This has nothing to do with standing down bozo. These are seats in city municipality. What exactly are your barking at? Erdogan still had a solid 4 years before elections. Just zip that trap already.
as if turkey is in a monarcy. what the actual fuck are you talking about ? for 24 years he is in power with democracy aka elections. he has massively more power in contrast to a normal democracy BUT that was also decided by the people of turkey. don't comment on something you know nothing about.
@@simpledude5974Local elections show how much support you still have. If Erdogan lost this much even through he got %35 like the general elections, he isn't popular, he was just better than Kılıçdaroğlu.
Economy, refugees, broken justice system. This happened even late. He should thank to Kilicdaroglu about his presidency,who is also hardly supported by even CHP voters, otherwise he would already lost president election against mayor of Istanbul or Ankara.
cok carlama gene kaybedeceksiniz. Hala bu salak kafadan bir kurtulamadiiniz. Sonra hayal kirikliginiz cok kotu olur. Beklentini minimal tutmazsan hayat cok zor gecer. Unutma kaderin ustunde kader vardir.
@@tkaraburk ben çoktan yurtdışına yerleşip kendimi kurtardım zaten sen kendi vasat hayatını düşün. Ben kimseyi senin gibi takım tutar gibi desteklemem. Chp kötüyse o gitsin başkası gelsin. Hangisi daha iyi hayat şartları sunacaksa o gelsin. Kaderin üstündeki kadere başlatma şimdi ezbere papağan gibi konuşma. Biraz sorgula kafanı kullan. Beyin bedava yani. Ilımlı yaklaşayım diyorum sonra senin gibi tipler çıkınca yine tepem atıyor. Neyse ağla ağla açılırsın. 😄
That Kilicdaroglu guy is a disgrace to the opposition of Turkey, repeateadly unsuccessful politician who seized the moment of oppositional unity to put his candidacy again to maybe achieve smth finally. Guy gambled his nation's future because of stubborness.
as a turk i agree. him being the candidate was a terrible idea when all of rural turkey views him as the antichrist lol. we could've easily won if Yavas was the candidate
As a social Democrat of 🇹🇷 I can not underline how much I despise Kılıçdaroğlu. His ego, his incapacity to read the Turkish voter, his taking advantage of the earthquake to announce his candidacy, his gaslighting authoritarian gimmicks acting as a Democrat alternative and then sidelining in party opposition and ousting journalist just for questioning his decisions. His last minute anti immigrant - anti kurd U-turn. That guy has taken my teenage years from me.
Erdogans success is partly due to Kılıçdaroğlu being incompetent. He should have been taken down years ago. But this also highlights an issues within the Kemalists and CHP mindset for not being able to bring reform within its own party.
As a Turk, I can say that you explained very well of the context. All of the informations actually true and your comments also, especially about Kılıçdaroğlu.
@@Al13NHACK3R Kılıçdaroğlu was the main opposition party leader. He lost all of the elections against Erdogan (nearly 12 elections). After huge lost (May 28, 2023) the main opposition party changed its leader. In fact, no one calls Erdoğan "Kılıçdaroğlu". But since Kılıçdaroğlu has lost all the elections against Erdoğan, some opponents call him Erdoğan's man.
Erdogan is often seen as another authoritarian in the West, almost like Putin. Perhaps that is because he has been around as long, but also because he keeps winning against the odds. We get the hint that elections are unfair, perhaps due to media bias. So it is reassuring that the opposition can win. They aren't excluded or thrown in jail as Putin does.
@@aqwsderxz If you don't live in Turkey, don't speak about war with Kurdish rebels. Also they are not Kurdish rebels, they are terrorist organization called PKK.
Id wait till Erdogan steps down before i say that@bbatuhan11 as a Greek I hope that we can form better relations and erdogan is an issue for us 🇬🇷 ❤🇹🇷
@@fre34387 no! Erdogan came to Greece 6 years ago and said we needed to give them part of our country and then threatened war . He's the worst for us since Korukturk
I am a Turk of Kurdish origin. I say this with pride, because Turk means all of us, our common roof, our home. The most beautiful definition was given by the Great ATATÜRK: "The people of Turkiye who founded the Republic of Turkiye are called the Turkish nation." That is the end of the matter for me! May my blood and life be sacrificed to the great Turkish Nation. Happy to be a Turk!
I am a Turkmen origin Kurdish Alevi from Tunceli/Dersim and I love Atatürk very much too. Because Ataturk was never a racist. However, what he said was always misinterpreted. Ataturk did not use the word "Turkish" to describe a race. In those years, the words Turkmen/Turkoman or Oğuz, Yörük, Kızılbaş were used for Turk race. Ataturk used the word Turkish as a concept of citizenship. Turkish means equal; Turkomen, Kurdoman, Zaza, Circassian, Laz, Macır, Pomak, Assyrian, Greek, Armenian, Jewish, Arab, Nusayri etc. It included all races living in Turkey. Just like the word American. And Atatürk was not aware of the Dersim Massacre that started in the last months of 1938. In 1937, he had a written order saying "Nothing should be done that would harm civilians." Will Atatürk, a peaceful leader who treated even the occupying Australian, New Zealand and Greek soldiers with respect, order the massacre of his beloved Alevis of Turkmen origin from Dersim? Only people with malicious intentions believe this.
As a Turk, I can say that it was a surprise. Due to the election result last year, I completely lost my hope for the country. It is nice to see seculars are on the top.
😂bro by secular do u mean western puppet, Türkiye is trying to become a regional power who isn’t dependent on the west, it has to play two sides because it’s surrounded by Russia and other Islamic countries, turkeys location is very important and useful and cud def make Türkiye a important regional to global power, connecting Europe to Asia but it can’t do that if it’s a western puppet
@@moharshad6882 Meanwhile the "non puppet", the proud and "independent" just imports Europe's trash for money 😂 th-cam.com/video/hw6KR2vj_bc/w-d-xo.html
"Seculars are on top" Erdogan literally won his reelection bid for the third time in a row with the most votes he has ever gotten and with everything going against him.
@@cugeltheclever3766 im not muslim and muslims in country doesnt like islamists too like iran and azerbeycan. What islamists do for benefit of country they only use religion to steal from people and then they r claiming to get oppressed.
You missed another important point in regards to Erdogan's loss in the recent election; The trade with Israel, and YRP's rise related to this matter. YRP pulled a lot of votes from Erdogan.
As a Türk teenager I am so happy about this and I am really hopeful for my country againg. Next 3 or 4 years might be tough for us but after that everything‘s gonna be great I really believe that.
Almost 10 minutes and probably the best video to summarize the state of Turkiye at the moment. We have more hopes! I believe that Turkiye has potential to become a much better democratic nation than the west itself. It is because of its location and harmonization between west and east! We should start playing our 'BRIDGE' role and not make war cries over neighboring nations such as Greece, Syria, Iraq, Isreal and so on... We should also stop playing 2 sided in many cases (Russia and Ukraine). We should start playing our bridge role with a strong democracy. I believe, we have wisdom, experience, and maturity to reach this level! Fingers crossed!
Too many leaders around the world have been in power too long. There needs to be term limits and change to mitigate the damage left by bad policies. Too many bad short-term policies for selfish interests leaves long-term damage for future generations to struggle through
Using religion as a shield can only go for so long. It can work as long as people are employed and working. But when people's pocket become empty the religion card doesn't work.
He made that church into mosque with future elections in mind. He portrayed himself as savior of Islamic world using Israel as target and trying to make people afraid of left liberals before elections. Very standard tactics applied by right wingers all around the world to please the majority and win votes by portraying a strong man persona.
Because Erdoğan is playing with the nationalist and religious feelings of the people. Those in big cities like Istanbul and Ankara understand, but the nationalist-Islamic Turks in Anatolia do not understand. People also know that the economy is bad. They say, "We were hungry, but we were not left without a father." Erdoğan has big investments in the military because there is no lie.
@@efeahmet44tamamen aslı olmayan bir yorum BEN TÜRKUM belediye seçimlerinde chp belediyeleri alabilir ama CUMHURBASKANI olarak adla chp ye oy vermeyiz TÜRKIYEYİ chp ye bırakmayız .YAŞASIN ERDOĞAN.
@@vatanci-w8q chp ve chp nin cb adayı kazanacak şimdiden hazırlan bence :) önceki seçimde kılıçdaroğlu yüzünden kaybettik ama artık o hataya da düşmeyeceğiz
@@user-zw6zc3pd9m There is no democracy when you remove a mayor who got 55% and you appoint the mayor from Erdogan's party who received 27%. Does this say "democracy" in your country?
Great video! Just a tip, Ş is pronounced like Sh so it's "Yavash", Ç is like Ch (you got this one right) and you can just ignore Ğ as a silent letter (like you do with Erdoğan).
Don’t worry before erdogan your money was useless. I hate erdogan , they say 1/3 of the food supply Israel is coming from Turkey. Even though I’m against him. He built something for tourism. He changed the nationalism of the people so they don’t behave like national animals. . the newpresident comes with the Secular way so cult against Islam. I hope that you will be again for cigarettes near the borders.
@@syafiqzailanEXACTLY! My big brother got arrested in a lifetime JUST BECAUSE he has criticized Erdoğan. HE HASN'T EVEN SAID ANYTHING OFFENSIVE ABOUT ERDOĞAN
Honestly guys, if you do research do it properly. The main reason for the lira devaluation is the QE program, the financing of government spending by the central bank. MONEY PRINTING. As long as a government finances it self via the central bank you can hike interest rates, there will be lass and less impact, as the money supply grows not via loans, but rather by the printing press. No one really expected falling inflation, as long as there is no balanced budget.
