I agree about the emissions killing diesels. You have to consider the whole truck in the equation. A pre-emissions truck could be on the road with the same engine for 20+ years. These new trucks with emissions last half that, resulting in more manufacturing which has a carbon footprint. It’s not only about what comes out the tailpipe.
@@michaelbenz3379You’re a troll. Anyone that has ever owned an international knows they run for ever with good maintenance. There are still IDI’s on the road today not including the 7.3 power stroke which are running everywhere with hundreds of thousands of miles.
@@mikerobinson8734 Put a turbo and ARP head stud kit on the early Navistar/International and its good to go. I once drove a big U-haul with the 444 cornbinder over Wolf Creek Pass, geared down and seriously overspeeding the engine. Used the brakes (lightly) 4 times. No issues even though I was running it well over redline. You couldnt give me for free that 6.0 joke though.
Yep! That’s why I bought the 7.3 Godzilla Drove a powerstroke for 25 years. Could not spend green money on the new unreliable diesels. Too many of my friends are having issues
Agreed, unless I'm driving ANY new diesel pretty much right off the lot to a mechanic to have it fully deleted & tuned, I'm buying gas too. There's just too much BS around these choked out diesels these days.
@@hellkitty1014 I wouldn't be surprised to see them go a lot longer than that with synthetic oil & plenty of great oil & fuel additives available today.
In 96 when a 73 dropped a valve with 500km on it. Ford sent us a complete 7.3 with all wiring and turbo. Plug and play. They also took the old one back.
All manufacturers have failures to some extent. Unfortunately they are at the mercy of their suppliers and sometimes the lack of quality of the individual parts . The 6.7 has proved to be a reliable engine. Keep up the great videos.
@@B-rad303 I’m not a Cummins or Duramax fan but my statement still applies. All manufacturers have failures at some point . Had a friend that bought a Corvette and it locked up as he was leaving the Dealership. So even so called bulletproof engines fail occasionally.
Has nothing to do with vendors, and everything to do with the integrity of the manufacturer. If there is a problem with vendors, you find a new vendor, if it's a problem with bad engineering and design, you blame the vendors, but you keep selling defective vehicles? Yeah that's Capitalism.
@kathrynw3 Actually, I'm not really a Ford fan. I lie GMC's. Ram is screwed, well cummins. I have a cummins sitting in my driveway rt now. That H.O. is string and quick is all I'm saying.
If you want to get the Ford High Output Diesel, the only way to do it without losing your shirt is to get the longest extended warranty that they have, and then sell it before it runs out. I do this with all my trucks so that I never end up with a $10,000 repair bill. It’s happened to me before, but never again.
Iworked at a chevy dealership for a while. Whenever a new engine or transmission would come out, the factory wanted the first 1000 failures sent back untouched for engineering purposes. That way they can see what the root causes were and correct them.
Yup I worked at all 3 Ford, GM, and Ram and all 3 pretty much followed the same procedure. Funny how people on the internet assume that just because one Ford broke down pretty much brand new it means that all fords are unreliable lol. All 3 Ford, GM, and Ram have a lot of engine failures when they release a new engine or tranny. But where I saw the most failures and more than GM and Ford combined was Ram. Those things have so many problems
@@Justaeuropeanman I always viewed a failure as inevitable, what mattered more was how the dealer and factory handled the situation. Do they stand behind the product or not. Thats what matters most in any industry wether its cars, cell phones, or tools.
@@B-rad303I owned a Chevy that couldn't go longer than a few weeks without a new electrical problem. It truly was a nightmare, constantly chasing down bad grounds, chaffing wire harness and more. I remember at the time I said I would much rather plan on rebuilding a transmission every 100k miles than deal with one more electrical issue. I also know 2 people personally that have had over $10k repair bill for a whole new fuel system in their Fords from a failed CP4 pump. That's just personal friends, there're countless videos of CP4 failures right here on TH-cam. Again, planning on spending $1,800-$2,000 on a transmission rebuild every 100k miles or so sounds a hell of a lot better.
@@JasPlun I agree. Getting your statement supported with data is tough given the consequences if caught doing so called "deleting". I believe you are correct.
There will be more of this. Good buddy of mine is a service coordinator for multiple dealerships for these trucks and its becoming common to see the HO PSD having bearing/ crank issues. Not good things coming for HO ford owners
All Manufacturers have had failures on new vehicles, quality parts of supply is another variable common to all. The 6.7 has been extremely reliable and powerful despite all the heavy emissions. This is 1 engine… not an indicator of a common problem. The HO has new components & designs from block up… this will help identify any new issues to correct. Huge engine for a 6.7L… impressive powertrain. Impressed Ford provided a new Truck… not sure all makes takes that extra step.
I worked at new car dealer shops for decades. This happens to every brand including lexus and Honda. All the engine parts are not tested to death and assembly errors happen, though rarely. It is why you have warranty.
I had a 6.7L Powerstroke in my 2013 F250. It was a solid motor. NEVER had an issue with it. Every manufacturer makes a dud from time to time. My wife's Hyundai that was 3yr old and developed an oil consumption issue. We followed the steps from Hyundai and the dealer and in the end they replaced the motor free of charge w/o even a fight at 53K. No we didn't pay for an extended warranty or anything when we bought it.
