Watched this last night. Good luck to you both because this man should be behind bars for the remainder of his life. To put his daughter through that ordeal was despicable.
I cannot believe he didn’t receive a whole life tariff, this man is a monster, he should never be released. I feel so sorry for the family, especially the children who must dread him getting in touch with them.
Yes. In the USA he'd have never seen liberty again. I'm not sating the USA get it right but in the UK we are waaaayyy to soft in our sentences in this type of situation.
I'm sure the anger he had has been increasing during his time in prison and can fully understand how scared how Joanna's family must be feeling...petrified ...It's so true our Judges and the law in this country is a farce...
I totally despair of judges and juries in UK. This is a travesty. His lawyer/judge/whoever, is beyond despicable for withholding the 'chilling clip' of her granddaughter being interviewed by police. This is a most terrible crime.
Actually she rushed ahead with the relationship and realised the mistake on her honeymoon. Then she got pregnant and felt trapped. Good thing her father made him sign a prenup. Watch the programme more than once.
I'm so puzzled by law in England. Any murderer needs to be at least serving a 50-year sentence. The fact that this murderer is serving only half the sentence because the law was changed after his conviction beggars belief. I can't understand why an appeal wasn't made for a retrial of his 'man slaughter' conviction. The lady doesn't look anything close to 85 years old, and I hope she has good security for her safety. Her life, like her daughter's, is too precious to end by the hand of another.
@@manichairdo9265 sadly the bias in favour of the accused leads to criminals getting off lightly.... unless you say something that the govt doesn't like. Then, the hammer falls hard. Grooming gang child rapists walk free, the man that called it out has been persecuted by the law for years andxthe police officers who tried to do something about it were drummed out of their jobs. That is British justice now.
A life sentence is 100 years. Period ,that means there sentence is 100 years. Then they're given a minimum tariff ie 25 years ,which means once they've served this they'll be considered for release . It doesn't mean they'll be released. They have to behave and prove thst they're rehabilitated. This woman knew what he was like.yet married him and had two kids with him. Then suffered the consequences of her bad judgement.
This is so sad for the family to have to endure after losing their daughter in such a terrible way. Manslaughter shouldn’t have been allowed in this case . Rest in peace Joanna.
There's no rest for the family. It goes on and on. My heart goes out to you. He buried her on his flight path.. how sick is that. I hope he rots inside the nick.
We're you on the jury ???? With the full facts in front of you ??? She chose to marry him and have children with him,when she knew what he was like. Consequences of her choices.
@@stringer-ik1pc I'm pleased I wasn't on the jury. Embarrassing decision. It was as premeditated as it can get. You don't sound like a very nice person.
So to paraphrase what you are saying, if a woman marries a narcissistic killer and is bludgeoned to death, it’s HER fault???!!! Wow just wow. No wonder society has such problems.
Pre dug grave? That’s demonstrating mens rea. I don’t know how he got the sentence that he did. He needs locking up for the rest of his life. Appalling
I’ve never been on a jury. Can someone please advise whether when the jury has retired to consider the verdict, do they have anyone else present? For example to ensure that one or more jurors don’t dominate the others, or if a point of law is being questioned they have legal advice immediately to hand? Are they just left to it?
I've been on a Jury twice & Coroner's Jury making it 3. You're left to your own devices! No one else just the Jury members. When you go out to deliberate the judge will give guiding questions to consider .... Yes or No answers and these determine the verdict very often. I don't know what went wrong here ! It's appalling .....
@@sheenasullivan1639 thank you for explaining. I find it quite concerning that there’s nobody else there to ensure the most forceful personalities don’t intimidate the others to agree with their verdict. The outcome of this trial is inexplicable. I do think that defence lawyers have no morals whatsoever and will ‘cheat’ in any way possible to achieve the best results for themselves, regardless of true justice.
Feel for the family, how terrible to lose your daughter in such a dreadful way. The children have grown up without a mother and will now know the full facts.He should never, ever be released.
