This knife generated so many ripples, I almost didn’t want to feed the hype. But I decided to publish it anyway because I love it when Chinese companies brutally compete with one another! This knife, by far is NOT a Bugout ender, it is Kizer and WE who should be worried about this new “in your face!” move from Walmart. Because, after taking a decade to carefully reshape public opinion, get the form and function correct, and nurturing a whole generation of TH-cam infomercial drones (you know who they are) all to push their knife prices above $50, Walmart is taking their lunch money 🤣😆 AWESOME
Do you mean Benchmade should be worried about Kizer and WE? Or should Kizer and WE be worried about Benchmade/the Bugout? It's gotta be the former, right? lol
During the "hype smasher machine" test, the weight dropping on the bugout is much closer to the knife base than compared to the OT test. During the OT testing, it's dropping at the very tip of the blade. This is going to cause much more strain on the OT than the bugout. Since the knives have almost exactly the same blade length and shape, this seems like an obviously biased test in favor of the bugout.
@@jeffventure6078 This video is actually going to pay for the knife as I make about $4 per 1K views. So if it gets 3K views, there I am - ready for the next Walmart knife or even 2.
Thanks for the review. I was pleasantly surprised by the heat treat of the OT knife. Your engineer's perspective of the grind affecting tip strength (and failure) was educational. I would have just assumed it was a heat treat issue. I always learn something from your objective tests and professional perspective.
Yeah, I didn't know that about hollow grinds. Really does feel like you're getting to see in the back of a machine shop with a machinist when you watch this channel. AND I did get my giveaway item and it's going in the knife case forever. Surprised the OT Insect held up as well as it did.
my take away , the Ozark trail 7.5 inch folding knife is well worth the 9.97+tax you pay for it , if your going to use it for what it is designed for ( cutting ) and will give you the same edge retention or better than S30V . My man im glad you made this video alot of peeps gonna be butthurt over your comment about S30v being designed to equal D2 in edge retention while being stainless.
@@anthonyrollins9825 All they would have to do is visit Crucible Industries website and realize that CPM S30V is listed under Stainless Tool Steels and then, if they really care, read the sales pitch on the Data Sheet: “CPM S30V offers substantial improvement in toughness over other high hardness steels such as 440C and D2, and its corrosion resistance is equal to or better than 440C in various environments.” Translation: S30V may be as stainless as 440C but can be heat treated to 62 HRC (WOW, 3.3% harder thanD2! which btw Benchmade geniuses choose not to do). Great comment, thanks!
S30V has superior wear resistance to D2, even if the D2 is harder. Hardness is not the only contributor to wear resistance. Carbide type and carbide volume have a huge impact, and S30V has harder vanadium carbide and vanadium-enriched chromium carbide while D2 has only the softer chromium carbide. Carbide volume is similar at 14.5% and 15.5% but S30V has much harder carbides in its total. Even at maximum HRC, D2 will have significantly less wear resistance than S30V at 58HRC. Hardness helps wear resistance but it cannot make up for a lack of high hardness carbides.
@@rhinosaur. That’s all technically correct, but the source of D2 plays a major role in edge retention and toughness. The content tolerance is quite wide and batch to batch variations are well known and documented, even between Carpenter, Bohler, and Crucible. When you start bringing Chinese-produced D2 into equation, all bets are off. The other aspect is the geometry of the entire blade, not just the edge.
I’ve got a few friends that picked them up to see what all the noise was about - all of them developed pivot wobble (for lack of a better term, the blade moves in 3 different dimensions so just saying blade play doesn’t seem to really get the point across) and the lock bars started to deform/take damage. That’s just a few weeks of light use. To anyone considering buying one of these - spend the 30-45 bucks and get something from qsp, Kizer, sencut, real steel, cjrb, etc.
@@just9911 this thing would be 100% better on washers instead of the plastic bearings! I guess copper, being a traded commodity and the main element in bronze, would drive the price up by at least 14 cents! 🤣😂😆
@@CuttingBoardRx I always prefer washers over bearings. While I don’t work in an overly gritty/dusty/sandy environment, I do like the added bit of resistance to fouling that comes with washers.
@@richardkev3077 Batoning is one of the easiest tasks a pocket knife can do, if the person using it knows how to place it and where to not strike it. It looks impressive on camera, but it is not the worst thing you could do to a knife by far.
@@luisnouel4268Now, after watching other reviews and reading some comments on this thread, I think you totally get what you pay for with the INsect (Ozark) sorry if you feel differently, but the Bug is totally worth $110 I paid for it.
Not a huge fan of the lock test. Doesn’t batonning wood create more centrifugal force on the pivot/lock due to resistance on the blade/edge near the pivot since, when batonning, you’re smacking the tip leaving more resistance from the wood on the blade/edge near the pivot? Your test there is only air under the blade.
Someone should send the Wugout to Cedric and Ada gear for his rope testing. I think the hype behind this knife has three components #1 it’s phenomenal price / quality ratio in this era of knifeflation it’s half the price of the nearest competitor which is the pyrite lite #2 Knife people are overjoyed that they can recommend a good knife that everyone can easily buy / they can finally buy a decent knife for all their friends and family for almost nothing, #3 the collective disgust with benchmade's pricing increases which is most glaring with the bugout ($180 for S30V and grivory), until now most “bugout killers” have been pretty expensive and half-baked (the deka’s ergos are pretty bad and the knife has the cheapest feeling FRN handles I’ve ever held). I think many are hoping that this will be a wake-up call for benchmade.