There's a whole myriad of problems troubling the Turkish economy. Just about all of them can be traced to poor policymaking and we can thank AKP and it's voters for that. From government handouts basically made into policy to widespread corruption all the way up to interest rates, QE and overall poor financial decisions. Any real growth was/is in spite of Erdoğan and AKP. Turkey was lucky to have sound parameters for success, somewhat dampening the devastation caused by the obvious. Both long term and short term prospects have been/are being squandered at best and irreparably destroyed at worst. All to basically fill the pockets of one dinosaur and his cronies. But who can blame them when people willingly hand it to you because you mentioned God and can put up a good show.
Running with Kilicdaroglu was the biggest mistake. Complaining about one-man rule and still ignoring democracy to determine CHP candidate and pushing a dinasour was insecere.
Not sure about that. Bare in mind that many of those who voted for CHP in this election are AKP-voters who just "loaned" their vote. The problem with CHP in the general and presidential elections is that they have to rely on the HDP and other parties, which the traditional voters are to afraid of.
@@habbomanish But they really don't need to ally with HDP. HDP's independent vote will catapult the election two a second round. And even if the CHP does nothing whatsoever to gain their vote, the voterbase of the HDP will always vote for the CHP over AKP in the second round.
@@habbomanish Hdp is failing and no one needs them. Both erdogan and opposition had their support before and both fail miserably, crushing majority of the kurds vote strategicly and do not always heed their call as this election shows
Good news for Turkey. Let's hope that the Turks will accomplish their democracy war. Turkey is a crucial country for NATO. Turkey should stay in line with democracy to ensure the security of NATO in the ongoing situation in the Middle East and the Russian occupation of Ukraine. Gladly we're friends 🇺🇸🇹🇷
Siz amerikalılar bilmelisinizki pkk yanlısı politikanızdan vazgeçmediğiniz sürece türkiyeden destek beklemeyin. Natonun kurallarına uyun. nato üyesi bir ülkenin toprak bütünlüğünü tehdit eden bir örgütü desteklemeyi bırakın. Sadece türkiye sorumluymuş gibi davranmayı bırakın. Ancak bu şekilde birbirimizi anlarsak müttefik olabiliriz.
What next? For the next 4 years probably not much, but it does brighten things a little bit for those that had lost almost all hope. Also C is a J sound in Turkish. Pronounced Jeh Heh Peh. Imamoglu and Kilicdoroglu also don't have hard G sounds in them.
Pointing out the hard G mistake is fair but he does not need to pronounce CHP like that lol. That'd just kinda unneccesarily confusing when the letters are onscreen and this is made for an English speaking audience.
Out of curiosity, are there any Turks who want to get rid of Ğ as a letter? Since it only functions as a vowel lengthener in modern Turkish, and has lost its original sound of gh/French r
@@johanfurtado6887 No, it is not completely silence our just a lengthener. For example my name would be pronounced completely different if that letter was removed.
The -oglu ending in Turkish names (e.g. Kilicdaroglu) is pronounced with a soft G, you barely even hear it. It's pronounced somewhat similar to an H. When you use so many names ending in -oglu it gets quite confusing
Very confused tbh. I've always thought a soft G is basically a J sound, like in cage, but you're saying it sounds like an H? Is it more guttural, like the ch in Loch?
Main problem of the Turkish politics is that the any party that rules over 2-3 terms, somehow becames the state-party and loses its connection from the ordinary citizens' everyday strugles and starts to act like they are the state itself. Inönü's CHP, Menderes' DP, Özal's ANAP and now Erdoğan's AKP. This pattern exist in Turkish politics regarldess of party and leaders political background.
Main problem is systemical Ataturk did not put any systemical railguards for governmental work,dictatoship and powering noncentral governmental structures. But all of these was because of necesities of that time. 1 because the country was new and it needed an authoratic central regime to put new changes fast and efficiently ,2 social democracy was a new concept so nobody knew how to integrate it properly. This wouldnt caused problem if Turkey stopped worshipping Ataturk and started to upgrade its political and governmental system over time but instead we tried to keep status quo so country needs to have authocratic power to move further or system will just collapse. But authocratic powers tend to corrupt really fast so it is a never ending cycle we will experience until the system changes properly.
@@exosproudmamabear558 İnönü's status quo and his party-state after Atatürk is understandable considering that happened during ww2, but the people I mentioned above that came power after him, really be able to came to power because they all critisized İnönü's party-state policies. But eventually they all ended up doing the same thing. Not only their political concept changed, but their values and ideas also changed. Özal for example started as liberal, he proposed to move away from unitary state to more multicultural one and changing country's name to Anatolia insted of Turkey, but when you look at his later term policies he was planning to invade and re-take Mosul for his Great Turkish State.. Erdoğan is also same, he is now, especially after the coup attempt, safe-guarding Atatürk's founding principles, even the secularism which he critisized a lot during his early career. No one would believe that if you told this 10 years ago but here we are now. Türkiye's imperial legacy and its foundation principles eventually funnels its govering mechanism to more authocratic side. A unitary nation state surrounded by its former subjects while majority of its public are extremely patriotic and culturally conservative. I believe this makes ruling parties to act according to nations founding priniples, since they become to see themselves the state itself after some time. We would probably continue this cycle for a long time, I think after Erdoğan we would get in a transition period like in the 90's after Özal. Then it will follow up with our new early liberal-later authotratic leader..
@@yahuniye What a beautiful way to summarise it. I wouldnt be able to say this myself. Solution is indeed more nuanced and should be slow to implement or maybe it doesnt even exist because of the foundation of the country afterall. But I realised most governments who want to do a change have too idealistic ideas when they come into power in my opinion. Slight nudges to the right path would be much better. Trying to change a thing too fast would cause resistency and bouyancy. But this aproach although may work in some countries who have stabile enviroments ,Turkey's dynamic political enviroments due to geopolitical place may cause a huge problem to implement it. Especially when big powers jumble things up in middle east and causing a rift between the continents. It is really difficult to make small but constant changes in the right direction when you need to act quickly to solve a immidiate problems from outside of your country. Afterall you can control your country with a good system but controlling outside factors are pretty difficult.
Your grandfather were never secular plus argon secular itself 1/3 of the food supply Israel is coming from Turkey. Before Eragon, you were begging behind the borders of other countries for cigarettes, remember those times. I hate him. He built something for tourism, but people are so disgusting nationalist disgusting, righteous people even though he’s evil he is too good for people like you..
I think it is also worth mentioning that the Turks outside Turkey cannot vote in local elections and that also had an impact on the result as they are predominantly pro-Erdogan. Anyways, so happy for my country❤
Overall, pretty good summary. Still, like many other summaries, it neglects multiple (and possibly) critical points. The dynamics of local and parliamentary elections in Turkey are quite distinct. While voters may refrain from going to the ballot at local elections due to various reasons (such as a corrupt mayoral candidate), they certainly don't miss the parliamentary or presidential elections. In this case, local elections do not accurately provide a forecast for the next presidential or parliamentary elections. On the other hand, I believe you should've analyzed the voter turnout. A significant portion of the opposition's mayoral candidates won despite receiving less number of votes, but having a higher percentage of the votes. This was due to the lower than usual voter turnout. It seems that the ruling party's supporters chose to protest/punish the party for poor performance in the recent years along with quite idiotic selection of candidates (some of whom are known to be corrupt, ties with criminal organizations etc.). You may ask why choose local elections to protest the ruling party. I believe the answer is quite simple: it's less risky for those who usually vote for the ruling party. The stakes are always higher in presidential or parliamentary elections. Meanwhile, if a clearheaded and diligent candidate, who is a member of the opposition, becomes the mayor, it may still benefit the ruling party's supporters.
This was very interesting, especially the united opposition part that also included countries like Hungary 🇭🇺 and India 🇮🇳 with one of them being Turkey's 🇹🇷 best friend and the other being one of its worst enemies. I was having dinner 🍽 while watching this, and I laughed so hard at that point that I nearly choked on the food!
The left audio feed in my headphones was ringing for some reason. I tested it on over videos and audio outside of TH-cam. Just thought I'd mention it. Great coverage as always!
@@skp8748 a higher % of expats living abroad voted for Erdoğan than people living in Turkey, 59.2% expats voted for Erdoğan compared to 52% in Turkey voted for him, this is a factor not seen in local elections
Can anyone explain me how he was re-elected after the catastrophic infrastructural failure of the earthquake especially when people have access to the internet and can see how other countries like Japan build their cities?
He was elected because the 6-party opposition bloc couldn't create confidence in the eyes of the voters. The leaders of these parties contradicted each other and the voters thought "Woe to the country if these novices take the helm". In short, voters elected Erdoğan again just out of desperation, for the lack of a reasonable alternative.
Erdogan himself created this personality cult that implies his absolution of any kind of wrongdoing. As a person who experienced this earthquake in a province that worst hit, his supporters often said that main opposition blockaded the acts of infrastructural renewal of the city, which, i must say, is the truth but opposition has its rightful reasons as well, so erdogan couldnt do much legally. They also claim in response to accusations of delayed arrival of disaster response units and relief volunteers with lines like "disaster area is huuuuge, so how can he be everywhere at the same time." The last reason why he re-elected, especially in disaster-hit areas, is the most brain fart one. People in those areas said that, with underlying reason of fear of abondenment, he is the only one that can build our homes and cities again so we should vote for him blabla.