So basically they are saying they should have bought in irrelevant but prejudicial evidence in the trial. The little girl crying brings nothing but emotion to sway a jury. More subversion of our criminal justice system.
its almost as though they want him to be released they know it will wind everyone up(it already has)and they know the serious danger he poses to society there attitude"that it does'nt matter if we let him out"is imeasurably wicked and grossly offensive...........
the authorities will only have themselves to blame if he's released and he harms or kills someone else which is sadly a very strong possibility... he a seriously dangerous individual who cannot be released....................
I do not agree with Hetty, because all couples argue, and although this is a case where there was domestic abuse leading to the death of the lady, I truly believe that this will open up a can of worms for normal incidents exaggerated by over emotional partners who are in the moment in a heated argument . How does one measure coercive behaviour and does one create a law, just in case the aggressor was perhaps a little over animated at a particular point?
On her wedding night she rang her mother and said I've made a terrible mistake. Yet, went on to have two children with him. Women need to take responsibility for who they get in bed with.
I watched the program last night and although I really wanted to watch it I fell asleep as I thought it was very poorly made .I hated all the music and foggy scenes ,they picked the wrong people to make this program for goodness sake CUT the music 😡
The facts are no matter anyone's opinions or feelings he was convicted of manslaughter and sentenced accordingly and has served his minimum time. fortunately just because someone says he shouldn't be released doesn't mean that he can be held indefinitely. im sure he will have conditional restrictions on his release.
@@benharry9117 but it's not so get over it, the remaining time on his sentence is meant to be a deterrent as it's the time left to serve if he commits any crime and is recalled back to prison, he would then have to carry out any other sentence consecutively. Would you rather he served his full time and had zero restrictions on his release? Imo that would make someone with harmful intent far more dangerous.
@@BIZZYBSTRD I hope you are never asked to do jury service with your cold comments, I sincerely hope that narcissist is refused his appeal to save other women.
Based on the information I’ve seen the jury in this case got it spectacularly wrong. That aside I can’t understand why you are so gleeful that this man is going to be released into society. I bet you wouldn’t think the same if your family had been victims.
Yeah she lost family member but he served half his time so should be released that is the law, if he served all his time this family member sounds like she would still pope up to punish him none stop
Watched this last night. Good luck to you both because this man should be behind bars for the remainder of his life. To put his daughter through that ordeal was despicable.
I cannot believe he didn’t receive a whole life tariff, this man is a monster, he should never be released. I feel so sorry for the family, especially the children who must dread him getting in touch with them.
Yes. In the USA he'd have never seen liberty again. I'm not sating the USA get it right but in the UK we are waaaayyy to soft in our sentences in this type of situation.
The USA is no example of superior justice system.@@Medicinemen100
He should have got life with no parole
Why are sentences halfed...no point in giving the full sentence in the first place
Tories dont like paying to keep citizens safe from criminals, they need the money to give themselves pay rises and tax cuts!
I'm sure the anger he had has been increasing during his time in prison and can fully understand how scared how Joanna's family must be feeling...petrified ...It's so true our Judges and the law in this country is a farce...
They are DISGUSTING aren't they?
Why should this woman's family be subjected to this level of fear for their safety? They didn't do anything!
I totally despair of judges and juries in UK. This is a travesty. His lawyer/judge/whoever, is beyond despicable for withholding the 'chilling clip' of her granddaughter being interviewed by police. This is a most terrible crime.
It was the fault of the prosecution...it was available to them and their case to make!...
@@stringer-ik1pc Spoken like a true Narcissist.
@@Blue24Osprey answered like a true female apologist.
@@stringer-ik1pc That's right - you narcs blame the victim every time.
Actually she rushed ahead with the relationship and realised the mistake on her honeymoon. Then she got pregnant and felt trapped. Good thing her father made him sign a prenup.
Watch the programme more than once.
He should have his appeal refused and his sentence doubled to 52 years.
He never should have been given anything less than life
He got life ,100 years. She knew what he was like ,yet married him and had two kids with him.
We all mistakes in picking the right partner, but this guy is a murderer, he knew exactly what he wanted to do @@stringer-ik1pc
Lock him up for life !!!