@@CuttingBoardRx I agree that it’s area of competition is Wi and CJRB, ect. in the $20-30 range. The bugout’s premium features are it’s weight, blade steel, and country of manufacture. it’s over-priced for what it is, but it is in a different class from the wugout. But I’ve sharpened plenty of gas-station knives, this (The ozark trail) isn’t one. The fact that it has a steel that is heat treated well, and can be sharpened without a gummy nightmare burr already places it a cut above. It has a decent fit and finish and is well designed for cutting performance which also makes it better. The real beauty is if you have friends who ask you to sharpen their gas-station knives, you can give them this to use instead and save yourself a ton of pain when they bring it to you dull.
@@nandayane which one is which though? I’m not sure which knife has won. Clearly Ozark has a much much better edge and action out the blister pack. Which I happens to be more important for more people than the bugout’s weight and ability to stab a tree to some. Thanks for watching!
@@CuttingBoardRx I think the Wugout (ozark trail) is a better knife for most people, it performs well enough for their needs and is comes sharper, is easy to sharpen and maintain, as well as cheap to replace if they damage it or loose it. I think it’s a huge upgrade from a lot of the knives sold in big box stores, or at gas stations. The hype around it has to do with it having a better balance of characteristics than the bugout for most people. (Also largely with having a better balance than most budget brands) If you are an enthusiast I think the bug-out is better, it’s lighter in pocket, has a better blade steel, and a stronger tip. The comparison between the two is reminiscent of the Mora Vs Premium knife Brand discussions I see online. The mora isn’t better than let’s say a Bark River Knife, but it is good enough for enthusiasts, and an excellent balance of characteristics for everyone else.
@@D2G10 I seriously doubt that your Bowie knife has a .09” blade. And, if you don’t understand the implications and consequences of the fact that your Bowie is likely to be .180” thick, you should consider asking questions rather than making statements.
@@CuttingBoardRx My bowie blade is 6mm thick. I guess it is too hard for you to comprehend. You'd better stop being a passive aggressive bald asshole instead of making any assumptions about anything. Hollow grind is weak when the blade stock is very thin. So stating that hollow grind is weak is nonsense to put it mildly. Correct way to say it was: This blade has thin stock so hollow grind makes it weak.
@@CuttingBoardRx .09" is 2.3mm you f*cking degen. Can't even convert 6mm to inches. My bowie blade is 6mm thick. I guess it is too hard for you to comprehend. You'd better stop being a passive aggressive bald a-hole and stop making any assumptions about anything. Hollow grind is "weak" only when the blade stock is very thin. So stating that hollow grind is weak is nonsense to put it mildly. Correct way to say it was: This blade has thin stock so hollow grind makes it weak - no tip geometry would've fixed that on a thin blade like that so you are again wrong like a mofo you are..
I tried to approve the second comment that you made so that everyone could see that intellectual pursuit and good manners aren’t your particular fortes. Unfortunately, TH-cam algorithm is still blocking it because of the language. One should practice using allegory and sarcasm instead of blunt statements supported by nothing but your childish angst. Have a joyful life rest of your life, Biff Tannen.
@@Biomass1 I think pretty much every Axis lock Benchmade is a candidate for a “lifetime knife” however… The way they skip over little details like beautiful edge or smooth action out of the box is what bothers people who now expect the same sharpness and smoothness as WE or Kizer offer even at lower prices.
Speaking of reviewing orange handled folders, how about reviewing the Sage5 in Rex 121? Pretty sure you'll break the tip on that one in the tree of doom. Hell, it might even break on the spine/lock test being as hard as it is. I have a copy if you're interested in a disassembly and HRC test video. Lol ...no tree of doom though. Thanks for the video. Cheers!
@@JohnDoe-zb7dz I appreciate the offer, but I’m yet to find a Spyderco knife that claims to be something it is not! However, if you’re super interested in such test, you can find my email address in the channel description.
Have you ever looked up the raw material cost of rex121??? If you haven't go check out some barons and see how crazy expensive rex121 is. The blade blank alone is like 90 bucks not including machining/grinding time plus all the 2nds and throw aways. Personally it's hard to believe they can do the LW version at 255 street price. I mean don't get me wrong they are most definitely making some money of course but not what you are thinking. Exotic steel's that aren't made in huge amounts are EXTREMELY expensive. They are also very temperamental in heat treatment and just hard to work with as a whole. Spyderco doing a full production knife in rex121 says a lot about the company and how Eric runs it. They are here for the steel nerd community and no one else is able to do what they do. Kunwu is trying to be the china version of Spyderco and I applaud them for working with PM60 and S390 and doing a pretty good job with it but what Spyderco does is really something special and I highly doubt we will see another company doing what they do any time soon.
Another highly informative video. Don't you hate it when you think you're recording but you're not? I once did a whole hour and a half interview for my radio show and realize afterwards that my machine wasn't recording.😢😅 and it wasn't the first time!
It's not anywhere close to current market MSRP. That's a simple fact. Saying "well, I bought it at the Navy PX" or "I know a benchmade rep" or "I bought it second hand" is not apples to apples. MSRP on the full size bugout with "Grivory" handles (aka benchmade version of zytel) is appx 180.00 USD. Most of their models of bugout actually eclipse the 200 USD mark and they even have some BM bugout models that are >300 US Dollars. So yes, I would call 110.00 an outlier figure, sir.
