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Wheat Harvest: Detroit Diesel Edition
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2019
- It's day 4 of wheat harvest, so I swapped tractors again. Today the wagons are pulled by my Oliver 1950, also known as Herman, and the auger is powered by my Oliver 1900 A series. Both tractors have the Detroit Diesel 4-53 engine. The combine is my Massey Ferguson 8570.
Good to see these half century old machines still working their heart out. A testament to the longevity built into the older tractors.those Detroit’s sound like they could rattle your teeth right out of your mouth though.I heard noise was a big complaint with the Duetz tractors when first sold in the US. Could be wrong but I think the Detroit has the Duetz beat hands down.great looking collection.thanks
The fire trucks I drove in late 70's and early 80's had Detroits and man they were a hoot to drive. They would pump to the end of time.
Miami-Dade ran LaFrance Pioneers in the mid-1970s, and our volunteer department in Post Falls, ID had a ladder truck with a 6v-71T. I forgot the make of chassis. It was amazing!
@@gckshea We had 1 Ward la France and the rest of the fleet were Pirsch. All had 8v71's except 1 ladder truck and it had a Waukesha and it was a dud!
The department was refleeted with EONES and Cummins.
If the LORD ever made a diesel that sounded better than a Screaming Jimmy he obviously kept it for himself. Earplugs should be standard equipment.
There’s just something about Detroit diesels that just make me happy:) Love you’re tractor collection, it’s great to see them still earning their keep
Thanks Chris, Nice equipment and video.👍👌
Herman is just an awesome looking and sounding tractor.
That gravel road is real scenic. I would bet in the autumn it's even more beautiful. I grew up in thumb on a small farm and have been living in the desert SW for 40 years now. Miss the beauty of small farms in the mid west.
Love them Olivers! Keep rocking it old skool dude!
what an absolute beast of a tractor….no plastic ERG sensors or Ad Blue….love it…good ol Detroit Diesel Power!
We had an Oliver 1365 back in the day when I was a kid. Great to these at work. I really enjoyed the video.
Thanks for the ride along! Love the Oliver's. Once it's in your blood it stays. Sure sounds way different than the old 1655 I grew up on lol.
Very familiar sight. I did the same for most of my life only had a JD 4020 driving Farm King 13 x 85' Swing auger. I've always like the Cockshutt /Oliver 1900 & 1950 tractors. Love that GM 2 stroke. I especially like the floatations tires on Herman.
Even tho I know better I still expect piston rods shooting out of those old Detroits. Awesome vid.
Detroit Diesels, the only machine designed to turn diesel fuel into noise and smoke. That's quite a nice collection you have there. Big fan of classic iron and love seeing them still working.
Yeah love em classics
Thanks Chris! My kind of tractors, happy to see you have a channel that I can go and reminisce on. We used to do business with your store many years ago. Love the sound of the GM's!!
I remember driving that 12 row planter all the way to your place behind our 2-135. A tractor drive before they were cool.
Make that Detroit sing.
Thanks for sharing! That 1900 Roars! Always liked the Early "A-Model" Olivers. Very Unquie and don't see them often there was an Early 1800A model on Local Craigslist for $1200.
I can smell the fresh air driving down the road on the Oliver
That Oliver sounds awesome
Herman is a BEAST!!! Love it.Great video.New subscriber.
Thanks for sharing, those Detroit diesels are awesome tractors.
Detroits are pieces of crap.
Detroit diesels r awesome
@@gearreviewwithswampy5794 Really? How so? If you have any rational reason behind why you like them, it shouldn't be hard for you to prove, so have at it.
@@gearreviewwithswampy5794 So you don't have a rational reason why you like them, I take it? lol Imagine that...
That Old Detroit is music to my ears
It would put a smile on my face to get to run herman through his paces, that thing sounds so mean
Finally a channel that likes the right shade of green:) love the video!