If u have a Hyundai that they replaced the engine for free run it into the ground for certain years and models they have a special coverage where they will replace the engine regardless of mileage ownership status ect. And they will replace it more than 1 time
They have plenty of blown up engines, enough that they should already know what's wrong. This is more like they want the engine so that no one can find out what's wrong with these rotten engines outside of Ford and so that they can cover it up and destroy this engine so that there's no proof for the class action suit.
I work for ford (about 16 years now) they call a-lot our old warranty parts back. Sometimes its just to make sure you did the job and didn’t just request a part and fake a claim. Engines can be use to remanufacture and re sell. With that engine they will probably look in to what went wrong unless they already know of a common problem with them.
The tech in the video said the engine was seized, meaning you cannot bar it over. Lets hope that the failure is not a common problem. It doesn't really sound like this field failure has been assigned to anyone at the vehicle group yet. I think if it had you would see more basic troubleshooting up front. Like downloading codes or real-time snapshot data. @@youlooze2me
Cool video. But on vids like these could you please slow down your camera motion. Some details are missed and for me anyway I get a little motion sickness with the quick camera movement. Thanks for the work 👍 Merry Christmas!
Like WOW! Sir You have the most AMAZING VIDEOS, You must know someone at that dealership to get in and film that. It was just wild how they lift the entire cab right off the frame. I have to agree with You, the Chevy, GMC and Ram guys should hold back their comments, cause You never know which brand of truck will be next. Have a GREAT New Years, but most of all PLEASE stay healthy and safe out there!
Ford tech here from Utah. I had to do a long block in a 2023 HO F350 it's about 3300 miles. It was the third HO in our shop that needed an engine. Had codes for a low oil pressure, misfires, and some others. It wasn't seized, but wouldn't run for longer than like .5 seconds. Had some knocking noises. Still never really figured it what caused the failure, but hopefully Ford releases a TSB, a bulletin, or something.
This is why I appreciate that GM (and RAM) never boosted the diesel output of their trucks for 24MY unlike Ford for 23MY. GM has been behind the rivals in terms of torque for a long time now. I wonder why, but it is definitely NOT because they are bad- they are still pretty good.
Most of us appreciate your pointing out the equipment that needs to fall off. Our brand new RAM with less than 5k miles is in for a DPF related issue already. Faulty PM (particulate matter) sensor.
I have constant problems with my Cummings power street sweeper. Basically the nature of the business never let's dpf get hot enough. More lights on my dash than a Xmas tree. 6k and counting in repair.
@@matthewholzmueller6292Honest question. Why would you get a diesel street sweeper? Diesels are for heavy, long distance towing. Wouldn’t you be better served by a gas engine. They are way simpler, cheaper, and easier/cheaper to work on.
@@matthewholzmueller6292I recently sold my 2020 Ram 3500. In all the time i've had it, zero problems. No emissions, transmission, steering, electrical, or engine problems of any kind.
This was cool… that was a beautiful color on that truck man. I’d be pissed if my new $100k truck explode. I would likely take my business elsewhere. That’s just me though. If my tundra ever exploded I’d probably go buy my first ram. They’ve been catching my eye for a while now. Merry Christmas to you and that beautiful family! Continued prosperity, success and blessings to you all brougham. 🤘🏾👊🏾👍🏾 happy new years gang!
@@jimmyaber5920 😂😂 if my dog had a $100k bill I’d calmly lay it to rest. If my comment triggered you so much to bring up an animal… I’m sure this will salt the wound… but true is true. Interesting how some peoples mind work. Me talking about switching truck manufacturers because my brand new trucks motor seizes which I think is a normal reaction vs comparing it to putting an animal out its misery because they’re so damaged that the vet bill is $100k. Anyways, you enjoy that new year eh?
I worked at a Transmission shop dealing with all types of trucks. From my experience, we never seen Toyotas for anything other than maintenance. GM trucks were also rare. On Rams we only ever saw steering issues on older models, and the Dodge made transmissions were crap (easily remedied with Aisin). But the real issue was Ford. They vastly accounted for the most major failures. Whether it was engine problems, transmission problems, broken transfer cases, or electrical bugs. No other brand was nearly as bad.
I had EGR Cooler Faillure at 20,000 miles in my 2017-Transit 3.2L 5-cylinder Power Stroke Diesel. Van runs like a Beast after Emissions have been removed!!! Ford replaced the short block at no cost, lost the van for 2-months tho
As a master tech for 38 years, I just retired that engine has a eight second delay for oil to run through the engine. There is something that Ford needs to do with that delay.
I can`t believe the intake ports are so small, of course forced induction mitigates that, however same power level at lower boost increases engine life.
I'd love to know what happened with the engine if Ford lets the dealer know. 500/1200 on a production road-going V8 diesel is on the upper end, I do worry with longevity and reliability. I don't blame the owner for lemoning this one out. The Carfax on this one will be haunted. Its just a little disconcerting that the owner paid an additional $12K+ for this option and its gone already. Hopefully it is an isolated issue. Anything mass-produced like a Powerstroke V8 will alwaya have outliers.
It's a new version of the 6.7 which has been proven over the years to be a dependable, strong, and long lasting engine. Ford will asked for the engine back so they can identify the problem and get a jump on fixing it.
