VTuber Tropes: The Mommy

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  • The Mommy is a staple trope that a lot of VTubers identify with and play as their characters. Utilizing motherly feel, calming aura, and even sexy, domineering techniques, the mommy is an effective trope that's very much still in demand these days.
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  • @DepressedNousagi
    @DepressedNousagi  ปีที่แล้ว +646

    ok so i know fauna wasn't serious with her cowkini thing. I just wanted to use it as an example to explain her sexual appeal uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu 😭😭

    • @fallingcrane1986
      @fallingcrane1986 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      uuuuuuuuuuuuu

    • @4thDT
      @4thDT ปีที่แล้ว +5

      uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

    • @TheRandomxperson
      @TheRandomxperson ปีที่แล้ว +2

      uuuu

    • @diegoizaguirre3452
      @diegoizaguirre3452 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Loved the video, not sure if this is allowed but can you do a video about both tsunderes and the top bottom switch spectrum, I have a bone (not in that sense, god no in that sense) to pick with akuma nimune ( personally I think she is a bit problematic considering that the tropes she tries to do make her a bit toxic) would recommend Elly and juniper actias as contrasts, an analysis on what makes a community punching bag (good case Ashley Nicole’s, bad case onesion ), a possible collab with VIL (vtuber I love, which is the name of the youtubers channel) and how honesty makes all the difference from a good ol nagatorro and a toxic dress up darling. TLDR (though probably should) tsunderes and the top bottom switch spectrum is very interesting topic and I dislike numi abit. Hopefully this isn’t asking much of you and some of my suggestions might be that out there but I just want some insight on some things I’ve noticed on how the tsundere trope is getting exausted and it correlations to the top bottom switch spectrum.

    • @IIB14NKII
      @IIB14NKII ปีที่แล้ว

      uuuuuuu

  • @jasoncarto
    @jasoncarto ปีที่แล้ว +729

    Fauna is the Oneesan who raised you when your parents died. Still young but very mature. The ultimate example of the genre.

    • @LibJumper
      @LibJumper ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Like Nani in Lilo & Stitch, I can see that.

    • @whysmile9412
      @whysmile9412 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      wow you described it really well. i like that sentiment

    • @MenrvaS
      @MenrvaS ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yor Briar?

    • @constantine166
      @constantine166 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly this👍

    • @NightmareZV
      @NightmareZV ปีที่แล้ว

      That's an interesting way to see it

  • @omganotherun
    @omganotherun ปีที่แล้ว +625

    Fauna calling her fans "Saplings" also helps put her viewers into the Mommy mindset. She is also very wholesome about her speech, like how she refuses to curse for any reason. Remember her telling a childhood story of how she got that way.

    • @SunnyBlam
      @SunnyBlam ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Is there a clip of that?

    • @sakiamira
      @sakiamira ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Why doesn’t she wanna curse?

    • @KanjengPempek
      @KanjengPempek ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SunnyBlam maybe this?
      th-cam.com/video/UFNKvNKRnI0/w-d-xo.html

    • @Rageouz
      @Rageouz ปีที่แล้ว +85

      For the story of Fauna and cursing, it's just she never picked up the habit of swearing and when she did swear one time in middle school she was so ashamed of herself she swore herself to never swear again

    • @Kalingrato
      @Kalingrato ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SunnyBlam There sure is. It is very wholesome. th-cam.com/video/UFNKvNKRnI0/w-d-xo.html

  • @earthboundgod95
    @earthboundgod95 ปีที่แล้ว +874

    Broke: GF experience
    Woke: Mommy experience
    Ascended: Menhera stalking parasocial experience

    • @victoriazero8869
      @victoriazero8869 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      > Check Nazuna
      more like damnation

    • @CyAA-ri2us
      @CyAA-ri2us ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Inb4 "VTuber violently stalks male fan after he gives her a super chat that, according to her, made her fall in love."

    • @walearr
      @walearr ปีที่แล้ว +25

      So...phase connect is agency that specializes in ascended?

    • @ENKTDeeColon_and_randomnumbers
      @ENKTDeeColon_and_randomnumbers ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@CyAA-ri2us let's add that to my list of shit that never will happen

    • @krayne-ddg-pmc
      @krayne-ddg-pmc ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​@@walearr ascended, based all the same i guess lol

  • @KeebeThePlush
    @KeebeThePlush ปีที่แล้ว +301

    Fauna is the literal embodiment of Mother Nature, her character is top tier unironically

  • @inanimatesum4945
    @inanimatesum4945 ปีที่แล้ว +418

    Fauna really set out to be Onee-san but Hololive knew she was a mommy.
    A series on these tropes would definitely be good and interesting to talk about the loose connections solidifying people into them.

    • @ODDnanref
      @ODDnanref ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think she falls in that range of being your older sister but the older sister that has taken care of you for years. The "it's my sister, but acts like your mom" trope.