Is it just me or when you find an amazing rival budget option, it just feels really good? Great video! Hope to see quiet carry video one day and the damasteel corrosion test!
I got one today and for the money I'm darn impressed so far! I have had it like 10 hours but dang. It's cheap. Benchmade is definitely better. But this thing seems alright.
@@mrmouse-ol9pw Their cost is $72. They make about $9 on each one they ship to retailers. They make $108 when sell it directly minus the website and financial service fees.
All the channels saying it's a Bugout killer is just silly... All this people trying to say it's equally well build or superior are flat full of crap and they are forgetting that with the Bugout they have a forever warranty, break a blade or sharpen out the blade and Benchmade will take care of you as where with the OT it's a use it till it breaks and then buy another. Plus the whole pride of ownership thing, personally I have no pride of ownership walking around with Walmart china made knife in my pocket so that in its self kills it for me. Thank you CBRX for keep it real!
@@CuttingBoardRxnot in person but plan on buying one. Some guys on You tube said it was great 😉. For the price it seems like something I'd like to have around.
@@LostTrailX Internally, there is nothing in common between the two knives other than the slight visual resemblance and the Axis lock, whose patent expired in 2017.
He has no reason to try and put out false testing I mean look at his channel. He is all about testing and seeing what the knives are capable of and he isn't making money off the sell of more Bugouts or more Ozark knives... He's showing you what happened to this knife and that knife and if you fail to believe it that's on you. Common sense alone says the Bugouts tip will be tougher because of s30v having increased toughness over D2 and not to mention that the composition of China D2 is all over the place so that could have been a good batch or a bad batch and all in between... The Bugout has a flat grind and a steel with higher toughness so it's tip stability will be better.. the test showed exactly what SHOULD have happened and what should have happened DID.
Ozark Trail released a really good knife for a bargain price. If you consider all of it's attributes, and then compare the Bugout......it's clear to me and probably most folks that the Benchmade knife is waaaay overpriced.
@CuttingBoardRx disagree. The Benchmade should not be 200 dollars. You are nitpicking a couple of dollars and ignoring the elephant in the room. (Not trying to be mean, it was a great video and I subscribed, thanks friend)
@@rangefinderz5135 I don’t pay MSRP. If price is irrelevant, why complain about Benchmade? They are selling hundreds of thousands of knives a year to people that obviously think the price is right.
That’s funny. Lost all credibility when you set the OT to fail on the drop test lol. Like the angle and where you hit it was crazy different. And you did it right in front of a hd cam lol
No I like your videos they're entertaining and I've learned a lot from you and knives but you favor American made knives and you can tell that how easy you are on that bug out do what you did to the Ozark trail
@@Rumple-p5n Tell this to a $575 Chris Reeve Umnamzaan and $270 Benchmade Dacian whose tips were broken in this very tree. I give American companies more crap than Chinese because I find it unacceptable for an American made knife to perform worse than foreign ones. If you question my integrity, perhaps you should try another channel?
This shows me how really overpriced Benchmade knives are. Benchmade better listen up because the next upcoming Ozark with upgraded features will be knocking the Bugout's socks off at 1/18th the price.
@@ringaleavoit’s Ozark’s 4th attempt at a crossbar lock. The first one, 2022 $6 green handle, was mildly crappy, then last Christmas they released 2 really crappy $6 black ones, and now this one, which is less crappy than the first one or almost not crappy but for 44% more. I project: Benchmade will not be dropping prices any time soon. That said, Swiss Tech is kicking their hind for 1/6 th the price 🤣 while also messing with CIVIVI too
Used to be a big a Benchmade fan. But with their highly inflated price I’ve pretty much stopped collecting them. I have actually reverted back to collecting the “Old School” slipjoint pocket knives.
@@CuttingBoardRxwrong again. PRICE EQUIVALENCY= 3 gallons of Biden-Harris gasoline vs 67 gallons with the benchmade. Both knives will perform 99% equivalent tasks and never fail (by the way, no one is chopping wood and stabbing tree trunks a dozen times😂). Everyday tasks = breaking down cardboard, opening tough plastic packaging, cutting strings, etc. The question to ask is why is the benchmade costing you 20x as much? You have a great channel, but a huge blindspot
Range finder no "wrong again", CBRX was pretty spot on in his statement. Personally I have no interest in BM products because they are insultingly over priced but that doesn't mean that they don't make a quality piece and take care of the customers for the life of the knife. Personally I use my knives heavily at work and home and not just doing card board cutting down and opening boxes as do the millions of people that don't live and work in cities so cheap knives so not do 99% of what a quality knife does. Not even close actually.
I’m only a bit into the video, so you may have the same opinion or cover it later in the video but to me this isn’t going to hurt the bugout or Benchmade. Knives like this will likely hurt brands like Knafs which are “premium budget” brands. Someone who wants to buy a Benchmade is already way past a knife like this ozark trail. So that’s probably part of why the Knafs guys took such a negative stance on this knife.
Yeah these type knives aren't gonna hurt popular or heritage American brands... The companies that better be watching and paying attention are companies like WE/Civivi, Kizer, QSP and all the china brands that have spent the last ten years trying to bring up public opinion of China knives and now Walmarts riding that gravy train for them.... The quality china knife brands and all the people they OEM for will be the ones that this effects bottom line wise.
