Imgine this, cops at work- "what,s his name? , answer, "oh yea, thats "the rapist". Now imagine criminals (who police deal with) having the same discussion..... "thats THE what? (question) "he raped who?" (question), "wait...he,s a rapist?" (question) "what the actual....?" (question) "You got evidence of THAT? (question likely for a detailed chat to ensue) Without doubt, the answers to those questions would be "not round my wife/daughter" followed by the knickname,s clumsy removal from the premises, "lessons learnt". Sara,s family having to learn all filth from the current investigation as we the public have. Seeing David Carrick, Adam Provan and now Cliff Mitchell (recent weeks) since Couzens murdered their daughter?!? May God send them Peace.
@@jessicabates1223 You do know rapists are criminals right? It's wild if you think hardened criminals would have cared about a rapist in their midst. Sure they wouldn't want those they care about falling victim to crime but that's always the case, they don't treat others like they'd treat themselves.
This! Military as well, especially here in the US. So many awful and vile people on the police force and in the military. They’re drawn to the positions. Power.
Some slipped through the net, most officers are decent people but this is not good enough, ALL of them need to be decent. Obviously, he was a loser and a perv who lied and cheated in order to get into a position of power that would allow him to commit crimes.
I must agree. These. Sort of people love the power over ordinary people I know a lad at school 40 odds years ago. Who only became a prefect because he wanted the power.🏴
It’s worth remembering he also desecrated her body once he killed her to hide his crime. He ruined her family’s chance to say a last farewell to her and grieve the loss properly.
What disciplinery action will be taken against the Kent Police Officers for not investigating his previous offences? I have friends who have left the Police because all their colleagues were Dirty.
With all due respect, that was evident the instant he was found guilty... He won't be the only officer who should never have been given a badge. Their conduct may not be as severe but they are there, rotting the force from within...
One thing that struck me about Wayne Couzens was that indecent exposure seemed to be a hobby of his, and that it continued through the years when he was committing other kinds of sexual offence. Men usually laugh it off as trivial, even pathetic, but it's clear that for him it was not only a gateway offence (the start of a slippery slope?) but also a way in which he could have been easily caught almost at the last moment.
@lorddavidlawrence This is TH-cam. If it was some other forum, I would be more precise and say that most men take it less seriously than most women do. Certainly the police used to have that attitude.
@@TheNelster72, Yes the Effing do ! I told a story about a man who exposed himself me . And men either laughed or made stupid jokes about it . I wished I never said anything . Mind you that conversation was in context of watching an interrogation of a rapist .
Clearly no care for "life" in or out of the force.. lengthy court cases proving what they "knew" ?!?. Better to take their pension, their financial future and that of their dependants too. So what if they have paid in for years- the offending officer can pay a lawyer to fight for his pension (not many can afford that). Its a massive deterrent just thinking about it.
50 years ago women were protesting to be safe out on the streets. And they are still doing so to this day. This is why feminism is needed and this is why there is still such inequality between men and women.
I worked in Human resources in the police and I can tell you first hand that there are thousands of officers on our streets that have major personal problems that impact their ability to carry out their job properly. In fact if it was made public many people demand they resign. I've seen so many stalking, sexual and domestic violence cases I've lost count.
My life was almost ruined by a senior officer who took against me . He was and is unhinged mentally and is very senior. People think the police have their hands tied by political correctness but in fact they can and do get away with massive breach of protocol and good practice. Most people don’t know the half of it .
I was sexually harassed by a member of the metropolitan police force . I was panicked bc I didn’t know who to report it to . He continued with phone calls knocking on my door . Even making threats to arrest me . Eventually I went to a local solicitor’s and told them what was happening . She got in touch with the PCA . I felt like I was being Interrogated by the first set of detectives who took my statement . The solicitor kept pushing the issue bc the predator was still hounding me as no action was taken . They then tap my phone and placed a camera outside my flat . Two weeks later he was handcuffed right there in my home . They had all the evidence of his conversations and footage of him coming to my house uninvited . I didn’t tell anyone except the solicitor . People who knew me read about it after the case was heard . They asked stupid questions like , how come you never told us , and , you should’ve done this and you could’ve done that . What they don’t realise is, until you’re in that situation you can’t say what you would do . One of my then friend brother told me , it takes two, to tango , WTF 😬! It’s true , women don’t usually report these horrible events bc of fear , intimidation and , embarrassment . I know if I had gone to my local police station where he was based they would not have taken the matter seriously .
What a horrendous experience for you! How courageous you were to find a way to press ahead with legal action. Wishing you all the very best going forward!
There are plenty of dodgy men out there yet when we speak out about them, us females are just dismissed as "nutters" . Sadly it took this young womans murder to make police take my appeals for help seriously. The bloke is still out there, no punishment, no record, no fine but i am vocal about his behaviour and still called names by his mates.
I am so sorry for what you've been through. I went through something similar (army man) and sometimes wonder was it worth reporting him. In my heart I know I was right but I still get verbally abused by his friends.
Not entirely true. Many women make false allegations and the men ( who are innocent) can have their name tarnished forever and the woman doesn’t receive any punishment for their lies So it goes both ways though men are less believed than women. It’s just the way it is. Not to take away that women do experience traumatic events from dangerous men, as sadly they do exist. Heartbreaking for Sarah RIP lovely lady
@@EpicAelflaed I would suggest that not "many" women do this. However, one is too many. I could argue that "many" men grape - and many get off the charge.