  • @pannacotta9493
    @pannacotta9493 ปีที่แล้ว +171

    Fauna : become sexy by not doing sexy things
    Suichan : become sexy by not doing sexy things

    • @Aran1298
      @Aran1298 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Its all about supply and demand

    • @chitandaeru7239
      @chitandaeru7239 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Ngl Suisei lewds tend to be hotter due to the contrast of how she actually carry herself.

  • @garchompelago
    @garchompelago ปีที่แล้ว +650

    The dad: Calli
    The mommy: Fauna
    The auntie: Baelz
    That weirdass uncle: Ame
    The grandma: Marine
    Its basically a family now.

    • @ImperialEmbers
      @ImperialEmbers ปีที่แล้ว +44

      I'd say Marine is an older sister rather than a grandma.

    • @ResidentChef
      @ResidentChef ปีที่แล้ว +111

      ​@@ImperialEmbers huffing the copium I see

    • @nutshot_brawler8466
      @nutshot_brawler8466 ปีที่แล้ว +114

      No way, Bae is that younger cousin that makes you feel like the oldest person in the world even though you're only in your 20s

    • @ImperialEmbers
      @ImperialEmbers ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ResidentChef What does this mean?

    • @ImperialEmbers
      @ImperialEmbers ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@nutshot_brawler8466 I agree.

  • @imahoare4742
    @imahoare4742 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    Fauna appeals to my deep seeded mommy issues.

    • @NicoDoesLP
      @NicoDoesLP ปีที่แล้ว +32

      It's deep-seated. However, in the case of Fauna, I'll accept seeded here lol

    • @Ucj334esd
      @Ucj334esd ปีที่แล้ว +38

      No matter what we breath we stilll are made of seed, this is my kingdom come.

    • @Circ00mspice
      @Circ00mspice ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Like a certain cosplayer

    • @HS-mn6jc
      @HS-mn6jc ปีที่แล้ว

      I had separation issues with my mom as a toddler and ngl I think I would have been completely over my mommy issues had Fauna not come along LMAOOO
      she pulled me RIGHT back in

    • @StarboyXL9
      @StarboyXL9 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HS-mn6jc But its so comfy in here

  • @ultrarizor
    @ultrarizor ปีที่แล้ว +134

    Nousagi somehow went from biology to an oedipus complex and yet still made me follow along without confusion

  • @difficulthail516
    @difficulthail516 ปีที่แล้ว +428

    Our favorite nousagi has returned

    • @roku-casualenjoyer555
      @roku-casualenjoyer555 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Always have been

    • @imam5623
      @imam5623 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nope

    • @Ucj334esd
      @Ucj334esd ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Speak 4 urself

    • @lyravain6304
      @lyravain6304 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Ucj334esd He is. Also; numbers aren't words. And you need to learn better spelling.

    • @johnapple6646
      @johnapple6646 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lyravain6304 n0 h3 d0esn7

  • @remforrest
    @remforrest ปีที่แล้ว +215

    As a Sapling and hearing you mention Oedipus complex made me laugh. I see her more as a sister type.

    • @RawBlue
      @RawBlue ปีที่แล้ว +26

      As a fellow Sapling I totally agree, although there are some mommy vibes at times

    • @WhosManIsThis
      @WhosManIsThis ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Same with scarle.
      The scarling all thought she a mommy
      NAH she the goofiest big sister u can get.

    • @space_bread
      @space_bread ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I assure you this person cries when they don't see her.
      Smh

    • @SelecaoOfMidas
      @SelecaoOfMidas ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RawBlue Yep. If we're going by the example given, it makes sense. No straight-up outward appearance at being assertively sexy all the time, but... there are situations, and very controlled when it happens.

    • @SelecaoOfMidas
      @SelecaoOfMidas ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@WhosManIsThis We all thought that, but things changed after debut really quickly, and I love it.
      I mean... You let Scarle cook, but sometimes you second guess that decision. 😅

  • @amalanparty
    @amalanparty ปีที่แล้ว +57

    As a sapling, it was mainly the green hair that attracted me to her. Green = best. After seeing her debut tho...From the motherly vibe, to the slight hint of yandere, and just the comfy voice and personality she gives, I'm happy to have given my support for her, from then to now and as long as she's around.
    I'll also have you know that I've only cried 3 times today in wanting more Fauna. UUU.

    • @SomeBuddy555
      @SomeBuddy555 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      normal for a sapling

    • @Fanimati0n
      @Fanimati0n ปีที่แล้ว

      Fauna's strongest sapling

    • @StarboyXL9
      @StarboyXL9 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Fanimati0n Fauna gives her longest wait times to her strongest saplings

  • @MioshaEnjoyer
    @MioshaEnjoyer ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Man, got high hopes that he’s gonna describe Mio-mama specifically, knowing that she do have motherly laugh, all streams are comfy, and not to mention always pamper both fans and holomems, and rarely shows sexual appeal (except the suspect dance, caught me off guard), should needed more attention 😔

  • @loopholemusic8368
    @loopholemusic8368 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    You forgot a really important part of why people see Fauna as a mommy. She doesn't swear, even a little bit.