The fact that this ten dollar bottom shelf Walmart knife is being compared to a Benchmade at all says EVERYTHING one needs to know about Benchmade right now.
I have to be honest bro prying on most knives left and right will brake the tip, even carbon steel blades that are thin like these would brake; so I can honestly say that this an abuse of any knife and foolish to say the least!!!!! If that last test is what justifies paying 16 times more for a bench made knife then count me out; I will take the Ozark trail knife anytime and every time!!!!!
Dude I will give it to you you do know quite a bit about knives but on them test you're not accurate bro you were stabbing that Walmart knife in that tree a lot harder than your showing that bug out in that tree I seen how you wiggle them that Walmart night is not meant for that that is a slicer it is a Halo grind it's not meant for that and what knife is actually does that
Ozark Trail might be crap but Benchmade makes the most overpriced junk in the USA. They will never get another cent from me. I would buy 60 Ozarks before I would buy a Narrows.😐
Not a fan of your biased fake out name. Ozark trail will do unless you want to change the other knife to Bench Made wugout and you’re torture test doesn’t mean anything because a knife is meant to cut not a pry bar. Also what you get for $10 is a slicing blade, hence the thin hollow grind.
This knife generated so many ripples, I almost didn’t want to feed the hype. But I decided to publish it anyway because I love it when Chinese companies brutally compete with one another! This knife, by far is NOT a Bugout ender, it is Kizer and WE who should be worried about this new “in your face!” move from Walmart. Because, after taking a decade to carefully reshape public opinion, get the form and function correct, and nurturing a whole generation of TH-cam infomercial drones (you know who they are) all to push their knife prices above $50, Walmart is taking their lunch money 🤣😆 AWESOME
The cool thing is it’s made in America!
You mean the Bugout? Ozark Trail is a Chinese knife
@@CuttingBoardRx No, it’s made in America by imported Chinamen who fashion it from dogs.
Do you mean Benchmade should be worried about Kizer and WE? Or should Kizer and WE be worried about Benchmade/the Bugout? It's gotta be the former, right? lol
@@snakemaster7 I better clarify my original comment.
During the "hype smasher machine" test, the weight dropping on the bugout is much closer to the knife base than compared to the OT test. During the OT testing, it's dropping at the very tip of the blade. This is going to cause much more strain on the OT than the bugout. Since the knives have almost exactly the same blade length and shape, this seems like an obviously biased test in favor of the bugout.
@@XLJimmyHat Thanks for watching!
@@XLJimmyHat Thanks for watching!
@@XLJimmyHat Thanks for watching!
@@XLJimmyHat Thanks for watching!
Noticed the difference in drop location and the angle of the OT in the jig.
The amount of free product testing and technical scrutiny the youtube creators are giv8ng to walmart is amazing. Hope they use it
@@jeffventure6078 This video is actually going to pay for the knife as I make about $4 per 1K views. So if it gets 3K views, there I am - ready for the next Walmart knife or even 2.
@@CuttingBoardRx good point. The knowledge pool is deep dive in
Thanks for the review. I was pleasantly surprised by the heat treat of the OT knife. Your engineer's perspective of the grind affecting tip strength (and failure) was educational. I would have just assumed it was a heat treat issue. I always learn something from your objective tests and professional perspective.
@@johnhughes905 Thanks for being a subscriber! Music to my ears!
Yeah, I didn't know that about hollow grinds. Really does feel like you're getting to see in the back of a machine shop with a machinist when you watch this channel. AND I did get my giveaway item and it's going in the knife case forever.
Surprised the OT Insect held up as well as it did.
@@phthano2580 Thank you for this comment! Glad you got your little prize!
Thanks!
OMG!!! Thanks!
I bought one. It’s fine for $10. I stationed it in my truck glove box.
my take away , the Ozark trail 7.5 inch folding knife is well worth the 9.97+tax you pay for it , if your going to use it for what it is designed for ( cutting ) and will give you the same edge retention or better than S30V . My man im glad you made this video alot of peeps gonna be butthurt over your comment about S30v being designed to equal D2 in edge retention while being stainless.
@@anthonyrollins9825 All they would have to do is visit Crucible Industries website and realize that CPM S30V is listed under Stainless Tool Steels and then, if they really care, read the sales pitch on the Data Sheet: “CPM S30V offers substantial improvement in toughness over other high hardness steels such as 440C and D2, and its corrosion resistance is equal to or better than 440C in various environments.” Translation: S30V may be as stainless as 440C but can be heat treated to 62 HRC (WOW, 3.3% harder thanD2! which btw Benchmade geniuses choose not to do). Great comment, thanks!
No it didn't! Please stop! 🤣👎
@@johnruiz6743 take your rose colored glasses off and watch his video again.
S30V has superior wear resistance to D2, even if the D2 is harder. Hardness is not the only contributor to wear resistance. Carbide type and carbide volume have a huge impact, and S30V has harder vanadium carbide and vanadium-enriched chromium carbide while D2 has only the softer chromium carbide. Carbide volume is similar at 14.5% and 15.5% but S30V has much harder carbides in its total. Even at maximum HRC, D2 will have significantly less wear resistance than S30V at 58HRC. Hardness helps wear resistance but it cannot make up for a lack of high hardness carbides.