@@rosiebottom3870 I kindly disagree. Many woman do make false accusations and they do not get punished for it. It’s a big problem not just in the UK but in Europe and particularly the USA and Canada. You see a lot of it when there is a separation and the couple have assets and children. Allegations are an easy way to alienate the father from the children whilst throwing him out the home. Look up ‘Silver Bullet in Divorce’ It’s a real thing and happens more than you think. Rich Copper on TH-cam explains it well
couzens is NOT a man it is a BEAST and he was actually Headhunted by the useless,hapless completely disgraceful corrupt MET.RIP SARAH you will never be forgotten and do not expect much from Angliolini sle is a practiced GOV Whitewasher and Coverup merchant and some of its colleagues actively colluded with him to cover up his sexual predatorious behaviour,Then we have serial rapist Carrick +50 attacks too another bent plod of many.
Just imagine being told as a law abiding citizen, you’ve breached lockdown rules, being cuffed and told you’ll be taken to the nearest police station. To then discover as a woman alone, you’re cuffed with no way of escape, in an unmarked car, with a terrifying man, driving past that stop, and all the way to Kent. What - two hours - of horror and sort of knowing your ending but secretly hoping he will somehow let you go?!!!!! Are we ok?!!!! I wish upon wish this feeling to be felt among predators so you can feel a morsel of what women feel everywhere every day
Exactly. Embarrassing. 2 years research and she's said nothing we didnt already know. And to keep saying opportunities were 'missed', is an insult. They chose to ignore not miss
Police not taking someone committing indecent exposure as “serious enough” is beyond me!!! Do they know nothing about sexual abusers and serial killers? It’s like the first thing these people do before they escalate.
It’s not a waste of time. Whilst Inquiries allow Governments to kick the can down the road until they are published, they are a powerful tool Even though the Angolini was non-statutory, it does allow for individuals and institutions to give evidence without being compelled in the Public arena to give evidence It’s not a drawn out affair like Public inquiries and can proceed a lot faster resulting in recommendations
Are we meant to believe that this man went from 1 to 10 with nothing in between? And what of he colleagues that over the years have facilitated his actions?
I’m American and I remember when I first heard about this case, it ate away at me for weeks. She had just had a dinner gathering with friends and was walking home and in an instant, everything changed. And not only changed, but for her, it ended. It really hurt me to know that she was handcuffed. I mean he took away her ability to even attempt to defend herself. I can’t help but wonder about the car ride and when she realized she was in danger. Did he tell her? Did he lie to her at first to keep her calm? Did he taunt her for the sick pleasure of inflicting emotional pain? I know it really doesn’t matter or change anything, but these are the questions I have as a stranger, so I can’t even imagine the questions her family and friends ask themselves or all the things they wished they’d done differently, even though nothing they did even remotely caused this. Her boyfriend probably wishes he’d stayed on the call with her longer. Her friends probably wish they could’ve convinced her to have one more glass of wine. I read the victim impact statements and how the sister said it was a relief knowing soot wasn’t found in her lungs, so at least she knows Sarah wasn’t burned while still alive. I remember she wrote about how tragic it is that that’s even a thought she has to consider. Wayne is not only sick and pathetic but he’s a complete idiot. He’s a cop and somehow managed to carry out the most conspicuous murder plot of all time. I read that he traveled over and over to study London and plan the crime, but everything he did left clues. That’s the only saving grace, so at least it was solved quickly. It was amazing watching him squirm while being interviewed. He claims he was concerned about harm coming to his family while he was telling his lies but he sure didn’t mind taking Sarah from hers. I noticed he mirrored the language of the officer. The officer questioning him said he thought Wayne had something to do with taking Sarah away from her loved ones and he later used that same verbiage when he lied about the gang threatening to take his family away from him. Sarah was such an incredible person too, based on everything I’ve read about her. They never take the horrible people of the world, it’s only ever the great ones. I hope her family can find peace, but I know it’s going to be very difficult for them for a long time. One of their members was stolen and extinguished in the worst way possible. And the piece of shit that did this to her bought an effing pastry the morning after. I hope his time in prison is torturous. Edit: I know she said Couzens and officers like him manipulate their image at work to avoid drawing attention to themselves, but I’d argue that Couzens did a pretty crappy job at that, considering his coworkers referred to him as, The Rapist. Unless he was really hiding so much more that calling him, The Rapist, was only the tip of the iceberg. Horrifying. If he isn’t having the same treatment done to him in prison, that’s a crime in itself. I’m sorry but I think sex offenders should know how their crimes feel.
DECADES of research showing how dangerous porn use makes men, and yet in our society we normalised it to the point that a woman who do not want their partner to consume porn, she is considered a prude and a kink shaming killjoy. Couzen's porn use should've been a red flag barring him from even volunteering in policing, let alone from becoming an officer.
She urges the police chiefs to read the report and take it seriously. There are no teeth? It's up to them whether they want to follow her suggestions or not?! They're not going to do anything about this culture in the police.
I was thinking of this case the past two weeks. I didn’t expect it to be back in the news to be honest. The main reason I was thinking about this because I was watching true crime documentaries of criminal cases taken place in various countries and almost always if the case was about rape or sexual assault, the police force in those countries took it so leniently . I’m glad there are changes being taken right now and now there is action being taken in the UK to tackle these issues in our police force and are taking actions to protecting the women of our country. Most often predators end up in careers that’s easy for them to hide in plain sight. Careers in education, medicine, criminal justice etc.,.