    • @holobeans
      @holobeans ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not true, real saps know she swears in karaoke 😤😂 (on accident)

    • @husariuspl117
      @husariuspl117 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I remember Mumei being suprised when Fauna actually said "shut up" when talking about some video game character that annoyed her, saying she never heard her telling anyone to shut up
      And considering that one Ender Dragon stream where she was basically the only organized one while everyone else was being chaoting (some by accident like Sana) the furthest she went was "No! Don't do it or I will be mad!"

  • @secretasianman108
    @secretasianman108 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I never could quite succinctly pin down Fauna's appeal, so I just sorta categorized her into the in-between space bridging the "mommy" and "mom-friend" archetypes.

  • @forgame
    @forgame ปีที่แล้ว +24

    For motherly, I still give it to Mio to be the best of all

  • @unsuspectingman
    @unsuspectingman ปีที่แล้ว +107

    I’m glad Fauna is the thumbnail. In my opinion, she set a precedent for the archetype that basically everyone follows nowadays.
    (I’m not saying that she made it, just that everyone follows what she does)

    • @unsuspectingman
      @unsuspectingman ปีที่แล้ว +17

      “Her thighs and her feet are a bit yabai”, what a line

    • @DreamyAileen
      @DreamyAileen ปีที่แล้ว

      I wouldn't say that, if anything she's an outlier in the "mommy VTuber" scene

  • @Fairyhell
    @Fairyhell ปีที่แล้ว +97

    A wise man once said, "if sexuality is all you can offer then it is all people want from you". Eventually they'll go looking for something else. In all vtuber group, I like Hololive the most because the talents are 'grounded'. There are rules and lines they cannot cross. Those rules are for the benefit of both the talents and viewers.

    • @abdoufma
      @abdoufma ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Very well put

  • @GranMaj
    @GranMaj ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Honestly, i can't see Fauna as a mommy trope anymore solely because her is such a memelord. the biggest reason i like fauna is because of her random dumb tangent. And she is not a normies memelord either, she is in the deepfried variety.

    • @TheRealJohnux
      @TheRealJohnux ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Ah yes, when Faunas Vibes and personality Collide With the fact that she has atleast more than 13+ years of Internet knowledge, memes and obscure things at that, the most random topics that come out without warning and a mindset best described as competitve.

    • @stormwatcheagle5448
      @stormwatcheagle5448 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yeah like, if you actually watch her content, you realize she's the least seiso in the gen (besides maybe Sana, who is eternal). It's just that she is far more sophisticated than most with her innuendo and knows not to spam it. She is definitely on the older and "cultured" side of Holomems.

    • @couchking4223
      @couchking4223 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah I always got more cultured dorky older sister type from her, she us really supportive of the saplings but has no issue bullying like and older sibling should, the biggest thing for me is she is WAY too cultured in a if you know you know kinda way, she is too close in age for me to consider mommy like her refrences always hit way to close to home like she just like me fr fr, she is a millennial who grew up in the golden age of the internet and is now a professional memelord

    • @StarboyXL9
      @StarboyXL9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "solely because she's such a memelord"
      That just enhances the mommy appeal for those of us who've been $#!tposting since before the Great Meme Wars

  • @NeuronActivation
    @NeuronActivation ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Fauna really portays that motherly vtuber trope very well. Both in model and in voice, plus is goes with her character. Seeing as to how she's known as mother nature.

  • @Matt-fl6ys
    @Matt-fl6ys ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Rest assured. Fauna does and will pull out a mommy style "Ara Ara" when the need arises. Kobo in her birthday stream recieved the full force of Fauna's "Ara Ara" and Kobo freaked out when it hit and after Fauna left the stream.

  • @cikame
    @cikame ปีที่แล้ว +98

    I don't see Fauna as a mommy she's like the EN version of Watame, a comfortable fluffy pillow friend, her cowkini period was hilarious because it's so out of character but you could tell she's passionate about cowkinis for some reason, it's "adorkable", like Watame who WANTS to be sexy but her fans won't let her, these two girls are too pure they can't lewd themselves even if they tried.
    I know Fauna won the EN mommy poll by a landslide, probably because EN doesn't have one, but i think the most mom member of Hololive is Choco, purposely putting on the onesan voice, always cooking for other members, giving the impression of a well maintained home (famous for her luxury bed), having that character design and teasing viewers, I'll agree with Mio cus she's so insanely wholesome and supportive of her friends.