This is daft. How did he get such a small sentence?
Money talks , lawyers getting good money
Absolutely shocking to even consider releasing this monster 😮keep him locked up to protect all public safety
I'm so puzzled by law in England. Any murderer needs to be at least serving a 50-year sentence.
The fact that this murderer is serving only half the sentence because the law was changed after his conviction beggars belief.
I can't understand why an appeal wasn't made for a retrial of his 'man slaughter' conviction.
The lady doesn't look anything close to 85 years old, and I hope she has good security for her safety. Her life, like her daughter's, is too precious to end by the hand of another.
We don't have justice in England
@@sharoncooke1719 It sure seems like hit and miss, Sharon.
You cannot simply say that prosecution doesn't agree with the jury..you can't go behind their verdicts...you need grounds for appeal unfortunately...
@@manichairdo9265 sadly the bias in favour of the accused leads to criminals getting off lightly.... unless you say something that the govt doesn't like. Then, the hammer falls hard. Grooming gang child rapists walk free, the man that called it out has been persecuted by the law for years andxthe police officers who tried to do something about it were drummed out of their jobs. That is British justice now.
A life sentence is 100 years. Period ,that means there sentence is 100 years. Then they're given a minimum tariff ie 25 years ,which means once they've served this they'll be considered for release .
It doesn't mean they'll be released.
They have to behave and prove thst they're rehabilitated.
This woman knew what he was like.yet married him and had two kids with him.
Then suffered the consequences of her bad judgement.
Watching from the US...This is why it's so important to get a suitable charge. SMH.
Completely disgraceful system of conviction in UK, imho. This horrific case is a travesty.
America is the most unsafe corrupt country in the world regardless of your high prison sentencing. Im not sure what you're bragging about....
She knew what he was like,yet she married him and had two kids with him. Why dont you blame her ????
What were the jury and judge thinking shocking failure😮
This is so sad for the family to have to endure after losing their daughter in such a terrible way. Manslaughter shouldn’t have been allowed in this case . Rest in peace Joanna.
Hiw dare he even think of living free 😮 them poor kids 😢
Very good interview
He must stay in prison he must
SO, WHAT THEN ARE THE GROUNDS FOR EARLY RELEASE? 😡😡😡
Judges and barristers should be named and shamed in these cases
Yes they migth been bribe with a large amount of money
The devil hides in a very dark place.😮
The family have to re live this ordeal. This is tragic I watched this last night and feel he should serve his whole sentence.
There's no rest for the family. It goes on and on. My heart goes out to you. He buried her on his flight path.. how sick is that. I hope he rots inside the nick.
This is how females are treated in England. This is our worth. We are sub human.
I agree
My thoughts with you and your family. ❤
Why were the interviews deemed inadmissible? Was he denied his rights? Judges don’t just give these rulings for the fun of it!
Why only manslaughter? Ridiculous!
We're you on the jury ???? With the full facts in front of you ??? She chose to marry him and have children with him,when she knew what he was like.
Consequences of her choices.
@@stringer-ik1pc I'm pleased I wasn't on the jury. Embarrassing decision. It was as premeditated as it can get.
You don't sound like a very nice person.
@@stringer-ik1pc Watch the documentary and then comment☺️
So to paraphrase what you are saying, if a woman marries a narcissistic killer and is bludgeoned to death, it’s HER fault???!!! Wow just wow. No wonder society has such problems.
Pre dug grave? That’s demonstrating mens rea. I don’t know how he got the sentence that he did. He needs locking up for the rest of his life. Appalling
Couldn't make it up
This guy should not be getting out ever. The law is embarrassing manslaughter!!! What a joke.
No need to be frightened of this little ponce. A few quid invested in the right direction and he's gone.........for ever...if you get my drift.
I doubt the police will protect them!
I’ve never been on a jury. Can someone please advise whether when the jury has retired to consider the verdict, do they have anyone else present? For example to ensure that one or more jurors don’t dominate the others, or if a point of law is being questioned they have legal advice immediately to hand? Are they just left to it?