As someone who works closely with the police I can attest to the fact that their information systems are not fit for purpose and significant information is regularly missed/hidden within the PNC and local systems.
Sorry to ask but wonder if you could help with an old question thats never been answered. Why do some police officers make phone calls AFTER using the PNC to identify owner and driver of a vehicle yet never state why they make that call?
No one likes pigs, and I know why they make phone calls, as well as you do. Running plates is good money. But it's a shit job. And this "review" is the biggest bs I've ever seen.
"It is time certain types of behaviour, from the unacceptable to the criminal, and low standards, are simply not tolerated in policing." So that's most of the police service then.
Do you hear how many things that were missed and overlooked by multiple people and organisations?????? This tells me for sure that there are many many more police officers out there that shouldn't be police officers. Without a doubt.
@Theresa89 unfortunately it's not exclusive to the police. NHS/care and schools all attract the same types of people. There are those that want to help and better society and those who will exploit and abuse that power.
Wayne Couzens unsuitability to be an officer was knowingly and systematically overlooked becasue he was a Freemason, and in my opinion it's negligent not to mention this.
TWENTY YEARS the police forces KNEW he was a PREDATOR. They still never fired him or arrested and charged hin. Every single force that dud bothing is responsible for sarahs murder
should never have been murdered but it still happened.. worst part is theres more vile people in the force willing to abuse their power and others who just look over someones disgusting acts, couzens was never fit to be a police officer
I wonder how many more are out there that are getting away with it ? Shocking to know that his colleagues knew what he was like - Disgusting. Hows people supposed to feel safe with the likes of this policing our streets ? ?
It is clear that the police department consciously or unconsciously prepared base of this crime the question is obvious WHY SARAH EVERARD HAS TO PAY FOR THIS? WHY THE FAMILY OF THE ALLEGED POLICE OFFICER HAS TO PAY THE PRICE? When none of them are not accomplish with the crime. UK deserves proper justice.
I agree in the sense every human life matters and a tragedy for every innocent person that dies we are all human …. But I do think your comment is off topic and went over your head
Someone willfully chose to ignore all of the official and unofficial as this culture of impunity and really horrific and offensive “ banter” hidden under the guise of de briefing dark humour, ? except what is the underlying wink nudge pub banter very sick attitude behind it? People deeply uncomfortable around that banter know what’s behind it and know it’s veiled threats. Open secret. It needed dodgy people to fall guy protect and maintain others like WC in the force. It’s horrendous that he is barely the tip of the iceberg. Barely. They have deeply prevented good people from joining,staying, especially altruists by nature.
What has changed since then to make it safer for women? Nothing. And the handling of demonstrations which followed show that the police has absolutely no idea. Can we get someone in charge to overhaul it?
@@TheNelster72Ue living in a Cuckoo land look at previous sentencing for murders the most they get 15- 20 years if that ! thats a shite sentence if ur a murder in ur 20s you'll be out in ur 30s and start new life pathetic
Much said about the failures of various forces and their procedures. But what of the reasons for those failures ? Is it malice or incompetence ? What of the policing of Clapham common ? Was that due to individuals, intermediate command levels, or the home secretary ? Don't just press serving officers to review the report. Consider their actions and report again.
"Wayne Couzens should never have been a police officer".... No, really? In cases like this I understand people who agree with the death penalty in other countries.
In Australia we have had a recent case where a member of the New South Wales Police fatally shot two men with his service pistol over a personal matter.
It's so sickening, what an evil piece of sh!t. Hopefully this will protect others in the future, but it's so sad this had to happen for changes to be made. My thoughts are with Sarah and her loved ones.
Significant overhauls cost money and since tens of thousands of police have already been laid off due to budget cuts, there isn't going to be the money to have a significant overhaul or even the money to do proper HR processes.
They all know who the sex offenders are. It is apparent, they do things like eagerly offer to view footage created by sex offenders they are trying to arrest.
@@lonelylantern9135 the people in the police who go through evidence (for example video footage from a sex offender), only the police officers investigating that case would go through that evidence. They don't just run around the police station shouting "who whats to see these movies"
@matthewbaynham6286 well sudhi kadamber of met police told me when there was footage from toilets that had to be reviewed all the perverts were eager to do it.
You only have to looks at Westminster and how many mps have been suspended for sex crimes. Westminster set the rules and should be more thorough when employing mps. No wonder the standards are so low in the met police when mps are getting away with unlawful acts.
Both Wayne Couzens and Levi Bellfield abused steroids for weightlifting. There's been a number of other similar homicides where steroid abuse is a component.
Imagination is more important than knowledge. For while knowledge defines all we currently know and understand, imagination points to all we might yet discover and create.
It want missed mate! It was welcomed into a corrupt, inept, under-educated institution. Does anyone in the MET have a criminology degree? This should be the baseline to becoming a person assigned to Public safety!
Our Police have gone from respectable to laughable. Get rid of the woke police chiefs and all this diversity nonsense. Get back to proper Policing and proper funding.
Oh ! There is vetting , they just don’t take notice of it .exactly how professional ,is our police force ? How many such people are in the ranks who have failed vetting ? Should we just trust them to sort it out , yes ?no ? When they think telling an abusive female officer to apologize to her victim is the right thing , then perhaps we should ask are they capable of even understanding when they are not fit to be police ?