    • @santiagomoralesgarcia1802
      @santiagomoralesgarcia1802 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The hololive EN mommy is Kiara, maybe because she is the older one (maybe), life experience, emotional, and she has done well the mamá role play with Kobo.
      Fauna is more like an onesan like Ina and sana

    • @DogratDavis
      @DogratDavis ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Watame would be a Mommy if it weren't for her massive eyes and cute baby shaped head

    • @cikame
      @cikame ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@santiagomoralesgarcia1802 I see Kiara as euro genki mixed with crazy cat lady :P

    • @HudaefCares
      @HudaefCares ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think Mio is the most mom-like Holomem, even Holomems call her mama. Choco-sensei is actually more like that oneesan who is reliable but also has her immature moments. She has the tendency of doing things she likes obsessively to the point where it's too much. The woman literally ginded endermen to the point she got to lvl 300+ "just because", then lost those levels "just because", then grinded endermen again to level 504... "Just because." She's the only Holomem (other than Sora maybe) that Pekora _really_ didn't wanna kill, coz she felt so guilty of the thought that Choco-sensei will lose 500 levels because of her. Choco-sensei weaponized that guilt and trolled Pekora hard lmao

  • @Kris-od3sj
    @Kris-od3sj ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The way you describe Fauna and Saplings' relationship, it reminds me of Suisei and Stargazers' one. The Vtuber not playing into some trait makes the fans want it way more. A different trait, but a similar effect.

  • @yokami_9408
    @yokami_9408 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Saplings are just all wholesome, it's incredible. It feels like you took every nice human on the planet and put them all in a chat

    • @SelecaoOfMidas
      @SelecaoOfMidas ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Wholesome, yet h0rny... Sounds like the Takodachis, but less into the 4th WAH.
      I may or may not have both Ina and Fauna as an Oshi. 😅

    • @yokami_9408
      @yokami_9408 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SelecaoOfMidas It happens that i may be in the same case
      Just that Ina is not streaming much lately so i only watch Fauna
      and i don't feel like Saplings are THAT horny

    • @husariuspl117
      @husariuspl117 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@yokami_9408 I think Sapplings are a special type of horny, less in a lewd way and more in a "we wanna hug her so bad"

    • @yokami_9408
      @yokami_9408 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@husariuspl117 i think this description is pretty accurate xD

  • @MeguminDStaff1007
    @MeguminDStaff1007 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Talking about the mommy trope with that specific monogatari soundtrack is making my brain loose some braincells lol. Thanks for the very infomative video Nousagi

  • @RemitheDreamfox
    @RemitheDreamfox ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Yaaaaaaaay~ More Nousagi content! :D

  • @chaosfire321
    @chaosfire321 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Favorite Vtuber archetype fr fr. I like both the horny curvy mommys and the warm supportive mommies. Honestly, my favorite right now is an indie named Sasin who, washboard tan abs nonwithstanding, isn't really that sexual.
    But her being a mother and elementary school teacher in real life makes her streams feel so relaxing and inviting to be a part of. Especially when her voice is smooth as butter. You can just feel the supportiveness from Harpy Dragon Mom.

  • @BlaZay
    @BlaZay ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is super interesting. I never really tried to analyse the parallels between Vtubers and anime, and even then I usually rely on my own intuition, so having it put into words I can agree or disagree with is a great idea. Looking forward to this series!

  • @vincenttorrijos9680
    @vincenttorrijos9680 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Well, you were right, this is certainly a topic that REALLY caught me off guard

    • @DepressedNousagi
      @DepressedNousagi  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This isn't what I was referring to on stream hehe. Its way worse.

  • @disodosid
    @disodosid ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really hope this "VTuber Tropes" becomes a series! Am subscribing on that hope!

  • @dohickey7184
    @dohickey7184 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The legend has returned, welcome back king

  • @ConsNSG
    @ConsNSG ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. For some reason though, when I think about someone hearing "the mommy market is oversaturated" out of context I can't help but laugh.

  • @Draconis7200
    @Draconis7200 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really didn't expect much form this vid, but you articulated this so well, I really can't fault you on any of it. Thank you for this down to earth explanation of this trope.

  • @srankhunterliz6843
    @srankhunterliz6843 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok here is a hot-take. I am a sapling with all my heart and I love the soft spoken Fauna, but when she used her deep voice while playing the CouncilRyS RPG, I think my panties got wetter than ever before. I dont usually look at her in a seiso way, but more in a kinda motherly way, but THAT DEEP VOICE BROKE ME

  • @MildlyOCD
    @MildlyOCD ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I hope you get around to "the gremlin" archetype, aka "the shitposter".
    They're similar to the kusogaki, but they have a less smug aura to them. Mostly just angry & loud, & (usually) really wholesome.

    • @Dragonbeander
      @Dragonbeander ปีที่แล้ว +5

      you mean ame

    • @MildlyOCD
      @MildlyOCD ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Dragonbeander Ame, Mumei, Kronii to some extent, Enna, most of PhaseConnect. & That's just who I know of.

    • @gokbay3057
      @gokbay3057 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would include Kobo in there as well.

    • @icebear4571
      @icebear4571 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd add Ironmouse to the Gremlin list, lmao.