Good ole Herman! I love these old Olivers
Awesome tractor. Sounds great. I like the tractor pull
Looks like some lovely countryside I bet your ears ring at the end of the day
Love these massey's great runners keep up the great work. Very nice wheat
great video love your old tractors
We run all Oliver's and Massey 850 combines(hope to upgrade to a ih rotary soon) love this stuff. New sub earned.
Love the Oliver's and Detroits great vid
Really like your videos. I would rather watch older equipment run. That’s what I use. Really like to see those older tractors.
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I have been looking for a nother oliver farm for a long time I am vary happy with this
Another thing you are the only one I’m subbed to and have notifications 😀
Awesome! Thank you.
I grew up running 3 White's and an Oliver 1655. It got used for everything around our dairy farm. A good all around tractor. The Hydro power/shift on the go, and tight turns made it really handy.
Erixx Haxx do you have a white 6144?
@@matthewdemaster2045 No, our Biggest was a 2-135. they were all the silver sticker series built in the 70's
Erixx Haxx ok
Never get tired of hearing those Detroit's sing!!
I saw Oliver green, and Detroit Diesel, and now I'm here.
Would love to drive Herman to work through my neighborhood at 5:30 in the morning!
I've had that thought myself
Sound of a Detroit is like no other!!! Best sound!!
Great video , Love the Detroit.
Thanks for sharing ,isure like looking at the old tractors thank you
The Oliver 1950 is really cool !
Looks like the Oliver could float on water. Love to see it restored
I plan on restoring it someday. There's a few missing pieces of wheatland sheet metal that I need to round up first.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris l personally think Herman looks good in his work clothes....a lot more character, than a trailer queen! ... Thanks for the great Video👍👍
I love that jimmy 2 stroke sound, they sound like they are turning 10,000 rpm. When I was in high school I would go with a friend who drove the flat nose GMC with those engines for Wilson Watson, brought back lots of good memories.
John Johnson..... but the trucks had Series 71 in most of them, some of the class 7's did have 6 & 8V53's. The only "trucks" to utilize the little 4-53's were some of P&D (Pickup & Delivery) type "vans".... ie: Hostess Cup Cake had hundreds of them around the country for delivering to local stores back in the mid 1960's through the mid to late 1980's... they also had them up in Canada as well. GMC/Chevy did offer the 4-53 as an option in their 5 ton trucks of the 1960's and 70's.
I don't know what model, just that sound when those semi's pulled out on hy 41 and took off. @@Romans--bo7br
I love them oliver's I drove the 1755 and the 1855 and they had the over and under was nice went chopping and baling that 20% over or under
Your a lucky man living your life this way.
Thank you, I agree.
That tractor sounds mean damn,, nice video sir
what a lovely sound
I really love these videos. The old equipment is so cool. But, I do think a gopro would be a very good investment.😂
Something with image stabilization would be nice. Might be time to start shopping.
Listen to that Detroit sing, music to my ears.
long live the GM 2 stroke diesel ,,i love them ,,i own 2 machines which were repowered with 2 stroke diesels and i have a huge collection of detroit engines ,, i began collecting Detroit 2 stroke diesels in 1996 shortly after GM stopped producing them
i have a couple rare ones too ,,only one engine is truly missing from my collection and that's the elusive 1-71 ,
,3-53 /453 ,453 turbo ,6V-53 ,both NA and turbo /aftercooled ,12V-53 with 4 turbos ,, only one of less than 50 built ,,
2-71 /4-71 turbo 6-71 NA and turbo 6v/8v and 12V71 ,have several marine engines , left and right rotating,,missing a 20V-71
have several 6V-92 and 8V92 truck engines and a 12V-92 stationary engine generator,,
the biggest of them all is a Gigantic 12V-149 which i use as a yard ornament it does run and has 4 huge turbos on it
and i love starting it just to annoy my neighbors
eventually i hope to open an engine museum because i love old engines i have many more engines other than detroits , including several airplane engines ,V12 truck engines including a GMC 702 V12 ,,also have a Deutz air cooled V12 from germany
Wow! Sounds like an impressive collection!