A different case, but I used to work at Bradford magistrates Court. I remember a case where a police detective had murdered a woman, he was having an affair with. He was married and his mistress was pregnant. So he murdered her. This was early 90's. Haven't trusted the police since. This case was not well known. But it is very true.
Not sure how things operate there. But with all the talk of "need for change" she was very careful not to name anyone who allowed this behavior. In other words.. no real world repercussions. Being from the States, this is a pretty standard speech I hear all the time. It turns into a "big picture" discussion, instead of a.. here's the people responsible, and here are their consequences discussion.
Rip to this lady she did not deserve this treatment from a man whom suppose to protect woman and also men tbh we never trust anyone nowadays even if they in an officer suit police or not they are still capable of these heinous horrific acts and nobody is trusted and most don’t help matters when treating people badly in Cells and people lose there life then all the cover ups appear .get a grip and start doing you jobs and to background checks and also Liston to people if they have complaints against and officer don’t just brush it off or it will end up another innocent victim to somone whom thinks they have authority to do these terrible acts just because they wear a police suit
First the (woman) news anchor says, "Let's go to our correspondent Simon Harrison who...I mean, Sam Harrison --- who has the details of the report..." First, she gets his name wrong. Then, at around 2:45, she cuts him off because the press conference is about to start. Having been slapped in the face -- on air -- Sam is rocking back and forth on the heels of his "tasseled loafers" so favored by both Wall Street lawyers and the Media Elite --- as President George H.W. Bush so aptly phrased it in his speech at the '92 Republican convention, as you all remember, of course. Pardon, a little...errrrr..... But seriously: In terms of a BBC sham report, we can say that "Sam's been obviously shammed." Or as Sam the Sham sang in 1965, "Monkey See, Monkey Do." Quite so, as we note that -- for at least a moment there -- it looks like Sam H. is thinking: "If only I could kill the (anchor) woman, life would be so beautiful. So...very beautiful. Later, i could call the vet regarding my dog, and get a hot chocolate at the local convenience store down the road...." Yes, an ironic twist, indeed, in the reporting of the Sarah Everard story. As Homer Simpson would say: "Doh...!" end
I read that his colleagues called him "the rapist" and he remained an officer
That was before Sarah was murdered. Disgusting
Imgine this, cops at work- "what,s his name? , answer, "oh yea, thats "the rapist".
Now imagine criminals (who police deal with) having the same discussion.....
"thats THE what? (question)
"he raped who?" (question),
"wait...he,s a rapist?" (question)
"what the actual....?" (question)
"You got evidence of THAT? (question likely for a detailed chat to ensue)
Without doubt, the answers to those questions would be "not round my wife/daughter" followed by the knickname,s clumsy removal from the premises, "lessons learnt".
Sara,s family having to learn all filth from the current investigation as we the public have. Seeing David Carrick, Adam Provan and now Cliff Mitchell (recent weeks) since Couzens murdered their daughter?!? May God send them Peace.
Yeah because most of them are the same as him. They were all part of the WhatsApp group. It's still good old jobs for the boys. Name and shame
@@jessicabates1223 You do know rapists are criminals right? It's wild if you think hardened criminals would have cared about a rapist in their midst. Sure they wouldn't want those they care about falling victim to crime but that's always the case, they don't treat others like they'd treat themselves.
The job attracts people who should never be cops.
This! Military as well, especially here in the US. So many awful and vile people on the police force and in the military. They’re drawn to the positions. Power.
Some slipped through the net, most officers are decent people but this is not good enough, ALL of them need to be decent. Obviously, he was a loser and a perv who lied and cheated in order to get into a position of power that would allow him to commit crimes.
I must agree. These. Sort of people love the power over ordinary people
I know a lad at school 40 odds years ago. Who only became a prefect because he wanted the power.🏴
All around the world
@@LezMackrel You have justified hate. Yeah I'm sure you will be a fine police.........
Poor woman's last hours, handcuffed and driven by a monster, assaulted and murdered - absolutely horrendous.
It’s worth remembering he also desecrated her body once he killed her to hide his crime. He ruined her family’s chance to say a last farewell to her and grieve the loss properly.
Im sure there is many more where he came from.
Unfortunately they’ve been there , still there and going there .
And…..never been held accountable .😢
Exactly. Every person in that department that knew the red flags is directly guilty for the death of this poor woman.
What disciplinery action will be taken against the Kent Police Officers for not investigating his previous offences? I have friends who have left the Police because all their colleagues were Dirty.
Yes , bc if you don’t play dirty like them they will make your life miserable . It’s an institution of predatory behaviour and criminals .
With all due respect, that was evident the instant he was found guilty... He won't be the only officer who should never have been given a badge.
Their conduct may not be as severe but they are there, rotting the force from within...
One thing that struck me about Wayne Couzens was that indecent exposure seemed to be a hobby of his, and that it continued through the years when he was committing other kinds of sexual offence. Men usually laugh it off as trivial, even pathetic, but it's clear that for him it was not only a gateway offence (the start of a slippery slope?) but also a way in which he could have been easily caught almost at the last moment.
How many other victims are there of this disgusting pervert?
Men do no such thing.
@lorddavidlawrence This is TH-cam. If it was some other forum, I would be more precise and say that most men take it less seriously than most women do. Certainly the police used to have that attitude.
It’s a reinforcing behavior used by people with serious antisocial problems
@@TheNelster72,
Yes the Effing do !