@@rhinosaur. That’s all technically correct, but the source of D2 plays a major role in edge retention and toughness. The content tolerance is quite wide and batch to batch variations are well known and documented, even between Carpenter, Bohler, and Crucible. When you start bringing Chinese-produced D2 into equation, all bets are off.
The other aspect is the geometry of the entire blade, not just the edge.
I’ve got a few friends that picked them up to see what all the noise was about - all of them developed pivot wobble (for lack of a better term, the blade moves in 3 different dimensions so just saying blade play doesn’t seem to really get the point across) and the lock bars started to deform/take damage.
That’s just a few weeks of light use.
To anyone considering buying one of these - spend the 30-45 bucks and get something from qsp, Kizer, sencut, real steel, cjrb, etc.
@@just9911 this thing would be 100% better on washers instead of the plastic bearings! I guess copper, being a traded commodity and the main element in bronze, would drive the price up by at least 14 cents!
🤣😂😆
@@CuttingBoardRx I always prefer washers over bearings. While I don’t work in an overly gritty/dusty/sandy environment, I do like the added bit of resistance to fouling that comes with washers.
Do you think you will be doing a follow up review of the mini taggedout? Very interested to see how it would hold up to your various testing!!
@@maxgortmaker3544 Hmm… you just gave me an idea! Thanks for subscribing!
Check out Dutch Bushcraft Knives. They batoned two different Bugouts, and both survived.
@@richardkev3077 Batoning is one of the easiest tasks a pocket knife can do, if the person using it knows how to place it and where to not strike it. It looks impressive on camera, but it is not the worst thing you could do to a knife by far.
Amazing knive for $10. I wonder about a quality of a Benchmade with the price of the Ozark
@@luisnouel4268Now, after watching other reviews and reading some comments on this thread, I think you totally get what you pay for with the INsect (Ozark) sorry if you feel differently, but the Bug is totally worth $110 I paid for it.
Not a huge fan of the lock test. Doesn’t batonning wood create more centrifugal force on the pivot/lock due to resistance on the blade/edge near the pivot since, when batonning, you’re smacking the tip leaving more resistance from the wood on the blade/edge near the pivot? Your test there is only air under the blade.
Great video as always. Love the more scientific approach. Better than someone holding it for 10 mins and making a “review”
@@TNea0926 Glad you’re enjoying! Thanks for subscribing!
thanks for the education on knife blade design!
Glad I could help! Thanks for subscribing!
The $5 white knife has similar liners to the bugout.
Someone should send the Wugout to Cedric and Ada gear for his rope testing. I think the hype behind this knife has three components
#1 it’s phenomenal price / quality ratio in this era of knifeflation it’s half the price of the nearest competitor which is the pyrite lite
#2 Knife people are overjoyed that they can recommend a good knife that everyone can easily buy / they can finally buy a decent knife for all their friends and family for almost nothing,
#3 the collective disgust with benchmade's pricing increases which is most glaring with the bugout ($180 for S30V and grivory), until now most “bugout killers” have been pretty expensive and half-baked (the deka’s ergos are pretty bad and the knife has the cheapest feeling FRN handles I’ve ever held). I think many are hoping that this will be a wake-up call for benchmade.
The quality of this knife corresponds to other Chinese knives in under $30 category. It is through and through a gas station knife.
Congrats on comparing a Kia to a Mercedes. (Meanwhile “patting yourself on the back” in the process.) Who woulda’ guessed the Mercedes won? Shocking.
@@CuttingBoardRx I agree that it’s area of competition is Wi and CJRB, ect. in the $20-30 range. The bugout’s premium features are it’s weight, blade steel, and country of manufacture. it’s over-priced for what it is, but it is in a different class from the wugout.
But I’ve sharpened plenty of gas-station knives, this (The ozark trail) isn’t one. The fact that it has a steel that is heat treated well, and can be sharpened without a gummy nightmare burr already places it a cut above. It has a decent fit and finish and is well designed for cutting performance which also makes it better. The real beauty is if you have friends who ask you to sharpen their gas-station knives, you can give them this to use instead and save yourself a ton of pain when they bring it to you dull.
@@nandayane which one is which though? I’m not sure which knife has won. Clearly Ozark has a much much better edge and action out the blister pack. Which I happens to be more important for more people than the bugout’s weight and ability to stab a tree to some. Thanks for watching!
@@CuttingBoardRx I think the Wugout (ozark trail) is a better knife for most people, it performs well enough for their needs and is comes sharper, is easy to sharpen and maintain, as well as cheap to replace if they damage it or loose it. I think it’s a huge upgrade from a lot of the knives sold in big box stores, or at gas stations. The hype around it has to do with it having a better balance of characteristics than the bugout for most people. (Also largely with having a better balance than most budget brands)
If you are an enthusiast I think the bug-out is better, it’s lighter in pocket, has a better blade steel, and a stronger tip.
The comparison between the two is reminiscent of the Mora Vs Premium knife Brand discussions I see online. The mora isn’t better than let’s say a Bark River Knife, but it is good enough for enthusiasts, and an excellent balance of characteristics for everyone else.
My 6 year old hollow grind bowie with a 6mm blade and AUS8 steel has yet to find a tree it can't chop or one that can break its tip.
@@D2G10 I seriously doubt that your Bowie knife has a .09” blade. And, if you don’t understand the implications and consequences of the fact that your Bowie is likely to be .180” thick, you should consider asking questions rather than making statements.