I've been on a Jury twice & Coroner's Jury making it 3. You're left to your own devices! No one else just the Jury members.
When you go out to deliberate the judge will give guiding questions to consider .... Yes or No answers and these determine the verdict very often. I don't know what went wrong here ! It's appalling .....
@@sheenasullivan1639 thank you for explaining. I find it quite concerning that there’s nobody else there to ensure the most forceful personalities don’t intimidate the others to agree with their verdict. The outcome of this trial is inexplicable. I do think that defence lawyers have no morals whatsoever and will ‘cheat’ in any way possible to achieve the best results for themselves, regardless of true justice.
Don't give him that fear...he loves that. That's he's energy vampirism. A Dracula
Desisory sentence
I do hope not. Please let it stay blocked
Feel for the family, how terrible to lose your daughter in such a dreadful way. The children have grown up without a mother and will now know the full facts.He should never, ever be released.
My Gaydar is on and it is on him
Can he be re-tried?
He must never be released.
What's the point of giving him a certain time to serve if he'd only serve half?
The update is that he wasn't set free as of 07.05.24
So basically they are saying they should have bought in irrelevant but prejudicial evidence in the trial. The little girl crying brings nothing but emotion to sway a jury. More subversion of our criminal justice system.
Ohhh no good very bad
its almost as though they want him to be released they know it will wind everyone up(it already has)and they know the serious danger he poses to society there attitude"that it does'nt matter if we let him out"is imeasurably wicked and grossly offensive...........
How about never be released
the authorities will only have themselves to blame if he's released and he harms or kills someone else which is sadly a very strong possibility... he a seriously dangerous individual who cannot be released....................
Monster
I do not agree with Hetty, because all couples argue, and although this is a case where there was domestic abuse leading to the death of the lady, I truly believe that this will open up a can of worms for normal incidents exaggerated by over emotional partners who are in the moment in a heated argument . How does one measure coercive behaviour and does one create a law, just in case the aggressor was perhaps a little over animated at a particular point?
He will not be released.
On her wedding night she rang her mother and said I've made a terrible mistake. Yet, went on to have two children with him. Women need to take responsibility for who they get in bed with.
And some people need to control their temper. I also refer you to my previous comment!
@@1000paulineanne go and do some washing up Pauline.
@@stringer-ik1pc
Aww
Can’t you wash your own dishes? , bless ya
I bet your mommy washes your pants and socks
The father & relatives of this poor woman, could actually 'get justice' here.
What's worrying is mainstream media take over of youtube for me. also
was she killed in a plane?
I watched the program last night and although I really wanted to watch it I fell asleep as I thought it was very poorly made .I hated all the music and foggy scenes ,they picked the wrong people to make this program for goodness sake CUT the music 😡
He deserve to be free , he served for his mistakes and mean while in jail he had the time to think and reflect about his mistake
The facts are no matter anyone's opinions or feelings he was convicted of manslaughter and sentenced accordingly and has served his minimum time.
fortunately just because someone says he shouldn't be released doesn't mean that he can be held indefinitely. im sure he will have conditional restrictions on his release.
He was sentenced to 26 years, that should be the minimum term.
@@benharry9117 but it's not so get over it, the remaining time on his sentence is meant to be a deterrent as it's the time left to serve if he commits any crime and is recalled back to prison, he would then have to carry out any other sentence consecutively.
Would you rather he served his full time and had zero restrictions on his release? Imo that would make someone with harmful intent far more dangerous.
@@BIZZYBSTRD I hope you are never asked to do jury service with your cold comments, I sincerely hope that narcissist is
refused his appeal to save other women.
Based on the information I’ve seen the jury in this case got it spectacularly wrong. That aside I can’t understand why you are so gleeful that this man is going to be released into society. I bet you wouldn’t think the same if your family had been victims.
Yeah she lost family member but he served half his time so should be released that is the law, if he served all his time this family member sounds like she would still pope up to punish him none stop
Why only manslaughter? Ridiculous!
I know right?! Pre-dug grave shows premeditation therefore 1st degree (?)