I told a story about a man who exposed himself me . And men either laughed or made stupid jokes about it . I wished I never said anything .
Mind you that conversation was in context of watching an interrogation of a rapist .
They are plenty serving police officers that should never be in such a position of power 😢😢
What a shit show and now Sarah is dead. Those that say they would still have employed him, knowing his history, should be prosecuted.
Clearly no care for "life" in or out of the force.. lengthy court cases proving what they "knew" ?!?. Better to take their pension, their financial future and that of their dependants too. So what if they have paid in for years- the offending officer can pay a lawyer to fight for his pension (not many can afford that). Its a massive deterrent just thinking about it.
50 years ago women were protesting to be safe out on the streets. And they are still doing so to this day. This is why feminism is needed and this is why there is still such inequality between men and women.
Well the UK is rated one of the ten safest countries for women in the world. Not really sure what that says tbh.
Women keep voting to make the country unsafe. And they are getting what they vote for.
I worked in Human resources in the police and I can tell you first hand that there are thousands of officers on our streets that have major personal problems that impact their ability to carry out their job properly. In fact if it was made public many people demand they resign. I've seen so many stalking, sexual and domestic violence cases I've lost count.
Also, HR.
It's everywhere you go...
My life was almost ruined by a senior officer who took against me . He was and is unhinged mentally and is very senior. People think the police have their hands tied by political correctness but in fact they can and do get away with massive breach of protocol and good practice. Most people don’t know the half of it .
I was sexually harassed by a member of the metropolitan police force . I was panicked bc I didn’t know who to report it to .
He continued with phone calls knocking on my door . Even making threats to arrest me .
Eventually I went to a local solicitor’s and told them what was happening . She got in touch with the PCA .
I felt like I was being Interrogated by the first set of detectives who took my statement .
The solicitor kept pushing the issue bc the predator was still hounding me as no action was taken .
They then tap my phone and placed a camera outside my flat .
Two weeks later he was handcuffed right there in my home . They had all the evidence of his conversations and footage of him coming to my house uninvited .
I didn’t tell anyone except the solicitor .
People who knew me read about it after the case was heard .
They asked stupid questions like , how come you never told us , and , you should’ve done this and you could’ve done that .
What they don’t realise is, until you’re in that situation you can’t say what you would do .
One of my then friend brother told me , it takes two, to tango , WTF 😬!
It’s true , women don’t usually report these horrible events bc of fear , intimidation and , embarrassment .
I know if I had gone to my local police station where he was based they would not have taken the matter seriously .
Your so brave to see it through.good for you you may have saved another woman's life and your own for that matter.
What a horrendous experience for you! How courageous you were to find a way to press ahead with legal action. Wishing you all the very best going forward!
Horrendous 😢
You were tangoing that’s the point.. that man is low iq
There are plenty of dodgy men out there yet when we speak out about them, us females are just dismissed as "nutters" . Sadly it took this young womans murder to make police take my appeals for help seriously. The bloke is still out there, no punishment, no record, no fine but i am vocal about his behaviour and still called names by his mates.
I am so sorry for what you've been through. I went through something similar (army man) and sometimes wonder was it worth reporting him. In my heart I know I was right but I still get verbally abused by his friends.
Not entirely true.
Many women make false allegations and the men ( who are innocent) can have their name tarnished forever and the woman doesn’t receive any punishment for their lies
So it goes both ways though men are less believed than women. It’s just the way it is.
Not to take away that women do experience traumatic events from dangerous men, as sadly they do exist.
Heartbreaking for Sarah RIP lovely lady
@@EpicAelflaed I would suggest that not "many" women do this. However, one is too many. I could argue that "many" men grape - and many get off the charge.
@@rosiebottom3870 I kindly disagree. Many woman do make false accusations and they do not get punished for it. It’s a big problem not just in the UK but in Europe and particularly the USA and Canada. You see a lot of it when there is a separation and the couple have assets and children. Allegations are an easy way to alienate the father from the children whilst throwing him out the home.
Look up ‘Silver Bullet in Divorce’
It’s a real thing and happens more than you think.
Rich Copper on TH-cam explains it well
@@rosiebottom3870,
Fck his friends and , live your life . They’re the disgrace not , you 🤗 !
RIP Sarah, shameful that a man like him was able to fail upwards into a position of power
Academia, Civil Service, the past masters of failing upwards ditto BBC 😅
couzens is NOT a man it is a BEAST and he was actually Headhunted by the useless,hapless completely disgraceful corrupt MET.RIP SARAH you will never be forgotten and do not expect much from Angliolini sle is a practiced GOV Whitewasher and Coverup merchant and some of its colleagues actively colluded with him to cover up his sexual predatorious behaviour,Then we have serial rapist Carrick +50 attacks too another bent plod of many.
Are you having a stroke?
@@MeganMegandaughter,
😂😂😂😂❤
I mean, he didn't really have s position of power, other than being a police man, which was a job he applied for.
Just imagine being told as a law abiding citizen, you’ve breached lockdown rules, being cuffed and told you’ll be taken to the nearest police station. To then discover as a woman alone, you’re cuffed with no way of escape, in an unmarked car, with a terrifying man, driving past that stop, and all the way to Kent. What - two hours - of horror and sort of knowing your ending but secretly hoping he will somehow let you go?!!!!! Are we ok?!!!! I wish upon wish this feeling to be felt among predators so you can feel a morsel of what women feel everywhere every day
It took an enquiry to reach that conclusion?