@@CuttingBoardRx My bowie blade is 6mm thick. I guess it is too hard for you to comprehend. You'd better stop being a passive aggressive bald asshole instead of making any assumptions about anything.
Hollow grind is weak when the blade stock is very thin. So stating that hollow grind is weak is nonsense to put it mildly. Correct way to say it was: This blade has thin stock so hollow grind makes it weak.
@@CuttingBoardRx .09" is 2.3mm you f*cking degen. Can't even convert 6mm to inches. My bowie blade is 6mm thick. I guess it is too hard for you to comprehend. You'd better stop being a passive aggressive bald a-hole and stop making any assumptions about anything. Hollow grind is "weak" only when the blade stock is very thin. So stating that hollow grind is weak is nonsense to put it mildly. Correct way to say it was: This blade has thin stock so hollow grind makes it weak - no tip geometry would've fixed that on a thin blade like that so you are again wrong like a mofo you are..
I tried to approve the second comment that you made so that everyone could see that intellectual pursuit and good manners aren’t your particular fortes. Unfortunately, TH-cam algorithm is still blocking it because of the language. One should practice using allegory and sarcasm instead of blunt statements supported by nothing but your childish angst. Have a joyful life rest of your life, Biff Tannen.
@@CuttingBoardRx nice try commie
I still carry my old 720 in ATS-34. Had it since the late 90s. I carry other knives but that old 720 is a favorite.
@@Biomass1 I think pretty much every Axis lock Benchmade is a candidate for a “lifetime knife” however…
The way they skip over little details like beautiful edge or smooth action out of the box is what bothers people who now expect the same sharpness and smoothness as WE or Kizer offer even at lower prices.
Speaking of reviewing orange handled folders, how about reviewing the Sage5 in Rex 121? Pretty sure you'll break the tip on that one in the tree of doom. Hell, it might even break on the spine/lock test being as hard as it is. I have a copy if you're interested in a disassembly and HRC test video. Lol ...no tree of doom though. Thanks for the video. Cheers!
That would be an expensive test hah. Spyderco is going crazy with the prices these days.
@@CBxDeathgrip I tested knives of $980 at the tree of doom. The most expensive tests to date to break were CRK Umnamzaan and Benchmade Dacian.
@@JohnDoe-zb7dz I appreciate the offer, but I’m yet to find a Spyderco knife that claims to be something it is not! However, if you’re super interested in such test, you can find my email address in the channel description.
Have you ever looked up the raw material cost of rex121??? If you haven't go check out some barons and see how crazy expensive rex121 is. The blade blank alone is like 90 bucks not including machining/grinding time plus all the 2nds and throw aways. Personally it's hard to believe they can do the LW version at 255 street price. I mean don't get me wrong they are most definitely making some money of course but not what you are thinking. Exotic steel's that aren't made in huge amounts are EXTREMELY expensive. They are also very temperamental in heat treatment and just hard to work with as a whole. Spyderco doing a full production knife in rex121 says a lot about the company and how Eric runs it. They are here for the steel nerd community and no one else is able to do what they do. Kunwu is trying to be the china version of Spyderco and I applaud them for working with PM60 and S390 and doing a pretty good job with it but what Spyderco does is really something special and I highly doubt we will see another company doing what they do any time soon.
Awesome video CBRx. Will you be doing any kind of crafts with the deer antler? Maybe sell some lanyard beads
I bet the Benchmade stropping is done on a polishing wheel.
Muy buen video gran comparacios saludos desde Mexico ya tengo las dos piezas las dos me parecen buenas
Gracias, amigo! 🙌
ive been waiting for this one. thanks for the review!
@@mileswatto6221 Thanks for subscribing!
I’ve been using mine for weeks now & have no issues. I’m happy I bought 12 of them.
There’s an expression for this: stingy-rich. I hope you enjoy this knife, and say hello to all your cousins! Ask them to subscribe to my channel!
Another highly informative video. Don't you hate it when you think you're recording but you're not? I once did a whole hour and a half interview for my radio show and realize afterwards that my machine wasn't recording.😢😅 and it wasn't the first time!
I recently started to use lapel mike and it times out after inactivity. You can guess the rest… 😆
@@CuttingBoardRx I think it was fortuitous because it made for a humorous ending of your video
Amazing video, sir!! Also, serious question, where did you get a Bugout for $110? The cheapest I could find one was $165.
@@bobbarker5884 Marine Corps Exchange
It's not anywhere close to current market MSRP. That's a simple fact. Saying "well, I bought it at the Navy PX" or "I know a benchmade rep" or "I bought it second hand" is not apples to apples.
MSRP on the full size bugout with "Grivory" handles (aka benchmade version of zytel) is appx 180.00 USD.
Most of their models of bugout actually eclipse the 200 USD mark and they even have some BM bugout models that are >300 US Dollars.
So yes, I would call 110.00 an outlier figure, sir.
Is it just me or when you find an amazing rival budget option, it just feels really good? Great video! Hope to see quiet carry video one day and the damasteel corrosion test!
Test the Omega springs, they are very weak. Mine snapped in the first few minutes of using the knife
Some had the omega springs break right out of the package upon actuation...🤣
@@johnruiz6743 that was me, in my truck in Walmart parking lot yet opened and flicked it and ran the action less than 10x and broke
Maybe y’all got fake Ozark Trails on eBay? Or from Ozarktrailknivesonline?