Oh, also, the most commonly used saying in favor of erdogan is that his opposition, especially kilicdaroglu, is working in cooperation with kurdish hdp-dem party, who has some sort of ties with terrorist organisation pkk so this reason came before anything else in eyes of most of the conservative turkish and kurdish voter.
Arabic people, tourist or immigrant are more valuable for akp government, turkish people feel forgotten. They want to make turkey more conservative as saudi but we dont have oil, so economy sucks, akp government declining.
If Turkey wants to progress as a nation from all points of view, than it needs to put SCIENCE , human rights and freedom of speech BEFORE islam. That is not going to happen with Erdogan at the top.
TURKIYE 23 senedir ilerliyor ELHAMDULİLLAH 80 sene yerinde saydi .YURKIYE RECEP TAYYİP ERFOĞANLA GÜÇLÜ TÜRKIYE oldu. Ayrica ISLAM demek özgürluk insan hakları ADALET demek tabi MÜSLUMAN değilsen nerden bileceksin.İSLAM HUZUR DEMEK.
great analysis of the situation. The only thing I'd add to this would be the rise of the ultra Islamist party which contributed to the splititng of Erdogan's votes, and they actually managed to get 2 conservative provinces
Yes, CHP is getting stronger. CHP stands for secular Turkey. In other words, it is the kind of Türkiye that Europe does not like. Because Europeans who pay the government and use Turkey as a refugee depot will not like this. We know that they love Erdoğan even though they accuse him of being a dictator or a conservative. How nice, we both looked bad in the eyes of the European people and it was in their interests. As far as I understand, they will now be punished for manipulating the civilian population. There is democracy in my country and this surprised some people. You have no idea how Erdogan came to power. You have no idea what you support in Turkey. military coups, purchased foundations, economic assassinations. Yes, we do it all, right? You are so hypocritical. . You've always had an easier time buying secular things. I hope it won't be that easy this time.
Building codes were up to date even in the time of earthquake. The problems were: 1-) AKP had a zoning amnesty (they had called it a "peacefire" in both 2018 general and 2019 local elections) and that amnesty meant a lot of old, crumbling buildings didn't got demolished.. You can get what happened in 2023. 2-) As far as i know, the situation in the earthquake zones are far from ideal. Most still live in tents and containers with high fees and they are also being taken away as "the houses are finished" (they aren't, the newspapers go from barely %1 to %33 of them being done).
Mustafa kemal ataturk never banned headscarves his wife wore won but the opposition in Turkiye is a party that have a record of taking peoples freedom.
I just don't see how a fractured opposition could win better than a united even though they would be ideologically very different. There is no way Fidesz in Hungary or AKP in Turkey can be ousted without a unified opposition. They are just too big compared to any other party. In Hungary they also lack a conservative but more pro-european party like most center-right parties in other countries. Same thing in India, INC knows it can't beat the BJP alone anymore. They were in power for decades and people remember that, either youn need to unify with other opposition parties, or you need a completely new big tent party.
Take the example of a Coalition of parties A-B-C If a voter despises party C but usually Votes for A then there is a chance he doesn't vote for the ABC coalition at all. However if they run separetely and then that doesn't happen and they still have the option for form a coalition afterwards.
INC ruled India for 60 years [1950-1998, 2004-2014] & they followed $hitty socialist policies... of course, the public will vote for BJP(Modi) who is more business-friendly & pro-capitalism. If INC hadn't been forced to liberalize the economy by the IMF in 1991, they would have used socialist policies even now & India wouldn't have been able to grow forever. The IMF forcing INC to open the country's economy was one of the best things that happened to the Indian economy...
In politics 2 + 2 is not always 4. People often vote and follow a dynamic, high momentum leader. Coalitions like these complicate things so much, they often lose momentum and give the public a messy image. Making the already ruling "strong leader" look more stable.
@@fly463 ya that can be a reason too but the last tenure of their government was actually good economically. The major reason why they don't win is because 1.Modi is heavily popular. 2. Rahul Gandhi (main opposition leader) is a dynastic politician who has had no experience in politics before. 3.Their appeasement politics for the muslim community votes. 4. Rampant corruption in their last tenure. 5. Although this may not be very important but as you mentioned it's true INC party has a very big past baggage so people don't like them.
@@durontooprotiroddho8316 no he wasn’t, he literally founded the country. If he wanted he could declare himself as sultan or the new king. He said system will be democracy when half of the citizens didn’t even know what elections mean
Great video, I feel like you missed 1 thing though. CHP has not gained so much popularity since 2019, rather them winning is a product of votes splitting between AKP, MHP, and YRP, especially in the rural areas you highlighted. Keep up the good work!
We Turks hate Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu (KK). We tried to insist to CHP not to make him a candidate, but the earthquake of February 6, 2023 happened at the time when the protests were about to start. After the local elections, everyone hated KK even more because we saw once again that if it wasn't for him, there was a clear possibility that Erdoğan would leave.
As a Turkish teenager, I am pleased with the result. I hope that in 2028 the opposition will completely win. We will not leave the principles of Atatürk and democracy.
An ignorant and unnecessary comment. No one has gone to the other world and come back. Moreover, it is also doubtful whether there is another world. The issue of religion and faith is an individual issue. What is true is that the affairs of religion and state proceed separately.@@s_shaleh
he never did that... you should hear that muslims hated him for not helping Palestine enough... that's just the state of muslims right now, no agreeing with anything, can't resist etc.
They made huge cheats in the abroad elections. I have seen the statistics,it was abysmal in many countries counted votes were higher than the voter number which is impossible if you didnt add extra votes.
Kilicdaroglu has lost more than 10 elections. NO ONE wanted him to be the candidate, not even the majority of CHP supporters. They didn't announce the candidate until the very last minute, everyone was hoping that they were going to either put Imamoglu or Yavas as the candidate, and then Kilicdaroglu put himself forward, and refused to change. Even the second biggest opposition party left the coalition because of that, they did so many independent polls that all showed Kilicdaroglu was the weakest candidate in the country, much below other candidates, even below mayors. But he refused to step down. In the end, the iyi party agreed to come back to the table on the condition that kilicdaroglu make Imamoglu and Yavas his advisors. But it was too late, even though there are/were millions of former AKP voters who wanted to have a change, there was no way on earth they would ever vote for Kilicdaroglu, he is like the antichrist to them. So they voted for Erdogan again. After the defeat, Kilicdaroglu outright refused that this was a defeat, and he paraded around like he had accomplished a lot. Boasting that he had got 47% of the votes, and how this was a major victory (he had never had this many votes before in his life). Everyone said he should resign but he has no shame so he refused. It wasn't until CHP themselves kicked him out that he finally stepped aside. And the new guy who replaced him is pretty much the same person, just in a different body. CHP will never learn. They will lose the next general election as well.
@@piuvpiuv When the people protested against Kılıçdaroğlu to resign online, Özgür Özel made a tweet ordering his followers to "Expose (dox) those accounts, because most of them will turn out to be AKP trolls". Ozel and Kilicdaroglu are just like Erdogan. Instead of the slightest of self criticism, they label anyone and everyone who criticises them as AKP trolls, threaten to "expose" (dox) them, and have absolutely no desire for any accountability for their actions. Most nationalists, most conservatives, most leftists, and secularists would rather vote for Yavas or Imamoglu than to either of Kilicdaroglu or Ozel. We saw the evidence of this in the last election. CHP will repeat the same mistake again, because they are not a party that learns from their mistakes. They are a corrupted organisation, with a top-down rotting structure.
@@piuvpiuv I agree, but I think especially after Imamoğlu's landslide in Istanbul and his amazing victory speech, he may be put as the next candidate for 2028. as someone from Izmir, we all generally like him, MUCH better than Kılıçdaroğlu, who couldn't even win in the time of it being the perfect opportunity to to crush Erdoğan. Atatürk would be ashamed of what our country has turned into.
I was very angry with Kılıçdaroğlu because he insisted on being a candidate. But now, for some reason, I'm glad it happened this way. Because the opposition would not have been able to fix the economy in sufficient time, and this would have given the Islamists a reason to blame the bad state of the economy on the opposition and give them another endless period. Erdoğan is currently in a political impasse. The bad economy works against him.
I feel like there's e need for pt. 2 about how this contests with the upcoming elections in European countries. I'm personally wondering about polish local and presidential races
They both working for Erdogan. Polls was showing that CHP to win , if they declared the candidate as Imamoglu or Yavas. Opposition party wanted to lose in 2023. They do deals at the backyard.
@@hasinabegum1038 Parliament and presidency were decided last year. This year was just mayors and local councillors, the results here are going to have very little impact at the national level.
The percentages don't tell the whole story. CHP gained control of 35 cities, predominantly urban areas, while AKP now holds 24 cities, mostly rural areas. Therefore, the opposition now controls most of Turkey's economy.
❤❤❤ ATATURK. WHAT A GREAT LEADER ❤❤❤ Ataturk never committed an Alevi massacre. Even Ataturk's father was Alevi-Bektashi! Atatürk loved the Alevi people very much. "Diyanet Foundation", on the other hand, was Sunnitized after 1950, that is, after the Adnan Menderes government. The purpose of establishing Diyanet Foundation was to prevent bigotry, bigoted communities and sects. This was the purpose when it was founded in 1924 and until 1938. In the constitutional article defining the Diyanet, it is stated that the aim of the Diyanet is to provide equal service to all faiths and religions. In Article 136 of the Constitution, "The Presidency of Religious Affairs, which is within the general administration, fulfills the duties specified in its special law, in line with the principle of secularism, by remaining outside all political views and thoughts and aiming at national solidarity and integration." provision is included. (1924)
Don't forget, thats the same Guy that changed the political system from parliamentary to presidential, because it suited him better. Someone that just throws the board after loosing and re-arrenges the pieces on it to his liking can't really "loose" .