I'm a powerstroke fan but I'll tell you I had 2 -2013 ,and 2015 powerstroke 6.7 for my construction business and those 2 truck last me one year but the 1999 and 2001 they are still running strong so I will never buy a new truck 7.3 it's the best
Still driving my 2001 7.3 powerstroke with 112,000 miles. This engine had new pistons (.030 over) and 2 sleeves at 65k miles in 2005. Repaired at Ford dealer under warranty. Since then replaced one injector (2005, the cause of the broken piston) and 2023 a fuel pressure sensor. Even Fords best diesel could have problems. 6.0 and 6.4 Ford diesels were money pits is the 6.7 more of the same?
2002 7.3 diesel here, 221,000 miles to date. Regular Shell Rotella for most changes, but have used Delo 400 and Castrol as well. Has a 2 micron bypass system on it, even the oil coming out is clean compared to the normal soot filled black shit that comes from diesels.
Dealerships have done too much damage doing routine maintenance on my 3500. I do all my oil filter changes, transmission changes, and lift pump filter changes, rear end fluid changes. Simply maintenance is my responsibility.
I feel bad for the guy that ever has to replace that cp4 injection pump. Ram recalled my 3500 for a cp3 swap. The access to that pump is so wildly different. With the Ford you can't really work on anything yourself.
This is so sad. I have a 97 Tacoma w 155k miles that’s been on the road for 26 years and has never missed a beat. V6, manual trans, 4X4 that gets 14MPG. Cost me $5k many years ago.
That's not how Ford operates. The turbo and wiring harness didn't fail. The engine did. Now if they find metal shavings in the oil lines and in the turbo, that's a different story.
That's crazy; The engine went, Ford is replacing it under warranty, and taking the old engien for a mechanical inspection. PLUS the owner got to choose a new truck instead of this one with a new engine. Im in a Ram, but thats crazy customer service.
Some of the comments on here..lol. I know it doesn't fit your guys' narrative, but everybody's product breaks. Work in manufacturing a while and you'll learn that. Toyota unquestionably has the best handle on reliability at the moment, but all the American stuff is on a pretty level playing field.
Toyota has outstanding reliability but they can have similar teething problems. The new Tundra's turbos is one example. Vehicles are complex machines with thousands of individual parts things will and do go wrong even for a company like Toyota.
We know ford has a good history and one reason why I like them and admitting their mistake and fixing the issue. Not to say that Chevy or Ram wouldn't but I have always had a good experience with Ford when the situation is not so good.
Virtually every time I’m behind a Ford truck I switch my air to recirculate since it’s probably been deleted and the fumes are terrible. DEF and emissions standards may have their drawbacks but at least they result in better air for us to breath.
I have a 2019 F-550 with the 6.7L. It has 48K miles and runs strong. It has an 11' utility bed/crane/hydraulic/lighting package. Is this the 6.7L in this video?
I can't speak for Ford, but I worked for Chrysler for many years and the couple times that there were situations like this, the vehicles would get a new engine and be sold as used like any other trade in.
Leave the emissions alone. There's no reason this should have failed. This new power plant should have had thousands of miles of r&d in and out of a truck.
I don't understand why pull the cab have replaced short block on many of these and did you perform advanced cost cap to replace long block as I do not see tear down to point of failure ,ware is your new turbo and charge air cooler ,and pipes ,
I am actually glad there are emissions on trucks. I am a diesel technician and I remember working in the shop before dpf and scr and if you had to run a truck for 2 minutes everyone would be cursing you out because there eye's would be burning. Maintence cost is still a very small portion of the overall cost in the transportation industry. The biggest cost is fuel that is why lots of fleets like the thought of going electric but that will probably take another decade for mass adoption.
Ha! Nothing like the old 2 stroke Detroits! They would suck the oxygen out your lungs, burn the back of your throat so hard, you had a second mouth in the back of your neck in 2 minutes flat! I SEEN IT😅
I agree with shame on the government, for horrible emissions policy not a single manufacturer has emissions figured out. Possibly the whole thing is flawed from the ground up. This extra expense and lack of reliably falls on the shoulders of the owner/operator. However if Cummings was messing around with numbers and got caught, shame on them. They gambled the expense to update the combustion chamber was higher then the fine. I hope they made a wise decision .
All I can see about engineering goes new hights.... I feel sorry for the mechanics who work in dealerships.... because in my shop I can refuse to work on them ... 😅😂
I stopped at the shop I used to take my powerstroke to yesterday. He was completely full! Then I try to find a place that specializes on mu cummins. It's non existent. It's obvious why, because there isn't a market for it.
As a mechanic I can say this is happening with Ford and Chevy and in the half ton trucks as well. I had a spun bearing two weeks ago on a 2023 Silverado 1500 and have done quite a few transmissions. People are waaay overpaying for these vehicles and they're absolute garbage
All manufacturers have to follow the same emissions standards. They spend millions per year on r and d to get to these. Cummins cheated the system and got caught now they gotta pay the price for not developing engines that can meet those standards. The rest did it the right way.
These things happen. That being said I would want a brand new truck too. The last thing I want is my brand new truck to have been completely disassembled by a dealer mechanic. No offense I'm sure you're a good mechanic but there are bad mechanics out there :-)
I had a FORD 7.3 Powerstroke I'll never buy another one, it was under warranty, 5-6 sensors went out, and they only covered the ones inside the engine WTF, my cost was $1200
Just like anything else, there will be failures. It's what the company does when you have one that makes the difference. There seems to be less and less support for failures and maybe not for trucks like this one, but appliances and other big ticket items where you get the run-around or they send out someone who isn't really qualified due to location etc. Even Tesla, where service centers are few and far between, and they end up with your vehicle for months waiting on parts. So backing up what you sell means a lot. It is a big reason I won't buy a German car. BTW, I am a Chevy guy and won't dis a Ford for having an issue as they all have issues at some point. It may be worth noting that at 80-100k for a truck, keeping one under warranty just might be worth it, as I have been known to keep them too long and then when buying new again, the bite out of my wallet is hard to take.