    • @pax6833
      @pax6833 ปีที่แล้ว

      Baelz

  • @squalleonkeneddyheart4191
    @squalleonkeneddyheart4191 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    That's why Kronii is my Oshi she is one of a Kind.
    In Paper she is a Narcissist who loves herself and no one else and bounces off with chat in a Comedic relationship.
    During Girls collabs she is mostly the Bottom of the Joke and is constantly being Bullied and gets her work cut out for her and loses.
    During Male collabs she is the Opposite and is the one Dominating and make the Boys look like the Jokes.
    There are probably more but yeah these are the reason why Kronii is my Oshi

    • @ThePontiffofPonWolf
      @ThePontiffofPonWolf ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Unless she is in a holosalt Collab then she owns the stream and everyone will fall to the clock
      Edit: results of me replying before I finished reading the comment lol

    • @ThePontiffofPonWolf
      @ThePontiffofPonWolf ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I like Kronii due to her unreal gap moe between her narcissistic character and her bottom rung self esteem reality

    • @shocksword6847
      @shocksword6847 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Kronii is honestly such a gem. She bullies, she gets bullied, but it's also hilarious how Japanese Hololive members absolutely adore her despite her Japanese speaking skills. That's another thing too, she knows how to pronounce Japanese words as if she's an S-tier voice actress, but when it comes to actually conversing with other people, she struggles since she's not fluent. She's just perfect.

    • @tertmade9769
      @tertmade9769 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Kronii is "mommy" just by model and voice

    • @squalleonkeneddyheart4191
      @squalleonkeneddyheart4191 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@shocksword6847 yeah man Kronii is indeed special, it's always exciting to watch her streams or see Dozens of Clips made for her since majority of the time you will discover something thing new and funny and still stick to her Schtick. Was worried shitless during her Surgery since from my research she shouldn't even be talking let alone Fly to Japan to perform lol I just hope she ain't pushing herself too much.

  • @omarrojo9484
    @omarrojo9484 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So glad you're back, missed your content

  • @trstmeimadctr
    @trstmeimadctr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think Fauna coes off as a mommy because in real life she probably gives off that feeling even without the anime avatar attached, and it's hard to overwrite your base characteristics

  • @umbraemilitos
    @umbraemilitos ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Ame has "cool aunt" or "responsible much older sister" qualities. Protective and Caring, but not motherly or "onee-san" tropes.

    • @Awootistic
      @Awootistic ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Man I wish my cool aunt uses gamer words.

    • @ThePontiffofPonWolf
      @ThePontiffofPonWolf ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My bet is Ame is gonna fall into the heart category which makes a lot of sense

  • @ransan
    @ransan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:12 I knew this was coming, I was patiently waiting for it since the start of the video.

  • @justin02199x
    @justin02199x ปีที่แล้ว +9

    THE MOMMY
    Me: I'm into that shit

  • @lyconxero457
    @lyconxero457 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    I really do think that one of the things that turns me off about a lot of Vtubers is the over-sexualization. Vshojo is by and large just the largest corpo where this can be seen among many of it's talents. I've tried to check out all of them because I love Ironmouse so much but honestly none of the others do it for me at all. Even Kson who I normally like has gone down a more sexualized path that I'm simply not interested in. I see so many independent Vtubers out there with incredibly lewd models and of course all the content you see from many of them is also lewd so even if there IS more to them that's the first impression that's put out there. For whatever reason, I just keep getting pushed back towards Hololive and their talents overall because they strike a better balance of cuteness with only a touch of the yabai. Hololive clips also almost always focus on funny situations or moments which to me is just more entertaining on the whole. Obviously, everyone has their own personal tastes and thankfully there are so many Vtubers nowadays that you're bound to find at least a few that fit what you're into.

    • @GranMaj
      @GranMaj ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Yep, Vshoujo is basically a borderline camgirls org now besides mouse. And i like mouse in tangent because i like CDawgVA. There is no other spectrum in Vshoujo, since too much freedom is not necessarily good. With hololive there is something for everyone.

    • @SeaRaven227
      @SeaRaven227 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@GranMaj Yup, myself i call them Vthots. The only one i have any form of respect for is Mouse, she's been through enough to have that strong... idk "wisdom" side to her?

    • @victoriazero8869
      @victoriazero8869 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      VTubers using sex as bait an outgrown it is a tried and true formula ever since VTuber become streaming content instead of premade videos. You say not Hololive but tend to forget who is Natsuiro Matsuri and many, many of her cohorts. The problem is some VTubers actually double down and get MORE lewd. Culminating with actual AVTuber becoming a thing now.

    • @cuongquoc5877
      @cuongquoc5877 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@victoriazero8869 Matsuri is weird cuz she is not even trying to play or be sexual. She's just a degenerate like many of us, she's basically a degenerative fan, who is also a Vtuber. Marine is definitely trying to play into her sex obsessive character but most fans like her more as a depressive older sister auntie than a sex maniac

    • @GranMaj
      @GranMaj ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@victoriazero8869 that's exactly what I said that hololive has something for everyone. Even Matsuri that is generally yabai still had decency with her model. The only one hololive member that just straight up "Coomerbait" is marine, but even that was played half jokingly and on a tasteful manner. But with Vshoujo it was like 90% coomerbait.