Nah, he implied he next one, general elections. He can try an early election, he can legally be a candidate if he does that, tho i don't think he will do that after the results of this local elections.
Good 3 reasons U guys gave why Erdoğan and his AKP really underperformed this time. There are probably even more reasons we can mention here why the current government with Erdoğan managed to piss off a lot of people to the level where they actually lost the popular vote, a lot of scandals has been coming out since June 2023. I can go as far as to say that people with close friendship to Erdoğan that has been involved in various scandals made it enough for the voters to not vote for the AKP this time. For instance, if I say the name "Mehmet Büyükekşi", he probably made everyone fed up by the AKP government, various other governing bodies and their friends in general. But the fact regarding Kılıçdaroğlu is probably the most true one. Yavaş and İmamoğlu would have probably done it better than Kılıçdaroğlu, especially Mansur Yavaş. But not only them... Even profiles from the smaller parties or other CHP mayors in the former Anti-Erdoğa coalition would have done it better than Kılıçdaroğlu. The CHP mayors of Bolu, Adana and Mersin would have done it better than Kılıçdaroğlu. Oktay Vural, a highly ranked member of the Good Party's administrative board would have done it better Kılıçdaroğlu. Even Cemal Enginyurt who since 2022 has gained a lot of media attention from the even smaller Democratic Party would have done it better than Kılıçdaroğlu!
Hello from 🇹🇷Türkiye gave women the right to vote before many European countries. For example, France gave this right to its women 12 years after the Turks. The grandfather of most Americans today owned a slave. Black people couldn't even go to college 60 years ago. Trying to give democracy lessons to us makes you look ridiculous. Thank you.
I guess that since then some countries progressed and some took backwards steps. Turkish pride makes then not only look funny, but it's the main reason that their country is the way it is now.
Before many European countries isn't saying much The US, UK, Finland, Russia, Germany Australia did it before you. It's not like you led that movement, but followed it. Good for you guys But only in the 1930. Beforehand, during the first world war, "Turkey" committed a genocide against Armenians, killing 1.5 million. You still barely have black people in Turkey. And, it's the worst mannered country in all of Eurasia
Antalya, Adana, Bursa, Denizli, Izmir, Mersin are the other major cities which CHP also won the race, specially Bursa and Denizli are governed by AKP for so long.
his first victory was with %34 in 2002 and last week; he got %35 (also, he wasn't the one competing but his low-profile candidate murat was) his majority of voters wanted to give him a message by not voting at all to remind him there was a reason they gave him %50+ just 7 months ago, even with same bad economic conditions
I cant stand politicians who refuse to step down despite clearly doing a terrible job.
Dont bring the whole country down just because you're stubborn.
This has nothing to do with standing down bozo. These are seats in city municipality.
What exactly are your barking at? Erdogan still had a solid 4 years before elections.
Just zip that trap already.
as if turkey is in a monarcy. what the actual fuck are you talking about ? for 24 years he is in power with democracy aka elections. he has massively more power in contrast to a normal democracy BUT that was also decided by the people of turkey. don't comment on something you know nothing about.
@@simpledude5974Local elections show how much support you still have. If Erdogan lost this much even through he got %35 like the general elections, he isn't popular, he was just better than Kılıçdaroğlu.
Let's go ErDOG!
Same problem in the states. It’s a global issue🤦🙄politicians don’t help anyone except for a few
Economy, refugees, broken justice system. This happened even late. He should thank to Kilicdaroglu about his presidency,who is also hardly supported by even CHP voters, otherwise he would already lost president election against mayor of Istanbul or Ankara.
A flawless interpretation👏
cok carlama gene kaybedeceksiniz. Hala bu salak kafadan bir kurtulamadiiniz. Sonra hayal kirikliginiz cok kotu olur. Beklentini minimal tutmazsan hayat cok zor gecer. Unutma kaderin ustunde kader vardir.
@@tkaraburk ben çoktan yurtdışına yerleşip kendimi kurtardım zaten sen kendi vasat hayatını düşün. Ben kimseyi senin gibi takım tutar gibi desteklemem. Chp kötüyse o gitsin başkası gelsin. Hangisi daha iyi hayat şartları sunacaksa o gelsin. Kaderin üstündeki kadere başlatma şimdi ezbere papağan gibi konuşma. Biraz sorgula kafanı kullan. Beyin bedava yani. Ilımlı yaklaşayım diyorum sonra senin gibi tipler çıkınca yine tepem atıyor.
Neyse ağla ağla açılırsın. 😄
Hayir erdogani niye destekliyorsunuz anlamiyorumki@@tkaraburk
@@zayrex1769Sahibini takip eden koyunlar işte, bunlardan da fazla bir akıl ve mantık beklememek lazım nede olsa düşünmeden hareket ediyorlar
That Kilicdaroglu guy is a disgrace to the opposition of Turkey, repeateadly unsuccessful politician who seized the moment of oppositional unity to put his candidacy again to maybe achieve smth finally. Guy gambled his nation's future because of stubborness.
as a turk i agree. him being the candidate was a terrible idea when all of rural turkey views him as the antichrist lol. we could've easily won if Yavas was the candidate
Can't underline how much I hate the guy
Allah belasını versin
Leblebi
@@testnameplsignore6916 Annenin deliğine girsin o leblebi (ama golf deliği)
As a social Democrat of 🇹🇷 I can not underline how much I despise Kılıçdaroğlu. His ego, his incapacity to read the Turkish voter, his taking advantage of the earthquake to announce his candidacy, his gaslighting authoritarian gimmicks acting as a Democrat alternative and then sidelining in party opposition and ousting journalist just for questioning his decisions. His last minute anti immigrant - anti kurd U-turn. That guy has taken my teenage years from me.
Erdogans success is partly due to Kılıçdaroğlu being incompetent. He should have been taken down years ago. But this also highlights an issues within the Kemalists and CHP mindset for not being able to bring reform within its own party.
Facts he's a fascist and makes erdogan look like a Liberal saint
@@wexqlp3863Kilicdaroglu is a manchurian candidate. He doesn’t want to win which helps make it seem like the country’s elections are not rigged
@@wexqlp3863 bruh there isn't any kemalists left in chp kemal kılıçdaroğlu destroyed that party
Anti-immigrant stance is a good thing actually, almost everyone in Turkey is against refugees
As a Turk, I can say that you explained very well of the context. All of the informations actually true and your comments also, especially about Kılıçdaroğlu.
According to who ?
@@Al13NHACK3R Kılıçdaroğlu was the main opposition party leader. He lost all of the elections against Erdogan (nearly 12 elections). After huge lost (May 28, 2023) the main opposition party changed its leader. In fact, no one calls Erdoğan "Kılıçdaroğlu". But since Kılıçdaroğlu has lost all the elections against Erdoğan, some opponents call him Erdoğan's man.
Erdogan is often seen as another authoritarian in the West, almost like Putin. Perhaps that is because he has been around as long, but also because he keeps winning against the odds. We get the hint that elections are unfair, perhaps due to media bias.
So it is reassuring that the opposition can win. They aren't excluded or thrown in jail as Putin does.
@muhammetfatihtopcu8470 becuase he doesn't want to spend 500 billion euros on a war with kurdish rebels
@@aqwsderxz If you don't live in Turkey, don't speak about war with Kurdish rebels. Also they are not Kurdish rebels, they are terrorist organization called PKK.
this is erdogans karma for playing 2 sides and not fixing the problems of his nations
if you try to sit in two chairs you end up falling on the floor
@@cosmosyn2514then you create your own
Yep
He thinks he can play two sides
like India and other such countries
which 2 sides?
@@gabrielbatistuta3859 islamic and seculer sides
I am happy that my country still has some democracy🇹🇷
Isn't that just naive? Nothing changed in 2019 either
Id wait till Erdogan steps down before i say that@bbatuhan11 as a Greek I hope that we can form better relations and erdogan is an issue for us 🇬🇷 ❤🇹🇷
@@yiannisroubos8846no erdogan is not a issue for you guys. Turks generaly issue for you.
Unpopular opinion: Turkey has a better democracy than Israel
@@fre34387 no! Erdogan came to Greece 6 years ago and said we needed to give them part of our country and then threatened war . He's the worst for us since Korukturk
If you're not a Turk, I should say a "bravo" for your work. Accurate analysis. And it seems you're a hard-worker.
harbiden en temiz yorumu yapan yabancı kanal, genelde yabancılar türkiyeyi anlayamaz
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAH butun videolar gpt script. Doğru düzgün hiçbir haber niteliği yok abi yapmayın allah aşkına
Adının hakkini veriyor işte. TLDR çok uzun okumadım haber tam olarak. O kalitesizlik ve sığlıkta
@@testnameplsignore6916 Bu seçimlerle ilgili daha kaliteli yorum/analiz yapmış bir yabancı kanal bildir, yararlanalım.
They're clearly British lol but yeah good job
as a Turk, I can safely say that this is a well-informed, accurate, and impartial analysis.
I am a Turk of Kurdish origin. I say this with pride, because Turk means all of us, our common roof, our home. The most beautiful definition was given by the Great ATATÜRK: "The people of Turkiye who founded the Republic of Turkiye are called the Turkish nation." That is the end of the matter for me! May my blood and life be sacrificed to the great Turkish Nation. Happy to be a Turk!
