before you say anything look at your own history between Africa and Europe then you will understand what I mean. Thanks
@@brighthosea6668 what are you trying to say?
Shame not your war, but you were eating there food and enjoying their facility.
Shameless people when they left Africa, the say was Africa is bad thing are never right in Africa, Africa is God forsaken. The urkrian that was one that far better than the Africa base on their goliable desire they could not even stay and throw a stone for it. Disappointed set of people. The Africa that nothing ever go that they ran from is where they ran to again you home is home. We that stay is our God blessed Africa we will always stand and fight for it like urkrians. As for you, on worthy citizens of nowhere, if trouble also start here you will also run. Then who will safe guard for? God will help urkrians to your shame.
so you live their for many years and call it home but Ukraine's invasion and destruction is not your concern ?
Exactly, so when things get bad they want to claim that's not their home seems like that's how it was working when they were in Africa
And at the end they all lived happily ever after ( the black people ) meanwhile thousands and thousands of non blacks were killed, tell me WHY you think blacks should get special treatment.
Ain't their war!!
Doesn't the Ukrainian government have an obligation to help its own national born citizens before helping non-citizen immigrants?
And many people call it racism ?? Like whatt
@@hello4283 I can understand why some might call it racism and it's important to remember that EVERYONE'S suffering is unjust and uncalled for, however, one must also remember that the Ukrainian government has an obligation to it's constituents and tax payers before it's tourists and immigrants regardless of anyone's race or social status.
@@richardharden well true but sadly this is an warlike situation and government's first priority will be the people of his own race , cant blame him
Thank you!! I hope all countries prioritize their own citizens
@@hello4283 race should have little to do with it. It is about having citizenry. There are black Ukrainian citizens who deserve to be evacuated with priority as well, but immigrants should not be evacuated with priority.
But yet still Africa is rolling out the red carpet for Europeans
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Indian and Afrikan students got kick out of the train in beginning of the war. Ukraine soldiers really kick them !
If you made Ukraine your home - the war is yours; if not - any government prioritizes its onw citizens. Needless to say, Poland doesn't want "diversity and cultural enrichment" but preserves its own culture. They take Ukrainians because they are similar to them. I pray all Africans return safely to Africa to enrich their own countries and give up on "diversity and cultural enrichment" in foreign countries.
True. This war is not everyone war. Its European war. So African Middle East Latin Countries should not care about this War. Why should people care about racist scum or filthy animals?
@@shaeshae3684 If these "people" stayed in "African Middle East Latin Countries", they would be carefree now about this "European war or racist scum or filthy animals." Hopefully, "people" learned this lesson and stay in their countries.
Stay in africa......fix your nations. be brave...europe we did the same
On the blood and natural resources of Africa and by the way all the undesirables who were shipped from Europe by your ancestor’s, their decedents are still here with their inherited properties that were stolen from our people. So stop tooting your horn about Europe as if the development was from fairy dust.
Ukrainian nationals were granted special access to the European Union, due to the war in their country. Residents of Ukraine,who are nationals of Ghana eg, are expected to be helped by the Ghanian counsel.
Exactly, don’t mind them. They want to go to another European country. If you tell them you’ll take them to their African country, they’ll run away,
Who would want to go back to a dump 😂.. They are looking for a Zaddy not Shaka 😂
@@flavho And why are Ukrainians living in Germany, you thing it is impossible to relocate people in west Ukraine for exemple? When there is a heavy storm destroying houses in the USA, do they relocate people to canada? why dont you want people like those Aricans who was send away with the little money their families had, sometime by asking for money, to send them try to study abroad, to also go to Germany and wait there? did they asked for war no, are they expected to succeed by any means? yes.
Also the distance from Africa to Ukraine is greater than from Germany to Ukraine, it is a whole lot of effort to ga back before coming again when you have no money to do so, some of them do not have scholarship.
These people are already citizens of African countries, so there is no need to give them refugee status the EU. They already have a country where they can live in peace.
Same story from native Ukrainan mothers with small children in the first days of the invasion. Desperate people walking, standing for 10 hours in the snow to cross the border. The first week was total panic when hundred thousands was escaping bombs. Ukraina was invaded in 2014. It was never safe in the first place. Hope all Africans got safe home. 5 million Ukrainans are homeless in Europe now. Hope they find a home also.
It's their own fucking fault, they shouldn't support Nazis. Why should the rest of the world suffer because of the ukrainens
Did you miss the part where the black woman was told “only Ukrainians, if you are black you walk”?
I guess even during war, there’s always time for a little racism.
@John Ashley by this reasoning, “WHITES FIRST” on the bus first and”BLACKS LAST” are last priority, which is fair since it’s your country.
I prefer you just state it here like you did, so that everyone knows, unlike your ambassador to South Africa.
What I can’t stand is lying/pretending as if there’s no discrimination. Thanks for being honest.