  • @lucasling5260
    @lucasling5260 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Historians studying this piece of history then writing in their thesis "In Image 1.1 we can see one of the many "Png-Tubers" of the 21th century , the video in question is of said "Png-tuber" disscussing of the trope known as the "mommy trope within the culture of "Vtubing"

    • @ArjunTheRageGuy
      @ArjunTheRageGuy ปีที่แล้ว

      21th century? Don't you mean "21st century"?

  • @YarugumaSou
    @YarugumaSou ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Who doesn't wanna hear their mommy telling boomer memes and string theories while brutally killing people in Hitman with a soothing voice huh?

  • @HanayoSora
    @HanayoSora ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for making this

  • @ijiikieru
    @ijiikieru ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I see Fauna as an Onee-san that recently became a young mother.

  • @ikigaiRys21
    @ikigaiRys21 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "what you might not know if you don't have mother that love you"
    Daym! Ez Trashtalk 🤣🤣🤣
    That stray bullet may have killed a lot 😂

  • @Piprup
    @Piprup ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dude... You are the only person on the entire internet that can make a vid unironicaly analysing fucking MOMMIES in the VTuber industry and I would not only watch it, not only listen to it but be invested in it. Mommies aren't my fav archetype but thanks to this, I might start to appreciate (some of) them a bit more. I missed you mate, your takes are some of the best I've seen on TH-cam in a minute. Also I'd say Nina and Fauna are the absolutely best representation of this archetype, but I'd say Nina does it a little better, with her not being all coomer bait, yet all her fans and colleges keep calling her mom (If Fauna didn't do the cowkiny thing I'd say she would be the best representative of this archetype)... The fuck have I written... YOU DID THIS

  • @zeppelins4ever
    @zeppelins4ever ปีที่แล้ว +2

    TBH, the more I watched of here, the less I thought of her as “mommy vtuber.” Now I just think she’s an absolute memelord and “just like me frfr.”
    UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU I MISS HER!!

  • @TheUnwisestWolf
    @TheUnwisestWolf ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving this new type of video and glad to see our favorite nousagi is back in business!

  • @RawBlue
    @RawBlue ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was worried for a sec when you said it can get boring real quick with a picture of Fauna in the background. I'm glad to see you appreciate Fauna as well, I feel she's heavily underrated. Honestly coomer bait does the exact opposite for me of what it's trying to accomplish and you said that very well here. Bravo!

  • @The00man
    @The00man ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man mommy chubbas are the best. Nina and Fauna streams are so comfy you can put them on whenever and chill

  • @lastnamefirstname8655
    @lastnamefirstname8655 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    mommy is very well beloved and appreciated everywhere all over the world.

  • @adamlopez2275
    @adamlopez2275 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Ooh! Is this gunna be a new series? Really cool!

  • @AceArata
    @AceArata ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yooo Chad Nousagi is back! AND the vid has my oshi in it! God I love Fauna!
    She's like an in-between of the mommy and onee-san trope, and my honest to God opinion is that her NOT leaning towards the sexual stuff is why she's my oshi. You feel safe and calm in her streams no matter what's happening, and too often mommy-type vtubers end up breaking that safe calm vibe to get a sex joke in there somewhere which takes away from the overall experience.
    I lean towards Fauna being an onee-san, but i completely see why lots of saplings - and even Holomyth themselves - see her as a mommy.

  • @BakusanDayo
    @BakusanDayo ปีที่แล้ว +8

    For how many clips we saw of her in this video, I was really hoping I could hear nousagi's take on the Mio-mama. Like, how other members interact with her strengthens her mommy role. A bit of a missed opportunity maybe to not go to the streamer who gets mother day donations from fans (the clip was shown!)

    • @MioshaEnjoyer
      @MioshaEnjoyer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fr tho, got really high hopes for that 😔

    • @stefanyuwono1909
      @stefanyuwono1909 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ngl, half way through, I thought nousagi was talking about mio

  • @Zoten001
    @Zoten001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Funny how this comes out after the video that was announcing the merch for the Hololive EN concert.
    There was a trivia question that asked which of the talents had the most motherly feel, and Fauna won by a PARSEC.

  • @pedrofelipefreitas2666
    @pedrofelipefreitas2666 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Fauna has always striked me as an older sister type, of girl-next-door, she feels too young to be mommy.
    The only vtubers that makes me think "mommy" are Nina from NijiEN and Mio from HoloJP. That's it, they feel mature and experienced, they also very rarely become flustered.

    • @gokbay3057
      @gokbay3057 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      With Nina (and kind of Mio, but I can't speak of her much because I have pretty much never watched her and 4chan hag love memes, might be pushing her more towards "mommy" in my mind) feels less like "mommy" and more like "mother" to me.

    • @pedrofelipefreitas2666
      @pedrofelipefreitas2666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gokbay3057 i believe you're right, which means there really isn't a mommy (attractive, older than 30, domineering personality) in holo or niji, get to work guys, That's a big share of the market!