I am a Turkmen origin Kurdish Alevi from Tunceli/Dersim and I love Atatürk very much too. Because Ataturk was never a racist. However, what he said was always misinterpreted.
Ataturk did not use the word "Turkish" to describe a race. In those years, the words Turkmen/Turkoman or Oğuz, Yörük, Kızılbaş were used for Turk race.
Ataturk used the word Turkish as a concept of citizenship.
Turkish means equal; Turkomen, Kurdoman, Zaza, Circassian, Laz, Macır, Pomak, Assyrian, Greek, Armenian, Jewish, Arab, Nusayri etc. It included all races living in Turkey. Just like the word American.
And Atatürk was not aware of the Dersim Massacre that started in the last months of 1938.
In 1937, he had a written order saying "Nothing should be done that would harm civilians."
Will Atatürk, a peaceful leader who treated even the occupying Australian, New Zealand and Greek soldiers with respect, order the massacre of his beloved Alevis of Turkmen origin from Dersim?
Only people with malicious intentions believe this.
@@jmdi2703ataturk was never a racist? Hahaha. Funny, his remarks about Arabs, Armenians, is very good?
@@exposedclickbaitaRblx shut up dog
@@exposedclickbaitaRblx they are not humans so ataturk cant be racist for killing animals
I believe the Turks call your kind devşirme
As a Turk, I can say that it was a surprise. Due to the election result last year, I completely lost my hope for the country. It is nice to see seculars are on the top.
😂bro by secular do u mean western puppet, Türkiye is trying to become a regional power who isn’t dependent on the west, it has to play two sides because it’s surrounded by Russia and other Islamic countries, turkeys location is very important and useful and cud def make Türkiye a important regional to global power, connecting Europe to Asia but it can’t do that if it’s a western puppet
@@moharshad6882 Meanwhile the "non puppet", the proud and "independent" just imports Europe's trash for money 😂
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Akplilerin yüzde 60 i laik eskiden bu yüzde 80 idi çünkü oyları düştü
But you are muslims, right? Why support secular?
"Seculars are on top"
Erdogan literally won his reelection bid for the third time in a row with the most votes he has ever gotten and with everything going against him.
Atatürk yes! Islamism no!
This has nothing to do with that 😂😂
@@shafsteryellow erdoğan talks about sharia so yeah its about that
@@ozan7427erdogan does not support sharia
@@ozan7427why do guys not like islamism aren't you like a 90 percent muslim country?
@@cugeltheclever3766 im not muslim and muslims in country doesnt like islamists too like iran and azerbeycan. What islamists do for benefit of country they only use religion to steal from people and then they r claiming to get oppressed.
You missed another important point in regards to Erdogan's loss in the recent election;
The trade with Israel, and YRP's rise related to this matter.
YRP pulled a lot of votes from Erdogan.
As a turkish woman, I couldn't be happier🇹🇷❤
Erdogan has Putin's Support, Its impossible to remove him from power.
As a non-turkish man, I am happy too.
As a non-Turkish Cisgender panda bear, I'm unhappy
@@Blitzkers99 There are no hopeless situations. There are hopeless people. I have never lost hope.
-Atatürk.
@@ada-ada-- Damn right. Long live Secular Republic of Turkey 🇹🇷
As a Türk teenager I am so happy about this and I am really hopeful for my country againg. Next 3 or 4 years might be tough for us but after that everything‘s gonna be great I really believe that.
Almost 10 minutes and probably the best video to summarize the state of Turkiye at the moment. We have more hopes! I believe that Turkiye has potential to become a much better democratic nation than the west itself. It is because of its location and harmonization between west and east! We should start playing our 'BRIDGE' role and not make war cries over neighboring nations such as Greece, Syria, Iraq, Isreal and so on... We should also stop playing 2 sided in many cases (Russia and Ukraine). We should start playing our bridge role with a strong democracy. I believe, we have wisdom, experience, and maturity to reach this level! Fingers crossed!
İki taraflı oynamak?
@@dhjddjjejdjf1680hem batı hem rusyayla olan ilişkimzden bahsediyor
@@dhjddjjejdjf1680adam haklı
@@no-nx3ip rusyayla ilişkileri kesmemek ikili oynamak mı oluyor?
@@skeleton7700 nesi haklı?
Too many leaders around the world have been in power too long. There needs to be term limits and change to mitigate the damage left by bad policies. Too many bad short-term policies for selfish interests leaves long-term damage for future generations to struggle through
There are term limits in Turkey but laws do not apply to Erdogan himself.
100% spot on, it is additive as cocane to be leader of any country.
Technically it wasn’t a new term bcs he repeated elections, its a loophole.
@@GeneRauXxX Yes, because the election council is in his pocket.
There are term limits in Turkey but he found loopholes
New drinking game: while watching TLDR, every time you hear the word "anyway".. you take a shot 🥃
nope, that’s the moment I close the video
@@alensuflitonight you try it! 😂 We can't go to work drunk!
I did… you owe me a new liver 🤣
I will try 😂
Using religion as a shield can only go for so long. It can work as long as people are employed and working. But when people's pocket become empty the religion card doesn't work.
He never used it as a shield 😂😂😂
Nothing to do with religion
He made that church into mosque with future elections in mind. He portrayed himself as savior of Islamic world using Israel as target and trying to make people afraid of left liberals before elections. Very standard tactics applied by right wingers all around the world to please the majority and win votes by portraying a strong man persona.
@@mogambo4565 it wasn't a church
@@mogambo4565 his opposition is to the right of him. Lmao you know NOTHING about turkish politics.
He LOST votes for being too soft on israel
He destroys their economy internally but 40% still voted for him. They deserve him...until they grow a spine and stop behaving like sheep
Cuz idiots will always be idiots
Because Erdoğan is playing with the nationalist and religious feelings of the people. Those in big cities like Istanbul and Ankara understand, but the nationalist-Islamic Turks in Anatolia do not understand. People also know that the economy is bad. They say, "We were hungry, but we were not left without a father." Erdoğan has big investments in the military because there is no lie.
Looking down on people is no way to get more votes. I absolutely despise Erdogan, but this tone is disgusting
@@efeahmet44tamamen aslı olmayan bir yorum BEN TÜRKUM belediye seçimlerinde chp belediyeleri alabilir ama CUMHURBASKANI olarak adla chp ye oy vermeyiz TÜRKIYEYİ chp ye bırakmayız .YAŞASIN ERDOĞAN.
@@vatanci-w8q chp ve chp nin cb adayı kazanacak şimdiden hazırlan bence :) önceki seçimde kılıçdaroğlu yüzünden kaybettik ama artık o hataya da düşmeyeceğiz
I celebrated democracy in this country for the first time in my life! We hope that this is a start of something good
So when erdogan wins there is no democracy ?
@@user-zw6zc3pd9m There is no democracy when you remove a mayor who got 55% and you appoint the mayor from Erdogan's party who received 27%.
Does this say "democracy" in your country?
So when somebody is chosen you dont like its not democracy
Yorumu sil de rezil olmayalım. Ufak bir başarıda avrupalılara gidip aaaa biz başardık bakın biz kötü değiliz demek bizi ezik gösteriyor
@@korsolhe was polarising seculars and conservatives.it is good that conservatives give him a good slap to stop the bullshit
Great video! Just a tip, Ş is pronounced like Sh so it's "Yavash", Ç is like Ch (you got this one right) and you can just ignore Ğ as a silent letter (like you do with Erdoğan).
How he said İmamoğlu was cursed
As a Turk, i am so happy because of this
Don’t worry before erdogan your money was useless. I hate erdogan , they say 1/3 of the food supply Israel is coming from Turkey. Even though I’m against him. He built something for tourism. He changed the nationalism of the people so they don’t behave like national animals. . the newpresident comes with the Secular way so cult against Islam. I hope that you will be again for cigarettes near the borders.
erdogan was that bad?
@@syafiqzailan He is the worst thing that has ever happened to this country.
@@syafiqzailanEXACTLY! My big brother got arrested in a lifetime JUST BECAUSE he has criticized Erdoğan. HE HASN'T EVEN SAID ANYTHING OFFENSIVE ABOUT ERDOĞAN
Honestly guys, if you do research do it properly.
The main reason for the lira devaluation is the QE program, the financing of government spending by the central bank. MONEY PRINTING.
As long as a government finances it self via the central bank you can hike interest rates, there will be lass and less impact, as the money supply grows not via loans, but rather by the printing press.
No one really expected falling inflation, as long as there is no balanced budget.
There's a whole myriad of problems troubling the Turkish economy. Just about all of them can be traced to poor policymaking and we can thank AKP and it's voters for that. From government handouts basically made into policy to widespread corruption all the way up to interest rates, QE and overall poor financial decisions.
Any real growth was/is in spite of Erdoğan and AKP. Turkey was lucky to have sound parameters for success, somewhat dampening the devastation caused by the obvious. Both long term and short term prospects have been/are being squandered at best and irreparably destroyed at worst. All to basically fill the pockets of one dinosaur and his cronies. But who can blame them when people willingly hand it to you because you mentioned God and can put up a good show.
You would have seen similar results if Kılıcdaroglu did not force himself to candidacy
Running with Kilicdaroglu was the biggest mistake. Complaining about one-man rule and still ignoring democracy to determine CHP candidate and pushing a dinasour was insecere.
Not sure about that. Bare in mind that many of those who voted for CHP in this election are AKP-voters who just "loaned" their vote. The problem with CHP in the general and presidential elections is that they have to rely on the HDP and other parties, which the traditional voters are to afraid of.