Normal things happen, however Ford has quality control issues big time Jim Farley CEO has acknowledged this yet it hasn’t improved if anything it’s gotten worse
Thanks for making these videos, it's really disappointing that Ford just keeps make such poor vehicles I feel like they just create problems . four days labor times 150.00 is what it will cost to fix this truck when it is one day out of warranty. ?????
I agree about the emissions killing diesels. You have to consider the whole truck in the equation. A pre-emissions truck could be on the road with the same engine for 20+ years. These new trucks with emissions last half that, resulting in more manufacturing which has a carbon footprint. It’s not only about what comes out the tailpipe.
New wrinkle I’m some smooth brains. Quit thinking smartly!
ford diesels sucked before emissions
@@michaelbenz3379You’re a troll. Anyone that has ever owned an international knows they run for ever with good maintenance.
There are still IDI’s on the road today not including the 7.3 power stroke which are running everywhere with hundreds of thousands of miles.
@@mikerobinson87341997 F-350 7.3 still on the road here.
@@mikerobinson8734 Put a turbo and ARP head stud kit on the early Navistar/International and its good to go.
I once drove a big U-haul with the 444 cornbinder over Wolf Creek Pass, geared down and seriously overspeeding the engine. Used the brakes (lightly) 4 times. No issues even though I was running it well over redline. You couldnt give me for free that 6.0 joke though.
Good stuff.. let the dealership know we appreciate them letting you do this so we can see this information...
This guy's about to be fired
Yep! That’s why I bought the 7.3 Godzilla Drove a powerstroke for 25 years. Could not spend green money on the new unreliable diesels. Too many of my friends are having issues
Same here.
Agreed, unless I'm driving ANY new diesel pretty much right off the lot to a mechanic to have it fully deleted & tuned, I'm buying gas too. There's just too much BS around these choked out diesels these days.
Yup, that's why I bought the PSD, because all my friends who have 7.3's lost motors to the cam/lifter problem.....
7.3 is the way to go if you aren't really towing 14K+ often. I've seen them with 150K miles on the clock still running strong.
@@hellkitty1014 I wouldn't be surprised to see them go a lot longer than that with synthetic oil & plenty of great oil & fuel additives available today.
In 96 when a 73 dropped a valve with 500km on it. Ford sent us a complete 7.3 with all wiring and turbo. Plug and play. They also took the old one back.
All manufacturers have failures to some extent. Unfortunately they are at the mercy of their suppliers and sometimes the lack of quality of the individual parts . The 6.7 has proved to be a reliable engine. Keep up the great videos.
Yep, friend has two in the co. With 300k stock other than thirty fives rows daily.
I bet if this was a Duramax you'd be saying they suck, they're trash etc...
@@B-rad303
I’m not a Cummins or Duramax fan but my statement still applies. All manufacturers have failures at some point . Had a friend that bought a Corvette and it locked up as he was leaving the Dealership. So even so called bulletproof engines fail occasionally.
Has nothing to do with vendors, and everything to do with the integrity of the manufacturer. If there is a problem with vendors, you find a new vendor, if it's a problem with bad engineering and design, you blame the vendors, but you keep selling defective vehicles? Yeah that's Capitalism.
I sold my 2013 F250 w/ 6.7 Powerstroke. I had no real need for it anymore. But if I was needing a diesel pickup, Ford would be at the top of my list.
All vehicles have issues. The H.O. 6.7 is a beast.
LOL If i had that thing apart this far it would be getting a CUMMINS.
Spoken like a fanboy. Too bad Ford doesn't have the same respect for it's customers.
@kathrynw3 Actually, I'm not really a Ford fan. I lie GMC's. Ram is screwed, well cummins. I have a cummins sitting in my driveway rt now. That H.O. is string and quick is all I'm saying.
I am on my third truck with a 6.7 PSD since 2011. So far never had a problem with any of them.
Unlike you I can afford a truck more often.@@Nnonyabiz
If you want to get the Ford High Output Diesel, the only way to do it without losing your shirt is to get the longest extended warranty that they have, and then sell it before it runs out. I do this with all my trucks so that I never end up with a $10,000 repair bill. It’s happened to me before, but never again.
Thanks for being brave enough to say it. That stuff is ruining these trucks I wish suits and ties did not run this country
Liberalism is a mental disorder. The EPA has killed the auto industry
Iworked at a chevy dealership for a while. Whenever a new engine or transmission would come out, the factory wanted the first 1000 failures sent back untouched for engineering purposes. That way they can see what the root causes were and correct them.
Yup I worked at all 3 Ford, GM, and Ram and all 3 pretty much followed the same procedure. Funny how people on the internet assume that just because one Ford broke down pretty much brand new it means that all fords are unreliable lol. All 3 Ford, GM, and Ram have a lot of engine failures when they release a new engine or tranny. But where I saw the most failures and more than GM and Ford combined was Ram. Those things have so many problems
@@Justaeuropeanman I always viewed a failure as inevitable, what mattered more was how the dealer and factory handled the situation. Do they stand behind the product or not. Thats what matters most in any industry wether its cars, cell phones, or tools.