It’s ridiculous ….. its it !
Insanity
Exactly. Embarrassing. 2 years research and she's said nothing we didnt already know. And to keep saying opportunities were 'missed', is an insult. They chose to ignore not miss
Police not taking someone committing indecent exposure as “serious enough” is beyond me!!!
Do they know nothing about sexual abusers and serial killers? It’s like the first thing these people do before they escalate.
Shameful isn't it. To not know that as an officer is ridiculous , and to think that a police officer doing it is normal. Wtf. Disgraceful
It took an inquiry to come to the same conclusion what most people already knew, what a waste of time and money, should of spent it on police training
It’s not a waste of time. Whilst Inquiries allow Governments to kick the can down the road until they are published, they are a powerful tool
Even though the Angolini was non-statutory, it does allow for individuals and institutions to give evidence without being compelled in the Public arena to give evidence
It’s not a drawn out affair like Public inquiries and can proceed a lot faster resulting in recommendations
@@fazmuz After Cozuens comes, David Carrick, Adam Provan and Cliff Mitchell. Way too many officers imho.
Rest in peace, Sarah. Justice will be made.
Unfortunately I doubt it
Are we meant to believe that this man went from 1 to 10 with nothing in between? And what of he colleagues that over the years have facilitated his actions?
Don’t forget the criminals now wear uniforms
Never trust them all of them are curropt many psychopaths work as police officers
I’m American and I remember when I first heard about this case, it ate away at me for weeks. She had just had a dinner gathering with friends and was walking home and in an instant, everything changed. And not only changed, but for her, it ended. It really hurt me to know that she was handcuffed. I mean he took away her ability to even attempt to defend herself. I can’t help but wonder about the car ride and when she realized she was in danger. Did he tell her? Did he lie to her at first to keep her calm? Did he taunt her for the sick pleasure of inflicting emotional pain? I know it really doesn’t matter or change anything, but these are the questions I have as a stranger, so I can’t even imagine the questions her family and friends ask themselves or all the things they wished they’d done differently, even though nothing they did even remotely caused this. Her boyfriend probably wishes he’d stayed on the call with her longer. Her friends probably wish they could’ve convinced her to have one more glass of wine. I read the victim impact statements and how the sister said it was a relief knowing soot wasn’t found in her lungs, so at least she knows Sarah wasn’t burned while still alive. I remember she wrote about how tragic it is that that’s even a thought she has to consider.
Wayne is not only sick and pathetic but he’s a complete idiot. He’s a cop and somehow managed to carry out the most conspicuous murder plot of all time. I read that he traveled over and over to study London and plan the crime, but everything he did left clues. That’s the only saving grace, so at least it was solved quickly. It was amazing watching him squirm while being interviewed. He claims he was concerned about harm coming to his family while he was telling his lies but he sure didn’t mind taking Sarah from hers. I noticed he mirrored the language of the officer. The officer questioning him said he thought Wayne had something to do with taking Sarah away from her loved ones and he later used that same verbiage when he lied about the gang threatening to take his family away from him. Sarah was such an incredible person too, based on everything I’ve read about her. They never take the horrible people of the world, it’s only ever the great ones. I hope her family can find peace, but I know it’s going to be very difficult for them for a long time. One of their members was stolen and extinguished in the worst way possible. And the piece of shit that did this to her bought an effing pastry the morning after. I hope his time in prison is torturous.
Edit: I know she said Couzens and officers like him manipulate their image at work to avoid drawing attention to themselves, but I’d argue that Couzens did a pretty crappy job at that, considering his coworkers referred to him as, The Rapist. Unless he was really hiding so much more that calling him, The Rapist, was only the tip of the iceberg. Horrifying. If he isn’t having the same treatment done to him in prison, that’s a crime in itself. I’m sorry but I think sex offenders should know how their crimes feel.
Disgusting. Due diligence should have ensured he was never a copper.
Because they protect their own I bet hundreds are just like this man
DECADES of research showing how dangerous porn use makes men, and yet in our society we normalised it to the point that a woman who do not want their partner to consume porn, she is considered a prude and a kink shaming killjoy.
Couzen's porn use should've been a red flag barring him from even volunteering in policing, let alone from becoming an officer.
She urges the police chiefs to read the report and take it seriously. There are no teeth? It's up to them whether they want to follow her suggestions or not?! They're not going to do anything about this culture in the police.
I was thinking of this case the past two weeks. I didn’t expect it to be back in the news to be honest.
The main reason I was thinking about this because I was watching true crime documentaries of criminal cases taken place in various countries and almost always if the case was about rape or sexual assault, the police force in those countries took it so leniently .
I’m glad there are changes being taken right now and now there is action being taken in the UK to tackle these issues in our police force and are taking actions to protecting the women of our country.
Most often predators end up in careers that’s easy for them to hide in plain sight. Careers in education, medicine, criminal justice etc.,.
As someone who works closely with the police I can attest to the fact that their information systems are not fit for purpose and significant information is regularly missed/hidden within the PNC and local systems.
Sorry to ask but wonder if you could help with an old question thats never been answered. Why do some police officers make phone calls AFTER using the PNC to identify owner and driver of a vehicle yet never state why they make that call?
No one likes pigs, and I know why they make phone calls, as well as you do. Running plates is good money.
But it's a shit job. And this "review" is the biggest bs I've ever seen.