@@habbomanish But they really don't need to ally with HDP. HDP's independent vote will catapult the election two a second round. And even if the CHP does nothing whatsoever to gain their vote, the voterbase of the HDP will always vote for the CHP over AKP in the second round.
@@Donut-fr7is They still need the kurdish voters to the parliament.
@@habbomanish Hdp is failing and no one needs them. Both erdogan and opposition had their support before and both fail miserably, crushing majority of the kurds vote strategicly and do not always heed their call as this election shows
Good news for Turkey. Let's hope that the Turks will accomplish their democracy war. Turkey is a crucial country for NATO. Turkey should stay in line with democracy to ensure the security of NATO in the ongoing situation in the Middle East and the Russian occupation of Ukraine. Gladly we're friends 🇺🇸🇹🇷
allies forever 🇺🇸🇹🇷
Siz amerikalılar bilmelisinizki pkk yanlısı politikanızdan vazgeçmediğiniz sürece türkiyeden destek beklemeyin. Natonun kurallarına uyun. nato üyesi bir ülkenin toprak bütünlüğünü tehdit eden bir örgütü desteklemeyi bırakın. Sadece türkiye sorumluymuş gibi davranmayı bırakın. Ancak bu şekilde birbirimizi anlarsak müttefik olabiliriz.
What next? For the next 4 years probably not much, but it does brighten things a little bit for those that had lost almost all hope.
Also C is a J sound in Turkish. Pronounced Jeh Heh Peh. Imamoglu and Kilicdoroglu also don't have hard G sounds in them.
Pointing out the hard G mistake is fair but he does not need to pronounce CHP like that lol. That'd just kinda unneccesarily confusing when the letters are onscreen and this is made for an English speaking audience.
@@badboje6040 Yeah maybe fair point, usually something that might be pointed out in the first instance and then go with one or the other.
Out of curiosity, are there any Turks who want to get rid of Ğ as a letter? Since it only functions as a vowel lengthener in modern Turkish, and has lost its original sound of gh/French r
@@johanfurtado6887 No, it is not completely silence our just a lengthener. For example my name would be pronounced completely different if that letter was removed.
Just avoid ğ altogether.
The -oglu ending in Turkish names (e.g. Kilicdaroglu) is pronounced with a soft G, you barely even hear it. It's pronounced somewhat similar to an H. When you use so many names ending in -oglu it gets quite confusing
Olm kim neden uğraşsın ya boş boş işler
@@josephjoestar4633doğru telaffuz etsinler.
Very confused tbh. I've always thought a soft G is basically a J sound, like in cage, but you're saying it sounds like an H? Is it more guttural, like the ch in Loch?
@@lif6737 Ğ has no sound and isn't similar to any letter. It serves as a vowel lengthener.
@@lif6737 you can even ignore that letter. it is close to having 'no sound'
Main problem of the Turkish politics is that the any party that rules over 2-3 terms, somehow becames the state-party and loses its connection from the ordinary citizens' everyday strugles and starts to act like they are the state itself. Inönü's CHP, Menderes' DP, Özal's ANAP and now Erdoğan's AKP. This pattern exist in Turkish politics regarldess of party and leaders political background.
Main problem is systemical Ataturk did not put any systemical railguards for governmental work,dictatoship and powering noncentral governmental structures. But all of these was because of necesities of that time. 1 because the country was new and it needed an authoratic central regime to put new changes fast and efficiently ,2 social democracy was a new concept so nobody knew how to integrate it properly. This wouldnt caused problem if Turkey stopped worshipping Ataturk and started to upgrade its political and governmental system over time but instead we tried to keep status quo so country needs to have authocratic power to move further or system will just collapse. But authocratic powers tend to corrupt really fast so it is a never ending cycle we will experience until the system changes properly.
@@exosproudmamabear558 İnönü's status quo and his party-state after Atatürk is understandable considering that happened during ww2, but the people I mentioned above that came power after him, really be able to came to power because they all critisized İnönü's party-state policies. But eventually they all ended up doing the same thing. Not only their political concept changed, but their values and ideas also changed. Özal for example started as liberal, he proposed to move away from unitary state to more multicultural one and changing country's name to Anatolia insted of Turkey, but when you look at his later term policies he was planning to invade and re-take Mosul for his Great Turkish State.. Erdoğan is also same, he is now, especially after the coup attempt, safe-guarding Atatürk's founding principles, even the secularism which he critisized a lot during his early career. No one would believe that if you told this 10 years ago but here we are now. Türkiye's imperial legacy and its foundation principles eventually funnels its govering mechanism to more authocratic side. A unitary nation state surrounded by its former subjects while majority of its public are extremely patriotic and culturally conservative. I believe this makes ruling parties to act according to nations founding priniples, since they become to see themselves the state itself after some time. We would probably continue this cycle for a long time, I think after Erdoğan we would get in a transition period like in the 90's after Özal. Then it will follow up with our new early liberal-later authotratic leader..
@@exosproudmamabear558 You lost me at worshipping part.
@@yahuniye What a beautiful way to summarise it. I wouldnt be able to say this myself. Solution is indeed more nuanced and should be slow to implement or maybe it doesnt even exist because of the foundation of the country afterall.
But I realised most governments who want to do a change have too idealistic ideas when they come into power in my opinion. Slight nudges to the right path would be much better. Trying to change a thing too fast would cause resistency and bouyancy. But this aproach although may work in some countries who have stabile enviroments ,Turkey's dynamic political enviroments due to geopolitical place may cause a huge problem to implement it. Especially when big powers jumble things up in middle east and causing a rift between the continents. It is really difficult to make small but constant changes in the right direction when you need to act quickly to solve a immidiate problems from outside of your country. Afterall you can control your country with a good system but controlling outside factors are pretty difficult.
In time, the sun will shine on us once again. We have been born secular and we shall be secular until the end 🇹🇷
Your grandfather were never secular plus argon secular itself 1/3 of the food supply Israel is coming from Turkey. Before Eragon, you were begging behind the borders of other countries for cigarettes, remember those times. I hate him. He built something for tourism, but people are so disgusting nationalist disgusting, righteous people even though he’s evil he is too good for people like you..
Laikmi doğdun gülünç olma
this content clearly explained the situation. so, well done you guys.
Very good topic and information. TU from Naples Florida.
I think it is also worth mentioning that the Turks outside Turkey cannot vote in local elections and that also had an impact on the result as they are predominantly pro-Erdogan. Anyways, so happy for my country❤
Evet etkili onlar dışarda avrupalıların ne pk olduğunu biliyorlar
Overall, pretty good summary. Still, like many other summaries, it neglects multiple (and possibly) critical points.
The dynamics of local and parliamentary elections in Turkey are quite distinct. While voters may refrain from going to the ballot at local elections due to various reasons (such as a corrupt mayoral candidate), they certainly don't miss the parliamentary or presidential elections. In this case, local elections do not accurately provide a forecast for the next presidential or parliamentary elections.
On the other hand, I believe you should've analyzed the voter turnout. A significant portion of the opposition's mayoral candidates won despite receiving less number of votes, but having a higher percentage of the votes. This was due to the lower than usual voter turnout. It seems that the ruling party's supporters chose to protest/punish the party for poor performance in the recent years along with quite idiotic selection of candidates (some of whom are known to be corrupt, ties with criminal organizations etc.).
You may ask why choose local elections to protest the ruling party. I believe the answer is quite simple: it's less risky for those who usually vote for the ruling party. The stakes are always higher in presidential or parliamentary elections. Meanwhile, if a clearheaded and diligent candidate, who is a member of the opposition, becomes the mayor, it may still benefit the ruling party's supporters.
This was very interesting, especially the united opposition part that also included countries like Hungary 🇭🇺 and India 🇮🇳 with one of them being Turkey's 🇹🇷 best friend and the other being one of its worst enemies. I was having dinner 🍽 while watching this, and I laughed so hard at that point that I nearly choked on the food!
The left audio feed in my headphones was ringing for some reason. I tested it on over videos and audio outside of TH-cam. Just thought I'd mention it. Great coverage as always!
Turks living abroad votes also a factor in the general election
How ?
@@skp8748 a higher % of expats living abroad voted for Erdoğan than people living in Turkey, 59.2% expats voted for Erdoğan compared to 52% in Turkey voted for him, this is a factor not seen in local elections
@@toker6664 in which vote lmao... he won the presidential elections this is mayoral
@@skp8748 He won't win the next one. He cannot even run in the next one XD
@@AA-jp9cj he's not running.
Can anyone explain me how he was re-elected after the catastrophic infrastructural failure of the earthquake especially when people have access to the internet and can see how other countries like Japan build their cities?
He was elected because the 6-party opposition bloc couldn't create confidence in the eyes of the voters. The leaders of these parties contradicted each other and the voters thought "Woe to the country if these novices take the helm". In short, voters elected Erdoğan again just out of desperation, for the lack of a reasonable alternative.
@@Kenan-Z This "novices" label is very reminiscent of autoritarian societies and countries which are the heritage of the old patriarchal structure
@@markmuller7962 OK, Mr. Foucault 😖
Erdogan himself created this personality cult that implies his absolution of any kind of wrongdoing. As a person who experienced this earthquake in a province that worst hit, his supporters often said that main opposition blockaded the acts of infrastructural renewal of the city, which, i must say, is the truth but opposition has its rightful reasons as well, so erdogan couldnt do much legally. They also claim in response to accusations of delayed arrival of disaster response units and relief volunteers with lines like "disaster area is huuuuge, so how can he be everywhere at the same time." The last reason why he re-elected, especially in disaster-hit areas, is the most brain fart one. People in those areas said that, with underlying reason of fear of abondenment, he is the only one that can build our homes and cities again so we should vote for him blabla.