it has gotten to an impressive size yes i am as time and money permits restoring them to operating condition
also learning about them in the process , i watch a lot of detroit diesel repair videos as well to learn more
my favorite engine of them all is the little 12V-53T,,it sounds much different than a 12V71
for the first time this year i was able to have an engine display at my county fair ,,turned a lot of heads too ,,nobody in my area had any idea what i was doing ,,the highlight of it was seeing 6 different V12 engines all running at the same time ,,wish i had a video of it , i never even thought about it till it was over
the odd duck Deutz V12 air cooled ,, GMC 702 , 3 different Detroits 12V53 , 12V71 and 12V92 ,,and on the very end of my trailer mounted on a stand with a sign on both sides that reads , the worlds largest portable fan ,,a very much original WW2 vintage Allison V1710-1 Airplane engine complete with a 11ft propeller
i am a completely self taught mechanic that started repairing lawnmowers at the age of 10 clear back in 1984
I showed this to my Uncle, he kept complaining about the Massey combine among the Olivers.
Tell him it's really a White under that Massey paint
@@ThatOliverGuyChris I thought about that after he left.
Herman is a beast!!
Wow, cool machine that Oliver, sounds like its running real high rpms for a diesel
That's dd for ya. They be two stroke🤔😁
Theres nothing better than old iron working, new equipment will not stand the test of time.
Parabéns pelo seu vídeo ótimo mais um inscrito 🇧🇷
Awesome stuff man! Love Oliver machines. Where are you located? Surprised I haven't seen your videos before. I watch A LOT of farm vidyas haha.
You just can't beet the sound of a Detroit engine.
Dang forgot to put hearing protection on before I watched. Great running tractor though, but I already have a hearing loss from ih tractors and other equipment.
Casey's Breakfast Pizza and a Chris Losey Detroit video.. and on a Friday morning too! Can't beat that with a stick! Great video as always! Thanks for sharing!
I'm hoping to get to the 2 stick level soon! Thanks for watching!
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Haa! If I had sticks in both hands, how would I eat my Breakfast Pizza!?
Good point!
All I can say: Hell ya!
Thank you for not using glyphostate as a dry down agent. No sprayer tracks and a few green weeds shows you're doing food the right way. I wish the commercial grain belt farmers did it this way.
I have heard of the practice, but I don't know of any farmers in my area that do that.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Where the farmers don't own combines and they grow wheat under contract. They have to have the wheat ready for when the combine fleets move through. So the flour, cereal, etc type companies tell them when to spray so that the field will be dead/dry when the combines come through. It's usually about 10 days before scheduled harvest date. I don't mind roundup to kill before planting, but don't put it on our food. I use to live on a dairy farm and some would add meat scraps to the ground grain feed to raise protein. I felt that was crazy and used soy or cotton seed meal. Guess where Mad Cow comes from? Infected meat scraps. So killing seed with herbicide is messed up IMHO.
I miss farming, but I like the old ways mixed with new. Having a combine is important because you can harvest your own seed for planting and still use Hybrids too. Grain farming needs hybrids for yield. But when you have livestock, open pollinated is a great nutrient rich seed stock to have. Clover is a great 2 year hay crop and adds nitrogen to the soil, that seed can be a bit steep. But having 5 acres of seed stock like clover, oats, tall wheat will give seed for quick forage hay when you run short. I see guys planting Sudan Sorghum hybrids for hay but the stalks are to big and long for the livestock to feed good without chopping, and prussic acid issues. But with non-hybrid Sudan grass, it's not much of an issue and smaller stalks that are more easily eaten by livestock. With a combine you can grow your own seed. We seen years when money was real tight, but we had seed in the bins and our cattle never went hungry. We still planted hybrids, but we had backup. There's also a nice niche for open pollinated seed too.
Oliver for the win! I had a 1555
An original El Toro, lot of them you see now are just regular row crop with the floater tires put on.