No shit Sherlock. RIP
sweet Sarah 😢🩷
"It is time certain types of behaviour, from the unacceptable to the criminal, and low standards, are simply not tolerated in policing."
So that's most of the police service then.
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Do you hear how many things that were missed and overlooked by multiple people and organisations?????? This tells me for sure that there are many many more police officers out there that shouldn't be police officers. Without a doubt.
This is deliberate choice by HM Govt Home Office to recruit people like this into Police. This is how you recruit for an Authoritarian Police State.
You been reading the communist manifesto ?
Tinfoil hat alert!!
I'm just observing what Rishi and Starmer are both saying, doing, and posturing for. I'd say it's quite obvious, but seems some don't want to see it.
Can't really see how appointing perverts is helpful to developing an authoritarian state.
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How can anyone trust a copper
You really can’t , you know !
I’ve had a couple of bad experiences with them .
One was when I was 19 and the other I was in my late thirties .
@Theresa89 unfortunately it's not exclusive to the police. NHS/care and schools all attract the same types of people. There are those that want to help and better society and those who will exploit and abuse that power.
Because in many cases its not just the cop and the force, it extends to their families, friends associates and snitches.
Wayne Couzens unsuitability to be an officer was knowingly and systematically overlooked becasue he was a Freemason, and in my opinion it's negligent not to mention this.
TWENTY YEARS the police forces KNEW he was a PREDATOR. They still never fired him or arrested and charged hin. Every single force that dud bothing is responsible for sarahs murder
So many 'errors'. Both Wayne Couzens and David Carrick worked in the Parliamentary and Diplomatic Protection branch.
The question is why those colleagues knew he was dangerous to women but just left him keep his place in the police force.
"The man who killed Sarah Everard in London in 2021 should never have been a police officer," - Well duh! 🙄🙄😡😡😒😒
Can you imagine poor Sara,s parents hearing that.
should never have been murdered but it still happened.. worst part is theres more vile people in the force willing to abuse their power and others who just look over someones disgusting acts, couzens was never fit to be a police officer
I wonder how many more are out there that are getting away with it ? Shocking to know that his colleagues knew what he was like - Disgusting. Hows people supposed to feel safe with the likes of this policing our streets ? ?
if his first victim was a man they would've acted immediately.
It is clear that the police department consciously or unconsciously prepared base of this crime the question is obvious WHY SARAH EVERARD HAS TO PAY FOR THIS? WHY THE FAMILY OF THE ALLEGED POLICE OFFICER HAS TO PAY THE PRICE? When none of them are not accomplish with the crime. UK deserves proper justice.
So who's responsible for allowing this?
Exactly. Don't worry though, lessons will be learned and changes will be made. What a joke
Everyone who allowed this to happen should be arrested and jailed.
How many more like him are still out there?
“Usual suspects” gang really quiet with this case
We busy supporting isreal
I agree in the sense every human life matters and a tragedy for every innocent person that dies we are all human …. But I do think your comment is off topic and went over your head
where the perpetrator was born or the colour of his skin doesn’t seem to matter to them this time… interesting🤔.
@SiniBlu... what a stupid bloody comment to make... shows your own racism mate
Usual gender males you mean
Someone willfully chose to ignore all of the official and unofficial as this culture of impunity and really horrific and offensive “ banter” hidden under the guise of de briefing dark humour, ? except what is the underlying wink nudge pub banter very sick attitude behind it? People deeply uncomfortable around that banter know what’s behind it and know it’s veiled threats. Open secret. It needed dodgy people to fall guy protect and maintain others like WC in the force. It’s horrendous that he is barely the tip of the iceberg. Barely. They have deeply prevented good people from joining,staying, especially altruists by nature.
What has changed since then to make it safer for women? Nothing. And the handling of demonstrations which followed show that the police has absolutely no idea. Can we get someone in charge to overhaul it?
It’s too disturbing to listen too. Disgusting!
He should never have been a policeman, if only he had gone to a better school he could have been a respected Tory minister by now.
Fresh off the back of another vetting failure named Cliff Mitchell.
Prayers with Sara,s parents, boyfriend and those who knew her.
British justice system is a joke , in US he would've got life without parole not the pathetic so-called "life" in the UK and out in few years 😅
He got a whole life sentence. He's never leaving prison alive.
He has got a full life sentence and will never get out.
Where do you get these unfounded ideas from?
He’s literally got what you just described he would get in the US. Stop talking shite.
@@TheNelster72Ue living in a Cuckoo land look at previous sentencing for murders the most they get 15- 20 years if that ! thats a shite sentence if ur a murder in ur 20s you'll be out in ur 30s and start new life pathetic
Zero logic and zero common sense applied. If it’s not making money they don’t care. Simple as that
Much said about the failures of various forces and their procedures.
But what of the reasons for those failures ? Is it malice or incompetence ?
What of the policing of Clapham common ? Was that due to individuals, intermediate command levels, or the home secretary ?
Don't just press serving officers to review the report. Consider their actions and report again.
"Wayne Couzens should never have been a police officer".... No, really?
In cases like this I understand people who agree with the death penalty in other countries.
In Australia we have had a recent case where a member of the New South Wales Police fatally shot two men with his service pistol over a personal matter.
It's so sickening, what an evil piece of sh!t. Hopefully this will protect others in the future, but it's so sad this had to happen for changes to be made. My thoughts are with Sarah and her loved ones.
Background checks must happens for everyone in police station
That inquiry was rubbish it mentioned no names.