@@curtisroberts9137Or the dealer makes outrageous claims that they add a 200k, 300k and I've even seen 1M miles powertrain warranty. 😮
That's why I love my 2000 5.9 Cummins Ram 2500. 342,000 miles! Bump this new crap.
Me too. 2000. 2500 5.9 cummins. 247k. I get offers quite often as its beautiful. No thanks. Dont want one of the new diesels. And 100k. LOL
All you guys and your "who's got the most mileage shit" who cares! Rams are shit the transmission are made at the toy r us factory
@@B-rad303 Is that what "someone" told you. Obviously you're clueless
@@B-rad303I regular do a transmission then pulling the damn cab off a ford
@@B-rad303I owned a Chevy that couldn't go longer than a few weeks without a new electrical problem. It truly was a nightmare, constantly chasing down bad grounds, chaffing wire harness and more. I remember at the time I said I would much rather plan on rebuilding a transmission every 100k miles than deal with one more electrical issue.
I also know 2 people personally that have had over $10k repair bill for a whole new fuel system in their Fords from a failed CP4 pump. That's just personal friends, there're countless videos of CP4 failures right here on TH-cam.
Again, planning on spending $1,800-$2,000 on a transmission rebuild every 100k miles or so sounds a hell of a lot better.
Nice that the dealer let you walk around the truck in the shop - thanks for posting 🍻
Would be interesting to see the failure rate of deleted (non-tuned) trucks.
It has to be tuned to be deleted….
Let me clarify and say engines that have not had performance increasing tunes beyond that of factory hp/torque specs.
Deleted trucks rarely fail they run like diesels of old. Can't speak for Ford, but Ram Cummins without the emission crap runs so good!
@@JasPlun I agree. Getting your statement supported with data is tough given the consequences if caught doing so called "deleting". I believe you are correct.
Zero problems with my 2017 F250 6.7. 90k miles.
There will be more of this. Good buddy of mine is a service coordinator for multiple dealerships for these trucks and its becoming common to see the HO PSD having bearing/ crank issues. Not good things coming for HO ford owners
All Manufacturers have had failures on new vehicles, quality parts of supply is another variable common to all. The 6.7 has been extremely reliable and powerful despite all the heavy emissions. This is 1 engine… not an indicator of a common problem.
The HO has new components & designs from block up… this will help identify any new issues to correct.
Huge engine for a 6.7L… impressive powertrain.
Impressed Ford provided a new Truck… not sure all makes takes that extra step.
I worked at new car dealer shops for decades. This happens to every brand including lexus and Honda. All the engine parts are not tested to death and assembly errors happen, though rarely. It is why you have warranty.
So you actually know for sure with factory data engines are not tested..show the data
I had a 6.7L Powerstroke in my 2013 F250. It was a solid motor. NEVER had an issue with it. Every manufacturer makes a dud from time to time. My wife's Hyundai that was 3yr old and developed an oil consumption issue. We followed the steps from Hyundai and the dealer and in the end they replaced the motor free of charge w/o even a fight at 53K. No we didn't pay for an extended warranty or anything when we bought it.
If u have a Hyundai that they replaced the engine for free run it into the ground for certain years and models they have a special coverage where they will replace the engine regardless of mileage ownership status ect. And they will replace it more than 1 time
That’s why I’m going to wait a couple of years before I buy one make sure Ford gets all the kinks out of the H.O.
The epa wanted all that extra compliance. Every time a diesel fails, epa should have to pay for a replacement.
Credit to Ford that they want the engine back to determine what went wrong and is buying this one back from the owner.
They have plenty of blown up engines, enough that they should already know what's wrong. This is more like they want the engine so that no one can find out what's wrong with these rotten engines outside of Ford and so that they can cover it up and destroy this engine so that there's no proof for the class action suit.
He was a Guinea pig for Ford, they should pay HIM to drive it.
I work for ford (about 16 years now) they call a-lot our old warranty parts back. Sometimes its just to make sure you did the job and didn’t just request a part and fake a claim. Engines can be use to remanufacture and re sell. With that engine they will probably look in to what went wrong unless they already know of a common problem with them.
I mean, they did circle the inherent problem right on their emblems..
The tech in the video said the engine was seized, meaning you cannot bar it over. Lets hope that the failure is not a common problem. It doesn't really sound like this field failure has been assigned to anyone at the vehicle group yet. I think if it had you would see more basic troubleshooting up front. Like downloading codes or real-time snapshot data. @@youlooze2me
Cool video. But on vids like these could you please slow down your camera motion. Some details are missed and for me anyway I get a little motion sickness with the quick camera movement.
Thanks for the work 👍
Merry Christmas!
Yes. Slow down
The same could be said about his speech. Slow TF down.
Like WOW! Sir You have the most AMAZING VIDEOS, You must know someone at that dealership to get in and film that. It was just wild how they lift the entire cab right off the frame. I have to agree with You, the Chevy, GMC and Ram guys should hold back their comments, cause You never know which brand of truck will be next. Have a GREAT New Years, but most of all PLEASE stay healthy and safe out there!
Ford tech here from Utah. I had to do a long block in a 2023 HO F350 it's about 3300 miles. It was the third HO in our shop that needed an engine. Had codes for a low oil pressure, misfires, and some others. It wasn't seized, but wouldn't run for longer than like .5 seconds. Had some knocking noises. Still never really figured it what caused the failure, but hopefully Ford releases a TSB, a bulletin, or something.