😆😂🤣🤣 whenever I criticize a popular knife, that’s the comment I get!
@@CuttingBoardRx LOL! Now that's funny! 🤣😂🤣😂
I got one today and for the money I'm darn impressed so far! I have had it like 10 hours but dang. It's cheap. Benchmade is definitely better. But this thing seems alright.
The bugout is $100-$120 knife. If bm made them $99 that would be huge
@@mrmouse-ol9pw Their cost is $72. They make about $9 on each one they ship to retailers. They make $108 when sell it directly minus the website and financial service fees.
INsect / bugOUT I get it ha ha you are a funny friend, my guy ;D
@@dongkhamet1351 Don’t tell anyone or folks will expect me to be funny all the time!
@@CuttingBoardRx who says you're not?!
@@dongkhamet1351 Menstral_complex
Dang this autocorrect! I meant Metal_condom
I’ve broken so many omega springs on my benchmades but never on a ganzo. Just sayin.
All the channels saying it's a Bugout killer is just silly... All this people trying to say it's equally well build or superior are flat full of crap and they are forgetting that with the Bugout they have a forever warranty, break a blade or sharpen out the blade and Benchmade will take care of you as where with the OT it's a use it till it breaks and then buy another. Plus the whole pride of ownership thing, personally I have no pride of ownership walking around with Walmart china made knife in my pocket so that in its self kills it for me. Thank you CBRX for keep it real!
BM stabs were just stab and wiggle vs OT stab and bend to break. You didn't want to break the BM.
Love your vids and also, love the Bugout. Great knife and well worth whateve someone pays for it.
@@CBxDeathgrip I have so many Bugouts, I’m thinking about mounting them all in a shadow box, like insects 🤣 great knife!
@CuttingBoardRx Would love to see that.
I wonder if benchmade will watch all these reviews comparing the two and decide to sue walmart lol
@@LostTrailX They could not. The patent on axis lock expired in 2017. At least it looks different. Have you seen Harbor Freight knock off Buck 119?
@@CuttingBoardRxnot in person but plan on buying one. Some guys on You tube said it was great 😉. For the price it seems like something I'd like to have around.
Walmart probably said "come at me bro!"
@@LostTrailX Internally, there is nothing in common between the two knives other than the slight visual resemblance and the Axis lock, whose patent expired in 2017.
Is it mil standard 500?!
@@MrCaissed MIL-DTL-20277-1 is the drawing. Thanks for subscribing!
This 10 dollar knife is giving knifetubers ptsd
Only to those whose livelihood depends on selling 150 $30-70 Chinese knives
Great video, great testing and great FINALE. "Mothaf@cka" ... LMAO
@@Double-Exposure Oh, thank goodness! Somebody watched it all the way to the end! Thanks!
You wasn't sinking the tip of the bugout into the tree, that was unfair.
@@terrybranham4536 Thanks for watching!
He has no reason to try and put out false testing I mean look at his channel. He is all about testing and seeing what the knives are capable of and he isn't making money off the sell of more Bugouts or more Ozark knives... He's showing you what happened to this knife and that knife and if you fail to believe it that's on you. Common sense alone says the Bugouts tip will be tougher because of s30v having increased toughness over D2 and not to mention that the composition of China D2 is all over the place so that could have been a good batch or a bad batch and all in between... The Bugout has a flat grind and a steel with higher toughness so it's tip stability will be better.. the test showed exactly what SHOULD have happened and what should have happened DID.
@Edcreviewer you drank the kool aid.
Good stuff as always brother 👊🏻
Seemed to me like you were more harsh with the ozark fakeout
Man, what a no-nonsense, even-handed review!
@@monkpato Thanks for watching and subscribing!
Ozark Trail released a really good knife for a bargain price. If you consider all of it's attributes, and then compare the Bugout......it's clear to me and probably most folks that the Benchmade knife is waaaay overpriced.
It’s an ok knife. Not worth $10 though. Should be $6
@CuttingBoardRx disagree. The Benchmade should not be 200 dollars. You are nitpicking a couple of dollars and ignoring the elephant in the room.
(Not trying to be mean, it was a great video and I subscribed, thanks friend)
@ $110 is what I paid for the Bug. The OT is ok for 10 bucks but it feels on par.
@@CuttingBoardRxwhat you paid for it is irrelevant. MSRP is double that.
@@rangefinderz5135 I don’t pay MSRP. If price is irrelevant, why complain about Benchmade? They are selling hundreds of thousands of knives a year to people that obviously think the price is right.
In another video the bugout broke
@@ak471911able really? Which video?
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@@CuttingBoardRx for some reason I can't link you the video
Red and blue bugout is awesome 👊
Walmart knife truly a Great Value.
If it’s your first cross bar lock, I can see why you feel that way. There are now great knives in that genre for $30-50 that are awesome.
If i knew how to edit videos mine might take longer to put out! Great video as always, keep it up 👍 🇺🇸
Did the Fakeout have the familiar smell of off gassing plastics coming from that region, which is thousands of miles from the Ozarks?
That’s funny. Lost all credibility when you set the OT to fail on the drop test lol. Like the angle and where you hit it was crazy different. And you did it right in front of a hd cam lol
I like Fake Out! That's a great name for it.