Oh, also, the most commonly used saying in favor of erdogan is that his opposition, especially kilicdaroglu, is working in cooperation with kurdish hdp-dem party, who has some sort of ties with terrorist organisation pkk so this reason came before anything else in eyes of most of the conservative turkish and kurdish voter.
Arabic people, tourist or immigrant are more valuable for akp government, turkish people feel forgotten. They want to make turkey more conservative as saudi but we dont have oil, so economy sucks, akp government declining.
As a greek i am effected by the outcome of what happens in turkey almost as much as the actual turks
Really
hi neighbor
Wow i have never seen anybody talk about my country AND know whats going on. this a s tier video
Your country is a dictatorship lmao
If Turkey wants to progress as a nation from all points of view, than it needs to put SCIENCE , human rights and freedom of speech BEFORE islam. That is not going to happen with Erdogan at the top.
O zaman İslâm ın anlamı kalmaz.
Yine bilime insan haklarına önem verir ama İslâm ın önüne koyarsan İslâm ın anlamı kalmaz
TURKIYE 23 senedir ilerliyor ELHAMDULİLLAH 80 sene yerinde saydi .YURKIYE RECEP TAYYİP ERFOĞANLA GÜÇLÜ TÜRKIYE oldu.
Ayrica ISLAM demek özgürluk insan hakları ADALET demek tabi MÜSLUMAN değilsen nerden bileceksin.İSLAM HUZUR DEMEK.
We shouldn’t be too optimistic, but it is a very good sign.
great analysis of the situation. The only thing I'd add to this would be the rise of the ultra Islamist party which contributed to the splititng of Erdogan's votes, and they actually managed to get 2 conservative provinces
I can't imagine Erdogan's reaction when his candidate lost for the 2nd time(re-run in Instambul and Ankara)😂
Also in adana,Izmir,Antalya and almost all big cities
Especially turning a narrow loss into a landslide loss in Istanbul, and thus making Imamoglu (& other opposition candidates) known across the country.
Yes, CHP is getting stronger. CHP stands for secular Turkey. In other words, it is the kind of Türkiye that Europe does not like. Because Europeans who pay the government and use Turkey as a refugee depot will not like this. We know that they love Erdoğan even though they accuse him of being a dictator or a conservative. How nice, we both looked bad in the eyes of the European people and it was in their interests. As far as I understand, they will now be punished for manipulating the civilian population. There is democracy in my country and this surprised some people. You have no idea how Erdogan came to power. You have no idea what you support in Turkey. military coups, purchased foundations, economic assassinations. Yes, we do it all, right? You are so hypocritical. . You've always had an easier time buying secular things. I hope it won't be that easy this time.
fuck the EU
The fact that turkish society runs on hate, is obvious.
They compete on who is the most hater.
Good news! I keep wondering how the rebuilding after the earthquakes has been going. Did building codes get improved?
Building codes were up to date even in the time of earthquake. The problems were:
1-) AKP had a zoning amnesty (they had called it a "peacefire" in both 2018 general and 2019 local elections) and that amnesty meant a lot of old, crumbling buildings didn't got demolished.. You can get what happened in 2023.
2-) As far as i know, the situation in the earthquake zones are far from ideal. Most still live in tents and containers with high fees and they are also being taken away as "the houses are finished" (they aren't, the newspapers go from barely %1 to %33 of them being done).
Wowww, perfectly explained everything.... As a Turk, can say that for sure
Mustafa Kemal Atatürk rocks! Period❤His legacy still lives, no matter what.
Mustafa kemal ataturk never banned headscarves his wife wore won but the opposition in Turkiye is a party that have a record of taking peoples freedom.
I am turkish we lost years due to kilicdaroglus stubbornness
I just don't see how a fractured opposition could win better than a united even though they would be ideologically very different.
There is no way Fidesz in Hungary or AKP in Turkey can be ousted without a unified opposition. They are just too big compared to any other party. In Hungary they also lack a conservative but more pro-european party like most center-right parties in other countries.
Same thing in India, INC knows it can't beat the BJP alone anymore. They were in power for decades and people remember that, either youn need to unify with other opposition parties, or you need a completely new big tent party.
something the video creator didnt mention was that coalitions are just unpopular and taboo in turkey in general among older people
Take the example of a Coalition of parties A-B-C
If a voter despises party C but usually Votes for A then there is a chance he doesn't vote for the ABC coalition at all.
However if they run separetely and then that doesn't happen and they still have the option for form a coalition afterwards.
INC ruled India for 60 years [1950-1998, 2004-2014] & they followed $hitty socialist policies... of course, the public will vote for BJP(Modi) who is more business-friendly & pro-capitalism.
If INC hadn't been forced to liberalize the economy by the IMF in 1991, they would have used socialist policies even now & India wouldn't have been able to grow forever.
The IMF forcing INC to open the country's economy was one of the best things that happened to the Indian economy...
In politics 2 + 2 is not always 4. People often vote and follow a dynamic, high momentum leader. Coalitions like these complicate things so much, they often lose momentum and give the public a messy image. Making the already ruling "strong leader" look more stable.
@@fly463 ya that can be a reason too but the last tenure of their government was actually good economically. The major reason why they don't win is because 1.Modi is heavily popular. 2. Rahul Gandhi (main opposition leader) is a dynastic politician who has had no experience in politics before. 3.Their appeasement politics for the muslim community votes. 4. Rampant corruption in their last tenure. 5. Although this may not be very important but as you mentioned it's true INC party has a very big past baggage so people don't like them.
In Israel anti-netanyahu coalition actually won, so may be it is not a rule
Beautifully analysed and presented. Hats off to all the effort that you put it on
Today is a good day
Atatürk ❤ i m proud of my people for not giving up on hope!
Atatürk #1
Kılıçdaroğlu #2
İmamoglu #3 for me
Attaturk was himself a military dictator. How you can hope of a democracy when your icon is a dictator 😂😂😂
@@durontooprotiroddho8316 no he wasn’t, he literally founded the country. If he wanted he could declare himself as sultan or the new king. He said system will be democracy when half of the citizens didn’t even know what elections mean
Attaturk 🤡🤡🤡
@@ROBOROBOROBOROBO
He technically declared himself the president for life lol.
He didn't even held any election.
Great video, I feel like you missed 1 thing though. CHP has not gained so much popularity since 2019, rather them winning is a product of votes splitting between AKP, MHP, and YRP, especially in the rural areas you highlighted. Keep up the good work!
Win by big margin in Istanbul
We Turks hate Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu (KK). We tried to insist to CHP not to make him a candidate, but the earthquake of February 6, 2023 happened at the time when the protests were about to start. After the local elections, everyone hated KK even more because we saw once again that if it wasn't for him, there was a clear possibility that Erdoğan would leave.
7:21 Bruh.
2028’s tea couldn’t get any hotter than this
2028 is far from here, that tea can get cold before it becomes hot again
I thought Biden and Trump were bad. Turkey almost makes them look competent.
As a Turkish teenager, I am pleased with the result. I hope that in 2028 the opposition will completely win. We will not leave the principles of Atatürk and democracy.
Ataturk is suffering unimaginable torment in his grave and you want to follow him? 😂😂
@@s_shalehno matter what the situation of the nation is... we will
Oğlum sus ya. Rezil etme kendini sağda solda
An ignorant and unnecessary comment. No one has gone to the other world and come back. Moreover, it is also doubtful whether there is another world. The issue of religion and faith is an individual issue. What is true is that the affairs of religion and state proceed separately.@@s_shaleh
Rezil olacak bir durum yok, gerçekler.@@ardaalpay
I guess Blaming Israel for everything bad in the world didn't work for him this time
got nothing to do with israel, all of political parties in turkey are pro-palestine.
Actually he losts a lot of votes when it is reported that Turkiye still trades with Israel. He would perform much better if he embargoed Israel.
he never did that... you should hear that muslims hated him for not helping Palestine enough... that's just the state of muslims right now, no agreeing with anything, can't resist etc.
@@odenat3701 still good to know that he lost
Erdogan shouts at israel but behind scenes he is biggest supporter of Israel,
so people did not vote him
Corruption will always lose in the end...
Showing the likes of Izmir, Bursa, Antalya, Mersin and Adana as rural is strange. But, good video.
He's playing Simcity with our country. God help us...
Also this time the erdogan german -Turks supporters were not involved
They made huge cheats in the abroad elections. I have seen the statistics,it was abysmal in many countries counted votes were higher than the voter number which is impossible if you didnt add extra votes.
Can confirm the correctness of the information in this video, thanks!