Love those old Olivers, but no ear muffs on the second ride? Damn that has to be brutal on your hearing....I said HEARING!
What????
Now it makes more sense about the stories of Herman on here and on the facebook Oliver White page.
Just subbed and so far I am very pleased
Thank you!
Just spent the afternoon bush hogging on a 1947 “H”, it was Grandpa’ ( I am 61). Can I come work for you in the fall? Man that would be great!
We have a c70 grain truck with a Detroit in it and that is something else
I see you got that tractor warm up I saw it on c and when you got it to unload it was close to the middle and could you tell us more about the two like how much fuel it holds and anything else
those wheels are huge for that tractor imo
Love the sound. Had to turn my iPad down! Proud that the Oliver has a masculine name. There in NOTHING feminine about that heavy metal!
Doesn't Herman have a two speed or an over and under ? I have a 1750 gas with the over and under and love it
Herman has the 2 speed. They never offered the over under in the 1950 from the factory, but one can be swapped in.
Good video was the Oliver you were leading wheat off with was it a bit underpowered ?
It had all it wanted with a full load. Then speed was slower and it wasn't moving as much wheat.
Couldn't hear what you were saying because of the background noise of the Detroits! Love that sound, though. I drove a truck in the 1970's with a Detroit. Maybe that's why I can't hear very well anymore! Very dependable engine, though.
Whaaa???
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Exactly!
The first time you rolled down the road I was laughing out loud and my wife wondered what I was up to with headphones on while she watched tim Allen's new show. I guess he has our politics not leftist. I love herman. Period. If I could ever get a new set of rear terra tires, I would get a nitrogen welding tank and put the tires in a plastic bag and every time I moseyed by the bag I would check its inflation and pump it up if low. They would be brand new in 50 years if you had a boy child that loved herman.
My papa was a logger for all his life he told me when he first started loggin they had Detroit in the skidders then Cummins was put in he said Detroit wasn't that loud but Cummins sounded like a hell cat comin through the woods
Our John Deere 6620 I think we had to take the chopper completely off to do straw for baling.
Listen to that Detroit pur😎
That's a lot of weight to get moving ! you don't realize that quite so much in the cab of the White! Twice the power strokes at 2000 rpm, guess that's why they called them screaming Detroit's! Thanks for sharing Chris
Yep, gotta be at least 900 bushels in the second load. I wouldn't dream of trying it if the red wagon didn't have 4 wheel braking built in.
Chris Losey Most times starting and moving isn’t the problem, stoping is! (Over 15 ton plus the weight of the wagons.) Super video, THANKS
I was read the wrong note, it’s over 25 ton. Sr. moment
Beautiful clean crop not a weed one
Thanks!
A man deserves credit where credit is do how good did that crop do anyways
It's still in the bin, but I'm estimating around 64 bushels per acre
I love red... but i love tho oliver
Man take half his hp to pull them tires lol, but they do have a big foot print for soft ground I imagine
The best way to turn diesel into noise.
My son found an oliver 1900 front wheel assist a few years ago and the owner wanted 3000 for it. He said it had no oil pressure but it still ran. could have just had a bad gauge not sure. My son didnt buy it because the only way he had to haul it was on a 14,000 trailer behind a duramax. He thought it was too heavy for that. Yesterday he saw one sell on an online auction and the last I saw it was bringing 28,000. He kicks himself for not buying the one for 3000.
Yep, 3 grand was a good deal. He probably would have been ok, a FWA 1900 is around 12,000 pounds unless there are a bunch of added weights and fluid.
We hear you fine lol
I was just watching cool stuff on TH-cam when I came across Herman. I can tell you most of the history on the big boy. I sat between the fenders of him for many hours. Herman did come from Nebraska but not from a farmer, it came from JH Minor Ranch Company from the deep wet meadows of the Sandhills. The reason it came with those tires was we stacked hay on the wet meadows and moved hay off of them. By the way where is the Waldon dozer that used to be on it? Awesome videos! Thanks for letting me see an old friend!