No I like your videos they're entertaining and I've learned a lot from you and knives but you favor American made knives and you can tell that how easy you are on that bug out do what you did to the Ozark trail
@@Rumple-p5n Tell this to a $575 Chris Reeve Umnamzaan and $270 Benchmade Dacian whose tips were broken in this very tree. I give American companies more crap than Chinese because I find it unacceptable for an American made knife to perform worse than foreign ones. If you question my integrity, perhaps you should try another channel?
This shows me how really overpriced Benchmade knives are. Benchmade better listen up because the next upcoming Ozark with upgraded features will be knocking the Bugout's socks off at 1/18th the price.
@@ringaleavoit’s Ozark’s 4th attempt at a crossbar lock. The first one, 2022 $6 green handle, was mildly crappy, then last Christmas they released 2 really crappy $6 black ones, and now this one, which is less crappy than the first one or almost not crappy but for 44% more. I project: Benchmade will not be dropping prices any time soon. That said, Swiss Tech is kicking their hind for 1/6 th the price 🤣 while also messing with CIVIVI too
Used to be a big a Benchmade fan. But with their highly inflated price I’ve pretty much stopped collecting them. I have actually reverted back to collecting the “Old School” slipjoint pocket knives.
@@IchibanOyabun I'm right with you
@@CuttingBoardRxwrong again. PRICE EQUIVALENCY= 3 gallons of Biden-Harris gasoline vs 67 gallons with the benchmade.
Both knives will perform 99% equivalent tasks and never fail (by the way, no one is chopping wood and stabbing tree trunks a dozen times😂). Everyday tasks = breaking down cardboard, opening tough plastic packaging, cutting strings, etc.
The question to ask is why is the benchmade costing you 20x as much? You have a great channel, but a huge blindspot
Range finder no "wrong again", CBRX was pretty spot on in his statement. Personally I have no interest in BM products because they are insultingly over priced but that doesn't mean that they don't make a quality piece and take care of the customers for the life of the knife. Personally I use my knives heavily at work and home and not just doing card board cutting down and opening boxes as do the millions of people that don't live and work in cities so cheap knives so not do 99% of what a quality knife does. Not even close actually.
I’m only a bit into the video, so you may have the same opinion or cover it later in the video but to me this isn’t going to hurt the bugout or Benchmade. Knives like this will likely hurt brands like Knafs which are “premium budget” brands. Someone who wants to buy a Benchmade is already way past a knife like this ozark trail. So that’s probably part of why the Knafs guys took such a negative stance on this knife.
@@poncho151 Knafs = Kizer + flare of flamboyance
So my pinned comment echoes yours very well!
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Yeah these type knives aren't gonna hurt popular or heritage American brands... The companies that better be watching and paying attention are companies like WE/Civivi, Kizer, QSP and all the china brands that have spent the last ten years trying to bring up public opinion of China knives and now Walmarts riding that gravy train for them.... The quality china knife brands and all the people they OEM for will be the ones that this effects bottom line wise.
U definitely went harder on the tree with the ozark than your precious bug out. Twice as hard.
The Osark beat the bugout, Thank You.
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When he stabbed the benchmade in the tree it sounded a lot softer and it didn't look like it was going as deep. Just saying
@@missyoujoel3275 Thanks for watching
its got a name its the ozark grail
You get what you pay for! 🤣
D2 at 59 hrc for $10? you got more than what you paid for
@@gueomduduto Not really...🤣 The build quality suucks...😂
@@johnruiz6743 then dont buy it
The fact that this ten dollar bottom shelf Walmart knife is being compared to a Benchmade at all says EVERYTHING one needs to know about Benchmade right now.
At least Ozark Trail does not cut guns in half...!
Keep supporting Communist China my guy.
Cecilia Square
LOL, Buddy.
Ty for not calling it a clone ... that lights my arse hairs on fire. ....... inspired by - yes , a clone - far from it.
I have to be honest bro prying on most knives left and right will brake the tip, even carbon steel blades that are thin like these would brake; so I can honestly say that this an abuse of any knife and foolish to say the least!!!!! If that last test is what justifies paying 16 times more for a bench made knife then count me out; I will take the Ozark trail knife anytime and every time!!!!!
@@paulprice-pu6mcThanks for watching, now you know what limitations your new knife has.
Dude I will give it to you you do know quite a bit about knives but on them test you're not accurate bro you were stabbing that Walmart knife in that tree a lot harder than your showing that bug out in that tree I seen how you wiggle them that Walmart night is not meant for that that is a slicer it is a Halo grind it's not meant for that and what knife is actually does that
@@Rumple-p5n BS! As in Bravo, Sir! Thanks for watching.
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Ozark Trail might be crap but Benchmade makes the most overpriced junk in the USA.
They will never get another cent from me.
I would buy 60 Ozarks before I would buy a Narrows.😐
Why buy a Benchmade when Spyderco exists.
@@JM-ct9lg Why buy Spyderco when Cold Steel exists? Why buy Cold Steel when Kershaw exists? Why buy Kershaw when Boker exists? Why buy Boker when Reate exists? Why buy Reate when Vosteed exists?
Whatever tickles your balls, that’s you buy, brother!
Not a fan of your biased fake out name. Ozark trail will do unless you want to change the other knife to Bench Made wugout and you’re torture test doesn’t mean anything because a knife is meant to cut not a pry bar. Also what you get for $10 is a slicing blade, hence the thin hollow grind.
Thanks for watching.
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@@terrybranham4536 Thanks for watching!