This is why I appreciate that GM (and RAM) never boosted the diesel output of their trucks for 24MY unlike Ford for 23MY. GM has been behind the rivals in terms of torque for a long time now. I wonder why, but it is definitely NOT because they are bad- they are still pretty good.
Most of us appreciate your pointing out the equipment that needs to fall off. Our brand new RAM with less than 5k miles is in for a DPF related issue already. Faulty PM (particulate matter) sensor.
Better than a seizure 😉
I have constant problems with my Cummings power street sweeper. Basically the nature of the business never let's dpf get hot enough. More lights on my dash than a Xmas tree. 6k and counting in repair.
@@matthewholzmueller6292Honest question. Why would you get a diesel street sweeper? Diesels are for heavy, long distance towing. Wouldn’t you be better served by a gas engine. They are way simpler, cheaper, and easier/cheaper to work on.
@@matthewholzmueller6292I recently sold my 2020 Ram 3500. In all the time i've had it, zero problems. No emissions, transmission, steering, electrical, or engine problems of any kind.
Just wait for the Emissions recall. Sell it now!
This was cool… that was a beautiful color on that truck man. I’d be pissed if my new $100k truck explode. I would likely take my business elsewhere. That’s just me though. If my tundra ever exploded I’d probably go buy my first ram. They’ve been catching my eye for a while now. Merry Christmas to you and that beautiful family! Continued prosperity, success and blessings to you all brougham. 🤘🏾👊🏾👍🏾 happy new years gang!
I hope you don't get a dog and have it ever get sick.
I don't see a blown up motor.😅 It's all together
@@jimmyaber5920 😂😂 if my dog had a $100k bill I’d calmly lay it to rest. If my comment triggered you so much to bring up an animal… I’m sure this will salt the wound… but true is true. Interesting how some peoples mind work. Me talking about switching truck manufacturers because my brand new trucks motor seizes which I think is a normal reaction vs comparing it to putting an animal out its misery because they’re so damaged that the vet bill is $100k. Anyways, you enjoy that new year eh?
I worked at a Transmission shop dealing with all types of trucks. From my experience, we never seen Toyotas for anything other than maintenance. GM trucks were also rare. On Rams we only ever saw steering issues on older models, and the Dodge made transmissions were crap (easily remedied with Aisin). But the real issue was Ford. They vastly accounted for the most major failures. Whether it was engine problems, transmission problems, broken transfer cases, or electrical bugs. No other brand was nearly as bad.
Likely.I would not think twice about it.good job ford .
I had EGR Cooler Faillure at 20,000 miles in my 2017-Transit 3.2L 5-cylinder Power Stroke Diesel. Van runs like a Beast after Emissions have been removed!!! Ford replaced the short block at no cost, lost the van for 2-months tho
I’ve got a 2011 ram 2500 H.O. Still as strong as new. Been deleted and tuned since 20k miles or so.
Yet my 21 6.7L PSD has been flawless for 68k miles. My buddy has a 2012 6.7L with 350K miles and only issue has been broken exhaust manifold bolts.
The good thing is at least the bolts won't be all rusty to this will be a straight forward job.
This was a really cool video JB...thanks...agree, do more of these! (And yes, my 2017 RAM Big Horn Hemi V8 with 90K miles has had zero problems, Lol)
Engineering to new heights. Quality and longevity to new lows.
As a master tech for 38 years, I just retired that engine has a eight second delay for oil to run through the engine. There is something that Ford needs to do with that delay.
Yeah, scrap the backwards built turbo eating piece of junk. The whole engine is a stupid design.
I can`t believe the intake ports are so small, of course forced induction mitigates that, however same power level at lower boost increases engine life.
JB, enjoy all your content. Please, get a good wireless mic setup. Merry Christmas - Happy New Year 🎉
I'd love to know what happened with the engine if Ford lets the dealer know. 500/1200 on a production road-going V8 diesel is on the upper end, I do worry with longevity and reliability.
I don't blame the owner for lemoning this one out. The Carfax on this one will be haunted. Its just a little disconcerting that the owner paid an additional $12K+ for this option and its gone already. Hopefully it is an isolated issue. Anything mass-produced like a Powerstroke V8 will alwaya have outliers.
The HO is a $2,500 option over the standard PSD.
@@johnpeters9793 Apologies, I meant as an option overall over the standard gas V8.
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No worries..
It's a new version of the 6.7 which has been proven over the years to be a dependable, strong, and long lasting engine. Ford will asked for the engine back so they can identify the problem and get a jump on fixing it.
I would buy that truck for ten cents on the dollar.......and put a Cummins in it. Strip all the emissions and the EPA can suck on a certain something.
I'm a powerstroke fan but I'll tell you I had 2 -2013 ,and 2015 powerstroke 6.7 for my construction business and those 2 truck last me one year but the 1999 and 2001 they are still running strong so I will never buy a new truck 7.3 it's the best
My experience working on Fords was similar. Though the 7.3 and 6.7 were the only ones that were reliable. Everything between was garbage.
Still driving my 2001 7.3 powerstroke with 112,000 miles. This engine had new pistons (.030 over) and 2 sleeves at 65k miles in 2005. Repaired at Ford dealer under warranty. Since then replaced one injector (2005, the cause of the broken piston) and 2023 a fuel pressure sensor. Even Fords best diesel could have problems. 6.0 and 6.4 Ford diesels were money pits is the 6.7 more of the same?