@@kush4286 I can’t understand you people. I also am a foreigner in another European country, but now after living there for years, I consider this country my home, so if anyone would invade this country I would not be screaming “this is not my war” because I don’t look like the locals and because my passport says so. I would feel like I am also being invaded.
@@crochetomania you're going to fight in the country you went to study university in?
This is the time for hopeless African leaders to focus on technology and quality university for all their citizens. Yes we can do it
unfortunately, they can't/don't want to. the politicians here just want to eat all the taxpayers' money. Their children go to school abroad, they also rarely seek healthcare locally
You have no technology you depend on us in the West! But Africans did discover gravity. The village chief threw a spear in the air and watched it come down 😂
He said afterwards GRAVITY!!
Technology or no technology,Africans were living free before the hopeless Arabs and the hopeless europeans
Africans in Africa haven't done sh*t in the past oohhh let me see 20,000 years
@@flavho that's not true. Nobody depends on the west
I don't know why people on this comments sections keep blaming these people,they are only there for jobs, opportunities, education, better life what is wrong with that,there are tons of Arabs, europeans,asians, americans across countries in africa here for centuries they are always treated well and respected like human beings why can't that be reciprocated.
So in joburg, people are welcomed by locals? What about Lagos. Or Cote d'Ivoire? Somalia? Rwanda, where to this day, hacking up a neighbor or two is ok.
@@JohnGalt-vr3lx This message clearly shows that you people know nothing about africa and you are just ignorant but I don't blame you I blame the western media biased reporting of the continent,there are lot of europeans, Arabs,asians living there lives no one treats the like animals even when the are problems are clearly their fault like how a Swiss company disposed toxic nuclear waste in a village in cote d'ivoire poisoning the locals and killing hundreds of children,women and men or how the oil company royal Shell spills barrels of crude oil in the rivers and coasts of the oil rich niger Delta region in Nigeria destroying wildlife,arable lands and deriving the locals of a means of livelihood, poisoning the environment and making the region an unbearable place to live but no one is attacking europeans on the continent or even telling them to clean up the mess they caused and on and on and all these causing disease and virus I can keep mentioning but this message will be too lengthy and in all those cities you mentioned there are thousands of europeans living there peacefully unthreatened and I live in Lagos ,been to cote d'ivoire, Rwanda, johannesburg. For your information the civil war in cote d'ivoire, Somalia, ended a long time ago and are now living peacefully, as for Rwanda the genocide occurred in 1992 the country is now one of the safest place on the globe to live and visit,it is also the fastest developing country in the world,the economy is growing very fast you mentioning this past events is just like me saying germany is unsafe because of the genocide of the jews during the WWII or eastern europe is unsafe because of the bosnia civil war both which millions were killed in concertration camps or how thousands of african americans were mercilessly lynched on the streets of america in the past but ok. Just next time try to be current on situation in places as not to make biased assumptions and don't be blinded by racism, stereotypes,biased western media reports.
Ahahaha caucasians welcome in Africa? Ahahaha
@@AbruzzoPride this quote is from Wikipedia. I have not contributed to it in whole or part and am posting purely for educational reasons "These markets prospered while the states were nominally under Ottoman suzerainty, though, in reality, they were mostly autonomous. The North African slave markets traded in European slaves which were acquired by Barbary pirates in slave raids on ships and by raids on coastal towns from Italy to Spain, Portugal, France, England, the Netherlands, and as far afield as the Turkish Abductions in Iceland. Men, women, and children were captured to such a devastating extent that vast numbers of sea coast towns were abandoned.These markets prospered while the states were nominally under Ottoman suzerainty, though, in reality, they were mostly autonomous. The North African slave markets traded in European slaves which were acquired by Barbary pirates in slave raids on ships and by raids on coastal towns from Italy to Spain, Portugal, France, England, the Netherlands, and as far afield as the Turkish Abductions in Iceland. Men, women, and children were captured to such a devastating extent that vast numbers of sea coast towns were abandoned." See. They loved whites so much that they went and picked them up and brought them to see Africa.
@@JohnGalt-vr3lx from wikipedia?,no wonder all your assumptions are outdated,you better pick up some books and stop reading those wikipedia bullshit.
😓😥😢😭 I hate war. Everybody is suffering.
Yeah. Why did Putin do this you know? He's being a bully and a a**hole. I don't understand why he's being such a d*ck! Like the dude needs to listen to the world and know what he's doing is so wrong. Wtf. It's sad. Needs to be over. Ukraine needs there country back.
And black people suffer more in anything
The African have no friends, absolutely none at all.
@@mutawadada6311 The African has many friends. America itself is helping to get rid of hostile terrorism gang groups as we speak in Africa to help countries who need it most. Let us not forget. We can discuss our personal opinions due to freedoms we have. Let us not take for granted the freedoms we have and our pursuit to turn every country into a democracy and spread the word of God in every corner of earth. There are still a few places left of earth in need of learning about the ultimate love and salvation that gave us enteral life. Once that's done. We shall see the end of times.
Even lions and zebras 🦓 dont want to be your friend 😂