PS. I have seen it stuck in the mud!
Cool! I was wondering if someone would ever see these videos that knew Herman in his original home. I'd love to hear any history on him you might know. A friend of mine was the second owner, he took off the Waldon blade and sold it, and also removed the hay grapple setup that was on the back. Thanks for watching and commenting!
If the 1950 is Herman, The 1900 is either Hulk, or Jimmy (2nd name based on the engine)
I could not handle the noise of a Detroit 2-Stroke all day long in the field. Would drive me batshit crazy. LOL. On those DD 2-Strokes, do you have to mix the oil in the fuel like you do on a 2-stroke engine for lawn equipment, or is their lubrication system like a 4-cycle engine?
It's like a four stroke. The oil isn't what makes it a two stroke it's the engine cycle.
Those smaller gas engines breathe through the lower end and they don't have valves, they have reeds to keep them from back breathing so mixed oil is all they need.
@@horseblinderson4747 -- Thanks for the explanation.
Ditto on what Michael Rhoads said. A small 2 stroke uses the crankcase pressure changes from the piston moving in and out to force the fuel mixture into the combustion chamber at the bottom of the power stroke. A Detroit Diesel uses a blower to create pressure in the intake to force clean air in and exhaust out at the bottom of the power stroke.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris -- Thanks, Chris.
boy i would hate to run that very longno hearing left have heard of guys changig to four valve heads turn up fuel getting two hundred horse they took it
Have you ever put tires on Herman? Or done anything to the engine?
I did have 1 rear tire go flat from spinning the bead, got that remounted on my own. I've done some pricing, and it would be around 10 grand to replace them. Only thing I have done to the engine is replaced a leaky valve cover gasket. I adjusted the valves and injector height while I was in there. Now I need to learn how to adjust the rack and set the max rpms.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Setting up that governor is kinda touchy but the rack is pretty easy. He sounds good anyway, might be good enough as is!
If you recall from the dyno video, I don't have enough no-load rpm to get an accurate dyno reading. It's good enough for now, it will probably be one of my winter projects. Or a summer project, because you know... summer are gonna get done , sum arent't!
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Yeah, I do remember that now that you mention it. Yeah, you need to get adjusted so we can listen to Herman sing his song on the dyno!
Chris Lose
do you have a oliver 1855? We have one on our channel
I don't have one. I'll have to check yours out.
Your tires are really weathered neated
Beated
Screaming Detroit
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Paved roads are hard on tires arent they
Yes they are. The green wagon needs tires because they are worn so far there's no tread left.
Screaming jimmy- AKA bring hearing protection!!!!
What city are you near? Michigan?
Did you own those tractors brand new or bought them secondhand?
The 1900 and 1950 were bought used, both from other collectors.
Someone please help me out, what do floatation tires exactly do?
The main thing is they reduce soil compaction by spreading the weight of the tractor over a larger area. They also provide more stability in hilly terrain.
Chris Losey ok, thanks
Here's a dumb question were those turbo charged? Thought I hear a whistling sound when you changed gears.
No turbo, but it does have a blower, that whistles some.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris I don't know much about Oliver's but still love em though
Nothing wrong with that!
They sound like a couple of good running lil ol screamin demons. Don't forget if there's no oil under them there's no oil in them ! Lol
Oliver is the second best green tractor ever made
I wanna know the story of Herman, and why he's Herman, because I love that name for something that big. It's like me naming a Mahindra 5500 Stumpy (which I did, due to a size misconception, the thing is about the size of a mobile home)
Herman was bought new by a farmer in the sand hills of Nebraska. He made hay in some of the low lands and wanted the flotation. In 1966 when he was new, the Munsters were popular on TV, and the neighbors told the farmer that his tractor was big like Herman Munster. The name stuck. A friend of mine bought Herman from the original owner, and then I bought him from my friend. The name has stayed with him all this time.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris neat, I love stories like that