2002 7.3 diesel here, 221,000 miles to date. Regular Shell Rotella for most changes, but have used Delo 400 and Castrol as well. Has a 2 micron bypass system on it, even the oil coming out is clean compared to the normal soot filled black shit that comes from diesels.
Nice!@@tedgerstenslager2949
Dude - thanks for showing this. Great info. Also, Merry Christmas! Thanks for the videos!
My buddy just deleted his and got a tune. OMG.
Dealerships have done too much damage doing routine maintenance on my 3500. I do all my oil filter changes, transmission changes, and lift pump filter changes, rear end fluid changes. Simply maintenance is my responsibility.
How do you get into Ford to film? They just let you in? Pretty cool!
New engine sitting there with the intake holes open spells trouble. Always duct tape till the intake goes on. That lost 10 mm socket.
Wise move, it’s cheap insurance.
@@zachscott4867 Did lots of short blocks in Aerostar vans.
Great point..been there done that years ago. Last time I ever made that mistake.
@@fredhinck9685 Those suck and the Astro isnt any better.
@@zachscott4867 44 years in the trade, red seal ticket in 1971. Kinda to the beach and back.
Replacing cp4 on this is 15 hours job more or less
Stop giving money to other countries. Good point.
Great content as always JB. Merry Christmas to you and fam.
"Engineering has gone to new heights." "I would take all that emission crap off."
Very cool look at the inner workings.
The inner workings of 💩
Ok billy bob@@Billybob50119
I feel bad for the guy that ever has to replace that cp4 injection pump. Ram recalled my 3500 for a cp3 swap. The access to that pump is so wildly different. With the Ford you can't really work on anything yourself.
This is so sad. I have a 97 Tacoma w 155k miles that’s been on the road for 26 years and has never missed a beat. V6, manual trans, 4X4 that gets 14MPG. Cost me $5k many years ago.
Did he say the block is compressed graphite and iron? Like a brick? Did they machine out a brick?
I agree with u JB!
Should have come complete with turbo and complete wiring harness.
That's not how Ford operates. The turbo and wiring harness didn't fail. The engine did.
Now if they find metal shavings in the oil lines and in the turbo, that's a different story.
That's crazy; The engine went, Ford is replacing it under warranty, and taking the old engien for a mechanical inspection. PLUS the owner got to choose a new truck instead of this one with a new engine. Im in a Ram, but thats crazy customer service.
Don't you even think it was that easy.
Nice video of Cab off walk around. 👍
Some of the comments on here..lol. I know it doesn't fit your guys' narrative, but everybody's product breaks. Work in manufacturing a while and you'll learn that. Toyota unquestionably has the best handle on reliability at the moment, but all the American stuff is on a pretty level playing field.
Toyota has outstanding reliability but they can have similar teething problems. The new Tundra's turbos is one example. Vehicles are complex machines with thousands of individual parts things will and do go wrong even for a company like Toyota.
@@khakiswag
People have such short memories...the gen II Tundra launch embarrassed the company per a toyota executive....
My 39 and 47 year old Fords to Toyota.....hold my beer. I havent seen a Toyota of that vintage for decades.
We know ford has a good history and one reason why I like them and admitting their mistake and fixing the issue. Not to say that Chevy or Ram wouldn't but I have always had a good experience with Ford when the situation is not so good.
Virtually every time I’m behind a Ford truck I switch my air to recirculate since it’s probably been deleted and the fumes are terrible. DEF and emissions standards may have their drawbacks but at least they result in better air for us to breath.
Why it the heck would you not keep it on recirc. Fresh air my ass. ok karen
that transmission look insanely huge lol. makes my 2004 nissan altima look like a toy😂
Your 2004 Altima is still running strong….this is a brand new vehicle with a catastrophic failure; I would choose your Altima over this truck.
Can you find more information about it ?
My new f250 2023 already have a low oil check engine light on
Well they have pretty much made it impossible to delete a 23' at this point I'm sure it can be done BIG MONEY
There’s a video going around some already deleted one and it’s coming soon yes 23
51 years in automotive repair says....anything one man (or a factory) can do, another man can un do.
4 issues with 2024 f250 with 7.3 only 2200 mikes on maybe they would buy mine back
I have a 2019 F-550 with the 6.7L. It has 48K miles and runs strong. It has an 11' utility bed/crane/hydraulic/lighting package. Is this the 6.7L in this video?
What happens to this truck after the engine is replaced? Is it now going to be sold as a used truck?
Yup, Ford did the same thing back in the day when the 6.0 debuted and every other one of them was blowing up too.
I can't speak for Ford, but I worked for Chrysler for many years and the couple times that there were situations like this, the vehicles would get a new engine and be sold as used like any other trade in.
it will be on the front row next week. New owner won't have a clue
@@scrappy7571 Unless he looks at a Carfax, that is if its reported.
Yep sold probably through a manufacturing auction... 😱😱
I have over a half a million miles on my 7.3. I’m clicking off roughly 18-19 miles too the gallon of fuel. Same motor same injectors.
Do you have a video on your favorite truck and engine ? Thanks!
WE LIVE IN A REPUBLIC
NOT a democracy.
Of china
Will you do a video on Chevy and gmcs cab welds breaking open on all there new trucks please lol
There was a recall on that.
Leave the emissions alone. There's no reason this should have failed. This new power plant should have had thousands of miles of r&d in and out of a truck.