    • @HudaefCares
      @HudaefCares ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@pedrofelipefreitas2666 You've never seen those clips of Mio being savage towards Subaru then huh xD
      Major Arcana #310 Big God Mion (yes that's their channel name) aka Major Arcana is a dedicated Mio clipper, he even translated Mio's yearly tarot card reading streams... Mio's tarot readings are notorious for being scarily accurate. Mio read Rushia's fortune, "think before reacting to bad stuff happening to you"... (paraphrasing) that was a month before Rushia was terminated. She also gave advice to Pekora to not ditch the "peko".

  • @SWIFTO_SCYTHE
    @SWIFTO_SCYTHE ปีที่แล้ว +5

    5:45 !!!!! Our Tenshi - Nene Amano !!! Cloudtomo represent

  • @hackerex4787
    @hackerex4787 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:42 Woah man, straight for the throat on that one

  • @couturissime
    @couturissime ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i am SO glad someone mentioned the idea that someone who sexualizes themselves can make them lose sex appeal. ive been thinking the exact same thing for a while in designing my own character, finally someone THINKS so!!! i havent heard anyone mention anything like that u_u i thought i was just crazy or something

  • @TheDexDrive
    @TheDexDrive ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Fauna is my oshi i watch (listen) all her streams.
    I've never saw her as an overall mommy type, rather as a cool but kinda clumsy aunt that visit's from time to time.
    I just like her Voice it gives me a comfy feeling, but not in a mommy way, i cannot really describe it.
    If i have to describe the feeling fauna gives me... rather really cute i have the urge to cuddle her all the time (thats the only way i can describe it).
    Not in a sexual way or anything ive never had any desire to lewd her it just fells not right.
    The example with the cowkini was good, it felt rather cringe because Fauna is not lewd (most of the time).
    It felt like she was trying hardcore to be sexy because she saw a trend and hoppet on it.
    But i heard many people saying that she felt like a mommy, but not for me well maybe thats just me getting older (nearly 30).
    The only Vtuber i can think of that give me real mommy vibes is a small Indie Vtuber named Lucahjins.

  • @jhaydee7203
    @jhaydee7203 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice to see you back DN.

  • @keithgoh123
    @keithgoh123 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man you're demanding too much lol
    That cowkini was great.

    • @TheRealJohnux
      @TheRealJohnux ปีที่แล้ว

      100% real
      Definitly not a cardboard cutout

  • @legitrequisite
    @legitrequisite ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ah yes my favorite subject

  • @dannyd.9932
    @dannyd.9932 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I can see where you’re coming from but i for one can’t see Fauna in the mommy category. She fits better with the Oneesan. Maybe that’s just me but it’s what I see.

  • @gregd806
    @gregd806 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Scarle Yonaguni: The mommy wasn't... Because she is a Hard working, Chaotic, fun, and all over the place Older sister...
    Who has Red Bull cans all over the place...

  • @InterventioN746
    @InterventioN746 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:40 you pretty much described Twitch ethots with Vtuber avatars pretty damn well.

  • @marwynmentis3419
    @marwynmentis3419 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Vshojo leaned way too hard into the lewd bit. At this point they're just the e-brothel.

  • @kura100
    @kura100 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another underrated vtuber mommy I HIGHLY recommend that's not just a shallow coomer horni bait is "Rui Amagami". She's a solo japanese vtuber that can speak both English and japanese so fluently that she can switch between them really smoothly. Due to her being full blood japanese but she was born and grew up in america.
    Especially by far, Rui's voice is the mommiest sounding voice I've heard so far. More on the older and deeper side of voice. And she does ASMR, positive affirmations and casual chatting stream without overly trying too hard to be a mommy type of vtuber. I highly recommend her ASMR videos and script reading videos that she does.
    I can't recommend her enough if someone's looking for an even older and mature type of mommy vtuber. 🙏

  • @arccanyne9097
    @arccanyne9097 ปีที่แล้ว

    So this is what you meant when you didn't want to reveal anything on stream, excellent. This is truly your official return cause, oh my god, that was amazing. One last time, welcome back bro, hope you stay for a lot more time now.
    Nothing describes vtubers more than tropes I think, so having a series analyze every vtuber trope would be amazing. I want one on the gf next, pls.

  • @vashdesperado1232
    @vashdesperado1232 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seriously, having never had a caring mother figure in real life, this mommy thing has really helped me mentally. I know it's totally parasocial but the warmth and comfort they provide is something I've always been lacking. It's so nice to just hear someone who (pretends) to genuinely love and care for you. I can finally sleep in peace 😊

  • @rig4O4
    @rig4O4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Monumental mammaries" LMAO

  • @TheAAJYu
    @TheAAJYu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This unironically has the potential to be an interesting series. Can’t wait for an episode centered on the “kusogaki.”