Kilicdaroglu has lost more than 10 elections. NO ONE wanted him to be the candidate, not even the majority of CHP supporters. They didn't announce the candidate until the very last minute, everyone was hoping that they were going to either put Imamoglu or Yavas as the candidate, and then Kilicdaroglu put himself forward, and refused to change. Even the second biggest opposition party left the coalition because of that, they did so many independent polls that all showed Kilicdaroglu was the weakest candidate in the country, much below other candidates, even below mayors. But he refused to step down. In the end, the iyi party agreed to come back to the table on the condition that kilicdaroglu make Imamoglu and Yavas his advisors. But it was too late, even though there are/were millions of former AKP voters who wanted to have a change, there was no way on earth they would ever vote for Kilicdaroglu, he is like the antichrist to them. So they voted for Erdogan again. After the defeat, Kilicdaroglu outright refused that this was a defeat, and he paraded around like he had accomplished a lot. Boasting that he had got 47% of the votes, and how this was a major victory (he had never had this many votes before in his life). Everyone said he should resign but he has no shame so he refused. It wasn't until CHP themselves kicked him out that he finally stepped aside. And the new guy who replaced him is pretty much the same person, just in a different body. CHP will never learn. They will lose the next general election as well.
haha
Özgür Özel isn't bad
@@piuvpiuv When the people protested against Kılıçdaroğlu to resign online, Özgür Özel made a tweet ordering his followers to "Expose (dox) those accounts, because most of them will turn out to be AKP trolls". Ozel and Kilicdaroglu are just like Erdogan. Instead of the slightest of self criticism, they label anyone and everyone who criticises them as AKP trolls, threaten to "expose" (dox) them, and have absolutely no desire for any accountability for their actions. Most nationalists, most conservatives, most leftists, and secularists would rather vote for Yavas or Imamoglu than to either of Kilicdaroglu or Ozel. We saw the evidence of this in the last election. CHP will repeat the same mistake again, because they are not a party that learns from their mistakes. They are a corrupted organisation, with a top-down rotting structure.
True but very wrong about the guy repalced him
@@piuvpiuv I agree, but I think especially after Imamoğlu's landslide in Istanbul and his amazing victory speech, he may be put as the next candidate for 2028. as someone from Izmir, we all generally like him, MUCH better than Kılıçdaroğlu, who couldn't even win in the time of it being the perfect opportunity to to crush Erdoğan.
Atatürk would be ashamed of what our country has turned into.
I remember a similar story a few years ago...
CHP won almost all big cities and thear best performance since 1977.CHP is now the biggest party
I was very angry with Kılıçdaroğlu because he insisted on being a candidate. But now, for some reason, I'm glad it happened this way. Because the opposition would not have been able to fix the economy in sufficient time, and this would have given the Islamists a reason to blame the bad state of the economy on the opposition and give them another endless period. Erdoğan is currently in a political impasse. The bad economy works against him.
Bro he literally said good parti 1:02
I feel like there's e need for pt. 2 about how this contests with the upcoming elections in European countries. I'm personally wondering about polish local and presidential races
Wow, such a great analysis from a guy outside of Turkey. Well done!
Erdogan would have lost last year if the opposition didn’t go with Kılıçdaroğlu
I thought he was a dictator 😂😂
@@skp8748not exactly
They both working for Erdogan. Polls was showing that CHP to win , if they declared the candidate as Imamoglu or Yavas. Opposition party wanted to lose in 2023. They do deals at the backyard.
“Way back in 2019 “ lol
1:03 ok, iyi means good in turkish but iyi in question here is the banner of old turkic house called "kayı boyu"
Finally he’s getting out of the picture!
Not really, he just lost some seats. You got clickbaited bro
Thats... an take so overly optimistic, it borders on self delusion.
Nothing happened in 2019 either
@@bababababababa6124He Lost almost all big cities with big margin.CHP is The biggest party now
Just ask, so in turkiye the party local election more important than the president?
@@hasinabegum1038 Parliament and presidency were decided last year. This year was just mayors and local councillors, the results here are going to have very little impact at the national level.
"How badly they faired" yall showed a 53 to 47 wym?! that's huge opposition
AKP lost with coalition against CHP who didnt have a coalition
@@AA-jp9cjthey did have btw cause akp has endorsedment from far right wing political party in presidential and parliamentary election
The percentages don't tell the whole story. CHP gained control of 35 cities, predominantly urban areas, while AKP now holds 24 cities, mostly rural areas. Therefore, the opposition now controls most of Turkey's economy.
If you want to see next, look at; 1989 - 1994 and 2009 - 2011.
❤❤❤ ATATURK. WHAT A GREAT LEADER ❤❤❤
Ataturk never committed an Alevi massacre. Even Ataturk's father was Alevi-Bektashi!
Atatürk loved the Alevi people very much.
"Diyanet Foundation", on the other hand, was Sunnitized after 1950, that is, after the Adnan Menderes government.
The purpose of establishing Diyanet Foundation was to prevent bigotry, bigoted communities and sects.
This was the purpose when it was founded in 1924 and until 1938.
In the constitutional article defining the Diyanet, it is stated that the aim of the Diyanet is to provide equal service to all faiths and religions.
In Article 136 of the Constitution, "The Presidency of Religious Affairs, which is within the general administration, fulfills the duties specified in its special law, in line with the principle of secularism, by remaining outside all political views and thoughts and aiming at national solidarity and integration." provision is included. (1924)
Dersim
ataturk had his opposition killed, you should see his remarks about arabs and armenians to see how great of a person he was
@@egeakcay6917 I'm from Dersim Tunceli and Atatürk never massacre to Dersim. He is very ill that time.
@@umerbsr Arabs and Armenians? 😅 They are always hated ant Turk. Not just Atatürk, Arab's and Armenian's racist nationalist, always hate all Turks.
1:14 *Does Google Maps still show the Artsakh Nagorno-Karabakh seperate from 🇦🇿Azerbaijan?*
Finally good turkish news
What's good
Just for information: CHP - Kilicdaroglu is the same as Joe Biden, most voted but doesn't mean shit..
AKP overstayed their welcome.
Indeed we are pulling the plug now
Didn’t erdogen say he was going to step down this election?
He most likely wouldn’t run in 2028
@@hasinabegum1038 sonunda artık
Didn't he say the same thing in 2009@@hasinabegum1038
Don't forget, thats the same Guy that changed the political system from parliamentary to presidential, because it suited him better.
Someone that just throws the board after loosing and re-arrenges the pieces on it to his liking can't really "loose" .
Nah, he implied he next one, general elections. He can try an early election, he can legally be a candidate if he does that, tho i don't think he will do that after the results of this local elections.
The G is silent in Imamoğlu
You forgot the #2 reason, refusing to cut ties with Isra
as a social democrat kemalist, i cant explain how happy i am
Sosyal demokrat ve kemalizm bir arada nasıl oluyor?
@@Eecee27 olabilir, kemalizm bir ideolojiden çok inanış ve düşünce olarak sayıldığı için mümkün
Game over for tief
Maybe not “ the end” yet, but hopefully, “ the beginning of the end”. !!’
Good 3 reasons U guys gave why Erdoğan and his AKP really underperformed this time. There are probably even more reasons we can mention here why the current government with Erdoğan managed to piss off a lot of people to the level where they actually lost the popular vote, a lot of scandals has been coming out since June 2023. I can go as far as to say that people with close friendship to Erdoğan that has been involved in various scandals made it enough for the voters to not vote for the AKP this time. For instance, if I say the name "Mehmet Büyükekşi", he probably made everyone fed up by the AKP government, various other governing bodies and their friends in general.
But the fact regarding Kılıçdaroğlu is probably the most true one. Yavaş and İmamoğlu would have probably done it better than Kılıçdaroğlu, especially Mansur Yavaş. But not only them... Even profiles from the smaller parties or other CHP mayors in the former Anti-Erdoğa coalition would have done it better than Kılıçdaroğlu. The CHP mayors of Bolu, Adana and Mersin would have done it better than Kılıçdaroğlu. Oktay Vural, a highly ranked member of the Good Party's administrative board would have done it better Kılıçdaroğlu. Even Cemal Enginyurt who since 2022 has gained a lot of media attention from the even smaller Democratic Party would have done it better than Kılıçdaroğlu!
Secular CHP became the first party in the elections across Türkiye, Erdoğan will go in the next general election.
Yrmi ye sen pkkcilar hicbir zamn lider olamaz
Imamogli prays with imamns snd posts on socisl medis
this is pretty optimistic but I do hope so
Excellent reportage. Bravo!
Hello from 🇹🇷Türkiye gave women the right to vote before many European countries. For example, France gave this right to its women 12 years after the Turks. The grandfather of most Americans today owned a slave. Black people couldn't even go to college 60 years ago. Trying to give democracy lessons to us makes you look ridiculous. Thank you.
I guess that since then some countries progressed and some took backwards steps.
Turkish pride makes then not only look funny, but it's the main reason that their country is the way it is now.
Before many European countries isn't saying much
The US, UK, Finland, Russia, Germany Australia did it before you.
It's not like you led that movement, but followed it. Good for you guys
But only in the 1930.
Beforehand, during the first world war, "Turkey" committed a genocide against Armenians, killing 1.5 million.
You still barely have black people in Turkey.
And, it's the worst mannered country in all of Eurasia
@@elialit123 Armenian genocide? It was not a genocide like the Jewish genocide. It was a war. And you, An israeli :) The whole world sees what you do.
@@elialit123 Hey man what did you do to the natives of America
@@ipsiz1929 "wHaT aBoUt AmErIcA"
Cem Uzan'a hapis şoku gibi video
Antalya, Adana, Bursa, Denizli, Izmir, Mersin are the other major cities which CHP also won the race, specially Bursa and Denizli are governed by AKP for so long.
With Erdogan or without! Turkiye will rise
his first victory was with %34 in 2002 and last week; he got %35 (also, he wasn't the one competing but his low-profile candidate murat was)
his majority of voters wanted to give him a message by not voting at all to remind him there was a reason they gave him %50+ just 7 months ago, even with same bad economic conditions
سجن مؤبد
in my opinion, current chp is just the lesser evil. I dislike the current optjons we have now