Copper or not he was still going to these things it just made it easier for him, he should never be released
This is so Heartbreaking peace be with her 🕊 🙏 💔
Someone should be sifting through the youtube pinac/auditor movies to single out all those other people who shouldn't be police officers.
Significant overhauls cost money and since tens of thousands of police have already been laid off due to budget cuts, there isn't going to be the money to have a significant overhaul or even the money to do proper HR processes.
They all know who the sex offenders are. It is apparent, they do things like eagerly offer to view footage created by sex offenders they are trying to arrest.
@@lonelylantern9135 the people in the police who go through evidence (for example video footage from a sex offender), only the police officers investigating that case would go through that evidence. They don't just run around the police station shouting "who whats to see these movies"
@matthewbaynham6286 well sudhi kadamber of met police told me when there was footage from toilets that had to be reviewed all the perverts were eager to do it.
@@matthewbaynham6286my stalker shared my pictures with all his mates
You only have to looks at Westminster and how many mps have been suspended for sex crimes. Westminster set the rules and should be more thorough when employing mps. No wonder the standards are so low in the met police when mps are getting away with unlawful acts.
So many women go missing, but this case was more important than all even before they found out an officer was involved.
The guy should never have been in the scouts. Never mind the police force. He was definitely was on the dark side.🤔🇬🇧
Both Wayne Couzens and Levi Bellfield abused steroids for weightlifting.
There's been a number of other similar homicides where steroid abuse is a component.
How much did this enquiry cost
Yes you can include women with mental health concerns on that list of never trusting police officers again.
No shit Sherlock. Rest in peace Sarah 🙏🏻.
criminal in uniform
What about Cliff Mitchell?
He will be whatching this from his jail cell
The man looks terrifying so glad hes never going to see the light of day again
I appreciate the frank and factual talking points rather than the usual whitewash.
Thank you.
So bad no good very bad bad
Imagination is more important than knowledge. For while knowledge defines all we currently know and understand, imagination points to all we might yet discover and create.
You know.all this would be bloody laughable if it wasn't so tragic.
It want missed mate! It was welcomed into a corrupt, inept, under-educated institution. Does anyone in the MET have a criminology degree? This should be the baseline to becoming a person assigned to
Public safety!
Its shocking many of us women will now call 999 for safety. if a policeman is alone and stops us.
It so painful man… 🥹
What about 2008.
OBEY.
Our Police have gone from respectable to laughable. Get rid of the woke police chiefs and all this diversity nonsense. Get back to proper Policing and proper funding.
True, anti-woke police officers have been found to have lower rates of police brutality and abuse... oh wait.
The British Police are now a total joke.
Oh ! There is vetting , they just don’t take notice of it .exactly how professional ,is our police force ? How many such people are in the ranks who have failed vetting ? Should we just trust them to sort it out , yes ?no ? When they think telling an abusive female officer to apologize to her victim is the right thing , then perhaps we should ask are they capable of even understanding when they are not fit to be police ?
Two tier policing in UK.
A different case, but I used to work at Bradford magistrates Court. I remember a case where a police detective had murdered a woman, he was having an affair with. He was married and his mistress was pregnant. So he murdered her. This was early 90's. Haven't trusted the police since. This case was not well known. But it is very true.
Not sure how things operate there. But with all the talk of "need for change" she was very careful not to name anyone who allowed this behavior.
In other words.. no real world repercussions. Being from the States, this is a pretty standard speech I hear all the time. It turns into a "big picture" discussion, instead of a.. here's the people responsible, and here are their consequences discussion.
It's shameful and such a sad thing for other police officers to live with.
Alot of people are saying the same about our politicians LOL
Rip to this lady she did not deserve this treatment from a man whom suppose to protect woman and also men tbh we never trust anyone nowadays even if they in an officer suit police or not they are still capable of these heinous horrific acts and nobody is trusted and most don’t help matters when treating people badly in Cells and people lose there life then all the cover ups appear .get a grip and start doing you jobs and to background checks and also Liston to people if they have complaints against and officer don’t just brush it off or it will end up another innocent victim to somone whom thinks they have authority to do these terrible acts just because they wear a police suit
Yorkshire Ripper revisited.
Nice Lady Elisha,won't make any differance.It's a far bigger problem.
How sad its taken so much time. 💔
It didn't make sense unless you had the power to eat colors.
Oh my God payed what.
First the (woman) news anchor says, "Let's go to our correspondent Simon Harrison who...I mean, Sam Harrison --- who has the details of the report..."
First, she gets his name wrong. Then, at around 2:45, she cuts him off because the press conference is about to start. Having been slapped in the face -- on air -- Sam is rocking back and forth on the heels of his "tasseled loafers" so favored by both Wall Street lawyers and the Media Elite --- as President George H.W. Bush so aptly phrased it in his speech at the '92 Republican convention, as you all remember, of course.
Pardon, a little...errrrr.....
But seriously: In terms of a BBC sham report, we can say that "Sam's been obviously shammed."
Or as Sam the Sham sang in 1965, "Monkey See, Monkey Do." Quite so, as we note that -- for at least a moment there -- it looks like Sam H. is thinking: "If only I could kill the (anchor) woman, life would be so beautiful. So...very beautiful. Later, i could call the vet regarding my dog, and get a hot chocolate at the local convenience store down the road...."
Yes, an ironic twist, indeed, in the reporting of the Sarah Everard story. As Homer Simpson would say: "Doh...!"
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