  • @DreamyAileen
    @DreamyAileen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ookami Mio walked so Ceres Fauna could run

  • @theelementalstation947
    @theelementalstation947 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do love how everyone assumed that Scarle was going to be a “mommy” and ended up being the little sister that just went through a massive growth spurt due to her just being such an airhead. Kinda similar to Silver too.

  • @ZurinArctus0
    @ZurinArctus0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fauna : I am an oneesan
    Sapling : you are mommy
    *Fauna become mommy
    Calli : I am your boi mori
    Deadbeat : you are our dad
    *Calli become dad

  • @peasantkyr
    @peasantkyr ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wasn’t expecting to hear DN explaining the biological effects of childbirth, but here we are

  • @Player22095
    @Player22095 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Next Episode: The Yandere Trope

  • @defadera_736
    @defadera_736 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have no idea how you can say this stuff straight, i was laughing the entire way bro

  • @moisesfreire6408
    @moisesfreire6408 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Man I love MIL- I mean Mommy type of characters.

  • @Sotau890
    @Sotau890 ปีที่แล้ว

    *Mommy: one who is thousands year mythical figure while some are high school student who has wolf ears*

  • @shkamarustorm
    @shkamarustorm ปีที่แล้ว

    To put a bit more context on why it's so easy for fauna, in her prvious life she was an RP Asmrtist so falling into a character is extremely natural to her. Although interestingly she rarely went into a Mommy character

  • @thiagobaquero3925
    @thiagobaquero3925 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    there are a lot of mommy's and not enough daddy's, from now on, this depressed rabbit is going to be my dad

  • @YourTypicalMental
    @YourTypicalMental ปีที่แล้ว +9

    God, I love Nina Kosaka.

    • @YourTypicalMental
      @YourTypicalMental ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love her not because she's motherly, I love her because I'd want to be fatherly. If she's your mommy, I wanna be your daddy.
      Please don't read this Nina!

  • @corbeaudejugement
    @corbeaudejugement 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that fanfic at 10:05 was truly one of the pieces of literature of all time.

  • @Rad_Crab
    @Rad_Crab ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Return
    of the King

  • @electronresonator8882
    @electronresonator8882 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fauna plays her onee-san chara up till now, and sometimes she feels competitive in matter of attractiveness, where tried the mommy aura, it didn't affect that much on her fame, but then her fans like her not because of her ara ara, so my conclusion, Fauna is mature onee-san, who's is mature enough to be a young mother

  • @sixofender3478
    @sixofender3478 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why... why is this somehow Educational and Entertaining its not a shitpost? Goddamn

  • @miguelaponte8876
    @miguelaponte8876 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Then there's Mio Mama.

  • @ThePontiffofPonWolf
    @ThePontiffofPonWolf ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looking forward to the seiso and comedian vids
    Petition to include a Chisaka Airi segment in the seiso vid

  • @Diavolo989
    @Diavolo989 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fauna is the whole package:
    She is soothing to listen she is a secret tryhard gamer and just all around a green ball of fluffy feelings.
    She's easy to listen to and very relatable on many levels.
    Also she kinda yandere so she's dipping her toes in multiple demographic pools.

  • @LauLessPariah
    @LauLessPariah ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I missed his voice. The way he talks is perfect for documentary videos

  • @f1r3hunt3rz5
    @f1r3hunt3rz5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fans just wanna be loved, feel supported and, most importantly, feel *pampered.* At least that's why this is my favourite trope.

  • @pax6833
    @pax6833 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ceres Fauna pidgeonholed herself. She's too naturally mommy to be an onee san. It helps that her voice and the way she talks, instead of being sultry, is comfy, which encourages the motherly aspect.
    I also like that Fauna's design doesn't play into mommy stereotypes. It's this lack of stereotyping which makes her persona feel more natural. You don't immediately expect a mommy when you see her, which makes her personality hit you even harder when you listen to her.
    Honestly I can't believe I slept on her so long. She's easily my top 3, maybe even most favorite, vtuber.
    It also helps that by not indulging in sex pandering, it heightens her desirability by giving saplings the fantasy of lewding her. I definitely think that there is a STRONG kink for corrupting older women just as much as people enjoy being on the receiving end.

  • @spleenrippasgubbinz2178
    @spleenrippasgubbinz2178 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your bit about VSHOJO hits the nail right on the head for me, and applies to a decent chunk of EN vtubing as well. I already find fanservice-y character models a red flag as it screams laziness by the company/vtuber, but save for Holo EN and Rosemi from Niji EN, the EN vtubing scene seems to be dominated by genitalia screamers judging from the clips YT recs me from VSHOJO, Niji EN and others.

  • @MookieMarkova
    @MookieMarkova ปีที่แล้ว

    This series is going to be a wild ride. Wew!

  • @IAm-yg6ml
    @IAm-yg6ml ปีที่แล้ว +1

    new DN video is a massive W

  • @ChechiresWorld
    @ChechiresWorld ปีที่แล้ว

    My man of culture uses the monogatari melody