I don't understand why pull the cab have replaced short block on many of these and did you perform advanced cost cap to replace long block as I do not see tear down to point of failure ,ware is your new turbo and charge air cooler ,and pipes ,
I am actually glad there are emissions on trucks. I am a diesel technician and I remember working in the shop before dpf and scr and if you had to run a truck for 2 minutes everyone would be cursing you out because there eye's would be burning. Maintence cost is still a very small portion of the overall cost in the transportation industry. The biggest cost is fuel that is why lots of fleets like the thought of going electric but that will probably take another decade for mass adoption.
yea nice try but its clear you dont know what fleet costs are like.
I love the smell of my 2002 7.3 turbodiesel in the morning.
@@BadWolf762✔️💯💯👌🏻👍🏻💨 YES...Me too! 7.3 ftw!
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Ha! Nothing like the old 2 stroke Detroits! They would suck the oxygen out your lungs, burn the back of your throat so hard, you had a second mouth in the back of your neck in 2 minutes flat! I SEEN IT😅
Look up the oil pump system on that engine. If that's not enough to make you shop somewhere and something else, I don't know what will.
did ford keep the modular bellhousing with the 6.7?
Another utuber did a vid on the oil system on these needing to pump 2qts before the valvetrain gets oil.
I have a 2016 6.7 stock
219k miles.
For ford to give a motor free and to get the old one back to see what’s going on. Says a lot
I am hearing from sources saying CP4 is garbage…could be contributing factor🤷🏽♂️….Aloha🤙🏽
I agree with shame on the government, for horrible emissions policy not a single manufacturer has emissions figured out. Possibly the whole thing is flawed from the ground up. This extra expense and lack of reliably falls on the shoulders of the owner/operator.
However if Cummings was messing around with numbers and got caught, shame on them. They gambled the expense to update the combustion chamber was higher then the fine. I hope they made a wise decision .
Defund the EPA.
you know if something has gone horribly wrong in the system when the trucks of 40 years ago or more reliable than a brand new one.
All I can see about engineering goes new hights.... I feel sorry for the mechanics who work in dealerships.... because in my shop I can refuse to work on them ... 😅😂
Dude that truck is brand new
Don't think I'll be buying a diesel.
Rams have inline 6's. A lot easier to maintain.
Buy a Ram ... With a Cummins Diesel... They have almost 30% less parts... Oh less to go wrong or failure.. But a brand new 2023... Lol😂😂
@gt
It’s
Just dodge ram is a shipping crate for Cummins turbo diesel
If cummins can't figure out there emissions stuff by now then they don't deserve to play the game. It's not going away no matter who is elected.
My 21 cummins works great. Had one small issue with def but that was covered under recall. Problem is the ram 2500 payload sucks.
Can't figure it out 🤣
Permanently defund the EPA
I stopped at the shop I used to take my powerstroke to yesterday. He was completely full! Then I try to find a place that specializes on mu cummins. It's non existent. It's obvious why, because there isn't a market for it.
As a mechanic I can say this is happening with Ford and Chevy and in the half ton trucks as well. I had a spun bearing two weeks ago on a 2023 Silverado 1500 and have done quite a few transmissions. People are waaay overpaying for these vehicles and they're absolute garbage
All manufacturers have to follow the same emissions standards. They spend millions per year on r and d to get to these. Cummins cheated the system and got caught now they gotta pay the price for not developing engines that can meet those standards. The rest did it the right way.
These things happen. That being said I would want a brand new truck too. The last thing I want is my brand new truck to have been completely disassembled by a dealer mechanic. No offense I'm sure you're a good mechanic but there are bad mechanics out there :-)
Still driving my trusty 7.3 diesel with 302.436 miles on her
If it seized was probably because it wasnt getting enough oil?
ford quality #1
Hopefully built on a Friday.
I had a FORD 7.3 Powerstroke I'll never buy another one, it was under warranty, 5-6 sensors went out, and they only covered the ones inside the engine WTF, my cost was $1200
I mean the engine is making alot of horse power and torque. There are definitely going to be failures.
In 2500miles??? Bull.
I think u ment that’s an oil pump gear on the front of the engine. Thats an oil reservoir in the valley I believe.
The valley on my Ford truck is an oil reservoir. Lol...
Typical,seriously.
Ford dealerships are FULL of these blown engine trucks
Used to see that everyday at KTP
Just like anything else, there will be failures. It's what the company does when you have one that makes the difference. There seems to be less and less support for failures and maybe not for trucks like this one, but appliances and other big ticket items where you get the run-around or they send out someone who isn't really qualified due to location etc. Even Tesla, where service centers are few and far between, and they end up with your vehicle for months waiting on parts. So backing up what you sell means a lot. It is a big reason I won't buy a German car. BTW, I am a Chevy guy and won't dis a Ford for having an issue as they all have issues at some point. It may be worth noting that at 80-100k for a truck, keeping one under warranty just might be worth it, as I have been known to keep them too long and then when buying new again, the bite out of my wallet is hard to take.
Normal things happen, however Ford has quality control issues big time Jim Farley CEO has acknowledged this yet it hasn’t improved if anything it’s gotten worse
Thanks for making these videos, it's really disappointing that Ford just keeps make such poor vehicles I feel like they just create problems . four days labor times 150.00 is what it will cost to fix this truck when it is one day out of warranty. ?????
Merry Christmas Brother!